I'm praying to hitler, hoping this won't be UE5 slop.
>>719387601>Fallout 5 We'll get IRL Fallout before Bethesda can even begin Fallout 5
I absolutely NEED there to be vehicles in this game. It's time, Todd. Go full Mad Max, you know you guys want to.Or don't go full Mad Max, just let the player have a functional car with gas management and maintenance. We have gone through way too many of these dog shit games just walking around like total losers.
>>719387810Cars in Fallout would be stupid. It's a universe where mass shipping is still done by strapping packs to cows. Ignore all the helicopters everywhere.
>>719387601Starfield but without space
>>719387975saarfield*
>>719387914you fucking retard secondary, the player gets a drivable car in fallout 2
>ghoul cameo what? I gave up on bethesda and fallout ages ago but how is a ghoul in fallout a "cameo"? yes I know it's made up.
>>719387914The NCR has trucks for military transport at the very least, as well as functional railways.
>>719388082THE Ghoul
>>719387601>No NV RPG systemThen I'm not buying it.
>>719388152after I posted it I thought of Harold but you might be right after all, christ
>>719387601>settlement buildingI wish devs would stop making RPGs into The Sims, I don't give a fuck about interior design, furniture or gardening
>>719387601Another stupid retarded gimmick pushed by execs
>>719388176>>No NV RPG systemrick and morty in the desert is that way xir>>719388185I know.. new = bad
>gaybryo>drivable cars>"improving" F4 skill systemayylmao
>>719388267There's a mod that literally turns "Yes, No" dialogue options into full sentences. It's been ten years let it go.
>>719387601I also predict San Francisco because there are some hints and that we will be able to play as a ghoul which might cause people to react differently to you.
>>719388267Ackshully, breaking down conversations to simple "Respond positively" or "Respond negatively" would probably be a good idea. That's basically how they work in real life.
>>719388359Yes and all that mod does is expose how the four 'different' choices are almost always the same, sometimes even word-for-word.
>>719388225that's not it, I haven't watched the show, i just got caught up in the ghoul cameo part. is he the only one that shows up and is nameless?
lol guys I like umm netflix show and umm absolute dogshit parts of fallout 4are you mad??you mad?
>>719387601New York
>>719388410>That's basically how they work in real life.lmfao, do you have pre canned responses to situations in life that involve talking to robots or explaining yourself why you massacred a village?
>>719387601You'll get FO3 remake in UE5 next.
>>719387601fuck San Francisco
>>719387683>We'll get IRL Fallout before Bethesda can even begin Fallout 5I wish, we are getting mad max instead. No interesting world or monster slaying adventures, We are getting cannibalism and serfdom.
>>719388202you can completely skip settlement building in fallout 4
>>719387601>Driveable cars>More emphasis on settlement buildingI can already tell from playing other 3d fallouts this game will look like a game from 2009 and be glitchy as fuck
>>719387601>"More emphasis on settlement building"Yup, it's gonna be trash. Settlement building was the worst thing to come to Bethesda games.
>>719388359And all it ultimately does is reveal how shit the writing actually is and that several options actually have the EXACT SAME voice line when you select them.
>>719389192i played on pc and liked it. every single playthrough i bothered to chain the supply lines and make one of the settlements my base.
>>719388202What, you didn't like exploring and having a 1/3 of the locations you find being generic fuck all because YOU were suppose to turn it into something interesting? On top of the generic randomized loot with very few actual uniques and the power of the infinite quest system of go here kill X.
>>719389192it was the only good thing about F4 and then they completely fucked it up in shartfield
>>719387683>We'll get IRL Fallout before Bethesda can even begin Fallout 5Don't give them any ideas bro
>>719387914Shut the fuck up you queer. If some vodka swilling holol can do it on a shoe string in a mod with smelly feet and deathclaw tits Todd can certainly do it with state backing. If the base building autists can have their cake and eat it too so can the vehclefags and their rolling convoys.
>>719389992lol you don't understand the fundamentals
Todd would rather eat shit than change the engine
Doesn't saarfield have cars? Why is everyone acting like its an impossibility
Fallout is fundamentally too Reddit Quirk Chungus for me as a setting
>carretarded, now everything has to be designed around shitty vehicles so its going to be open, flat and empty or barely use the thing so its wasted time and effort>f4 skillsabsolute shit>more settlement shitworthless feature shoehorned in is going to be just as useless and shoehorned in, I so loved being able to make 3 empty shacks before the limit got hit maybe the next trash will let me have 4 empty shacksSo how they gonna fuck up the MC again? Force em to be black, gay and french?
>>719388359>It's been ten years let it go.It'll be 20 years by the time Fallout 5 comes out and it will make Fallout 4 look like some Balls Gay 3 level storytelling by comparison. Boiling the designs down to a simple sloppa is a Todd staple now. Skyrim 2 might be lucky to even have axes and hammers as separate weapon categories considering they gutted out longswords, short blades and spears from their last two attempts. You don't need variety when we define what is acceptable.
>>719387601>Getting excited for a Bethesda product>After StarfieldLiterally ngmi
>>719388027saarfailed*
I can only assume unarmed and melee combat to be even more underwhelming since bethesda hates it with a passion.
>>719387601Fallout was NEVER good
>>719387601But I never played 4?
>>719390348 >After Starfield Bro I wouldn’t preorder a Bethesda game even if Todd himself showed up at my door wearing a Vault Boy suit and offering to mow my lawn. The bar is underground at this point and somehow they keep digging. It’s not even skepticism anymore, it’s PTSD.
