Is this and the sequel I won't name to save us from reddit humor worth playing? Craving a Pokemon game for the last decade but everything has been shit in that time frame.
Colosseum is almost like an offcial self imposed challenge, where your pool of Pokemon is limited across the game, as well the pool being mostly 2nd Gen Pokemon(who aren't that good) On top of that, the game uses Doubles format, opening a bunch of different tactics.
This game never fucking ends and the battles are slow as shit because they're double battles. The spectacle of 3D battling gets old about halfway through and you're just praying for death until the end. Plus without wild pokemon battles there's no way to grind except losing at the same battles over and over again until you have enough exp and then win. It's tedious in the truest sense of the word. I only played through it so I could finish the gen 3 dex
>>719346413Yes. They're proof that Pokemon should always be double battles.
>>719346413It's definitely a novelty worth playing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bhWdVnGt38
>>719346413This has one of the cooler finales in Pokemon games
It has great music, gives access to a bunch of Gen 2 Pokemon that are otherwise impossible to find in Gen 3 and the Pokemon that are purified gain a unique ribbon that can even be displayed in the current Gen games. It's a pretty cool game.
>>719346413Depends on what you are out for, Colosseum is pretty strict with team Buulding and your otions unless you transfer in (And honetsly? you probably won't bother), its main draw was focusing completely on Double Battles when they were kind of a rarity in the mainline game Gale of Darkness is more lenient with your option but alos has a fairly sizable segment where you can't Snag at all IIRC, it was ages since i played it.If you are the type who "wants to adventure with Bros" or "Catch them all" or freedom in your team seection they are less interesting and can potentially be outright annoying, though as said, you CAN trade in GBA mons. They are also pretty slow by modern standards.
Did the sequel remove the edge? The first game clearly was trying to be a bit edgy which is kinda fun. In the sequel the protagonist looks like a generic faggot hence why I am asking.
>>719347193It reduced it, but honestly people overstate the amount of "Edge" of the original a fair bit too when gassing it up.
It's a very condensed Pokemon adventure where instead of long routes you have a lot of hallways where trainers will jump down from the roof to battle you. Expect a lot of running back to heal spots. Not different from the old games in gameplay really even with the reduced roster, just atmosphere.>>719347193If you look past the edge of the first game there's plenty of silly shit (everyone loves Miror B and he is ridiculous), and if you look past the kid protagonist of the second there's still city takeovers and the villains using a Pokemon to steal a cargo ship. No Under is sad and I don't much care for the guy riding Robo-Groudon, maybe if it was like 5 times bigger.
I hated that it was not like a real Pokemon game as a kid but now I think I would enjoy the restrictive gameplay more than a real Pokemon game.
Cipher Peon Skrub.
>>719346413>the sequel I won't name to save us from reddit humorXDDDD he can't say the name haha LOL!
>>719349052Say the name then if you are so tough.
>Mfw the final boss had his Scizor use Swords Dance and then Baton Pass to his TyranitarI didn’t know the A.I. could think that far ahead
>>719349373Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness (GCN, 2005, Genius Sonority)
>>719350135>XDFuck off.
>>719346413I only played the sequel and didn't care much for it, and apparently it's better than the first one, so yeah, but then again it might be one of those cases of games considering average back then aging well due to how shit everything else has gotten, ESPECIALLY pokemon
>>719350135>XDGet this Redditor out of here
>>719346601>s. The spectacle of 3D battling gets old about halfway through and you're just praying for death until the end. Plus without wild pokemon battles there's no way to grind except losing at the same battles over and over again until you have enough exp and then win. It's tedious in the truest sense of the wordThat's incredibly depressing.
>>719347071You can't trade in GBA mons until you beat the game, but since we live in the future you can very easily just save edit in whatever you want
>>719352186Right that was my bad then, thanks for the clarification, it has been years since i played it.
First one is really shit.Second is ok.
>xDwhat has become of this place??? holy fucking shit
I liked it, though it can be really confusing to figure out how to progress and the shadow pokemon mechanic is really cryptic. Not to mention if you teach the wrong moves and realize in hindsight there is not going back.Great atmosphere and had more fun with than any pokemon since silver when i was a lad. battles are very distinct from other entries and starting with espeioon/umbreon is awesomeim talking about colloseumfeels like an rpg like final fantasy and grandia more than pokemon
Played colosseum, it was fun, having a limited selection of pokemon was really interesting.Also early misdreavus.
