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Apologize.

Genuinely, how can Starfield, Elite Dangerous, and Scam Citizen even compete at this point? You can now build your own walkable ships in No Man’s Sky with space legs. They’ve continuously provided major updates and improvements to their game for free for years, going way beyond the initially hollow promises

>Elite is great, but it lacks customizability, and I fucking NEED to be able to walk around my krait
>Starborn is fucking dead and abandoned by Bethesda
>Scam Citizen is stillborn. A buggy mess that will literally never even release
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>>719379792
The universe in NMS is uninteresting as shit.
If I want a good space game I'll play Freelancer for the millionth time instead.
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>>719379852
You can't even buy Freelancer anymore
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>>719379852
Starsector is my favorite space game of all time, but it scratches a different itch than games like no man’s sky or elite dangerous. If you haven’t tried it, I would highly recommend
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>>719379881
I bought it on release
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>>719379792
Ship interiors in NMS is nice and all, but I just never actually cared for ANY of the ships in that game.
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>>719379792
>You can now build your own walkable ships in No Man’s Sky with space legs
What? you mean like... the freighters..? I stopped following NMS after the outlaws update
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>>719379881
So the game is free and thus superior is what you're saying?
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>>719379792
But I'm assuming the grind to get that is very extensive. Resource grinds for everything else were always pretty bad.
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>>719380080
No they have “corvettes” now that you can build piece by piece and land on planets. It’s similar to starfield in terms of building, but there’s a lot more freedom to your designs and you can leave the ship in space
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>>719379792
There anything in this game that I can actually put in my ship that would make me want to walk in it? Arcade systems? TVs where I can actually watch youtube or something? Maybe have pets or a crew that walk around and can interact with?
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>>719379852
Amazing how after all this time only one whole game was aware enough to copy Freelancer.
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>>719380287
crew is planned for a future update, but besides that, you can have hydroponic plants, storage boxes that link up to freighter storage boxes, refiner units, and a mission board to pick up missions without going to the anomaly
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>>719380287
Pretty sure you can build everything you put into an outpost onto a ship. I’ve seen some pretty wild builds
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>>719380189
Is it just another moveable base-build option then?

Not trying to be cynical nor sarcastic btw, just trying to figure out if whatever's new might be worth revisiting the game. So far it sounds like a few steps more customizable than a freighter.
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>>719380552
It's not worth reinstalling. The core loop is still rock shooting.
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Yeah but like, it looks and runs like shit, and you spend your time running uncomfortably through endless terrain to zap rocks and plants to gather glowing orbs in square stacks. Stack them in your bag, your ship, your base, your bigger ship, your bigger base, your station, your mech, your pet, and now your even bigger ship you made yourself.

Woopte fucking doo
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cool
still fucking liars and scammers who kept up the lying even after the release proved they were full of shit
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>>719380552
If you like the idea of customizing your own ship like starfield and walking around inside of it then I think it’s worth revisiting.

Also depends on how long ago you’ve played. They have revamped a lot of systems in the game over time so it could be very different

The new ships are way better than the freighters in my opinion. Freighters are still barebones and need a revamp honestly
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When is Sean Murray going to apologise for deliberately scamming people? It's been 9 years now. He's taking that one to the grave isn't he...
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>>719379852
>The universe in NMS is uninteresting as shit.
You say that while E:D exists, a completely empty void with a few rocks to mine
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>>719380891
He didn't mention E:D at all.
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>>719380904
I never said he did, don't skip your lessons Rajesh.
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Can you fuck hot aliens yet though? Xenophilia is an essential part of the space fantasy. If we ever went out to space for real there would be a lot of alien fucking going on Im just sayin
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>decide to replay game after hating it at launch
>it's the exact same fucking game where I'm shooting rocks and do the exact same thing I did years ago
Fuck this game and fuck all of you
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>>719380980
I don't think this game even has a girl in it.
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>>719380582
I think it looks pretty good, especially after they’ve updated the graphics and added new water physics.

They’ve also added plenty of ways to get around the planets. You can boil down any game into the basic mechanics and make it sound dumb. It’s an exploration game with combat and building. Even at its worst it still has more content than literally any of its competitors.

