>>719387763
Haven't played the number of JRPGs i want yet, but maybe DQ5? idk its my favorite JRPG and the story is pretty unique

>>719387763
There are no good JRPG stories outside of DQ5

read manga or a book
vidya stories suck most of the time
FFX was nice
E33 had a kino start but i only played the first chapter so far so idk

>>719387896
>>719388125

What would you say makes DQ5 so great if you had to sum it up? I hear this quite often and I'm very curious.
Never played a DQ game but this one is always on my radar due to artstyle and what people say about the story. Also I heard it has something kind of like recruiting demons in SMT which is a big bonus cause I love that series.

>>719387763
Hybrid Heaven, fool
Ya fool

>>719388169
Thing is I already do. I have a friend kind of with this mentality and issue is its not the same. There is a specific appeal I get from experiencing something in a video game and being along for that journey more directly.

Also it is a bit backwards thinking imo because what about all the mangaka who got inspired by games?

>>719388169
final fantasy X is quite literally one of the worst stories and casts in FF way to out yourself as a normalfag

My throat hurts when I swallow

>>719388236
well, i loved dragon quest for many reasons. First of all the story where you essentially grow up, do choices, and really feels personal to me. You have to do many choices that affect your life, i won't say what it is. The growing up made me really feel the story much more, and the way you i nstory fail, grief, and eventually fight to win... it just feels great. It feels like life.

Also the monster recruiting is really amazing. I played it as one of my first JRPGs and i always felt like combat was one of the thing that held them back (i hated FF games for the combat) but in DQV it felt really good and balanced. I didn't mind at all getting into fights with monsters, after all DQV is wher pokemon took inspiration for their whole thing

>>719388280
>There is a specific appeal I get from experiencing something in a video game and being along for that journey more directly.
i get this, i like it too. but it's just a fact that on average vidya stories are much worse than mango or novels
>>719388365
cope

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>>719388169
/v/ why did you forget me? I thought I was ludokino, that I would still stand the test of time?

I was supposed to be the best thing ever. Why are there no threads about me, but about older JRPGs? How could you do this to me?

>>719387763
Grandia

>>719388473
>but it's just a fact that on average vidya stories are much worse than mango or novels

This is true on average, but that's why I'm asking what are some JRPG stories that people would single out as being really good and above average that are worth it to experience, since a lot of them have given me pretty amazing experiences over the years.

Also I for DQV, should I go the OG SNES, PS2 or DS? I'm considering starting it soon now that you reminded me

FFXI & FFXVI

>>719388718
>a clunky PS2 MMO and a soulless DMC clone
just stick to FFX anon

>>719388523
You're joking right how could you possibly come to the conclusion that mfing grandia is one of the best stories ever made in gaming

>>719388747
>a shitty soulless game with the same flaws that FF XIII had
just stick to FFIX anon

>>719388747
meant to say FFXIV
FFX is cringeworthy

Ban the mention of Final Fantasy games in these threads, they are all summer blockbuster dogshit that was always aimed at the normie masses.

>>719388796
based

Final Fantasy

>>719387763
Black Souls 2

Final Fantasy

>>719388796
XIV would be a decent story if you cut out the filler, it's worse than something like the Naruto anime in that regard
definitely stick to FFX

>>719388883
nah FFX is overrated as fuck

wakka is the only good character in ffx

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>>719388916
based

>>719388942
>Graha on 7
definitely not a list made by middle aged women

>>719387763
see >>719387806 and it's trilogy. Xenogears was pretty peak too but not as much as Saga's trilogy imo.

>>719387763
Xenosaga < Xenogear and its not even close. You can disagree but you are wrong and running on nostalgia. I could write an academic article as to why Saga is superior and you could not refute it.

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>>719389057
Anon you should proofread your posts from time to time.

>>719387896
>>719388125
DS, PS2 or SNES?

>>719388942
>wakka
what

>>719389234
this time for africa

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>>719387763
See pic. Its very comprehensive despite in reality all the shit that goes down.

>>719389287
Not a JRPG though.

>>719389287
Automata is terrible.
Fuck off, you retarded coomer.

>>719389213
i played the DS version on my phone. It was good.

>>719387763
>Want to experience something really unique
welp Earthbound it is

>>719388169
I mean a lot of video games have forgettable stories but I think its their world/characters that is what people remember and is kind of what people mean

>>719389234
Its probably due to the Oto Wakka meme
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oto_Wakka

Its a meme where Wakka has sex with Tidus and sings "Tidus's dick feels so good"

This video at 1:57
https://youtu.be/7cgc0Jl46xY?si=8lA8j4gLSAyFqnHB

>>719389329
You dont even know what JRPG means do you.

>>719389362
Even if thats your belief its still the best. Especially since it doesmt sound like you have a counter game.

13 Niggas

>>719388858
As in the first one?

>>719389883
Does 13 Niggas beat 4 baguettes in a row?

>>719387763
The only rpg I would say I actually got invested into the story beyond just enjoying it was Suikoden 2. That might have been because it was the first direct sequel with callbacks and recurring characters I had played at that point.

>>719388125
played the entire game waiting for the epic story to happen and it never did. just another generic fucking slog like everything else in the series. wowwwww you have a wife this time and your KID is le generic hero of destiny instead of you, wow so interesting. dq5 tards are truly something else.

>>719387763
Dragon Quest 4-6 remakes for the DS. Septerra Core, although it's technically a cRPG but it feels like a 90s jRPG

>>719388942
>No pre-7 characters
>Two FFX characters
Why is Japan so weird?

>>719390013
Its a close one, but not for me personally
I can easily see it happening for someone else though

>>719390028
You have to be unironically soulless not to like Dragon Quest 4 and 5

FFVII, VIII and X have good stories. everything else is a fucking generic shonen manga slop, and OP is the epitome of midwit pretentious garbage.