>>719346413Colosseum yesXD no
>>719346413>XDGo backYes
>it's a "we pretend colosseum wasn't a steamy pile of dog shit" threadAlright, then
>>719354765Either both games are shit or good, they are too similar.
>>719346413Colosseum is the only official pokemon game is difficulty because it was developed with older teens that grew up with RBY games in mind. It's a bit restrictive but that's part of the charm. There's a mod for the game had improves QoL while offering better balance and smooths out the random spikes in difficulty from the original.Gale of Darkness ECKS DEE returns to baby mode both in difficulty and tone. The pokemon company had more involvement in its production and it shows.
>>719355892This. That's part of the charm and should be appealing for anyone who enjoys the mechanic of Pokemon. It's also kind of refreshing because you can tell they didn't really "get" Pokemon as it is now
>>719354526he should have mating pressed her right then and there
>>719346601>This game never fucking endsWhat do you mean? Are you saying it drags for too long?>>719346413I would unironically rather play a 3D Pokémon like Colosseum or Gale of Darkness over whatever the fuck Pokémon has become with Scarlet and Violet.
great soundtracks, fun region, memorable charactersabsolutely fucking dogshit gameplay, slow as molasses, everyone who moans about the 3d mainline games having shitty animations need to be ludovico techniqued while playing these games to understand how fucking bad pokemon feels when every animation is a 30 second long spectacle
>>719346716https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzaxlVjWqCw
>>719346413It's basically the greatest game ever made and it's hard to fully put into words why.Ore is the best region ever explored in Pokemon, and aesthetically one of the best game worlds ever created.
>A Pokemon game where you're limited to like 30 Pokemon, the majority of which are incredibly weak compared to the starters and legendaries>Gameplay mechanics encourage you to have one or two Pokemon that do the heavy lifting and then your shadow shitters who rotate in and out to be purifiedThey kinda suck.
>>719347962When did you last play it? I think the restrictive gameplay added to the difficulty which is what I liked. It forced me to use Pokémon I likely never would have looked twice at and some of the Pokémon in the game I had better outlook of because of the game.
>>719357149https://www.serebii.net/colosseum/pokemon.shtmlI count 27 good mons, the rest range from mediocre to trash, or postgame only. More than enough to make a good team out of.
>>719346413The music is really great imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TR8wC59Y1w
>>719346413They have some good ideas and are worth experiencing for a Pokemon fan, but they're a little overrated. You kind of look like a clown when you sing praises for Colosseum and look down on Gens 6+ Pokemon when Colosseum has worse pacing issues with the 3D and an extremely tiny roster of playable Pokemon.
>>719347842Yes, atmosphere and scope were peak and the battles in the more recent Pokémon games have still yet to match the scope of Colosseum, Gale of Darkness, or Battle Revolution sadly.
>>719354765Every game has its fanbase. Somewhere out there someone enjoyed the E.T. game that was literally buried in a ditch.
>>719346413They're unironically worse than recent Pokemon games. Maybe with the exception of SV on Switch.
>>719346413>somehow, throughout the 15+ years ive been on /v/, the "XD" meme stood the test of timeanyways, theyre fucking great.
>>719357045I need more details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLmYUm-Ruw
honestly trying to replay the original games is kind of a slogcome home, pokeman
Not as good as Pokemon Channel but still ok.
They're pretty decent for a first attempt at a 3D Pokemon adventure, but there's definitely some issues>battle animations are slow as FUCK>very small pool of available pokemon, and most of them are gen 2 shitters>the level curve is kinda fucked as you match the opponents for most of the game, then the final battle is suddenly 10+ levels above youThe game's actually decently difficult, especially compared to other Pokemon games, due to the limited Pokemon pool and that it's double battles only. The AI also does try some of the double-specific strats (like Earthquake + Protect), so you can't mindlessly mash as much as the regular games.Overall I think it's definitely worth playing.
>>719357890Shill it to me at least a little. At least it fixed the title.
>>719346413yeah they're fun, maybe try one of the mods if you're more used to modern pokemon.also definitely play it on a handheld.
>>719347193They literally kill thousands of people on a cruise ship in the opening. It's still edgy. You're just playing as a kid who views the world more innocently.
>>719358001>better and bigger mon pool>better and bigger move pool>mechanics up to gen 7 (might be 8 but its at least 7)>harder than vanilla but not bullshit >shiny locks removed
>>719358101>killIsn't it literally the pokemon that get shadowed?
