>have 40 men mostly tier 1-2>joined sarranids and they started a war with rhodoks>some gigachad 120 unit officer from rhodoks accosts me>decide to flee this outnumbered 3 to 1 battle to fight another day>npc companion interrupts my travel to tell me I DONT THINK WE SHOULD RUN ANYMORE DUDE>try to talk to some sarranid officers for quests>every single one>YOU DISHONOR US BY FLEEING>-2 relationso do you just not join a faction until you have enough renown for a 100 man army of your own or what
>>719403717youre a mercenary, raid and pillage instead of fighting lords
For starters, since larger armies slow you down, you should never be in a position where a larger enemy army catches you.
>>719403891its partially because i dont have the patience for 1x speed so im constantly tapping ctrl space and that happens to be when they show up
Just started playing vanilla warband too on mobile
>>719404017that sounds horribledo you use auto block?
>>719403717ideally have some horses to boost your move speed so you can dodge the lords. rhodoks in particular are all footmen so theyre not that fast
>>719404173Ofc. The control sucks dick. Is this what consolecucks have to endure playing mountain blade on consoles?(Related prev old save w/ cheat)
If those roach fucks actually put in the time Bannerlord could be one of the best games of all time.
>>719404361Bannerlord is redditification of mount and blade.
>>719403995>tapping ctrl spaceyou didnt beat the game
>>719404470I didn't know real sieges were Reddit.
>>719404572Stfu the sieges arent that good. Barely 1 step upgrade from warband
>not soloing to level 30 with horse archery against sea raiders first to fund your enterprises in every single city on the map and getting your full list of companions in decent gear and leveled up to at least 10 or 15 before completing the recruit 5 men quest.Then you are ready.
>>719404572bathering rams are just big dilators spreading the gates open
>>719404685now say i dont want to cheese that hard because horse archers are gayshould i just train up 10 or so elite dudes to farm bandits so they dont run away from me?
has anyone actually beaten the game?Im not taking about a moded version or anything but the actual base warband game it gets borderline unplayable at the end stage when there are only 2 massive factions fighting each other trading the same shitty villages for decades and lords just disappear from the game without explanation
>>719405225that mobile warband player posteryep I have completed several warband campaignNativeSliverstagNova Aetas 4Calradia 1488I played warband back when I still have shitty toshiba netbook with low tier AMD CPU
Thinking about starting a new PoP campaign. Usually go Ravenstern to start, thinking maybe the Empire this time.
im gonna join the fuckin vaegirs
>>719405225I only play native and I have completely conquered Calradia many times, both as a ruler of my own kingdom or as a vassal for other kingdoms. Never for the Sarranids or the Rhodoks, though. The former are cockroaches and the latter are a bunch of inbred mountain hicks. I don't want to be surrounded by such people. I've had to delete old completed save games several times in the past, because there are only 9 save slots. And yes, I could have just moved the files to a different directory, but why bother, it's not like I would ever load any of these saves again.
>>719406395sarranids are king of kings infidel
>>719404685thanks for telling class you're either a troll or an abysmal player. what's next, suggesting OP to do tournaments in the early game?
>>719406749>bannerlord gloves>20 armor>200k denars
>>719406854I don't like how everyone has 100hp including looter and peasant in bannerlord
>>719407124warbandlord fixes that you have like 45hp at level 1it makes all the +5 hp skill nodes actually useful
>>719404781the alternative is just to get a shitload of sharpshooters and farm sea raiders with them. Have your companions also all be crossbowmen in the crossbow lineBasically you dont want to take losses.>>719406613tournaments are bad because they waste time training diverse weapon skills instead of the ones specifically for your planned loadout (of 2h and archery).Really horse archery against sea raiders is the most efficient way to gain money and exp, and since you cant trust the AI not to die and thus set you back you should avoid taking anything but companions early on since its no loss if they die.The only reason to play the game 'normally' is if you are trying to make a support build which is also fun. As a support build you can just go around from town to town taking quests and leveling up that way but i find a lot of the quests in the game to really kind of suck. tracking down specific enemies takes way too long sometimes.A trader roleplay start can just do a trade loop and check the guild master to see if there is a delivery quest they can snag.But neither of these are as good as just leveling up your combat abilities vs sea raiders solo. Then just solo rescue a few imprisoned nobles when you decide what faction you want to join to start building up the relationships that you can use to get married into a family and have political supporters.
40 men isn't enough no matter how good they are, unless they are all swadian Knights but even then they'll get swarmed
i had a diplomacy mod for bannerlord that allows me to send a messenger to chat with a lord without having to find themdoes warband have anything similar? i cant fucking stand grabbing a quest trying to turn it in being told the lord is in shariz and by the time i get there he went to a random castle halfway across the map
Anyone playing Shokuho?
>>719407735can i play a whiteboy with a crank minigun cart
>>719407792No. You can't even be non Japanese. Which is a shame because I was going to annoy /v/ by pretending I was really happy that I got to recreate Yasuke
>>719407335>tournaments are bad because they waste time training diverse weapon skills instead of the ones specifically for your planned loadout (of 2h and archery).tournaments are plain bad unless you already have a high level character and or you're playing Diplomacy or derivatives or it and can win high level gear from them. if you want a super cheapshit way to make money in the early game, accept the quest where you have to collect taxes, then "forget" to hand them in, get shitload of rhodok recruits, upgrade them to the most basic crossbowmen, then get the cheapest khergit cavalry, then do all of the quests that can rise your honour WHILE you're a merc and are raiding villages and caravansand I disagree. companions are for support shit, you main character should always be the keikaku doori type with maxed starting charisma, maxed starting leadership, specced to have as many troops as possible, with high surgery. make your companions your support characters, buttfuck the early game with the cheapest horse you can get and a lance. I'm by no means a Mountain Blade expert that said I'm positive this is the most busted build you can have in the early game and it's almost as broken as getting the Zweihander early in Dark Souls and leveling it up to +5 before even beating Taurus demon, by upgrading it at the blacksmith in New Londo
>>719408278also, something I noticed from Warband noobs is that they tend to overlook hiring troops for prisoners and also hiring mercs from tavernsthe former is a pain in the ass to pull off but well worth it especially in mods (there is a trick to it: if you have a town or castle, garrison all you your troops, and recruit prisoners only after you do that, from what I remember that's the safest way not to have a shitton of troops instantly defect), and mercs from taverns while expensive are pretty good troops, especially the heavy infantry
>>719405560>PooP>>719405639they have good archers
>>719403717You can just ignore all that shit. -2 to relationships or a companion temporarily leaving you isn't the end of the world. Don't be an autistic min-maxer and just roleplay as a medieval mercenary.
>>719408278lances are just too slow compared to horse archery.a player support build works, in the end it makes party skills 14 instead of like ~11 (6 int to get level 2 in all support skills for player so they boost the parties coresponding support character by +1 is efficient)But a combat built character can single handedly cheese sieges and big fights sometimes in a way that unbalances everything. FOr example if the enemy army is not attacking you, you can just ride up and snipe like 20 of his guys skewing the fight in your favor.The one counter argument here is that sharpshooters are by far the superior ranged unit, and they use bolts. This means an archery specced player cannot retrieve bolts from their own units in a siege to continune killing like a crossbow (the support players ranged weapon) can.Some sieges can be won byt just standing back with a strong shield wall untill the enemy ranged defenders run out then letting your ranged units shoot at them untill they run out, then you the player retrieve bolts stuck into the wall and use them to snipe the defenders from atop the ladder. Doing this you can do a whole siege with no losses sometimes.Taking archers to let an archer character do this doesnt work so well. support specced player character has its own tricks it can do, but powerleveling your funding by being able to solo in the field i think works out better. Early game losing money to dead troops hurts more than late game.Id avoid pissing off nobles honestly>>719408576tavern mercs are super expensive for what they get you, but one thing you can do is get the slaver path as they are all blunt focused and then capture parties of looters which are not that threatening to higher tier slavers. You then sell these looters for 100 a pop to the slaver in shariz (i cant remember if this requires diplomacy or is native but everyone should play with diplomacy).Thats a decent money making strat, i do that some time on my merchant roleplay games
>lance cavtrash>poleaxereal shit
>Horse archer is super broken, Anon!>You can solo all battles Anon for real!>Try it>xbox huge crosshair >Arrows go all over the place except the target>Take forever to reload>Level 1 starving peasant bandit in his underwear can take half your hp throwing rocks>Takes 3 arrows to die (if you hit him at all)Never listening to /v/ again.
