OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
omg chudbros.... we won!
>WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE NUMBERS SO MUCH????
>>719383197Surely a blockbuster success.
>>719383197I FEEL SO NUMB
best selling game of 2025 they said
>>719383197to be fair this could be some new tencent mandate
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>>719383298what a garbage year for AAA vidya
>>719383197
>>719383419the biggest games of 2025 have all been indies
>>719383481The biggest games of 2025 have all been made by Nintendo.
>>719383528they didnt even make top 10
>>719383551Okay, Eric.
Stupid chuds, AssCreed just sold so well that they know they'll make everyone else feel bad if they show the numbers
>>719383298Man beth made so much money with that POS remaster,They are definitely working on fallout 3 reamster and Skyrim remaster will feed generations.
ohnonononono ubi xisters......
>>719383363>>719383298>>719383197>>719383368ubisoft literally refused to give out sales figures on their earnings call. I legit don't know how that's even legal, but I'd say if they made money off it they would be shouting to the hills considering the company is down 2/3rds of it's value since coof
>>719384198I think they made a lot of money because it's Assassin's Creed at the end of the day, but not nearly enough to cover the budget, marketing, all the other flops, and satisfy the investors. That's why they used players.
>>719383197Yasuke is a giga tyrone that lives in everyones head rent free because he mentally NTRs all the weebs here by getting with Lady Oichi. People will never stop seething about this game because it didn't flop unlike Star Wars Outlaws and Skull & Bones.>ackshually--Yeah I don't listen to losers. Keep seething over 5m+ sales.
>>719384854I don't even know who Lady Oichi is. You're deluding yourself if you think any of us played or even know the plot of Nigger Creed
And yet you still played it. Curious!
Going the Blizzard route. They'll just milk the few retards who still buy the games with more microtransactions and will only report (((revenue))) from here on out.
>>719383267Numbers don't lie, but their meaning is open to interpretation.
>>719384356if they didn't cover the budget they, by definition, didn't make money
>>719384854if it didn't flop, why did ubisoft refuse to give sales figs on their earnings call?
>>719383298>1. wilds>2.obl>3. creed this is so sad
Reminder the Ubisoft is the most valuable company in the world. Trust the Plan
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>>719383197I haven't thought about shadows since its release. It's funny how easy it would have been to make a tonne of money from an Assassin's Creed set in Japan. Do you think they learned anything from this?
>>719383197I thought Ass Creed Shadows sold like shit that caused the company to be sold. Why is it rank 3?
>>719385340Not only is white might, but it actually happened historically
it sold so well they have to hide the numbers chud
>>719385539the long noses in charge of the money, yes, the blue haired tranny devs, no
>>719383197BUTTTTT 6 MILLION PLAYERSSS!
>>719385340nioh isn't a franchise that waited years to have a game set in japan for a convenient non-japanese (read: honorary aryan) as an mc to take the lead, only to accidentally expose the source as a fucking quack because the devs are that inept
>>719384854>5m+ salessource?
>>719384124Nobody actually wants to work for Ubisoft as it is an extremely predatory company. Investors don't want employees either as they view them as leeches sucking out the imaginary profits.
>>719385634Because Circana is a terrible measurement for which games are actually the best selling since it only includes like 20 companies, almost all of which are the western AAA publishers, and a couple of the biggest jap ones.Unfortunately with a bunch of those publishers being so fucking scared of revealing how shit a lot of their games are actually selling or being played it's one of the only resources for these games.
>>719386030So Blackass Creed Shadows sold like shit and didn't make the money they hoped to make, correct?
