When did TF2 start its decline into its shell of its former glory?
>>7193881192016, I like how the game community servers peaked after F2P update
sniper vs spy update was the moment it felt like something was wrong, mannconomy was "oh it's fucking over" and meet your match was where it truly started imploding
>>719388119Who fucking cares
>>719388119MyMMaybe subjectively before that (gun mettle for me, fuck skins) but the objective downfall of the game came with MyM and there is no other correct answer.
personallyend of the line update
>>719388292Posts like yours are the most subhuman retarded nigger posts on this website, equal to all the falseflagging faggots. If you don't care fuck off and post in anohter thread you care about instead of bumping one you apparently don't care about.
>>7193881192014-2015 where pretty good, so 2016 i guess
>>719388208tf2 was at its peak post f2p update thoughhow do you explain that
>>719388119I feel like TF2 was culturally at its peak after Meet the Medic and Pyro dropped. Things look poised to take off even further when it seemed like we were gonna get a TF2 series on Adult Swim but that all just fizzled out and then the comic got delayed indefinitely.I know thats all supplementary media but it was kinda indicative of Valve just not giving a shit about the game/IP itself anymore.
>>719388119>wait, if this game is dead, how are we still alive?>all three explode simultaneously
>>719388403THEN POST YOUR FAVORITE GAME, YOU FUCKING NON GAMING FAGGOTPLAY SOME FUCKING GAMES!!!
>>719388454f2p is superior for longevityhats are for gay retardsweapon unlocks are silly
>>719388119Mannconomy update in 2010 opening the doors to Valve adding in trash cosmetics ruining its artstyle.
>>719388208tf2c solely exists to be an alternate roughly 2008-ish version of TF2 and what that says to me is that a significantly amount of people genuinely disliked the weapon bloat and style decay that came about from the mannconomy onwards
>>719388534PROVE YOUR GAMING WEIGHT!!!!PROVE YOUR GAMING CALIBUR!!!!
>>719388512The characters are more popular than the game, and so they outlived it.
>>719388604HURRY THE FUCK UP
>>719388119The last really big, really high quality update they added to the game was the PvE robot game mode. After that, you could viscerally feel that Valve was less and less interested/passionate with each update.
Tough Break since that's when they started raping weapons for no reason and Gun Mettle since that's when they went full retard with it.
>>719388686DON'T YOU DARE DEFLECT
>>719388886YOU'RE IN /V/, BITCHPICKYOUR GAME
>>719389047https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QvSEgEV-E&pp
Well?
>>719389363I won't judgeJust lemme know what kinda games you lkke
>>719389440Fool
>>719389478Lemme know what kind of gamer you really are
>>719389526We can all exist together, you and me
>>719388119The stupid matchmaking.Ruined all servers by having games last shorter, start with server half full, and add a load of clutter just wasting all the FUCKING time.Ratio of waiting to gaming became unbearable at that point.
>>719388119Objectively 2016 or Meet Your Match
Before MYM:>hop on server that is at capacity>play round>round ends, swap sides>play some more>continue for half an hour or more, until players have had enough to make a map voteAfter MYM:>game start with stupid animation "le epin competitive game!">server has 9 players in it, first round sucks major balls>swap side>server more populated, is actually the okay part.>end of game after 2 rounds because "le epin competitive gaem!">more stupid animations>change map>start new game with 9 players in it, over again.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TXvegzWNIps&pp
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gd3Y4o95ObU&pp
>>719388208>sniper vs spy yup, its this. razorback is the first obviously bullshit unlock (just a lazy way to protect sniper from his hard counter instead of actually changing your playstyle). jarate is the start of the wacky gags interrupting the actual gameplay instead of just the patch notes and team videos, introduced the rng item drops that would go on to codify the modern lootbox as valve expanded this system
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c61RFPXGDmA&pp
>>719390310We liveWe exist
>>719390349Don't you dare call yourselves GamersYou never were
>>719390443You AllQuit
>>719388574Except 80% of TF2C players are in it for the custom weapons servers
>>719389918actually it's >game ends>map vote>everyone votes for the same map we're already on
>>719390467Fucking quitters
>>719390239Razorback is a non-issue.
>>719390501Gamers don't quitWe find some kind of way
>>719388119nothing can remain good forevereven when the game was at its peak and never received another update after that people would still complain that it got stale and you cannot always shit out banger updates
>>719390656There's always a way
>>719390483And yet players are still reshuffled and game starts with half missing...
>>719388119It was never good
>>719390675>nothing can remain good foreverA statement both disprovable and unprovable.
Skins update
>>719388119when Jerma started streaming it
>>719388119they could've stopped touching the game right before mannconomy and it would've been a completely superior specimen.>Try to milk game the valve nigger way instead of actually farming proper content>Listen to compfag youtubers instead of the actual community>Nerf weapons in a giant ring around the rosie until nothing but raw meta abuse is left (people still meta abuse weapons surprise surprise)>Kill community servers>Make fun builds unviable>Kill the actually good matchmaking system and make it a giant fuckfest where its lightning stomps and no actual funThis was the worst one I think, I've only had decent balanced matches where both teams were fully satisfied around every half year.Fuck this shit mang.Fuck the video game industry and fuck valve.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=512pcIZOjm0&pp
>tf2 outlived overwatch, csgo, paladins and will outlive cs2, overwatch 2 and deadlockTF2 will never die
>>719388119When i couldnt spam radiochat as fast
>>719391548How was it possible to fuck up CS games?
