Guys, I just met this space Gestapo officer and she almost shot me on sight and even called me the L-word. Am I playing the right game? She's pretty hot though so I might just let it all slide for now, as proof of my magnanimity.
>Sorry Fei, but I can't let you hit that sweet Solarian ass until you know how to pilot the gear and unleash your true power level
Just wait until she's on her period.
>>719355031I fear those days like pheasants fear the hunting season.
Bump for Elly.
>>719354996Citan is the real protagonist of Xenogears. >Drives the plot forward more than anyone else>Has goals which are realized throughout the story>Has history with almost all the major characters and villains>Naturally talented fighter and gear pilot>Game makes him default leader of party when Fei is unconscious>Even has a powering up moment halfway through the story and gets a badass new weapon
>>719356045I thought it was Chu-Chu.
>>719355031>>719355238>>719354785Solarian women, not even once.
>>719356405It speaks volumes that Citan got hitched to a woman from Shevat, the main enemy of Solaris, rather than take a Solarian woman.
>>719356045>>719356170>pirate exiled prince>rescues and marries his childhood friend>banishes the illegitimate Prime Minister, regains his kingdom and abolishes the monarchy>has his own sandshipIdiots. Bart is the real protagonist.
Who designed those porny see-through showers in Solaris? Why are they like that?
>>719356830If I was a woman rather than a man I'd have written sooo much self-insert fanfic with this guy. Xenogears is truly egalitarian when it comes to sex appeal.
>>719356887>not having a glass wall shower room in the middle of your roomYokel. Probably don't even clean yourself every day.
>>719357062Bart, Margie and most of the Aveh related stuff was written by Soraya Saga.
>>719357237They look like something straight out of those sex hotel things they advertise towards couples trying to revive their love life.
>>719356887Elly has one just because she's that horny
>>719356830wtf
>>719357523
>>719357523For a male character to become the complete package in terms of husbando appeal he needs to have some sort of emotional trauma that the female audience can go "I can fix him with my love" over.
What is our official consensus on the Elements?
>>719357671Bart is off the market
>>719357523What are you confused by?
>>719358169...wanna know the only thing that's hotter than an incredibly attractive single guy for women? An incredibly attractive guy that is taken.
>>719358115Dominia is the only interesting one. Kelvena is boring but cuteThe other two can die
>Puppy Love : Bart & Margie >Mature : Citan & Yui>Schizo : Fei & Elly >Gacha Harem : Kahr & Miang/Elements>NTR : That Penguin couple in the Snow Base>Guro : Krelian >Sickos : Chu Chus
>>719358115all clowns
Being Ramsus is obviously the suffering to end all sufferings, but I can't even begin to imagine the cosmos-shattering dome Miang must have given him on the reg to keep him wrapped around her finger.
I already asked this in the thread on /vrpg/, but I'd be curious if anyone wants to share their thoughts here too:If Grahf knew from the beginning that destroying Deus and freeing the Wave Existence would end the cycle of Elly’s reincarnation and the mutation into Miang… then why does he say to Fei:"You still don't understand... even after your contact with the existence? I came to understand after my contact with the Existence that, even if Deus was destroyed... as long as humans still inhabit this land, Myyah... Elehayym, will be born time and again. Then all living things may as well perish along with Deus itself. That's the only path to freedom. The path to release us from the eternal cycles of life, the tragedies of history and the spell of fate!"Like, he’s basically saying that even if Deus is destroyed, Elly and Miang will still be reborn as long as humans exist…But isn’t that exactly what stops happening once Deus is gone and the Wave Existence returns to its dimension?
>>719359521Kahr was very insecure. I don't think it would've taken much of Miang's millennia of manipulative experience to keep him on her leash.
>L wordLand dweller? Haven't played this in years.
>>719360108"Lamb"
>>719359863My understanding is that Elly and Miang will still reawaken overtime because the "Miang factor" is still present in every woman at a genetic level.
Who or what is Miang? I have only played the first 2 hours of Xenosaga in 2004 when I rented it from blockbuster
>>719360545Rei from Eva but evil.