>>719383267Because Ubisoft lies about the numbers
>>719385634Circana is dogshit because it doesn't include any hard data of sales in the numbers/rankings that one guy shills on twitter all the time. It just ranks everything. There could be a 10 million copy difference between MH: Wilds and Obliviion, and then another 5 million difference between Oblivion and AC and you'd never know.>omg it's 3rd!!!Means literally nothing and tells you almost nothing about how many copies the game sold. Similar to "player numbers"
>>719383197>this will mean less twitter screenshot and saleshit threads in the futuregood
>>719383197They're treating the "most sold of 2025" as gospel on the Steam forumsteamcommunity.com/app/3159330/discussions/0/802323230979356403/
>>719383475This show was the only good show on TV.
literally only reason anyone talks about the sales is culture warsif you realize ac shadows sales meaning the other side lost it still wont make your future rent payments a funner experience you stop caring about it
>>719387203I liked Pawn start and all the shitty spin offshttps://youtu.be/TPSr9eTmeKI?si=GlGWEe9jGYZvDlB4
But all those gazillion players they have? Surely those numbers they secretly shared with their investors was good enough to build confidence in their future prospects, right?
>>719384198The legal requirements for earnings are topline numbers and guidance that is not a demonstrable lie. Callers can ask anything, but the episodes from DOW in the 90's showed all companies to give non-answers to everything not mandated by law.
>>719383551This
>>719383197this is your reminder that every steam sales thread has a lot of "organic" anons coming in and complaining about how talking about games sales and numbers isnt videogames and should be banned. Complete coincidence of course. There's no way anyone would come onto 4channel and shill, that'd be crazy guys.
>>719383298>horrible disappointment>shitty soulless outsourced demaster>ubislop>cawadooty>yearly sport slopwhat a year
>>719387447I steam chart posters are fucking retarded nigger>Dude only 20k peak for this indie game>oh nonnonon noAlso Sale =/= Quality
>>719387545Complete coincidence of course that that mindset, especially for triple a games, just so happens to be the same one those companies want gamers to have and helps them the most. >dude just like don't talk about how the game with like 3000 employees only had peak players of 60k>it doesn't matter>stop paying attention
>>719383197>>719383298>it sold less than... Monster Hunter and Oblivion!Why are people pretending this is bad?
>>719383528>t. utter retard
>>719387780Talk about the quality of the game itself, how about that? MHW and Black myth sold a lot of copies but they are mediocre games
>>719387545Good games rarely sell little
>>719387867because ubisoft are trying to pump their stock
>>719387952how about I talk about the fucking sales numbers, usually the lack thereof, and the player numbers instead you fucking faggot. I hope you're an ubishill just so I know you did a bad job and your boss is gonna dock your pay, probably again.
>>719383298>worst game in the franchise>honest to god demake>absolute nothing game that only exists to use canadian tax money>same game as the last 20 in the franchise>what even>honestly don't know>game notably worse than the last one which was already bad>very fun but obvious asset flip game>okay I guess, never looked nto it>fuck offTerrible year for AAA games, eachyear seems worse than last.
>>719387957That's so untrue. There are like three dozen good to great games that sold badly
Cucks making video games where they insert black men into everything isn't working out so great?
>>719384854>be a ugly smelly retard subhuman nobody likes and wants to even know they exist>take a shit in public disturbing the peace of everybody else>I'M A GIGA CHAD I LIVE RENT FREE IN YOUR HEAD I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!!!! HAHAH I MADE YOU SO MAD I WIN!!!you're such a retard loser. you have to try and argue failure is success cause you're a bottom feeding subhuman scum.
>>719387952Wukong is great actually.
>>719384854>Yeah I don't listen to losers. Keep seething over 5m+ salesrelease the sales numbers pierre. the investors want to know.
>>719388158I just think it's a terrible form of criticism And chart threads can be very annoying
It's worse than you think. They didn't just stop giving them out because sales were bad, they stopped giving them out because the ones they were giving out previously were fraudulent.Publishers have all realized that Gen Z is obsessed with sales data and player counts, and it becomes a negative feedback loop if a game is underperforming at launch. We're now in the era where, if you do see sales data, you can bet your ass it's some real fictitious shit.
