When TES VI: Hammerfell releases, what will be the canon end to the Skyrim civil war? Stormcloak or Empire victory?
they always halfass it so the canon will be that the dragonborn skipped the civil war questline
>>719391339Even if I play imperial, obviously stormcloak victory, the whole game is about introducing the downfall of the empire in the canon
>>719391591Nah. The canon will be an outcome that can follow either path, so at minimumTullius and Ulfric will both be dead, then they just have to come up with some copout answer, like the Thalmor took over, or Balgruuf was elected high king or some shit. Something that could happen regardless of the side chosen
>>719391339Stormcloak victory but Ulfric was assassinated.
>>719391339parthurnax hegemony because i never kill him
>>719391339We might never know because Todd just HAD to make his gay space game
>>719391339Given how hard modern bethsoft tries to jerk off the player, dragon break leading to Dragonborn High King.
>>719391651>the whole game is about introducing the downfall of the empire in the canon
>>719393756This has been a running thing in the games since Redguard. The cover art of Skyrim is a chipped imperial emblem for a reason and Todd initially even wanted the premise of the game to be that the empire has already collapsed completely.
>>719393756kirkbride himself once said we'd never have a mainline TES game set in the beastlands because the overarching story "is about the downfall of man and the rise of elves" and that has absolutely played out. At the start of skyrim the Empire is on its knees and by the end of it potentially dead, depending on the players actions in the civil war + DB questline.
>>719394131>kirkbride himself once said we'd never have a mainline TES game set in the beastlands yeah but what about one that's set in both Valenwood AND Elsweyr???
>>719391339Thalmor
>>719394363Maybe if pelinal returns to finish the job
>>719394492khajiit aren't elves, they dindu nuffin
>>719391339They both lose
>>719393756Why you're talking like it's some conspiracy? It's literally the plot of the game
>>719394082See >>719355869>>719394131Anon, I'm the one that's been posting those Kirkbride decade old reddit screencaps for weeks. The idea that fucking *Skyrim*, over Morrowind's original foreshadowed sequel regarding Tharn and doppelgangers and Oblivion's ending of the Septim bloodline, is about "introducing the downfall of the empire in the canon" ("the whole game" btw) is still retarded >>719394627It's really not
>>719394967https://www.imperial-library.info/content/todd-howards-skyrim-notes>100s of years after Oblivion – Empire collapsed
but lorkhan did nothing wrong, elves are smelly except dunmer and khajiit, and humans are simply the best
>>719395090>changes his mind and commissions two novels as lead-up to Skyrim that reveal a Colovian warlord revived the Empire and is still standing two centuries after Martin's death Bravo Todd
>>719395125KHAJIIT ARENT ELVES!!!
>>719395419you come from the same old ehlnofey spirit goo that bosmer were made from and have pointy ears, you're a furry elf.
>>719396915NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
>>719391339Something something both timeline are true at the same time because the dragon anus broke
>>719391339It doesn't matter, some third party will have destroyed everything by the time VI happen and any mention of the events of Skyrim will be so vague that any camp could have won.
>>719395389The Mede emperor is killed in Skyrim and the one who paid to have him killed is part of the Elder Council. Do you think the empire is going to survive that? The answer is no, the next game will feature Tamriel having balkanized into lots of small kingdoms started by legion generals and local warlords, all fighting each other in a new Interregnum.
>>719398708>The Septim bloodline is utterly BTFO in Oblivion and this follows a demonic invasion that ravages the entirety of Tamriel. Do you think the Empire is going to survive that? The answer is no, the next game will feature Tamriel having balkanized into lots of small kingdoms started by legion generals and local warlords, all fighting each other in a new Interregnum.
>>719398708>>719399107They really fucked up by setting Skyrim 200 years after the other games instead of dealing with the integrum and fallout of the Oblivion crisis. They also fucked up with setting Skyrim 30 years after the Great War instead like 4 or 5.
>>719399107what do you hope to achieve by being a purposely disingenuous fuckwit? Since the oblivion crisis the empire has declined loads and is on its last legs with only 2.5 regions remaining at the start of skyrim, which can end with only tamriel+high rock remaining and dead a emperor.There's no way you can look at the series and argue it's not showing the decline of the man-lead empire and the resurgance of the altmer lead elven world without being an obtuse moron. You're literally ignoring objective reality.
>>719400856**only cyrodiil+high rock remaining
>>719391651>introducingLorelet-kun.. This has literally been featured in TES since the beginning. Each new iteration is another step in the direction of the downfall of the Empire. That is one the overarching themes of the whole series and is built directly into the Mer-and-Man mythos. The Empire in decline is not some new Skyrim introduction.
>>719393476Based racist pretty kitty.
>>719391339They just make a dragonbreak event and have all endings happen at the same timeCivil War ends with Skyrim still part of the Empire but Stormcloacks are in charge and Talos worship is legal with Ulfric and Tullius both being dead or alive somehow
I hope they combine hammerfell and highrock, can't see either making for a compelling setting alone.
>>719391651The whole downfall of the empire plotline really bums me outI know that it's gonna fall soon that has been clear since Tiber Septim said so in Morrowind and what remains of the empire is just pathetic but its stil sad to see ot gotes has some really cool lore and Humans being on top of the food chain in the setting after all the shit that went down is really satisfying so seing all of this being undone right before our eyes and the whole world coming to a literal end and the whole setting disappearing because a the fantasy equivalent to jews st cant deal with a bit of hard work in their lives just bums me out a bitI know it cant go on forever but i just hope there will be a happy ending for the humans and all even though that will probably not happen
>>719391339Some cataclysmic event (possibly even a Dragon Break they will justify with the Time Wounds) happened that interrupted the civil war that happened to be a dead stalemate the entire time (retards will pick specific kernels out of the turd that is this excuse to say which side was actually totally about to win) resulting in the entire conflict not even mattering and its only relevance will be explaining why Nords now have green nipples instead of pink ones or something because you'll never see it again anyway.This will be at most the third most retarded decision they will contribute to the canon with the game.
>>719391339Seeing as you can't beat Tullius and Rikke becuase they are immortal, Solitude will remain strong and the Empire wins
