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>the most he talks is some autistic rant about a gun
Why did people give Venom so much shit? At least he took things seriously instead of quipping and flirting.
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>>719352184
I can only think it has to be because of nostalgia
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>>719352261
GenZ cringe fags hate fun and games.
This is why you have zero game.
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V had the best dialogue writing in the series and people bitched about it.
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>>719352503
Venom delivered his lines with such conviction and effortless coolness. Imagining Hayter trying to do the same made me glad that he was recast.

>Either way one of these days we're gonna have to kill her. But now is not the time. When the time comes I'll pull the trigger.
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>>719352184
>Face capture actor for the remake being a performative fuck called Hayter the real solid snake
>Everyone is clapping
I hope they do MGS 6 and bring back Hayter just so they could hear the most phoned in performance in the history of video games
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>>719352813
>barely says a word
>the few lines he got are missaligned and weirdly directed
>"effortless coolness"

Hayter's delivery was better, and PW's final speech still sends shivers up my spine to this day. Peace Walker in general was the vastly superior MGS5 game.
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>>719352813
Keifer sounds drunk for most of his lines, just a lot of slurring and words running together with 0 enunciation
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>>719353034
Knowing what a tryhard dweeb Hayter is IRL diminishes the effect of Snake's coolness. Keifer not even giving a shit about the role makes him come off more natural.
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>>719352813
which one of the 3 three lines?
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>>719352813
Kiefer sounded like he had no idea who Venom even was, he's supposed to be silent and stoic, yet when Venom actually talks (THAT FREAKSHOW BACK THERE) he just sounds like Big Boss but with most of his lines cut.
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>>719352813
>boss
>*gigantic speech about everyone infected*
>"...you never know"
he had like 4 lines, and 3 were randomly dropped into the game.
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kief had more lines in that call of duty game than mgsv. severly underutilized. I love kief and I wish he was in more games.
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>>719353661
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>>719353782
did you guys not play mgsv? that game has more dialogue then all other metal gears
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>this is bad voice acting according to /v/

https://youtu.be/c9YYZZ3nvhM
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>>719352813
Snake in phantom pain might as well be a modded in character(he basically is). Had none of the personality that made snake likeable in the first place and was just some gruff army guy
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>>719355289
That man needs a nap.
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>>719352184
Because it kinda fucks with the legitimacy of the story/franchise and how the main character sounds?
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>>719354346
robin atkin downes and troy baker spoke more than kiefer sutherland did
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>>719352184
gen z really loves their self-insert characters huh?
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>>719355830
the boss and zero speak more than snake in mgs3 also what's your point?
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>brainwashing some guy makes him a super stealth fighterman like snake
so uh, why not just brainwash tens of thousands of people to be like snake
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>>719354346
Yeah and snake is like 2 lines spoken for every 100 times kaz goes on inane rants about muh vengeance.
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>>719356129
That's what MSF was for. Some of the people you could recruit were even stronger than Snake no brainwashing required.
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>>719352184
>Why did people give Venom so much shit? At least he took things seriously instead of quipping and flirting.
Yeah, vidya war autism is serious business in the same way Peter Parker whining about being a poor retard or batman whining about his dead parents again
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>/v/ when a character has various idiosyncrasies that make them more well-rounded and appealing to the audience
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>>719352184
when are the fans going to get real about david hayter having peaked in MGS1 and then he fell off massively. like he's a bigger hack than kojima himself
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>>719352184
I'll be honest, once I unlocked that CaC option for Venom once you beat the game, I just played as medic and it didn't feel weird at all because it never really felt like I was playing snake to begin with
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>>719356523
At leas kojima's hack characters are characters. Which is more than can be said the juvenile and stunted characters in all super hero shit.
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>>719352184
>At least he took things seriously instead of quipping and flirting
That embarrassing water splashing scene with Quiet that makes both of them look autistic
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>I like gorgonzola anyway
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>>719353034
lmao. that's just funny, man. knowing that someone can hear Hayter's later performances and do anything but fucking laugh.
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>>719357424
They were actually in love though not just fooling around
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I think the real humor is that kids are just now realizing that asking questions to clarify or recontextualize information is a basic tool of conversation. Do they just talk at people like a wall and never ask questions to the other party?
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>>719358056
>>719358056
Of course not. Kids nowadays only give canned responses consisting of memes or ebonics
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>>719352184
he talks all the time, finish the game you retard https://youtu.be/c8Erw93sXPE
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>>719358701
The reason people dislike MGS3 is because they didn't even play it. You have to engage in the codec calls, hunt all the animals, eat all the animals, learn about all the weapons, etc.
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>>719352813
>Venom delivered his lines with such conviction and effortless coolness.
>she shurfife?
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>>719358056
Everyone's autistic now unironically
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>>719358889
His lines in GZ are a bit weird for some reason but much better in TPP
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>>719358801
>The reason people dislike MGS3 is because they didn't even play it.
Understandable, MGS3 is a slog until The Pain.
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>>719355453
big bimblo, the lovable mercenarino
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Solid Snake was cooler.
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>>719353034
>dubbed slice of life anime
>sends shivers up my spine
sad
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>>719353183
Yeah he doesn't sound autistic
https://youtu.be/k8e9K__M-HI?t=90
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>>719359386
The Room tier performance
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>>719357424
MGSV is 100% better if you kill quiet
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>>719352184
zoomers don't know that metal gear is supposed to be the video game equivalent cheesy action movies at the end of the day at least the good ones. Snake says one liners, flirts with the ladies, and spews some life advice from time to time. He's not supposed to be a quiet edgelord
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>>719360315
>it's shit on purpose
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>>719360315
>t. millennial who got into series with 3
Metal Gear used to have heart
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Every character in Metal Gear Solid has autism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWc2qS4tDPU
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>>719360817
Not sure if you're disagreeing with me but MGS1 is very much a cheesy action movie down to the ending where they ride off into the sunset
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>>719358801
>You have to engage in the codec calls
Anon please. Sitting through what, an hour, two of shitty dialogues isn't engaging.
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>>719361359
but he'd shit of 4 for having movie length cinematics
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>>719361029
welll duh 1 is just every 80s action movie kojima ripped off
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>>719361029
compare that to gay nigger spy flick that is mgs3 and it's high art
kojima is a hack
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>>719352503
She surfife
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>>719361938
call me... deepthroat
deepthroat?
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>>719356129
>genome soldier project, les enfant terribles project
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>>719362050
the one from the gamergate scandal :)
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>>719352261
>>719352503
>>719352813
All me btw
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>>719352503
It had so little memorable dialogue that all of it became a meme in some way due to being cringe
>Wolbachia... Malle...to female
>WHOOOO
>I'm already a demon
>Entire jeep monologue
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>>719362329
MGSV has extremely memorable dialogue because every word spoken is something important to the story and all the time wasting shit was put in tapes, but even there are some gems like the Paz tapes. Take Kaz for example.

