for retards, by retards
>>719353381It's boring and too easy. Grim Dawn beats it in every regard except volume of content.
t. diablo2tard (((((bwo i wuv hoarding health and mana potions and go on expeditions))))
>>719353381I'm at work how's the new update?
it's bad, i regret having wasted 100gb for this
>>719353482is it even out yet lol?even if it were, its GGG, the servers won't be functional for days.
I've spent the last 2 and a half hours troubleshooting my PC waiting to play. :^)
>Try out spear for first time>CLearfell>See dumb witch monster>Use whirlwind>Animation is so long it has time to cast the aoe explosion on me>DieWhen will GGG understand that Melee is already more at risk, animation locks are awful.
I gave it a good 2 hrs but I'm not feeling it. I picked monk thinking I was gonna get ebin synergy but all the quarterstaff skill suck dicks.Animation too long, couldn't generate power charge on boss fights to do actual damage.I don't like rollslop design for bosses. It's just boring.
>>719356041they have zero recompense for melee's many weaknesses in ARPG's.but they heavily enforce said weaknesses and drawbacks, but yea the caster WILL out nuke and out DPS the melee, completely on purpose from them.
it's still shitbought the new Harvest Moon Seasons Story whatever the fuck would rather
How's Wolcen?
>>719356935shit
>>719353381not gonna buy d4 anywaykeep baiting other, way better games to fight each other faggot
is this the kind of coop game you want to play through together or can I just casually play without worrying about over progressing?
>Need to parry to build Frenzy charges>Attempt to parry an attack>Get stunlocked to death
>get surrounded by 200mph shitmons>roll doesn't let me go through ennemies>i've go nothing to jump over/dash through or aoe stun in a 360 degree arcI didn't remember having this problem in 2014
>>719357829>>719357903Works on my machine (Warrior)
>>719358086yeah I don't want to "relearn" a gamein poe1 I'd have flame dash or leap slam on LMB and never have an issue
>>719358210>Nooooo I have to play something other than a slot machineThere's nothing to learn, it's easy to oredict and fish parries and dodging through mobs work unless you expect to just dash through EVERYTHING
>do nothing but try to appease casuals>everyone who actually likes poe gets pissed and bails>now the only people left are people too stupid to play it anyways and they just want an offline loot treadmillThey should have listened to Chris unironically
So when does Tencent step in and can Troonathan? This can’t continue on until 1.0
>>719358802>do nothing but try to appease casualsthey did they opposite though Retardbro not a single casual is playing this slogfest, especially when there was no early tree for them to get build guides from
I'm going to try this instead of PoE 2. Just picked up some at H Mart. I generally like Buldak flavors, but this one just seems sketchy.It's probably going to be gross.
>>719359119>>>/vg/
>>719359040>they did they opposite though RetardbroWhy did they add async trade, crank up drop rates, and nerf endgame into oblivion then
>>719359265no casual is getting to endgameno casual is going to play long enough for drop rates to matterall the casuals know is:>game still slow>game still boring>sprint is AIDS and clunky with its tank controls>no new class>everything nerfedplayer numbers DROPPED to below 300k as people got off of work on a free weekend instead of going upit's overyou're over
>>719359252lol pretend janny, you can suck my dick. Impotent faggot You can't do SHIT
>>719353381only streamerfags and their ill begotten ilk care about this shit
>>719359391who were the changes for then? because it's not interesting to me any more. I'm not ever going to play it or poe1 again.
>>719359615>who were the changes for thenJonathan
>Advertise asynchronous trade>Advertise being able to upgrade premium sales tabs to merchant tabs>Show the UI for upgrading inside the ad>Day of release no one can upgrade>Add a line of text saying, BTW, only premium tabs purchased for full price are eligible for upgrade
if the anon is here from last thread that picked javazon from my stupid list - good fucking job. this is easily the best feeling character i've played and thats only finishing act 1. i played a sorc in .1 and witch in .2 to maps before and they both felt like complete shit.if amazon lighting spear is the intended VISION for all builds, then the game will be good. i hope the other specs and skills are feeling good rn or intended to get to this kind of feel soon.
>>719359391none of those points matter to casuals anon. most casuals just play for fun and then stop playing to play something else, they don't care about anything other than that. at most they'll play through whatever campaign content there is and then move on
>>719359429...The joke was that I also had both threads open, you schizophrenic mouthbreather.
Is the isometric ARPG genre doomed to be POE1 forever?
>>719360052share the list?
>>719359887>>Day of release no one can upgradeI already upgraded 2, what are you talking about?
>friend hypes this up to high heaven saying that they've listened to people and 110% fixed it>it's still the same shittiresome, I need new friends
>>719360052Not him, but my one complaint about Thunder Spear last patch was that it falls off hard in Act 2 and then becomes insane in Act 3 when you get T2 Supports.
>parryslop
>>719359615no one, GGG completely fucked themselvesthey pulled the A-team off PoE1 to make this garbage until people started bitching and now they moved them back to PoE1 to try to appease them and both games are fucked
>>719353381All arpgs are for retards
I really want to play Ritualist so I can use that "give yourself monster modifiers" skill, is it usable or shit? The build planners seem broken I was looking for skill effect duration and synergies with that is it even in the passive tree?
>>719360680the joke was that you can't readdipshit
>>719361014>He's pulling out the A-team argumentLol
>>719353458Please post endgame HC char
>>719359040lmao imagine coping this hard
>>719361129>Devs litereally say that their "A-team" are the only ones that can balance the skills in both PoE1 and 2.>Lead dev says he tried it, but can't even begin to understand how they do it.HURR DURR THERE'S NO A-team
>>719360887it wasn't anything detailed like actual builds, it was just the random things i felt like maybe playinghttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719308691/#q719341203
Have they improved the anti-aliasing? I do not have a Nvidia GPU and I found all the anti-aliasing methods to be very blurry with lots of artifacting. I used to play on my 4k tv and it never bothered me but I moved my PC to a desk and now have a 1440p display
>Demon form doesn't lock you out of weapons anymoreOh shit. Is demon form minion build viable now?
>>719361963It also doesn't have a shitload of +levels.
>Specters just stop working in act 4 and the interludes because none of the new enemies can be turned into spectersThank you GGG, very cool.
if you dont play hardcore solo self found you're not playing the real game
Why are these two different items when it's just a recolor?Why does one cost more?
>>719362563>Why are these two different itemsBecause it's a different color.>Why does one cost moreBecause GGG arbitrarily values it higher. Why? Because they can.
>>719362663Does the game not have a dye system or something?
>>719362739Of course not, lmao.
>>719361963>minion build viablepfft yea right
>>719362761Damn bro, really like we're in 2014 over here.
>>719362863>2014Even further back.GGG hasn't innovated in a good bit over a decade.
>Scrolls of WisdomGet rid of this ass mechanic, I doesn’t even make thematic sense. >pick up armor>what is this>need a consumable item to see the itemI get it man. You really like Diablo II.
>>719364748I like selling unidentified uniques, especially ones from pinnacle bosses etc. Instead of gambling on the value myself I'll just take a consistent but lower profit and let others gamble on the rolls.
>>719364748It's not even necessary in PoE2, an NPC will ID it for you.
>Get to Ogham Village>Failed to connect to instance>Make a new instance>Failed...Well, guess I'm not allowed to play anymore.
>Try a minion build>Feels like shitAdd another one to the listMonk seems fun at least even if it is a staffag instead of a punchy monk.
>>719354989I started playing 1h40min after the patch dropped and there was no queue at all and north EU servers lag-free
>>719365332I think that’s still just as bad.
>>719356450The rollslop in bossfights remains the same throughout the campaign and in the endgame just the same, it ends being a dodgeroll game only after you get end-endgame dps so that the bosses die in under 10 seconds
So how is Blood Mage these days?I played Corpse Explode a while back and even managed to get all the way up to Xesht, the 4 times power variant one, forgot what it was called. And managed to kill him.I loved how every time you'd Corpse Explode something the Witch would say;>BOOM! Hahaha
How the hell do you view achievements/challenges in the game?
>>719366068I don't think there are any in PoE2 yet
>>719365694Why does GGG hate minions so much
>>719366898YOU WILL ENGAGE IN OUR ANIMATIONS AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WEIGHT OF COMBATLead Dev is trying to make POE something it isn't.
>>719367023Yeah I'm not taking that BS from a team that allows Righteous Fire to exist at all
>>719366258There are with this league. I've unlocked 2. I want to see a list of them and I can't find it ingame. Yes, I can find the items, but I can't find the actual list of achievements that it says I've unlocked.
