>>719341258
She only appears if you do things in the roundabout way to avoid killing the tiefling bard.

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>so no one can jerk off to her
not with that attitude

>>719341351
I know I just think it's gay and annoying they added a chick who had her pants stolen and then made her a disgusting furry

>>719341745
She's not a furry retard she's a scaly, and she dies literally immediately afterwards who cares?

>>719341948
same thing you fucking queer

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scalie,
retard,
the word you are looking for is SCALIE

>>719341258
you lost
SA lost
/vip/ lost
scalies won
lizard board
lizard website
lizard world

>>719341258
It's more annoying that neither her nor Alfira are actual party members. Too many Elves and too many Druids.

>>719342032
I NEED THAT
I WANT THAT
I DESERVE THAT

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>>719342210
same

>>719342032
>>719342128
you are a queer
>>719342151
furies are gay and karlach is a tiefling

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>>719342151
This. Gay Mafia forcing a second druid instead of the big titty bard everyone wanted.

>>719342245
BEHEAD ALL PUBLISHERS
JUSTICE FOR SANZO

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>>719342275
>furries
This game doesn't have Tabaxi and Karlach is a Barbarian not a Bard and Alfira would only be the 2nd Tiefling. Halsin, Minthara, Shart, Astarion and Jaheira are all elves/half-elves.

>>719342837
furries are gay, tranny

>>719342032
I guess I'm a scalie now

>>719343484
You genuinely seem obsessed with furries and being gay. That is the only thing you have said this entire thread, furries and gay.

>>719341258
The absence of a bard companion is still mind-boggling. Or a companion from one of the short races. Fucking everyone being an elf is not fun, and Larian having the fucking audacity criticizing the average player character creation as being uninspired
>>719342275
>he doesn't want to bang exotic women
Sounds like you're the queer in here

>>719343696
I just don't get how they didn't take a look at the final companion roster before release and notice the obvious imbalances. I know I can respec them to whatever now, but the story does little to reflect that.

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>2 years later
>Tencent marketing still trying to make fetch happen

>>719343696
>>719343865
Halsin getting in due to heavy early access support for him ended up replacing the short character they had planned. Also, I guess DURGE being player character only also fucks it.

did they add a way to avoid killing the bard as dark urge?

>>719343696
>The absence of a bard companion is still mind-boggling
Blame Halsin and the EA retards. The bard companion got scraped.

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>>719344013
>no Durge companion
I'M STILL FUCKING MAD

>>719343660
because they are
>>719343696
>>he doesn't want to bang exotic women
>animal
>woman
you are retarded and gay

>>719344119
He seems like he would have been too complex to have, and he also might have drawn even more complaints about a party member seeming more important than the player.

>>719343696
I have no idea why they didn't include a bard, but they didn't add short companions because they didn't want people uploading midget porn because it looks like illegal porn

>>719344361
the height of consent is real

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>>719343623
welcome

>>719344013
>>719344119
>>719344341
Durge was always the intended PC. they only added Tav because EA fags seethed about having to do evil things

>>719344053
there are a couple ways around killing Alfira, either via knocking her out or by killing durge, I think you can only keep quil alive by killing durge

>>719344415
whatever weird way they made the sex mod the creator has to white list other mods to work with it. So one of the weird things is one guy made a petplay mod. the pet play mod works if you have shadow heart use disguise self, but doesn't work if you hire a gnome or halfling hirling, so the animations are in the game and mostly work, but they intentionally have a message that comes up to stop you

>>719343953
gms!

>>719342151
Alfira was killed for appearing too feminine

>>719344480
No? There was nothing of DU in EA, it was purely vanilla Tav. People complained that every companion was a shithead in EA, because they were. You didn't have a single even somewhat sympathetic or nice companion. The issue was the lack of variety. They said more were coming, added Karlach and scrapped the halfling werewolf bard. So instead of adding content, they neutered existing content.

>>719341258
IMAGINE how many goblins blew loads into her stolen pants while enjoying her stolen draconic pussystink

>Quil Grootslang is a silver dragonborn singer and composer in Baldur's Gate 3. She is a temporary Camp Follower, found at the party's campsite if playing as The Dark Urge The Dark Urge.