>>719346413I only ever played the minigames in these so idk, those were pretty fun but i was also an autistic 5 year old so any game was fun
>>719358191the people on the cruiser are never seen again with 2 of them being in the middle of the ocean with no hope for rescue.
>>719358204>colosseumDidnt see that, thought it was stadium idk never played these ones
>>719358275they're cool. they have a story mode with terrorism
>>719358243These are the only two people on the ship and it's logical to assume that people working on a ship own water pokemon in case of emergency.
>>719358378is there any proof there's only 2 people on a massive cruise ship filled with pokemon?
>>719358405Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
>>719358576That only works if there's another valid explanation. Learn your fallacies.
>>719358378furthermore, humans in pokemon are pretty damn resilient
>>719356425Not him but yeah, there's a point in Colosseum where it seems that by all means you're almost done with the game, the big bad is on his knees, and then the game goes "lol no" and actually you're only halfway through and every trainer in the game down to Dustman Dave in Rusty Taint Town gets a huge power upgrade so you better go back to the Battle Tower- er, Mt. Battle- and grind your shitmons' levels some more and FUCK you if you already tried it once, do it again.It's a shame because style wise, Colosseum is cool as fuck. They just somehow doubled down (heh) on the autism from perfectionist handheld battles instead of taking advantage of a home console.
>>719358629Assuming there are other people. You said they are dead because they are never seen again which is an absurd conclusion to make without evidence.
>>719358138Did they make it so you can skip battle animations?If no, I am not playing it.
>>719358708Colosseum doesn't require any grinding if you do what the game expects you to do which is use like Suicune Espeon and Typhlosion and then just rotate shadow shitters in your other 3 spots to purify them. It's just people like to fight the games and play wrong.
>>719354765Outside the gamespeed everything about it is subjective to what a person wants from pokemon.
>>719346413yeah they're fantastic games. the small and shit selection makes you appreciate the little guys in the team, and you'll absolutely appreciate when you get a heavy hitter. fighting animations are the best they've looked for the franchise and it definitely is a fight heavy game, which I love because I hate collecting.
>>719346413I have to recommend you challenge yourself.Do not use starters, do not use legendaries.The game's terribly imbalanced and you'll crush it otherwise.
>>719359185Challenge runs of Pokemon just always end in the conclusion that it's impossible to make Pokemon challenging.
>>719346413Presuming you enjoy actual JRPGs and not just Pokemon then yes. Though you'll probably want to play via Dolphin as the animations can get a bit tedious once you hit late game. It's made by Genius Sonority who are essentially DQ alumni rather than GF so it's a bit harder than the usual Pokemon games. >>719346601>Plus without wild pokemon battles there's no way to grindActually there's tons of repeatable battles. The Battle Circle in Pyrite as well as the NPCs in the Pyrite Cipher building and Cave can be rebattled and their teams levels increase based on your progression.>>719358708Literal skill issue, git gud.Also what you described doesn't happen. You only face Evice once and once he's beaten that's it. Same with Nascour, there's no part of the game where you seemingly beat the big bad only for them to return, unless you're confusing Gonzap or one of the Cipher Admins as the main villain and didn't actually finish the game.
>>719359345Maybe.But in colosseum specifically you can:>get totodile early >its surf alone will win you nearly the entire game, any other partner for cleanup>get to entei (which you're hitting super effectively with surf)>entei obviously could win you the rest of the game>grab raikou, same deal>grab suicune>suicune and raikou are a fully functioning rain team who hit both opponents with every attack>you are now literally invincibleWhereas if you do a hitmontop and swinub run the game's genuinely fun.But the above is so obvious and absolutely annihilates any attempt at difficulty.
They're a novelty, and being completely honest, a lot of people view them with rose tinted glasses. But they're neat for the novelty.The biggest positive is the double battles. Definitely should be a standard for the series, it adds way more variety than singles, and makes mechanics more relevant in general.That said it's honestly not a well designed RPG. The locations are extremely limited so you spend a lot of time in one place going back and forth, and dungeons are straight lines with battles every few feet.tl;dr battles are more engaging but the actual world and your interactions with it are a slog.
The GC and Wii games are an ABSOLUTE downgrade compared to the N64 ones. Why would they let some random literally-who like Genius Sonority in charge of home console games of such a popular franchise is beyond me...