>>719367107Is Righteous Fire even any good these days? The main streamer I saw who plays RF every league and even had a full on autistic wiki and even website made for it in POE 1 wasn't even playing RF last league.
>>719367182You mean the traveller stuff you get in Act 1? There's three of those.
>>719366898Very few ARPGs get minions right, it's just a cursed concept.
>>719365694>even if it is a staffag instead of a punchy monk.Didn't this patch make it so you could go punchy monk? They even added animations so the abilities work with it.
Why does this game take up so much fucking space?
>>719366898I don't fucking trust minion fags in PoE, they say this shit CONSTANTLY and then it turns out to be good every single time
>>719368118Oh did they? I haven't been paying attention at all to the early access, so I'm just going off the little research I did before the free weekend.I wonder how viable it is then, I haven't seen anyone talk about it.
I don’t know man. I think at face value, the combat is really interesting. HOWEVER, it’s obviously based on Dark Souls, right?Third person action games have a completely different design skillset for bosses and enemies. Bosses go off screen, no lock on, dealing with enemy mobs keeps you on the back foot constantly. The idea of heavier combat and dodge rolling is good, it’s cute. But you can’t use PoE1 and Diablo II as a basis. This is always the problem with aping on Fromsoftware: those games had decades to build themselves up, and they’re still running into combat issues.
>>719368480>Game has a dodge roll>"It's like Dark Souls, Dark Souls invented the dodge roll"zzzzzzz
Did they fix blood mage so it's not a complete fuck shitshow that punishes you just for picking the spec?
>>719368480The first time I fought Count Geonor on my Warrior, I was honestly impressed at how good it felt. It was an actual unironic good fight ON a Warrior.I did it again on a Witch and stomped him and I didn't even see his whole moveset.And this is the problem with designing the game like this and yet still trying to make it Path of Exile.
>>719368578Come on man.
>>719368454It's very strong, search for Hollow Palm on the passive tree.My dps got a significant boost when I ditched my staff and got the node.Also very simple to build because the Hollow Palm tooltip straight up tells you how to gear to make it work
How is huntress? I haven't played since launch so I never touched her.
>>719365694>Try a minion build>Feels like shitWhen did this happen? Because I remember minion build being op when the game launched.
>>719368480You can't have Dynasty Warriors masses of enemies + Dark Souls combat.Stupid devs need to pick one. Guess which one made PoE 1 popular and fun?
>>719369473It’s a circle. You can’t deal with mobs so you need huge AoE attacks, but then that breaks boss fights. It’s exactly the same problem as souls. As soon as there are 5+ enemies in front of you, well what do you do
>>719369918But PoE2 clearly has both mobbing and single target skills? It's an ARPG it's not Dark Souls and you can use more than one attack.
>>719370229Yeah but the enemy design has more gimmicks. I need to deal with two Eternal Knights, who want back attacks. I’ve got 20 skellyton on screen. And two ranged high health sorcerers. It’s doable, but it doesn’t feel good to do it. Feels like I’m rolling around everywhere and holding down attacks. The game wants precision in some cases and screen clears in others.
Bros, how do I make Rolling Slam faster? This shit is absolutely worthless.
>>719370809...Faster?
>>719370809You can't. It has flat added 1.5sec to attack time and will never get faster than that. Same with Sunder but it's even slower.For some reason GGG made the melee super slow even though they get hit the most, so you just get butchered if you try those slow ass skills in a big monsterpack.
>>719370809If you want to be melee, go Spear.Otherwise, drop it entirely.Also Caster in general is dog shit outside of Chaos and Spark (nerfed)
>>719359265drop rates arent cranked, and no one is in end game to have that opinion lil gup
>>719371259Redpill me on spear, parrying felt like shit from the little I played, is it necessary?
>>719371673>is parrying necessaryNot at all. Also, I should amend my statement. If you want to be melee, just don't play mace. Quarterstaff is also good.Bleed Spear was god tier last league. Don't know if it still is. I think some people are doing Hybrid Spear builds this time, lightning and ice.
>Leveling Thorns Warbringer>Get into Act 2>Get the funny helmet>Go to carve up a Barbs gem>Bars 1 is a level THREE OF FIVE Support Gem now, which means probably late Act 3This is going to be fucking miserable.
>>719371632This, the drops are FUCKED and most chests are just empty.
There’s something wrong with the game. The boss fights are very solid, but there’s just something off about the whole thing, like I can’t get invested into it.
If any bros are struggling because they picked melee and keep dying then you can start over with a real meta build made by someone that's not a shill or a slave to the company:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFeTRWV_2WEThis dude's got sadism and autism and his channel's hilarious when he's making all the redditor normie retards butthurt over his based takes.
>>719372207>over 1 hourI know this is your video anon, so how about you just tell me what it is instead of watching this
>>719369001Depending on how it scales later, I'm tempted to try my conflux/elemental expression/spell monk with it. It's a really cheap passive cost to have something great to get the ball rolling.
>>719372340>He thinks a youtuber with 162,000 subscribers would ever waste time here.
>>719353381I just watched the intro cinematic. Am I supposed to know who these people are, what they are doing, and the significance of it? Do I need to have played all of PoE1 to understand the story here?
>>719372492I know you would.Anyway, give me a summary of your video. I don't have time for that shit.
>>719372659I’m 10 hours in I don’t even know what’s going on. They need to up this story.
>>719354989>>719353482Apparently I'm hearing people are saying it's too easy nowWhat the fuck happened?
>>719372748They're playing witchhunters
POOP2
>made an HC warrior and just beat the miller by slammaramming him>then found some abyssal crack and slammarammed a giant horde of green monstersHow long can I keep this up?
>>719372659There are only a handful of recurring characters, like 2-3, the hooded guy is the only one with real plot relevance. PoE 1 doesn't really have much to do with the plot since the only aspect it actually follows up on, the Beast and the Cataclysm, are explained about as well in this game as they were in the last.
>>719372659It's all explained later after you've forgotten what happened in the intro cinematic. Like all videogame storytelling.
>>719373031foreveror about 90 minutes
In the event any noobs are wondering why they don't have much Gold, despite being told otherwise, pick up everything above Normal, ID at Hooded One, then sell for Gold. You'll get way more and have enough for respeccing.
>feels like you're moving through molasses>attacks slow you down even further>melee feels even worse than in the first game (which had fucking awful melee to begin with)>Enemies have sanic speed so dodging is pointlessYou're being had if you pay money for this.
>>719371097>so you just get butchered if you try those slow ass skills in a big monsterpackYes, the abyssal packs are shredding me. I'm not sure, but I think I might even be getting slowed down by certain enemies during the Rolling Slam animation and what the fuck is up with that?
>>719361148Why does it have to be HC?That's like asking for a pro CS player to never die against non-pro players
hows hollowpalm???
Are there any viable builds like going unarmed melee sorceress
>>719374864Decent enough so far but I'm still expecting a massive drop of later.
>>719353381Yeah its the worst "arpg" ive played. I would rather play diablo 1 for the rest of my life than this hot turd another time. I cant belive i was so hyped for this
>>719353381can warrior swing his hammer while walking yet or is it still a stationary casting class for no fucking reason?
>>719374697Just wait until you get frozen solid midair while doing a leap slam
>>719376054GGG plays ranger only so warrior buffs are never gonna happen
>>719362563Those are old lootbox armors, price is based on the rarity and drop chance from the original lootbox.
>>719376054wait what? warriors can't move and attack? lol I ditched the game on the first week after beating the campaign on HC I had zero fun. was minionsI watched some people play the game and it looks like nothing has changed still the same shit campaign.
>>719376809yeah you are literally planted in place when casting melee skills including the default swing with no range it's such bad game design for something that, conceptually, is fixed so easily
Is it possible to make a dumb facetank melee build and just neanderthal my way through the game without caring about dodging or attack patterns?
>>719378238Depends on how much they nerfed Evasion and Energy Shield.
>>719378238just use a meta build that one shots the boss like everyone else does
>>719372492>youtuber with 162,000 subsDamn, that really is your video.
>>719378238Yes, generally any build that focuses on blue life is facetank tier. Stormweaver is probably the most passive facetanky.
>>719379163You think ecelebs come here?
