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Does Nintendo really think they'll win this lawsuit?
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>>719380770
>the pushback he sees is less and less nintendo is evil

Then what fucking pushback is he seeing? Why does his sentence cut off out of nowhere?
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>>719380770
This fat tub of lard is just a ragebaiter so he can earn money to feed himself.
Nintendo has a case with Aniimo, Palworld, and this game, because they so clearly copy so much shit from Pokemon, most especially the aesthetics. At least Mihoyo was smarter and put autochess into it which might help them fight back a little better. But DokeV is the only upcoming creature "collecting" game that is actually different. And I heard you don't even catch them, you befriend them, so no pokeball patent faggotry here.
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They are likely to win in Japan, because their laws on copyright and rights of the IP holder are fucking nuts.
Anywhere else, no, they probably can't win.
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>>719380770
Is he a snoy?
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>>719380770
I doubt they'll sue them, Nintendo sued Palworld because people were calling it "Pokémon with guns", including large streamers and publications

This is a problem for Pokémon's brand both because it associates it with guns and because the label contributes to the genericization of the Pokémon brand (referring to any creature game as Pokémon) which could lead them to lose the trademark in the future, with the lawsuit mainly being a last resort way to put a wedge between the IPs

Hoyo's game isn't in the same situation currently, and they'll probably push outlets to avoid comparisons so I don't think they'll get sued
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tendies are subhuman
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>>719380770
nintendo can try whatever they want, but they won't be able to do shit against a chinese company multiple times larger than they are
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>>719380770
nintendo has done fuck all to hoyoverse. these niggas are literally fighting ghosts.
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>>719380770
Nintendo is losing against Pocketpair.
What chance do they have against a company not only significantly larger than them but outside of their homeland? Fucking lmao.
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>>719380770
>Nintendo doesn't sue Digimon
>Nintendo doesn't sue SMT
>Nintendo doesn't sue Dragon Quest
>Nintendo doesn't sue Yokai Watch
>Nintendo doesn't sue Azur Promilia
>Nintendo doesn't sue Roco Kingdom
>Nintendo doesn't sue Monster Hunter Stories
OMG IF NINTENDO WINS THE LAWSUIT AGAINST PALWORLD GAMING IS OVER!
THEY ARE EVIL!!! PLEASE HATE THEM! HATE NINTENDO PLEASE PLEASE!!!
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>>719380770
they should sue rockstar, rdr2 let you capture horse and use them as your mount, that's so fucking evil they just stole that idea willy nilly
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>>719381269
you're being too harsh at subhumans
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>>719381479
Nintendo suing SMT and Dragon Quest would be retarded considering they came first. Suing Digimon would also be financial suicide as well given that Bamco makes a lot of their toy merch.
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>>719380770
>grummz
nobody cares about this dramafag
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>>719381264
Everyone called genshin "botw with tits" for years
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>>719381816
According to shitposters nintendo can bend the law to their will, also calling a company evil is dumb because that implies that other companies are not evil, like sony and ms.
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>>719381264
so patent infringement is okay as long as they call it the right way?
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>>719381479
Nintendo also allows straight up Pokemon clones on Nintendo eshop.
They are very selective in their lawsuits, they don't see most creature collectors as competitive threats because their core audience will not stop buying Pokemon games because of indies like Coromon, Monster Sanctuary or Cassette Beasts. However, direct competitors with AAA production values might actually hit their sales among normalfags and chidlren.
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>now
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>>719382112
>They are very selective in their lawsuits, they don't see most creature collectors as competitive threats
You're extremely naive if you believe that's the reason why the patent lawsuit exists in the first place.
Pocketpair's CEO is definitely a Japanese lolcow considering the guy attempted to create an Internet drama and a sob story on Twitter over the lawsuit itself, and take advantage of gaijins being too dumb to understand the Japanese law, despite it serves zero purpose in helping his case anyway. This is the same guy who was openly smug about plagiarizing shit in interviews, owns an inflated ego to believe he's the champion of the indie scene, or deliberately lied about the patents and their dates.
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>>719380770
>now
Nintendo has always been fucking evil.
No one cared back then because the industry was generally healthy and good games were constantly coming out as they grew up and they expected Nintendo to be the good guy while the others went bad because of muh childhood.