>inb4 le ff is bad because its popular but I wont offer up any other games that have better stories

>>719389674
>You dont even know what JRPG means do you.
4 niggas in a row. There are of course variations, like 5 niggas in a formation, 6 niggas in 2 rows, I've even seen a 1 nigga game.

>>719387763
Video games in general only have a good enough stories to keep you playing but none have actually good stories. Some games like Last of Us are praised for their storytelling not even really for the story itself since it's nothing special. It straight up plagiarizes The Walking Dead tv show but somehow manages to make it even more woke.

But Jrpg wise FF, staring to FF4, have the best stories in the genre. I've played hundreds of Jrpg's and FF is just the best there is. Contrarians try to be contrarian and will post all sort of games but truth is when it comes to story and characters in Jrpg's nothing is better than FF. All other Jrpg's always have big flaws, often due to budget constraints, but FF are always the full package with consistent quality. Not to mention all the games are always accompanied by some of the best soundtracks in gaming, which only help to enhance the delivery.

>>719388280
Taking inspiration from something doesn't mean anything and the quality doesn't even matter either. Inspiration is just an idea.

But think about video games and what people want from them. Is not stories. Nobody and I mean 100% because a video game is interactivity.

People want guns, sword fighting, customization, fun... This already is a pretty hefty list of impositions on the kind of stories that can be told and how can it be told. Games require a degree of expertise and creativity that goes way beyond making a movie or writing a book to make it engaging because you can't just do whatever you want because of the portion that is supposed to be a game.

>>719390129
Ive played the entire series because jrpgs are my favorite genre and therefore i SHOULD like DQ and clearly I just need to give every game in the series a chance and VIII is the only one I actually had fun with. I wish I could like them, I really do. god damn VIII is great though but even that one has a shit story, it just has a charming execution and characters (unlike the rest of the series)

>>719390282
I agree with you about FF, its the golden standard for story especially 6-10. but there are SOME games that replicate the same quality (mostly ones also made by squaresoft). chrono trigger and vagrant story come to mind.

>>719387763
Astlibra

>>719390158
7 and 8 dont have good stories dude. What the fuck is your idea of a good story even outside of those? The twists and characters in both games dont hit as hard as like lets say, as a common example, fighting Red at the ejd of Gold/Silver.

breath of fire 2
(bad ending)

>>719387763
FF13

>>719390449
>aeris getting slayed, cloud's nibelheim reveal in the lifestream, or the time loop ending of ffviii doesnt compare to.... fighting a silent self insert protagonist from the previous childrens game

you are either completely fucking brain damaged, have never actually played a jrpg besides pokemon, or both. Im going with both.

>>719387763
Chrono trigger is cool, it's a fun concept and has epic moments but doesn't take itself too seriously. Got me cheering a robot for getting his ass kicked by a gang
Suikoden 2 is pretty good too, luca blight is cartoonishly evil but carries the game on his back.
Most FF are good too

>he didnt cry at the end of FFX

actual fucking soulless NPC behavior. seriously just KYS at that point, it wont make any difference to anyone.

>>719390635
Why the fuck would anyone cry at FFX? It's not a sad ending at all, it's a happy ending. It literally ends with Tidus and Jecht doing a comically animated high five through space

Earthbound has the most unique and soulful narrative in any rpg, easily.

>>719390694
>why is the protagonist fucking dying and yuna never being able to see him again sad?!

>>719390746
autistic individuals do not experience empathy or understand basic social interactions, plz understand.

>>719390449
I can't imagine playing a jrpg for the "story" (as people see it). for me, the strength of the genre is pokemon. There's a cool world to explore, different cities that are memorable (lore basically), you play the role of a trainer that exists in this world and interact with it. It doesn't have story, as in, characters say a lot of boring scrollable text.

Lufia/Lufia 2 are good and are on the less renowned side of the spectrum , great ost.
2 is a prequel but t's better technically

Best story in the history of JRPG is FFT and it's not even remotely close.

>>719387763
>Want to experience something really unique

Koudelka
Digital Devil Saga
deSpiria
Laplus no Ma
Sweet Home

>>719390746
But he already returns in the post credit scene

Terranigma is pretty cool and doesn't have the dreaded spreadsheet/4 niggas in a row gameplay, not that it bothers me but it's kind of fresh and sets it apart

>>719390746
>protagonist fucking dying

He's not fucking dying.

>>719390601
CT is best looked at through a lens of the planet itself fighting back against Lavos, using her inhabitants like chess pieces and moving them through the time gates. Luca Blight is basically the King K. Rool of Suikoden.

>>719390967
>>719391042
X-2 is not canon and never will be. he died.

>>719388236
Dragon Quest 5's story is multi-generational. This in itself is quite unique
you'll start as a young child traveling with your father and eventually grow up, get married and have kids of your own all in your quest to ultimately defeat the demon king and his cult

>>719390914
What about Tactics Ogre though?

>>719391042
FFX is quite possibly the tranniest game in the franchise. It has two, TWO, playable characters who demand you refer them with the pronouns Is/Am instead of Was/Were.

>>719390915
I'll check out the others but I really fucking love Digital Devil Saga. Serph fan-art has been my pfp for so long lol, its tied with Nocturne for me.

I used to like SMT IV the most but idk why something changed and now DDS duology as well as Nocturne are my favorites

>>719391089
The post credits scene is in X itself anon. He swims back to the surface regardless of X-2’s existence.

>>719391376
post credits sequel bait is not canon and does not invalidate the entire story told before the credits rolled.