How to fix Poe 2.Make world smaller. Make encounters use what the player is doing and interact using their moves. Give skill tree to gems Give button press speed to skills Like Diablo 2. Make enemies be able to combat using this style. Give prefixes and affixes to gems.GgsPerfect game
Hahahaha hahahaha poo2 on suicide watch lmaaaaaaao
>>719379624they could just replace whoever on the dev team is obsessed with souls-like garbage that would fix it
Im just not going to parry with Huntress
>>719379898>they lost over half the players in 1 day
How are the new league mechanics?Fun and rewarding?
>>719380346no they just spam you with monsters covered in green that drop nothing
>>719380346Basically nothing
>>719380105I just created her and thought that was a retarded mechanic. Why would I even want to stay in place and wait for an attack in game where you get oneshots all the time?
>>719380346It's abyss, if you liked PoE1 abyss you'll be fine with PoE2 abyss. The two differences is that rather than following the abyss, the abyss pit paths like a blight node. There's a pack at the end of each lane, killing them spawns the big pack, killing that spawns a chest. Abyssal Depths can now also drop items that you can use to give equipment veiled mods.
why do every single spell takes two minutes to cast, why does it moves your character randomly, what the hell were they thinking
>>719359119Okay, but how was it?
Yet to try PoE II. Are crossbows with Merc fun? Otherwise it's back to magic I suppose.
I don't know what kind of build to make with warrior. Something with aftershocks, but Earthquake takes so long to even cast.
Anons... How do I be OP with Witch. I feel like I'm doing no damage.
>>719382650You don't play warrior.
>>719382712i just played a minions build, it feels so opwhat are you playing
>>719383227Unearthed just feels really good and minions don't hit like wet noodles anymoreCouple it with the easy minion nodes in the skill tree (30% damage up for when the player gets hit is so free and early)
>>719353458I'm enjoying the season mod.
>>719379431Does the EB/MOM + Ghostwraithe robe/necklace combo still work?
>>719379431this was when poe2 was at it's peaknow its cringe
I started playing as warrior and a unique crossbow dropped off some random rare in the grim tangle. Think its a sign?
>>719367716Diablo 2 did it 25 years ago. It can't be that hard.
>>719382869I mean I'm thinking that too. This shit kind of sucks.
What should I buy with the 300 points from EA supporter?
>the hyped new market system is unusable until you hit act 3/4lol
>new to game>try to make a Monk spell build that can inflict Chilled, Shocked, and Ignite with any attack by using the cold and electric attack nodes>realize like 7 hours later that this doesn't really work because chilled, ignite, and shocked chance are damage based
>>719384069stash tabs wait for a sale
>>719353381does this red vs blue image even make sense, is there some factions fighting against each other in poe 2?
>>719359265How is not having to message 800 different fags to buy an item "casual"? Are you retarded? PoE had the most dogshit market system I've ever seen.
>>719385785Players vs Devs
>>719353458reminder it was not like this at launch. poe players destroyed a beautiful thing>>719361148kill yourself you brainless worm
>>719379923kys cookie clicker nigger
>>719362739game doesn't even let you customize a character for some reason, at least d4 doesn't lock you behind characters as classes as if that's ever been a good design. Trying to ape d2 so hard they forgot that game was made 84 years ago.
So did they intend me to use mace autoattack over everything else on purpose? I try to do anything else and not only is it more effort it also deals less damage.???
>>719386068Mace tree fucked up since day 1. They hate melee.
>>719372207When you said based takes i thought you'd be talking about that guy that called lily his sister than used to be his brother which got a hearty kek out of me
>>719386068>melee in a poe gameretarded?
>>719385991Cuz you're a specific character with a specific reason for being exiled, not a random nigger
>>719386291This has literally no bearing on anything at all, and nothing would change by being able to customize how the character looks. If they were real characters I wouldn't be able to name them HugeMcLardass anyway.
>>719386398Nah, the blacksmiths son is a specific person ingame not your donut steel ocGo play D4 if you want to customize the face wrinkles on a character the size of a fingernail
why does parry just do absolutely nothing sometimes.
The ingame warrior model is a black guy, but the avatar on your character selection screen is white.
>>719385785It basically means nothingRed Team>Alva>Enihar (Not in the game)>Jun (Not in the game)>Zana (Not in the game)>??? Hat man (Not in the game)Blue team>Maori ??? (I guess Marauder MC, not in the game)>Archer ??? (I guess they're some unrevealed ascendancy. not in the game)>Helmet ??? (I guess duelist, not in the game)>Last guy (Looks like Lich or Ritualist, but they're both women, maybe that's supposed to be a woman, potentially in the game)
>>719385785It's the Betrayal league banner with a '2' lazily cuntplastered over it.
yo is this game supposed to suck ass or they just did that for the free weekend
Why am I playing dark souls with a diablo camera
>>719353381I haven't played POE2 in many months but I returned this patch because I want to play fist monkSo far I'm only lvl 10 but I'm navigating towards the fist skill and hopefully I'm gonna have a blast and i'm looking forward to playing act 4
How is Unearth, bros? And what Ascendancy for it?
>>719376054feels surreal seeing my art randomly in this threadthank you king, you've made my day. now I need to drop everything I'm currently doing and draw
>>719353381It really feels like the game is too easy now right from the beginning. I'm not getting immersed like I did the first time I played it.
>>719386632ohh I figured it out there's a stun threshold bar next to your life. Where you're never actually looking because you need to be looking at where your character is.
>>719361508just turn upscaling off it looks way better
Bloody hell mate, where are all me bloody Mercenaries in this thread eh?
>>719353458>play grim dawn>literal snoozefest of 1-attack, maybe a couple support abilities>all the zoned are the same brown dogshit>every skill and item slowly becomes yugioh level text of irrelevant statsi don’t want to have to have five different resistances on my gear that also needs all the relevant stats and look through its convulated ass constellation system in order to maximize doing the one thing I’m already doing in a bland ass arpg. Grim Dawn is a cope
>>719361508DLAA retard
>>719368193Also god forbid you play this game on a HDD, literal minutes to load between zones.Completely inexcusable for a game that barely looks better than the first game but is 50% larger in size.
why are my skel minions not spawning? do i need some requirements first?
>>719386926See the guy on the character selectscreen is a white guy named Smith and you play as Renly’s son, who is a Blacksmith
>>719389206it has a timer, or did you forget to set how many you want out in the skill menu
>>719366898Maybe that one league in PoE1 where minion necromancers shat on everything traumatised them
>>719383516Thats not even remotely true stop baiting retards into playing your game. Minions still feel like absolute dogshit.. the die instantly and do no damage in the first zone of your game and are completely undertuned they can't even handle the new mechanic without you have to spam essence drain to kill the mobs yourself in the first act. Literally they are constantly dead to the first mob they encounter. Fix your fucking game
>>719353381So how bad is the warrior nerf?
>>719389793Ive been using contagion and unearth without any issue. those contagion-infused temporary minions fuck shit up.
>>719388928Bruh... they ruined galvanic shards...
>>719390550what are some good gems for unearth?
That Count Grenor boss fight is good enough to be a Bloodborne boss.
>>719391171I can't believe Karl Franz did this
>Detected out of date GPU driver. Please--No.
Is armor applying to elemental hits worth it?
>>719358802No, they shouldn't have listened to ADHD PoE1 streamerfags who whined from the start that they couldn't press 1 button to win while teleporting all over maps never actually interacting with anything.
>>719353381What is the gimmick this season?
>get knocked down>take 50 years to stand back up>spam roll>get chain knocked down anywayfor fuck sake this is fucking infuriating
>>719391290Abyss
>>719391290Extra mobs spawn and when you kill them even more mobs spawn and then when you kill them you get a reward. You know, like they all are.
>>719391428And they're green.
Didnt play since 0.2What the fuck is this infuse spell shit?Did they unfuck fire spells? Why the fuck sparks do no damage
>try monk melee>got fucked countless times in first act >every melee skill is so fucking slow>roll is fucking trash lmao, melee state is even worse than in poe1
>>719391705u vill cull the enemies to get power charges and u vill like it
Diablo IV won bigly by doing nothing.
>>719391153i havent gotten too far but duration for the summoned minions is convenient to keep them between packs. if you want it for damage, then the one that consumes minions or ups the phys damage would be good.
>>719391705why would you play melee in a poe game? you're not stupid are you?
Poe1 gods won.
>>719391702>InfuseMore combo bloat and forced complexity, do a bunch of pointless shit for 10% increased damage (Actually less damage because you spent time to set it up)>Fire SpellsNo, chaos is the only really viable spell element right now, although you could throw a cold caster together and have it workable if clunky and worse than nearly every alternative.>SparksDied for Archmages sins, then Archmage died for Archmages sins too and lightning spells became irredeemable trash.