>>719388267>>gaybryo>>drivable carsthere's a mod for new vegas that does that and it drives really well. I did a run where i played as venom snake and pretty much used the car to travel between points of interest the whole run. The cars felt nice and pretty fun to drive
>>719387601The story will be shit and it will have no RPG elements at all but it will have a crap base building that won't work at launch.
>>719387601I would say abysmal dogshit but that’s Bethesda’s MO so I can’t really think of any words that go beyond that that don’t sound retarded. I guess hadopelagic dogshit?
>>719388359No they suck the mods for fallout 4 barely fucking work.
>>719388225Can you give any recent development in Fallout that hasn’t been absolute ass?
>>719390256It’s not, you just only see the aspects of it that are that because you’re a “ Reddit Quirk Chungus” faggot.
>>719391407>the mods for fallout 4 barely fucking work.I really don't understand why it keeps fucking up, Fallout 4 is one of the only Bethesda games I can't mod without it crashing constantly.
>>719388359>just lower your standards to that of people beneath youNo, I don't think I ever will answer to cumstains.
>>719387601Paid mods, so no you won't get something as expensive as sim settlements with all of the extensions. Or something as comprehensive as legacy of the dragon born. Or anything cool using the script extender. Also no mods will work together with ease because compatibly patches are killInstead you'll get modders doing what economic incentives tell them to do aka high volume low effort
>Fallout 4 comes out>Bethesda expects you to have fun by building settlements, especially since there's only like 2 towns>Fallout 76 comes outBethesda expects you to have fun by building settlements, also fuck NPCs lol>Starfield comes out>Bethesda expects you to have fun by building settlements on fuck nothing to do 1000 planetsSee this shit? They think we're retarded, they want us to "develop" the rest of the game. They got lazy. We want engaging quests, locations and choices and story like their older games, while they want to half ass all their work just by making Minecraft.ES6 will probably just be Fallout 4 and dragons destroyed everything instead of nukes.
>>719391793No they think that their fans are retarded, which they are since they keep buying and defending the games and worshipping the manlet. Shartfield seemed to get more outraged but it still has plenty of dicksuckers.
>play starfield from gamepass for a couple days>bethesda keeping hard PC crashes from the 90s alive with their archaic codeIf BSOD were still a possible windows screen, that's what Fallout 5 would offer.
>>719387601Pronouns
>>719391764>>719391764This paid mods make the economic incentives all fucked up and so you get far lower quality and a worse experience for the end user
mods will fix it is such a delusional oldfag cope
>>719387601>no you virgins this is our hobby nowliterally textbook
I've said it before here on /v/ and I'll say it again... We need a convergence of The Sole Survivor leading the Institute with an army of synths, the Courier with his Big MT enhanced robots and the Lone Wanderer leading the BoS all clashing in one final showdown - or coming together and saving the Wasteland for good. This will require declaring certain endings canon, however. For fucks sake the Courier has access to hard light technology and food replicator machines, the Wasteland shouldn't be a thing any more.
Anybody have the .webm of oliver?
>>719391267To be fair paying 70-80 bucks to have Todd mow you lawn is a bad deal. What if he allowed you to flog him while he did it?
>>719391793Bethesda games are sandboxes for manbabies and they now come with Microsoft's pozzing.
>>719387601>more emphasis on settlement buildingthe other thing i hated in fallout 4 besides the level scaling, oh god
>>719388741This, it will be released in parallel with season 2 of the show for maximum gainz
>>719393303Doesn't the Lone Wander have access to alien tech too? Mothership Zeta. Damn, that's not the worst idea I've ever heard.
>>719393989All their games are just shitty base building, scavenging games, like a shitty Project Zomboid or something. No longer do we get cool adventures, or an RPG.
The only good Fallout is Underrail
>>719395218based
>>719387601>Go play DnDBut FO4 perks resemble feats way more than FNV statsAnyway if they're going to push settlmeents even harder I hope they go all in into making a Mount and Blade clone
I'll never understand why people love this franchise or bethesda games.
>>719396491>I'll never understand why people love this franchise Classic Fallouts>or bethesda games.No arguments from me
>>719388267>>gaybryo>>drivable carswhat do you think sentry bots are you retard
>>719396491>why people love this franchiseThey don't Classicfags are the worst
>>719387601My hopes aren't high, coming off my first playthrough of Fallout 4. I had a better time than I expected after hearing nothing but bad things for a decade, but the things that really killed FO4 for me were:>poor role-playing options in quests>over-reliance on settlement building>shallow (vanilla) settlement options>abundance of irritating glitchesThe game doesn't give you compelling options for role-player, both due to shallow writing and a voiced protagonist. It expects you to make your own fun with settlements, but without mods, you'll be limited in what you can achieve, even using the various helpful glitches.And the glitches...they unironically made me have less fun than the glitches I experienced playing New Vegas on PS3. I *think* that was due to the majority of glitches I experienced on PS3 being discrete events (crashes, stuttering) that were "solved" on reset. The glitches in FO4 were often small things that became chronic annoyances. Console commands bailed me out a few times, but it wasn't a silver bullet for everything I encountered. Not sure how much of this was caused by the "Next Gen" update. Never played before it dropped.>tldrFinish the fucking game next time, and remove voiced protagonist if you're serious about having modders "fix" the game.
>liberty primewe'll never see him again, too right wing. Funny because Bethesda people now are a bunch of DEI hires on top of a pajeet sweatshop. Fallout 5 will be anti-american, anti-capitalist, anti-white or it simply won't be
It will be >San Francisco (literally the most boring uninspired location they could possibly come up with so that’s what they’ll do)>Power Armor again >The BOS again>The Enclave again >The NCR again>More broken lore>More shitty borderlands tier writing>More shitty artThey are going to rape fallout 1 and 2 lore over a bunch of hot coals while chasing dumb gimmicky shit like they do with every title.