>>719391057
Yeah that's what I liked about CT the gameplay doesn't shine that much but the idea of this entity gathering warriors from different settings to beat an impossible enemy across time sold me
luca blight is cartoonish and evil for the sake of it but I liked that, you're just playing the thing and it even has a disney dumb vibe, and then comes this motherfucker and starts killing pow, women and children, and everytime he's on screen you know he's going to do something nasty. Can't remember a thing from suikoden 1 in contrast

>>719391478
>that bit is not canon because I happen to not like it!
Ok

>>719391256
Best game ATLUS have ever made.
Nocturne is good too though.

>>719391703
For me bros it was when you're in the final dungeon of DDS1 and as you ascend the floors the music becomes more and more complex and then you reach this part:
https://youtu.be/ElA8WnIl4d8?si=c_qDKDhiuUWYE_n2&t=329
(5:29)

It managed to do what Tartarus struggled for a whole game for me it was just so fucking badass I love that dungeon and segment so much. I know it filtered a lot of non dungeon crawler fags but it really isn't that bad.
Also the teleporting has a clear logic to it if you see the patterns I only messed up like once or twice cause I was a little tired and didn't pay attention but if you focus its pretty easy.

>>719392054
For me it was doing the run of all the optional bosses in DDS1 and trying to power your way through all the nonsense they throw at you. Yamato LMAO8MADRUSH no Orochi was a memorable one. Honestly one of my favourite ATLUS bosses just because of how silly he is conceptually.
DEKAJA DEKUNDA MAKAKAJA MAKAKAJA MAKAKAJA MEGIDOLOAN FOUL BREATH MEGIDOLOAN

>>719392345
I only did those on a second playthrough cause I played fully blind and honestly when Gale said "we may have unfinished business" I kind of knew it meant there was some other stuff but I was a little too invested at the time to fuck around.

Anyways yeah they're great lol

>>719392396
Also to further add one of my only gripes with DDS is that I still get this with 1 its just the mantra system is less satisfying than fusion and unless you optimize it with people getting a good spread such as mutual karma and the likes it can leave you questioning a lot, especially on a 1st playthrough. Which I kind of liked too that feeling of not knowing whether my choices were right.

But yeah I'd say I much prefer how DDS2 did the grid and I'd love if they re-release them (just please not a soulless slopmaster) they backport the mantra grid of 2 to 1 BUT with a careful rebalance to not make it too easy.

>>719387763
>pic unrelated
unfunny, XG has the best JRPG story by far

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>>719392559
Ok true I was dicking around with that a little, I would say Xenogears is around the peak of JRPG stories for me. But /v/iggers are only posting about the god damn MGS3 remake or gacha slop these days and want someone to actually reply.

If I had to say what my favorite stories in JRPGs are, I'd say:
-Digital Devil Saga
-Xenogears
-Final Fantasy VI & VII
-Persona 4
-Tactics Ogre & FF Tactics
-Tales of the Abyss
-Xenosaga

>>719390282
>Video games in general only have a good enough stories to keep you playing but none have actually good stories.
That's not true and this mentality is the reason games don't get the respect they deserve. XG or Torment have nothing less than a book (i don't mean the script, but the overall depth), let alone a movie where the standard is much lower

>>719392717
I think FFVI aged really well considering the SNES limitations, it's such a good game

>>719389638
Great Wikipedia article with exceptionally good English.

>>719393607
Something about VI and VII really just hits the sweet spot for me. They really feel like games that any generation of player can play and I've thought about this for a while and I really think its the cast.

I feel like you relate to a lot of the party members as you age but to a different one based on your age and current things going on in your life. Characters like Cid in FF VII are a really good example of this.

>>719387763
Bump

>>719387763
Xenogears is the only time a JRPG with dogshit gameplay had a story that made suffering it worthwhile.

>>719395751
I honestly don't think the gameplay is that bad desu

>>719395751
I think it's very basic, but not necessarly garbage

>>719396416
If you want some real shit, Xenosaga Episode I.
I don't get why people shit on Episode II, I was wayy more engaged with the gameplay in that one, it was actually very fun.

>>719396416
Are there mods to make Xenogears harder? Like a romhack

>>719396867
As far as i know there's only the Perfect Works mod, but that's not necessarly harder. It would be cool to have an hardmode or a randomizer tho, to increase replay value

>>719392717
Is Abyss really that good? My favorites are pretty similar, but I never truly even liked a tales game (tried zestiria, berseria, arise, vesperia)

The xeno franchise and takahashi and his wife are the only good things Nintendo has going for it currently. They are the golden goose that Nintendo keeps squandering.

>>719387763
Darkest of Knights II. FFIX comes close though

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>>719387763
>pic not related

It's actually pic related. And most jRPG have shitty story with horrible writing and anime dialogues.

>>719399478
I was the same, never liked a single Tales game. And to this day Abyss is the only one I like.

Basically if you enjoy some of the concepts in FF7, very likely you'll like Abyss. Won't specify which cause of obvious spoilers but you get the idea.

Also take a listen to the opening, really beautiful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFCskRNZ-E&list=RDdGFCskRNZ-E&start_radio=1

With all the Xenoverse discussion here, I wanted to ask something.

While I love both Xenogears and Xenosaga, for some reason the Xenoblade games look too shounen to me and I just prefer the more kind of seinen look the others have. I was wondering someone who has played both Blade and those others, are my worries legit or am I just dismissing it cause of artstyle?
The 2nd one is the worst offender to me I hate how it looks.

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>>719387763
13 Sentinels was a wild ride.

>inb4 not a jRPG
vndb fags say it's not a VN either.

>>719401709
we love all anime and manga here champ.

>>719387896
I am surprised and delighted to see this was the first reply.
>>719389213
I played the fan translation PS2 version and loved it (due in no small part to the orchestra soundtrack), but the DS version has party chat if I'm not mistaken. The SNES original has neither of the aforementioned features but is obviously good enough to have warranted a couple of excellent remakes.

>>719387763
>pic not related
Stopped reading there.

