PC gaming would've been much better if pic rel was the default instead of Steam
Remember all those cool classic PC games Epic made? Me neither.
>>719358882can everyone pretend I said something equally retarded so I can get OP's (you)s? I too want attention and don't care how I get it, but unlike OP I'm going to be honest with everyone.Thanks.
>>719358968Remember cool classics like Ape Escape 2? yeah Sony should have a monopoly over consoles because of this
>>719359407It's not a monopoly it's just that every other platform has been a shitty soulless corporate cash grab and I say this fully aware that modern Valve has become the same thing.
>>719359027>actually believing this
PC gaming would be better without mandatory launcher DRM
>>719359705>devs release games on pc>instantly pirated >lose billions>release exclusively on consolegood idea, underagetard
>>719359761>instantly pirated If everyone on PC was a brownoid then minecraft wouldnt sell 300 million copies
>>719359923majority of minecraft sales come from bedrock editon retard
>>719359027HOW COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>719359027Everyone likes an honest and humble poster.
>>719358968How could you forget Jazz kino?
EGS would never have existed without steam. Steam made PC gaming more popular by making it easy. If anything, epic should be sending monthly payments to steam as tribute
>>719358882How would it be better to have PC Gaming locked to Microsoft's dying platform?Epic still hasn't made any moves to prepare for the EOL coming up in about a month.
>>719358882Okay, so go back in time and tell Tim Sweeney that his opinion on how PC gaming is dead and worthless for Publishers was wrongFucking idiot
>>719360371Epic has actively sabotaged Linux gaming after buying EasyAntiCheatThey dropped all further development for Linux
>>719360334> Steam made PC gaming more popular by making it easyThe hell is this revisionism? There was absolutely nothing difficult in buying a physical game and putting the disc into your drive and console games back then required you to do the same anyway. If anything having to deal with Steam back when publishers were beginning to make it mandatory and it was still a new, weird and unpolished thing was WAY more obtuse and unintuitive, especially if you had shit connection, which back then was also a much more common issue
>>719358882Even if I wanted to play the devil's advocate and agree with you, I can't think of literally even a single argument to support such thesis
>>719359761They can put DRM that isn't tied to the launcher. They could even ask for an account on their website.
Eat shit Tim.
>>719358882>PC gaming would've been much better if pic rel was the default instead of Steam
>>719362717I mean, unlike OP, this actually is a respectable opinion
>>719360826Installing drivers that bricked your virtual cd ROM was pretty annoying. Unironically better off pirating. Crackers removed the drivers.
>>719362717I wish cdpr spent less time on telling everyone how supportive of gay and trans they are and instead made upgrades to that particular service. Like maybe hire a team to make sure stuff is up to date.
>>719362717TRVKE that valve sissies are not ready to hear, g*d i love GOG
>>719362801I just wish many more people would use/support GOG *in addition* to Steam. Not even the Galaxy client, just buy and then install and "Add non Steam game" if one desperately needs all their games in one place on Steam. I do get if someone is an achievement fan though, can't get Steam achievements that way.
>>719363804>>719364013Yup, switched to buying whatever I could on Gog around 3 years ago and I really regret not doing that sooner. Their client could use some improvements, but I love the fact that it doesn't require you to go online or download updates at all and their policies are in general way better, so I do want to support them. I guess sunken cost fallacy of already having most stuff on Steam is what kept me from switching sooner, but it really doesn't matter
>>719362717This>>719364013Gog achievments are better they have a better unlock sound
>>719359027Yeah aight
I have every single free game that they have given away. Looking through my library is hilarious. 200-300 games that I will never play.i did play loop hero BUT THATS IT
>>719361383This already exists, it's server-based authentication that also limits how many times you can activate off a single purchase. Have multiple devices, want to upgrade, or just lost your old device for any reason? Tough luck kiddo, you have to pay again. Pic related fell victim to this when it got banned from Steam and had to release on Johren instead, resulting in most people, even literal r*dditors, telling everyone to just pirate it to not have to deal with the shitty DRM.