I don't know how you guys don't realize that the majority of the AAA audience is just a bunch of normies who see a new game from a popular IP and buy it.>Oh cool, another Assassin's Creed, I love those.That being said, AC Shadows was still a failure, which is why they had to sell all their big IPs to Tencent
>>719383298this is the saddest list i have seen in a while
>>719383197I just want more Ubi to release more of their old games on GOG
>>719388421sales numbers are totally fake and so are the player numbers. the only thing you can trust is the quartly revenue earnings to make a judgement about how much they made.there's no speciifc legal requirement when it comes to "sales numbers". they can create a digital license for 1 million copies and sell it to a fake shell company buyer for pennies and then announce they've made 1 million sales nobody has even touched the game. because the contracts now involve digital goods and digital storefronts sales numbers don't mean shit and neither do player numbers when you can get infinity jeets/bots. the only you can really judge from these pieces of shit is quartly revenue
>>719384198What tha fuck. You post something like this and everyone's just casual? IS THAT FUCKING REAL?
>>719388421It's a very Francophone thing to do. France stopped reporting the race of people convicted of crimes long ago (2000's or something?) because it belied the civic nationalism meme that their whole country is predicated upon.
>>719384198it's because what's a sales number? there's no real definition in the law nowadays. they enter contracts with digital storefronts like valve and then simply receive revenue from the sales valve makes, but the number is always varying. when they sell it for $60 it's a sale and when they sell it for $1 it's a sale. this means they can now create entire hoax involving creating bogus contracts and license where they sell some jeet shell company 1 million "copies" but have an agreement that when the jeet shell company sells a copy they'll receive money. the contract states it's been sold so now they can go tell garbage like circana they sold 1 million copies.who is say their contract involving 1 million sold copies to a jeet shell company that will totally resell them to the infinity jeets isn't real? the contract says when they sell the copies they'll receive money. copies are simply never sold anywhere but now they can talk about sales numbers. the entire western game industry is faker than shit.
>>719383298Moster Hunter: Wilds is the best selling game? I thought it failed to meet sales expectations. Was it a terrible year for game sales or did Capcop just have insanely high expectations?
>>719385051I did? Strange, I don't remember it.
>>719389067read this and realize crapcom, nintendo, sony, and ubisoft are selling millions of copies to shell companies involving bogus contracts abusing digital licensing to inflate their numbers to infinity. they're also giving out license to jeets/bot operations to inflate the numbers of concurrent players.
>>719389067Those aren't mutual exclusive
>>719384854>anti indian fatigue cat spamming jeet defends nig shit kek why jeets think theyre black lmao
>>719389249You are retarded, it mean they have unbelievably heigh expectations from these bigger IPs
>>719389067>Was it a terrible year for game salesabysmal yes, Wilds sold most of its games through hype at launch but once everyone realized how shit it was sales crateredAt one point it was capcom's 9th best selling list, selling 1/3 of DMC5
>>719388887You act like this hasn't been gone over since the days of pack-ins and downloadable CD keys.Anyone with a few years in business can do some napkin math from purported sales numbers and public pricing and come up with a reasonable revenue estimate. Do you think marketing reports have genuine verifiable numbers? No, the writers are calling around and getting off the record information from suppliers about volumes plus or minus a few (hundred) thousand and doing some investigative work to figure out how much this is going to change the financial position of the reporting company. Valve absolutely reports sales to publishers what the fuck are you smoking?In contrast, "players" means nothing because they don't even address whether the players are unique or even legitimate copies. Veilguard had the gall to remove all DRM and then report players as if the former action didn't influence the latter number. The only subscription service in this space with any weight is Gamepass and although they stick with the fuckery of "players", at the end of the day Microsoft has to write a check to the publisher and that number is knowable if you must find it.