>>719402572
Shonen and Seinen are not fucking artstyles you inbred retard, fucking K-On was published on a Seinen magazine

>>719402884
well that is the end of his post

>>719402884
that was bait to keep the thread alive, i can't blame OP considering the state of /v/

>>719387763
All the MGS games

>>719403016
I know, I meant more so they have a seinen feel to them. Like bro come on look at Xenoblade Chronicles 2, it just looks so fucking naive and like its aimed at a shounen demographic compared to something like Xenosaga which looks like fucking Evangelion

>>719402572
>>719403016
Yeah, Shonen isn't an art style but a target demographic (teenage boys from 12 to 18), while Seinen refers to adult males (from 18 to 40). So, Blade may seem less "adult" than Gears/Saga at first. I personally haven't played the Blade games yet, but i heard that despite the appearance, Blade 2 and 3 especially remind a lot of Gears. (Xenoblade 1 was originally called Monado and wasn't meant to be a part of the Xeno series, then Iwata proposed the name Xenoblade, but this was in late development.)

>>719402813
>blud unironically said champ

yeah we know your age and how invalid your opinions are now

>>719403705
There are plenty of bleak moments and characters and side stories in the xenoblade entries. Maybe not the extent as xrnogears or saga, but it still exists. Also true, that xenoblade was meant to be its own IP originally and XB 2 is meant to be a true spiritual reworking of gears

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>>719404110
Okay bud.

>>719404045
>star ocean 3 but measurably worse in every aspect

>>719389638
>Tidus's dick feels so good

It's like I'm really in elementary school.

>>719399478
No. It's story is better than those other tales games you listed but if you didn't like those ones I don't see you liking Abyss either. It's still a Tales game with all that entails.

>>719402572
ignoring the pedantry of those other posters, Xenoblade is more of a shounen story than gears or sage. It's good but you're not going to be encountering anything as deep or psychological as Gears or Saga.

see here >>719147414

>>719387763
Why are there daily threads for a game that's almost 30 years old?

>>719404984
It was a pretty popular and influential game that has a bunch of sequels.

>>719387763
depends what you mean by "story" do you mean the actual fucking story or do you mean bland dry front-facing tell-don't-show word cities of exposition that makes everything as plain as day for the player without any hint of subtext or subtlety or allowing the player to discern things on their own?
basically are you a fag or not? the answer hinges entirely on that because i bet that you're the kind of retarded mouthbreathing faggot who, when confronted with the game with best actual story, you'll go "it's shit" becauae the story isn't told to you like you're a child, fuck off

>>719404984
Series and entries with value get discussed. It’s only the fault of modern deceptive and devs exclusively that they don’t measure up
>muh suits
Nope

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>>719404984
Because there's nothing quite like it even all those years later

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Sex with Millesaurs

>>719401438
>went into it expecting a comfy colorful adventure
>got genocide, nuclear weapons and radiation liquidators, body horror, human experiments, politicians backstabbing their own allies, cute girls being tortured and antagonist being right about everything

How much time do the “free” daily online rewards and events save in X?

>>719404396
Wait what?

>>719405579
Schizo babble, don't worry about it

>>719405490
It's some tickets, right? It can help afford new Skells easier

>>719387763
>pic rel
>Xenogears
Are they at least Xenophobic?

>>719405137
No actual story. I used to praise rollsloppa more but nowadays I only like Dark Souls 1 and Sekiro.

I would say Nocturne did a cryptic story way better than ANY FromSoft game

Elly needs to fuck my face

>>719405579
Ignore >>719405654
it’s just a cheap ripoff of the main plot points of SO3 but notmalfags think it’s “deep” because it’s “dark and mature” but the actual writing is much worse

>>719405792
Please me too

>>719405804
>it’s just a cheap ripoff of the main plot points of SO3
SO3: the game world is a retarded amusement MMO that robs the entire world of its own agency, nothing that has ever happened in the setting was real until the pitiful ending that magically asspulled it into its own thing.
E33: the painting was created by beings from higher dimensions, but it still retained its own history and agency even in the face of annihilation. The story doesn't try to sugarcoat it for literal toddlers, when the source of the painting is gone, the life ends too.

You're the only person on this planet who likes the clown fiesta of SO3.

>>719405804
This is the first time I have heard this and now I'm actually interested. I never finished SO3, would you need to say spoilers to elaborate?

>>719388236
DQ5's story is only good by DQ standards. This board hyped it up so much but it's still "hero grows up and takes on the demonlord to save the world" like basically every other DQ game. It's very average but I still enjoyed the game because I found recruiting monsters fun.

>>719406054
>you’re the only person
Wrong clown child shoo shush now

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>>719404396

no just no
Star Ocean 3 had a good plot twist on paper but the execution was generic anime trash.
E33 and SO3 spoilers ahead:

** the 4d beings and their world were generic anime nonsense, no atmosphere, nothing that actually made them stand out. The moment you set foot in the non painted world in E33 it feels so real and nostalgic, like you've woken up from a dream.**

Clair Obscur is a masterpiece in comparison and don't even get me started on the character dialogue, interaction, how beautifully their emotions are presented in the game.

I enjoyed SO3, I did, even tho it was dumb anime nonsense

here's a video that explains what makes E33 so much better and so much more human I made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i94shoD2CVw

>>719388169
>vidya stories suck
Ffx e33
>pls

Which manga story is 1 OK, maybe 2

>>719406172
Struck a nerve, eh

>>719406176
>good plot twist on paper but the execution was generic anime trash.
>>719406184
This

>>719405235
Xenoblade 2 is quite like it.

>>719387763
Yep. But the bar isn't particularly high so Xenogears win by default.

