Are there any games with the feel of pic rel? I just finished the first half, and I love the idea of a surreal science fantasy game where the protagonist runs into surreal scenarios and dreamlike characters in an alien feeling world.
you just want to fuck jolentai have never played a game that made me feel the way this book made me feel
>>719377024I'm more of an Agia guyI know she never actually wanted to be with Severian, but I would rather be with a comely but cute woman over a knockout. Anyways, I think Morrowind kind of hits the last point I made, but there aren't enough surreal feeling quests in there.
>>719376958Final Fantasy is actually partially inspired by this. Amano did the book covers for Japanese version and there is Terminus Est in one of the games.
If you change a few words around in the infamous pasta, you get Black Souls 2
Every character you meet in the story turns up again, hundreds of miles away, to reveal that they are someone else and have been secretly controlling the action of the plot. It feels like the entire world is populated by about fifteen people who follow the narrator around wherever he goes. If the next two books continue along the same lines, then the big reveal will be that the world is entirely populated by no more than three superpowered shapeshifters.Everyone in the book has secret identities, secret connections to grand conspiracies, and important plot elements that they conveniently hide until the last minute, only doling out clues here and there. There are no normal people in this world, only double agents and kings in disguise. Every analysis I've read of this book mentions that even the narrator is unreliable.This can be an effective technique, but in combination with a world of infinite, unpredictable intrigue, Wolfe's story begins to evoke something between a soap opera and a convoluted mystery novel, relying on impossible and contradictory scenarios to mislead the audience. Apparently, this is the thing his fans most appreciate about him—I find it to be an insulting and artificial game.There is simply not enough structure to the story to make the narrator's unreliability meaningful. In order for unreliable narration to be effective, there must be some clear and evident counter-story that undermines it. Without that, it is not possible to determine meaning, because there's nowhere to start: everything is equally shaky.At that point, it's just a trick—adding complexity to the surface of the story without actually producing any new meaning. I know most sci-fi and fantasy authors seem to love complexity for its own sake, but it's a cardinal sin of storytelling: don't add something into your story unless it needs to be there. Covering the story with a lot of vagaries and noise may impress some, but won't stand up to careful reading.
i read this while playing alot of rimworld, the sword fantasy / ancient sci-fi feeling is definitely there in vanilla but especially so with a few mods
>>719377024this but dorcas
Reddit says Torment: Tides of Numenera Is like it
>>719378012I don't see it. I looked up Terminus Est on the FF wiki, and couldn't find anything. Also, FF is too played straight to be like this.
>>719376958Path of Exile
>>719378427I guess it's an ability instead of a sword.https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Terminus_Est
>>719376958Kenshi is very sun-pilledI also heard Caves of Qud also has some of its vibe but I haven't played that yet
Fuck that. What are some games with the feel of pic related?
>>719378174kill yourself Keely
>christcuck propaganda #9047yaaaawwwnnnn
>>719376958I read it like 30 years ago and didn't like it at all(not I understand it). Then I reread it quite recently alongside with other Wolfe novels and I still don't like it. I appreciate it but I don't like it at all. I think its my last favorite Wolfe book that I read. Not that its bad, its just sometimes make me really uncomfortable.
>>719378750This and then Short sun I liked. Didn't expect much but in the end I liked both of series.Still my fav is pic related.
>>719376958BoTNS is unadaptable. So much of it is based around Severian being either stupid, a liar or omitting the full truth
>>719376958>>719378717Caves of Qud is more than just vibes. The devs have talked a lot about how much BotNS is in there.
>>719381145it's a shame the prose is gibberish compared to Wolfe's
the night land is better
Is this thread filled with retarded niggers or what?
>>719381958no, just zoomers
>>719378750Colony Ship - A Post-Earth Role Playing GameThat's the closest you'll get.
>>719379880It's more based on the world feeling rather than outright narrative.
>>719377024>>719377772Dorkas bros, Where we at?