>>719358882im gonna be honest here boysi really dont get the hate for Epic.Some say the launcher sucks, and thats fine. but i tihnk its excessive if thats the biggest reason. a shopping cart? how often are you buying games in bulk that you even need such a thing? yeah, its kind of annoying ot have another launcher, but at least theres multiple games to launch from, unlike Origins or Uplay where its like 2 or 3 games total
>>719358968Epic ackshually made a lot of good shit, not the least of which was UT and UT2004, but there was also a lot of stuff from the shareware days like Jill of the Jungle.>>719360723WTF I love Epic now.>>719362717>GOG would be a lot better if they didn't actively repel publishers resulting in nogaems.>also if the launcher wasn't an ass web page you had to navigate to manage your own library>"but Steam uses CEF!"It also has an interface based on Windows controls that's much more comfortable to navigate.
>>719365610I don't care enough to seriously follow such dramas, but I think most of the hate came from somewhat scummy business practices and alleged chinese spyware. And obviously, your regular retarded tribalism
>>719365906My biggest issues:>shit on PC and abandoned it>late to the party when they came crawling back>bought exclusives>launcher is missing a lot of functionality>have to browse web pages to manage my library (all non-Steam stores have this issue)
>>719364013>Not even the Galaxy clientThere's no reason to use galaxy when Heroic exists and consolidates GOG, EGS and Amazon with linux support as a cherry on top.>"Add non Steam game"There's even a toggle in the settings to do this automatically.
>>719364013>GOG *in addition* to Steam.Nope. it's either GOG or pirate. I will never give another dollar to that fat fuck Gaben
>>719366153Ok but how is that any different to Steam when it comes to buying and clicking icons to launch my games
>>719365831>"but Steam uses CEF!"Every launcher does
>>719359027sure, better you than him.
>>719363804>Censoring godUnironically shalom. Still GoG is good stuff.
>>719365831>>GOG would be a lot better if they didn't actively repel publishers resulting in nogaems.I don't think there's much they can do, it seems like a chicken/egg situation: they don't get many popular games because they don't make much money and they need popular games to make more money.>>719367430I respect that but I'm trying to bridge a gap and find a middle-ground. People won't be giving up Steam but I can encourage them to also buy from GOG.(Also Zoom-Platform has some games that GOG doesn't, no client needed either.)
the only thing i used epic games store for is claiming free games are abusing the ridiculous sales prices loli think steam faggots are obnoxious and with steam actively censoring jap games, i find it funny how anyone can still defend valve
So is OP or anyone going to try and explain why Epic being the default would be better then Steam or is this just shitposting?
>>719368284>People won't be giving up Steam I don't care about the opinions of chinks and third worlders. I don't have any reason to give Valve my money when they have alternatives that are more supportive of developers and aren't actively hostile to the industry. Btw Valve corp functions more like a criminal racket rather than a legal corporation.
>>719369628>criminal racket?
Epic's attitude towards Linux is a huge red flag to me. I don't give a shit that the Linux family of operating systems isn't popular, going out of your way buying a studio that had an active linux port of a game before shitcanning it will put you on my permanent shitlist. That's not getting into crying about monopolies before turning around and saying using Linux is like moving to canada after a US election. Note this says nothing about Valve or their business practices, because I am overall neutral on them and prefer direct downloads from developers or GoG.
>>71936983510 billion dollars annual revenue with only 300 employeesGenuinely why the fuck is a single employee like the HR roastie generating them 30 million dollars every year
>>719369947>NOOOO YOU NEED TO BLOAT YOUR STUDIO AND LOWER THE WAGES FOR INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEESNeck yourself.
>>719369924You don't even use Linux, fag.
>>719370024keep feeding those kikes your wallet retard
>>719370185I do, but even if I didn't, so?
>>719369947>Create an extremely efficient and profitable business model>WTF, that should be illegal???
>>719358882fuck off timmyyour launcher is garbage
>>719370330>it's ok when Valve does it but not Nintendo or Apple
>>719358882>EGS is a failure>Unreal Engine is hated>Fortnite is dyingSucks to be Timmy.
>>719370549You still haven't explained what exactly is wrong with "it" and even what exactly is "it"other than being efficientAnd no, I don't give a flying fuck about what other shitty corporations are doing because we're not talking about them right now
>>719369628>won't somebody think of the poor developers?!kill yourself
>>719368284>I don't think there's much they can doWhen publishers want DRM and you tell them they can't use it on your store, publishers don't want to deal with you. Regardless of how gamers feel about DRM and the very real results of using it, publishers want it.
