Retro gaming is much cheaper and you have endless possibilities through emulation. Retro collecting is expensive, but considering new consoles cost 500+ dollars and games are now 80+ dollars, it's not that much more expensive anymore...So what does this mean for the modern video game industry?Will companies start forcing players to play modern slop by going into another war against emulation like in the early 2000s?
>>719342771This is such bullshit. Gen Z pretty much just plays free to play shit and the occasional new AAA game. Anything older than PS3\360 with these kids is boomer stuff and profoundly uncool.
>>719343030nigga i've been emulating pokemon on my phone since middle school, did the dementia hit you early lmao
Gen Z think Wii and 3DS are retro game consoles
>>719343223came in here to say that>>719343030emulation is treated as free-to-play shit too
>>719342771>Retro collecting is expensive, but considering new consoles cost 500+ dollars and games are now 80+ dollars, it's not that much more expensive anymore...that is completely retarded/wrong + undermines the very first sentence. AI article?
>>719342771I'm gen z and was playing n64 in the year 2000, millenials think they are still in their 20s and tgat gen z is 13 - 16 yos
uncs yapping about zoomers like it's not the big 25. zoomers are in their 20s at this point and it's mostly alphas that are grinding roblox, fortnite and aaa's. Just put the fries in the bag </3. y'all weren't playing decades-old games back when you was a kid, it's actually zoomers that show interest in old games.
>doom 2016>doom Eternal>zoomers venture even further and discover wads>start making their own>the once stale scene of slaughterwads from the same five autists is now brimming with new ideas and mindblowing map designBest thing to ever to happen to me
>>719343707Are zoomers really coming back to OG Dooms?
>its zoomers fault modern gaming is shit!>its millennials fault modern gaming is shit!>zoomers will save gaming! >millennials will save gaming!>zoomers only play brain dead modern games>millennials only play brain dead gay gamesits all so tiring
>>719342771Reminder that the Xbox 360 is a retro console.
>>719343223Wii technically is retro>>719343572The youngest zoomers barely started high school at this point so yeah, they would call on that younger age range. You older zoomers are typically alright in my book. Many of you weren’t completely mind fucked by cell phones and social media like core and late zoomers were.
>>719343030Zoomers are like 28 right now, you mean the "Alphas" are the ones that are being raised by ads, tiktok shit, groomed, etc. Those are the ones that are actually fucked up. Zoomers got to enjoy a fairly normal childhood, but Covid kinda fucked their 20s, so they wanting to go back to old school games makes sense.
>>719342771It's strange how I see articles like this while simultaneously also seeing articles about how the zoomers play nothing beyond F2P GaaS slop and are killing the games industry by not actually buying games.
>>719342771Just the other day there was a thread about how gen z don’t buy nintendo or even have steam accounts and only play shit like roblox and fortnite, and how they would be the death of vidya itself. Now they’re supposedly gonna be our saviors?
>>719343934Zoomers are 1996 - 2012. Young Zoomers are just as bad as alphas. Hell, even a good chunk of core Zoomers (born 2001 - 2007) act like brainrotted NPC zombies.
>>719343804Yeah but solely due to sheer amount of meme WADs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB4Aawd29jo
>>719342771The PS4 is 12 years old, wouldn't that be a retro console?
>>719343934Yea, nobody knows what generation is what anymore. It started with calling Gen X and Millennials boomers. Great job D.O.E. Everyone's retarded now.
>>719344142>just barely make the zillennial cutphew
>>719344309Retro is always 2 generations ago in my book. When I play a Wii or PS3 game it typically feels dramatically different in every possible way from stuff on the PS4 and PS5.
>>719343223The Wii came out in 2006 It's 19 years old.N64 to PS3 was 10 years. Face it, you're old.
>>719343223They are.
>>719344702So Xbox 360 and PS3 are now retro too right?
>>719344502The Wii U would be retro then so might as well lump the PS4 and Xbox One with it too. This current gen is almost over so it's only a matter of time until the PS4 is actually retro which is weird to think about. The SNES to the Xbox 360 was 15 years. That was 4 generations, they're twice as slow now. By the time the PS6 comes out, the PS4 will be about 14 or 15 years old.
>>719342771>So what does this mean for the modern video game industry?Basically everyone except Nintendo and indies will die.
>>719344702Face it, your childhood sucked complete ass.
>>719344502>When I play a Wii or PS3 game it typically feels dramatically different in every possible way from stuff on the PS4 and PS5.What games are you even playing where that's the case? Modern gaming was cemented in gen 6, everything after, for the most part, is just a bigger version.
>>719344502You fucking serious? GTA5 and Last of Us was PS360. That gen set the trends that we're still suffering from now.
>>719345939You forgot Skyrim.
>>719342771what does this article consider to be retro?i sincerely doubt zoomers are playing SNES games
>>719342771They're not "rejecting" anything. They're fucking broke.They're playing the games they can afford to play.
Grow up gramps, videogames are now better than ever.
>>719344502>2 generationsKek. You do fucking realise, that a ''generation'' in a literal sense is literally 30 years right?
>>719344502Nah, retro is something that's at least over 20 years. Xbox 360 is only now entering retro territory, and only early 360 titles are "retro games".Wii felt retro because of how shit and limited the hardware was compared to 360 and PS3, but in reality it's technically the youngest out of the 3 kek
>>719346132>t. someone born post 2010
>>719344174>wholesome chungus cuteslop and a museum with a selfie cameraWhat in the goddamn shit happened to my doom community?
>>719343871the older I get the more disgusted I have become by the constant doom posting and making everyone fight each otherrace, men vs women, age, countries, whateverits draining
>>719346191You are on /v/ - videogames, in a thread about videogames and videogame consoles. Gee, I fucking wonder what form of "generation" is being mentioned here.
>>719346132most current games are multiplayer focused, so in the end they're only as enjoyable as the people they set you up with. Old games were more single player focused because the internet didn't exist or wasn't widespread. They led to different experiences, that could be far more enjoyable if they matched what makes your heart tick. For instance, Simcity is deeply enjoyable if you're autistic, which is why Simcity 2013, that was multiplayer focused, failed miserably at the exact same time Cities Skylines that had zero multiplayer elements thrived.
>>719346367at some point you realize it's just the same arguments over and over with the same responses. a mental asylum to the mind
>>719344502Console generations hit a speed bump after 7th gen and we are now 2 "generations" into mostly generic x86 architecture and Nvidia shield tablets.The Wii is at most 1 gen ago, the Wii U was the only 8th gen console and 9th gen consoles are a myth.>When I play a Wii or PS3 game it typically feels dramatically different in every possible way from stuff on the PS4 and PS5.I don't really see how. Games from the tail end of 7th gen are mostly the same shit being produced now, just generally worse and more brazen.
>>71934659599% of online multiplayer games are cancerous and are the main reason why gaming is fucking ass nowadays.Old school couch co-op/versus is based tho
>>719342771What about the other 76%? Ha!
>>719343871If the political hate psyop doesn't work, then it's the race hate psyop, if it doesn't work then it's the generational hate psyop, etc.All to have the work class fighting and blaming each other while Taylor Swift takes daily 10 minute jet flights
>>719346723That's not how generations work at all.