Did they add this in a update? I don't remember it when I played.

>>719344119
he suffers from main character status. so much of the story would hinge on his involvement and your character would just feel like an NPC. it sucks because he could’ve made for a great romance option, where you can lean him towards evil or good.

>>719346306
It's easy to miss her, she only shows up if the tiefling hard dies before she can be murdered in camp. The lizard bard is a replacement so durge can murder her instead

>>719346429
Exactly. If you play a regular Tav you're already not as important to the story as the origin characters, and durge is even more high impact than the rest. It'd be a cool change of pace in a BG game if someone else was the bhaalspawn and you had to deal with it but it would be a lot of work to add to the standard of BG3

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>>719342639
Makes me sick too anon. There is no justice.

>>719346658
I just want to fuck a monsterboy who would’ve fucked my neck stump if his sister didn’t give him brain damage, IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

>>719346082
in the EA your player character literally chokes the shit out of daisy. there was no Tav in the EA, only durge. Durge was always intended to the main character like how the PC of 1 and 2 was a bhaal spawn

>>719344920
yes, everyone is actually delusional and thinks fiction is real with real consequences

remember how everyone was telling us how games were poisoning our minds? how we wouldn't be able to tell reality from a game?

LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW, FUCKING CLOWN WORLD

>nooo you don't understand, I NEED TO WASTE TIME AND MONEY ON DRAWINGS/FICTION, instead of anything valuable like helping actual victims

>>719346130
what's weird is she says she wasn't hurt, so somehow they stole her pants but didn't rape her
>>719346306
I'm pretty sure she's been in the game since launch, but she's one of the emergency backup characters that mainly only exist in act 1 so if you go out of your way to try to fuck up the Alfira scene she shows up instead

>>719346429
>>719347014
faggot
>>719346429
>>719346658
because durge was always intended to be the player character and tav was only added after the early access

>>719347575
Larian is a bunch of dumb fucks, they always create a handful of characters that are "complex"(an asshole with terrible opinions)
BG3 had 0 companions that were likeable, Karlach doesn't feel like a bloodwar veteran, Shart is a mindfucked selunite because Sharr is tilted that people like fucking and sucking, Gale is supposed to be a giga wizard but he's just a loser who's been depowered, lost all his money and still acts like he knows everything(despite not actually knowing anything or saying anything about magic in general)astarion is a gay vampire, Lae'zel is interesting in the fact she's a propagandized evil-stupid who you can turn into neutral stupid, Halsins a gay bear and has no story, never should have been a companion, Wyll is black and sold his soul(even if it was to protect people, he got played), Jaheira is low level again despite that in canon they've literally killed dragons and shit, minsc is the same

and then they make it so you can do custom characters, which is what anyone really wants to do, because playing pre-established larian characters is actually lame as fuck in BG3

At least in DoS2 I liked 2 characters, I really don't like any of the characters in BG3

>>719341258
That’s a scaly you pleb

>>719343696
>The absence of a bard companion is still mind-boggling.
The existence of the bard archetype/class is mind-boggling.
It's been flanderized, in a very bad way, again & again. And yet it refuses to die.

>>719347461
>what's weird is she says she wasn't hurt, so somehow they stole her pants but didn't rape her
Using THE INNATE SKILL AND KNOWLEDGE OF HER LIZARDY PEOPLE as he was being pinned to the ground for the goblin rape train she undid he belt and slipped out of her pants and ran, just like a lizard leaving its tail
I've never actually gotten her so I haven't the slightest idea. I don't think she spawns if you killed the tiefling bard but ALSO killed all the OTHER tieflings and druids. I have yet to figure out if there's a perfect durge way of doing act 1 where the goblins/druids/tieflings all wipe themselves out

>>719348721
if you watch the vid in op she says goblins stole her pants. you can get her by killing or knocking out Alfira and the Alfira trigger is crossing the river, which you need to do to get to karlach or the blighted village. her scene is actually the top priority so if you cross the river and then meet karlach they will do the alfira/quil scene and push the mizora scene back to the night after

>>719347327
It's hard to account for any Daisy content since they completely scrapped it all.