>>719360648Ah, I see.
>>719356045I do have an elly skin for X, but i haven't used it.
>>719359863All humans on the planet are parts of Deus and the interplanetary weapon system's reboot process. Only Abel survived the Eldridge's crash and we saw both Abel and Elly die in the flash back. Assuming the Gazel didn't happen to find their unmentioned child and raise it, no humans on the planet are "real". They're all part of a system meant to reconstruct Deus.Now, having said that, there's a far simpler answer to your question. While Lacan may have been able to destroy Deus, he may not have been able to free the wave Existence. That quote only mentions the former. In order to have a chance at ending the cycles of reincarnation, you'd have to at least free the Wave Existence since it is tied to Abel/Fei/Elly. As long as the Wave Existence remains trapped in the Zohar, it'll continue to work within Deus/Fei/Elly to free itself. With it free, there's some reason to believe Fei and Elly would stop reincarnating.
Terribly original idea, but man do I wish triple A companies actually experimented with weird shit like they did back in the days of the PS1 and PS2. They don't even need to be gigantic epics like Xenogears, something you can play from start to finish over a weekend like Parasite Eve would do perfectly too.
>>719360427>>719361610Thanks, my doubt was about the fact that if Lacan, when he came into contact with the Wave Existence, had known that he could stop the cycle, then it wouldn't have made sense for him/Grahf to have such a nihilistic outlook and want to destroy everything, because the solution was right in front of him. So I guess it's because the contact was incomplete and he couldn't fully understand it
Don't die just yet. Bump.
>>719356830I love how the writers got to revisit the Figaro brothers from FFVI and write a much more detailed version of them. I wish other FF games got the writing density of something like Xenogears. It's been on my mind recently and I wanna replay it (and I've been whining for my friends to give it a go). I've been thinking of playing the Perfect Works mod.
>>719359863Perhaps that's what Xenogears 2 was meant to be about, until the Spirits Within flop got it cancelled.On an unrelated note, Rasmus has such a fucking strange backstory. The shit with him crawling out of a dumpster, killing a kid and fusing with him, is weird. Would have loved to see that actually explored in the game
>>719358115Literally Ramsus's harem at the end of the game.
>>719364239Does the corrected translation make a huge difference? That seems to be the main appeal of that mod.
>>719365047I'm only a few minutes in not Perfect Works yet, so I'm unsure. Some of the name changes are strange - like Gebler into like Geburah or something. You should know that the patcher actually has a whole bunch of options you can toggle. The stuff I was interested in were the halved encounter rate, 1.5x exp and gold, corrected aspect ratio for character portraits, but also the rebalance options (separated for characters, but also for stronger enemies).I was unsure if I wanted to do the rebalanced characters/items part - because it balanced Airrods. I love killing half the bosses in the game with Elly lol, but it also makes a lot of your other party members much more usable.
>>719365292>Into Perfect WorksSorry I'm kinda rushing my posts and not fixing my auto correct
I love xenolore and all of you guys who can expound on it. It's sincerely some of my favorite.
ID throwing the sandship is still the coolest shit
>>719364530I don't see anything about "crawling out of a dumpster," just that he is abandoned in a trash area and fuses with some kid there.
>>719365434The Xenogears Perfect Collection PDF is well worth looking into, then. I want to buy a physical copy. I think Xenogears had one of if not the best RPG stories ever.Oh wait, Perfect Works I think it's called. Something like that.
>>719365292Oh wait where can I get this mod? Never even heard of it. I would love stronger enemies and some extra xp/gold to limit having to grind to fight them.
>>719365805I'm working backwards. Now that I've finally played and actually finished X, I'm going to start the saga games. One day I'll get to gears.
>>719365730Just expounding on the sentence. I guess I warped it, but even then - this abomination murdering a kid and fusing with him is still fucked to me, consider that's what becomes Rasmus.
>>719365889Right here brother: https://github.com/NoharOSP/Perfect_Works_BuildJust know the rebalancing aspect is still a WIP.