>>719380643
>>719380856
The game has over delivered on the initial promises. He shouldn’t have to apologize for anything at this point. All the updates have been free
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>>719380991
I mean that's what you do in space sims. You're asking for a space opera like mass effect instead. Some people however just want to travel the stars and explore.
https://youtu.be/LhfCietvDZo?si=8lh5nKyPXSbhK4Mx
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>>719381086
Firstly, no it hasn't. Sean was promising a dynamic game where you can do basically anything. Secondly, he'll never apologise because he scammed people, scamming people and giving them random trinkets over the course of years doesn't make up for your original scam.
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>>719381096
>I mean that's what you do in space sims.
I get that you've only ever played No Man's Sky, but my god shut the fuck up.
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>>719381193
Anon you also do trade and ship building and exploration. The game has added a ton of features since its "engoodening" phase back in 2018. Compared to say elite dangerous where you're just stuck with the space ship aspect.
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>>719381189
He literally did not say any of those things. He lied about multiplayer stuff like giant sand worms and stuff like a dynamic economy. Literally every single thing he lied about being in the game has now been implemented, with tons of other stuff added in. They’ve also completely revamped multiple core systems of the game since release

>>719381193
Are there other real competitors besides Starfield, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen? Because the planets in those games are astonishingly boring
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>>719381465
>Are there other real competitors besides Starfield, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen?
There are plenty of spaceship games out there that are better, objectively. Even X4 is better. Fuck, even Spacebourne 2 is better.
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The gameplay is shit though. It tries to do a lot of things and fails in almost all of them.

The devs refuse to make interesting combat or interesting locations.
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>>719379792
I can
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>>719381189
Youre right, but at least the studio stuck with the project. Which is what it was on release, an unfinished project. We'll see how their next game goes, I'm curious about it.
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Have they fixed the VR in this game yet? I have a decent PC with a 7800xt and 5800x3d and I can play any other VR game fine except this one. Its buggy and runs so bad its literally unplayable
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The funny thing is the whole stupid shooting rocks thing could be overcome if they bothered to do anything with the actual procgen of the worlds. Make it so that can progress via dungeon crawling rather than shooting rocks.
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>>719379792
Starfail works better.
I don't think of stillborn first thing when i hear Starborn.
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>>719381534
>there are plenty of spaceship games out there that are objectively better
1. I don’t believe you, because the genre is full of actual burning garbage, but 2. What games do you think are better? I understand there are better space games, but there are none that scratch the itch of a first person spaceship game where you can walk around your own ship and explore planets.

>X4
Can’t walk around on planets at all
>spacebourne 2
Looks like asset flip eurojank. I’m sure it’s fine, but it looks like it needs polish

I also want to be clear, I don’t think no mans sky is the perfect game or anything. It has a lot of flaws. The genre is just so full of garbage that I think not much can compete
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>>719381927
Never tried it myself, but I did see that they improved CPU performance for VR. Don't know if that means they fixed it though
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>>719381940
Starfield is one of the most disappointing games I’ve played. It had so much potential that was fucked by Bethesda. Their retarded story made it impossible to mod into a good sandbox. It’s so fucking BLAND. The writing is so so bad. It’s just not fun. The only cool part of the game is boarding enemy ships and killing the crew in zero gravity, but fuck Bethesda made ship combat boring as fuck. You also can’t do jack shit in the ship
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>>719382172
>Can’t walk around on planets at all
Here's a revelation: space games don't fucking need that.
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>>719380841
>The new ships are way better than the freighters in my opinion
How so, anon? Or is it just because you can build them part by part?
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>>719382172
I need a survival/rpg game where I start crashlanded on a hostile desert planet in an uncharted galaxy and have to scavenge ruins and wrecks to cobble together parts for a ship to get off planet. Then from there upgrade it to go further distances and have it branch out into a focus on trying to discover where I am, fighting aliens, and trying to get home.