>>719359664>bro the game is super easy if you know this speedrun tranny strategy
I WANT A WILD WEST POKEMON RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's weird how XD forced outrage meme spam managed to outlive many other things on the internet.
>>719359831Lol?I did that when I was like 8.It's incredibly obvious because totodile comes with fucking surf, and the others are legendaries.
>>719359831The game naturally pushes you toward using the Johto starters and legendary hamsters, you don't have to look at speedruns or even use the rain strategy he's talking about to figure out the effective way to play.
>>719360012>Bunnygirl HaruhiShe killed billions of my brave soldiers, that harlot...
>>719359968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTRVmAHYcI
>>719359831>totodile comes with surf>raikou comes with thunder>suicune comes with surf and rain danceYeah, wow. So hard to figure out.
I wonder why no one talks about the sequel at all if it's supposedly a better game. 90% of the thread is Colosseum.
>>719359831>he never reset to catch the legendaries>he never used the legends if he caught themnigger it's incredibly early game tooYou get put up against this big ass nigga with crazy fire hair, and for his last pokemon you see him throw out a FUCKING ENTEI. E to the fucking I, ENTEI.Are you telling me that you are lacking enough in testosterone that you DON'T want to snag that thing right away?
>>719359345i don't think you've played or even watched nuzlockes where you have to plan each fight before it even starts
>>719360195I was in the age group where I aged out of Pokemon after Colosseum and didn't get back into it until XY came out so I've never played the sequel xD
>>719360195The meme nuked the game so hard no one even bothers discussing it anymore.
>>719359831anon... surf in Gen 3 was genuinely insane, not harming your teammate. for a game full of double battles I wouldn't even call it an obscure strat and just straight up call it the meta.
I remember how much I hated this game. I only kept playing it to unlock the pokemon transfer. And shit was so worth it. Got Feraligatr into my Pokemon Smaragd, grinded it up to level 100. Still by far the best Pokemon I ever had in my life. Colosseum is a total trash game but the struggle gave me a wonderful Pokemon experience still. This is what modern Pokemon lacks. Some pain and struggle to give things some meaning and attachment.
>>719360268Either that or grind and sweep the game like an 8 year old. Nice "challenge" (autism).I never liked the spirit of it anyways. Feeling like you're staking your pokemon themselves in each battle, risking their death, just goes against the spirit of the series. Your mons are supposed to be your pals. They shouldn't have to die on you.>b-but it's supposed to make you more attachedIf you can't feel attached to your pokebros without risking their very lives, then you're some kinda psycho, man.
>>719360195More people played Colosseum and most of Gale of Darkness' improvements are pretty much just addressing the issues with Colosseum. Otherwise it's extremely similar with a lot of reused locations.
I wish they kept going with the gamecube era strategy of making spin-off Pokemon games that you could get Pokemon from in your main game. This shit is so much better than Pokemon events and all that garbage.
>>719360524>pokemon can't be challenging!>uhm no that's the wrong kind of challenge!Anyway, there's tons of non-nuzlocke romhacks that un-nerf the AI, let them use decent items, give them synergy teams and so on.
>>719360473>into my Pokemon SmaragdLmao smaragd shittersPokemon Hurdsogs was so much better.
>>719360602they only did this because there wasn't a gen 2 remake until gen 4
>>719360682Pokemon Channel had Jirachi as an exclusive for a long time.
>>719358825just use emulator speedup faggot its a romhackthere are other mods for that
>>719360756jirachi is from gen 3also that's australia only
>>719360624Imagine being so brainrotted by this site that you type out a self-contradictory strawman in two lines. Do you even know what you mean?
>>719360640Are you joking?Okay sure, the hursgods exclusive Pokémon might have been better on your average route, but the box legendary smaragdon is blatantly overpowered. That shit crushes ubers like it's nothing.
>>719360808that's a strawman too isn't it?
>tfw basically zero chance that the upcoming Switch 2 versions of Colo and GoD have transfer like the 3DS of RBY/GSC hadDamn shame because it'd be rad if they did. I'll still replay them for sure though.
>>719360808none of what i said is self-contradictory.You have multiple ways to have a challenging pokemon experience (starting with turning on set-mode instead of shift, which i'm guessing you never do).You're arbitrarily disqualifying one way because it's "not the spirit of pokemon".But that's not an argument, it's just a subjective tantrum.
>>719360879Please look somewhere else for the attention your father never gave you.
>>719360818Yeah, its so overpowered it was banned in every format.Anrhgisdh is just an overpowered paper weight.