>>719344502>When I play a Wii or PS3 game it typically feels dramatically different in every possible way from stuff on the PS4 and PS5.This is how you know most niggas on /v/ don't actually play vidya, or played like 2-3 games in the last 5 years and consider themselves gaymers, because they watch Let's Plays on jewtube.The jump between gens 7-8-9 is purely graphical. You could easily make the same shit games you see on PS5, on a PS3 if you downgrade the graphics and play with the memory limitations, but the gameplay will technically be the exact same.
>>719343223The retro cutoff if 2012 when reality collapsed and we entered the fifth world, just like the Mayans predicted.
I find this very hard to believe. When people say gen z are playing old games what they actually mean is they are playing old online games like GTA5 online which is from 2013. They dont mean they are playing games from the nes and snes and gameboy and ps1 and ps2 and n64 and gamecube.
Retro is an amalgamation of passage of time, capability, design philosophy and contemporary sensibilities. Don't even bother to @ me.
>>719347110I'm a 2000 born Gen Z fag and I got into retro gaming lately (last 2-3 years) because modern gaming is so fucking expensive. I got sick of different editions, micro transactions and all that shit.Now I just emulate and save money. I don't have any gamer friends other than my older brother who also only plays retro stuff, so not having online doesn't bother me.
>>719346595>le autism
Here's the thing, though: you don't need the original hardware to enjoy the games. In fact you're better off if you don't.
>>719343871It has to be both Millenials AND Zoomers who save gaming - not by their consumption of games, but by their creation of games. Games are only as good as the blood, sweat, and tears poured into them by the people making them - you have to have devs with good ideas who can properly execute those ideas on a large enough scale if you want gaming to get better in the long term. Pic related, Scott Cawthon created the closest equivalent to "Pokemania" that the Zoomers ever witnessed, and he did so as a one man army and an engine that's been outdated since the late 00's.
>>719342771as usual journalists cannot tell the difference between early z, late z and alpha so the information is pretty much worthless
My Niece asked if she could use my GBA to play Pokémon Yellow in real hardware.
>>719347757leave the door open
stop buying OG hardware even old crap is getting pricey
>>719342771I thought zoomers only played Fortnite.
>>719343030most zoomers are 30 now try keep up boomer
>>719345273Yes
>>719346128Correction: They are playing the games their parents buy them.
>>719347701The problem is zillenials only create Steven Universe, homoerotic, lgbt fagotry inspired slop.Every game looks the same, gameplay loops are cheap imitations of what was done in the past on other better, more successful games.The only thing some games do better nowadays is the sound department and that's because music creation evolved a lot in the past 25 years.
>>719342771Meds
>>719347031Holy buzzword slop
>>719343871In general, the people actually heads down making creative work are not worried about generations.In fact hanging out with the previous gen is how you learn and improve, and the cycle continues.
>>719347684Without original hardware you don't get the meta experience that comes with operating old hardware -- and software, especially in the case of old computer games (and by 'computer' I don't just mean x86/64 PC). The same applies to an extent to other materials that came with the game, such as manuals, copy protection shenanigans etc.
It's free, runs on potatoes, is risk-free, and also makes people feel entitled for some reason. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. This is the key to the "Retro" phenomena. So many of the people who play almost exclusively "Retro" games weren't even alive when they came out. It is because they can emulate an endless amount of games and play them whenever they want, dropping them the moment they stop having fun. If something is too hard, they can use save states or consume the endless amount of guides that walk them through how to do it. There is virtually no risk to emulation. Even low end hardware can emulate stuff and the size of older games is nothing compared to a modern game. On the other hand, it also has this weird hipster effect where they start to become more and more stuckup about their taste and feel like they have achieved a more refined taste palette for games. It would be like only eating organic foods and going to select restaurants, but also never actually having to pay for anything. The reality is that the vast majority of people are going to prefer playing a virtually endless amount of great older games for free instead of spending seventy dollars on a random remake or AAA game that requires modern hardware just to run at a decent capacity. They will tell you all day about how it is more than this, but in truth so many of the "Retro gamers" wouldn't be doing this if they had to pay retail price for every single retro game they played. They also wouldn't praise these retro games if they actually had to pay for them. The "wow this random retro game is actually a hidden classic!" video game essays wouldn't exist if they actually had to pay $100 for a mediocre piece of slop back in 92, but instead they get to download it in 10 seconds for free
>>719348013what buzzwords did he use?>jewtube>gaymersim genuinely confused
>>719342771retro games were more simpleretro games focused on gameplayIt's that shrimple. People want games, not overly complex realistic walking simulaotrs
>>719348013>buzzword is ironically the biggest buzzword and only fags use itdid getting called out for not playing games and posting on /v/ religious like an autistic cunt hit too close to home?
>>719347969Or perhaps your own ability to search for and find good work isn't as good as you think it is.The fact that you use "gameplay loop" tells me you are too plugged in to mainstream game marketing.
>>719342771>Retro gaming is much cheaperOld games cost $200 on average and ate illegal to download, how the fuck is the zoomers getting into this when they can't get jobs and are too tech illiterate to pirate?
>>719347701Imagine how much ahead everything would be if millennials were getting hired for jobs they applied for 20 years ago instead of being turned away for every single position they applied for?
Wait a minute you fags. Am I supposed to be angry about this, why are you all outraging about it?
>>719345543When I play a game like Motorstorm, God of War 3, or even Halo 3, the aesthetic, the culture, the gameplay mechanics, and even the writing is unlike anything released now. And the visuals are also vastly inferior to the last 2 generations. My point is that I’m very aware of rim playing a game from a very different time when I play 98% of 7th gen games. I feel like there’s a bit of a gray area with late 7th gen games like with what >>719345939 mentioned, but I still stand by what I said. You can pretty much go back to any console generation, look 2 gens back and see how different gaming had become by then.
>>719343030>Gen Z pretty much just plays free to play shitEmulators are free to play
>>719343223Retro != pixelshit Snes spritesretarded boomer-kun. Retro is about AGE not about the look.In 10 years PS4 gen will be considered retro and you WILL still cope as you get grey hair and bald. (like the rest of us)
>>719342771I guarantee this article considers xbox one and ps4 retro.
>>719347031>accuses someone else of not playing video games ever>outs themselves as a complete hypocrite in their own post
>>719343886No it's not. Retro specifically refers to a period of time, the 70s & 80s, not to how old it feels to you in the present. Stay in school, kid.
Why dont snoy take advantage of this and make a PS2 mini? How are they so fucking retarded?
>>719342771Good graphic cards (anything above 8GB) cost 500-800 dollars for entry level. The problem hasn't gone away in 8 years since crypto meme started, now AI and NVIDIA monopoly are buckbreaking the Pleddit /r/PCMR. No shit zoomers who barely afford anything aren't participating in the PC bleeding edge tech race.The zoomer who bought a gaming computer in the early 2010s for Minecraft and dumb online arena shooters like Fortnite can't afford to upgrade their PCs because PC gaming is at an unsustainable expensive threshold.
>>719348120Ah yes, who could stand playing old games without the shitty 13 inch CRT with one speaker and an rf input, which could be pseudo-upgraded to support composite video and RCA audio (mono) by plugging in a VCR? Rich retrofags modding in HDMI or SCART and playing on super high end panels with stereo audio wasn't the way most people played those old games.
>>719347940Gen Z are currently 13-28 or so. Most of them are already making their own financial decisions when it comes to trivial things like games.