>Like our lost limbs, the sensation lingers. We hold our rifles in missing hands. We stand tall on missing legs. We stride forward on the bones of our fallen. Then, and only then, are we alive. This "Pain" is ours and no one else's. A secret weapon we wield, out of sight. We will be stronger than ever. For our peace...
>Yeah, we were dogs, alright. Slinking around out of Cipher’s sight. Picking up whatever kind of dirty money we could find. You name it, we did it… You see this? Diamond Dogs… Our new home. A phantom of our former selves… Triumph, death… We weren’t allowed either. Yeah, I remember it all.
>No... Big Boss can go to hell. I'll make the phantom and his sons stronger, to send him there. For that... I'll keep playing my role.
>Think of all the men... He didn't lose a damned thing. This is the enemy, and he's here - on his knees...!
>Son of a bitch'll make it, you know. I can see it now. In no time he'll be telling tales about the black-hearted Diamond Dogs. The shining white knight. Blabbering on about our injustice, hiding behind his fool's idea of morality... And all the other fools will stand around, nodding with every word he says.
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>>719362626
>>719362626
no its not
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>>719362626
Kaz is autistic as fuck and a turbo chuuni.
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>>719360315
I'd argue campy James Bond drama/thriller moreso than action movie, but yes, the games couldn't be more campy and ridiculous if they tried.
Well, actually, I guess Twin Sneks shows that they could just go full retard.
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>>719352813
The only real excuse for it not being hayter is that venom isn't actually big boss
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>>719352184
Only the solid snake arc matters. Everything else is just pure cringe
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>>719362329
The only part that became a meme was "Why are we still here" and it's a great monologue.
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i dont get why people defend hayter so fucking hard, its not like he was cooked
if there was ever going to be another metal gear solid game hayter would have been been back in
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>>719362626
Kaz is literal schizo paranoia incarnate after what happened to MSF. Those are all the ramblings of a mad man. You can really tell he lost it compared to Peace Walker when he was the voice of reason in a battle of ideals. After replaying MGSV last year for the first time since release it's clear that Kaz is the most insane person in all of mother base and it's not even close.
Somehow the takeaway he got from the inspection going wrong was that no one ever could be trusted not even big boss. So literally everyone involved should be drugged/tortured into obedience or just straight up killed.
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>>719352421
Minto my beloved metal gear fujoshi
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>>719361938
it's just like one of my Japanese anime
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>>719352503
The best dialogue writing?
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>>719352503
Nobody fucking talks in that game, there's no codec and shit. Ocelot and Miller talk the most is during a mission and they just say the same shit over and over again.
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>>719369247
There's more talking than in any other game, they just did the smart thing and made listening to it optional.
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>>719360817
>Metal Gear used to have heart



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