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What games put you into a flow state? A game that engages you so much that you lose track of time?
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Reverse Collapse put me in the anxiety zone, but GFL2 put me in the boredom one.
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>merely functioning is "flow zone".
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>>719329427
Well, we are always meant to be in the flow zone. It’s the natural state of being.
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>>719327807
“flow” isn’t real, “immersion” is a buzzword
>>719330517
pseud brotard shit
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>>719330879
Flow is definitely real, and immersion is not a buzzword. Have you never been immersed in something?
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>>719331541
No it isn’t, it’s objectively fake, it’s pseudo-science bullshit.
> Have you never been immersed in something?
That’s called “paying attention”
retards think paying attention is magic because of marketing
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>>719331541
“Flow” got BTFO’d in 2021 and flowtards have never recovered
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>>719330517
this corpo chart is clearly meant to muddy the water.
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Viktor Frankl was a liar and a nazi collaborator, he was never a victim of the concentration camps, he was a documented informer for the SS and volunteered to help them commit brutal lobotomies and was involved in “camp management”

That’s the phenomenological basis for flow state: the fabricated hoaxes of a known nazi

but because psychology is a pseudoscience, nothing could be a bigger hit for their field than the untestable lies of a war criminal conartist
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>>719334160
this is something I expect a tranny to conjur up to disagree with a concept such as "flow"
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>>719334160
say nazi 5 more times im sure it'll help convince people of your argument
sounds like you're more assblasted one of (((your))) own betrayed you
>reddit spacing
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>>719334278
you have to admit it does cast some doubt on the whole concept that Frankl’s fake account was the basis for Csíkszentmihályi’s theory.
It’s like if you started some anthropological work with Carlos Castaneda’s fake shaman stories: everyone (except the gullible and foolish) would immediately know you’re full of shit and making things up, because the source material is made up bullshit.

The facts are: Flow can’t be defined, can’t be measured, has no consistent reported features across differing experiencers, and has no physiological basis. The fact that the scholarship behind it comes from an outright hoax is just the cherry on top.
Flow isn’t real.
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>he was a documented informer for the SS and volunteered to help them commit brutal lobotomies and was involved in “camp management”
yeah that didnt happen, but it was based if it did
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>>719334401
>reddit spacing
you have to go back
and sorry but “nazi” is the correct term for an honorary mem
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>>719334661
member of the SS who helped run concentration camps

>>719334629
It did happen. Viktor Frankl is a well-known collaborator. He was nearly lynched by a mob of holocaust survivors at an appearance in New York.
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>>719334592
>you have to admit it does cast some doubt
your meaningless babble doesn't cast any doubt on jack shit
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>people whose "hobby" is complaining about people ruining video games saying "flow" doesn't exist and is a marketing term by some jew.
Try getting an actually productive hobby.
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>>719334860
Oh I’m sorry I should have specified that you only have to admit that if you’re intellectually honest and not a piece of shit fascist sympathizer who likes nazi war crimes
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>>719334592
>The facts are: Flow can’t be defined, can’t be measured, has no consistent reported features across differing experiencers, and has no physiological basis. The fact that the scholarship behind it comes from an outright hoax is just the cherry on top.
>Flow isn’t real.

Absolute 110 midcurve take.

Define qualia
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>>719334946
lol do lefty trannies really think this is how arguments work? Just spout nonsense and call em a nazi and you win?
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>>719335006
i mean it’s pretty easy to do when they’re literal nazis
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if flow were real it would be simple to prove it instead of crying because of nazi jews
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the only game i ever put enough hours into to feel this was WoW in a higher-skill lvl 60 Rogue v Mage matchup in vanilla (on either side)

there are so many tools and abilities available, possibility of completely reseting the fight, cool downs, trinkets, engineering items, rocket helm/boots, etc. that its more involved than even a standard fighting game

its honestly amazing the depth possible and how well balanced the fight is with seemingly no skill ceiling that it ends up being "solved" only if one player is objectively worse than the other

additionally, i'd argue you cant really experience this properly in any video game without it being pvp-oriented, no bot you fight will give you the same level of depth and adaptability

its also crazy because wow has complete braindead matchups like mage v warrior which are the exact opposite
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>>719335383
oh my god oh no, reddit spacing!!
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>>719327807
>what games put you into a flow state
vermintide 2 cata twitch mode 200-300% (chaotic fun) or modded tournament balance (requires actual teamwork)
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>>719327807
Any rhythm games with a large song selection. Difficulty is actually really granular and with a large song selection you can always find stuff on the low end of your range that's a challenge to perfect as well as stuff on the high end that's a challenge to clear. Progression is natural and automatic just by playing too.
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>>719335383
>Rogue v Mage matchup in vanilla
yeah agree, i am usually rogue but mage is fun too
for me the real flow is in leveling, i treat it as a giant optimization problem while also trying to not follow the same old completely optimized boring route each time, throw in some random stv pvp, dungeon i dont really need but just wanna hear the music or atmosphere for again, etc.
sadly ive done it so many times now its quite stale, i think this is why classic+ is so appealing to a large majority of players these days
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>>719328626
You got bored of the feet?
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>>719332045
flowbros....
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>>719327807
Any platformer/metroidvania with good momentum. I'm pretty confident something like the Messenger did this the best as movement options are just pure joy.
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Notice how approximately zero serious developers use the term "flow state" and it's exclusively faggots trying to sell you something other than games. That's because these people are frauds who couldn't hack in creatively, so they're LARPing as teachers. Real developers see videogames for what they are. Toys.
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>>719327807
>Put on game
>Twelve hours dissappear
Dwarf Fortress. Skyrim to a lesser extent in the sense of "gonna finish this one thing and then I'm done."
>Game where you could chop my head off an my hands would just keep playing autonomously like I'm a chicken
Sifu
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>>719336078
who gives a shit nigger, if you're assblasted about the name you can just rephrase it as "what games completely pull you in during gameplay?"
no ones asking you to buy anything, just talk about video games
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>>719327807
>games cause anxiety
The LEADS are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? YOU'RE weak.
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>>719336178
>please ignore my globohomo newspeak
You can fuck right off or continue to get shit on.
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>>719336559
>completely mindbroken by the kikes he thinks some random thread on /v/ that'll maybe hit 100 posts is a CIA-tier psyop
maybe we deserve to lose
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>>719336729
He's a namefag, so he's just as gay as saucy.
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>>719336729
Sure. Just keep parroting their lingo. You're not a loser at all.
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>>719336078
>tripfagging in the big 2025
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>>719332045
This review immediately confirmed my assumptions but I gotta give it to you very novel way of fishing for >You's
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>>719327807
Picross
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>>719327807
any grindan game after about the first 6 or 7 hours of straight grindan
you gotta get through the suffering first then it kicks in
>>719332045
its just the first jhana, action becomes effortless and instead of difficulty increasing it decreases. you can stick in this state for hours and hours of additional grinding if one is using video games to create it.

The method i described is really inefficient, taking hours to get there. this is why one should traditionally plan on grinding for like 14-20 hours straight, since after the first 8 hours everything is free gains.

zoomers cant sit still long enough to reach this enlightened level of being



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