>>719348541most of the popular ps2 games were third party so i assume it would be hard to get a green light from them
>>719347895No zoomers are 30 yet. 1996 is the earliest year I’ve seen as the beginning of Gen Z. Some are even 97 and 98. The vast majority of zoomers are mid to early 20s retard.
>>719348296Just a week ago I found a copy of State of Emergency for PC for $1.50A week before that I found a CIB long cardboard DESCENT for PlayStation for $15Retro is a bit cheaper over all than it was a few years ago. Will it remain cheaper? Probably not. However anyone with half a brain can find entire libraries of games to download and will never have to buy another game in their life if they so choose. I like owning games so I continue to hunt for them because it's fun. It's just not often I get to find boxed PC games at thriftstores like I used to fifteen years ago. Now I have to get excited to see games like Dungeon Lords and Dungeon Siege II at a thriftstore.
>>719348541Nigga the Ps1 classic fucking failed, and the Ps2 is a nightmare to emulate
>>719347969>>719348306I am convinced you people are a part of a demoralization campaign coordinated by some group or company with a vested interest in trying to depress everyone for no good reason. Have a shit and a cigarette and lighten up a little, holy moly. There's still good, non-gay, games being made - you can still find them, you just gotta dig a little. Can't find one you like? Make it then. Don't be needlessly reductive - don't just say "Yeah it's like this other game, so no one will enjoy it" - you're setting yourself and that "otherwise good" game up for failure doing that. Just fucking MAKE GAME. I've played RPG Maker Porno Games for the story numerous times, I've dug through old game dev forums looking for tech demos and games that never got releases on actual platforms - I recommend it, it's quite fun. Go to gamejolt or itch and search for free games on the farthest pages you can find - you have given up without even making a proper effort to have fun.
>>719348697just make it work. billion dollar company. enough complaining.
>retro games without save stateskek
>>719343223>WiiMaybe. It walks and talks like one even if its technically part of the seventh generation>3DSConsidering as the concept of handhelds as they existed with the 3DS and Vita no longer exist, it may be as well. It has much more in common with the original DS than it does with the Switch and Deck.
I added my zoomer brothers to my Steam family so they can have games to play. What if these zoomers just have millenial family members like me?
>>719348740Yes, keep gaslighting people. Their pasts didn't happen. They just imagine their lives suck. Really they're all millionaires and well respected in their community.
>>719342771>retro gaming is backit was never gone tho
>>719348516Find a textbook, fully agreed upon definition of what “retro games” are retard? You can’t. Some say retro is only pre-2000 games and consoles, some say it’s 20 years old (like /vr/), some say a specific console is the cutoff for X, y, z reasons. I say two console generation. Keep seething over a complete strangers opinion if you want though.
>>719348504Retro is about a difference in style. Something can't be retro if its made in the same style as all other modern devices. That said, there is still a strong argument to be made for the 3DS being retro under this definition.
>>719348412>that picgoddamn....old 80/90s anime upscaled the fuck up to HD looks sooo fucking bad it's unreal. Absolutely cursed
>>719344089The truth is zoomers are broke. Roblox is free and so is emulation.
>>719348583We're constrained by the space we have to work with, son.
>>719348862Don't put words in my mouth you blackpilling faggot, you know I never said anything about "anyone's past not happening" - I never said anything about the past at all, but I will here and now. If you're genuine, you live in the past and the inability to look around and face the present will be your downfall. You cling desperately to the bygone era without ever seeking to properly preserve and pass on what made those games good - the passion that was poured into them during development. It's people like you, so willing to lay down and die because "it's over" who ruin literally everything. There is no fight left in you - you are the raped, there's no other way to say it. You make me sick, and if I had my way everyone like you would be rounded up and put into camps.
>>719343223They are, no matter how much it hurts you.
>>719348541An SBC powerful enough to emulate PS2 would cost around $100. Factor that into production costs and the thing would cost $300 before tariffs. It's the same reason why a Saturn or Dreamcast Mini will never happen. Sony would probably have an easier time producing new PS2s with a built-in HDMI upscaler.
>>719348583I genuinely don't understand how much of that is relevant to my post. Also, RF looks alright, especially on a small TV, composite is fine with good/short cables and many computers had RGB input. Mind you, a lot of TVs had RGB input from the '80s onwards here and all of them by the '90s. Not that it was a guaranteed to get RGB signal from a console or even computer, but still.God, I love tinkering with this shit.
>>719348296>Old games cost $200 on averageThis is just a lie kekThe average price of games even on the more expensive systems like SNES, N64 is 30-50 bucks and you can find most of the good shit well below that. It's only 5-10 titles for each system that are ridiculously expensive that push the averages up.Of course then you have shit like Neo Geo or the obscure stuff, but that was always more expensive even back then
They said "own".I "own" a NES.I haven't played it in 10 years.Literally meaningless statistic.
>>719343372Retro consoles are still cheaper than modern consoles as long as you play common games or use flash carts/burned discs. A PSONE will run you about $40 and you can get the entire library for free with a modded memory card. Same for the DS Lite and an R4.
>>719349121Then stop putting them into other people's mouths, retard. You think every fucking little thing that happens is about video games? Grow the fuck up.
>>719349162yup. I have about 150 ps3 games and I checked the prices of all of them and 95% of them are selling for less than 10 bucks.
>>719349212You need to go back.
Millennials, when are you faggots going to admit that you ruined all culture? Video games, movies, anime, cartoons, comics, everything got worse when you became the primary audience (around the 2015 mark). You were too focused on shitty politics, internet memes, and the same shallow pool of shit references (Evangelion, Earthbound, FF7, etc.) to develop any sense of creative style or uniqueness or drive. Don't give me that "NOW IS THE BEST TIME FOR [X] EVER!!!!" bullshit, you know I'm right. Let's just admit it so that the healing process can begin.
>>719347825Huh? What door?
>>719347836>anon discovers that antique is expensiveThat's basically what retro hardware and physical software is becoming slowly but surely. Shit breaks and gets lost in time, which in turn makes everything more expensive. That and supply and demand -- some of which is "artificial", I grant you that.
>>719348516So the SNES isn't retro? Doom isn't retro?
>>719349379No, it's just people like you who ruin everything.
>>719342771As a late zoomer no, fuck your tendie platformers. I beat Half Life 1 several times and enjoyed it, but it's as early as i'm willing to go, provided i don't have to emulate anything. It's not that i'm afraid of having to figure things out, it's just that your toddler marioslop isn't even worth emulating. I hate tendie games so much it's unreal. I always thought pokeslop, plumberslop, hedgehogslop and the likes were just too childish, even as a kid
>>719349379I've seen your shitty unfunny memes and animations zoomer dumbfucks, it's only gonna get worse when you take the reins.
>>719348541Sony can't get a proper PS2 emulator running on the PS5 and they absolutely shit the bed with the PS1 Classic. They don't control the games that people would want either.
>>719349230>You think every fucking little thing that happens is about video games?>on /v/You cannot blame all games not being fun on "external factors", that is a lame copout on par with that shit women and faggots use to excuse blacks chimping out (socioeconomic factors). You are the raped, you are already dead mentally and spiritually, and no one will ever remember you when you're dead because you don't create.
>>719349543You're just a faggot who thinks he knows everything. When really you know so very very little.
>>719348013He's right though. Basically anything you do on a PS5 could be done on a PS3 with lower draw distance and more loading screens.
>>719349379>he says while posting Panty and Stocking, a millenial-core tranime
>>719349659Takes one to know one you raped bastard.