>>719387601>West CoastI doubt it.
>>719387601>more emphasis on settlement buildingkill me now
>>719387601bug-infested gembryo morrowind engine in 2030 coded by jeets, horribly optimized, game dumbed down even further, plot written by emil and completely schitzophrenic and terrible. mods are paid-only.
>>719388202The issue with settlement building is it doesn't service a fucking purpose>oh you can make food and waterWhich are never in short supply>you can err uhm hmmExactly.
>>719387601You'll get even less content to make way for even more radiant settlement bullshit that nobody likes or wants.
>you WILL fight the fascist, racist, transphobic BOS>you WILL have trans, POC and gay companions>you WILL love that every 2nd NPC is a black character>you WILL love the quirky chungus reddit one liners>you WILL love the ugly, shitty weapons, that don`t fit in the world>you WILL search on your knees for every little scrap, which totally WILL disrupt the whole immersion and game pace>you WILL do side quests, that include finding hormones for your trans companion>you WILL fight for supermutant and ghoul rights, because the WHITE MAN is the true horror of the apocalypse
>>719398632Bethesda will never make a Fallout game on the west coast.
>>719398868I think it could have worked because I fell down the settlement building rabbit hole for tens of hours. Ultimately, the reward for wrestling the building system is not worth it, and none of it makes up for a lack of pre-established settlements.
>>719399209>you WILL fight the fascist, racist, transphobic BOSThe BOS are really fucking stupid in 4, but I enjoyed their late-game quests the most out of the available factions. >yeah...there are some synth lovers squatting in these catacombs>tag up with a SWAT team and vaporize themThere's something comical about storming that shithole in maxed out power armor and effortlessly mowing down one of the main factions. Anti-climactic in a good way.
>>719387601If fallout 5 comes out before elder scrolls I swear...
>>719388202I wish they would improve that shit and focus on settlement defense rather than it being only fallout sims.Sure, keep the sims part but add and focus on defense. Add a settlement defense mechanic that isn't 5 retard raiders spawning in the very same place every time just to get fucked by 4 miniguns every single fucking time.Add real raids, sieges or even infiltrations from the enemy factions. Add sappers that can blow up your walls, super mutant behemoth that can just break them, perhaps vehicles that can jump over your walls if terrains allow or use them for hit and run raids if you don't have a proper defense.Something more than just fallout simsHoly crap ...So much wasted potential in fo4
After Saarfield why would anyone have any faith in this game?
>>719387975so starfield
>>719387914You are a retarded secondary. Vertibirds, cars, railways, ships, and bikes exist in the universe. Just because some piss-poor villages and outposts doesn't have access to those doesn't mean the larger areas and factions don't.
>>719388152>*rapes ghoul lore*nothing personnel kid
>>719389138And lose out on entire questlines, game mechanics and XP.
>>719388202>>719399131>>719400369>Build up a settlement that has huge walls lined with turrets of all kinds>Give all the settlers top-tier weapons and armor>Enough food and water that would make a well-stocked vault look barren in comparison>Get a quest that tells me 3 raiders with pipe pistols managed invade the place and kidnap someone they are now holding for ransom
>>719387601>Ghoul CameoOWHoly KINOly! What will codpiece's stats be like?
>>719404929>well fortified settlement>receive notification to defend it>mid-quest on something else>"they'll be fine">they aren'tSure do love the immersion that comes from pipe-wielding raiders not only surviving the onslaught of turrets but also breaking all of my shit and running off with my goodies.
>>719388124The trucks could just have been there since before WW3, but the NCR definitely has trains.
>>719387601You're right, it'll be gamebryo slop.Driveable cars? Nigger you're not even going to get ladders.
My dream Fallout>a couple decades after the war>radiation levels barely low enough to survive on the surface>all of manhattan island to explore>be fresh grunt in reilly's rangers-type outfit>go on missions in the ruins of NYC>scouting locations, scavenging for supplies, mapping routes>2-3 man squad of medic, coms officer, gunner/marksman>typical Fallout RPG fare of story/choices/twists and turns>ghouls, mutants and raiders of various types as enemies>partly proc gen loot and scavenging system>central park as woods area with mutated wildlife so it doesn't get too stale>everything else is streets, alleys, highrise buildings and sewers or metro tunnels>non-hostile life is rare and mostly clustered in 2-3 heavily fortified town-like locations>information is currency in this barter system>you can find new recruits in those town locations or scavenging in the ruins>recruits can become squad mates>squad mates can become companions>companions can become more>affinity system>no friendly mutants or ghouls>what if metro was an RPG really
>>719390259The Highwayman could drive up mountains in Fallout 2 because it was an electric car that had over 700 horsepower.
>>719390507True, but it just got worse over time.
>>719398392>An extremely cool condemnation of the pre-WW3 USA's skewed priorities>Bad
>>719406606Who gives a shit about Fallout 2? How is some old whatever the fuck top down turn based game in any way similar to a 3d open world janky ass physics hell that we know F5 is going to be. "But muh fallout 2" has zero bearing on what might be because theyre in no way going to face the same issues.
I can't launch NV so I settled for 4. Its a nice break from swords and magic but I was actually hoping for an elder scrolls game.
>>719387601Looter ShooterNo repair even for power armor3 speech choices maxTacked on crafting and base building
>>719387601>What can we expect from Fallout 5?A more hopeful setting than Starfield.