Nintendo has a fucking long history of anti consumerism, selling shitty gimmick hardware with no official support and treating third parties like garbage. Nintendo have been sueing people for fucking decades at this point, yet somehow these faggots think this is some crazy new thing.
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>>719382989
I fucking love how people go
>haha the virtual boy XD that was a dud! the 64DD? that was a dud too!
Meanwhile it was Nintendo sent them out to fucking die and expecting consumers to blindly consume them. Their faithful consumers got completely fucked over and they didn't care.
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>>719382989
When you want to build a narrative you misrepresent history. Also notice how they never talk about all the disgusting shit that Sony does, almost as if they were getting paid to ignore them.
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>>719383191
I do not give a single shit about what Sony does. I have not owned a Sony console since the PS2. Their move to completely ignore 95% of their IP roster in favor of shitting out dudebro sports slop has made me lose interest in them.
Nintendo has always been a piece of shit, sure, but I also used to enjoy their games until somewhat recently.
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>>719382989
>>719383403
Are you american by any chance? Might explain why you use words such as "evil" and "anti-consumerism" that you don't really understand, while being this easily brainwashed by the opinions of online grifters
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>>719382796
The entire western side is not aware of this and believe the same trash the journos feed them, it's not an american thing only because other countries media copy paste the same crap the usual suspects posts. Add to that griefing scum like grummz and you have a recipe for disaster.
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>>719382112
>direct competitor
>palslop
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Palworld is slop but modern Nintendo is also slop, both of them deserve ridicule for this and Nintendo deserves to lose this because it's morally wrong to patent game mechanics.
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>>719381041
greatest corpo bootlicker you are
also they were not sued because of the designs so even if it was true those were copied then nintenshart didn't do anything about that
it's game mechanics that nintenshart didn't invent but change the patent on them every week
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>>719381479
Over in Japan yeah? You think its coincidence Japanese indie devs all use rpgmaker/VNmaker pre assests or don't exist, Their copyright patent shit stops it.
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>>719381139
That's the thing anon; they're losing their case against Pocket Pair. It's why they're pulling every desperation move you can think of and it still isn't enough.
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>>719381041
if they win their lawsuit it will kill the japanese creative industry as a whole
everyone know this, which is why they wont win.
they are just trying to drain as much money from their competition as possible to dissuade people from impacting their defacto monopoly on pet collection games
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I'll kick your ass
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>>719387076
you got no idea what youre talking about monkey man
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>>719383815
If pretty much everyone on the Japanese side including ZUN himself made fun of the Pocketpair's CEO then yeah it should ring a bunch of alarm bells about the guy himself. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings towards Nintendo. But I guess it's more a proof that nobody in the West really cares about the Japanese themselves (and their culture) beyond consuming their entertainment media, and that's my main issue regarding this whole lawsuit case more than the lawsuit itself.

I still don't understand why the CEO thought it was a good idea to try gathering the sympathy of Internet randos on social media, as lawsuit disputes and their courts are pretty much resolved in a private matter IRL. Again his overall behavior has been too suspicious to ever make me think he's some kind of martyr. Whatever he has done, he definitely pissed off enough to get under the sights of a industry giant, and I certainly don't believe Palworld itself has anything to do with it.

>Add to that griefing scum like grummz and you have a recipe for disaster.
I noticed Pirat_Nation acts the same too, it's like the whole western Internet has gone completely insane on the topic of Nintendo, like deranged patients who escaped from an asylum. It doesn't matter to them if the claims are true or straight up misinformation, which really rubs me the wrong way as someone who strives for info accuracy. And I don't think things are going to be better on this matter.

