Why does it cause autism?
>>719406208The Sonic franchise doesn't create autism, it attracts it. Sonic characters are easy to draw and create from scratch, and the fact that the setting is so inconsistent makes it easy to justify whatever fanfic bullshit you can imagine.
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>>719406464the same things could be said for mario but we don't see the same kind of autistic community proportional to that brand. it's clear that sonic is causing autism, not merely attracting it
Why can't Sega loosen up and let Sonic have enough emotional depth to push this button like the movie Sonic did?
>>719407194because that's gay. sonic is about running fast and eating chili dogs
It doesn't, it's just a common fixation for autistic people.I would guess it's the color coding organization of characters and straight-forward friendship structure. It's also easy to self-insert into their world, which can be something autistic kids do.
>>719406820see >>719407272sonic asks you to take it seriously. you ARE a big kid, right?without mario to bounce off of, sonic would have no legs to stand on.
>>719406208Is this still true? I feel like a lot of the infamous Sonic autism has dissipated in the past decade or so. Or was it that more loathsome freaks have emerged since then that make Sonicfags look more normal?
>>719406208Is it really Sonic fanaticism that causes autism, or is it not rather autism that causes Sonic fanaticism?
>>719406208I'm finishing up my mod list for Sonic Adventure 2, which I am about to play for the first time. Will report back on autism status after my first session.
>>719407272Anger and desire to personally right a wrong through violence is relatable and demonstrates that a character has more thoughts than just saving the day.
>>719407583lots of them are addicted to fads and moved on to undertale, fnaf, skoopidy boopity and shibbly dibblogorp incorporated.
>>719406820Autism isn't "caused" by anything. It's just a neurotype people are born with. Some mask it, some don't. Less do these days because masking is discouraged by mental health bodies.It attracts kids with autism because its general structure works well with their way of thinking. Another one that is similar is Thomas the Tank Engine, commonly liked by younger autistic kids, but it is similar. You have color coding (Thomas is blue, James is Red etc), everyone are friends or friendly rivals at best, there is a clear hero character that the kid can be "best friends" with etc.
>>719406208Because Sonic is the uncool kind of cool.If you grow up aspiring to be like Sonic you're gonna end up as an unrelatable weirdo.Sonic isn't actually cool to anyone who knows what cool is, so the only people who congregate around him are people who don't know what cool is and base their image of coolness around him.
>>719406820You think there aren't Mario autists?>t. Mario autist
I think Sonic's environments were to blame. They are way more detailed and attractive than Mario's empty and mostly simplistic pastel backgrounds. Naturally to normal casual viewer these backgrounds are just cool, but to a young autistic mind you look at these kind of sweeping futuristic metropolises and wonder who lives there, what happens there, how many more stories are happening out in that world. It's an open book for autists. It's why their OC Spike the Hedgehog might live in one of the background worlds of a Sonic level or some such. And seemingly Sega themselves knew this which is why the games got increasingly lore and story heavy.
>>719407583It is dissipating and I believe it's because it was the Adventure and PS2-era of Sonic that was attracting all the autists. Sonic started dipping more into shounen tropes which created a huge overlap with a lot of other autist attracting fanbases. I think Kingdom Hearts was a huge contributor to this, as it was a crossover series of normally goofy cartoon mascots involved in edgy shounen plots. Sonic was almost there, so I think it led a desire by fans to start creating fan works which went all the way with the concept.
>>719407832Did you install the Chao Garden Extended mod? Did you install any lewd mods for Rouge?
>went to see a psychiatric NP to discuss depression symptoms and potential medicinal remedies>while there she assess me as "not autistic", meaning I can enjoy Sonic without having to cop to learning disabilityWhile some autistic qualities were observed in her analysis she said it's not enough to meet the criteria for being on the actual spectrum and said it's more likely they're idiosyncrasies connected to the ADHD I got diagnosed with decades ago.
>>719406820>the same things could be said for mario but we don't see the same kind of autistic community proportional to that brand.Oh brother you have no idea...
>>719408417I'm on the other end of the borderline, enough to be diagnosed as Level 1 Autizmo but not really. Like being 1 mark off a grade.I kind of wish I didn't bother really. It was just an expensive confirmation on what I've already known for 20 years. If I can deal with burnout and childhood anxiety, I can be normal. It's up to me to get my shit together, not a diagnosis.