>>719384854>by getting with Lady Oichi.>he doesn't know about yasuke's love for big nipponese katana
>>719389067It sold a lot and well initially but mainline Monster Hunter is game as a service title and they expect long term stable sales. Wilds sales literally flatlined shortly after release no one buys that shit even SF6 sells more long term. Not just sales but playerbase left too and Wilds has lots of cosmetic microtransactions and shit which is massive source of revenue. SF6 managed to keep stable sales and retards buy mtx,battlepasses still while Wilds playerbase left and remaining players dont buy mtx. Thats why Capcom said Wilds didnt met quartal expectations.
>>719389493you're acting like valve is the only business in town retard. not just that, but you also pretend the gaming journalist vermin are going to do any sorta research or data. beyond that, you act like you're living in some csi episode where the hacker man teams up with the journalist to get the data. in reality, nobody has data on what the fuck ubisoft sold to some shell company in punjab and what's written in the contract with the shell company in punjab. they don't have a legal obligation to tell investors shit let alone about records and revenue flowing into the jeet offiice they setup in india to do "gorilla marketing" and other fraud.unless you have access to their entire financial records including every sorta small transaction at random office you don't know shit. not just that even if you have the numbers it's still easy to hide stuff under all sorts of gray "business expense" and stuff like ad/promotional money.selling 1 million copies digital license at a lsos to some jeet "reseller" shell company not only is a good avenue for kickbacks but it also can be considered part of advertising budget to get social media hype.as for revenue even this sort of thing can be judged to some event too. they can simply run negative revenue making empty promise or time their launch in strategic manners involving other revenue resource like deals made selling IP rights/contracts for exclusive publishing like with epic/other shit.you sound like a retard who believes hollywoods fake ticket numbers. 3 years ago they were selling the most tickets in history and now hollywood is crashing and getting overtaken? what a joke. the number were always fake as fuck
>>719390132You can't run negative revenue, and you're too upset to have this conversation. You absolutely can figure out these numbers to a reasonable accuracy, given a sales number. For example, you can discount purported sales against the ratio of Steam:Non-Steam sales from the same franchise at an earlier installment and figure out if something is fucked up. You can look around for discount keys and if someone tells you they have a bulk package of thousands, then you know something's amiss. People who do this type of work know what magnitude to expect of marketing expenses (which have to be reported!) relative to other parts of the budget. Lol that your example is about Hollywood ticket sales when that scam was busted open years ago, using these same techniques. Eventually, we'll be able to correlate "players" with financial performance as well, it's just bullshit that's all.
>>719388220Go ahead and list them. I bet they're all shit.
>>719383197could that one cocksucker who thinks playercount threads are a chinese psyop (while white knighting a company that tencent has by the balls) please step forward?I want to hear the cope this time
>>719391332No i won't, you'll be dishonest and call them shit.
>>719391690I promise I won't do that, unless they're japanese anime shit.
>>719389398Blastbros, where's Dragon's Dogma 2?
>>719383197lmao the one anon who shills mat/circana constantly and uses it to defend AC shadows is in shambles right now.
>>719391753PreyDishonored 2Rage 2Mirror's edge catalyst Prototype 2
>>719388887"How many sold for MSRP (at least $50 after storefront costs)"There's definitely a way to get proper numbers that can't be lied about if they actually cared to
>>719390989>we have it figured out. it's science! yes hollywood pulled the scam successfully but that was busted so in the future we'll be able to figure it outyou haven't figured out shit faggot. you're just making some nonsense ideas without any data. get me the data involving steam valves versus sales to punjab shell games.oh, wait, you don't have SHIT. you don't have any numbers or data involving the sales. ubisoft didn't even fucking give the sales numbers and you're jerking your little dick telling me we'll correlate players and sales? THERE'S NONE. they just making give a number to the "GAMING JOURNALIST" and it's just announced without any real data. the faggot journalist doesn't have the numbers and neither do you. it's all fucking fake and a scam. the sales tickets scam is easier to catch than this because the movie theaters aren't digital so when nobody goes to the actual movie theaters they start closing down exactly like what happened and how now most movie theaters are closed lmao. digital storefronts with digital license when there's absolutely no law to force them to show the contracts involving asset transfers between themselves and shell companies in punjab means there's nothing to catch.you're jerking your little dick pretending you got numbers and data when ubisoft didn't even release the fucking numbers to their own investors and try to ballbust me for saying negative revenue? dishonest faggot.