>>719341351
No, she also appears if you never talk to Alfira before resting.

>>719343865
>I just don't get how they didn't take a look at the final companion roster before release and notice the obvious imbalances.

Anon, check the popularity of various races. Every single short one is at the tail end.

why are dragonborn a core race again? they're not really based on any common tropes in fantasy

>>719349498
I'm pretty sure there is other shit too. A more evil durge was the original main character and then they made toned down durge and tav due to EA fag feedback, but the pc was always supposed to be durge. that's why tav doesn't have any real connection to the story

>>719349771
>Lizardmen are uncommon in fantasy.

Found the zoomer.

>>719349771
because the Larian owner is unironically a furfag and jerks off to dragonborn

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>>719341258
HOW is there not even a single fucking dragon you can fuck as a player?
This was the game where it would make sense for the player to go full Huma or Elminster, or any other dragon fuckers in the history of D&D.
Fuck!

>>719349956
it's a real shame desu, quite literally anything that could possibly be dragon romance is immediately anthromoprhized

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>>719349956
> anything but the bottom

>>719349956
>>719350014
faggot

>>719349771
>dragons aren't a core part of the fantasy experience
They're in the fucking name, secondary: Dungeons and DRAGONS.
>but they're not dragons, th-
WRONG, IDIOT. They exist so DMs can let munchkins play a "dragon" without dropkicking all semblance of balance in the game.
>>719349821
Lizards are a completely separate race.

>>719350014
Did we even ever get the anthromoprhized version anywhere?
You couldn't even romance the silver dragon chick in pathfinder wrath since she died right at the start and you never get to resurrect her despite having her scale for whatever reason.
Fucking hell man.

>>719350165
>Lizards are a completely separate race.

Dragonborn are closer to lizardmen than actual dragons in terms of ancestry. They're essentially overgrown kobolds.

>>719341258
OP is a retarded faggot and this thread is pointless, but I'll take this opportunity to say that it's a shame they didn't add Tabaxi to this game. A cat lady companion would have given me a companion to give a shit about.

>>719350208
>You couldn't even romance the silver dragon chick in pathfinder wrath since she died right at the start and you never get to resurrect her despite having her scale for whatever reason.

If you play as True Aeon you can go back in time and prevent her death. Also there's a giant mod that adds her as a romance option.

>>719350090
Big ass chicken.
Big ass chicken.
Big ass chicken.

>>719350895
Big chicken ass

>>719349861
i'm not just talking about their place in BG3, but all of DnD
>>719349821
>zoomer
anything thats not part of the original LoTR races isn't part of the "generic fantasy" set up of races that most fantasies draw from
Dungeons and Dragons started from that and their only other mainstays have been Gnome for some reason, but they do end up filling that common trope in most fantasy as a little tinkerer guy
and Tiefling who are just people who want to play someone with horns, not super common in fantasy but they happen
I'm not sure why DnD, the arbiter of generic fantasy has decided that scalies belong with such mainstays to be a core race and not a supplemental one. Its not like other beast men are in core either

>>719349861
hes clearly not a furfag given how I don't think there's been a single furry race in any larian game. swen definitely is a scalie though, he likes playing lizardmen elementalist wizards

>>719350804
you are a gay retard furry who likes to eat shit

>>719351253
>>719341979
>>719342275
Christ what a seething retard.

>>719351309
you are the retard, you fucking gay scat loving fur faggot

>>719351174
same thing

>>719351253
>>719342275
>>719351345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BGoMkJv7U

>>719344119
I wish all the Origins had the customization options Durge had. I'd love to take Wyll's place and have Mizora as a Patron for my OC infernal Warlock.

>>719351345
keep screeching bitch boy.

>>719351431
>you don't like spiders, that means you are a spider
>>719351631
have fun dying of aids, tranny

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>>719350014
It does suck.

>>719349956
1 or 4. It's all or nothing. Preferably at first she polymorphs for love making but one night the guy gets adventurous and ends up addicted to pleasuring a 7 ton killing machine.