>>719410104dude just farm sea raiders with horse archery!>75% of the sea raiders have range attacks>the ones who dont have big shields and you need to shoot their big toe to do damage>half the time aiming at their toe the arrow still flies into their oversized dinnerplate
>>719404017>mobilewhat????
>>719403717>he doesn't savescum in mount & bladeyou've brought this upon yourself anon
What are the best total conversion mods?A friend was telling me a Game of Thrones one was fun
>>719410273>Every enemy is a sniper that never misses
>>719410386Paradigm Worlds.
>>7194103861866
>>719410104>>719410273git gud?the reticle decreases as archery skill goes up (and you want a few levels in horse archery). early on you have to trot slowly and kite, at high levels and with practice you can zoom past things and snipe their head when you are in the zone.Sea raiders are one of the easier factions to solo because they have fewer ranged guys than something like taiga bandits. The method for fighting any ranged unit is to have a horse and ride circles around them untill they run out of ammo. Then they all default to melee and bunch up. You then trott in front of them and head shot them when they wind up to attack you (thus lowering their shield).It is useful to invest in an armored horse early on though, because occasionally it will take a hit being a big target. Of course this is if you play with diplomacy horse speed reduction when wounded on, if you have it off it doesn't matter that much. Just ride in circles untill they are out of ammo.This is distinctly different vs bandit factions that always charge than against enemy armies who might sometimes hold formation and refuse to advance. For those you just park your army safely away from them and go ride up on a flanking hill or something and snipe the sitting ducks
>>719410713also i should say, while fighting bandits, its good to do player horse cheesing tricks anyway to keep your guys safe. drawing out all the sea raiders throwing weapons before they meet your army for example keeps your recruits from getting instagibbed
>>719410104>>719410273I don't know how you even get into these situations. The archery works the same as in any other pre-2015 game - it makes sense after you catch on to the ballistics and put a few points into the skill. The crosshair is only big because you're moving on the horse too fast and don't have much archery skill. And you still have a have a lance and sword like a normal cavalry, you just lack a shield. This build makes 1 v ~20 battles trivial no matter who the enemy is>break infantry shields with lance>kill enemy horses with lance and bow>ride around and shoot/lance/sword themIt's not my go to build but I've done it loads, it's certainly functional>>719410483If you're riding straight into them, yes. That's how it should work.
>>719410273>Step 1: Ride circles around them so they waste their projectiles>Step 2: Slowly trot so you're leading them as they closely follow>Step 3: By being close enough, one will ready his weapon which let you shoot him in the face>Step 4: Repeat Step 3 until they are all dead
>>719411092thats so fucking boring you might as well just activate cheats and spawn in some gold
>>719411291its boring as hell, that's why I do more fun ways to build up strength in the early game
>>719411291its simple and repetitive and allows you to listen to audio books while watching number go upits peak kino
Do you guys even bother with tactics in big battles? Or do you just press f1 + f4?
>>719410386that feudal japan one
>>719413406I try to get my infantry, archers and cavalry in a line at least, infantry up front and archers on the high group, and the cavalry either on the high ground or just following me. There's very little time usually to get everyone set up
>>719413406only vaegirs need to use tacticsalso i sure hope you guys dont use mixed armies
every playthrough i tell myself this will be the run i do athleticism and tell my horse to fuck offthen i get swarmed by looters and equip a horse
>>719413406yeah, I go with the classic archers on top of a hill near the corner of the map, infantry in front of them, bait, and then wreck shit with cavalry
>>719413406I use tactics in mods that have expensive cavalry like VC or 1257. You just can't afford to lose any so I end up controlling them from a distance with F1+hold. I leave them to the side until the enemy cavalry expends itself, then I use mine to charge and retreat repeatedly. >>719413617I hate it when mods have tiny maps. Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth is a good example. Great mod but the enemy cavalry is already charging you within the first 30 seconds so it's hard to do much.
>>719403717You should get troops from the Khanate so that you have nothing but horse archers that can win any battle on plain terrain no matter the numbers.
>>719414762no slant eyed horse niggers in my company
>>719414929Enjoy being slow and weak then.
>>719415189im not weak dumb faggot i have jeremus
>>719407735Oh shit, it actually came out?Is it good?
I have no idea how you peasants play without maxing trade as early as possible. I start my games with a skill already unlocked at level 1. Money moves the world, peasants.
>>719417542Idk i just get insane money from bloodshed
>>719403717you join big ongoing battles and avoid getting bamboozledalso you have 40 guys who are t1-2, getting rekt and imprisoned for a week really isn't the end of the world. You WILL lose some battles because you got caught with your pants down, that's the nature of the game
>>719417740But why get insane money when you can get even more insane money!
>>719404681the fact that you can build individual siege weapons and use them in sieges and have them make a difference is already a trillion steps above warband you stupid dumb fucking nigger
bannerlord is better
>>719417982as long as i have a mod to get rid of the "learning rate" level up system its fucking aids
>>719405560RP with the heir of Pendor start, join Sarleon, make enough friends to fuck up Sarleon when you kick off a civil war, take Sarleon itself being the old capital of Pendor, and crown yourself as king of New Pendor
>>719408641mod?
>>719418119PropheSy of Pendor with a mod that adds a Colt Walker
>>719418071>the "learning rate" level up systemqrd? Never played 2
>>719418274when you level up you get skill pointsadded skill points raise the level limit of skills by like 25 and when you are under the limit you get an xp multiplierthe problem is without the multiplier shit levels slow as molasses you could kill 10 enemies with a one hand sword and gain zero levels at 50you also get level limit from attributes instead of getting weapon skill points etc from attributes
>>719404572>scripted sieges>realHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>719418387>What do you mean I have to actually build my character?>Why can't I be good at everything from the go?
>>719418473>>Why can't I be good at everything from the go?Yes.
>>719418473"build"by level 20 you have 5 points in pretty much every skill that matters but you still level everything over 150 slow as fuck its a shit system dude
>>719418697Are you mad for not having skills that don't matter leveled? Have you heard about companions? They are suppose to help you with stuff you character isn't good at.
>>719410386Prophesy of Pendor feels like the most completed, all-around modBeing able to create a custom knight order is pure kino
What's the one good unit I can build an army with in Butterlord? I'm too lazy to have different groups of units and shit
>>719417982I wanted and tried to believe this for years, but it's simply not as fun as Warband. Not sure why, but it just isn't.
>>719418773im mad at max skill points and 10 strength getting a weapon past 150 is barely going to happen by the time you own half the worldplus 50% of the perks being fucking worthless too
>>719418776khuzait khans guard
>>719418776Heavy cavalry goes neeeeiiigh>What about spears?Never seen them.
>be sturgian>best infantry is just the cavalry dismounted
>>719418960>horse archers are also the best heavy cav aroundof course
>>719418776wut? The most fun thing in the game is to have enemy charge your infantry shieldwall while you flank them in the ass with your cavalry. And your archers/xbows are on high ground behind the shield wall
Vanilla bannerski lord good yet?
>>719403717Pick your battles better!Attack caravans or weakened lords; raid villages if you are morally disposed toAlso; don't questcuck for anyone except ladies you want to marry or villages; the higher the relationship with the village the better number and quality of recruits
>>719419156>le epic flank>or just run straight into the enemy with your cavalry and obliterate them
>start sarranid>all the bandits are horsies>get captured>break out>get captured again before i can make it to a town
>>719418849its the skill system. it forces you to shape your entire gameplay around the skills you are trying to level up
>>719419354pathfinding saves lives
>>719419314for me its letting the ai fight eachother while i troll the enemy archer line with my horsie>>719419357i hate the tournaments in bannerlord because everyone brings their armor while if you try to do them early your in rags
*throws bomb*
>>719403717Absolutely your fault for getting caught by a 120-man army when you have 40, you should be running circles around him on the map even if you don't have a path finding companion.