It's also the typical industry slapfight, you got things like Konami throwing a patent lawsuit on Cygames over Umamusume a while back for example, Nintendo just happens to be the least trigger-happy.
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>>719388293
>If pretty much everyone on the Japanese side including ZUN himself made fun of the Pocketpair's CEO then yeah it should ring a bunch of alarm bells about the guy himself.
Anon I don't think you understand Japanese culture. They're some of the biggest corporate bootlickers in the world. They are near unanimously in support of Nintendo suing the fuck out of anyone they want even though it's blatantly obvious they wouldn't have a leg to stand on in any other first world country(a lot of the stunts that they've pulled are outright illegal in many other countries.) They almost always take the side of the larger corporation.
>Whatever he has done, he definitely pissed off enough to get under the sights of a industry giant, and I certainly don't believe Palworld itself has anything to do with it.
He signed with Sony. That's it. Nintendo still holds a grudge against them from decades ago and because Pocket Pair now has Sony's backing they view Palworld as a threat because they are in the exact same situation GameFreak was 30 years ago and they don't want to see them reach the same level of success with a competitor.
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>>719388293
Two wrongs don't make a right. I hate Palworld, I never played it and I think it looks like unimaginative slop.
Doesn't mean that Nintendo should get away with what amounts to patent trolling a company they don't like. Patenting game mechanics and game mechanic ideas is morally wrong and they deserve shame on their ancestors for it.
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>>719388856
I hope they patent troll you next, force you out of your tin shitshack
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>>719380770
i hate shittoyo more than ninshitdo
hope they sue and win
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>>719388856
>Patenting game mechanics and game mechanic ideas is morally wrong
You know what's even more morally wrong? Stealing.
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>>719389037
Why aren't they suing for plagiarism then
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>>719380770
That article doesnt mention anything about Nintendo suing Hoyoverse. It only says a consultant is saying they are infringing a patent.
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>>719381041
He thinks dokev exists :(
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>>719389160
They are.
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>>719388598
>Anon I don't think you understand Japanese culture. They're some of the biggest corporate bootlickers in the world.
I think you need to take your meds anon and lay off your personal fanfictions onforeign cultures. What's next? The French are "bootlickers" to their own regional french industries or anything tied to their culture?
People in Japan simply made fun of the Pocketpair's CEO for his ego, as some sort of authority of the indie scene (the guy got a partnership with Sony Music too, which isn't SIE btw) and his audacity to make Internet drama about court matters that are supposed to be semi-private and objective.
>>719388856
>Patenting game mechanics and game mechanic ideas is morally wrong
I see nothing wrong with it, especially as it's about the way something is implemented, not the content itself. You just need to be a little creative in order to get around one patent.
But again these lawsuits are just typical Japanese slapfights to settle matters for whatever reason happening behind the curtains. It's not the end of the world like this moron in >>719387221 was implying.
Westerners are losing their mind over something this mundane.
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>>719389160
>plagiarising patents isn't plagiarism
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>>719389297
Point me to the lawsuit for plagiarism.
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>>719381264
There's a whole genre called soulslike because of dark souls and a hundred games that are "souls but Pinocchio" or "souls but anime"
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>>719389306
>agrees with me
>calls me a moron
huh?
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>>719389352
You don't know what that word means. Patent infringement is not plagiarism.
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>>719380770
nintendo will get their shit pushed in if they sue hoyoverse. not only will they not will the lawsuit but china will now become anti-nintendo and nintendo is already completely crashing and burning the west cause all the zoomies/alpha don't give a fuck about mario or pokemon crap. china is basically the one place where nintendo still has some popularity and isn't just for weird loser millnennials.
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>>719388598
>Nintendo still holds a grudge against them from decades
HA you're kidding right? Anon, Nintendo hasn't give one iota of a fuck about Sony since Sony tried to fuck them all those years ago. They couldn't give two shits about whether or not they signed with them especially since it wasn't SIE. Hell Nintendo themselves partner with Sony all the time, off the top of my head
The Xenoblade X OST was published by Sony music
The Zelda movie is being made by Sony Pictures.
They're allowing Sony, SIE this time, to publish games on their system.
If they really wanted to fuck them over they would have just bought pocketpair and whipped them into shape but no, they didn't do that at all because they don't care.
Literally the only reason they sued is because Pocketpair plagiarised pokemon's mechanics and the palworld fans drew their attention to it by constantly spamming about how pokemon was dead.

The only reason you could ever think that Nintendo cares about your petty console wars is if you're some butthurt sonyfag who just has a scathing, irrational hatred of them.
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>>719389395
About pretending this one specific patent lawsuit will "kill the japanese creative industry as a whole" ? Yeah, you're a moron.
Most westerners making a big deal of this case are the kind who actually spit on the face of the Japanese people if they dare to inconvenience whatsoever.
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>>719381041
Patent abuse shouldnt be a thing. Nintendo even tried to patent jumping and looking at things
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>>719389409
>plagiarism
>noun
>the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
It's plagiarism. It doesn't just apply to copyright you fucking brand loyal slut.
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>>719381915
Kek the fuck are you smoking? Companies are not your friend, that's right, Nintendo was never your friend and they are known yakuzas extorting other companies
>Then that means snoy and Microsoft are good!
No? Those are awful too
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>>719389556
enforcing a patent claim that was filed after the product being attacking was released WOULD destroy the creative industry, in fact it would create a precedent that would destroy most industries, which is why its not going to pass.
its just patent trolling to waste peoples time and money.
this isnt about westerners or easterners, its just common sense.
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>>719389593
>Nintendo even tried to patent jumping and looking at things
No, no they didn't.
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>>719389593
good thing you're too fat to jump and are always staring at the ground then
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>>719389037