Can someone explain to me briefly wtf is the point of building houses at the settlement in 4. Lots of broken houses i can get stuff out of and rebuild, but is there really no house preset? I really have to do it wall by wall? Even worse, there's no lock to grid so it looks messy.
>>719391558because to get the settlement system to "just work" they relied on a garbage pile of software hacks which topples at the slightest change, case in point not even the DLC functioning with it correctly (every time you put an object in the vault settlement it permanently alters pathfinding in every interior cell in the game)
>>719407230>wtf is the point of building houses at the settlement in 4to attract (man)children
>>719399613>The BOS are really fucking stupid in 4The BOS are based. The developers must have realised that they made them too based, so they added in some retarded stuff at the last minute.>There's something comical about storming that shithole in maxed out power armor and effortlessly mowing down one of the main factions. Anti-climactic in a good way.What I found funny is that the Railroad's super-secret base has a line leading directly to it and has the password written down, so it relies entirely on the fact that most wastelanders are illiterate and that the route passes by enemies like hostile super mutants and feral ghouls. The Railroad's main enemies are the Institute (who are literally mad scientists descended from MIT) and the BOS (who are descended from the US army), and they have been watching the Sole Survivor (who was alive before WW3), all of whom are literate and capable of combat. By the time that the average player is introduced to them, they will already have a proper set of power armour and weapons and will have set up most of the settlements. It required extreme restraint to not gun these retards down on the spot, while at the end, the BOS just uses some plastic explosives to destroy the brick wall.
>>719387601>Fallout 5>player character is an NCR citizen >Shady Sands is a nearly modern metropolis, with cars, trains, safe streets, hospitals, factories, you name it>a big construction project has begun, attempting to link the NCR with the nascent Great Lakes Confederation via a transcontinental railway.>thousands of workers are needed for this huge and dangerous project, and your character decides to join>game is a series of open world maps instead of one large one, like how Death Stranding handled its different regions>the theme of the game is venturing out from civilization into the dangerous frontier>along the way a huge threat emerges, stories and quests happen, etc.It'd be thematically in keeping with Fallout, being a retelling of the real life story of the Transcontinental Railroad (a thoroughly American venture), while representing a new paradigm of the "wild west" of the future. Think Once Upon a Time in the West, but Fallout.
>>719404929>>719406273It's entirely based on two equations.https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_settlements#Settlement_attacksThe Sole Survivor must PERSONALLY build the settlements and must PERSONALLY drop whatever they are doing and go over there to watch the settlements that they built shred the attackers.
>>719406890Fallout 1's intro advertised the Highwayman.As the other anon said, just reuse some of the code from the Sentry Bots.
>>719399131Side hustle
>>719407257>every time you put an object in the vault settlement it permanently alters pathfinding in every interior cell in the gamewhat the fuck
In the 10 years its going to take for Fallout 5 they have the time to make a new engine with all the shiny features they might want, with mod support OFC. No chance it happens because Bethesda cant have modders fix that.
>>719407257I thought that that was just if you built more than a certain threshold in that vault.So should I just not touch that quest at all?
>>719407919Honestly, more in line with how a modern fallout game and setting should be. Being the case, Todd would never allow it.
>>719407919>just a man>an ancient raceLoved the split second flashback to Hyperborea right then and there. They don't make 'em like they used to.
>>719387914>HUGE fallout fan shocked to hear about fallout 2 having driveable vehicles
>>719403775No you don't understand. The fallout setting is perpetually stagnated and no one has the ability to develop anything close to modern standards when it comes to infrastructure. The world is over!
>>719410063I know, sadly. Bethesda would never allow the setting to progress the way that F1, 2 and NV did. Bethesda Fallout is stuck in a perpetual 2100, despite the in-game dates saying otherwise. And they'll never go back to the West, unless it's a reboot to rape the lore. I don't know why Bethesda is so committed to setting fallout on the east coast, it makes no sense for the themes of the game or even the American story of forging civilization out from the wild western frontier. Is it as stupid and simple as "there are more people living on the east coast, therefore if we set the game on the east coast we draw in a potentially larger audience"?
>>719387601If they had any balls at all it'd be Fallout 5: Enclave.
>>719410298>Harmonica and Frank confront each other to settle a score from a time of bandits and wilderness, with the sounds of industry and civilization rapidly closing the wild west in the background Pure unadulterated kino.
>>719388202This, I hated settlement building in Fallout 4. I wanted an RPG with a comfy player home that maybe I could decorate, not to have to make my own settlements and there were so fucking many of them that were do it yourself. Bethesda instead of letting the modders fix it on release wanted teh players to build it themselves. Total fucking garbage.
>>719411112You do know settlement building was entirely optional and the game does have a comfy player home that you can decorate, right?
>>719411112The only place settlement building really works is in a fallout remake with (you) building what becomes Arroyo. But even then Todd and his team of doodle dandies would ruin it by only giving you rusty sheet metal and rotting wood debris assets. And somehow there would still be towels and trashcans all over the place
>>719410918Fonda just makes a great villain: Once Upon a Time in the West, 12 Angry Men, great films.
>more emphasis on settlement building it was over before it began
>>719411179>Erm, chudigga, the backbone of the game is entirely optional!Jeet or tranny. Call it.
>>719388152>frog and D lister show up >you can't kill them because Todd makes them sentient unkillable God entities like all of his other low rent games
>>719411305>12 Angry MenAlways good to find another person who recognizes he's the villain of that film. All he does is browbeat everyone into letting a murderer go free. They showed a problem with the jury system in that film all right. But not the one they thought they did.
>>719411429>the backbone of the gameWhat are you talking about? You can go through the entire main quest, and pretty much every side quests that does not involve the minutemen, without ever building a single settlement, you retard.