NMS is the closest to that but is too easy, lacks a narrative, and just doesn't have much interesting to explore.
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>>719382379
Being able to walk around a planet, board your walkable ship, and then fly to your walkable space station seamlessly cool as fuck. It makes me wish star citizen didn’t suck, and Elite Dangerous allowed you to walk in your ship or have interesting planets

You’re right that not every space game needs to have those features. Games like Starsector, Freelancer, Rebel Galaxy, or even Stellaris are great, but they don’t scratch the same itch
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Give me ideas for my coverette
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i backed underspace instead, no regrets
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>>719380991
Hello Games ran one of the most successful marketing campaigns ever. Then it failed and everyone hated them. Then they ran another one of the best marketing campaigns ever by telling everyone it's good now.
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>>719381640
If they didn't stick with the project then Sean would have had to just leave the gaming industry and become an accountant or something. What he did wasn't noble it was just saving his own arse.
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>>719382743
I think they just had a community quest thing where you start like that on a gas giant, where it’s a little more difficult to get a ship and leave. NMS would benefit from more of a real narrative for sure. The story is good enough for what it is: a small motivation to move around, explore, and enter the new universe. It’s like Minecraft

Hopefully someone will eventually make something that can live up to those ideas. There is still nothing game that has gotten everything right
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>>719379792
NMS is still horribly shallow with one of the least immersive item/inventory systems around, they keep tacking stuff onto it without developing any depth or interesting synergy with older content. Literally the only interesting thing about this update is the fact it came from tech developed for Light No Fire. I wonder if they're planning crewed airships for that game.
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>>719382856
Looks interesting. I’ll check out the demo
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>>719382743
The only thing close to that really is Empyrion Galactic Survival but its pretty jank and there is no going home, just become an interstellar nomad with factions you can build rep with. It's kind of fun though to go from nothing but an escape pod to building a fuckhueg capital ship that can hold smaller craft and land vehicles.
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>>719383051
Sean said that there will at least be ships for the oceans.

Would be sick to have airships though. Hopefully they add both
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>>719383168
You play it with the Eden Reforged 2 mod.
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>>719382851
EVE online model viewer. Still some of the best designs ever made
https://gamemodels3d.com/games/eveonline
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2025
Still the best
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>>719380090
That it deserves to be a free game on the Microsoft game store at the very least.
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>>719383630
Well until such time
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/freelancer-bbb
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apologize for what the hatred was deserved at launch. i will give them credit for turning their game eventually what was promised but it did take another 9 years
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>>719382856
buy an ad
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>>719379792
>>how can Starfield, Elite Dangerous, and Scam Citizen even compete
>how can an rpg, spacesim and spacesim compete with a survival game?
Dunno. Both NFS and Max Payne happen on city streets. Are they competitors?
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>>719383669
>literally dolphin porn
cool thanks
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>>719379792
I'd probably like NMS if I owned it but I don't
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>>719383751
You're welcome
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>>719383697
sorry meant to reply to >>719379792
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when its on sale for under 5 bucks i might get it eventually
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>>719383897
sorry, back again, I actually meant to replay to >>719383697, sorry for any misunderstanding that this may have caused.
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>>719384238
>replay to
Damn, the NMS shilling campaign was done by pajeets this whole time?
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>>719379852
This is the worst part of NMS.

>>719379792
To answer OP's question: The way they can compete is by making as legitimately more interesting universe to explore. It's true, at this point, NMS is the most feature complete. It has the most functions, mechanics, etc, that people want. But as anon pointed out, the actual setting is quite bland. This isn't really a problem if all you want to do is gather resources, build bases, find cool "looking" planets, and build space ships.

The problem is that it's surface level.

NMS can be competed with by doing what it is doing, but with a more interesting setting. The problem is, I don't think anyone else is even matching the technical functions for a one time 60usd fee (to be fair I got it on sale for 10) - let alone doing what it's doing and creating a more interesting setting to explore.

I don't know what form that will take. Heck, perhaps Hello Games will just reboot their universe with a better setting at some point. I doubt they are ignorant to the issue.
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>>719384304
>No Saar's Sky
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>>719382704
not him.
its a cross between a regular ship and a freighter.
not as fast or maneuverable as a regular ship, but you can slap freighter storage on them
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>>719380991
>wtf bros I just booted up terraria and I'm just digging dirt
>this must be all there is to the game
>surely the game doesn't change at all once I'm past the tutorial
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>>719379792
There's zero exploration, every planet is pretty much the same. If you've seen one planes you've seen them all.
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>>719379792
game still isn't fun and revolves around picking up rocks for 24 hours straight i think they need to apologize to me personally for hyping this dogshit up
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>>719383595
truth nukem no space game has beaten it ever. if i had a space game like X3 but with FS2 combat i would be in heaven
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>>719381052
Yeah, literally 100% of all characters in the game are they/them other than, uh... Void or whatever her name is being referred to as a "her".