You cannot steal an idea you retard. Ideas aren't owned by anyone. Millions of people will have the same fucking idea on their own, the person who got it first isn't special.
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>>719389639
>enforcing a patent claim that was filed after the product being attacking was released WOULD destroy the creative industry
That's why I said earlier that gaijins are too dumb to understand Japanese law and how they got lied by the Pocketpair's CEO (even the Japanese called him out for this). The whole thing about their patents is that they spawn "child patents" afterwards, see the Konami vs Cygames case as another instance of this happening.
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>>719381041
Unalive yourself
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>>719389639
>enforcing a patent claim that was filed after the product being attacking was released WOULD destroy the creative industry
Yeah it problem would.
But we're talking about patents filed three years before the release of Palworld, before they had even shown these patents in a trailer.
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>>719389593
They didn't, but Miyamoto wanted to and if they could at this point they definitely would.
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>>719389695
>Millions of people will have the same fucking idea on their own, the person who got it first isn't special.
You want to know something absolutely hilarious?
Millions of people won't have that idea unless they copied from the same source because peooke aren't machines designed to think the same way.
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>>719389695
>it's okay to cheat on a test by copying the answers from the guy sitting next to me! Show your working? What is my opinion? Something that needs me to think as an individual? I'll just copy that too, there can't be any other way to do it so that's fine!
You zoomers are fucking doomed.
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>>719389852
Yes they will you fucking retard. You just think ideas are magic because you're uncreative as fuck and don't understand anything about how things are invented. People live in the same world and that gives them enough shared context to stumble into the same thoughts entirely on their own.

Google "Dennis the Menace" if you want to educate yourself. Both of them.
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What Nintendo is doing is absolutely fucking retarded. Pokemon itself WOULD NOT EXIST if people before them had patented HP, turn based combat, elemental weaknesses etc.. Patenting game mechanics is the absolute lowest of the low and it's horrifically embarrassing that a international megacorp has to sink to this depth out of fear and greed, DESPITE BENEFITTING from game mechanics not being patented before them!
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>>719389829
>Miyamoto wanted to
No, he didn't he made a joke about it.
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>>719389945
Please refrain from posting if you don't know how the Japanese patent system works
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>>719390006
I know how it works, Nintendo is scum for abusing it in this way, and you're a braindead scumsucking retard for enabling them and defending them you shit eating fuckface moron. Don't talk you fucking idiot.
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>>719390048
>t. stumbled on his shoelaces back when he was five, velcro ever since
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Wait do people actually defend Palworld?
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>>719390006
You don't have to be an IP lawyer to say it's patent trolling
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>>719390095
>t. sucks nintendo cock and balls, tongues shaft as well, since he was 5
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>>719389935
>You just think ideas are magic because you're uncreative as fuck
Hang on, are you genuinely trying to say I'm the one who's uncreative when I'm saying that creativity is inherent if you're not intentionally copying?

>Google "Dennis the Menace" if you want to educate yourself. Both of them.
I'm a bong, I grew up on Dennis but you clearly didn't know about either of them if you think these are the same idea just because two different people decided to rhyme "Dennis" with "Menace".
Congratulations you've destroyed your own argument.
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I can't wait to see Nintendo lose. The meltdown will be on a scale the world has ever seen.
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>>719389945
>Pokemon itself WOULD NOT EXIST if people before them had patented HP, turn based combat, elemental weaknesses etc
It's far too generic to patent anon, even if you could it would still exist because the damage calculation would be don't differently across games as well as weakness calculation. Hell, dual typing in RPGs wasn't really a thing in pokemon either so that would have set it apart.