>>719405225YesIt's possible but you really need to spend the misnamed setting it up for yourself-- max productive enterprise output+ a few good fiefs and at and two or three villages in each culture at max relation really help cut down on the tedium-- at some point you will dominate everything on the field so it's all just the long grind of sieges, but it's not so bad if you bring a bow, put on some music and just chillHaving a few lords on your side to harass enemy lords helps as well; I did it with a dishonorable character and managed just fine in vanigglia
Why the fuck are starting towns always empty of recruits? And mules are expensive at the start of the game.
>>719419460give them a volley
>>719419357Oh no I have to play the entire game horse archering and twohanding, just like I did in Warband. The horror
>>719419523Midgame*** not misnamed
>>719404017you can instal mods on this?
What should I be aiming at in the endgame? I don't care about any of this "make your own fun" nonsenseHelping whatever king of the faction I spawned near to? Making my own faction? Just being a mercenary bouncing between factions?
>>719419732help a claimant 4 the lulz
>>719419732Do you want Calradia for yourself or for one of the kings?Choose and fight all the way to the end
Anyone play Mountain Blade but with assault rifles?IIRC it was alright but got abandoned
>>719419732Become king of your own nation and take over the entire continent.
>>719419871The actual answer if this was a YOU CAN DO ANYTHING game would be to help one of them unite Calradia while plotting with nobles who like me to coup the fuck out of him
>>719419584>playing what i want to play, if i want a support ability i just spend a point on itvs>grinding arbitrary skills to get mandatory perksits shit, you are shit, developers are shit, anyone who ever thinks 'you play the skill and that raises it' is good is a retard who falls for every single 'play it your way™' marketing line on store pages and whats worse, legitimately believes they are having fun doing it because lacking the cognative ability to instantly recognize how this is bad design is so below the bar of introspection and self awareness that they will spend the rest of their lives damaging their souls and being none the wiser while preaching their shit takes openly so shit developers who secretly, secretly, really want to be shit at all times, feel vindicated picking that one smelly voice out of the crowd to cater to.Its all divine punishment. God punishes sin with stupidity. The developers are punished for making video games, the players are punisiehd for playing video games, im punished with the knowledge to recognize it all and do nothing to stop it.
>>719419970You can do thatYou can conquer the whole map for your lord and still rebel at the end and spend ten years taking it from them
>>719403717never had this problem and I always flee if outnumbered
>>719420018>anyone who ever thinks 'you play the skill and that raises it' is goodIt's good in Morrowind and Kingdom Come but those are specifically designed so you can become a jack of all trades, master of all
Farm honor and never raid or attack civilians, have a full complement of int companions and stack training levels on all of them, pick a couple villages to regularly do quests for, set up enterprises as early as you can. This is the way.
>>719420046That's not a coup, that's just declaring your own kingdom but making it harder for yourself by already having the map pre-united so you're fighting the entire world at once
>>719420093morrowind is about getting everything to 100, but endurance first, by picking the skills you dont want to play as your primary skills so you can control your level up pace and ensure you always get 5x multipliersthe fact that you dont need to do any of this is and can just enchant yourself 100% sanctuary clothes is not a defense, the system itself is under scrutiny morrowind being easy is incidental
>>719419891Still pissed about this, they had working features like tanks that were cut and never added again.
Any Mountain Blade likes I haven't heard of?>M&B games obviously>Battle Bros>Wartales
>>719420018also im employing hyperbole for effect im not really mad at you so dont feel bad. im right though its a bad system
>>719420331Forgot to say Kenshi, if you respond Kenshi I will drink from your skull
>>719403717You just use cheats (ctrl + h) over and over again to heal and mow them all alone (as a woman).
>>719420390You speak like you use all the skills all the time in equal manner. Now be quiet and go back to your horse archer and two handed.
>>719420228So you dislike systems because you can't help but autistically minmax. Makes sense
>>719420331>>719420395starsectorstarpoint gemini warlords, arguablyare some space ones
>>719420484Star Traders Frontiers, now that you mention spaceI own the entire Starpoint series and should get around to playing them
>>719420018NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you have to buy 99 grain 99 fish 99 butter 99 dates 99 sumpter horses 99 meat and run across the nation to sell them for a 200 shekel profit for 1 trade level!
>>719420331Sid Meier's Pirates, which inspired the original game
>>719420584>NOOO I HAVE TO LEVEL TRADE BECAUSE... BECAUSE I HAVE TO!
>>719420160It's close enough to a proper coup, if you spend time building good relations with the right lords it doesn't take much to convince them to defect to your side-- and sieging the remainder of the king's holdings is a cinch if you get enough of themIt's not completely intriguemaxxed le evil vizier steals the kingdom kind of stuff; but it is sort of realistic in that it erupts into an proper civil war, so long as you spend the right time plotting and setting the groundwork
Does Bannerlord still do the thing where your party gets faster on the map by putting horses in your inventory? I always thought that was a shit mechanicI'm fine with giving companions horses and upgrading to cavalry troops making you faster, but the inventory shit was silly. No I don't care that it was supposed to be pack horses>>719420626Does that game have an end state by the way? I don't remember if there's a win condition
>>719420331this >>719419891Also the guy who made this https://store.steampowered.com/app/3447280/Fantasy_World_Manager/ is working on a 2D M&B but with a much bigger scale.
>>719420715>Does Bannerlord still do the thing where your party gets faster on the map by putting horses in your inventory? I always thought that was a shit mechanicthis is somewhat also in Warband by the way, except they nullify the weight of items you carry in your inventory
bannerlord is better because i get to keep ira in a constant state of breeding
>>719420820>this is somewhat also in WarbandThat's what I meant, I understand I worded it ambiguously. Never played Bannerlord and I was asking if it has that mechanic
>>719420869its even more useful to have a horse for every infantry in your party in bannerlord because you dont have inventory slotsas long as they arent pack animals you can get like 1.0 bonus speed as a inf on cav bonus
3 horses is all you need, the benefit of more is minimal due to the formula
>>719420921>its even more useful to have a horse for every infantry in your party in bannerlord because you dont have inventory slotsSo the optimal state is to have like 200 fucking horses?>>719420978What about your companions?
>>719421008if you have 200 infantryyep
>>719421008>So the optimal state is to have like 200 fucking horses?Yes. That or be slow as snail.
>>719420978this is for warband that is. seems like this is another place bannerlord made things worse>>719421008if its just you and your companions then it will make a difference but honestly once you are dragging an army around it doesnt matter much if they are on foot or notjust get someone with 10 pathfinding
>>719421115>making it easier to hunt down big AI armies>worse
>>719421154its conceptually neat but in butterlord you just have a stack of horses in your inventory they should have just implemented this some other way, such as having units come with their own abstracted non battle horses like all their equipment comes
>>719419314>playing on easiest difficulty and ally damage reduced
Okay I'm gonna play Bannerlord for the first time. What's objectively the best faction?The entirety of my Warband "skill" is>hire Swadian Knights>tell all units to charge>activate couched lance and ride past enemies
>yes sir our village could use some help we need 9 heads of catt->raid village
>>719421494Imperial. Bring back Rome.
>>719421494you sound like a vlandian enjoyer>>719421539bannerlord imperials are dirty stinky byzantines
>>719420331Horizon's GateLunatic Dawn series kind of, it predates Mount & Blade. Cyber Knights Flashpoint, the game isn't open world though
>>719421574>bannerlord imperials are dirty stinky byzantinesSo they are the actual sons of the Roman Empire.
>>719421574>byzantinesSo, Romans? Also the faction most fitting to "bring back Rome"
>>719421668>Horizon's GateIsn't that a normal party-based RPG where you fight your way through story bosses and shit?>Cyber Knights Flashpoint??????? That's an XComWhat exactly does MB-like mean to you?