>>719380980
Nah. Plus the anomalies, (you), don't even get out of their suits ever in canon, I think.
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>>719379792
They're all garbage games so I don't see what's the point.

>play NMS
>extremely cucked main story which basically says here's things, you have to do this, you have no choice because you are a fucking bitch
>space traveling civilization but you have to go around looking for rocks to learn 1 word of some aliens language at a time
>base building has no depth, it has no automation, no npc management, 95% of it is just cosmetics that you can't do anything with and whatever you unlocks is really shallow, several of the basic passive resource generator are still bugged to this day and will just randomly reset and delete all the resources they generated
>so called "exploration" is going to "infinite" samey planets and scanning the 2-6 animals on it, pray to god that the subterrain ones don't get glitched and never spawn
>power progression past the first 8 hours is just doing the same quests over and hoping that the reward gacha rolled a module with the right substats you want and with higher numbers
>combat mechanics are fucking dogshit

It's such an incredibly shallow game, basically starfield before before starfield released
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>>719379792
What is the point of Corvettes and big ships when there are the massive ships already
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>>719379792
>It's okay to scam people, if you over the course of several years, slowly adds small bits of what you promised was going to be there at launch

There was never any engoodening. Just retards defending literal scammers. Just like with cyberpunk
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No man's sky is pure shit and people who love it are cookie clicker fans. Not a single element in the game can be used to make anything interesting except storage space for shit you don't need.
Build an underwater base, what the fuck for?
So you can collect blue squares that are used to do something uninteresting...
How the fuck do people like this game.
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>>719387306
Terraria:
Dig dirt to build something interesting or open paths to find something interesting.
NMS:
Point laser at stuff to collect resources so you can use the laser more effectively.
Notice the difference?
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>>719379792
Did they ever overhaul how colonies work or is it still mobile-tier minigame where you wait for timers to go down and don't get to build anything yourself? Can you at least have more than 1 yet?
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>>719383051
>Light No Fire
I don't have much hope for it. If they couldn't figure out how to make gameplay with any depth after 9 years what are the odds they'll crack the code now?
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>>719379792
It doesn't matter how many bells and whistles they add it all sounds like an incoherent mess with they all start ringing at the same time. That's what this game is. Good that they didn't just take the money and run but that doesn't mean you can't be critical of what is delivered. Every update dumps in more shit that doesn't connect well with anything else they dump in and often has completely invalidated the purpose previous updates. Despite everything they have done the core of the game is still resource gathering and dumping into pointless shit. There's no guiding light.
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>>719387306
You dig dirt to get better gear to eventually take on the dungeons and bosses. Each boss beaten helps you progress to a harder boss until you reach the mid game boss which completely changes the world. Then you have a whole new selection of bosses to go through and various builds and gear until you beat the final boss.

no mans sky you dig resources so you can get better at digging resources. The End.
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>>719379792
>going way beyond the initially hollow promises
My major grievance has always been the standard flora items you can find on every planet. They should have unique forms. You should discover the minerals or whatever you need by scanning the plants.
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It's a good game but it's a shame that the community is retarded and actually wants FOMO in a sandbox game.
The majority of the hand crafted content, purposely built to be fun and give direction, is time gated. For some reason the community thinks that this is a good thing and pushes back against you for suggesting otherwise.
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>>719392919
At least on PC you can bypass that and play all the old shit. Cucksole players are fucked but who cares about them lmao.
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>>719387306
Murray didn't send his brightest, run out of fund and has to send the pajeet I see
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>>719393214
No argument, i accept your poosession.
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I only played Elite Dangerous, but I quit because once my internet connection dropped and I was kicked out of single player mode. I find that unacceptable.
Anyway, that game at least tries to create a simulation, you have some depth to explore in terms of how your ship works, defense and attack maneuvers, things like that.
No Man's Sky is just a mobile-tier game. There is no depth in any aspect. It's a game for normalfags to play with friends while chatting about the latest Netflix series they watched on Discord.
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>>719379792
>reinstall NMS just to check out the new updates
>get to the part of the tutorial where you get the hyperdrive plans from the crashed freighter
>try to get to it by jumping over the ship
>fall through it and get stuck inside, forcing me to reload
I thought they finished it? Not even Starfield was this bad?
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>>719379792
ED/SC are really just for the HOTAS crowd. I don't think many devs realise how huge this market is, and how deep (and lacking in braincells) their wallets are.