>>719350804
Based Todd wanting pretty kitty with him in all RPGs

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it sucks man

>>719351480
cool that you just stopped reading there
but regardless of that, i honestly don't care for gnomes either
hey always push an otherwise medieval-renaissance setting straight into steampunk
and you sorta have to do that in order for other races not to fill their niche
dwarves already live underground and are typically pro technology too but maybe more hardy. i mean snow white dwarves look like generic gnomes. they're just more interchangeable than they need to be
sometimes gnomes are also really good as magic, even going as far as calling them magical halflings, like how elves are magical humans. well we already have elves to be the go to magical race too in core.
they also clash with halfings as the short race
and in settings where humans stand out from dwarves and elves as not being as hardy or magical, humans are good at pushing technology forward. so why need to gnomes?

so for gnomes to not feel superfluous you need to pollute an otherwise low tech setting with magictech robots

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>>719352132
>719351480
What a smug fuck.

>>719352187
>Have a dozen flavors of elf
>That's fine
>Have a Short Elf
>that SuPerFluOuz

>>719352547
She knows exactly why they are here
and why she is here too

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Astarion is hot and I wish he'd hypnotize me.

>>719352567
they're less of the short elf
rather the magical hobbit who also lives underground and likes to make guns and robots
also most of the time core elves are just high and wood. the other flavors are always in added in supplemental content. the Distinction between Wood and High has been a thing since LoTR so it makes sense to always have them as options. Making Eladrin is a little much though
However, Gnomes have some weird star power that WotC likes to keep around despite their low popularity

>so no one can jerk off to her
this is bait

>>719352983
The Jew fears the Gyrocopter

OP is bitching cause his ENF fetish was almost there but instead of a cute girl it was a lizard lol

>>719350165
>WRONG, IDIOT. They exist so DMs can let munchkins play a "dragon" without dropkicking all semblance of balance in the game.
i suppose that makes sense but its still odd since they don't lean on them being a distinct part of their setting and instead go for keeping things kitchen sink but still choose to have dragonborn as part of core

DnD should lean more on their unique quirks
mixed races lineages are one of those since its not that common in other fantasy. they are now trying to hand wave away now despite being a great source for world building. not just for the idea of having these mutts walk around in major cities, but also the idea of having a half elf civilization that has existed for centuries who might not even realize that full blooded elves are a thing, except maybe that one old dude who was there from the start
guess they still have tieflings

the gith being a main race in BG3 is a great call considering mindflayers are one of those things important to dnd's identity and the gith just help establish their importance rather than just being a big bad monster

>>719352648
>>719353092
faggot
>>719351480
>>719352187
>>719352567
>>719352983
gnomes are a thing because they were in the same folklore tolkein borrowed from and hobbits aren't ambitious enough to make stuff

>>719344446
game?

>>719354026
>the gith being a main race in BG3 is a great call considering mindflayers are one of those things important to dnd's identity and the gith just help establish their importance rather than just being a big bad monster
Exactly.
If the game was high level D&D 3.5e, they I would for sure have played a Githyanki with a Red Dragon mount.

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>>719354152
original sin

>>719354095
that just helps them feel more part of generic fantasy than the dragonborn

>>719341258
op was raped by furgods
shades of kevin nash coming from him

>>719342151
I mean. There are too many tieflings as well but I do agree. Having a bard rather than a second druid would have been nice for party balance. She seemed potentially really cute and feminine. A shame.

>>719354257
too bad the armor on them was kinda lame. swen will always be based for letting you hire a lizard prostitute though

>>719354363
>Almost had a monk
>Female Dwarf Werewolf

Well, I guess that's a bullet dodged.

>>719354319
you were raped and gaped by your uncle in the summer of '92 and that's why you like furries

>>719342151
>>719354363
Alfira is ugly, there i said it. Her face uses default player options, so its generic as well. She also has that Mabel Pines quirk chungus energy that was really grating, its not the right kind of feminine.

>>719354363
Karlach is the only Tiefling companion, the rest are just refugees from the Eltruel tabletop campaign.

>>719354905
>>Almost had a monk
>>Female Dwarf Werewolf
the dorf werewolf was a bard

>>719354985
That's homos. Furries just have Toxoplasmosis

>>719355152
all furries are homos

>>719354905
>>719355148
Wasn't it going to be a halfling werewolf?