>>719421720they lost to arabs by compromising over and over with them over the centuries and not responding to the threat directly. that is very unroman of them.england and the anglo are the truest descendant of rome, up until the 20th century at least.now there is no rome and everyone is letting the barbarians in
>>719421739imps couldnt even survive 200 yearsLOL!>>719421867yeah kept handing khosrow gold so they could go get italy and set it back another 300 years ravaging the countryside BUT AT LEAST THEY HECKIN GOT ROME BACK
>>719421842>Isn't that a normal party-based RPG where you fight your way through story bosses and shit?No. Not even sure what you're confusing it with. >MB-like mean to you?Open ended game where you play as a mercenary or adventurer and are free to go about your business as you please, which is what Cyber Knights does since the game is literally just straight up being a cyberpunk mercenary, no hidden twists or turns.
>>719414219>Swadian knights and sergeant>Rhodok sharpshooters and sergeant>Vaegir marksmen>Nordic Huscarls and Vetaran Archersyep, it's raiding time
>>719404681Warband is a better game than Bannerlord, but we both know that you're lying hereThe only thing worse about sieges in Bannerlord than Waband's is the withdrawal exploit
>>719422284I don't care about roleplaying or anything like that, but what do you do if you need to replace one of those troop types but are at war with that faction, or have been at war in the past so the villages hate you?
>>719403717>99 relation with a village>70 recruits volunteer to follow youi will fuel this war machine
The true successor line goes Rome > Holy Roman Empire > France (when Napoleon dissolved the HRE) > Russia (Napoleon's invasion) > Japan (Russo-Japanese war) > USA (when they made Japan a vassal state)
>>719422425the only ones I can't go to war with until late game is Swadia, because of the knights. As you might have guessed my first targets are Khergits and Serranids
>>719422561Rome > ERE > Ottomans > Turkey, actually
>>719422680lmao you Muslims animals always trying to get fame for stuff you didn't do.
>>719422680Wrong, after Ottomans it would go to Bulgaria
i love playing the aserai in bannerlord because their t1 infantry look like dubai oil barons
>>719422734Sorry anon, when Mehmed planted the minarets around Hagia Sophia, Rome's legacy became rightful Ottoman clay.>>719422747This can also be true.
>>719422921Barbarians can never inherit the Empire of Roma. Islam will forever be a barbaric religion followed by retarded inbreed demon worshipers.
Doesn't Butterlord have the east and west roman empire
>>719423079Yes.
>>719423079Been a while since I played vanilla, but I think it has 3 empires
>>719422425Mamlukes and vaegir Knight are both capable of rolling over ten times their number when spammed, swadian marksmen can substitute for rhodock marksmen. Huscarls are harder to replace but sergeants are good units and infantry is the weakest of the trinity anyway. It's just a war not forever, and once you get a castle or town you can stuff it with spares of your favorite troops for when your supply is cut for a long time. Personally I never raid as I am a big believer in honor maxing, so I never have a problem with villagers hating me.
>>719422425>>719423170BlablablablablaHaving more people than the enemy > MUH EXPEART TACTICS
>>719423079Yeah, its senate, army, and emperors widow>>719423008Right of conquest. Sorry.
>>719423170>Personally I never raid as I am a big believer in honor maxingDamn man where do you get money from, then
>>719422561Rome > Byzantium > Russia (Third Rome) > USSR > Transnistria (by inheritance)
>>719423236Rome wasn't conquered that day. It was finally destroyed. You are nothing but a ruler of ashes and barbarians.
>>719423249Enterprise in every town, owning towns outright, in pinch selling off the prisoners but unless I am upgrading hundreds of knights quickly your passive income should keep you afloat.
>>719416181Banger, but sometime it would get a lil bit jittery with graphic, and the face are ugly, bannerlord did not made for asian characters creation
>>719422561Rome>Byzantium>HRE>Byzantium again>Ottomans>Russia (but only for a little bit)>Britain>USA>China
>>719423307Thousand year Byzantine history? Yep, its Turks' now. Sorry anon.
>>719403717As other anons have said pick your battles anon. You shouldn't be getting hit by 120 Rhodok footsloggers as a 40 man warband. I wouldn't recommend doing it on your character (unless you're roleplaying), but get a companion with good Spotting, Path Finding and Tracking skills, someone like Borcha. Get them to join your party and level them up, the higher the skills the more information you'll get from the world map. Terrain is important, fighting Rhodoks on the hills is always nasty, try and draw them to the plains if you're a cavalry army, also tactics matters. Enemy lord armies are organised, bandits are just mobs who bumrush you. The tactic skill itself affects things like reinforcements and battle numbers, so again try and have another companion handle it.The lords have different personalities and approve and disapprove of different things, they also have their rivalries. You can tell their personalities by their stock lines when talking to them, or you can mod it in. Plus or minus 2 disposition is barely anything in the long run.Good luck anon, it's a quirky old game but it's fun once you get the hang of it.
>>719423475massive trvke right here
So is the new DLC just gonna delete Sturgia then?
Buy more horses and improve the tracking skill so you're faster than everyone and can't get forced into a fight you don't want
Choose.
>>719423850
>>719423763I do this not to run away as much as to catch those delicious bandit piñatas.
>>719406395Rhodoks are the best though. The way they just drop huge amounts of dudes in a second with the crossbows is super satisfying.>>719405225Never, A few times I've gotten close, but it was clear I already won and didn't feel like spending another 10-20 hours just mopping up the scraps so I quit and started a new game.
people actually beat this fucking game? i always grinded up to have the best armor and then got bored after finally getting killed and not being able to build up an army again.
>>719403717Here's a guide from 2013 made by an Anon that's still goodhttps://imgur.com/a/mount-blade-guide-FMAqV
The game would have been better if it used real kingdoms and names instead. >>719424112The game can not be beaten. It has no ending. You are suppose to play until you get bored and then play something else for a while.
>>719424112Yes I've done it three times for all the achievements and it's a chore. Shit is not worth it but damn the early and mid game is fun.
>>719424112you couldnt beat my fucking cock bitch```
>>719423475>Rome> Degenerate pretendersFixed for you. There was only one Rome.
>>719420331Feudalism, a flash game, very simple but fun 2d mountainblade-like.Play Feudalism 2. It's the best one. It's on flashpoint or you can just google it and play it on a web browser.
I have never survived a battle with more than 50 people.
Boats are fucky.
>>719424336Are those Dark Elves?
>>719424068
Play Dickplomazon
>>719424452Can you rape women after defeaten them?
>>719424319Do emulators get around the site locked content or is it impossible to make a custom character now?
>>719424507yes
What's the best unit if I don't wanna use horses (they're a crutch)
>>719424637Mmm...
>>719422425>or have been at war in the past so the villages hate you?Simply don't raid villages (or gather taxes or kill fugitives) and they won't hate you. It's that simple. If you have a positive relationship with the village, you can even hire troops while you're at war with the owning faction.
>>719405225Not the base game, but mostly because I only ever did one full run of the base game before going to Viking Conquest then doing a bunch of other modules after.I've fully beaten Viking Conquest and Pendor once each without cheating, and both times I massively regretted bothering, because in both I had "won" 20+ hours ago but spent the vast majority of my conquest resupplying and in long sieges.Nowadays once I get into the late game with my own kingdom I just edit the inis to reduce the food upkeep of my army to maybe 5%
>>719424652Vaegir marksmen. Get 14 engineering and 14 surgery and an army of half marksmen and half infantry can solo every single castle in the game, including Grunwalder.
>>719424452tell me more
>>719403717garbage tier game compared to bannerlord
>>719424851dickplomacy mod with swadians changed into an amazon faction
>>719410386Warsword Conquest
>>719405225If you think the base game is bullshit try completing the "quests" in With Fire and Sword.