>>719387763
Sen no Kiseki

>>719406176
>how beautifully their emotions are presented in the game

How the emotions are presented:
https://youtu.be/VCYetaKe9L4?si=HMyk9WgwTrA1V9Pc&t=125

>>719406176
>dumb anime nonsense
So leagues ahead of e33 and most western game stories. Not hard compared to god of war or those Batman and Spider-Man games. Or mass effect and on and on

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I can fix her

>>719406184

I don't read manga, I prefer watching anime, but there are plenty of incredible and genuinely mature amazing manga stories.

20th Century Boys is hands down one of the best stories ever told in media bar none.

and i stand by my previous opinion that SO3 was anime trash, just because i call something anime trash doesn't mean i dislike anime or manga

>>719406497
i'm on your side anon. there's a lot of normalfags here, the guy defending E33 and saying the star ocean shit has probably only played like 5 JRPGs tops. i'm even willing to bet he misunderstood the genius of SO3 and never continued playing JRPGs after and is now spouting this bullshit the inferior E33 gave him.

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>>719406342
Fuck you. Someone tricked me with that, 90 hours later I get a 15 min scene barely connected to Xenosaga. Absolute waste of time.
90 hours of cringe, boring combat, and complete sexual frustration staring at those perfect tits that you can never touch. Awful. Voice acting was 11/10 though.

Ironic otaku are the worst thing that ever plagued this site. How embarrassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4hZebimyW4

This is one of the best stories in video games.

>>719406668
>dubbed
Of course you’re going to get a bad experience with worse voice talents

I think normalfags and antiweebs who instead of just enjoying E33, feel the need to explain why it's a serious and mature game compared to JRPGs, are just ruining its reputation. Plus, not understanding that the expressiveness of Japanese characters is a form of depth and maturity, just as valid as Western expressiveness, but ignorantly labeling it as "cringe anime for kids" is just stupid

>>719406747
Its better than Japanese in literally every way

>>719406883
100%

>>719406917
True, but also not even remotely correct

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>>719406342
I wish

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>>719387763
It has to be Nostalgia or my first RPGs when the tropes were fresh, but nothing compares to BoF3, FF7, FF tactics and Xenosaga.
Maybe Dragon Quartet, Nier Automata or FF 15? Taking God out of RPGs made them worse.

Why in the HECK, has Nintendo not pumped out switch 2 updates for any of the xeno titles
>inb4 just emulate
Outside of X they are still as broken as they ever were.

Elly needs to be milked

>>719406497
God of War and the like are unimaginaitive western garbage, E33's story and characters are on a whole different level. It's up there with the best of best video game stories for me like Mother 3, Suikoden II, XenoGears and so on.

I said dumb anime nonsense because just like western stories can be generic and have dull boring tropes so do many anime stories.

Planescape Torment

>inb4 not a JRPG
Think about it for a second and you'll get it.

>>719406516
I like the movie hard to be a god, but apparently most people hate it.

>>719406747
You could be right. It was the first game I ever went dubbed for. Like I said, that was the only strong point though.
I wouldnt go dubbed again till like a dragon, but I loved that game.

>>719407125
Final fantasy has suffered for the worse more than most of the long running franchises. Xvi was fine as a basic and somewhat generic action game. But a blatant regression of their franchise as a whole

>>719407125
>FF 15?
FIFTEEN? Are you out of your god damned mind?

>>719407289
i actually unironically get your logic. its the same logic i use to prove the witcher games are literally JRPGs but people are too dumb to get it

>>719387763
first valkyrie profile is still unsurpassed.

>>719407289
>>719407454

You are such a fucking retard that you had to samefag. Literally nobody would ever agree to a claim this retarded. Please I am begging you kill yourself and give someone else a piece of that oxygen and ozone layer.

>>719407289
Planescape was inspired by FF7 and 8 and features Asuka/Rei and Aerith/Tifa tier waifu wars

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Stop fighting please and post cute images

>>719407578
Wait what? I know they rewrote a bunch of Baldur's Gate but is this actually legit or are you being brown rn

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>>719406617
oh fuck right off I've played more RPGs than most of you zoomers on here.

My favorite RPGs:
- Mother 3
- Suikoden II and V
- XenoSaga series
- XenoGears
- Chrono Trigger and Cross - I actually love Cross just as mcuh as CT
- Lunar SSC and Eternal Blue
- Final Fantasy VI, VII, IX - tho I loved XII a ton as well while everyone esle was hating on it
- Shadow Hearts 1 and 2 - couldn't do 3 the mandatory TIMED math problems killed the game for me I'm dumb
- Seikden Densetsu 3 - played it when it got translated in like 99 or wheever

and other games that escape me atm

just because I regard Clair Obscur as one of the best RPGs ever doesn't mean I prefer western games or western storytelling

also the only western RPG I can think of that would deserve to be on this list is Planescape Torment

pic related just a few of my PS2 games

Best stories would be FF Tactics, Suikoden 2, Tales of the Abyss, FF6, Xenogears.

Only Abyss has the anime tropes, but it's still good shit.

>>719407386
What's wrong with it

>>719406516
Urasawa is overrated as fuck lol

>>719406617

Also I happily finished SO3, sure the execution of the plot twist was poor, but overall I enjoyed the game. I went on to love the Xbox360/PS3 SO as well many hated and even the PS4 one. The PS5 one that came out a year or two back I didn't finish because I was just fed up with the medieval nonsense

>>719407645
I ORDER YOU TO GIVE ME ALL OF THOSE VIDYA NOW! YOU DO NOT WANT TO FEEL THE MIGHT OF MY CHIN, IT IS SHARPER THAN ANY BLADE EVEN THE BEST OF BLACKSMITHS COULD CREATE!