>>719349148>sony would have an easier time producing new PS2s with an upscalerNot a chance, the PS2 was an unholy abomination of custom hardware for specific purposes. The cost of fabricating new PS2s and trying to claw back the forgotten knowledge regarding it (not to mention needing to pack in an HDMI upscaler) would be astronomical compared to an SBC with enough horsepower to reasonably emulate it at native res.
>>719349379No games got worse around 2007 - 2009, the exact year is debatable but it is always going to be around this time. Also most industries are still just full of gen x and boomers pulling all the strings.
Millenial was the last generation with some soul left.
>>719348504>Retro is about AGE not about the look.Retro is about style>>719348917Keep seething. Retro isn't an age.
>>719342771>retro gaming is back because of some tiktok trendNo
>>719342771gamecube is a "retro console" to zoomers
>>719347110GTA 5 and most of the COD series are on 20 year old consoles. Most of the games I play are DS, PS1/2 games, and 20 year old PC games because of data limits preventing me from downloading new games.
>>719349883im 35 and the gamecube and ps2 are retro. in fact id say the 360 and ps3 are retro as well.
>>719349462you're sooo cool xD
>>719349971Yeah i'm told it very often, thanks.
>>719349963I'm 37 and retro is everything 5th gen and earlier and this won't change any time soon
>>719342771>Gen Z rejecting modern gamingCoping mechanism.
>>719343223>Gen Z think Wii and 3DS are retro game consolesBecause they are, I don't get this does retro never move to you?
>>719348583Playing on a shitty tiny CRT is cozy. That said a lot of consoles and especially computers supported RGB out. So as long as you have a compatible display you can play with good picture.>>719348120Most of this I agree with, but copy protection can go straight to hell. Besides old computers are expensive as hell and have a lot of expensive peripherals. I don't blame people for emulating them. I say this as a person who collects them.
>>719349810Show me where it says retro isn’t an age dumbass? We’re all waiting.
I've thought about getting one of those mini pc things and setting it up as an emulator box for old consoles and giving it to my zoomer brother. How much would that cost?
>>719342771weird how the same issue is hitting vidya, tv and movies. almost like making everything gay and retarded made it bad
>>719349883That’s because it is retro.
>>719349963I don't know if I would call the PS3/360 retro yet. Its very close to it, but the 7th gen had a pretty long life span. Its a bit too recent in my memory to qualify as retro
>>719350072How'd he get his youtube to look like that?>ten year old firefox versionWhy not use Palemoon?
>>719350064Please explain your logic behind this without resorting to mah RF and CRT argument. This is one of the dumbest cutoff arguments I’ve ever heard.
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>>719350221A raspberry pi with wifi goes like for like $40, then add in a microsd card that can fit a lot of roms on.If you've already got a monitor or he's got a tv then that's all you'd need.Maybe watch a guide or someone who's done it first on YouTube so you know what to expect.
This is bullshit, I'm 35 and back in school to get my Masters and all the Gen Z kids talk about when it comes to video games are Marvel Rivals, OW and shooters. The only people I've talked to who enjoy retro gaming are people my age or older and this one ultra genius 17 year old who grew up with 4 older brothers.
>>719350072it's become disturbing to me with the terminally online zoomers. they are so desperate for a world that doesn't exist.
>>719350380well I meant up to Ps2 and Gamecube so I dunno if raspberry pi could do those
>>719350327>How'd he get his youtube to look like that?https://github.com/lightbeam24/StarTube>Why not use Palemoon?Why the fuck are you asking me like I am him, am just saying it's gaint cope.
>>719349435No, SNES is not Retro, DOOM is not Retro. "Retro" by its formal definition is systems such as Commodore64, Atari-2600, Colecovision, and games such as PONG, Galaga, Space Invaders, and Rogue. The first commercial electronic video games, going up to 1980.SNES would be a "Second-gen" console, with NES being a "First-gen" console. DOOM is simply a "90s FPS". Systems and games of the 80s and 90s generally fall into the definition of "Classics", however these decades and games and systems are not as securely established in their definition as Retro games are. And it would be silly just to continually label everything older than oneself as "Retro" because then eventually you are putting something like an original Xbox on the same basis of comparison as an Atari, which is fucking stupid and ousts you as a moron with a weak grasp of English.Now that you've finished reading this: please feel free to knee-jerk post your moronic response.
>>719350431>it's become disturbing to me with the terminally online zoomers. they are so desperate for a world that doesn't exist.Every generation does something similar when the get OLD, yes I said it, if you do things like this it shows you are old.
>>719348639>This is who you share a site withI want to go back.
>>719350343>recent pastThanks for proving me right anon
>>719342771mega based
>>719348132Its possible for a game to be good, but not $100 good. In fact, I'd say that basically no game is worth $100.
>>719350451Oh then no, you'd need something a little beefier
>>719350221just get a chinese handheld and a 32gb SD card for like 70 bucks, probably some trimui or anbernic joint should door get a Wii with a hdmi adapter for $30-50 and mod it, it takes like 5-10 minutes to mod (not exaggerating)
>>719350407Have you tried to groom any of the zoomers?
>>719348296>illegal to downloadOnly shitalians get arrested for doing it. Anyone else is fine. Besides only rare collectable games are expensive. You want a copy of Mario and Duck Hunt or Call of Duty it's gonna run you ten dollars are so.
>>719350652the only reason I bought twilight princess was so I could mod my wiigood times
>>719350162Yeah, I'm not saying it's all good or that emulation is bad. My argument was more about how things 'around' the core gaming experience will be missing if you emulate, which is not necessarily a bad thing. You just won't get the 'full' experience of playing these games back in the day. And that comprehensive experience is what I personally vie for and enjoy. Emulatora are great but oftentimes the experience of playing a game on one is a bit too sanitised for me these days.
>>719343030Gen Z have businesses and families now anon this isn't 2018
>>719350407>This is bullshit, I'm 35 and back in school to get my Masters and all the Gen Z kids talk about when it comes to video games are Marvel Rivals, OW and shooters. The only people I've talked to who enjoy retro gaming are people my age or older and this one ultra genius 17 year old who grew up with 4 older brothers.Are they in in their mid 20s? then they play retro, the younger you go the more this trend stops.
If retro doesn't mean "old", what should we define as retro?>uses cartridges>anything before 1999>anything that doesn't have online functionality as standardWhat would you guys say?
>>719349379>Video games, movies, anime, cartoons, comics, everything got worse when you became the primary audience (around the 2015 mark).>2015sup zoomertard, being retarded again are we?
>>719350569Yup style of the recent past. Glad we agree.
>>719350784>the only reason I bought twilight princess was so I could mod my wii>good timesDang, I just used letterbomb, I just waited I knew it will resolve it self and it did.
>>719350548Yep, /v/ was still full of shitposting, but you could at least have a genuine discussion about games on here, even as recently as 2020. Now everything gets derailed or “nope UR wrong brah hahaha” I guess that’s what you get when the majority of users on here don’t actually play games and base their opinions of what YouTubers said about a specific game or genre.
Bought this weird little thing and been having a blast. It's very sturdy so I don't need to worry about it, and i prefer letterboxes on the top and bottom for 4:3 games over side ones.
>>719342771>Retro gaming is much cheaper
22 year old zoomer here. Which of these are certified boomer classics? I've never played old Nintendos before.