>gigantic heads means gigantic facial expressions; retards have trouble reading these but when they are so big and cartoonish that they can understand their feelings>retards like pastel colors>creating a Sonic OC is the second easiest thing ever after creating MLP OCs since all you have to do is choose a head, a color and a nameThat's literally it. The Sanic Universe doesn't cause autism per se, but it's a vortex of retaradation that sucks retards in and causes them to switch from whatever their hyperfixation was to Sanic. So a autistic man whose hyperfixation was planes who could've actually discovered something that would improve the entire world's aeronautic industry to improve will instead find Sanic and his contribution to society will be creating Sanic/Airplane hybrid OCs and fapping to them, also sucking other plane retards to join him in his retarded fetish.
>>719408835#Upvote
>>719408417I feel like I'm probably in a similar boat due to hyperfixation shit and social avoidance. Doesn't help that I wound up as a furfaggot. I've managed to make it this far without knowing either way, I'd rather not have a certificate of it.
>>719406820mario characters are not easy to draw
>>719406464>The Sonic franchise doesn't create autism, it attracts it.agreed, but my take on why it attracts autists it's different
>>719408982We're not retarded anon.We can also read facial expressions, and all the rest fine. It's literally just that we think about shit differently, and it can cause a divide between ours and your world on the social front, mostly because we both perceive it as antagonistic and/or personal.Autistic people and Neurotypical people can and do get along, but pretending we are experts on each other isn't really helpful for anyone, nor is name-calling.
>>719407583The Sonic fanbase is still as terrible and autistic as ever, except now their fetish is transgenderism. Really you can tell if a fanbase is cancer just by the amount of trannies in it.
>>719409731No. Maybe on some cases, but problems reading facial expressions apropiately in context, problems generating a correct idea of what the other person is thinking or feeling, is a core main symptom of autism and has been throughout every revision the diagnosis has had. Its crieria A on the DSM.Autism is not retardation, its not an inteligence problem, its a different way of processing information that has a big impact on social interactions. ToM deficits are a big part of those social problems.
He cute.I don't really follow all sonic media and haven't touched any of his games after 06. But I am fascinated with the idea of what a perfect 3D Sonic game would be like. There are many interpretations which make it interesting. People claim that many 2D games "don't work" in 3D but I think they are wrong. I think 3D Sonic can be better than 2D. It just hasn't been done yet. We've seen glimpses with Adventure games but it's only been downhill since. When someone does solve it, they'll make a million dollars.I feel this way about other franchises too like Pokemon. Lately games like Sonic Frontiers and Legends Arceus have perked my interest a bit but seems like these companies still don't fully get it or are just lazy. Probably both.Also they really have to get rid of this current Sonic model they have been using the past 6 games or so because it is ugly. They need to slightly chibify him again and use a more stylish toon shader or something.
>>719406208Unironically it didn't until tendies got ahold of SA2B.
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>>719406820Sonic is Mario but cool so it lends itself more easily to people who want to do more serious stuff with the characters but don't like anything that actually has serious designs.
>>719406208Demonic ritual
>>719406208it doesn't "cause" autismit ATTRACTS autism.
>>719407194Sonic does have emotional depth but it's understated because he's a generally mature character, though this was thrown out by Colors to make him a dudebro who tells dad jokes.
>>719408026no idea what you've wrote im just looking at the pic and okay that is quite the feat.I can't be easy to take a picture like this
>>719410730The main problem people have here is the introduction of this regent "Level 1 autism" shit grouping everything. It encompasses what was Asperger's, but it also puts the many borderline people who probably aren't fully autistic too.
>>719406820there are as many if not more mario autists but you don't hear about them becauseA->they get buried under all the normalfags mario naturally getsand B->somethingawful troons and game journos didn't make mario into a popular punching bag in the 2000s
>>719407835Right and wrong are social constructs.
>>719406820Mario doesn't attract autism because it's less of a power fantasy. Sonic's always cool under pressure, teleports behind you style quips and shit eating grin, that's every angsty teens' dream of being effortlessly powerful.
>>719407583I think it only got really bad during the mid-2000's since the games were losing a lot of fans and the only ones left were the autists. With the franchise getting more popular it made the autists less significant.