>>719355148
Was it? I guess I forgot. Man how many Bard characters did Larian make just to not put any in the party?

>>719355208
No I'm isn't

>>719355214
the cut companion was a halfling bard. idk where he got dorf or monk from
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Helia

>>719355215
>Man how many Bard characters did Larian make just to not put any in the party
1

>>719355304
>She had 770 voice lines.
Holy fuck!

>>719343696
>The absence of a bard companion is still mind-boggling
While I agree, it wasn't a massive issue for me because I liked D&D Bards. Shame how 5E made them even gayer on some aspects tho

>>719342032
>I-I'm no a furry I'm a special furry
It's the same shit you stupid nigger, you're like fucking pakis insisting that they're any different from jeets.

>>719355352
I'm pretty sure a lot of the changes and cut stuff was due to hasbro

>>719355352
I mean a lot of those were back in the alpha of the game when the narrator was your character/origin, that ballooned character line sizes a lot

>>719354985
>raped and gaped by your uncle in the summer of '92
uh i'm thinking that's you bitch

>>719355474
lizards dont have fur though, so a person who likes them is not a furry. this is just basic english. are you sure you're not the jeet?

>>719355669
it was clearly you, that's why you are a furry

>>719355701
nah that's you

I still find it funny how Karlach seemed like such a nothing character she isn't even on the cover.

>>719355743
it because they only finalized her character after the EA
>>719355738
nope, if it was, I'd be a furry, but I'm not, you are the furry, because you were raped

I was never raped and I don't have any diseases but I would still consider myself a furry. Something isn't adding up here...

>>719355352
>>719355514
>>719355605
>Spend the majority of early access polishing Act 1
>Add in the Asshole companions first because if you just released the good ones few people test the bad ones.
>Get a ton of negative feedback because the audiences is forced to engage with asshole characters
>Spend time reworking the characters to be toned down (Wyll loses all his character, Shart gets rushed into trusting you, Halsin's deeper ties to Act 2 are cut)
>Cur the remaining good aligned characters planned because of time constraints alongside half of Act 3

All they had to do was accept that the average joe wasn't going to use the "evil" companions that often and we could of gotten a much more interesting game.

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>>719355917
bazed

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>>719355835
we already established that you were raped
>>719355917
i'm afraid the anti furfags were the raped ones

>>719355917
>>719356142
fake news. you were 100% raped and you have aids
>>719356174
your uncle raped you with a dozen other dudes and that's why you are a furfag

>>719356123
I don't think we were ever going to get a more interesting game because hasbro owns the license and the characterization in the film that came out around the same time is really similar to the bg3 characters and tone

>>719356123
The Wyll change is the biggest letdown, EA Wyll being a gloryhound fake hero who hates goblins is way more interesting than what we got.

>>719356321
blacks aren't allowed to be anything other than lawful good

>>719356214
nope, that's you

>>719347461
The goblins aren't furries. Even cave dwelling gangrapists have standards.

>>719358248
top kek

>>719349956

All of the above. The best part about a Polymorphing Partner is they can literaelly be whatever you want.

>>719359052
Fair answer.

>>719344480
>>719347327
>>719349795
EA only had Tav with a couple darker scenes
the prior games' bhaalspawn weren't actual pieces of bhaal's dead flesh given life
this is headcanon

I hated every single companion. Honestly don't know how they managed making the party members feel like a chore to acknowledge.
Too many supporting characters written to be donutsteel main characters.

I'm playing NVWN2 for the first time tight now and its night and day how much better side characters feel.

>>719359319
the game literally has you choke daisy. EA tav was durge and was a bhaal spawn. they only added tav after the EA because homos were seething about having to do evil things. just like they got rid of all the negative consequences for eating the bugs and made shart and wyll lame and made gayle a gay rapist instead of just being a normal rapist

>>719359738
>the game literally has you choke daisy.
by this logic current tav is also dark urge because you can stab your guardian
>they only added tav after the EA because homos were seething about having to do evil things.
do you have any evidence or interviews for your assertion that EA Tav is really the hidden secret DU or more unsubstantiated headcanon?