>>719411179The player homes aren't available until around midgame. In the meantime, the player character's actual home in Sanctuary Hills is just another home in the settlement.
>>719411681>The player homes aren't available until around midgame.Diamond City is not midgame. You can run straight to it as soon as you exit the vault because it's all low level between the two locations.
>not one singular functioning city >just a ramshackle baseball stadium that looks like the remnants of society 2 years after the bombs fell Todd is so incredibly lazy and or stupid it comes around to being fascinating.
Can we realistically expect Fallout 5 before 2030?
>>719411819His post apocalyptic societies are hung up on the apocalypse part like a guy thinking about a girl who left him a decade ago
>>719387601I didn't even hate settlement building in 4, there just wasn't a good reason to engage with it. If they expand the mechanics (and let you build things besides trash heaps) I'd be fine with that.
>>719412085>there just wasn't a good reason to engage with itSurvival mode. They're save locations.
>What can we expect?saarfield,but somehow even worse
>>719410000You can fix it with a mod called Interior NavCut Fix, technically this bug exists in every interior settlement but Vault 88 is the biggest one in the game so it can easily cause a lot of trouble compared to small stuff like Homeplate.But honestly Vault 88 isn't worth the trouble. The quest is really bad (build a new vault toy, build a terminal, set new toy to good/neutral/evil alignment, repeat until you runs out of vault toys), the workshop objects are bugged (you need another mod to fix it, V88 Essentials), one of the vault residents keeps repeating the same stupid shit every time he interacts with the new workshop objects so using it as your home is basically torture. The only good thing about it is being able to build something that doesn't look like a junkyard house in other settlements (but you need to beat the quest to unlock all workshop objects).
>>719387914Tactics had vehicles
Can we please go back to having raider armor as Mad Max themed? The welded pipes poking from everywhere look in F4 sucks
>several playable races, each with their own starting location>can swap between 1st, 3rd person and isometric>introduce psychic powers >add argonians and khajiits for fun
>Sole Survivor, help! We need you to kill these raiders/super mutants/feral ghouls/whatever!>Done. Also here's some food, water, power, beds, shelter, amenities, and a gorillion turrets. Now leave me alone.
>>719388359The problem is that there's only 4 sentences and that there's always 4 sentences
>>719387601crossover with nortubel
>>719387601fallout 5 will take place in the imperial wasteland (london) to shit all over the modit will deconstruct every attempt at world building they established and todd will send the mordders a free copy
>>719412486How is that a problem? You can have three sentences and have the fourth option be a link to four more options. Or three and and the fourth option is a link to even more options. Duplicate options looks sloppy but is not a problem to gameplay whatsoever. This is just getting pissy over inconsequential shit.
>>719412686Pretty funny that they thought Bethesda owed them a heads up or needed to coordinate an update with them as a modding team. Were they stupid?
>>719412780>my rpg doesn't need rpg gameplayYeah, we know you have lower standards.
>>719412813To be fair, it's not unheard of for devs to do that. Usually it's just they let the modders get early access to a patch. But it is rare.
>>719412885>it's only an rpg if the dialogue options are presented in a very specific manner, the number of dialogue options is not actually importantYou're an idiot.
What do you expect from lessers who think Fallout is still Fallout when they are too incompetent to have a working character sheet where stats still supersede any and all direct player input. There are dumb dumbs who think the combat should play like low rent fps first and foremost.
>>719412434>settlement gets raided>fast travel to it>turrets weren't doing shit>turns out the raiders just spawned in the middle of the settlementThanks Todd
>>719387601>What can we expect from Fallout 5?
>OHMYGOD IS DAT LE HECKIN GHOUL (not even voiced by the original actor because he's too big for video games even as a B-lister)>OHMYGOD IS DAT LE HECKIN LUCY (also not voiced by her original actor)>OHMYGOD IS DAT LE HECKIN KNIGHT NEGRO (voiced by the original actor because unlike the others in the show he played Fallout games)
>>719413140>he doesnt have turrets facing inward to gun down jihadis disguised as crack merchants you were bound to encounter this issue eventually
>>719413140That's why you spread turrets around the settlement, not just in the edges. You still have to go there personally to watch your turrets shred the enemies.
>>719412780>four identical "choices">How is that a problem?saar...
>>719388801nigger fuck you, I love the bay :3
>>719407919
>>719412780>>719413010>no skills/attribute checks outside of speech checks>dialogue only splinters when you need to ask 3 trivia questions>rest of the time it's 2-3 agree prompts and 1 disagree prompt>sometimes all 4 prompts are the same exact thing>[Glass Him] moments happen sometimes because of the short names on the promptsCome on, it was objectively a bad system. Even Bethesda realized that and went back when making Saarfield.
>>719413552>todd reveals they course corrected with starfield and went back to a voiceless protagonist>but also they were fully planning on having a voiced protagonist during developmentI hate tennis boy so much it's unreal.
>>719413381>You still have to go there personally to watch your turrets shred the enemiesKinda fucked how Bethesda released a workshop update to "fix" this specific issue (security cameras), sold it for $10 (the Settlement Ambush Kit creation) and then made sure it didn't fix the issue at all (you still need to visit a settlement to access the security terminal).
>>719403864Not really. People have been searching for a way to prevent feralization. The cocktail treatment is probably just s follow up on that
>>719413829Fallout 4's quest with the ghoul magician states that all ghouls go feral eventually.
>>719414261You will too with the chems. It's just a treatment that stsves it off until you build up resistance to it
>>719387601>What can we expect from Fallout 5?Idk, let's ask Todd... oh...