You have no idea how patents work.
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>>719390208
shillworld has no chance of winning
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It's just classical corporate greed behaviour. First Nintendo profit for decades over game mechanics invented by others not being patented, but I guess now is the time to pull the ladder up behind them. That's a sign that a corporation is entering a later stage of its lifetime. Growth is over, stagnation is next.
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>>719390140
>mind immediately jumps to minors performing sex acts when he gets challenged
this man interrupted his very important roblox goon'n'groom sesh to be here, be grateful
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>>719380770
>nintendo is evil now
Nintendo has always been evil, people only see it now because they don't even bother to try and hide it anymore.
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Why can't you just respond to tweets on twitter instead of here?
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>>719390223
>calculation would be don't differently across
cool ESL opinion.
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>>719390208
>I can't wait to see Nintendo lose
Nintendo always wins, baby.
Dominated handhelds forever
Won the console wars
Their Mario movie was a huge success
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>>719389935
>Google "Dennis the Menace" if you want to educate yourself. Both of them.
You know this doesn't help your argument, right?
Dennis in the US was a prankster at best who annoyed one guy, Dennis in the UK was a legitimate destructive and chaotic force who didn't care about anything Until they modernised him and made him way more tame
If I remember right there was even an episode of the UK Dennis show with giant robots for some reason and him breaking into some kind of fort nox facility. That's not something you would see in US Dennis.
All you've done is prove that anon right, two people came up with the name "Dennis the Menace" and produced two completely different ideas.
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>>719390398
>oh no, I don't have an argument, what do I do...
>wait... HE MADE A MISTAKE GOGOGO DISREGARD EVERYTHING HE SAID
you Indian palworld shills are hilarious.
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>>719389306
>especially as it's about the way something is implemented, not the content itself
There's no technical implementation in the patent. It's game design ideas. The patent reads like a game design document.
Even if it had technical implementation, I would consider it questionable unless it's something extremely technologically advanced.
Sometimes there's only so many ways you can mathematically resolve a function efficiently. If everyone patented their technical implementation of basic ideas, eventually there will be no new ways to implement that function.
>Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Nintendo is climbing the lasder and pulling it up behind them.
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>>719380770
They've become a company that has to resort to legal bullying. Win or lose, it's a bad look.
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>twitter screenshot thread
>grummz
saged. post the article or fuck off
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Every popular steam game is a repetitive brainrot loop which slowly drains your soul. That's why PC vegans are always raging at nintendo. Fucking banana, a game where you just repeatedly click, is one of the top steam games. They are a bunch of brownoids that refuse to pay devs for a decent gameplay experience and instead settle for soul sucking repetitive gambling inspired loops and then endlessly cry into the void at nintendo. There are a bunch of youtubers that receive hundreds of thousands of views per day just making the same video crying about nintendo over and over, which pc vegans watch while playing banana.
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>>719390471
>There's no technical implementation in the patent
Anon, that's all a patent is. The method of execution.
>Even if it had technical implementation, I would consider it questionable unless it's something extremely technologically advanced.
Then you're not mature enough for this conversation. You literally just want to be angry at things you don't want to understand.
>Sometimes there's only so many ways you can mathematically resolve a function efficiently.
We aren't talking about math or something objective, there's an infinite amount of ways to create something.
Case in point, let's say miyamoto wasn't joking about patenting jumping and they actually did do that. It wouldn't have affected games like Sonic, Megaman, Crash, Castlevania because all of those jumping mechanics are different in their execution
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>>719380770
They don't need to win. They just need to have more money to sustain lawsuits.
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>>719390787
That's not how that works.
As the plaintiff you want to end it quickly, it's the defendant on the losing side who wants to draw out the court battle to find an argument
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>>719389984
Miyamoto doesn't joke, he's a happy mask salesman for a reason.
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>>719380770
>autobattler chinkslop with overdesigned characters and monsters
yep pokemon is dead this time for sure!
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>>719390006
Please refrain from posting if you're a retarded corpo bootlicker.
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>>719390125
Against nintendo being fucking evil? Hell yeah. I don't give a shit about palworld and think it's pure slop, but nintendo can gargle my balls for the shit they're trying to pull. I might have the tiniest bit more sympathy if modern pokemon wasn't rancid dogshit, but nintendo is absolutely still in the wrong.
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>>719381041
This is revenge
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>>719391245
>but nintendo can gargle my balls for the shit they're trying to pull.
What shit? Basic protection of what they own?
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Since when did copying other games become illegal? Isn't the entire industry built on it? Zelda copied ubishit asscreed games, why does shitendo think it can sue other companies when they themselves are guilty of the same shit?
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>>719391245
So basically because you're a butthurt pokefag you're disregarding any and all notions of common sense just to be angry.
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>>719381041
Pokemon literally would not exist without Dragon Quest. Guess Yuji Hori and Square should sue Nintendo, Gamefreak, and the Pokemon Company into the dirt for all the patent infringements they could apparently retroactively apply for and file if they wanted to.
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>>719391385
You're too stupid to understand
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Wasn't Nintendo forced to change the wording in their patents recently?
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>>719391409
The common sense of what tou fucking retard? Of monopolizing game mechanics? Of catching creatures and riding them?
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>>719391463
They weren't forced to, they did it to increase their chances of winning, which should be illegal but apparently just isn't
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>>719390725
You didn't understand my point.
>Sonic, Megaman, Crash, Castlevania
Now imagine if they also patented their jumping mechanic.
Imagine if everyone patented their own inventory UI.
Imagine if DOOM and every third person shooter thereafter did.
The golden rule of ethics is to act as you want everyone else to act.
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>>719391446
If you can't explain it I will assume there is no reason.
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So what's the actual state of the lawsuit? No shitposting or buzzwords, I just want to know where it currently stands.
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>>719391409
It's hilarious when you retards try to spin it like you're not slurping the shit off pokemon's shoes. You're in this thread getting assblasted on nintendo's behalf because you have no fucking standards or self respect. Nobody gets fucked over harder by nintendo than you losers.
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If pocketpair was so innocent, why did they change ingame mechanics after the lawsuit picked up traction?
checkmate faggots
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>>719391506
>The common sense of what tou fucking retard? Of monopolizing game mechanics? Of catching creatures and riding them?