>>719407690

I haven't played FFT just TA but yes those are all excellent JRPG stories

>>719407386
>>719407350
Kek. Im separating story from gameplay, and more importantly themes and dialogue. BG3 had great dialogue, meh story. FF16 had great themes, Goodish story.
FF15 I liked the story. A man who healed and helped others so much he was punished by the gods and now must take on the worlds strongest empire to commit suicide. And thats just the antagonist.

>>719387896
It's my favorite too. Watching the entirety of the protagonist's life unfold over the course of the game is something few other games have tried and even fewer have done well.

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>>719407645
As a FF2 fan are the romancing sagas worth trying?
Also E33 was awesome. Ignore the contrarians.

Final Fantasy VIII duhhh

>>719407845
FF15 has an awesome world, genuinely atmospheric locations, wonderful vibes and a good IDEA for a story but the story execution is awful. The banter between the characters is top notch but it ends there, there's no real connection between the main character and that pricess I can't even remember anymore, there's no real actual connection between anyone.
It all feels rushed and surface level at best, very stingy, very minimalist and detatched storytelling that ruined an otherwise great game.
I still enjoyed it and spent 120 or 150 hours, even did post game stuff but it could have been better.

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This is literally me irl

>>719407976
still in my backlog, so I wouldn't know
I tried one once and it was vague, open, confusing and yeah, if you're looking for a story that's definitely not a series to play IMO
it's some sort of semi open world/do random stuff and piece the plot together kinda series

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>>719408194
You could describe Octopath like this and those games were awesome and had amazing stories.

>>719408151
So you're Ultimecia?

>>719407873
this how could I forget to list it, I always rave about how amazing it is
so add to my list

- Dragon Quest V
- Terranigma

I hate listing games I swear i always forget important games

>>719408090
I will never get over getting to the second hub, lake world or which was gorgeous and meant to contrast with being stuck in the nothing wasteland, and then only getting two hours in it before getting railroaded into the endgame. What a mess.

>>719408262

I played and finished Octopath 2 last summer and it was wonderful, but it's not as vague. The stories had clear direction, the world was very dense and carefully connected. Seriously Octopath 2 is one of the best JRPGs I've ever played, such amazing stories.

I have yet to play the first Octopath tho

>>719408331
When first reading this I thought "wow is this guy about to praise FF XV" but of course it ended like that. Nothing good has ever come out of that piece of shit, shoulda just made Versus XIII a reality

>>719408151
Please don't shoot your dog at enemies

Isn't squeenix retooling that mobile game for the next octo entry? Did anyone play it?

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>BTFOs all your favorite JRPGs while being a spinoff of a fighting game

K i n o

>>719408090
Yea, Im reading the book so maybe thats distorting things for me.
Like I said if you go just story, its hard to top BoF3, FF7, and Xenogears. Wonder why that is as I actually love modern games?

>>719408634
>Planescape Torment a JRPG
>Fucking Witcher a JRPG
>Motherfucking Overture a JRPG

Please kill this thread I'm begging you.

>>719408416
I liked it a lot more, found 2 too difficult. Im constantly told Im wrong on both counts though.

>>719408716
FF15 has a book? I don't read books so I wouldn't know, but if they wrote the damn game as good as that book it would have been wonderful, sadly it felt empty and unfinished storywise, the world again was great.

>>719390129
I like both games but the stories are very basic. Some dipshit yesterday tried telling me that DQV's story was more mature and better written than FF6's story and I thought he was nuts. I like DQ because of the basic stories and simple, charming characters. It's like the complete opposite of FF.

At this point I'd read whatever autistic ramblings Takahashi and his wife spat out even without a game. I'd read that manga. I'd watch that OVA/ONA

>>719408634
this game isn't a JRPG. its too good to be that pile of shit genre. neither an RTS. its something special and you are so fucking based for praising it, GG puts most JRPG stories to shame

>>719408828

For me, 2 was easy except that one opera boss, but that just needed the right strategy and the very final boss or was it an optional boss I can't remember anymore but it was hell even with my lvl99 team

>>719408890

DQV's story is amazing, you actually feel the weight of the passage of time, something no game has managed to capture before.
A good chunk of the story and character development is all in the party chat on the DS version, there's so much character development in that party chat I was beyond frustrated that they removed the party chat from the western DQ4 DS release

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>>719408905
The lore:

You'll find a lot of gems here:
https://nyaa.si/?q=Undub&f=0&c=0_0
Swosho on Internet archive has a lot of undubs, too.
Seek QoL mods and HD texture packs to enhance your experience.
SNES games have access to MSU-1 which replace the OST with a much cleaner version of it.

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>>719409095
I only played the version for the SNES and the story, while charming, didn't seem particularly deep to me. That's what I enjoy about the series, though. However, it was cool to get married and have a kid that grows up to be a hero.

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Why did he do it?

>>719409104
>>719409168

>Busts multiple nuts while Bridget fucks me from behind and I-No fucks my face
K-k-kinooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

>>719409218
>However, it was cool to get married and have a kid that grows up to be a hero.

of course faggots on /v/ love this concept, something you'll never get irl

>>719408870
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48565746-final-fantasy-xv

You are right, the story made no sence without this.

>>719409331
>of course faggots on /v/ love this concept, something you'll never get irl
You mean anons on any board? 2D>3DPD you sad tourist.

>>719409331
Are you implying that the average person outside of /v/ has kids that end up becoming a legendary hero? That doesn't happen outside of anime and vidya.

>>719409218
I too love DQ for the simple, fairytale like stories but you should definitely play the DS version and use the party chat all the time, there's new dialogue for pretty much every occasion, every NPC you meet, ever location you visit and so on, it's incredible.

Also DQXI IMO had a phenomenal and very dark story

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>>719387763
Utawarerumono 1- 3

>>719409439
I'll get around to playing it soon. Does that version introduce a bunch of annoying accents to the characters?