>>719414990So the BOS are just retarded hecking chuds now? And ghouls are just shallow sociopathic assholes?
We have 3 and 4 to look at so we can expect it to play mostly the same, borrow elements like you being from a vault with 0s and 1s in the number and the plot being about your going after a family memeber and you ending the game with fighting the baddies living in an underground hideout, Bortherhood will be there and so on.Pure cancer and lore rape just like it has always been.
>>719415420>So the BOS are just retarded hecking chuds now?They're retarded chuds who now control pretty much the entire wasteland so they're the default bad guy now, and they fly now.>And ghouls are just shallow sociopathic assholes?That need special vials to not turn feral for some reason. Maybe they'll make the player character a ghoul not only so you can enjoy an annoying timer mechanic but also to teach the audience body positivity.
>>719414990>putting_thrusters_on_a_ragdoll_in_gmod.webm
>>719415808>More lore ruining and a tranny allegoryGreat...
I don't think there will be a fallout 5. They'll just keep rehashing 76 with microtransactions until the end of time.>>719414990Cancer like the TV show has forever tainted Fallout with the normgroid audience as well, not looking good.
>>719387601Frank Horrigan died in Fallout 2, and his body was likely vaporized when the Oil Rig exploded. How could he still be alive?
Settlement building is the worst thing bethesda ever introduced. Closely followed by the voiced protagonist
>>719403864based if true
>>719388267>Fallout 4 was ten years agoMr. Time slow the ride.
>>719411179>the game being shit is okay because you can just quit the gametechnically
>>719416235>Mr. Time slow the ride.Is that from a song or something? The cadence of this sentence and the slant rhyme of time/ride is perfect, like a Steppenwolf lyric. If it isn't, can I steal this?
>>719413456Anon plz explain your response.
>>719412780yes, yes it could have done that. but it didn't
>>719416082>I don't think there will be a fallout 5.They'll definitely make one since the TV show was so popular. They've wiped away the West Coast precisely so they could have carte blanche to do whatever they want there.
>>719416473Nah, I made it up on the spot. Or at least I can't tell if my subconscious didn't take it from somewhere I don't remember. You don't need my blessing to use it if you want.
>>719387601>skill system>DnDKid detected
>>719388267>GamebryoThey haven't used that since Fallout 3
>>719388225Why does this board hate the original games and NV so much? You guys are why Fallout 5 will be shit. Reddit and /v/ shares the same stupid ass opinions.
>>719415808>Um, actually, attacking the evil cannibalistic raiders, super mutants, feral ghouls, etc. that have the mutilated bodies of their victims on display is actually a hecking genocide of wastelanders and isn't doing anything to make the wastelanders safer!
>>719417950Because it's redditors that hate the west coast games and are shilling on here.
>>719411458>you can have sex with froppy now with mods
>>719418051That's who Bethesda will be listening to. We're going to get the game that those retards want.
>>719387601Idk I’m not really interested in Fallout anymore
>>719387601Driveable cars sounds neat. In fact if it became a post apocalypse game where you're just a man making it by with his custom built car, scavenging and improving his shit... that would be kino.UE5 would be the death sentence however.
>>719417950They’re just pretending to hate it to farm (You)’s, and it works.
>>719418249It'll be UE 6 or 7 by the time that they release Fallout 5
>>719418293Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, though. I'm glad that devs don't usually come here to steal ideas.
>>719418138Eh. Starfield was shit, but they did take steps to make it more of an RPG after people shit on FO4 for barely being an RPG.
>>719418487How was it more of an RPG? It felt very much the same to me but worse. It had nearly the same perk system, base building, gun play, etc. I guess you can argue that the loot being similar to diablo with "epic" items and such made it a bit more RPG-like.
>>719387601>What can we expect from Fallout 5?More lorerape, more trash heap piles, more inane dialogue and quests and even less RPG elements.
>>719387601The TV show is Fallout 5 according to Todd you dumb fuck. The next game entry will be Fallout 6. Fucking idiot
>>719418692>No more voice protag>Skill checks>Background options in character creation>No more 4 choice, shortened responsesIt's not much, but after FO4, the change was noticeable. I'm just hoping that BG3 was influential to make them realise that all normalfags need to play an RPG are shallow romance options and a class system with an auto levelup option.
>>719418946I guess I didn't notice that they changed the 4 choice response system because the dialogue in general was so fucking boring. That is a step in the right direction at least. They need to fire whoever wrote Starfield's shitty story. It made Fallout 4's story seem like the greatest story I've ever experienced in a video game by comparison.
>>719418946>the change was noticeable It's so weird that they seem to understand the concepts of what everyone wants, yet continue to fall short, and are incapable of delivering when it counts.
>>719409451are you really surprised considering the same team made train hat?
>>719419106>Will ShenHe left. But I don't really blame him. It looks like the game had to be redone at some point and the MSQ doesn't really fit in with it. The temples don't even have bosses
>>719407257>(every time you put an object in the vault settlement it permanently alters pathfinding in every interior cell in the game)Good Lord.
>>719419106>because the dialogue in general was so fucking boringA Bethesda staple.Honestly, people rightfully pointed out how simplistic Fo4's dialogue options where, but play Skyrim and notice how dull all the options are, you can't really define a personality or a character with them.
>>719419268Train hat was actually smart.
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>>719387914Don't tell the New Vegas troons this. They will go into a seething rage about how the NCR has had drivable cars in their fan fiction since Fallout 2 despite it NEVER being shown in game or any canon material to be the case. Especially not at large scale like they claim.