>>719390948community servers are trannys who rage ban people, and retards micspamming 24/7
>>719388119>implying TF2 isn't still funit's two decades old and still chugging
>>719390675it's still good, just maybe not as good as you wish it was.
>>719392537they want it to die so they can move forward with a new game without people bitching about their skins
>>719388119most people on /v/ are part of the f2p cancer that ruined the game
>>719389725fucking lol, where's that from?
>>719388119The answer is always gonna be 2016 and MYM
*snort*
>>719388119Gunmetal update, then Meet Your Match.
when valve panic patched and ruined the game after overwatch release
>>719388119
Compfags ruined it with their shit balancing.Only getting worse with the Shitty seasonal cosmetics they keep implementing bloating the game with useless shit that doesn't even look good most of the time.they are trying to implement Custom server games into the shit Matchmaking system they currently have instead of just re implementing quick playliterally most of the problems could be solved by rolling back everything but there are probably a bunch of retards that unironically invested too much money into the shit cosmetics so they probably cant roll that shit back without getting into some legal trouble.
>>719390239>yup, its this. razorback is the first obviously bullshit unlockWas about to say this. That was definitely the most concerning thing about spy vs sniper.>>719390586Razorback was a pretty big warning sign that the people in charge of the game were severely lacking in common sense. Most failed weapons work on paper but not in practice. Razorback didn't even work on paper. You'll say it's a non-issue because the thing ended up being really bad and easy to bypass but that was literally the only way the weapon was going to work. If it actually was effective at its job it would have been the worst thing imaginable because the job it was intended for was a horrible idea in the first place.The kicker is the best use to be gotten out of the razorback is from the new spies who didn't know how it worked. So it's a weapon whose best use is fucking over players for being new to the game, hardly a good design.
>>719397493Everything is ruining this game.>compfags>TF2 emporium>fake community servers>valve themselvesNo one in my region even wants to touch this game anymore.
>>719388119>everybody just naming the specific period of time shortly after they started playinglmao
>>719389918It's incredible valve couldn't figure out that they didn't need to make the game round-based and it would have been better if they didn't.You look at players pre-MYM getting confused as fuck as to why the team holding mid in 5cp are suddenly declared the losers when the stalemate timer runs out and it becomes obvious no one gives a shit about the round system. The conclusion to be made would be to drop it entirely. But valve managed to go in the opposite direction with MYM.
i was fine with the orange box version
>>719398480>Most failed weapons work on paper but not in practice.That's because they didn't make many other things necessary to make it work.You wouldn't set out to make a full-course meal only to put a couple of smallest beans on your biggest plate, yes?To put in unlocks that alter gameplay one must put in many more, to expand the entire repertoire of available game options in wildly varying ways.And when rather than some 3-5 unlocks per character per update, you have an entire ecosystem, that meshes with native weapons, which themselves can be boosted (e.g. custom ammo, unlock off switches that make them mostly vanilla but turn off some of their features), then all issues would vanish.
>>719388119The correct answer of the start is the Invasion update which proved that the dogshit workshop creators are incapable of being fucking retarded. Then it was a plunge to the abyss with MyM.
Mannconomy and if you disagree you're a fucking newfag
>>719388119meet your match destroyed the game forever
>>719388119porn addicts and furries ruined the game
When became f2p
There's a daily "TF2... is DEAD" thread and has been ever since the bot hosts went down, apparently for good.I wonder why that is.
There's some fairly amusing similarities with the TFTumor scene and trannies.They pretend to be oldfagsThey pretend to understand game balanceThey demand people be forced to interact with themBut if they stopped trying to be things they're not, they'd probably be way more likable people.But you know I said something similar in 2014 and in 11 years nobody learned fuck all and there's a whole new generation of fags with terrible opinions, so this probably won't do anything for anyone.Not like the existence of b4nny doesn't immediately disprove having an "early" join date makea your opinions less shitty.
>>719388119Who cares, normal people moved on
>>719401525Ah ah ah anon, do you have a disk image of everyone involved's hard drive?Everyone knows it's 1000% Valve's fault and the bots were saving bootlickers from not playing on dogshit "user" servers nobody likes and this is not a completely schizophrenic line of reasoning.
>>719401393Furries have the longest running least shit server lmao.
>>719388119MYM undoubtedly, maybe prior updates weren't as good as previous updates, but MYM raped the game
>>719388119The Mannconomy update, which happened around the time of the Engy update.
>>719388119The worst decline of TF2 was of the playerbase. As bloated as modern TF2 is, it would still be the most fun you could have online if the playerbase from 2010 stuck around
>>719388119It's probably the oldest game with such a "healthy" community imo.
>>719397131sounds like you are just gay and you were never good at the game in the first place.
>>719402473most people grow out of games and gaming because of jobs and family aka life.
>>719402792lowest level of the pyramid