>>719392010Magic is shit too
>>719392086you have to play the dev approved builds
>>719392123you mean one build and its a fucking bow/crossbow boring trash
>>719392123what is the dev approved 2h mace build
>>719392046>Chaoshey, its the only thing i didnt try beforemight as well
>>719391910
>>719391910I’m liking Exile 2 but I think Diablo 4 is the better game.
>>719391910Funny how they shittalked hard D4 but ended up doing the same shit and STILL havent released their finished game.
>>719392976I think Tencent is behind that sort of marketing. I know because Chinese people can think of nothing else except one-upping the competition. I swear the populace has some societal complex where they have to constantly impress family and beat the neighbours kids or something via subterfuge. I swear it’s this. All the Chinese add agencies tell streamers to trash D4 online when D4 and Poe2 are just as good as each other.
>>719390550yeah and how are you killing things to get corpses when unearth does 10dps you fat fucking retard
>>719391705I tried Monk in 0.1 and found it fucking miserable until I got Charged Staff, which did make it feel like the kit fit together a lot better but by then the damage was done and I dropped it halfway through A3.
>>719392046>do a bunch of pointless shit for 10% increased damage (Actually less damage because you spent time to set it up)It's going well for me just using Shock, Flame Wall and Snap. Once I get my first lightning charge I'm constantly capped on them since every enemy is shocked, and the infusion more than doubles the damage boost from Flame Wall. I have Ember Fusilade slotted too just to burn off the excess. I'm having a very comfortable time clearing, but I'm only in A2 to be fair.
How is Beastmaster? You just stack spirit and get to summon OP pet?
>>719379431I remember when I played it Witch was the strongest class I played. Did they nerf her a bunch?|
is there a way to get frenzy charges on huntress other than parrying and culling?
>>719394227She was nerfed a bunch, but is still the second strongest class, the way the class breakdown is right now is>Ranger - 54%>Witch - 25%>Merc - 6%>Monk - 6%>Huntress - 3.5%>Warrior - 3%>Sorceress - 2.5%
This is the thing with early access, it’s like, you never know the intended quality of an element in the game. Is this undertuned? Was this boss attack overlooked? Was this part tested? Are they gonna fix this later?It’s like you can’t discern what to enjoy and what’s just on the list to be fixed later.
>>719391290>>719391428 it's literally just strongboxes.
>>719394509what, why are ranger and witch so high
>>719359119>AI slop
The story is boring as fuck man. For all the combat inspiration from Dark Souls, I would have rathered they take NPC dialogue from there instead.
>>719394732Ranger has LA/LR, a 1 button clear skill and 2 button single target combo, which is just miles ahead of every other skill in the game when it comes to speed and damage.Witch has ED/Contagion, a two button build with decent clear and is very tanky to make up for bad boss damage.Every other good build from the past was hit by the good old GGG triple tap. Merc has a couple viable builds, one grenadier that gets two passive trees it swaps between, one for clear, one for bossing, and a Ballista summoner build, but both are really clunky to play. Monk is still ringing the bell like it's 0.1, but it's not nearly as good as it once was since the scaling was gutted, reducing damage by 80%. Huntress just plays LA/LR, but is worse than the Ranger in every way. Warrior is melee and armor, and is on the side of the tree that gives every notable a downside. Sorceress was hit hardest by nerfs and recent changes made it so Elemental magic needs to use all elements instead of focusing on one, meaning it's the most setup and combo focused class.
>>719353381i tried playing it but after 20 minutes i got a migraine and dizzinesssomething about the perspective is really fucked
Poo2 bros.... Our new cope?
Fuck it playing warrior I can't get on with huntress.
>>719395536you're weak and you wont survive the winter
>game has 1000 active spells>game has 5000 support abilities>game has 40000 passives>1,5 (one and a half) builds that people actually playlollmao even
>>719396458its more along the lines of the playerbase being so retarded they cant think for themselves to make a build for themselves all streamers said do deadeye so everyone did deadeye
>>719396458What do you expect from an ARPG that doesn't respect anyone's time?You can't experiment without having to go through the campaign again, and again, and again, especially with their shitty maps layouts. Respec is almost non existent since it's simply too expensive.This is garbage, but it's not just a POE2 issue, most ARPG devs do that. The players keep getting shat on directly in their mouths, and they love it.
>>719396661>What do you expect from an ARPG that doesn't respect anyone's time?arpgs are not supposed to respect your time its literally a genre made for grinding
>>719353381>tfw never got to like poe1 or 2feels bad man
>>719396691Yes, there is grinding to get gear for your builds (to experiment, to push...), and there is the retarded grind to remake the exact same character and class because respecing is garbage but it's needed.The first is better because you want to progress your character and try different stuff.The second is completely a waste of time, just because someone decided that "yeah I want this person to restart a character" that'll take 100s of hours.
>>719396539I agree to a certain degree, but playing a bad build in poe2 is so ass. I much rather play a bad build in poe1 or LE. poe2 also has gigantic maps so of course people are gonna pick the movement speed build
>>719396539try playing without looking at a build. you will hit a wall at lvl 1 maps
>tfw you get a weapon drop that doubles your dos
>>719397101Dps but you still get it, I’m having a lot of fun
>>719353381does the endgame still suck in this patch?
>>719397320campaign sucks, endgame sucks. game is not worth your time
>>719396661Grim Dawn doesn't have this issue
>>719393957It's just for buffs. The pets themselves do no damage
>>719396539Maybe if the game didn't mandate ultra giga minmaxed build autism to do anything people wouldn't need to look up hyper giga minmaxed autist builds to use. Blame GGG for nerfing everything into the dirt.
>>719396539No it's actually that the devs are retarded and can't design a skill system or passive tree system that's even remotely balanced to save their lives
>>719397021i dont look at build guides i make my own its not that hard, you look at the skill gem, look at its tags, write them down top right corner and scale them on the passive tree and your gear, its really not that hard.
This patch is good
>>719396539I think it's more to do with deadeye simply being better than most options available thanks to tailwind alone (nevermind everything else). I was thinking about playing one with spears and I think I'll still be doing that.
>>719397704Lol lmao
>>719397726Just look at ranger starting tree. It has a shit ton of damage right along a straight path out of the starting zone that goes right into more damage, movement speed, companion damage conversion, crit, deflect, evasion. All any easy grab straight out of the gate.No other starting area has this much node efficiency, on top if it being a ranged class with the highest mobility, the highest single target damage, most weapon speed, damage reduction and 150% evasion scaling in a single ascendancy point. What the fuck even is this fucking game? Mercenary gets knock back and stun threshold in the same spot ranger gets a fuck load of crit and elemental damage passives?? I honestly think they are making it shit on purpose there's no explanation to how blatantly retarded the balance is
>>719393263All the dmg comes from contagion, so you just use unearth when they’re low or on higher degrees of contagion. I’m using quarterstaff with contagion/unearth, and it felt really bad at first, but getting used to the timing made it better. It’s like contagion-> two hits of glacial cascade, then spam unearth until it clears, which is working pretty well, but not good in bosses. Bosses feel like rollslop-> quarter staff basic attack, repeat. Maybe it’s because I’ve only really taken energy shield nodes so far. Hopefully it gets more fun as a lich with unholy might, and hallowed palm chayula combo spam with unearth and contagion mixed in. But it’s poe2, so it probably won’t work.
>>719395756We are in the>it's just an alphastage.
Can merc actually use his arrows now instead of grenade spam?
>>719397962You sound retarded. Enjoy your first playthrough of an arpg. I wish I were as naive as you
>pick witch>game becomes funSkill issue
>>719398112no they nerfed it more than last league
>>719398401based
>>719398280>No argumentYou = SeethingYour asshole = GapingConcession = Accepted
>>719398401I started with Sorceress and it's honestly insulting how much Witch completely fucking mogged her with minimal effort. Going through the campaign I was fighting for my life and dying constantly while using Sorceress but with Witch I legit don't think I've ever died a single time. This game's balance is fucking awful.
I don't like comboing to make my abilities do something>Throw out ability that takes time to explode>Enemies have already run past itCOOL
>sprintinglmfao
>>719398608cool cat
>>719398815Why don't you just freeze them?