>>719389191>bitching about graphicsShills just want movies
>>719419441It was never the greatest but the dialogue was far less interesting in Starfield than it was in Skyrim and Fallout 4. It was so boring in Starfield that I'd actually doze off at times. No bullshit. I was so checked out by the 35 hour mark that I forced myself to beat the game just to move on from it. Obviously, all of the quests in general being boring didn't help things either. There were some cool quests in Fallout 4 and Skyrim. I can't think of a single one that I enjoyed in Starfield.
>>719387601>What can we expect from Fallout 5?Shit.
Personally im hoping for NIGGER slaver factions. I want to actively hunt down capture and sell the filthy KIKE wastelander scum for money. Hopefully there will be a place that exclusively buys children to ensure CUNNY WOMB BUSTING the game is very realistic. But we all know it'll be made by STREET SHITTING PAJEETS
>>719419265I genuinely think Todd or Emil is under the impression that normalfags flee from anything that isn't dumb downed to it's very core. Emil especially seems to think that normalfags don't care about writing, so putting too much effort into it is a waste of time.
>>719387601im boredsomeone pitch me cook ideas
>>719419717NO
>>719420274>cook ideasWhat?
>>719420171That's just Slavers in FO3, even the leader of the slavers was a black dude.
>>719387601>emphasis on settlement buildingStraight into the trash it goes.
>>719420405He meant cock ideas. You know, like another name for a rooster.
>>719420551I want to see more big black roosters in Fallout 5.
>>719387601Fallout 5 is never coming out. ES6 won't release for at least another half a decade and that's being generous. It'll be about twenty years between releases for that dogshit studio.
What engine is obsidian using for their current IP? >inb4 shitting on avowed or outer boredom I only ask for an alternative so Bethesda can escape from gamebroyo 5.12 or whatever they’re on
>>719420003Skyrim is a great game. It has many many many faults, but it's undeniable how much it draws you in and keeps you attention. Even years after, people still boot it and play it and get lost in it.Bethesda can't do these games anymore. Fo4 couldn't retain the same level of devotion and Starfield couldn't get even close
>>719420726The one silver lining or caveat of Microsoft owning them is that they can outsource the IP to other Microsoft subsidiaries and Bethesda has to get on board with it.
>>719420423And is it any PAKI surprise why aside from fo1&2 fo3 is the best WETBACK for being an outright cunt? Not that the HOOKNOSE SPIC SYMPATHIZERS normies of this place would ever admit the game got something right.
>>719420737UE5 for Avowed
>>719420737>Another retard crying about the engineDon't you ever get tired of being so stupid?
>>719387601Sounds awfulLiking FO4 is a good litmus test for having no fucking taste at all
>>719420617>>719420551giant cock enemy when
>>719420617>Black chickens survived WW3 with fewer mutations than the ones in Far Harbor because of high melanin levels or whatever
>>719388267>dialogue-driven RPG where you play a silent autist and all the NPCs need to guess what you want by your expressionthis would be fucking tight
>>719420747Yeah, I think Skyrim is a great game, too. It gets unfairly hated on IMO. It's my favorite ES game next to Morrowind. I want the next ES game to have a main story and mechanics like Morrowind but with modernized melee combat. That will never happen though.
>>719421005Yeah other devs have been able to use gamebryo successfully. Apparently it’s above the skill level of Bethesda’s overpaid creative team. Do you Amber grt tired of mouthing off?
>>719420737Fuck you, creation engine is fine.Any faults with the engine are due to Bethesda's incompetence so they wouldn't do any better if they had a different one.Besides, you know there's only one shitty engine AAA will ever use from now on and it's even worse.
>>719421263And yet none of them have made games like Bethesda. In fact, nobody makes games like Bethesda, which is the only reason they still have an audience. But tell me, do you think Bethesda's writing, gameplay and level design will magically improve tenfold if they switch over to a different engine?
>>719406396>no friendly mutants or ghoulsgiga based
>>719421582>In fact, nobody makes games like Bethesda,Not even Bethesda makes games like Bethesda.They can't replicate the success of Skyrim
>>719421684Only Starfield has been the outlier, and that is entirely due to their shitty decision to make a space game AND use procgen.
>>719422556>Only Starfield has been the outlier4 was less popular than Skyrim
>>719423805Because fantasy is a morenpopular genre. Also FO4 is more difficult to mod and the modders of Skyrim refused to and actively prevented others from moving over certain tools to FO4. Sounds crazy but the cliqued that have influence over the modding scene are even crazier
>>719388359>>719391282>there's a mod
>>719416102AI copy in a robot body, hence vs. Liberty Prime
>>719407919>Shady SandsWas destroyed in the TV show, lorelet. NCR is gone
>>719424307Fallout 4 basically shot itself the foot with it's voiced protag with a fix'd background and an obsession with settlements. So many fucking places in that game that seemed interesting ended up being shitty settlements.
>>719421582I agree with you, but Bethesda is now fully owned by Microsoft and they will railroad them into UE5 eventually. Ironically, Todd is probably the one person who can prevent that but he's not going to work there forever. We'll get FO5, it will be UE slop, it will go on Gamepass day 1 and after a few weeks of "X million players!" posts on Bluesky it will disappear completely from the consciousness of gamers.Todd should deadman's switch the CE/GB source code. He leaves or gets fired, there's now a way for everyone to play and enjoy TES/FE (and SF I guess) for all time and there's nothing MS can do about it.
>>719390256This
>>719387601>what can we expectDisappointment.
>>719426465Not likely, but possible. I think TES/Fallout being whored out to other MS studios will happen before MS forces BGS to drop Creation Engine.