The common sense of ownership and the case that you can't get away with plagiarism just because a handful of fat retards are angry at the franchise you stole from.
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>>719391385
>Since when did copying other games become illegal?
Forever.
>Isn't the entire industry built on it?
No. You're confusing plagiarism for inspiration. When you're inspired by something you want to make something similar yet original, Sonic was inspired by Mario but you wouldn't say Sonic plagiarised Mario, would you? Same with something like Zelda and Binding of Isaac.
But then you have something like Giana Sisters just being Mario, level design and all, with girls.
>Zelda copied ubishit asscreed games,
Which it didn't. The only similarity is the existence of towers and between the two games they function differently.
>why does shitendo think it can sue other companies when they themselves are guilty of the same shit?
Because they aren't.
You can whine, scream and even post that nonsense DQ pokemon image but nothing you do will change the fact that they don't plagiarise their games or characters.
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>>719391431
>>719389776
>>719389593
>>719387221
>>719386434
seething retards lmao
Nintendo won.
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>>719391564
It's in a japanese court, which tongues nintendo's anus, so nobody knows. Nintendo is clearly in the wrong and what they're trying to do sets up a horrible precedence, but they have the court in their back pocket, so it's anybody's guess.
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>>719391463
Not exactly. Basically pocketpair was desperate and claimed that their patent was poorly worded and as a courtesy they decided to "reword" it.
The funny part is that they only changed a handful of words because it was perfectly fine.
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>>719391517
>Now imagine if they also patented their jumping mechanic.
>Imagine if everyone patented their own inventory UI.
>Imagine if DOOM and every third person shooter thereafter did.
Why are you acting like I didn't already answer this argument?
>let's say miyamoto wasn't joking about patenting jumping and they actually did do that. It wouldn't have affected games like Sonic, Megaman, Crash, Castlevania because all of those jumping mechanics are different in their execution.
Patents don't cover the concept that's being patented, it covers the execution. That also means you can't patent or copyright first and third person shooters because that's a perspective and not an idea.
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>>719391781
>Not exactly. Basically pocketpair was desperate and claimed that their patent was poorly worded and as a courtesy they decided to "reword" it.
>The funny part is that they only changed a handful of words because it was perfectly fine.