>>719398610>no argumentlil bro. Your build is retarded. You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are even talking about. Quarterstaves aren't used on minions. You are using staff melee skills and then casting unearth pretending it's a minion build. This will work for precisely 15 levels until you realize how retarded you are. Everything you said in your prior post outted you as a complete shitter who has no idea what they are doing in game. You couldn't be more new if you tried
>>719353381I was going to try it during the free weekend until I heard that melee is complete dogshit and this isn't anything new for GGG
>diablo 3 figured out how to make melee not garbage>grim dawn figured out how to make melee not garbage>last epoch figured out how to make melee not garbage>goat fuckers just can't do it, 2 games in a row?????
>>719396458>Ranger ascendancies largely unchanged thematically>Witch ones are completely differentwut
>>719399604it's pretty clear they hate melee and melee players, based on the leak their design philosophy is melee should be weaker than magic
>>719400217Idk I think it kind of makes sense>if melee is better than magic it means the game is probably too easy in general
>horrific ascendancy balance>item drop still horrible>sprint doesn't even improve the awful map traversal >slow as fuck combat(for you)>enemies still swarm you at mach 50>paid only transmog >no character customizationI really don't think there's anything they can do to make me like this game, I'll just wait for D4 season 10. Even though every fag on the internet shits on it because that troll assmongrel it's actually fun unlike this game.
>>719353381I have almost 10k hours in POE1 and only 79 hours in poo slop 2 and I can't even bring myself to log into this "new league" it's honestly one of the worst, pain stakingly slow games I've ever had the misfortune of playing.INFACT I already knew it was terrible just from the trailers and I had no intention of paying for it, I got it free on a giveaway
>>719356935despite the negative reviews which 90% came from it bad launch, it's actually a fun and stable game.. I enjoyed my time playing it though the endgame is pretty dogshit it's still better than poepoo
>>719401189>the payoff for less range and eating more damage is to also be weakeryou should apply to work there
>>719394732I played ranger last of all the classes in PoE2, and left her till today to start the new league because she always seemed ez modeIt's fucking unreal how boring the game is with lightning arrow/lightning rod. its just incredible how easy the content peels apart to her LEVEL 1 SKILLS.fucking baby mode class. i breezed through the first three acts only dying to the new abyss content because i didn't notice the the dark green orbs on the dark green ground that do dark green booms.tldr: high reward low input.
>>719401189this makes no fucking sense, range is always the easiest way to play any game without cast bars
>>719402317after half a year of early access, why can't the devs balance the classes?
>>719399604i disagree with you on the grim dawn part. its definitely viable, and they for sure take it in interesting directions, but the feeling is dogshit.
>>719402317everything besides witch feels unplayable and useless after playing deadeye, crazy how poorly balanced this game is
>>719402467Surely more nerfs are needed. Lightning Spear was 50% of builds last league, it got hit by balancing and now it's sub 1%. We just need to hit LA/LR and ED/C, then they'll be at 1% next league and GGG can have a better look at what they need to hit next.
I just wanna play a melee witch man. But NOOOOOOO the ascendancies always specify spells.
>>719402972yeah the ascendancies suck
>>719395756wait for 1.0...
still feels like i'm playing diablo 3fundamental design changes must be made
>>719393224lmao>>719403095
>>719401494>>sprint doesn't even improve the awful map traversalI cannot even fathom what they were thinking with the little details of this shit.>Starts up and immediately stalls if you hold the dodge button for slightly too long (not an issue in combat since you're always going to be overriding it with an ability), only annoying just after when you hit it out of habit, but aren't committing to the sprint>If you get hit while sprinting AT ALL (thankfully degens don't count), you are instastunned (even from offscreen), instead of it building up your in-built heavy stun meter which only matters for block/parry currently>Sluggish turning speed makes it feel utterly vile on WASD (the premier way to play)>Not even all that faster and only relevant in huge zones where you manage to miss something, but you'll have to stop anyway because of a pocket of monsters every 5 feet because you didn't visit every single possible patch of unmapped ground on the way to destination 1>Gets caught on tiny ground bullshit instead of automatically curving around it
>>719405279Oh and also,>endlag when you let go of sprint because fuck you, use a skill immediately instead of taking a moment to line yourself up properly
>piss of shit 2>made by some nerds that dont even play poe1>copy pasted over everything and dumbed it down>couldnt even fix the dog shit client of poe1
>>719404978my exact thoughts while picking through a tiny choice of incredibly boring spells for sorcwow a flame wall? jeez louise. braindead support gem choicessprint is just embarrassing and I unironically have to roll more in this game than the last souls game I played i wanted to just get to the crowbell zone and take in some new stuff and zone music but I don't think I'll get that far
>>719406043>Couldn't even make it to CrowbellThat is actually pretty embarrassing as well.
>>719407003when chris wilson said most players dont get past act 1 i never believed it to be true i guess i was wrong
Had a longer post in the works then I realized it's a waste of my time, but still worth more of my time than playing this game. It's just boring as fuck. Nothing else to say on the matter really. Campaign is a slog, and quite frankly I probably won't bother completing it this league.Half of my fucking time is wasted waiting for things to load. And then I have to load it again later because both my RAM and VRAM barely hit 3GB usage. USE MY RAM YOU FUCKING STUPID CUNTS, I HAVE 64GB OF IT, AND 16GB VRAM. I DON'T WANT TO LOAD THE SAME THING 500 TIMES, STORE IT IN MY FUCKING RAM.And then for some reason the Abyss mechanic is effectively mandatory. It's not like PoE1 where you have to trigger it. It's already triggered. In every fucking zone. Just to make the chore of a campaign even more of a chore. And all it is... is a strongbox. It's a pre-triggered strongbox. That can't be modified.Matter of fact, I'm uninstalling right now. I just realized how much I dislike this game.
>>719353381Just to check...If I started the game a few days ago, SSF, before the patch, and I still haven't finished Act 3...I can start Act 4 without restarting / reseting my game. Right?
>>719405279>>Sluggish turning speed makes it feel utterly vile on WASD (the premier way to play)lolJust play on a controller. Sprinting feels fine on it, you can roll again to quickly change direction.
>>719408247So far, my only complaint with Abyssal is that the loot is ass.I like fighting all the mobs.
i can't believe diablo is still a better game and i guess that at this point it will be for life
>>719353381retard
>>719405279Just giving you a no strings attached sprint to make the game less of a fucking slog goes against "the vision"
>>719393224>I swear the populace has some societal complex where they have to constantly impress family and beat the neighbours kids or something via subterfuge.its called face. chinese culture is all about appearances and social standing. to the point where it is destructive to their own culture and society.
it's simply not as good as diablo IV
>>719402968>nerf everything useable to 1% usage>now everything is 1% usage (translation: its absolute dogshit)>eyyyy our game is balanced
Is Acolyte Monk a decent to good pick this season?
>>719396458>be keen on absolutely gutting everything that is remotely fun and/or powerful so its never used againThats basically GGG "balance" method.At this point just put a hard DPS cap. I.e. you can't do more than X damage / Y DPS. It seems they would like that so you have to jerk off in front of mobs/boss for 10/60 seconds each before killing them
>>719353381yeah it's designed for consoles, mobile in mind target audience is are retards
>>719407003as in im already bored retard not stuckeven d4 players can roll every 2 seconds
>>719356935they're releasing a new ARPG soon, looks unironically like Diablo 4
>>719411206Thats poe1.
>think infusions look fun>roll sorc>walk up to a pack of 3 monsters>frost bomb>living bomb>orb of storms>flame wall>ele weakness>THEN you can attack unless you're getting mobbed and need to roll away>remnants are mandatory to do damage, you can't just walk up to a new pack and use fireball and expect to hit harder than Jonathan's IQ>EVERYTHING has a slow windup and you end up needing to roll out of attacks mid-animation so nothing comes out>your best option is to just deal with it and drag your balls through the acts by getting sandbagged constantly before you can even access decent gear>also single target damage is nonexistent and most bosses take double the time/effort compared to faster builds or build that invest into stun/knockbackfun game
>>719411828meanwhile ranger can brainlessly mow their way through the game pressing two buttons and occasionally barrage
Even for free I cant get any of my friends to play with me.
Melee bros... maybe next patch will be ours... Next time for sure
>>719411828They spent 4 months reworking these skills btw.
The combat feels so clunky and unsatisfying. Does it get better as I level up? Playing a crossbow build btw
>>719412197crossbows need reload speed passives, it used to be even worse prior to this patch by the way
Is it normal to take 4min+ to kill the act 1 boss? Got like 180dps on my main skill but it's getting in melee you get zoned out or chunked hard
>>719412382That's completely reasonable if you're not running some overpowered bullshit.The Acts are a bit of a slog at times on "normal" or bad builds.