They will hold on and linger around even while NMS pulls ahead in content, just because NMS can't do proper flight.
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>>719392919
They don't have any micro or dlcs
FOMO is an incentive to purchase it now or return to it and make posts
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How does it work? Magic?
I can understand "dematerialization" but where and how is it stored?
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>>719379792
>Elite Dangerous
You can walk around in your ships now.

Off topic: What's the best medium size allrounder ship? Something like the anaconda, a jack of all trades but a master of none. I don't need it to be the best bounty hunter, I don't need it to be the best transport, I don't need it to be the best smuggler, I don't need it to be the best miner. But it should do all of them to at least a mediocre level.
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>>719391995
Because they clearly light-dropped no man's sky and are basically using it as a beta test for light no fire, which is less ambitious and will be built from the ground based on what they learned with nms. I'm at least curious.
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Why do they never bother to tie any of these new features very deeply into any other part of the game?
I'm surprised you can even land this shit in a space station, honestly
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>>719387306
Terraria
>Dungeons, bosses, secret levels, hundreds of weapons, gear and things to see, has so much content that faggots complain that it has too much content.
No Man's Sky
>Mine rocks, so you can fill this bar so you can fly around a empty space to mine for more rocks to fill more bars, and then you get a robot..that you use to mine rocks to fill bars.


Yep, the same thing...
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>>719379792
Nigger you don't even land your ship in the game.
It's just press button to land. No managing speed or angle or landing gear.
And the whole game is like this. Cool concepts but boring as fuck execution.
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>>719379792
because the main mining gameplay loop is fundamentally still shit
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>>719398241
>>719398157
>>719398091
>>719397926
>the children yearn for dark souls bosses and linear progression to hold their hands and allocate dopamine
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>>719398425
I'd like more than just stacking blocks in space. Its like a duplo space game.
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>>719398157

It's an arcade game with simulation and survival elements. It's not really a space simulator.
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>>719398425
>recurs in to personal attacks after losing in arguments.
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>>719398795
And its fucking booiring
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>>719398425
>>the children yearn for
Good games, absolutely. Unfortunately NSM is not good or a game.
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>>719398425
nms is literally a ton of linear progression
quest lines, micro crafting, ascending equipment tiers
The only fucking thing in the game that isn't linear is which direction you travel if you decide not to follow any of the paths
And yes, a sci-fi game based largely around either on-foot exploration with a gun or space exploration in a fighter is always improved by having good combat
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I wish most of the planets had a little more distance from each other, and animal life was harder to find.
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That doesn't change the fact that the entire gameplay core revolves around holding LMB on a rock to collect minerals
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>>719402592
That bothers me a lot, I dislike how most of the planets have life in them. It's virtually impossible to find life in every solar system irl for not saying that it's impossible for a single galaxy to contain life in them.
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i'm not seeing a whole lot of custom corvette on this thread
even plebbitors are more creative than you miserable faggots
post some custom corvettes
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>>719380891
So E:D is boring so that means NMS is not?
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>you can't do this very simple thing in saarfield despite the infinite budget of microsoft
>you also can't enter/exit planets seamlessly (this was in nms even in the pitiful state it initially released in in 2016
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>>719379792
No Man's Sky is at the point that it's genuinely impressive what Hello Games achieved. I had already been impressed with their work as of last year or the year before that/ the update that finally added the big space ship battles. I mean no one actually should apologize for how they delivered the game on release, but it really is one of the greatest comeback stories of all time. Most of us older games have been burned way harder by developers who lied about their games initial pitch or idea. And you know what those devs in the past did? they did absolutely nothing and just left that half complete idea for what it was. Just took the money and ran. So it's strange when you see older gamers even being cynical about Hello Game's story in general.
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this is the only picture of mine that i have.
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Did the update break mods again?
Im not reinstalling if it broke my modlist
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>>719403003
...and wtf are you going to do in a corvette? flex it?
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>>719395330
>It's a game for normalfags to play
holy shit, i'm finally normal??? i'm free???
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>>719381189
>Should I reward people in society who attempt to do the right thing to encourage the behavior in the future?
>NO! THEY WRONGED ME ONCE!!!
You are mentally stunted.
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>>719379792
Compete with what? Years and years of engine and tweak updates, new features, combat and the game still manages to be the barren, tepid, boring and empty fucking experience it was on day one.