I still don't understand what the ministry waswere they just leaders that were eventually betrayed?
>>719365805they also recently translated the japanese novel, it's not canon but it tells a prequel of the story https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/Xenogears:_A_God_Slaying_Story
>>719365902You should really do Gears before Saga, because all the symbolism and references in Saga have a million times more significance if you understand their prior context.
Are anglophone speakers genuinely unable to pronounce X as ks? Xenogears as Ksenogears instead of Zenogears?
>>719366038They, along with Cain, were the first humans to exist on the planet after Deus crashed there. They were killed during the big war in Lacan and Sophia’s time, but had their minds uploaded as data prior to that, so they were able to keep living digitally.
>>719366403I mean, obviously they can, like in "ox", but the ks pronunciation of X never happens at the beginning of words in English, I think.
>>719366482thanks anon
I'm glad there are still active threads on /v/ even after almost 30 years since the release. Hopefully they'll do something for the 30th anniversary, even just a port would be nice imo
>>719366781Yeah, I'm not a zoomer so it's not like I can't set up an emulator, but a less bootleg option would be damn nice.
>>719354785>She's pretty hot though so I might just let it all slide for now, as proof of my magnanimityBwahaha, famous last words of many men.
>>719366781>>719367020Is the IP still held by Squeenix? I have a feeling Takahashi and his wife will start the next part of the xenofranchise before they give it up.
Unfortunately, yeah. I always hope Monolith (and Soraya Saga) can reach some kind of agreement to get the rights and make Episode VI or Episode I (pre-Deus), even on a small budget
>>719367871meant for >>719367676
>>719367676Yeah, though I've always felt a cooperative effort of Squeenix, Bamco and Nintendo could yield something one day. I legitimately think the only hiccup is the subject matter of Gears and Saga being outside of what Nintendo is comfortable with. I really wish the Blade games were willing to be as controversial as the older entries - but Nintendo is scared of any religious connotations.
>>719356887The 90s had weird ideas of what futuristic design looks like. Remember Demolition Man and the three seashell method?
>>719356830
>I am... forgotten...
>>719369221Blanka looking ass.
>>719354785when you see ellehaym van houten you realize eugenics was a good policy
>>719369221Billy, Rico and Maria suffered the most from the disc 2 cut sadly
>>719358638the whole budget for disk 2 went here
>>719369392I just remembered that the actress of the hot redheaded priestess of the Frenzied Flame or whatever from Game of Thrones was also called something-van Houten. I think it's supposed to be a really common surname in the netherlands, though.
the platforming in this is fucking ass. i dropped it after my first death to the robot gang because i forgot to save and cba to do the platforming puzzle to get up the cliff inside that cave again. lol. sort of felt like it was on the verge of going crazy with the sci fi plot too, but i'll probably pick it up again some day. i liked exploring the market and carnival areas in that capital city quite a bit more than i expected to at first blush. the minimaps for the cities are so cool. navigating the desert with the sand ship was really neat as well. so much going for it as far as ps1 jarpigs go.but that platforming has just got to go, it's making me want to use an emulator to skip it
>>719369837yeah the platforming didn't age well, but it's pretty rare to jump in a jrpg
>>719354785Remember to eat the meat.
>>719369837Yeah the game is pretty rough in parts. When I was 20 I steeled through it for the story mainly
>>719358287This is the one absolute in the universe.When women see a man in a relationship or married, they actively try to get that man for themselves.>>719356830Marguerite is his cousin.Incest is wincest.
>>719359521Ramsus was in love with the woman that Miang took over when they were both cadets in Jugend.She used that to her advantage.
>>719369431Billy at least got a decent arc for himself, even if it happens fast.
>>719360545She's the personified 'will' of a planetary assault weapon that's sole mission is to resurrect said weapon. Every time she dies, she takes the body of another random woman over while retaining her memories.
>>719369221How could anyone forget ganondorf from smash bros
For me it's Emeralda.
>>719371140Loli or teenager?
>>719370489So, does that mean Miang is that woman's name?
>>719371175Yes.