>>719353381I tried it for a bit/ got to level 6 and am bored. its the same shit as last time but now with green monsters that hit hard and drop nothing
>>719412649I played ice strike monk and it felt pretty miserable. Could never drop the bell unless the boss was frozen for slightly higher single target dmg.Took me 4 tries to beat it and I went back to town to redo all my gear
Infernalist or Blood Mage?
Why is merc always trash?
>>719353381Just quit in act 3, this game is so fucking boring.People complain about the POE1 campaign and I get that, it's an old game, but on the boring scale it's not even fucking closeWhen people talk about POE2 being a "slog" I get it now holy shitAlso, I didn't replace my helmet, boots, gloves, both rings or amulet since act 1, I found nothing that would really matter if I put it on. I suppose I could have bought something, but not finding a single upgrade was weird.
god this game is boring, it's missing everything that makes an arpg an arpg, why do people keep shilling this everywhere and whenever you have a critique these troglodytes just immediately bring up diablo iv
>>719412382It's not unreasonable. I remember my first build in 0.1 was a grenadier that relied on gas and explosives. The count took 5 minutes, later on the act 2 boss took 15 long and stressful minutes because he could and did oneshot. I eventually dropped him in act 3 to just play the meta instead since the Trials bosses were filtering me hard and a oneshot after 20 minutes of fighting the Chimera that spends 90% of his time in an invulnerability phase was the last straw..
Just beat my 1st Trial on this character with this setup.Ask me anything.
>>719365694How am i suposed to kill bosses with minions in this game? They do no damage and die too fast.
Thanks for beta testing for me, make sure to report all the bugs so the game is actually fun and playable for me by the time it releases in 2027
>>719413561poop of excrement goons bring up d4 more than people who actually play d4, they're actually obsessed with it and I can't figure out why, if poo 2 is so much better the game should speak for itself and they shouldn't have to constantly talk about other games
>>719413190Its funny because GGGs stated opinion is that people quit once they get gear, so obviously they need to make gear never drop, especially while leveling, where you need it the most.So now every good item has a .0001% chance to drop and every unique you actually find yourself without interacting with the RMT/botting market is absolute useless dogshit.This is also all downstream of their leveling "Races" where the acts have to be made to be as long and tedious as possible so they can boost twitch numbers to show their chinese investors.
>>719414330They spent ages mocking things in D4 that slowly have become part of POE2, and that really mindbroke them.
>>719398693Witch can be good as long as you dont play her the way devs wanted.
Can I have two different species of tamed beasts with the double companion node or does it not work like that?
>>719414528Why wouldn't it work like that?Each Tame Beast gem lets you summon a single monster.
>class distribution is 90% deadeye and witchFunny how they talked so much about how they improved the balance but it's somehow even worse, is improved balance for them just nerfing everything except deadeye and witch?
>>719411828They have no idea what to do with sorcerer while giving other classes straight damaging skills.
>>719414647Specifically everything except Deadeye.Witch is just really fucking good and Deadeye is the GGG-approved overpowered turbozoom class that is mandatory for all Chinese players to have access to, so they can speed-farm to RMT as much as humanly possible so that China can continue to siphon wealth out of the west.No, that's not a joke.>>719414671Allt hey really gotta do is bump the numbers and stop putting cooldowns on everything.
This is not okay, talentless hack devs.
Did they scale down the difficulty or was the ranger just always this fucking good?I went from needing a couple of tries at certain bosses (ervid, geonor) to nailing them on my 1st tryBut it's also my first time playing this class, so for all I know rangers were just broken since the start
>>719414647>There are Unascended Rangers and Witches as high as level 84This has to be some botting bullshit, right?
>>719414790>Deadeye is the GGG-approved overpowered turbozoom class that is mandatory for all Chinese players to have access to, so they can speed-farm to RMT as much as humanly possible so that China can continue to siphon wealth out of the west.Can't believe I never thought of that, damn now everything makes sense how this thing has managed to avoid nerfs from the start
The last time I installed my post act 3 sorc was dealing no damage in act 1 hard mode. I was using static field, meteor storm and ice comet but I was hurting my fingers dodge rolling even the king in the mists. And this is just act 1. Count Geonor is going to be cancer at this rate so I just quit and uninstalled. I just have no time anymore to look up a build guide and figure how I fucked up my build.I'm playing first descendant instead.
>>719362563nobody knoes. The real question is why they're so god damn expensive
>>719414927Bows and Deadeye are just busted.
>>719415009Why even bother with ascending when they're all so shit? There's no Trickster in poo2.
>>719398608god damn, looks like garbage
>>719412665>I tried it for a bit/ got to level 6 and am boredthats like 10 minutes into the game
>>719414927Ranger was always that good, it even needed some emergency day one nerfs for attacks like Rain of Arrows. It's just that there was always something more reliable, but not anymore, Ranger is the only class left untouched, it was even indirectly buffed. Back when the game was all one portal, you really felt Rangers 5k EHP, now that you have more portals the lack of defense isn't as big a gamble so the eternal shitcrow cry of "MOAR DEEPS" wins out.
>>719415009Yes, most likely chinese
>>719408879i think it feels fine on wasd. that guy is just an actual retard. i cant think of any game with sprinting in it, where it doesnt nerf your turn rate while you sprint. thats like the standard with sprinting in video games.
Did they fix warrior yet? Or are we still just our starter skill, getting steamrolled by everything since HP/armor suck, and stacking strength because every other passive on their tree is worthless?
>>719406043>i cant make it ten minutes into the game without quitting and raging on vee about it>this is some how the game's faultwat
>>719415754warrior is the worst class in the game atm so no
>>719414889Neither is this.
>>719415754Warrior's best build is leap slam into bone shatter until you're able to find enough shit to spam hammer of the gods. Totems, which were only okay after huge investment, got giga-nerfed into the dirt. Warrior is complete fucking asscheeks stay the hell away.
>90% of the builds do like 10% of the damage of the meta onesDoes any other ARPG have this problem to this degree?
>go monk to try fisting>rush to that keystone>triple my damage with it>act 1 boss drops 400 gold>try chayula>go for the breach node>purple things give damage>but lasts for 5 seconds>cooldown per stack>can keep 1 stack up for actual combat>spec to volatile>spend 5 minutes building stacks>for 15 seconds of barely more damage>act 2 dreadnaught>damage is now gone>spend 10 minutes on the boss while having -10% lightning res>respec into invoker>spend 9 minutes on the boss>act 3>still no damage in sightdoesn't feel like a descendancy, it just feels like a bunch of nothing.
>>719415128>I'm playing first descendant instead.You know a game is bad when even the coomers its trying to bait aren't interested.
>>719416085Outside of that one season of bugged spiritborn in Diablo iv I think this game has the worst balance in the genre
>>719415754Warrior is the same as it was before except with 2% decreased elemental damage. They also nerfed strength stacking, I guess they noticed there were some mods on their side of the tree that didn't have a downside so now if you want to use giants blood you lose lose about 500 max hp.
>look up poe2>f2p weekend, neat>over 100 gig>for a diablo clonehowfucking how
>>719416125>the coomers its trying to baitWhat level of schizophrenia are you on that you think fucking POE2 is trying to "bait coomers"?
>>719416328Reread it kiddo.
>>719416353If you were talking about FD your post makes even less sense since clearly that anon IS interested in playing it hence why he said he's going to play it. You're a retard no matter the interpretation.
>>719353381I spent 40 mins downloading the new update then spent 6 minutes playing it and uninstalledShit still boring
>>719416320game devs just don't give a fuck anymore about compression or optimization because ssds are dirt cheap compared to how expensive they used to be so they'll always throw that burdon onto you and force you to buy more storage rather than doing their fucking job
>>719416125Because at the end of the day both poe2 and tfd are the same game. You build your characters to get even bigger numbers while mopping up hordes of trash enemies or nuking bosses in seconds. PoE's systems have become so needlessly obtuse and complicated that it makes me wish for the simplicity of fucking diablo 2. How is it that after 25 years arpgs still cannot get the formula properly?
>>719416423What do you mean "if?" Learn to read.
>>719416496Ah you're just baiting then. Find a hobby you fucking loser. Find something more productive then pretending to be retarded on Mongolian basket weaving forums.
>>719416585Uh oh meltie
PoE2 just isn't fun. You can feel the devs want to say how much they spite you everytime you encounter mobs and elites with bullshit buffs.