Shit fucking sucks, no matter how much industrial equipment you use to polish that turd.
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Can Haulers be turned into literal space trucks yet?
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Fucking play Astroneer and abandon this dull garbage.
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>>719403498
you can build one from scratch now, does that count?
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>>719403232
>>719403351
Can you skydive from orbit like that?
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>apologize
>game that was a scam for years
>adds cheap content on top of unfixed gameplay loop
>players went 9 years without ship interiors
>I was supposed to just "deal with that"
All while playing in the most soulless universe ever created?
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>>719403638
Yes, and your character has an actual freefalling animation now
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>>719403417
Mostly space trucking with a comfy podcast in the background
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What do you do in this game? I don’t really care about building bases
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>>719403498
READ NIGGA READ
you can build a custom corvette that you can fly (unlike freighters) and you can make them pretty big too
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>>719403863
collect rocks, and when you get enough rocks you upgrade your pistol so you can collect better rocks to upgrade your pistol more so you can collect better rocks
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>>719403863
Lots of space things and exploration
Read the game updates logs on the game website to get a quick grasp of it
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>>719403947
There better be nice big BLOCK units so I can make it look like a brick or I will kick your ass
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>>719403232
It's impressive when people say this. NMS is only able to accomplish all of this due to worthless low quality content. There's not much to load. Low quality plants, rocks, alien models and all with limited to no functionality? Of course its easy to do things in NMS. You're not loading in AI packages with aliens. There's not condense areas with a hundred containers and interactive objects. Not really any emergent gameplay as nothing interacts with each other, POIs with less detail than BotW's POIs. Have nothing to track, not much to do with very low intensity functionality from the game. No wonder the game can load the 2mb planets.
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>>719379792
This update utterly BTFOd Starfield
And to be honest even before that update, NMS was already far beyond Starfield
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>>719404070
Does this count?
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>>719404171
Hell yeah
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>>719404093
I'm sorry Todd, but Saarfield no longer satisfies and never even did to begin with
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>>719404206
This is where the fun begins
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>>719404237
>assumes everyone else is dumpster diving for entertainment
Why is this the consistent defense from NoManFags? They can never defend the shallow features and simply assume you're from some rival camp because who could possibly be dislike NMS?
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>>719404237
By the way Sean is 6'10"
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>>719403459
No, you're a maladjusted autist like all of us here. But you play some bad games from time to time, just like normalfags do.
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>>719404505
>he's upset that people are making fun of starfield
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>>719404312
EASTBOUND AND DOWN
LOADED UP AND TRUCKIN'
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>>719383595
this but star control 2.
children of infinity better be good. please be good, please please please.
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I wish I had friends to enjoy the new ships with.
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>>719405078
>call both NMS and Starfield the equivalent of dumpster diving
>He must be upset we're making fun of starfield
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>>719404964
aw damn, i thought i was finally free. oh well.
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>>719405224
nta but it's a common shill tactic to present yourself as a 'both sides r bad' type. You attack their game while removing their ability to attack your game back.
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>>719405216
i'm enjoying the new ships without friends.
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>>719405329
>saying starfield is shit must be a shill tactic
The most common opinion on the internet is now a shill tactic conspiracy if it means someone likes NMS? Come on.
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>>719405401
>saying starfield is shit must be a shill tactic
In this context.
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>>719404312
OPTIMUS NO!
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>>719379881
Pirate it but buy it on GOG if it ever shows up.

https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/freelancer
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>>719405498
In the context of no one possibly not liking NMS? That sounds like the real shill tactic.
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>>719404652
ship from star citizen's first trailer?
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>>719380189
Can you make stations that are purely for cooking?
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>>719396557
All matter is information, it transforms the matter into pure information and stores it on a USB drive, then the space CIA knocks down your door for mineral piracy and intent to distribute.
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>>719379792
I'm trying to get into comfy space sims and is NMS worth it?