>>719376958Age of Decadence, definitelyCaves of Qud too despite the devs being cucksDark Sun>>719378750Colony Ship for this like the other anon said
>>719376958name a single game where you can fuck and possibly impregnate your grandmother
>>719376958boys i'm on a date with this girl i like and i wanna tell her a story my former oneitis but she said no. what do i do?
>>719382937tell her anyways, who gives a shit she's probably a whore
was it rape?
>>719383041Is this guy's book out yet?
>>719376958ENA BBQ
>>719381218>it's a shame the prose is gibberish compared to Wolfe'sI mean, that's setting the ceiling as your barrier for entry. Wolfe has arguably the best genre writing.
Kneelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7TXKZ1C0FUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKK3ksgRqkI
>>719376958I was working on adapting BotNS into a fully playable adventure module for SillyTavern. Finished Shadow & Claw.
>>719376958I got bored and stopped reading it somewhere between the trip to the library where he’s supposed to deliver something and the visit to the prostitute.
>>719383041one can only hope
>>719384131you stopped at the beginning.
>>719384131The library is the best part.
idk but not dark souls
>>719376958Planescape: Torment is the closest thing I can come up with.
>>719376958Genshin Impact is pretty close to it in feeling, but you have to appreciate slow burn of a story and dig into details. Its a game world that is far stranger the more you pay attention to it.
>>719387868eehh.....
>>719384613>why are "gift" and "now" the same word?Severian is endearing.
>>719376958I'm gonna go ahead and assume this is the marvel of fantasy with how often there are new sun threads and how little any other fantasy/scifi.
>>719389712Wheel of Time is the marvel of fantasy.The reason this is loved is because Gene Wolfe is considered "based" by anons literate enough to read or receive lore secondhand.
>>719389712See >>719378174
>>719378174>In order for unreliable narration to be effective, there must be some clear and evident counter-story that undermines it.Severian claims to possess edietic memory, but on numerous occasions he not only misremembers things, but recalls them wrong.
>>719390385Its because his memory is warped on account of absording the memories, personalities, past lives of countless others, becoming a messianic figure by the end of the last book, including travelling through time.
>>719378174>pseudointellectual word vomitIts fine if you didn't like the book or if you didn't understand it. Most anons don't even read so if you did read even a little then that's great!The story is going to peak around book 3, though book 4 has some cozy moments it starts to feel like Wolfe doesn't really know how to wrap it up and book 5 contrasts so much with the others I only recommend it to those who truly like his writing.It is popular on 4chan so I can understand feeling contrarian about it.
>>719390385>>719378174Severian's unreliability is one of my favorite takes on the concept, because his personality and biases tint every word of narration. Severian tries to emphasize points he thinks are relevant, and ignore ones he thinks don't matter or he's uncomfortable with, so there's multiple points where Severian hones in one something we the audience can figure is a surface-level distraction, and he misses the really significant revelation happening in front of him. One of my favorite moments in the series is Severian's description of how he executed Agia's brother. If you purely go off how Severian describes the event, he comes off as clinical, professional, and flawlessly competent. But after the execution he includes a conversation with Dorcas where she's essentially comforting him and saying he looks sick, which is enough to imply that the execution was not as smooth as Severian tries to demonstrate.
>>719391341>>pseudointellectualBro there's nothing intelectual ir pseudointellectual in what that anon just said, His crítique was pretty leveled and coherent, seems to me that you got asshurt because he insulted your favorite book but you don't know how to actually respond to His critique so you went to the "pseudointellectual"meme to cope
>>719383041Tits and thighs not big enough.She's supposed to look like she can't even walk.>>719384613I think that is probably when the book "clicks"
>>719377772Greetings, fellow White Man.
>>719392163>tfw you realize what the 17 Megatherians are
>>719378306What else has reddit been saying? Personally I don't visit the site so I have no idea, except when redditors like yourself bring news.
I would like a Latro game that utterly mogs Hades and saves the rogueslop genre. He's an amnesiac so restarting has a nice in-world explanation. Ideally it would take place in Babylon or another oriental location, fulfilling the promise of the final book the Wolfster never wrote.