>>719350802Gen Z is mostly living with their parents still and are having way less kids than even Millennials who are already fueling negative population growth. I don’t blame them, but most zoomers are in their 20s still and trying to figure out life.
>>719351001Actraiser is decent
>>719350478Aren't you supposed to be washing your penis right now?
>>719350827>If retro doesn't mean "old", what should we define as retro?>uses cartridgesSo PC Engine CD (1988) and Sega CD (1991) aren't retro got it.
>>719350943free is cheaperespecially when you factor in people spending $1000+ on gacha gamespeople buying retro games is amusing, you're just giving money to some fag and not back to the devs
>>719342771>uk surveyso it's worthless
>>719350943>>Retro gaming is much cheaperYou are right anon the OP is smoking crack retro games cannot be cheap.
>>719350478Retro just means not in the modern style. It doesn't have to be a specific style, just any style that is no longer in vogue. That's why stuff from the 50s and 80s are both considered retro despite being radically different styles.Xbox is radically different from the modern style of consoles, so its retro.Also the SNES was a 4th gen console. NES was third gen. Atari 2600 was second gen. Pong Consoles and Magnavox Odyssey were first gen.
>>719351105all surveys mean nothingpeople just make that shit up or they just get an llm to come up with it
my biggest dream is a world where the parents of the faggot who spammed the 30 year old boomer wojak had used a condom the night they conceived him
>>719342771No zoomers are playing with fucking Gameboys unless its part of some social media trend
>>719349741>forgotten knowledgeSony/Foxconn stopped producing it only 13 years ago, so the documentation has to be lying around somewhere. As for the cost of fabbing custom hardware, remember that the PS2 retailed for $99 with a pack-in game at the end of its lifespan in 2012. 13 years later, chip foundries have come a long way, so maybe reproducing the Emotion Engine wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
>>719348697>>719349148The PS3 was able to emulate the PS2 well enough. That's what all those PS2 classics on the PSN store were.
>>719351236this tbqh
>>719342771>Will companies start forcing players to play modern slop by going into another war against emulation like in the early 2000s?The alternative is to make good games and they sure as fuck won't do thatSo yes, they'll crack down hard on emulation and they'll keep re-releasing the same games while removing previous versions from storefronts
>>719351057Is that what you define it as?
>>719351356Yup.
>>719351356Is the clown girl's source porn too?
>>719349149Every part of it is relevant. If you could read instead of posting the same image twice you'd possibly be capable of comprehending such a simple statement.
>>719350827>If retro doesn't mean "old", what should we define as retro?An all emcompassing style of the medium that is mostly foreign to what we have now.
>>719343030What is it with old retards on this site acting like they know everything about zoomers when they haven't spoken to a single one in their lives
>>719350827I can't offer any input on this. It's not like music where generally speaking "Classic Rock" is defined as anything that's 15+ years old. I remember the first time I heard 3 Doors Down on the Classic Rock station, I was only 19 and I was frightened. Regardless, if it's based on what type of physical storage the game was in, this brings about the realization that one day we'll define what is and isn't retro by whether it ever had a physical release or not.
>>719351414No, I'm saying your criteria for "retro" is retarded.
>>719342771>they have a retro console (PS3/Wii/360) because their weird uncle boomer (me) died
>>719350654Lol no but I went on a few dates with someone my age but I work 40 hours and do night/online classes I don't have time to be a decent partner >>719350806Early/Mid, its a Masters program so I think the average age is 22-26
>>719351527Ace attorney >They always ask you for honks but never for feels
>>719350827>If retro doesn't mean "old"Retro does mean old, this dude is in his 50s or so and he is coping.
>>719351803No it means old style
>>719351552Now you're just repeating yourself.
>>719351856>No it means old styleYou are not getting any younger by lying to yourself anon.
I define "retro gaming" by the graphics plateau. Past a certain point, it all starts to feel samey. The latest I might consider something "retro" is maybe gamecube and PS2.
>>719350943>>719351138Emulation exists, and even on original hardware, flashcarts/ODEs and homebrew let you pirate everything.
>>719351919You're not getting older and wiser by lying to yourself anon
>>719343871Zoomers have no money. They can't afford to do anything. IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR BEING POOR
>>719351768what is she trialed for
>>719351949>>719351087>>719351138Emulation is akin to phone "gaming", it isn't gaming and ironically enough that's what they're emulating on.
>>719344702>>719348504>>719349131Is "definition of retro" just a bait argument like "no one ever called it the PSX"?Because one "side" never engages with what the other side has to say, at all>the SNES was retro five years after it came out because the PS1/N64/Saturn were that incredible>doesn't matter year number go up ur bald>Resident Evil 3 was a dramatically different game 20 years later and Resident Evil 4 wasn't >doesn't matter ur fat year number go up>PS360 era games like Skyrim, Minecraft and GTA5 are still current gen>doesn't matter u have gray hair number go upThis isn't even a fucking conversation, so why are we bothering to speakYes I know the only replies I get will be canned meme shitposts
>>719343871It's divide and conquer. It's what despots have used to control people for millennia.
>>719351707Those aren't my criteria, that was a short list to get your brain moving. I was asking for your personal definition, but I can tell you aren't in the mood to share.>>719351580How do you define that style? Is it like an aesthetic like "mid-century modern" or "cassette futurism"?>>719351654Bro I had a meltdown when they started playing Green Day and Blink-182 on the classic rock station. Personally I think either retro should mean "20 years ago" or "Anything up to 1999 (PS2/Xbox/GCN/DreamCast)"
>>719352390that argument makes zero senseso you're saying the emulation that nintendo and sony do on their consoles means those games aren't actual games?out of interest, have you ever played a video game before?
>>719347031>>719347969they are right you know
>>719352395Zoomers weren't alive to see the very meaning of gaming change every 18 months so they don't know the hell they live inLess time passed between the release of Wolfenstein 3D and Half-Life than between Doom Eternal and today
>>719342771The only zoomers I know pretty much exclusively play gacha shit like genshin or compslop like Marvel Rivals.
>>719342771>have console as a kid>don't sell it or have it stolen for crack (hardmode?)>grow up>console is now retroI am more surprised that the percentage is not higher.You actually tossed your GBA instead of letting it rot in a box in your room? Don't you know some speculator fag would pay good money to let that rot in a box in their house instead?
>>719352679hey I like marvel rivals
>>719352690I traded in my DS a long time ago and regret it every day. Thankfully I held on to all my GameCube and GBA stuff. Nintendo shit is stupid expensive if you're a coomlector like me
>>719352647>Less time passed between the release of Wolfenstein 3D and Half-Life than between Doom Eternal and today
>>719352795I think it's Jesus Christ.
>>719352578>so you're saying the emulation that nintendo and sony do on their consoles means those games aren't actual games?Yes, 100%. Nintendo doesn't even allow you to own the games you're emulating on their devices.
>>719352395>>719352647You have no clue what retro even means.
>>719352923Check out this retro movie, they don't make em like this anymore
>>719352381That's a defense witness but dough suffocation
>>719352914so like steam then
>>719351931yes, retro is defined how different two points in time in your compression are ps1 was deeply retro in 2006 despite it's lifecycle ending in 2000
>>719352923Zoom zoom
>>719343871The two gens who never had a single say in anything lmao
>>719353048Is what you are, yes.
>>719352958This movie sucked but I was genuinely shocked when Thor's hand got graphically chopped off so I give it some points for that.