Last time I checked (years ago)it was cartoony as fuck.

Also Elite Dangerous looks like the only fully serious space sim.
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>>719379792
Let me do space wars
I want to see those big fleets that appear over planets going to war with each other with actual factions taking over certain planets
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>>719379792
It's been almost ten years, dood. Move on. You shouldn't even be playing games anymore
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>>719379792
Every time I try to play it I get repulsed by the atrocious looking inventory system and the ugly icons

There is just something extremely disgusting about it in on a primal level

Like a pure essence of unity crafting asset flip slop
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>>719379852
I hate how cultureless it is
There are all these different alien races but we never see any cities or anything, I get that simulating full cities with inhabitants is beyond the scope but give me some abandoned ones or something. It just ends up feeling like a world inhabited entirely by backpackers.
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worth a revisit? non shill answers only please
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>>719379792
Nah. Besides, isn't this the same as shitfield where you get to the center of the universe then reset progress to do it all over again? Still not sure why they did that.
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>>719405145
I feel you anon so far the updates seems to be going well
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>>719406559
>space sim
It's in no way a sim, if you're looking for realism then NMS doesn't have it. It's heavily stylized and the flying is arcadelike
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>>719403003
>creative
>remakes the millennium falcon
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>>719407563
Shill here. Don’t play it. Paid by Konami btw.
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>>719379792
I've noticed that the only people who still call Star Citizen a scam are third worlders.
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>try to build corvette
>parts just get randomly eaten for no fucking reason
Also it cracks me up that the devs brag about how you can go EVA from your corvette but apparently forgot one of the most basic elements of adding a new feature: YOU NEED A FUCKING REASON TO USE THAT FEATURE
There's absolutely no reason to ever do a space walk. If they added shit like derelicts or abandoned space stations that require a bit of EVA to explore, then it'd be an actually cool addition. Fuck, you can't even dock your corvette on the forcefield docks on your freighter and then make an EVA trip to board your freighter through an airlock or the docking bay. You've got to use the teleporter button on your corvette to board the freighter or use the teleport pad on your freighter to board your corvette. As it stands, right now the only thing to do as far as EVA shit goes is get out and float around your corvette doing fuck all until you get bored and get back in.
It's just one of the many ways Hello.jpg proves how retarded and incompetent they are as developers.
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>>719407563
You were already dumb enough to sink 120 hours into it, so go ahead.
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>>719380339
>crew is planned for a future update
Nta, but are we talking AI crews or multi-player stuff?
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>>719379792
redownloading right now.
I've found the game pretty boring since the start and have tried giving it multiple goes. the grind is a grind and not much more everytime. I want to feel immersed but I feel so aimless everytime. Will I get to make a ship or are there hours of gameplay in order to get to this stage of the game?
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>>719380891
thats realistic, i can go out into spooky space
its really lame how nms is just unrealistically teeming with things everywhere. The joy of discovery is that its rare. Having robots and shit everywhere is just dumb
this is also starfields problem, most of those planets should have been entirely barren apart from maybe a few static points of interest since its not like there are that many planets in starfield that you could find one with out a hermit living on it
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>>719380552
Is it just another moveable base-build option then?
It's basically a freighter you can fly but more cramped, shitty, and you don't get one for free like you do with your first freighter. Also building one is more expensive than it should be because the building mechanics are bugged and parts will sometimes just not be put back in your inventory when you remove them so you often have to buy the same part over and over again.
You can also exit them and float around in space but there's actually no reason to do so.
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>>719403721
i need to fire this up in VR this week
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>>719410639
>there's actually no reason to do so
So like everything else in the game
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>>719410785
Yeah, basically. Hello Games found the perfect formula for selling their game. They release a half baked "major update" that doesn't actually add anything of substance to the game then their retarded fanatical fanbase goes around spouting about how great NMS is and how this update or that update totally fixes every issue in the game and it's now the best game ever made and YOU NEED TO BUY IT RIGHT NOW thus tricking gullible retards into buying the game only to later regret it.



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