>>719371323Yes.Her Japaense name is Myyah which is the last part of Elly's name (Elehayym) backwards.Half Life 3 confirmed.
So is Earth called lost Jerusalem in every xeno series because humanity eventually destroys it or wipes it out or has to leave it. Or does every reality split from a point in time when Dr. Masuda finds the conduit in the early 20th century. What the heck was his problem?
>>719371538None of it makes sense, japs just love christian imagery and shit.
>>719371736I’ll wait for a real answer
Bump
>I assure you, player, Chu-Chu's backstory is absolutely essential to this game
Why did they give the MC such a ridiculous name?
>>719373568It's not ridiculous, it's the asian equivalent of "Tom Smith".
Elly is the big spoon fyi
>>719369221I've come to enjoy the D-Block sewers.
>>719371495>Her Japaense name is Myyah which is the last part of Elly's name (Elehayym) backwards.
>>719374449> when you realize the japs love simple little word play stuff like this and then your realize her name is just japanese humor
Reminder that Fei got to huff Elly's rancid stench up until they showered
>>719374801Women can't smell bad.
>>719374952You ever get some unwashed cootch on your face? It's heaven
>>719366038original Miang (the girl from the opening) used Kadomony to create a few hundred people before it was exhausted. Cain and the gazel were the first people created, along with the Antitype. They were all special because they got a relatively large chunk of Zohar's power assigned to them, which is referred to as the Animus in the game. That's why they always talk about getting their bodies back, because that power is tied to the body. When the gazel died, that power got recycled into new bodies, which during the game are Citan, Bart, Billy and Rico.
Elly is cute and deserves pregnancies. ...Does infertility get passed down through reincarnation?
>>7193581151 > 3 > 2 > 4
>>719375667Women around the world permanently smell like sweet citrusy flower gel ten minutes after a shower regardless of how long ago they had one and that is as far as I'm willing to entertain a debate about this topic.
>>719371538Earth always goes away due to Zohar shenanigans. In XS iirc, it gets shrunk to planck scale. In XB, it gets tossed into a pocket universe or something.
>>719375980No, Zeboim Elly's body was just damaged by the pollution in that era. There's a reason Miang scrubbed the entire civilization. None of them were suitable to be Deus parts anymore.
Xenogears a shit.
>>719377628you have a lot of nerve you one eyed monster
>>719358638If theres ever a remake I hope they get Mitsuda back so he can do more music. This scene having the “uplifting hyping up” music is really unfitting
Is there a good retranslation yet or is it still dogshit?
>>719356830Bart, He is a Char.
The epitome of cyborg perfection, EVER. 96kg worth of nanomachines, for those who are into femdom/face sitting. She can turn herself into an onee-san or a loli, or many diffrent weapons and fetish objects (a life size onahole, or she can fragment herself into an army of microdolls to enter your body).
How is it that all the Feis and Ellys look the exact same? What if the only humans left on Earth are black? Two blacks will still create a Chinese Fei?
>>719378243Only an undub patch for the cutscenes, for now.
>>719355031If you aren't smart enough to keep her well the fuck away from the Drive, you won't need to wait.Xenogears had an awful lot of characters with drug problems.
>>719379506maybe they just look the same so the player has an easier time understanding the plot
>>719356830Not just childhood friend, margie is literally his cousin
I want an Elly wife so bad bros
>>719381245Go to Germany and find the ones with Neanderthal blood for redhead genes
>>719359521>AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE, save me from banging this hot evil goddess and my harem of waifus that literally would do anything for me!Oh, the suffering!
>>719354785Bush status?
I started with Xenoblade in 2011 and never grew up with a PlayStation/PlayStation 2 so I never got to play Gears/Saga as a kid/teen.I played Gears last year though and it was one of the best games I'd played in years.I played a bit of Saga and Shion is annoying the ever living hell out of me. Does she improve as a character later down the line or is tolerating her woman moments something I'd have to force myself to do?
>>719375741>original Miang (the girl from the opening) used Kadomony to create a few hundred people before it was exhaustedThat makes more sense than birthing them.