If its about the switching to the gliding monster while falling from a height and the glider isn't select, it even makes the patent even more specific to how it functions in Legends Arceus. Which ultimately only made it easier to see that Pocketpair literally just played Legends Arceus when it came out and then just changed Palword mid-development to copy the Legends ride mechanics functionality.
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>>719391680
But nintendo is suing a company that was inspired by them and you just said that's fine?
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>>719391615
>It's hilarious when you retards try to spin it like you're not slurping the shit off pokemon's shoes
I haven't bought a pokemon game in years, but I'm not going to pretend that a company known for stealing getting their comeuppance isn't both hilarious and deserved just because pokemon isn't good anymore.
You and the "other anon" on the other hand being the die hard pokefags you are hate this because you see it as pokemon winning.
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>>719389596
in law they're two different things
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>>719392080
The problem is that they aren't. They're suing a company who's CEO openly admitted that their design philosophy requires copying 1 to 1 aka plagiarism and not inspiration.
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>>719392080
Pocketpair aren't inspired by shit, the CEO was interviewed and said they copy popular mechanics because they're popular and its just easier than coming up with something unique. Copying Pokemon to the point Nintendo can sue them on patent infringement isn't the same as drawing inspiration from it.
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>>719380770
Why are Nintentoddlers like this?
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>>719380770
I don't give a singular fuck about what stupid retards like him on twitter say.
Tell me if there's something ACTUALLY HAPPENING regarding Nintendo and this game or shut the fuck up.
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>>719392257
You know anon, posting this comic over and over about people who don't exist doesn't help you or pocketpair.
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>>719392096
>die hard pokefags
>you hate this because you see it as pokemon winning
Are you retarded.
Trying to claim other people are guilty of what you are or do doesn't work when it makes zero fucking sense.
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>>719389596
>and passing it as their own.
So if you don't do that and correctly cite all the games you get your design ideas from, it would no longer be patent infringement then?
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>>719392096
right, you're just a nintendo cocksucker who knows pokemon's gone completely to shit but has to jump in here and shit up the walls anyway in defense of your precious corporation
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>>719380770
>Consultant
Isn't this the same guy that try to frame US/EU patent law to JP's? (Which are entirely different btw). Why can't the journalist just find japanese patent attorney? Those guys will give more accurate pov than this guy
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>>719388598
>even Jap indie devs with no history of publishing games on Nintendo made fun of PocketPair's CEO
>MUH BOOTLICKER
Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is real. All they can say and do is parrot, "muh bootlicker" while ignoring any context. Sad.
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>>719392394
It's exactly how shitendo fans act though.
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>>719392558
>Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is real
Indeed. All Nintendo dickriders are divorced from reality and any semblance of standards or self-respect.
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>>719392478
>in defense of your precious corporation
Okay? So you can't criticise or laugh at at a company fucking up anymore without being a Nintendo fan even if you don't care about Nintendo?
Did Nintendo kill your cat out something? You sound like you have some kind of personal investment like you saw them as a friend.
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>>719392394
Oh no.
I'll keep posting it.
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>719392613
>proving my point
>gets more defensive than any tendie
See?
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>>719392591
>didn't happen with SMT
>didn't happen with Digimon
>didn't happen with Yokai Watch
>didn't happen with Palworld
Meanwhile
>palworld fans screech and scream about pokemon nonstop
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>maybe
>should
>probably
>surely
>going to
>likely
>clearly
>potentially
>perchance
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>>719380770
I hope they do. Hoyotrannies are really annoying. At least Palworld was an indie studio without gambling.
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>>719392636
I sound like someone who hates what they're doing and sees the danger in it
you sound like you're gagging on their cock
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>>719392664
Yes, I see you have NDS. Seek help.
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>>719392367
The fuck is labubu
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>>719381141
He hates evil companies like Jewtendo.
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>>719392237
They didn’t actually copy it in the sense that any reasonable person would think it is infringement on a patent. Palworlds mount system does a lot more than what you can do in Pokemon. It gives you a wide range on mountable pals that you can then send out and mount from the field. In Pokemon you only have limited options where simply press a button and appear on top of it. You can’t actually mount your party pokemon like Pal World. In the case of mounts, it isn’t even inspired by Nintendo other than going back to the anime. The game mechanics are just doing something different, which apparently isn’t enough in Japan. It just comes off as Nintendo being upset someone came up with something better than they did.
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>>719392695
>I sound like someone who hates what they're doing and sees the danger in it
No, not really.
I mean look at your posts
>you're just a nintendo cocksucker who knows pokemon's gone completely to shit
>when you retards try to spin it like you're not slurping the shit off pokemon's shoes
>but nintendo can gargle my balls for the shit they're trying to pull.
>I might have the tiniest bit more sympathy if modern pokemon wasn't rancid dogshit, but nintendo is absolutely still in the wrong
Does this sound like someone who's thinking rationally or does it sound like someone who feels personally betrayed?
I mean, you've said you're talking about the dangers but you haven't mentioned any dangers. Not that you could because this isn't the first video game patent case. Any precedent that would be set by this was set well before you were born so there is no danger and by the nature of patents it won't affect anyone actually trying to create.

You're angry because you think pokemon is a bad game, it's become an obsession. Just let it go.
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>>719392741
next iteration of funko pops
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>>719392902
I'm not reading all that
I know your game, get fucked
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>>719392834
>They didn’t actually copy it in the sense that any reasonable person would think it is infringement on a patent.
Copying the mechanics one to one is what any reasonable person would call infringement. A fanboy on the other hand who doesn't quite understand how patents work such as yourself on the other hand wouldn't. For example
>It gives you a wide range on mountable pals
Irrelevant. A patent is entirely about function not what they're visually represented as or specific amounts, if you have 5 rideable monsters in a patent that's the same as 100 because that's not part of the function.
So everything you said doesn't matter.
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>how dare the Playstation 1 and 2 outsell the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube
>Nintendo should own the entire industry and sue anyone they don't like out of existence as payback because everyone I don't like is Sony
This is literally what Nintendofags here think.
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>>719391998
You still didn't understand my point.
There's only so many ways a concept can be executed. If all of them are patented the game landscape would be barren.
And the "execution" in the patents we are talking about are on a high game design level.
It's equivalent to
>the user moves the viewport camera using a motion input device. There is a reticule in the center of the viewport. If the player character is holding a weapon object and presses an input, a projectile is releases and does damage on a target at the reticule's location unless another object is blocking the direct line of sight. The projectile accuracy, speed and damage varies by weapon.
This is the level of detail of the execution in these patents that we're talking about.
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>>719392959
>I'm not reading all that
It's like 12 lines. Jesus no wonder you're defending pocketpair you don't have the attention span for anything better.
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>>719380770
Who is this IP consultant? Is it someone from the internet?
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>>719393040
What mechanics have been copied? It would have been more useful to just say that if you have a point to make.
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>>719393147
The same guy that called mid motion alteration weird while it actually accepted in Japanese patent court. Basically he used his experience on EU/US patent law to frame his opinion on JP patent law. I'm not sure why didn't the journalist find a japanese lawyer instead of this guy.
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>>719393083
>There's only so many ways a concept can be executed
You're not getting it, as long as humanity has the capacity for intelligent thought there's an infinite way of executing an idea. That's how creativity works.
>This is the level of detail of the execution in these patents that we're talking about.
It's not. We're talking about specific and generalised functions. You just took something generic and added some fluff words.
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>>719393226
>What mechanics have been copied
If you don't know what they're being sued for at this point why are you even here?
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>>719380995
>>719381041
>>719381141
cultist freaks
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>>719393268
>The same guy that called mid motion alteration weird while it actually accepted in Japanese patent court
You want to know something funny? It's not JP specific, you can do that in any court across the world because it's a change for clarity, not what it means.
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>>719393378
Yes, you are, snoy.
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Imagine if Nintendo had to come up in an era where platformers were patented