>>719353076>It's the Zoomers claiming that PS3 and 360 aren't retroAbsolutely schizophrenic post
I love getting lectured by sóyllennials trying to tell me what games I did and didn't play during my own childhood
>>719352794The DS was a piece of shit, man; the hinges snapped for everyone I knew with one.It was nice having the backlit screen for gba games, but that thing was so flimsy compared to the gameboys.
>>719349379This is sort of true, but it's because millenials got fucked over really hard.>being white or asian gets you discriminated against>being straight gets you discriminated against>being male gets you discriminated against>wanting to make something thay isn't just thinly veiled propaganda means your ideas will all be rejectedMillenials got fucked hard because they were pushed down in order to give handouts to women, browns, and gays. It's no coincidence that on the indie scene, where one works for oneself and cant be bullied by DEI/affirmative action, there are many notable figures, yet none are black or Indian or gay or female or trans. The decline of AAA has coincided perfectly with the rise of DEI and outsourcing to poos.
>>719343159>Emulating on phone>Middle schoolHoly fuck, I'm actually getting oldI was playing GBA in middle school
>>719352647>proving Doom Eternal is retroNice self own retard
>>719353237I still have a 3ds xl, it's awesome
>>719353121The zoomies are the ones making retarded posts, which is what you've been doing this whole thread.
>>719343030Emulation is free as other anons said, but lots of young people go through a collectan phase tooI had a Saturn with a decent collection when I was like 18
>>719353328This is my first my first post ITT schizo kun
>>719352987Steam isn't retro for like 90% of its catalog.
>>719353414you don't own the games
>>719342771I'm a zoomer, this is pretty much total horseshit as far as I can see. Pretty much everyone I know around my age is as much of a retarded consumer as the normalfags of every other generation.
>>719353395Then why did you reply to my post, retard-kun? I wasn't talking to you.
>>719348412>the aesthetic, the culture, the writingAll true>the gameplay mechanicsThey definitely have a different “feel”, but the mechanics themselves have barely changed since the early 2010sWhen was the last time western open world games meaningfully changed since like, Ass Creed 2 or 3?
>>719353578there's a shitload of amazing older gamesthere's an overabundance of remakes and slop coming out from modern gaming and shit optimization and predatory shit with microtransactionsit's not worth it and playing older games is just a better experience for people
>>719342771Zoomers are old, and the games they grew up with are retro.If you disagree, you are basically the oldest person ever.
>>719350458Thank you anon, this works great. Youtube runs a lot faster now.
These surveys are always bullshit. They only ask about 10 people what they think.
>>719353829They don't have to actually ask anyone.
>>719353750Correct, that doesn't mean normalfags aren't going to be normalfags, regardless of when they were born
>>719342771Imagine wanting to play a game that isn't bogged down with microtransactions, season passes, graphics settings, updates, and can just be played on almost any device now, desktop or handheld, and stories actually written for enjoyment not social agenda
>>719342771>don't tell them what Gen Z consider retro
>>719342771What letter comes after gen z? Gen A? Why did we decide to use the letter Z?
>>719354375Why is the generation coming after alpha cursed to be all known as betas? We just don't know
>>719354375alphoomers
>>719354510I don't get how letsplays/streaming of all things oneshots boomers so hard as if they never watched their friends play a game while hanging out at their house.Or even older boomers watching shit like talk shows where the host does live news react streams for television.Or even just watching sports. Passive media has existed for all of history but this is what they choose to hyperfixate on.
so what are the best retro games to play while flying? I'm going to taipei soon and I need to figure out how I'm going to pass the 14 hour flight
>>719354965Wizardry Story of Lyllgamyn for the SNES.
>>719355439holy based, looks like an old school etrian odyssey
>>719345273No, because 7th gen games look no different from current gen games.
>>719355673I love it, aesthetically and sonically. Foreboding graphics and a rich, orchestral soundtrack that push the SNES to its limits. The gameplay loop is tedious as fuck however, but I guess that's good for a long flight. You'll want to bring along some graphing paper and a pencil.If you don't want to play it, just pause it and listen to this on a loop https://youtu.be/WqmIx3WFl00?feature=shared
>>719354510Fortnite will be eternal
>>719353347Absolutely based zoomer.Out of curiosity, what are your favorite SAT titles ? And did you give a try to the PC-Engine too ?
>>71935668633 year old here, I don't see the point in collecting at all. Everything is data these days, it just makes moving difficult as hell. I have like four bookshelves of books from when I used to prefer paperbacks to ebooks, but now that I just pirate all of my books I feel like it is such a waste. Honestly, if I could live in a capsule hotel I would, all I really need for my personal space is a bed and a desk for my pc. Obviously for fucking around it wouldn't work, but I'm sure I could make do.
>>719353276Next, you'll say race is only skin deep, then refer to yourself as a woman.
>>719350149Retro isn't a time thing it's a style thing. PS3 and 360 will never be retro becomes games then are practically the same as they are now. We've been stagnating for years
>>719342771On the one hand, I'm glad zoomers are discovering good games and not playing modern pozzed garbage. On the other hand, I'm worried they're going to invoke the wrath of gaming companies and governments who want us plebs to be broke and consuming the newest propaganda piece ($80 plus tip)
>>719353347I went through the same thing with the N64, but I'm a palcuck so I got sick of dealing with inferior versions and not being able to import shit so I just started emulating
>>719350827Ask /vr/
>>719349787t. thread
Americans obessing over birth years has had a terrible effect on all of culture.
>>719352395People just really don't like thinking about how little has changed in gaming in past 20 years. Every single game made today could have been released 10 to 15 years ago with just graphical fidelity loss.
>>719358370I played some Portal 2 and Dishonored this week, and I wouldn’t that little has changed in the industry the last 20 years. It has gotten much, much worse.
>>719358325It's not even years, these cretins have completely swallowed marketing speak and categorize people into "le generations", somehow missing that people are born every day
>>719343223I'm sorry anon. But you're old.
>>719358325They sometimes say a meme age range but refer to another, I give up keeping track of it.
>>719342771"retro gaming is back"Zoomers only "retro game" because its free, they also only "retro game" shit thats easy to emulate on a phone and has no tech literacy barriers.This doesnt do anything for "retro gaming", except maybe sell a few hot topic tees.
>>719353347I’m in my 40s and belong to several collecting groups. Almost no one in them is younger than 30. I’d say maybe 5% of the groups are in their 20s, and virtually non are teenagers. Outside a few isolated cases, Zoomers are not playing retro consoles or games, emulation or otherwise.
>>719342771In the past couple years I have noticed a ton of retro games getting discussed in a way I wasn't seeing before. At first I was thinking its all indians like I see getting said but now I think its because maybe a lot of Gen Z is playing these games and formulating their own opinions. Most of the time its shit opinions and trolling but whatever.
>>719342771>zoomer hates their own era and instead idolizes millennials, gen x, boomers and whateverEverytime kek, retarded zoomers
>>719361984To be fair, zoomers really never had much positive to look forward to at any point. Subsequent generations have it even worse. Granted, even millennials had is worse than the previous generation, and the same of x to boomers, but we can all still remember a pre 9-11 world, and I feel like that is a VERY serious gap from what came after.
>>719361984That's a good thing though. I wish all zoomers were into stuff from the past and stopped consuming slop like Fortnite and Taylor Swift.