>>719359580
yeah, because BG3 was developed by hasbro where as NVWN2 came out in 2004 and there's zero chance hasbro gave a shit about what happened in the game at the time. Swen is still seething about hasbro
>>719359826
>by this logic current tav is also dark urge because you can stab your guardian
the game forced you to choke daisy, it wasn't a choice. Durge was always intended to be the player character, Tav was added at the last minute
>do you have any evidence or interviews for your assertion that EA Tav is really the hidden secret DU or more unsubstantiated headcanon?
why the fuck would a nondurge tav have multiple schizo fits?

>>719359958
>the game forced you to choke daisy, it wasn't a choice. Durge was always intended to be the player character, Tav was added at the last minute
do you have any evidence?
>why the fuck would a nondurge tav have multiple schizo fits?
what relevance does this have to what you're replying to? do you have any actual evidence or not?

>>719360030
>do you have any evidence?
literally the fact you choke out daisy you gay retard
>what relevance does this have to what you're replying to? do you have any actual evidence or not?
if you didn't eat breakfast today, how would you feel?

>>719359580
I love NWN2. As slow and boring as the OC can be sometimes, it really has its moments.
And I'm a D&D 3.5e aficionado1.
It's equal parts satire, deconstruction, and sincere played straight things that happen in a long TTRPG campaign and the associated fantasy stories like those D&D novels and such.
Buckle the fuck up for Mask of the Betrayer if you didn't get there yet.
It's pretty funny that I've loved the game since 2010 or so and in 2022 I finally got to start playing D&D 3.5e, and shit's getting as wild as the video game.

>>719360207
>literally the fact you choke out daisy you gay retard
you're basing your entire argument off a scene
the dark urge is as much of a change to you as one scene?
>if you didn't eat breakfast today, how would you feel?
if you had any tangible proof for your assertions, how would you feel?

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>>719351253
Keep crying, OP.

>>719342128
Shut up ligger. Your women are made for human men.

>>719359738
Of all of the changes they made from EA, I can say Gale not flirting with Shadowheart is an improvement.

>>719360313
I'm basing my argument on what was presented in the game. you are the gayest retard, even gayer and more retarded than the furries in this thread

>>719362376
keep eating shit, tranny

>>719341258
Wait what the fuck, they added a new party member?

>>719362376
/v/ culture

>>719351253
underage sharty tourist

>>719349630
that's not true

>>719364113
there was no connection to the plot, you were not a piece of bhaal's dead flesh, none of durge's current interactions were in EA
if you have no word from what the devs intended, you are making up headcanon

>>719364718
normal people don't like homos, like you

>>719365197
>there was no connection to the plot,
are you fucking retarded? Durge has a massive connection to the main plot

>>719365657
correct
durge does, EA tav did not

>>719365671
EA tav was durge. they split tav and durge after the EA because homos like you got upset about playing as durge

>>719355034
If she were destined to become the bard companion (replacing one of the druids), Alfira would have gotten a unique face and body model

>>719365732
>EA tav was durge.
still no written evidence btw

>>719341979
Technical precision in all things. It's like calling a hagfucker a grannyfucker, or a nip a chink.

>>719355034
literally all of that applied to karlach in early access by the way. she wasn't even a companion in early builds.

>>719366325
>she wasn't even a companion in early builds
Should've remained not a companion
Unironically leddit wholesome chungus the character

>>719365853
>no tav randomly has a violent spergout like durge does because reasons, but he totally isn't durge, he just acts like durge

>>719367343
>he has no connection to the plot and shares none of the interactions that release durge has exclusive to it and the devs have said nothing about adding tav after feedback but ea tav is secretly durge trust me

its more likely that there wasn't "durge" in EA, tav was just a bhaalspawn like in BG1 and 2
later in development after daisy was dropped they came up with the super special bhaalspawn MC idea and created durge, with all new plot points and ideas to support that

>>719367921
this is ultimately what i think since i do know there were more violent interactions cut from EA, and ultimately would have preferred a bhaalspawn protag without some of current durge's plot points

>>719366102
Nono, one's a subset of a superset, like how gook, chink, et al are all necessarily slopes.