>>719424897vanilla factions seems kinda lame even with amazons
>>719424534FlashpointArchive allows for custom characters.https://flashpointarchive.org/100% recommended, it's fucking amazing anyway if you have any interest in flash games as it has almost all of them.
>>719424652Rhodok Sargeants
>>719410386I just played Nova Aetasit is probably my favorite concept and setting out of any mod it just had one too many mishmashed ideas and was overly ambitious
>>719424923Of course your men will get BLASTED if their commander ABANDONS THEM
>>719403717Why does the guy on the cover look so fruity?
>>719425179>another fight against trash mobs
>>719424923lmao this reminds me at the end of bandit camps>Hurr durr 1vs1 me bitch NAh nigger fuck off now get gang banged by my troops, and I mean that literally.
>>719403717Reminder that Almerra is the best castle in Native, open courtyard surrounded by walls, this shit is Verdun in Calradia
>>719425194because he is a she
Take the WFaS pill and go play merchant in that game dudes (because it is more of a power fantasy with how easy trading is, then there's enough money sinks)However maps are still as small as they were in Warband so a random musket shot can one shot you in spawn even if you are armored up and make you lose your entire band.Also no Crimean storyline despite being a Turkish game. (Poles, Russians, and Cossacks have their own questlines) Swedes also have no storyline of their own.
>>719420331Sands of Salzaar, its ARPG instead of 3rd person and has its flaws but I like it.
>>719425086it was originally supposed to be a total conversion with each faction changed into a different amazon group and one turned into a greek hoplite faction as well
>>719425430how's the dicking part
>>719425430>it was originally supposed to be a total conversion with each faction changed into a different amazon group and one turned into a greek hoplite faction as wellNah how are we suppose to rape them if there are no male factions?>Greek?Like I said, no male factions.
>>719425286Fuck this castle. I took hours to build a 200 strong army for the first time and they got turned into pincushions by Rh*dick crossbowmen.
>>719420772The guy is working on 2 games at the same time? That game looks really interesting.
>>719404017Does it work on Android 15? Or is this emulation?
>>719425614Can't you just starve them to death?
>>719425286Every castle in the game can be taken in 2 days with minimal casualties if you know what you're doing.
>>719425661It takes 30 days for that to happen, that is a massively long time in this game and I don't think I have ever had a siege last that long
>>719425661I've never done that in thousands of hours of play time. Does it even work?
in vanilla do you run out of bolts in a siege
>>719425924I once had a castle surrender to me when there were 5 or so defenders left and I had an army of 150 or so. The defenders will say something to the effect of them agreeing to hand over the castle if they are allowed to leave unharmed. That was long before their food stores had run out, though, so no idea what happens if they actually do run out.
>>719425932no just shoot the enemy's bolts back at them or grab quivers from dead guys on the wall
>>719426825How about those barrels with ammo scattered around the siege?
>>719426892not real
Is there even any reason to do anything but archery/horse archery? Shit's OP
>>719427231lance is fun
>>719426975I'm sure I saw one that one time.
>>719427493nope, not real, fake news, no such thing
>>719427231Grabbing a great hammer and using the overhead swing to crush through the enemy's pathetic attempt at blocking is fun. Bonk, bonk, bonk, down go the bandits.
Tell me about Dickplomacy. Is it good? Can one play a futa?
>>719427608>Just kite him until he wastes his ammo, bros.
>>719427578>crush through the enemy's pathetic attempt at blockingThis is not an actual mechanict. guy who just got his lance parried by a dude with a flimsy sword while going 40 mph on my horse
>>719427670Don't axes go through shields and hammers through armor?
>>719427662>There has to be more to life than this
>>719427231Its pretty skill point thirsty, and you are kind of capped by your arrow supply. If you just take a one handed, two handed, and two shields you have a lot of points you can put into INT to try out boosting your companions INT skills, which is fun build in itself when you are rocking around with 14 engineering. Horse archery is extremely satisfying when you start doing the full gallop headshots tho.
>>719427730>>719427670If it has "can crush through blocks" then yes it happens and is so satisfying.
>>719420480>autistically do shit most humans doi know you hear it all the time but youre a real nigger
>>719427654>futaStop this degenerate.
>>719427730bolts can go through shields with low resistance. I don't really know how "crush through blocks" interacts with shields. Pierce (and possibly blunt?) damage can ignore some armor, which is why the awlpike is the only spear in the game that is actually good.
Min maxers can go fuck themselves. Slightly lower stats compared to swadian knights means nothing in a player controlled party.Mamlukes are the coolest unit. Best aesthetics. Great armor and shield. Best 1H weapon unit when dismounted.They’re great in sieges too.
>>719428326>implying I'm smarter than the AI
>>719428326Man, I never get to post this.
>>719428326good chance of having blunt weapons as well, the ransom broker approves.
>>719428326Two slighly less OP units > one OP unit.
>>719425559Oh, sorry, you can pretend they're from Troy .. thats in turkey
Just play Prophecy of Pendor and have every unit be overpowered
>>719428584fuck off demon
>>719428584>Grind out firearms skill>Give my custom knight order flintlocksOh yeah baby, it's 16th century japanese warfare time.
>>719428326this KILLS the mongol
>>719428870Real talk, does ANYONE like playing as the horse fuckers? I don't think even the horse archer cheese users even like them, since they just get in the way of their own cheesing.
>>719420018Okay cool, I will continue to enjoy games featuring leveling-by-doing.
>>719405225No. These games are only fun in the beginning. Once you start fighting kindgoms it becomes a drag.
>>719418849its literally the same game with a new coat of paint
>>719428980they have gay haircuts so noleast cool looking faction
>>719419041>be sturgian>gonna get passed around like a dirty slut between the nords, battania, vlandia, empire, and kuzhait when the dlc comes outcant wait
butter
>>719429548
>>719427730Axes break shields a lot faster.
>>719404350consoles don't use touchscreens anon
>>719429253you need cock
Screaming and farting latrine mod
>>719430758wat
>>719405225Shit happened when I was in Uni so I locked myself inside my room and played vanilla M&B Warband from start to finish as an independent character taking over the world.The game has no depth after you have spent 100 hours playing it and actually conquering Calradia requires over 1000 hours if you are not cheesing everything.I am 100% sure that that playthrough was the single greatest waste of time in my entire life.
>>719431830I know the feeling. I lived in a foreign city for a year and did nothing but play mount and blade. Loud filthy place anyway
>>719405449>screenshotIn his autistic mind this is just like a LOTR cinematic.
>>719431830But did you enjoy it
>>719432420I want to say no because someone may be convinced that it is worth doing (DO NOT DO IT), but yes.Especially playing large scale battles with Forces from Berserk playing in the background was great fun throughout the endgame.
who's your squad you're talking over Calradia with?who do you make general?
>>719410386Nova Aetas
>>719413406>If you kill your enemies, you win. Sun Tzu taught me that.
>>719424405yes from warhammer fantasy
>>719403717Just avoid lords if you're a weak bitchGet some mounties and raid caravans
How the fuck do I play Pendor? Every single leader character has a dark souls tier HP
>>719423170>Personally I never raid as I am a big believer in honor maxing, so I never have a problem with villagers hating me.Being able to have more conscripts is always nice. I'm a big believer in high morale being preferable over some unwashed rabble that can barely hold the line to save themselves. If it's good enough for them to die for your cause the lest you can do is ensure that they have a good time going there. Not having to raid like a noble nigger helps in that regard. Private silk works and breweries to top up at between skirmishes also assists with keeping everyone in the green.