>>719395960
the dungeons get pretty awful

>>719409585
yes

>>719409901
I haven't gotten to it, or maybe I don't remember it, but anon said the psuedo platforming is pretty bad at some section

>>719409993
there's that plus the fact that you get mid air random encounters, but mainly the end game dungeons get extraordinarily monotonous

>>719409965
That's unfortunate. That's what bothered me about the DQ4 remake. I think it's because I played the original game on the NES as a kid and the characters sound different in my head than in the DS version. Ragnar's accent is so thick in it that I could barely understand him lol.

>>719409993
>psuedo platforming is pretty bad at some section
it can be frustrating but aside from 2 dungeons there isn't much platforming overall

>>719410134
DQ from the DS onward is all like that, so it's something to get used to. English isn't my native language and if I could get used to it, you'll be fine too.
It can be annoying to read, I fully understand but it's worth getting used to it.

>>719402572
yeah the blade games kinda suck, they had to dumb down the xeno-series to make it more marketable for tendies

>>719408331
for me it's when you arrive on the dinky little cliff to look at Tenebrae, an obvious city that was cut, for a second before fucking off

>>719409157
This post will go hatefully unnoticed.

>>719409480
>VN
Nigger shoo

>>719410728
the majority of anons are probably well aware of what's on nyaa. It's hardly uncommon knowledge.

>>719410825
Nobody mentioned undubs which is the superior way to play JRPGs

>>719387763
Earthbound by far. It's stylistically very fragmented and minimalist in some respects yet it has more substance and stronger themes behind it than any spiky-hair schlock

>>719408151
except shes not trans.

>>719409993
There’s a few pretty shitty dungeons to go through but the good outweighs the bad

>>719387763
Chrono Cross, imo

>>719410307
God damn it my fears are true.
At least that X game looks pretty fucking cool, not going in for the story just an open world sci-fi mecha setting tho

>>719406342
lol, lmao even

>>719412886
the side stories asnd characters are still bretty gud.

Any classic jrpgs with good use of Rain?
Think like Burmecia, ambiance with rain levels. I want rain.

>>719410307
>they had to dumb down the xeno-series to make it more marketable for tendies
It's not like Sony roaches appreciated the complexity and religious technobabble of the Saga games either, you fucking dingus

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>>719413595
That area was comfy as hell. Only other games to give me that feel are the original RE and SH save spots.

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>>719414083
True, but Xenoblade was such a step down that its practically unrelated in any way. They replaced Bible verses, Freud and Jung references, and gnostic philosophy with robot maids and big tits. At least Xenosaga referenced Neitzchie.

>>719411026
this
Anyone who plays English dubs is a nigger

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My girlfriend convinced me to get it. Did I make a mistake?

>>719414606
Yes, should've played the original release

>>719415336
Retard vengeance still offers the "original" story

>>719388169
>tells people to read a book
>pretends E33's story was ever good
That's peak pseud right there.

>>719410307
No retard, Takahashi simply learned from Nintendo to not let the themes supersede the story or gameplay, thus Xenoblade as a series is the one time Xeno hasn't been an unfinished mess that is miserable to play through.

>>719403705
>Xenoblade 1 was originally called Monado and wasn't meant to be a part of the Xeno series, then Iwata proposed the name Xenoblade, but this was in late development.
This is false, the name change was pretty early on and it heavily influenced large changes in the script, the original script for Monado Beginning of the World is almost completely different to Xenoblade's, and Takahashi has confirmed he was working on a trilogy from then as proven by how Alvis' connection to Shulk reflects 2's Blades.

>>719415692
Except he's right and you are seething about being uneducated.

>>719416325
>Except he's right
You're not.
>you are seething about being uneducated.
I'm more educated than you'll ever be.

>>719415515
Yeah with dumbed down level scaling you fucking idiot. The original is way more of a challenge.
This is why I fucking hate idiots uninterested in game mechanics.

>>719416356
>no u!

>>719416780
Correct. I have a PhD. You likely couldn't even finish community college.

>>719416857
Link us your research then doc

>>719416928
>doxx yourself because I'm mad that you're more educated than I am
No thanks, dumb dumb. Enjoy being dimwitted enough to think E33 had good writing and that "books" as some magical nebulous concept are better written than games in general.

>>719416227
Really? Had no idea, thanks for clarifying

>>719417030
Alright then doc, what did you write about? You can be vague

>>719416778
There are multiple difficulty options megatard

>>719417138
>You can be vague
Neuroscience. And I didn't "write about it" so much as I did primary research, since that's the important part of a PhD. Writing is just what you do when you need to publish.

>>719417143
You're a fucking idiot that doesn't negate the actual level scaling, those still persist.
And hard on OG is way harder.

>>719417030
Imagine larping on a Mongolian Basket weaving forum. Thats almost as pathetic as having a doctorate and not reading, kek!

>>719417241
At the end you still wrote about it but yeah what did you research would've been better. Not my first language and all we say it more like how I phrased it in mine.
Anyways I'm not even the anon you said that to lol, I was originally gonna make fun of your doctorate for being some useless shit but pretty based being neuroscience and all. You're still brown though

>>719417265
>What is Godborne

>>719417423
Not even hard I had less trouble on that than hard on vanilla

>>719417241
Thats it? I just got my 12th PhD. Im a cowboy Astronaut millionaire spy. Catch up loser.

>>719409480
I like underwaterrayromano too.

>>719417515
Nice LARP tendie

>>719417345
Imagine being an angry, illiterate monkey angry that your betters don't pretend a subpar game is well written.

>>719417420
>I was originally gonna make fun of your doctorate for being some useless shit
Nope, sorry. None of that fake social "sciences" research shit here.
>You're still brown though
0 for 2. I'm white with blue eyes.