>>719376958In terms of style, KenshiIn terms of sustenance its another bible/gilgamesh retelling, you can choose most jrpgs really, anon mentioning Final Fantasy was on point
>>719392770i don't. idc if i'm a fag for this, but wolfe is the one thing i want gatekept to the format it is.i genuinely don't want repressed zoomers ruining the image of peace, fifth head etc with their supposed "media literacy."
>>719393032I agree. Book of the New Sun gets brought up on /tv/ a lot too, as if people want to push for some kind of adaptation but I know it'll just be overall ruined if so.There really is a lot of content that should belong solely to the literate and not the masses.
>>719393032>>719393194I'm talking about a hypothetical video game. It has nothing to do with your fantasy where reddit (or whoever) infiltrates your secret book club. You people are fucking idiots.
>>719393223>talk about hypotheticals>people continue to talk about hypotheticals over hypotheticals>literally get mad in responsecome on now
>>719393265Fuck off, my good retard!
>>719376958Age of Decadence, definitely (for the dying Earth-like setting).Cave of Qud for the writing.
>>719393346u mad
>>719382841The SimsCK
>>719393194>push for some kind of adaptationFuck that
>>719390801That was happening even before the end of the third book.>>719391497It also makes sense given his occupation as a torturer and an executioner, he was taught not to have feelings, which is obviously not something a non-brain damaged human being can do, so instead he choose not to mention them in his recollections, despite appearing outwardly shaken at the time.
Kenshi world, but there are no npcs so it's massively lacking in characters and world buildingHollow knight really does feel dreamlike but it's all insects so that dampens the effect a little.>>719378306Idk about tides of numenera but the 90s torment game does feel like it. Planescape torment is its name iirc
>>719393719Yes, you have enraged me.
>>719394369Time for a judicial duel?
>>719378750the secret best in the seriesor short sun i like both equally
>>719394876Long Sun and Short Sun are nowhere near as good as New Sun. Stop being insecure and thinking you have to like less popular things to feel special.
>>719395038I love the whole Cycle and maybe New Sun is objectively the best part, but theres just something about Long and Short that I just enjoy more.Silk is one of my favourite protagonists ever
>>719395156Silk suffers from>meets someone>5 minutes later>you are now the most important person to me and we share a bond that extends beyond life and death
>>719391341his critique is wrong on many accounts but at least it's argued, on the other hand your post say absolutely nothing of substance
>>719395259yeah and his charisma is so fucking high that it also worked on me the reader
>>719395293kek
>>719395292>but at least it's arguedThat's a years and years old copypasta
>>719395391I'm aware. It still contains arguments.
>>719393032Yeah I agree. After seeing what YouTube video essays did to the discourse regarding Blood Meridian where overnight everybody became an expert on a book that's decently difficult to actually read I wouldn't want the same to happen to Wolfe. I do wish more people discovered more good literature on their own though, even on /lit/ it's hard to have a good conversation.
>>719395259You mock it, but there are people that charismatic.
>>719395293>>719395716I meant the 3rd line to be Silk. As in Silk is willing to die and go to the ends of the Earth to help everyone he meets treating them as very important to him.
>>719395458trannyguments*
I'm tired of pretending this is good.
>>719384265Someone was autistic enough to draw this. Fucking based.
Battle Brothers and Mount and Blade no longer scratch the itch. I want to be a mercenary in the service of evil.
>>719376958Xenoclash
>>719396086It was never meant to be good, you see.
>>719396408a eunuch in service of one bitchy woman after another more like.
>>719396408>I want to be a mercenary in the service of evil.
>>719396408You can already be that, go ahead and sign up for Ukraine.
>>719396408Menace will be out before 2026 and you can be a dick.
>>719376958The most similar games to a Gene Wolfe book, in my opinion:Myst / Riven / AbductionOcarina of TimePanzer Dragoon SagaSacrifice