>>719410876I think the biggest issue with modern Sonic is how they pretty much dropped the pinball physics concept. 2D Sonic was fun because the physics worked really well with the platforming. You could spin-dash and jump off a slope to launch yourself way higher and further than a running jump. The levels had tons of different routes and were designed with the player using speed and physics as a tool to change routes. Modern Sonic lacks the pinball physics so the player is restricted to doing normal jumps. All the launching is done on-script through boosters and springs which means speed is no longer a platforming tool. Then there's the Subway Surfers sections. My guess is it's considered too hard and expensive to design levels that are large and varied enough to make full use of pinball physics, so they gutted the pinball physics.
>>719409731Autists literally cannot read facial expressions, iirc it's in part because they completely lack empathy.
>>719408254>Chao Garden Extended modIt looks tempting but I'll see what the original is about first>lewd mods for RougeEven more tempting. I might give her bigger booba later on
It's probably worth noting too that while all the blue-haired fat men that call them Sonic fans quoting the games in everyday life and pretend the storylines are real are likely all autistic, but they don't represent autism. That's the least of their problems.
>>719411226I think Sega realized they were being ridiculed for Shadow the Hedgehog and started doubling back on the edgy stuff hard in an attempt to save embarrassment.
>>719411893Both common misconceptions.You don't think we do, but we absolutely do have empathy.
>>719411980Chao Garden Extended only adds content on top so I think it's worth getting in any case. Especially since it restores a lot of content that got lost due to the ports lacking the VMU and/or GCN save file connectivity.
>>719407583a combination of all of the above>>719411893just research more
>>719411843Or you know, the far more likely scenario that a fully 3D pinball game might be too unwiedly for the 5 year olds the series is made for?As a kid I had a hard enough time wrapping my head around the 2D games, let alone an hypothetical 3D one.
>>719406208>Sonic The Hedgehog was better than >Mario and it wasn't close>Dragon Ball Z was my favorite cartoon/anime and it wasn't close>Michael Jackson was my favorite musical entertainer, and it wasn't close>SEGA was better than Nintendo (and Sony and Microsoft) and it wasn't close>Kung Pow, Kill Bill and BOTH Mortal Kombat movies are some of my favorite moviesThese were the top things for me things for me growing up and I still feel that way today. Mario didn't really factor in until Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64. I never really cared for Mario that much after this or his spinoffs other than Mario Galaxy, Galaxy 2, and Mario Kart DS. In general I always preferred SEGA, SEGA IP, and the SEGA feel and energy more than Nintendo. What does this say about me?
>>719412509Forgot to add Sonic 3 (without Knuckles) is my favorite Classic Genesis Sonic game.
>>719411843>pinball physics... too hard...Pretty sure lots of baby's first Unity projects is a rolling marble. Could just add a mode where you switch between ball and running. Maybe I'm oversimplifying but it shouldn't be THAT difficult.
Sex with Amy rosePinball physicsGambling references (cool)Eggman (the most based antagonist of all creation)Great music in every game Hot chick heavenKnuckles is coolI could go on
>>719412501I wouldn't call it the more likely scenario since getting the physics right alongside the level design takes money and Sonic has been on a tight budget lease for a long time, plus they really wanted to focus on speed as their big hook. Even Frontiers, their big break into open world design couldn't get away from being based around the boom physics.There's mods for Adventure that take away some of the restrictions in the physics and it's pretty fun without it being overwhelming. The boom design is just easier to design around. Basically a race track that lets you jump.
>>719412102>>719412458You think you do, but you don't.
>>719414006Well you're the neurotypical who literally knows better obviously ;)
Dr. Philip Autism tested a bunch of low functioning babies with oxygen deprivation in 1976 and I read his book I know all about autism.
>>719412374I see. I'll add now before I forget, thanks anon!
>>719411402What you feel is personally wronging you is something only you can decide for yourself and the response you give to it.
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>>719406464>easy to drawHaha yeah...
>good thing is...LE AUTISTIC
>>719412509>BOTH Mortal Kombat movies >What does this say about me?That you're retarded but not autistic.
>>719416136>good thing
>>719406820Lie perpetrated by the internet since like the 2010s. I don't understand why people spew this shit all this time later. Every single pop culture thing has a weird section of weirdo autistic fans, bu the internet as whole decided to hyperfixate on Sonic for some reason.
>>719407194The other characters exist for that. Sonic is a static character and I don't see why that's an issue.