>>719434545>Deshavi>Bunduk>Ymira >Katrin>Jeremus the Beloved
>>719435834Get Ravenstorm archers until you start to snowball out of control. In two cities, cant remember the names, one in Ravenstorm and the other in the Nords there's a guaranteed gem spawn in a hidden chest. Use those two to get an enchanted 2H sword that swings as fast as you can click
>>719428424Wew
>>719428980>canonically gets Cuman'd by the Not-Mongols rolling through from the far east in Nova Aetas>never fully recovers from it and the other factions just don't even give a shit LolLmoa
>>719413406I was once forced to playing PoP>get caught by 1000+ strong demon army>massively outnumbered and eventually left with a handful>map has a high hill near the edge and relatively flat land in front>put archers on top, infantry on hills edge and order calvary to me>let archers fire while infantry defends them>lead routine charges through back and forth across the field >always hit from the side and don't take too much aggro>surprisingly effective, demons taking way more casualties despite being stronger>repeat until being taken down>surgery and first aid keeping gradually weaker soldiers fighting as demon team loses everyone who goes down>eventually demons have nothing but dregs and get swept
>>719429338>>719419041>going to lose a decent portion of your shit to your frostnigger brothers across the sea because the kebabs are too lazy to make entirely original stuff for themBeing a Sturgian is suffering.
>>719425342WFAS is based and underratedBut yeah, lack of main quests for Crimeans and Swedes sort of suckNot like the quests are anything to really write home about; they are buggy messes
>>719427670Couched lances can crush through blocks but can sometimes be chambered If you thrust then yes it will be blocked Mindless nigger
m&b mfs I have a question, i've never played these games before. Do I need any patches if i want to try warband or anything like that.
>>719436343Another think is get Barclay adventurers, upgrade them into crossbowmen and then upgrade them into riflemen. They fuck up everything that moves
>>719418776Forestnigger firing lines with Fian Champs. Providing Calanog hasn't already collapsed the high kingdom with his retarded antics.>hearing a 300+ strong salvo of bodkins flying overhead and watching the whole right side of the screen lighting up like a sea of green
>>719436836>firearms killed the human tankfeels bad man
>>719437106Warband is good because it doesn't get regualr updates that buckbreaks everything with incompatibilities. Larger mod selection that covers a wider base of niches ranging from zombie apocalypse, Sengoku era Japan. SEAmonke wars between the Dai Viet and the Champa and basegame Warband with religions and a New World to live out your conquistador fantasies. Bannerlord will be in limbo for a while when their next DLC comes out.
I put so many hours into Vanilla Mount and Blade and then Warband in high school. Good memories doing clan wars and all that. I was so stoked for Bannerlord too, especially when it was said it would be early Middle Ages, a time period which I was obsessed with and read tons of historical fiction about. It took too long to come out; I had mostly moved on by the time it finally did, and the final product just wasnt that amazing. I put like 40 hours in and never looked back. In hindsight, that's already a lot of time and I think any game that entertains for that long is decent (and it is) but compared to my over 1k hours of warband? Those are shoes to big to fill, disappointment was inevitable.
>>719403995you took a risk and paid for it
>>719437641>Bannerlord will be in limbo foreverFTFYRemember that time 10 years ago Turkey had a coup? Bannerlord had already been in dev hell for ten years before that
>>719437782>Remember that time 10 years ago Turkey had a coup?Is that why the current sultan is such a dickweed? I don't know much about kebab history outside of Taleworlds originally being a husband and wife team before they became a state enterprise and the Zaporozhian reply.
>>719437696There's that other game where you can play as a time traveling burger that goes back to the Middle Ages with guns. Fully redndered destruction, massive pitched battles and a basic command system. Otherwise there is Bellwright, Manor Lords and another smaller one with a Dutch name. Voot Der Hoot or some shit.
>>719434545Always Lezalit and Artimenner.
>>719419679Yes, I was thinking installing Calradia 1448 again. That mod has nice armouries
>>719425659I use Winlator 10, and my android is like version 13. Yes, it is emulation.
>>719407735*blocks your path*
>>719438356>There's that other game where you can play as a time traveling burger that goes back to the Middle Ages with guns.What game is this?
>>719438356>>719440959Kingmakers?
>>719441186holy damn is this real or just another one of god's cruel jokes to mock me with something that could be fun but turns out to be scam shit vaporware instead?
>>719425286I recognise that castle, omg it was bullshit
>>719437982Nah, Erdoğan's endgoal was always this. He just became PM in his late 40s so he was able to take his sweet time. That "coup" was just him&his supporters falling out with a group like theirs that helped Erdoğan to take over state institutions by providing a pool of bureaucrats, they were just mad Erdoğan wasn't sharing the power and letting them do things relatively independently from him. Turkish GDP decreased after he started to show his authoritarianism for like 10 years until after covid, he used inflation to cut spending, raise taxes, lower wages as well as pensions and fucked over people in various ways to make the rich richer and fuel growth, the usual.Nowadays Erdoğan got both the Turkish nationalist and Kurdish nationalist parties under his thumb, he's claiming to make peace while in actuality he's giving them God knows what concessions to change the constitution in a way that'll make him president for life. Leading opposition candidate and İstanbul mayor was arrested with sham charges in spring. There's no hope, people still like him, polls show the total percentage of his new political alliance is over 50%. I'd kill myself if I weren't scared+GTA 6
I find it endlessly amazing how I have weeks worth of hours of gameplay with this title but have never beaten it. Never had a castle of my own. Never took over a single damn thing. I just make a group of like forty dudes and wander around slaving and fighting in tourneys.
>>719441186damn that looks fun
>>719420331the genre needs an actual name before some journo coins one or it gets stuck with something like stratrpg-simI like "warlord game"
>>719420331Pro Bass
>>719442303baklava
>>719413406I personally escort my horse archers while everybody else does their own thing
>>719403717It's been like ten years since I played this, but I remember having some issue raising troops until I figured out a somewhat abusive strategy:first of all, your main issue isn't that you're outnumbered, it's that your troops are weak and get bashed in by medium level troops.but the number of troops you have with you affects the size of bandit groups you find on the map. So what you do is first train a group between 8 and 20 to max level, then you keep recruiting a couple more low level peasants. During battle if you can you keep them to the back line with commands, but if not, generally just having tough troops with you helps you beat any lower level troops with minimal losses. the low level troops gain XP quickly from just taking part in the fights and level up without doing any real fighting, and this is how you can train a regime of top level troops before joining any of the lords for their wars. you don't need a 100 troops in total, 50 top tier troops of almost any sort is already really strong and your movement speed will be a lot better.
>>719413406I can't command infantry units without it getting ripped to shreds so I always leave them with the AIOther than that most battles I always go>archers engage enemy infantry>cavalries charge at enemy archers>few highest tier cavalries follows me aroundand then later adapt to the situation
I'm so eager to start playing Bannerlord again. Just gotta wait until the DLC comes out in 202X
Trainer is the only stat that stacks between all companions and player character. If you are running a single companion as a trainer, you are playing the game wrong.
>>719445761for real? this is powerful knowledge if trueI also notice that my medic, when fucked up, was unable to heal and the party reverted to the next highest med skilled lieutenant I suppose having at least 2 docs might be a good idea
>>719427231horse archery gets boring really fast
>Download a Touhou mod>There are giant catfish enemies and nearly invisible enemies>Spell using enemies that launch dozens of icicles/fireballs at once>You can tell which 2hus the creator cares about and which they don't because of the drastic difference in model quality>The 2hus themselves are fast as fuck and have a shit ton of health>They usually have bullshit abilities like reflecting half the damage they take or outright negating damage tooIt's kinda bullshit but in a fun way. They were apparently working on one for Bannerlord too, but I don't know how that's going.
>>719446431Yeah, or three. Companions are largely INT only, so they tend to have a lot of spare points lying around. Everyone ends up specialized in a couple of skills but can also cover for multiple others.
>>719446431By the mid 20s you should be at a point in trainer where every single unit in your party is ready to upgrade again at the end of every day, you're supposed to have endless elite troops going into the late game.
>>719413406Typically go diplomacy with custom troops so my composition is as follows:>Shielded light/medium infantry with multiple bags of throwing weapons>Medium/light Bowmen with powerful two handers and a lot of arrowsand if I so decide,>Heavy cavalry that can tank damage and dish out terrorMy tactics are basically a variation of hilltop:>camp archers at raised point, hold fire>camp infantry either at closest hill or somewhere in front lower than archers, hold fire>have cavalry with me for personal charges and mopup>fire at will for archers until enemy get into range for infantry>fire at will for infantry >have cavalry stop enemy cavalry and do mopup>adjust archers and infantry where required, typically out of the way of each otherThis process repeats every rout where I stop fire until they attack again or until we move into range until victory.