>>719361984>implying pop culture now is better than it was 20 years agoCorporations buck broke you anon
Anything up to SEGA withdrawing from home consoles is classic gaming. Afterwards is modern classic.
>>719342771It's just consumerism of a different face.
>>719361984I can't blame them. they look back and they see that we had hope and a positive outlook on the future. of course they want to experience that era. they're lost, and they have no clue how to get things back to the way they were when everything genuinely sucked a whole lot less.
>>719364212Anti-consumerism is just->NOOOO STOP ENJOYING THINGSNobody who uses that term is a thinker who believes in freedom.You socialists enabling the institutions to launder 50% of the nation's wealth back into their pockets is why they appear invulnerable to the damage caused by their schemes and why companies are forced to keep hiring these useless slimeballs in order to participate in the economy in any meaningful way.
Zoomers are pushing 30 or there already, they aren't the young hip and vivacious generation anymore
>>719342771i'm guessing "retro games" in this context means like a xbox 360
>>719361984I thought zoomers were brainwashed to see anything before the election of King Obama as being evil, colonialist, racist and evil???
wrong, zoomerz hate old shit, it be kinda ahh fr senpai
>>719346010Mini consoles and chinc handhelds, probably.
>>719343159not funny
>>719343223The Wii is absolutely retro. DS and 3DS are retro too.
>>719343886>>719343886nigger, a gen doesn't span two decades.
Tye byproduct of the hyperinformation sphere is that even it's worst addicts are keenly aware of the downsides.I think alphied will be fine in spite of their unique challenges.It really makes you wanna smash a bitch with a brick when you see a parent let the phone raise their kid.At leadt fucking curate content on that bitch. Download a repository of cartoons and make them go always offline goddamn.Literally no reason your kid cant be just watching the greats of animation from the last fourty years as opposed to sensory stimulation tiktoks with goop Nd sludgd.
>>719348967Nothing from the 80s and only barely anything from the late 90s looks like that you mcfucknugget retard.
>>719361984Eh just the next version of the 80s dicksucking.
>>719350827For me it's up to the PS2 and Gamecube era. A lot of games from that generation were basically the foundations for a lot of the core mechanics and genres we see in modern singleplayer games, and their similar gameplay makes them far more digestible for zoomers and casual gamers to get into.Shit from N64, PS1 and earlier is considered far too mechanically archaic and visually dated and i genuinely don't see anyone who didn't outright grow up with these systems get into them. Even less so the "nintendo hard" 2D era.
>>719361984Core millennial here.When I was a kid, everyone was listening to contemporary music, watching contemporary movies and television, and playing contemporary games, and we thought that things were just going to keep getting cooler forever. Sure, people liked 80s media, but it was on the periphery, and most people would have agreed that contemporary media is the best. It's not like today where you see guys in their early 20s primarily talking about things that are 20-40 years old. And while Japanese media was also prevalent, foreign media was maybe 50% of the discussion of modern media instead 90%. I think that the single biggest thing that was lost as the banking cartels chased the talent from every industry and destabilized our countries was actually the intangible feeling of optimism that leads people to smile as they wake up in a vibrant culture and yearn for tomorrow instead of yesterday.
>>719346359looking for shit to cry about
>>719346359Le subversive deconstruction of the genre ARG zoomer horror complete with a trans allegory that went viral and caused an influx of normies to flood the WAD community.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wAo54DHDY0
>>719350943It's only expensive if you go physicalHell, I'm not even factoring in emulation. Hardware has tons of piracy solutions available for it now. Of course it's a bit more pricey than emulation but it's not complete bullshit like modern retro collecting.
They mean the Xbox 360 tho
>>719348306There are some studios right the fuck now that have zoomer's in higher positions than millennials.Theres some girl on tiktok that did some "day in the life" slop where she is (and you can confirm on her linkedin) a fucking product manager for EA or some shit and she basically lords over a bunch of depressed millennial programmers.zoomer women get paid 200k/yr to "um, could you add more transgirls, sweetie?" a bunch of 30 year old men who've been stuck in the same mid level position for the last decade. The boomers wont quit and even when they do the x'ers move up first, and so millennials are stuck in the lowest rung for the next 30 years while zoomer negros and women are getting free rides on fake positions created for no reason but to appease government niggermandates.Even worse, the reason why games are so shit now is that when they do hire someone at the bottom, they arent competent to begin with. a guildmate's girlfriend works for one of the big american devs (I honestly cant remember which, but they certainly are in california because he never stfu about how great california is) and she has no business being a senior concept artist...one, because she's only been in the industry for 3 years, two, because she draws like picrel.
>>719343223Wii was a honorary 6th gen console and 3DS was the last true dedicated handheld.
>>719343030>>719343223It's funny how much you millennials seethe over zoomers being every bit of the gamer you wish you were
>>719368395>the banking cartels chased the talent from every industry and destabilized our countries
Who cares, it's sad as fuck that they're reminiscing on millenial childhood because theirs sucked. When I was young in the early '90s Atari was unplayable trash and even today I won't touch it.
>>719368395>foreign media was maybe 50% of the discussionYou are insane, animeshit was reserved to weird chinese cartoon with exception of the 1% that managed to become successful like candy candy and other shit
>>719370438Are you aware that Mario, Sonic, Street Fighter, and Pokemon are Japanese
>>719351527i'm in a fag relationship with a zoomer femboy, he's 23. cringe clown porn is part of his goon rotation. it's literally labeled as cringe clown porn. like all zoomer things, it's complete brainrot.
>>719368815The funny thing is that it's not a trans allegory courtesy word of god
>>719361984I think a large part of it is the undeniable differentiation between the post internet and pre internet society. Millennials and before got to experience it first hand whereas to zoomers the pre internet world is strange and mysterious and unknown to them, almost like looking at a different world. Of course they tend to focus on the positive differences and not the negative ones, but you can't blame them for feeling faux nostalgia for a time that most people have real nostalgia for.
>>719370438pokemania was the beginning of the end of western media. that wasn't an opening salvo, it was a nuclear bomb.
>>719351356Look man I am a depressed man in his later 30s that's anime backlog grows by nearly as many shows as I intend to watch every season but I set aside time for Kitagawa-san's perfectly drawn gyaru form.
Why pay $70 for modern slop when I can spend half(minimum) that and get a much better and complete game
>>719353347>>719353578Who are all the rabid anti-emulation schizos popping up recently then? I agree that it just doesnt' add up.
My takeaway from generation wars is that millennials never grew out of being the asshole older brother, and zoomers never grew out of being the annoying younger brother.
>>719343223Anything a decade old is retro. Anything 2015 or older is retro you old fat fuck
>>719369319Zoom Zooms playing classic games is great. They have access to a lifetime of great games that they could always find something to play. Thank God site made ROMS of old games readily available. If your a zoomie who like Dark Souls, check out Lost Kingdom. Game is underrated and needs more love.
>>719375734Most anti-emulation shills come from the same few groups>Tendies or other hardcore consolefags upset that their exclusives aren't locked to their box anymore>Nostalgiafags that think the box they grew up with is absolutely essential, even if the emulation is perfect>Collectorfags that need to flaunt their moneyThese groups are gradually growing (except the collectorfags) and they all have the same superiority complex towards emulation.
>>719344142ummm,.... 1996 is millennials actually...