>>719353381I've never seen so much incessant faggoty whining for a good game in my whole lifeI played as a newcomer at ea launch and was blown away.Poe niggers should kill themselves. I pray that somehow the game survives being raped by 1.0 into trash bc of said annoying faggots whining.
>>719402972There are a few melee range spells, and you can equip a shield (or even the unique buckler that makes parries improve spell damage).
>>719416085and the meta feels like it's just good, not op
>>719416763thats all arpg's are in the social sense: a typhoon of endless bitching. always has been, always will be. be grateful you can read steins gate and just play it as is.
>>719402972Same but for sorc.
>>719408247No, fuck off. PoE1 had gigantic RAM streaming issues which they've finally fixed here. It isn't good to blindly use up all of your RAM and leave none left over for emergency loading. I want to fucking shoot the idiot developer who gave that TED talk once about using up all of the player's resources because it's a "waste" otherwise. What a fucking moron.
>>719417140It was better on ea launch. I created Huntress and it's absolute and total shit with a retarded design idea of using parry, in a game about oneshots. You don't use parry then your skills won't work as they should. You parry two attacks? You are dead. You attack another enemy, instead of the one you parried? No charge for you. Boss attack? Sorry, can't be parried, you are dead. Meanwhile witch cleans everything with one button.
>>719411828Stormweaver with Frost Bomb Cascade Short Fuse generates like 9 Infusions in one cast, dude.
>Tfw I'm just doing a Spark build againGod I just want 0.1 back.
>>719416320>>719416451>indians complaining about the same shit for 13 years over and over and over againsaar, buy ssd. $50 for 2tb.
Diablo IV is a better game doe
>>719416116They just got rid of the strongest node in Acolyte for some reason. Lucid Dreaming with Mantra used to be insane, it was like the reason to play the class. I guess they think all the extra remnant supports and stuff make up for it.
>>719418189they're both dogshit so it doesn't really matter
>>719417409All the most broken attacks in the game can be blocked or parried. The unblockable attacks are all really slow and telegraphic. It's the fast oneshots that kill you and you can block those.
Is Standard using 0.2? Is that how it works? Or is it 0.3 but without the abyss stuff only?
>>7194186800.3 but with no Abyss.
Is it better than PD2?
>start for the first time since game came out, pick Huntress>Tornado skillWait a minute this is just spark with extra steps
>>719420074it's better than spark but you have to press more buttons so people ignore it
isn't this the only genre they make? why aren't they good at it yet?
>>719388456do you post your art anywhere
>>719413917Why did they make the basic mace attack the most effective attack to use on a marauder?
>>719421256Because everything else has some amount of mechanical trigger, movement, or AoE.Mace Strike is just Heavy Strike, but built-in so you don't have to lose an extra Gem slot.And Heavy Strike, while bad, does decent damage if you're willing to sit there and swing.
Is the new patch worth playing or is it shit like 0.2?
It's wild when you think about the fact that Melee skills CAN be used while moving. Your character will automatically (but inconsistently) move towards an enemy just out of reach if you're targeting them.
Why is the game constantly bsoding my computer. I played the bf6 beta maxed out for 24 hours straight with no problems.
>>719422417chink coding
>>719422417I have a 7600 X3D and while on most games I'm sitting around ~60c this one for some reason I'm always around 85c+ and sometimes BSOD and I have a pretty decent AIO cooler, can't understand wtf is wrong with this game.
>>719420539no (except 4chan)maybe one day
>>719423403>>719423127kek is that what it is. i'll play again while checking temps. if it's ridiculously high that's why it's bsoding and i'm uninstalling the game immediately. you should too before you fry something or btfo your pastes.
>>719422417TL;DR: CPU-intensive and incompatible with certain hardware + software.
Anything that's not Witch or Ranger playable this league?
>>719422417The game is a crypto miner.
>>719372207Benji you need to quit albion its not good for your mental.
So are Ranger and Witch too strong or is everything else just too weak?
how's the new update?is warrior shit?i've played monk and necro but it's been a while since i've played, might make a warrior or huntress build if the new update is good with the skill/support gem changes
Man I don't know how we went this long without a sprint
>>719358210>play a new game>its not like the old gamethen play poe1 if you want the same game you absolute retard
It's a shame they made this for console gamerdads. It's way too easy and boring
>Do Act 1 and half of Act 2 as a Warrior>Utterly miserable>Fuck it, let's try Ranger, since I've never played a single normal-ass Ranger in over a decade of PoE (always some jank shit or Poison)>Holy fuck, this is amazingI am a little mad at the disparity.
Can't wait for some good ARPG to come out, eventually. I'll keep waiting.
I still have PoE2 fatigue from the last 2 leagues and it doesn't look like they are adding anything big.I think I'll sit this one out.
>>719426595it did come out. you just didnt play it cause the internet told you it isn't cool. diablo IV
>>719426592Also, I like the free cosmetics.I have no idea why they didn't advertise these.
>>719426674Already played D4. It's not awful, but it wears its welcome out fast and basically has the same issue as D3 where we are beholden to seasonal FOTM unique items to give us more build variety.
>season launch day thread>free weekend>24 hours and still not bump limitIts dead dude, go play a real video game now. Johnathan ruined this IP and now its a faggy baby game just like every other ARPG.
>fuck ass devs cant even bother to design skills properlyfuck these chink devs
I love the idea of ARPGs but I never have fun playing them
>>719427161What do you love about them?
>>719426619thanks for keeping me updated. i was wondering what u were gonna do about this
>>719427161This is me and city management games.
is jonathan still trying to force the game as a dark souls of arpgs? is he still seething that fatass mark was more competent than him at game dev?
>>719427546You're whalecum :)
>>719427010i'm slogging... even on a pretty strong character good god i am still slogging.they made a pretty good boss game but forgot 90% of it is not bossing. the entire philosophy for gameplay outside of bossing is not working.
dog shit chinked game. whered the original poe devs go?
Abyssal may not be very rewarding, but it's damn fun.
Does +1 to limit not stack? I got the passive that gives +1 to limit for orb skills and I've equipped overabundance on my frost bomb but I can still only have two.
So, from game design perspective, why spring has to be dogshit?
>>719427975Its sad that the playerbase for these games just wants cookieclicker. No challenge, no thinking, to everyone the game just sucks if you can't melt a boss in 10 seconds.
why the fuck do people play this right now? everything still feels like shit. will it ever not feel like shit?
>>7194299196 second cooldown.
>boss goes invulnerable for 30 seconds when you drop his HP to a certain amountwhat the fuck is the point of this MMO mechanic in a fucking arpg
>>719430315So you have to actually play the game, maybe?
>>719376054>stationary casting class>animation lockhave you never played a real action game in your life?
>>719430261arpg's are beat em ups with skill trees. yeah, no fucking shit you just want to beat shit up and not feel totally helpless.
>>719430426Fuck you zoomers.
>>719430481name one game thats "challenging". you have to impose shit on yourself like hardcore and solo self found for that.
>>719430550Apparently this game, since you're seething that youre not melting everything. Next.
>>719430593No, i think this game failed completely at what it was attempting and will roll everything back eventually.
>>719430261Its not a challenge to click the rollslop button when the game tells you to. Maybe you play games to play simon says 2.0, but i dont cause im not a npc. Thank god for this free weekend. Diablo II takes a giant shit all over this.
>>719430887What "no?" We wouldnt even be having this conversation if you thought the game was easy, your problem is literally that it isn't easy enough for you.
>>719430550>name one game thats "challenging"
>>719430971>Its not a challenge to click the rollslop button when the game tells you to. But its a challenge to be like poe1 and melt entire maps with 1 button? You dont want challenge.
>>719353381It’s not very good is it. Is this coming to consoles? Is that why?
Dark Souls did unimaginable damage to the industry. Ninja Gaiden 2 should have been in its place. APM >>>>> click the roll button slowly
>>719430975I didnt know you cocksuckers still existed desu. POE2 being tedious 1 build horse shit is just fact at this point.
Hey what is the good class to play. I picked sorceress and it’s boring as fuck.
>>719353381>the only good arpg ever made Based.
>>719431454>stop pointing out bs, cocksucker!Why are you even talking to me after I said you shittards don't want any challenge? Now you're problem is youre trying to have your cake and eat it too with your "I want challenge, but I also want my cookie clicker dopamine where everything blows up just my me being in the room" thing. Like whyd you (You) me in the first place.
>"pro" players rerolling because their theory crafted builds are shit>boot up huntress>lightning spear>mindlessly throw points around the tree>clearing maps with easeyeaa I feel like this might be more of a skill issue than anything
719431693>when you know nothing and just keep goingboring. play the game first.