Donkey Kong is pretty much a rip off of Space Panic, and Nintendo's first platformer was Donkey Kong. Imagine if those platformer mechanics in Space Panic were patented. They weren't. If the mechanics of Space Panic were patented, Nintendo would have 100% infringed on them with Donkey Kong.

So Nintendo came up in an era where they didn't have to worry about patents in video games. But now Nintendo wants to pull up the ladder behind them.

It's shitty fucking behaviour. And Nintendo needs to be stopped.
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>>719380770
Nintendo spends billions into R&D for new gameplay, why should other companies walk in and steal them for free? Nintendo should sue them into bankruptcy.
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>>719393268
Because the japanese lawyer's reponse would have went against his narrative. He most likely asked multiple people and picked the one that matched his agenda
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>>719393426
the difference here is that I hate sony and haven't bought a playstation for about 20 years

you on the other hand really are a tendie cultist and seriously try to defend them
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>>719392257
because pokemon fans are people who microwave used diapers and wear them whereas the above too aren't weird mentally ill freaks they just want to play a game.
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>>719393467
Nintendo benefitted in its earlier years from copying mechanics in other games. They probably still do copy mechanics in other games to this day.
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>>719393102
People like you aren't worth the attention span. Keep your shitposting and corpo bootlicking concise
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>>719393325
Because I’ve played both games and know that they use different mechanics. Why are you here if you don’t know about the games?
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>>719393539
their modern Zelda games clearly copy mechanics from ubisoft and minecraft
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Tendies are mentally ill and need a containment board. No different from bronies.
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>>719393539
Literally everybody does. This industry would be utterly fucked if everyone in the early days just patented every mechanic that first made it into a game. Reminder that Miyamoto felt like they should patent jumping. If modern Nintendo was in control back then, they would have tried to.
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>>719393452
The first video game Nintendo ever released was a Space Invaders ripoff. That's their legacy as a game company, copying other people until they're rich enough to file bogus lawsuits.
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>>719393667
>>719393661
>>719393656
>>719393595

You lost and got raped;;; Eric
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>>719393667
It was Light Tennis, a flagrant ripoff of Pong, iirc.
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>>719393661
>>719393667
Video games would be absolutely fucked if Nintendo had the patent and copyright policy they do now back in the day, or if a bunch of companies had this policy. You wouldn't be able to do shit in games.
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>>719393839
And Pong itself was a ripoff of Tennis for Two by Nintendo's bullshit legal standards.
Everybody should be sued! The industry should have died before it even got started!
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>>719393839
>>719393878
>>719394010

You lost and got raped;;; Eric
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Who is this Eric and why do I see him mentioned every time someone shits on Nintendo?
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>>719380770
>IP consultant
sounds like a real productive job
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>>719380770
Nintendo is like the retards on here that double down on being retarded once they've realized they're in the wrong.
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>>719381041
Nobody should have any case whatsoever over having gameplay elements similar or lifted.
Nintendo needs to be put in their place as soon as possible.
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Eric is my uncle who works for Nintendo, he says the new Mario game is lit.
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>>719380770
I don't even know what the deal with this twitter faggot is but the fact that he's in half of the twitter screencaps threads on this board must mean he's a blithering moron worshipped by zoomers
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>>719385946
What game mechanics did they patent?
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>>719393452
>Imagine if Nintendo had to come up in an era where platformers were patented
They would be the richest fucking company in the world.
The amount of companies that would try and fail to sue them because they made original mechanics for a concept would be fucking absurd and they would make out like bandits with win after win after win since they wouldn't be infringing.

Alternatively they would just ask for permission.



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