>>719428980Khergit Lancers are the dollar store swadian knights. They're inferior, but way more disposable. I think I've only used horse archers in one of my playthroughs
>>719449889I'm curious how easy it'd be to juggle infantry, archers, melee cavalry and horse archers. Seems like one could do some crazy shit with that combo.
>>719450130Once you've gotten used to the command system, I wager it'd be pretty easy. My main gripe with Warband is that you can't split up units (like Swadian Knights) into two separate groups to give different orders. That would make a lot of opportunities for fun tactics . Especially if you could split your veteran horse archers up and order them to different sides of an enemy unit
>>719450462I think you can get something similar via multinational troops but that just wouldn't be the same thing
>>719403717This thread makes me want to play Pendor, but my stupid chud PC isn't working
>>719437982He was working for an islamic cult funded by CIA which was the deep state (the term was literally invented for them), after he got powerful enough he tried to fuck them over so they tried a coup. After that he arrested pretty much everyone in key positions for being a part of that cult (most weren't) and put his own men in those positions. He was always a dickweed but now he controls literally everything so he's a bigger dickweed
>>719419581Seeing that huge wall of green text scroll up is always so satisfying.
>new addition for butterlord is straight-up a faction from warbandtook them 5 years to do thatimpressive
>>719406749>>719423934YOGoF because if I lose my YOGoF +4 that I paid ninety-gorbillion denars on again I'm going to scream.
>>719451618im more annoyed with how fucking much of the map is just the empirethey could have at least had unit differences for each of the empire factions
>>719419891this game had so much potential, devs fucked it.
>>719419891I remember the dev pulled out a giga-scummy move, said they won't update this game anymore and instead do better version of it with a new game called "Her Story" or something. That new game also got canned.
>>719427654Native Gold Edition is the definitive edition IMO. It has about double the settlements, and you can recruit mercenary and bandit units straight from the guild master. There are also custom(?) merc units that are very op. Plus you can open a brothel, which is objectively better than the businesses in Native
>>719451618I mean, there's also naval combat, ships, storms, new rivers, etc. Not saying I'm impressed by their output in the last years, but I'm looking forward to the expansion
>buy any food that can rot>it rots to the point of inedibility before my men even get half way through the stack
>>719452023weren't all that shit in viking conquest already
>>719452158any food that can rot is not for eating but for selling at a higher price
>>719452320>not rewarding your men for a castle well taken by giving them some fresh porkyou some kind of sarranid?
>>719452390I'm a Swadian, butter does not rot my friend
>>719452259Didn't the ships just automatically park next to each other? I don't remember. It was cool for the time but it doesn't look anything like the naval stuff in Bannerlord
>>719451286oy vey would you call this one the bay of turkeys?
>>719442303>>719451286>runaway cult>bullshit charges to arrest his direct oppression who happens to be a city councilmanI swear this exact thing played out in Worst Korea not even three months ago.
>>719452969both are glowie projects
>>719450462>My main gripe with Warband is that you can't split up units (like Swadian Knights) into two separate groups to give different orders. That would make a lot of opportunities for fun tactics . Especially if you could split your veteran horse archers up and order them to different sides of an enemy unitCan't you do that with custom units? I was doing something similar in Gekokujo with hatamoto and ashigaru musketeers so they don't blow their loads on the opening salvo. Even moreso when you only get 12 rounds per man. You don't want them to be wasting balls trying to headshot a peasant at 200m. 1st Line Gunners, 2nd Line Gunners etc and fire them off in sequence and adjust based on how many hits land on the target.
>>719452320>buy spices from Tulga for purpose of flipping them>the men can't stop putting their hands in the cookie jar despite having a vast selection of wines, rum and three kinds of bread to choose fromCheeky cunts
Kinoband.
>>719454723
Play Napoleonic Wars
>>719420331StarsectorX series
>>719420331>>719420395It's a long stretch but I would suggest Survivalist Invisible Strain with the caveat being that it's a very scaled down version more akin to Kenshi or Rimworld with zambies and half the war crime potential involved. With some adjustments you can play it like a small scale map painter or squad based RTS. You can set up engagement zones that the AI will patrol around or wait for an ambush. With the right mods you can turn off infinite ammo and watch the two sides slaughter each other with bioweapons in the form of infected hatchets, spears and bodkin arrows. If you don't mind playing resident psychologist or a bastard warlord you can pretty much jack up a refugee on mushroom vodka and throw him in front an AK. Armed with nothing but a spiked wooden club, helmet and a chest piece made from the shredded boots of your enemies.
>>719437982Implessive, from indie project to a literal state owned enterprise lol
>>719456870i'd argue it's not much of an accomplishment considering that any product to reach a sizeable international audience will receive funding gov funding in most 3rd world countries
>>719456870Blizzard is in the same boat when you consider how many ex glowies were running around stealing breastmilk up there before they started making complete asses of themselves. Warband to Turkey is what GTA is to Scotland at this point. You'd be an idiot not to take advantage of that.
>>719403717>super clunky combat>ai is hilariously bad>absolutely hideous models and graphics that look dated on the ps2>"diplomacy" is an afterthought>"exploring" cities and castles are awfulhas this game actually improved now?
>>719458724it doesn't need to be improved, you just got filthered by it, hard.
>>719458869it's barebones as fuck
>>719458909Filthered.
Play Perisno.
>>719460686maybe if stops crashing
>>719434545I feel like Lezalit, Artimenner and Jeremus are must-haves. They simply have too useful skills to pass on while you can focus on combat capabilities.Borcha is nice to have with pathfinding and tracking, and then maybe take in Marnid or someone else on Level 1 to make them into trading experts.Bunduk is a feral nigger who starts fights with literally everyone
>thread is still upStop it /v/ I'm not going to start another new campaign.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMw5ACCh3oE
>>719445761doesn't the same go for first aid, surgery, trade and pathfinding/spotting?
>>719446431That anon is right, having multiple high level companions with the Trainer skill will supercharge your training rates. Mid to late game you will need to train lots of troops for garrisons and such, it's indispensable.If you're in for a tough fight put your medics right at the bottom of the battle order, they're less likely to spawn so you'll get the benefit of their surgery skill throughout the battle and be around to heal afterwards - you heal faster resting in towns if you didn't know that already.
>>719403717The point where you have 30-40 men is the nadir of Mount and Blade (still haven't played butterlord so don't know about that). You're too slow for smaller groups and can't challenge anything you can catch. Your best bet is to look for forest bandits and pray you don't lose too many guys in even fights.
>>719464624Army sizes are about the same in butterlord. 40isnt big enough to do anything but to get clapped in wars.
Is Bannerlord really as bad as everyone says?
I successfully chamber blocked a lance with my fists!Fuck the tournament for giving me a bow and pitting me against a lance.
>>719410386Aut caesar aut nihil is very engaging with fun storyquests. Perisno is also fun but its redundant with archer spamWorld of Vasnar and Struggle for Illiac Bay are fun and with actual magic mechanic.
>>719405560I modded PoP so that X recruit(like sarleon) evolves into lets say a heretic follower, an inquisition troop etc.Lets me roleplay as a different faction, did a few campaigns where I cosplayed as the inquisition and genocided the sand people
It has been 2 decades and there hadn't a good QoL and fief managements mod? Nova Aetas and ACA are great but i still they are still lacking
>>719403717stop being an incel and play the superior bannerlord, once warsails comes out warband will be relegated to the dustbin of history where it belongs
>>719465190Install a mod that lets you pick your tournament gear
>>719403717Whatever happened to PoP and Perisno teams? Weren't they gonna release PoP and Perisno for Bannerlord?
>>719466170iirc Perisno devs on discord said they are waiting for Warsail to drop first butvit isn't a guarantee that they will do it right away.