>>719360195Because barely anyone played it.2 is better and worse in ways, and is basically 1.5 like the other anon said.More locations (some returning), more pokemon, better battles, but you have goofy digimon kid protags now, which are downgrades from 1, and the main limited-"wild" pokemon gimmick is more annoying than anything, because they're time-gated, so you could be deep in a dungeon, get the ping, and now you're racing out to get there in time.
>>719350916Imagine being a kid at the time, and finally they're making an actual Pokémon game on console. Not thay stadium bullshit, but an actual game with an adventure mode and shit.Haha psych! Fuck you, asshole! You cant catch any pokemon and it's only towns and it's just double battles. Words can't express the disappointment.
>>719360901Why would it not have Home Compatibility? There's no reason it wouldn't.
>>719360937I went to my father almost every weekend for a couple of months (parents divorced) but I stopped going because one day we were out for hours in the freezing cold for no reason but him being able to drink outside with his buddy. Then he kept calling but I told him to fuck off.So really, he was craving my attention if anything.
>>719361019But it DOES counter Angarhferrwareguhnarbuh very effectively.
>>719360936>>pokemon can't be challenging!First line implies I said any of this, anywhere.>>uhm no that's the wrong kind of challenge!Second line implies I did, nevermind that you disagree with yourself. Nuzlocke isn't a challenge.Faggot goalpost shift incoming.>>719361173Good to know, entirely expected, did not read.
>>719361158being able to steal pokemon was a dream though, it's what everyone playing the handheld games always wanted to do.They just made the de-shadow grind too steep.
The protagonist from 1 looks like a giga fag but no one can deny the bike + espeon umbreon combo was rad as hell.
>>719361240>First line implies I said any of this, anywhere.You did? >>719359345>Challenge runs of Pokemon just always end in the conclusion that it's impossible to make Pokemon challenging.>that it's impossible to make Pokemon challenging.
>>719361343Meds.
>>719361375>t-that wasn't meok retard, then don't jump into reply chains that don't involve you
>>719360235>E to the fucking I, ENTEI.EIENTEI?
>>719361532Are you going to cry about it?
a shame poketroons retards let them flop, they deserve garbage games for their dogshit tastes, thye prefer buy d/p and emerald slop
>>719346413Not really. They have a novelty but they're extremely barebones games even compared to the mainline series.
>>719361704>let them flop1 is literally a top 10 selling gameand 2 sold better than pikmin 2
>>719361704>what if DP but even slower, less pokemon, and no wild battlesHeckin kino! I love Colosseum!
>>719361704lol the novelty of the battle frontier and playing wifi for the first time is better than catching some johto shitmons for my gen 3 dex
>>719361959Damn gamecube was an incredible failure. This list is very similar to Wii U top 20.
GLOOPIE IS BEST PAL!
>>719362253gamecube is one of the most memorable consoles actually.melee has its own sub-genre of clones too.
BEHOLD! ANOTHER AMAZING PAL!
YOU GUYS SHOULD PLAY A GOOD GAME FOR ONCE! LIKE THIS ONE.
>>719362392>b-but it's memorableDoesn't change that it's a failure and has barely any games worth playing.
>>719346413>Groudon and Kyogre on the cover>not available to catch at all>most of what you can catch are Gen 2 shitmons a.k.a. Gen 2 pokemonI have a lot of nostalgia for the game and I remember as a kid having the patience to sit through those long, slow battles and doing the 100 trainer challenge, but there's a lot more bad than good in this game.I do at least like they had the balls to try something new both mechanically and tonally relatively early into the franchise and the music is top tier, but gameplay wise it falls apart the longer you play it.Rui a cute too
>>719362616>barely any gameshow many is "barely" to you?
>>719362473I'll play it when it's out of early access, NIGGER
>Gale of Darkness' loose ends never got resolved
>>719357851Seeing the cover art after childhood and not thinking about it for the better part of a decade, it really is kinda funny>WHOOOOOAAH LEGENDARIES!!>HURRRRR U GET DESE ONES IF U BUY DA GAMEwere groudon or kyogre even in this one?
>>719363332They can't be caught at all and they only appear at the very end of Mt. Battle in one of the trainer battlesWhat a waste
>>719358861Found him >>719359185
>>719363332The only places you see them in the game are Mt. Battle and the Orre Colosseum.