>>719392280doubtful, the indians just cashed their checks and moved on to the next slop they were paid to shill
>>719392818they can do still do all sorts of contracts involving future sells and shared revenue. they aren't in the busienss of selling copies to just walmart so there's no requirement for walmart to buy 400,000 copies or whatever. because steam/gamepass exists there's no reason to be stricted to sales numbers like msrp. this is why they can make all sorts of bogus contracts involving future revenue sharing when they give discounts to a punjab reseller shell company for 1 million copies and then announce they sold 1 million.
>>719389249I'm confident that, by the end of the decade, we're going to have someone blow the whistle on the biggest companies (both first and third party) having cooked their books for years. Sony/Playstation would be my prediction for the most flagrant offender if so but even the slightest whiff of Nintendo having fudged their numbers would absolutely destroy this fucking board.
>>719383197Just tell me how much it sold. Like, with numbers. "The most" is not a number. "Top of the charts" is also in fact, not a number.
I remember when a website published that the latest AC was the best-selling game of 2025, and on the same list they published, it was second behind FIFA, and that was only in Europe, and it was only physical games, and it was only a few games because games from Nintendo and other companies weren't included on the list for some reason.
>>719393631they don't need to fudge the numbers the way smaller companies do. they get zero interest loans directly from the bank of japan/government. the movie industry scam caused all sorts of movie theaters to go bankrupt because nobody went to see the movies so it exploded in their face. now the movie theaters are bankrupt and closed so they can't just keep pretending they're the best selling movies in history making records every other week.with sony/nintendo they just do bogus contracts involving revenue sharing/future sales/discounts and stuff like taking the advertisement budget and purchasing their own product or using the advertisement budget to give other companies money to take copies off their hands. like for example they can create a "promotional event" where they pay gamestop(or more shady stuff with pajeets) to promote their game, but there's a wink and a nod so they pay 1 million and then the company purchases 900,000 worth of copies. now they can write in the ledger they sold 1 million copies sorta deal and it's legit.
>>719393935this is why no one trusts gaming "journalists">it was the best selling game>actually it was the best new game>and only in Europe>and it still lost to an old copy of Fifa
The anti-chud demoralizers sure got quiet, huh
>>719383528Has any Nintendo game sold 10 million units this year?
>>719383298It's almost like every metric they put out was to convince shareholders to stay in the company and not sell off stocks to put the share value even lower
>>719386129Something we've known since pre-launch.
>>719383298They said best selling "new" game of 2025, retard. Not best selling game of 2025.
>>719387545both can be true. shills will go against any steam chart thread laughing at failing tripleA games, retards will see the shills and mistake it for board culture because /v/ is newfag central
>>719384124I asked a game dev what the industry thinks of Ubisoft and he said the only people who go there are juniors to get a project on their resume. No one plans to stay there more than 2 years.
>>719389067It had great initial sales then fell off hard. The previous two MonHun games had strong sales long after the release period so Capcom expected Wilds to perform the same. But I think they reported World was selling more copies recently.
>>719385051lmao
>>719398290retard
>>719389067Massive upfront sales, non-existent word-of-mouth
>>719385051Who are you talking to? Because I did not.
>>719383197Man, they really though Shadows was going to be their triump huh. How can the industry ever change when this is what they back as winners.
>>719383267>people want pozfests to stop>having the sales data to show that no one likes them>this will convince shareholders to pull out until ubishit corrects coursebetter question, why are you retarded?