>Get paid 1000x the cities total yearly income for giving a mafia boss an extremely unproportional, completely useless two handed hammer that happens to have a Tier 4 Gripbest game
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Is there still a purpose for money in bannerlordSmithing is essentially infinite dosh
>>719424160WHAT THE FUCK I DIDNT KNOW YOU COULD GIVE COMMANDS TO YOUR ALLIES IN TOURNAMENTS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>719467228you can buy entire cities with high enough trade skillbut even getting there required me to do bizarre little caravans myself.
FLORIS
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>>719464962no
it's crazy how much better bannerlord is compared to warbandwhen i think about it the only thing warband has over bannerlord are feasts, any other thing i want in bannerlord is not from warband1 - naval combat, transport, port cities and so on are not present in warband, they're from viking conquest, and we're getting them with war sails2 - joining an army as a simple soldier (and not joining a nation as a mercenary army) is from fire and steel and can't be done in vanilla warband eitherwarband is simply garbage, total trash
>>719468172>finally accept that Floris is mostly bloat>really like the tournament rework mod that it uses
>>719468735eeh, its not just feasts. warband just straight up has more interactions with other lords. getting a good relationship with them is more important and takes much more time and effort, then you have fun interactions like duelling a guy over a woman and him becoming your game-long arch nemesis afterwards personally I think the only thing bannerlord truly needs is to seriously jack up influence cost for bring other clans into your army to the point where it is prohibitively expensive, then re balance clan refashions so you actually have to work on your relationships with other lords, and it is also rewarding. this would honestly help the overall balance of the game as well, since it would keep you from snowballing so hard the moment you get enough influence to get an army going also add feasts to facilitate your relationships of course, and add some spontaneous things like rival clans in your faction
>>719468735>2 - joining an army as a simple soldier (and not joining a nation as a mercenary army) is from fire and steel and can't be done in vanilla warband eitherNova Aetas and Gekokujo were the ones that did this right. The former let you buy four different kinds of property to store your shit in outside of fiefs. Not to mention the lightweight provisions since you only need one stack of bread and dried meats to keep you going on campaign. And the religion system that has a tangible effect on the world depending on which pantheon and dogma you follow. If only it wasn't buggy as shit. Meanwhile with Gekokujo it actually becomes a viable thing to serve under a major lord to work your way up. Providing he doesn't go full retard on every 3 - 1 skirmish because muh honor.
>>719469016*jack up the influence cost when you have low relations I should say
Bannerlordchuds... have we finally won?>>719468735
>>719467962I also just learned that trainer stacksIve been playing this game on ultra hard mode and didn't even realize it
>>719404681they dont get it anon dont worry i do, sieges are fucking garbage its still the same fucking oh you attacking this fuck off huge city in the middle of an plain, yes that will be the same gate you have attacked 20 times already sire it seems the city only has these walls and this one gate so were being polite and only atack from this side
>>719403717I don't join any factions because I'm not a pussy. I just make an army of 60 top tier men and pillage and steal from other kingdoms, then I make my own kingdom and dominate the continent.And, of course, I do this all while not choosing to be from a family of nobles because I want the crybaby kings to be mad at me and my 5 non-noble lords.
>>719469078oh yes religion was an interesting addition, but again, not present in warbandmost of the things people miss from warband are not from warband but from mods
>>719410282get with the times boomer
>start Butterlord>main quest is to find out about some battle>every lord says "I dunno man just ask my faction leader"nigger does the game really want me to run to every faction leader right at the start
>>719471084You've got hundreds of days to talk to 8 dudes.
>>719471214Why make it the very first main quest then? By that point I'll be a god among men
>>719405560Is doing your own knighthood order in this still so slow that you will conquer the entire map long before they become useful?
>>719405225Nah I'd always get to a point where I could batter anyone in the game but actually keeping them down was so tedious I'd give up. Think it was pendor I was playing last time.The other lords are fucking bullshit artists, you absolutely obliterate their stacked armies and then minutes later they've somehow amassed another epic doom blob before you can even hope to resupply your own forces and the whole game slows to a crawl and an epic war of attrition.I got much closer in native expansion with the dark knights enabled but that's because the dark knights turned up and fucking whooped everyone and then I just went after them. Fuck I kinda wanna play it now actually. Bannerlord was such a let down.
>>719471084>Butterlordfunny that you insult bannerlord by using the butter meme that originated in warband because of warband's inferior economy systemwarband babies never change
>>719472130they have settings now to tweak how fast you want your order set up
>>719466039Have they fixed the pre-battle preparations / units management?Because last time I played they broke it purposefully and insulted the guy who asked them to revert it on their forum.
>>719460686There's a Chaos Warrior in your army
>>719462535Sad that Perisno is one of the most stable mods on Warband as well, and even considering that it still crashes fucking constantly.Anyway, what's everyone's hopes for War Sails?
>>719460686what the fuck is this garbage? it looks like complete shit. is this a classic contrarianism 4chan moment?
>>719474758>insultIt's a meme, you dip. Stop making up imaginary wars between fans of a series' entries. They're all good.
> See this thread> Get the itch to play Bannerlord again> Check my mods list (its not even that big, maybe like 10 mods)> Realise that most of the mods haven't been updated in over a year> Give up hopeDamn, maybe I'll just do a vanilla run before I get bored, then wait for Warsail for a modded playthroughSo sad that the game ended up like this, though I guess I could just play warband instead
>>719443889>warlord gameI like this, neat.
>>719465190Aren't these the easiest fights ever? Stand with your back to the wall, sidestep the lance, watch the enemy run into the wall and get stuck, pull out your knife, hack away while the enemy desperately tries to hit you with his slow lance, which does 0 damage if it even hits.
Make sure you play on WSE2 if you want the best experience. Everything runs so smooth and quick
>>719476336butts
>>719466170problem with modding bannerlord is it constantly gets updates that kill every single mod and the modder scene isnt as autistic as skyrims to keep updating thema lot of people just play really old versions of the game so all their shit works
>bannerlord>delegate command to my elite t5 archers>they charge into meleei blame my 0 tactics but i dont feel like losing half my armies to auto resolves to level it up
>>719463674warband is /v/core
bannerlords soundtrack is pretty lacklusterthis enhances the game experience greatly
i never did a long khergit run, horse archers get boring very fast
>>719481514shame it doesnt fix the skill system, lord interactions, and the influence garbage. literally unplayable
>>719405225yes, it took a lot of grinding but eventually I controlled the entire map with my own faction
>>719481514I know of one part of Warband that doesn't need enhancing of its absolutely fire soundtrack
>>719481697after playing my latest M2TW campaign and becoming obsessed with them I can tell you mounted crossbowmen that can handle themselves in melee never get boring had to go make my own custom ones in Warband and they are a blast
how fucking hard is an athleticism character to start if i refuse to cheese good armor using my horse early
>>719482530atlhetic skill is useless, it only makes your guy runs a bit faster and can faster reload time I think. I really never leved that shitty skill point ever.
>>719482615horses are not to be trusted
>>719482717The best warhorse in warband requires like lvl 2 athletic skill
>>719410386Paradigm Worlds.never really liked Prophesy of Pendor liked perisno way way more
>>719482782i guess i was thinking of bannerlord where riding and athleticism level like weaponskilldoing a hideout with 0 athletics is suffering
>>719482896I really hate how redditified bannerlord skill system
>>719471084The first time I finished that portion of the quest by just playing normally and talking to the guys with exclamation mark when crossing paths with them, I never actually went out looking for any them.
>>719483246yea i mean most lords for each faction are generally in a deathball army wandering around so your bound to finish the quest pretty easy
>>719425051>WFaSPeople shit on this game but I thought it was amazing
>>719483565I modded it so bomb ammo replenishes between battles like all other ammo, and just exploded entire groups of enemies
>>719484940when the multiplayer was active it was literally just naked dudes throwing bombs at each other
>>719485046we play The deluge mod now it's basically the samet. naked bomb thrower
>>719424112Yeah, you can beat it, but the late game becomes an absolute chore