>>719407751>The BOS are basedMaxson is kind of retarded when it comes to his hyper-fixation on destroying synth technology, but luckily for the BOS, the remaining factions are either more retarded (Institute/Railroad) or just boring (Minutemen). The Railroad is dangerously retarded in their ideals, and it's gross that they're fine with slaughtering innocents to free synths. The Institute would be an easy winner if you could actually reform some of their less savory tactics (synth replacements, for starters) and become more self-isolationist. It's frustrating that every faction seems fine with losing all data from the Institute, unless I missed a plot point there.
>>719419884>le schizo
>>719429498I'm afraid it's been 9 years since I've played Fallout 4, but didn't the railroad's leader reveal that she's driven by her love of a dead husband that was replaced by a synth. And that's why she's so die hard fucked in the head ass backwards?
>>719429498It's because your only means of attack against them was a sneak attack through the sewers to activate the transporter. You were attacking to blow up the place on all routes other than the Institute. The institute is otherwise tol protected and they would eventually win otherwise
>>719387601>picIt's going to be an absolute disaster by the looks of it. Though I'm glad Bethesda has finally dropped all pretense and are making pure action games with light rpg coating.>>719417784They have, retard. All of their games run on engines that are essentially modified gamebryo. They've just renamed it for marketing purposes.
>>719388202I hate how it made 70% of the loot you find garbage crafting materials that have no other in-game function. >OH HELL YEAH! I FOUND (7) RUBBER!!!! FUCK!!!!!said no one ever
>>719419441The player dialogue choices in Skyrim are just serviceably generic, so plain and inoffensively bland it could fit any character. Starfield and FO4's player dialogue is written with more character but that character is a massive fag. It's like the prose pf an instruction manual vs. a reddit post, neither is winning any awards but one of them pisses me off.
>>719388202The engine is well suited to it. Even Morrowind has settlement building now.
>>719387601>hoping this won't be UE5Holy shit just buy a new computer.
>>719430446The creators of Gamebryo have stated that Bethesda replaced most every part of the engine by the release of Skyrim
>>719387810The world's hardly been big enough to support vehicles before now. If you had one in 3 or NV, you'd get across the map one end to the other in fucking three minutes or some shit. Even 76, which has the biggest map so far, isn't really big enough to let you drive around in comfortably(assuming the roads were repaired enough to allow it. Most of them are pretty fucked in that game.)Walking made the most sense, both thematically and practically.
>>719387601>vehiclesthere's a quick way to make your open world game feel small and bethesda maps aren't particularly big to begin with either
>>719407919>>719410298The kino department just called I think they want to make a deal with you.
>>719426001tv show isn't canon because it's hot liquid shit
>>719389092and sick carscan't forget that bitgonna be awesome
AIIEEE TODD AVERT YOUR EYES AT THE STATE OF HOW THE WORLD EXISTS OVER A CENTURY IN LORE
>>719387601their last games suck at being sandbox and at being rpgs, i have 0 hopes for elder scroll 6 and fallout 5
>>719389092>We are getting cannibalism and serfdom.But enough about IRL amirite
>>719390348Incredible how starfield ended their company they still haven’t realized it yet
I'm getting pretty exhausted from the normalfag non argument of >just sit back and take it>who cares about what was before they changed it >you have to get on board with what todd saysFeels like it only got exacerbated by the tubelord bottom of the barrel reactor segment as well.
>>719390348this, starfield killed bethesda for me
>>719425704anon said cars can't work because of the engine, i said someone made a car mod meaning the engine can handle it. I don't see how that would warrant such a reaction
Who the fuck cares?By the time Fallout 5 comes outIt will be, what, 2035? Later?Will western civilization even exist at that point?
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>>719398392>we'll never see him againaren't they make a re-make of fallout 3 rn?
ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING BASE BUILDING SHIT
>>719435164what kind of character are you guys building in real fallout? faction? weapons? i dunno if i want to do shotgun and Stay Back or .22 and high luck. i'll probably skip the main story though
>>719434621>*retcons your bullshit with a single show*Kneel.
>>719435929BB gun build with Sniper, then transition into plasma rifle as always.
>>719435929I'm going to be a ghoul that moderately inconveniences someone while they loot my apartment
>>719435929Plot out your level ups beforehand, but abusing the Implant GRX perk with Logan's Loophole is something everyone should try at least once in New Vegas. Nothing like going full "nothin' personnel, kiddo" on deathclaws with a katana in hand. They're dead and in pieces before they hit the ground if you did it right.
>>719435929everyone shits on the toilet armor (no pun intended) but honestly with the right helmet and color it doesn't look too bad
>>719410604bethesda be like
>>719436232if we crack your safe just to find another pipe pistol and glue stick in there, we're going to shoot your arms and legs off and leave you alive
The claims about boat building tes6 and now vehicle building fo5 makes total sense as it lets them recycle their shipbuilder, reusing features is definitely their MOBut to be leaking it out this early seems.. desperate? Is this supposed to be early hype guaging? Or are they looking for validation on their ideas?
This is going to be a soulless TV show tie in with no nuanced factions where the solution to every problem is combat instead of potential dialogue options.It'll have a huge explorable world and it'll be a success only because autists will play it for hours trying to find every last bottle of glue or roll of duct tape in a rusty warehouse instead of anything related to the Fallout franchise.
What is the real world lore reason for Todd mistakenly thinking the BoS is anything other than a fancier cult of raiders with access to higher caliber weaponry and future tech?
>>719436624You know what's weird? When you loot a house in fallout and all you find is a gun, a few tech scraps and some processed food you get annoyed. But realistically that's 99% of places