I just want Ubisoft to make good Assassin's Creed games. Imagine how good one based on the Spanish independence war from the side of a big tittied ultra hot Spanish qt fighting off the frenchHOT
>>719387447Did this game get patched / improved enough that it's worth a pirate nowadays?
>>719383197Ubisoft not reporting numbers to third party people is understandable.However, they are also not reporting any numbers to their own fucking investors. That's how bad things have become for them. I don't know how that's even legal.
>I don't even need to look at sources, statistics or facts to know it sold like shit>I just know by instinct immediately>And I am right every single time>They even lied for weeks on end to push a narrative that it sold wellObviously Ubisoft bought copies of their own gameWhat a fucking joke of a company, how are they not bankrupt?
>>719401931If they showed the numbers to investors their stock prices might go even more down, you see.>>719401774This so very much!
>>719401905No but it got mods to replace the nigger with a blueberry alien or the blonde dark jedi girl from Ahsoka
I knew western developers were cooked when EA said some game didn't sell enough because it only sold X millions. At that point I was like if games are so expensive to make why aren't you just making cheaper games?
>>719397843I hope Silksong sells triple that amount as a fuck you to AAA devs wanting to sell 80+ dollar games.
>>719403886Silksong will sell a ton of on Nintendo so it's not like they lose. Indies and smaller games are best played on Nintendo now
Bump
>>719401774Assassin's creed as a concept has been beaten to death. You and Ubisoft need to move on.
>>719383197Ubisoft's decline just means that the industry is healing. People are tired of stale open world slop
>>719385051??? I haven't played a modern Ubishit games in almost a decade
>>719383298one of the worst top selling lists in gaming history? I mean the #1 seller doesn't even perform well. This is kinda sad
>>719383419it's been like this since gen 6 died nigga. gaming has no soul now
Every metric said this game flopped, but Ubisoft and their shills were adamant it was somehow a total success. Just think about how fucking STUPID you have to be to actually believe these bullshit numbers that publishers put out for PR purposes. You're not even cattle at that point, you're worse.
>>719383197Wait so players numbers did equate to copies sold?
>>719383248correct. Feels good. Trannys lost lol
>>719383298What a sad list
>>719383419how is this year any different from the usual AAA garbage
>>719384198This might be the coolest cat I've ever seen.
>>719383197It's the most sold game ever in Europe, chuddy! They just don't want to brag about the sales numbers because... because that would be rude to everyone else releasing a game. It's a little thing called HUMILITY, alright
>>719395067>FC 25Whats that?
>>719383298>shadows is the top 3 selling game still in August wtf I was told it failed? It was supposed to be a woke disaster? Wasn’t this supposed to force Ubisoft to shut down but now they get to strut around bragging about their sales??
>>719385194Why is it sad? Because it destroys your gay narrative?
SEAmonkey thread
>>719385539Yes, they learned they can make woke to their hearts content and succeed despite your screeching
Nigger's Creed lost
I am ready for a new ass creed
>>719403886Silksong is garbage vaporware why would you want it to suceed
>>719385051Wow, I did? I guess it's even more shit than I thought since I don't remember playing it at all!
>>719402024lol you one of the retards that shilled bg3 was just Chinese bots? Any lie to shill your narrative is justified right?
>>719387447Chartfags can be retarded niggers AND Ubisoft can be retarded niggers at the same time, anon. There is no limit to the number of niggers being retarded at the same time.
>>719395067
>players
>>719410617How do you measure success in the age of sub services?
>>719410275Sorry you lost your job at Ubishit.I hope you find a comfy factory job instead.
>>719410721>wage slavingLmao you do this cuck?
>>719385051No one played it. It's why we laughed at you from the start
>>719411084Apparently tons of people played it to the point it’s the second best selling game this year. That’s why we are grieving. Our narrative lost.
>>719411190>the second best selling game this year>in europe>in major markets>over 6 months>only among a few mainstream developers/publishersAlso it didn't make it's money back, but let's not talk about that.