>>719370671People have more money than me and that's bad.t.
>>719371783Sure, but DRM policy is Gog's main selling point. That and retro games I guess. I mean, sticking to their principles is one thing and it's respectable, but it's also just a smart business decision in their situations, since it is one of the very few things that can actually make them win some customers over from Steam
PC gaming would've been much better if pic rel was the default instead of UE
>>719372063But they're not winning over the customers because people have to buy a huge chunk of games from Steam anyway. So why use this other store with a worse procedure to install games? Oh, I "own" this copy of Turok.They're failing, and they're begging for donations in your shopping cart.>>719372161Olá, senhor! Como está o Brasil nesta época do ano?
>>719371783GOG wholly getting rid of a DRM-free requirement would be a PR nightmare. Also most games on Steam can be easily cracked anyway unless they use Denuvo; I can't imagine publishers don't know this. I still think the biggest problem is people won't use GOG because they want as many games as possible all in one place on Steam (even old games that don't really make use of Steam's features). And there are only so many exclusives GOG can get to attract people to use the store. (Plus EGS giving away so many games for free has surely affected GOG too.)
>>719372232Steam was years ahead of everyone else and pretty much built a monopoly, that's not going to change easily or quickly either way. But the way things are now, at least some people will buy at least some of their games on Gog because they want to support their policies (as I do for example). If they dropped those, there would literally be no reason for anyone to buy something there over Steam.
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>>719372332Even if a game is easily cracked, the fact that the DRM exists (and they can use their own) is comforting to them. And yes, allowing DRM now would be even worse for them. They just chose to fight a battle they never should have fought. When it originally started, it was about ancient games getting patched to run on modern systems. That still exists, but they try to sell modern stuff as well. There's absolutely no reason to buy No Man's Sky on there and wait for patches to get released (that I have to install manually) when I could get it on Steam, and the frequent patching (at least in the past. Not sure how it is now) happens automatically and as soon as they release them.>>719372467It's not really a monopoly because there's literally no competition. Epic is the only store with a library that compares, and the app is like pulling teeth.GOG has no games, and never will. Their launcher is the same as Epic in interface style.MS has games, but not enough, and both store apps (MS Store and Xbox pull from the same library) leave a lot to be desired.Battle.net has Diablo, Diablo 2, and Diablo 4. That's it.Ubisoft has no games and might shut down in the forseeable future.EA is Epic/Galaxy/Ubisoft Connect, but publisher restricted.By contrast, Steam has:>slim interface in small mode, and not too terrible in large mode>Remote Play>Remote Play together (play local coop shit over the intarwebs)>family sharing that includes the vast majority of titles (this is fucking huge)>Steam Inputand a bunch of other stuff I forget off the top of my head. Nobody wants to emulate that. They just want to bitch about muh monopoly and the fact that nobody wants to buy games from them instead of an obviously superior option.
>>719372801Eh, Gog obviously is behind Steam, but saying they have no games is bullshit. They certainly do have a smaller selection and especially lack in many modern big AAA releases, but they do have lots of AA or indie stuff. Since I've started attempting to buy shit on Gog whenever possible, around 3 out of 4 times I find that a game I want to buy is availabe there. Although I imagine it can vary depending on what sort of titles you're into
>>719370208If they were kikes they would have hired 1000 indians and paid them jack shit.
>>719358882I literally only use it for the free games
>>719369628>I don't care about the opinions of chinks and third worlders.t. Indian/Mexican immigrant who's pretending he's White. Anyone who starts randomly sperging about "3rd worlders" instead of just calling people brown out of nowhere is a twitter engagement farmer.
>>719373559Being a racist was how you used to get clout in rightoid circles so now you have indians with statue avatars pretening they're a white turbochud to legitimize their shill posts.
>>719372801Remember that GOG was founded when stuff like Starforce still existed, plus they were taking stuff that was already DRM-free on abandonware and piracy sites. I do agree that GOG never should have dropped the Good Old Games focus or acronym meaning, but a poll they made had like 70+% people in favor of GOG releasing new games too.GOG's worst problem is lazy devs who won't update their games in a reasonable time frame.