>>719417558
Anyone who actually understands the equations of this game will get what I'm saying and why it mathematically makes sense that vanilla hard is harder than Godborne or anything in Vengance. Its always like this with Fatlus games, re-release is easier. Their balance is so bad that in P5R a boss on very hard is harder than normal.

Also I'm not a tendie I pirated it and played it on Yuzu back when it dropped, don't own a Switch. RIP Yuzu

>>719417580
>angry, illiterate monkey angry
LOL! Larping brown for sure.

>>719417701
Post hand

>>719417580
Fuck man you have everything. White with blue eyes too.

>>719417750
>doxx yourself because I'm mad that you're more white and educated than I am
You cant speak English, you dont read, you dont post a pic of your hand first. You are the ultimate larping lolcow.

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Damn didn't know I was tuning into Lolcow Live when I came into this thread.

LOL

LOL

LOLLLLLLLLL

LOL

LOL

>>719390129
I played 4 recently and it was really fucking boring basic bitch shit. The only remotely interesting thing about it is how the villain gets betrayed by another villain, but then in the post-game you just team up to fight that guy and your protag casually forgets how he massacred your whole village. Gameplay felt simplistic even compared to other games at the time like FF4.

>>719417892
>You cant speak English, you dont read, you dont post a pic of your hand first.
I know you're some flavor of ESLfag shitposting monkey, so I'll help you out with tense agreement. It should have been "you haven't posted a pic of your hand yet." in that sentence.
>lolcow
You're genuinely a subhuman.

>>719418046
>no u!

>>719417672
Retard

>>719418149
This is an English language imageboard. Go back to whatever shithole is filled with other monkeys like you.

>>719418046
So we gonna see the hand nigger boy? Or you too busy jerking off to guro with brain shit in it LARP-ing as a scientist that knows the anatomy of a human cause you coom at the screen to fantasies of that

>>719387763
I have what you want but you have to leave the pretense of gameplay at the door. Gameplay only hurts jrpg stories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij-n2lD_uVY

>>719418172
Ok then, prove me wrong.
I've literally extracted a ton of shit from the game when it was still Switch only and even looked at the equations and have done comparisons of both.

The scaling makes Vengance way easier.

>>719387763
Check out FF Tactics and Suikoden 2. Probably my favorite stories in the genre that I didn't play as a kid so I know there's no rose tinted nostalgia glasses involved.

>>719387763
Elly, Citan=High Elves
Fei=Snow Elf/Falmer
Bart=Imperial
Billy=Breton
Maria=Nord
Rico=Orc
Chu-Chu=Khajit
Emeralda=Redguard with werewolf and vampire lord forms

>>719418353
You just claiming a bunch of shit "because I said so" isn't proof. You're retarded.

>>719418191
You have litterally just repeated everyone's insults against you. An Anon who doesn't read playing parrot is pretty funny. Now please, larp some more. I bet you've never even had sex.

>>719418437
So you were too stupid to notice the balance changes and realize they made Vengeance easier? Lmfao, imagine putting in more than 100 hours between the releases and NOT noticing that holy shit what a fucking retarded faggot

>>719418247
I asked first. Post hand.

>>719418479
>You have litterally just repeated everyone's insults against you
I pointed out that you're an ESLfag because you can't actually write in English.
>An Anon who doesn't read
When did I say that? Could you show me where? I think your lack of English literacy is causing you problems again.

>>719418540
>Words
>Words
>Words
So many words but no substance to be found. Fitting for a retard like you.

>>719418562
Bro..

>>719418628
This is why women won't have sex with you Anon.

>>719418762
Too be fair, no anon wants anything outside of 2D regardless. That's never really been an insult on any board.

>>719418762
>more projection
Okay, dumb browny.

>>719406184
>e33 "story"
>good
what is with this french trash being shilled here?

>>719395960
It's really really bad

>>719406617
anyone who thinks fagspedition 33(masonic for two gay men engaging in anal sex) is good has never played a single rpg in their lives

>>719406883
it doesn't have a reputation to ruin with actual rpg players in the first place

>>719419190
Yeah I dropped it in the sewers. It was really bad.

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>>719419024
>no u!
For the third time... kek!
You cant top that level of retardation. Ill let you get the last word as a ESL Larper like you desperately needs it. Thanks for the laughs.

>>719419182
Cuz gam gud

>>719419273
How did I miss the gay sex scene!

>>719387763
Vagrant Story is a great candidate.

>>719419525
Yeah if you like rollslop style storytelling

>>719419513
I rolled sex with femoids everytime
I feel scammed when /v/ told me it had gay sex
Where's the gay sex?

>>719387763
>Ctrl+F Rogue Galaxy
>0 results
Rogue Galaxy

>>719419890
lpbp
/thread

>>719419820
This

>>719419890
Stop shilling this piece of shit I actually fell for the meme once

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>>719418432
Em is a wood elf

>>719420709
I fell for it again and I'm glad I did
Best meme I ever fell for period

>>719387763
>kills god
>the end
the one that doesn't do this

>>719421308
So Xenogears.

>>719390449
lmao
Pokefurries are legitimately braindead

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>>719387763
JRPGS are good at art and music, maybe an interesting setting.

I don't think I've ever been impressed with plot/story though I haven't played anything recent.

>>719390894
Just because Pokemon stories are trash (outside BW and maybe SM), that doesn't mean other JRPG stories are shit as well.

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>>719421997
Anon OP said the best, not the worst.

>>719421308
What you want is Xenoblade 2 then.

>>719390894
This but for the last 15 years of western releases where the devs use their characters as mouth prices to whine about non issues. Oh man! Peter Parker is whining about being poor when he decided to work as a high school teacher? I definitely won’t skip all of the game’s cutscenes or flat out mute the dialogue

>>719421997
The actual pic not related lmao

Bump

>>719419890
all I remember is main guy goes super saiyan and I have to use all the characters I didn't level up in the final boss fight