>>719394509>Sorceress - 2.5%what in the fuck happened
>>719431982>points out that zoomers these days dont want any challenge>gets upset that I pointed out the truthMaybe if you cry enough youll turn the game into the mindless 1 button game poe is.
>>719431634lollmao evensuck a bag of cocks(You)Big guySneed
>>719431835Everyone knows what is good already. They just desperately want something else to work cause fuck playing ranger AGAIN. LE absolutely mogs this game with build variety.
>>719431598Sorceress is literally the worst class
>>719432471i feel like players just want poe1 speeds when poe2 dev team is actively working against that. so when they get a build that by all accounts is completely usable but not fast enough for their aids riddled adhd brain they need to reroll to speed meta. if poe2 turns into poe1 speed grind then i fear the game will die
>>719432791I don't want anything, the enemies are playing like they are the FLash is the problem, you can't break away and get distance so you can setup some combo, its always 10 gremlins on your ass and 2 "shooters" just peppering you, every encounter.the only time the fights feel proper is when its 5 gremlins and a "Big guy" enemy, how I'm supposed to set up parries or w/e wombo combo shit with 15 fucks on me at all times I have no idea.
>another shitty diablolikeD2 never surpassed
>>719432791>players just want poe1 speedsI dislike poe1 cause of the speed bullshit they have going on and would prefer poe2 to be slower. The problem is that mobs and trash packs are often just as fast or faster than their poe1 counterparts. The combat itself has a lot of problems with random one shots and after death effects being total cancer. The maps and the campaign also feel bloated and could easily be halved in size. Not to mention the devs boner for downsides on the passive tree.
>be ggg>every upside HAS to have a downsideAnd you know what, they did itThe upside of POE was fun and the downside of that fun is POE2For real, can someone explain, and I mean actually explain, why any regular ass nodes on the tree need to have shit added to them like reduced life or reduced mana, or reduced cast speed or anything like that.What purpose does their upside = downside serve.
So mana just automatically refills now? What kind if braindead game is this?
>>719432791I dont want the zoomy walk around and screen clear shit of poe1, but poe2 is a little too far in the other direction. I want at least some "Damn I feel powerful" dopamine without picking the only 2 overpowered builds in the game, the gap is too wide. Bosses are one thing, but the remaining 90% of the game could be faster.
>>719353381Finally a game for me.
>>719433185they are way faster, and way more deadly.and until you start getting good gear (Maps basically) you can't do fucking shit.POE2 has one of the weirdest power curves in ARPG history, its famine into fucking FEAST, and usually that's because of a Divine Orb you trade for a god weapon.really the entire game is built around and balanced around you trading currency for a good weapon, the actual mechanics of loot drops around weapons and are armor are irrelevent.
>dude preprogrammed dial a combos lol
>>719426592Did they nerf Warrior in 0.3 that badly? I played Smith of Kitava in 0.2 and campaign was easy street. I went with a 2H (changed to 2H with shield when I got to maps) and used Rolling Slam and Boneshatter for packs and Infernal Cry followed by Perfect Strike for bosses. I was killing them in like three hits.
>>719432943This is my main issue.It's every pack, it's relentless, and oddly that makes it boringPack in POE1 are different, they act differentlyIn POE2 I can't tell them apart they are all giga fast little shits and then some big dude slamming the groundSo you walk a few steps and get mobbed and surrounded and then it repeats in a few more steps
>>719353381>PoE2>artwork is from PoE1 Betrayal league
>>719433676its such a complete and total departure from the core of the game they so worship, Diablo 2.its like they haven't played D2 in 15 years and are just going off of a memory of a memory.
>>719430275I'm using Spell Cascade. I should have +2 to Limit so 3 Frost Bombs pop up but only 2 do. Either limit source works on its own and I get 2 bombs, but both together still gives me 2 bombs.
>>719433463>trading currency for a good weaponI genuinely despise the trade system and think it negatively impacts the game. So many gearing and build issues are ignored because the devs can keep pretending liking buying someone's hand me down is a valid way to play. I've been complaining for years but just remove the ability to transfer SSF characters and alter drop rates separately.
>>719434230its the same reason we have the faggot ass small inventory, its just something they are autistically convinced makes the game better.I get D4 has too big an inventory but come the fuck on this shit is retarded.
>>719433664I dunno about late-game, but early is horrid.>2H with shieldGiant's Blood received an insane nerf that massively reduces your HP bonus from Str.
>>719434372I think Grim Dawn handles inventory the best, hell they even have an autosort feature which is fantastic. Meanwhile we are forced to waste one slot on identifying scrolls because these worthless fucks want to jerk off over D2. Then there's all the mandatory currency slots and having to pick items off the ground just to tell whether they are decent or not. And to top it all off we have to pick up a shit tonne of bases just to craft now cause apparently alterations are bad.
>>719434446giants blood needs to be removed from the game or heavily reworked, it's way too centralizing
>>719434732I honestly agree.
>>719383554GDCL is greatI wonder what's going to happen with its Asterkarn content given the new expansion coming out, though
>>719434732They need to make it an ascendency node. As it stands it will always be impossible to balance.
>>719435129>They need to make it an ascendency nodeeven as an ascendency node it would be too broken the rest of the ascendancy would have to be dogshit to compensate. it's genuinely one of the best keystones to exist in poe history.
>>719435129And then everyone has to pick that Ascend for Melee unless the rest of it is genuinely unusable.
>>719396458Hasn't that always been the case, even with PoE1? The simple fact is they bloated the sphere grid and weapon slot systems out to where casuals can't understand shit in them without spending like 3 hours scrolling around the huge ass sphere grid to find a "Build" is someone else hasn't already done it for them.
>>719435202>>719435226If there's one thing GGG know its downsides. Just put it behind a worthless node like they did with hulking form and problem solved.
>>719405279why do they hate fun so muchlet me be freeunstub my fucking toe
>>719435660i dont think you understand that one useless node is not enough. if giants blood was released in poe1 in it's current state it would still be the best keystone in the game for melee players no matter how bad the downsides are
>>719396691He's talking progression/level character grind. Which is true. ARPGs don't respect players time in that they want you to do the campaign/4-10 acts repeatedly over and over and over to reach end-game [the true game/grind].I think only Last Epoch is the only ARPG that sort of "respects players time" and in that if you have the currency/keys to use the shortcuts (which you can get on one end-game character) you can skip the campaign on other characters and be at the "real game" in a 25-50% off campaign time grind.
>>719434893I heard somewhere the devs are putting the expansion in a different part of the map so it remains compatible.
Zanzibrant.. forgive me.....
>>719414351>Its funny because GGGs stated opinion is that people quit once they get gear, so obviously they need to make gear never drop, especially while leveling, where you need it the most.More funny when you realize D3 fixed this problem. When you hit a level threshold next tie of gear drops with higher base stats. The new min is always higher than the old max. So you easily upgrade while levleing. Then they made leveling fast after doing the campain once. Then they also made getting the set and leggos you want in multiple ways and the chase was working towards perfect stats while still having a leveling progression system to help when you didn't get better drops. All the problems Poe2 has have been fixed wither via D3, D4 or from Poe1. GGG just full fucking retarded despite the fixes from blizz or themselves already existing.
>>719435202>the rest of the ascendancy would have to be dogshit to compensate. it's genuinely one of the best keystones to exist in poe history.I'm the guy who mentioned Smith of Kitava above. They already did this there. What the fuck was Temper Weapon supposed to be, other than an intentionally dogshit filler node to give the illusion of choice, to pretend there was any option at all other than 4 points in the custom white gear, and 4 points in the resistance nodes?
>>719435993I'm pretty sure they're autistic and on some level think that retarded garbage mechanics somehow make the game better.
>>71943607190% of smith of kitava feels like they were just throwing darts at a wall.
>>719435762>I think only Last Epoch is the only ARPG that sort of "respects players time" and in that if you have the currency/keys to use the shortcuts (which you can get on one end-game character) you can skip the campaign on other characters and be at the "real game" in a 25-50% off campaign time grind.LE only respects your time through the campain the first run cause it's fast and easy. You aren't using those keys unless you got really lucky gear drops on a top meta class on first run or have a decked out alt afterwards. Either way once you get to monoliths you're time is shoved into the mud and spit on. The sheer boringness and unrewarding grind of monoliths sucks. Not to mention crafting becomes fucking useless cause you need near perfect exaulted drops and uniques to slam into legendaries to scale once you get a little bit into empowered.