XD
>>719361959I see why it’s known as the Nintendo Shitcube now wow
>>719346413This and Gale of Darkness have some of my favorite music in the franchise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWXCbLF6y9w
If you're not going to get absolutely sick from watching the games long ass animations for every little action 5 hours into the game, you'll like it. I dont care what nostalgia glasses everyone is wearing, the game is excruciating to go thru because of this and battles take up to 15+ minutes because of constant animations and pauses, especially the shadow animations, and then they really had the thought of "lets not put in an optional animation skip like the mainlines."
>>719346413>Is this and the sequel I won't name to save us from reddit humor worth playing?no
>>719364063>"lets not put in an optional animation skip like the mainlines."You couldn't skip animations in mainline pokemon either hell the new games don't even allow it
>>719363806they have some of the best music on the console
Pokemon Grand Colosseum is a good romhack>better pool of obtainable shadow pokemon>Modern gen mechanics like phys/special split, fairy typing>removal of trash moves like scratch/pound to introduce moves from later titles>base stat buffs for a lot of shitters specifically Gen 2 mons>can save, heal, access the pokebox from anywhere in the game>options to disable items and enforce nuzlock rules>TM reshuffled, removed trash moves, and made them infinite useLategame is kind of bullshit and requires specific teams to counter your opponent. I like to play with favorites and sometimes it's not possible to do that.
>>719364361colosseum actually tried to have challenging battles/bosses
>>719364949>fairy shit>global pc access>nu-mon variantsreally cringe, but im glad it gets romhacks atleast
Both these games had Fighting Baseball tier names for the trainers.
>>719365810so did gen 7
>>719366274For me it's Nascour.
Don't forget to undo lolcaliz
>>719366760X items trivialized a lot of the challenge.
>>719369398link?
>the developers didn't even know what Pokemon's combat even was>Shadow Pokemon are a really interesting risk vs reward take on the obedience system>had interesting team composition for opposing trainers, they couldn't even manage this when they pushed out a DLC for the mainline games that focused entirely on doublesand this is just the first game, don't even need to mention that GoD was nothing but an improvement
>>719369691should be colosseum restoration on you're favorite romhacks page
>>719346413This game was the bomb.I wish there's a new Shadow Pokemon game.
>>719346413Colosseum is not a good game and it aged like shit. I played it recently and the battle system as a whole is sluggish, and most of the game is a bunch of corridors full of trainers you go through, and im talking a trainer every 8 steps of the way. The story isnt that interesting either, they never really elaborate as to why Wes betrays team Snagem either, it makes you wonder what the point of revisiting that area really was.I give it credit for the music and the fancy animations even if they drag the game down in speed hard. The villains are a complete and utter joke, what was the point of all those Shadow Pokemon? They wanted to sell them to make money and take over the world, even though their leader is the fucking president? You built that whole colosseum and youre telling me you dont have the money to conquer the world get the fuck out of here.Genuinely insane how much people hyped this game up for nothing, its number one quality is being as short as it is because I cant imagine playing a full pledged Pokemon game at this speed.
>>719370874>and most of the game is a bunch of corridors full of trainers you go through,anon that's a core staple of pokemon lol
>>719359664You dont need that much, I ran Espeon and Quagsire and I beat the entire game and Mt Battle with these two, especially when I got Ice Beam to cover for Quagsire's weakness and gave it Quick Claw things really sped up from there, I used only Entei as a legend because I needed to cover from time to time when Cacturne or Glalie showed up
>>719369582not being a retard trivializes all of the challenge in colosseum
>>719369582NTA but>saying this while ignoring the game that lets you spam glitch several X items in one turn
>>719371085>anon that's a core staple of pokemon lolIts different. Colosseum doesnt have wild encounters, so the trainers are not spaced out, there's times where you just go through corridors of trainer after trainer just a few steps of distance. It was then that I realized, im literally just playing Pokemon Battle Revolution but with parts where I can walk. Thats literally what Colosseum is.
>>719369852>the developers didn't even know what Pokemon's combat even wasHow does this happen
>>719373403>How does this happenBy actually being into good JRPGs.
>>719346601>Plus without wild pokemon battles there's no way to grind except losing at the same battles over and over again until you have enough exp and then win.You are either lying or extremely rerarded
>>7193464134chan thinks my post is automated spam so tl;dr is yeah if you like the gimmicks
>>719357890I mostly liked it, but being hard enough that 1-2 mons are going down every battle can make progress a real slog
>>719346413its fucking FUN
is pikachu better than agumon?