>>719367304If you are going to label the 3ds as retro you'll have to mark the PS4 and xbone as retro as well.Keep in mind the ps4 somehow gets new releases to this day.
>>719343223time for pills, grandpa!
Is gen z actually embracing retro games? There could be hope for humanity yet. I don’t think any consumer product i the last 10 or arguably 15 years has compared to shit from 20 or more years ago. I don’t blame zoomers for rejecting modern products I’m just impressed to hear they are aware enough to do so since modern media if all they know: maybe there is a sliver of hope for humanity after all. God speed zoomers
>>719342771Back in my day games were fun to play
Schizophrenic journalists continue to write nonsense about younger generations to avoid the truth that the job market and economy is in shambles and people are poor.
>>719343030Fuck you, im a zoomer and i was playing ffx on my ps2 just a few hours ago. And earlier today, i was playing 3rd strike (oe on my ps3 but its a late 90s game) at a fighting game meet up at a local comic book shop with friends and the regulars who go there. Pic related, *my* ps2, you ignorant douchebag
>>719377552Accidentally left my name as sage from a different thread, disregard that
>>719343223The Wii is going to be twenty next year, anon.
>>719342771Zoomers are the biggest supporters of modern gaming.
>>719376946It's usually not outright rejection of modern products. At least when I was a kid I still had interest in games that came out before my time and played them but it wasn't because I hated current games. Same thing with movies and music.
>>719346595100% agreed. Online multiplayer games are a fucking plague. They're almost half as bad as gacha shit at this point.
>>719376946>no money>no hope>world is going to shit>go back to the past when things weren't so badGrim
>>719377552>fat PS2Now that's a relic right there.
>>719343223I think the Wii is a retro console because I don't use it for anything but Gamecube games, emulation, and Monster Hunter Tri.
>>719377552>at a fighting game meet up at a local comic book shop with friends and the regulars who go there.Tekken 5 and the Tag Tournament would be great for that. Tekken 5 alone since you can go back to 1, 2 and 3 all on the same disc via the arcade mode.
>>719344321That’s why we used 90s kid 10 years ago before the meme of the generations started.
>>719345986And Sims 4.
>>719343871>>719346367
>>719348296Easy, they’re not, the old games are GTA V and Fortnite. Retro gamess will never be popular with a significant part of the population, same as old movies, it will forever be a niche.
>>719343030This is anecdotal, but I've got first hand proof of the younger generation being interested in retro shit. I traded a 22 year old for a crt with my snes and all my games, he even restored it. He loves it. And when I went to the retro game store there was a family with a like 8 year old boy who was buying original game boy games. The clerk asked him if he knew he needed an old game boy and he pulls out his vintage original game boy to show him. Crazy as fuck to see it.
>>719343223Retro ends at PS1. PS2 onward are new
>>719349379The fuck did I do, I’ve been against the gay shit since forever
>>719346680It's done on purpose to hide the fact our money is fake and this fake money is the lifeblood of the global economy.The people who own this money supply hold all the cards unless their financial system collapses via a revolution
>>719349379>around 2015No anon everything went to shit in 2007, you were just too young to notice.
>>719343223uhhh
>>719349462That’s because you’re a teenager and your parents will only get you one console: the play station, so you have to cope online. Don’t worry most snoys are like this.
>>719350796The solution? Invest trillions into making a real Holodeck that will make it all feel and look rela. Good luck convincing anyone to fund it, bypass the laws of physics to make it work and make it affordable, however.
>>719349963>i am age and my opinion is fact
>>719379343t. Barclay
>>719342771>less than a quarter>"owns" (not plays, not plays regularly)>a ""retro"" game system (aka PS3, 360, Wii, or 3DS)wow it's literally nothing
>>719379076wrong, dipshit
>>719342771>/v/ says modern games are shit>zoom zooms apparently agreeI wonder if we will have people saying modern gaming is good now just to be different.
>>719373337>hurrr le daycare decor kiddy crap is le soulmakes me laugh every time
>>719342771To be fair, modern games suck. Most of them are focused on live-service, loot crates, in-game currency, and boring daily challenges.The AAA industry has made gaming into the equivalent of those iPhone games.
>>719342771Zoomers are fine by me. We all know who the real enemy is.
What emulator do I use to play Switch games and where did /emugen/ go?
>>719380579>/v/ calls games shit when the enshittification began >hurr hurr /v/ is just being contrarian
>>719342771I used to play mostly retro games when I was a poor child, then I grew up
>>719343223In 2005 I would've considered the NES a retro console. After all, it came out twenty years ago. Problem is we're almost 20 years past that. OK, maybe not the 3DS but the Wii was 19 years ago. It's a scary thought but not an unreasonable one.
>>719383693The NES was retro in 2005 not because it reached an arbitrary age but because NES games were totally different to contemporary games by then.
>>719342771It's so funny to me how completely retarded millennials turned out. They trust gaming journalists even more than boomers worshipped news anchors. Every week they flipflop over the new fotm nothingburger and bitch about the younger generations they know nothing about outside of internet shitposts because they never leave their basement.
>>719344702Bodied
>>719342771>24% owning a retro consoleyeah I call bullshit, most zoomers I know don't even really play vidya (unless they're calling last gen stuff retro and thus including the ubiquitous PS4/Switch)
>>719347701Except FNAF isn't actually good. Zoomers like the porn and the lore and bought the newest games for FOMO reasons but it sucks as a game. Nobody pre-FNAF thought the Digital Pictures games (the closest concept gameplay-wise) were good and they still aren't.
>>719343871Regardless of the generation, the eternal normalfag is scum.
>>719383928I played the first game and it was shit I can tell you that.>the pornOf animatronics?
>>719349462lmao you're a real faggot
>>719342771Every generation prefers some old games now but people still do buy new games. >So what does this mean for the modern video game industry?Cheaper games with creativity. More retro inspired indies. >Will companies start forcing players to play modern slop by going into another war against emulation like in the early 2000s?No, they'll make more remasters/remakes. Also they can't do anything about abandonware especially PC games.
>>719344502so amiga and commodore are what now? vintage? prehistory? what about rock station made by grug in 50000 BC? what is that?you niggers need to come up with new terms instead of moving the old ones in time
>>719342771I refuse to believe they can think for themselvesHating the current releases (and rightfully so) just happens to be the mainstream opinion among the ecelebs they worship
>>719342771They're going back to the past? To play the shitty games that suck ass?
There's something so fascinatingly morbid about zoomer cargo cults with them being the framework for complete global muttification and allI feel bad for them but like in a shitbull kind of way where there's absolutely nothing you can do
>>719342771>Gen Z rejecting modern gamingDafug is "modern" about modern gaming exactly?One of the biggest games for the ps5 the is MGS3 a remake of a 20 year old ps2 game the game i was most excited about last year was DQ3 HD a remake of a remake both of which came out years before i was bornModern gaming is nonexistant its just an endless queue of remakes and remasters of games we already played or woke movieslop for normies which i dodnt care aboutRetro gaming is the only thing worth playing these days
>>719380574right, silly
>>719367524Gentle parenting If the kid wants to watching Minecraft horror videos then he gets to watch Minecraft horror videosThat's why I always grab the remote and flick on Ducktales or Batman or whatever whenever my nephews come round.
>>719342771>>719344502"Retro" is a technological point. 3d gaming doesn't compare to early 3D let alone 32bit, 16bit, 8bit gaming. PS1/N64 is the definitive cut off for retro.
