>TL;DR: Collective Shout's campaign led payment processors Visa and Mastercard to pressure Steam into removing adult games depicting sexual violence against women, highlighting ethical concerns over glorifying abuse. This shift enforces stricter content policies, aiming to protect women from harmful media while sparking debate on censorship and platform responsibility.https://archive.is/5W82I
>>719412209It's true. Any desire for evil is evil - it doesn't matter if it's taking pleasure in the though of evil, or carrying it out.ALL evil must be removed from our world.
>>719412209>'Steam's Sexual Violence Game Defenders Are Abusers in Real Life So if someone plays GTAV are they mass murderer's IRL? This is so stupid.
>>719412209These old hags have no problem with dark fantasy romance novels depicting rape
>>719412503Do you believe it's acceptable to do evil to remove evil from the world?
Either all art is acceptable, or none of it is.
>>719412209>Corpos should be allowed to ban legal content and you're a rapist IRL if you disagree
>>719412209>host illegal contentBut it's not.Freedom of expression is a human right.Also sounds like baseless defamatory accusations that are actually illegal.
>>719412209Last time I checked people had a right to do whatever the fuck they wanted in their mindThis is literal thought crime, these people think that insulting them or looking at sexy women is actual violence
>>719412209These people literally oppose freedom of speech and are inherently against western values.
>>719412209>Steam's Sexual Violence Game Defenders Are Abusers in Real LifeLmao. They're beta males much too weak physically but most importantly mentally to hurt anyone. And that's literally and exactly what makes then want to play games like that, to vent their frustration caused by their weakness and impotence.
will people listen to and give me money if I just started claiming all kinds of outlandish shit with no evidence?
>>719412209I'll defend your ability to buy those games endlessly. >I've had women in my house that asked for me to choke them>I've had women ask me for CNC>They asked for myriads of other abusive/semi abusive things.>Most of them came from fucked up situations or an abusive Ex>I tried, but had zero actual interest in it and told them i wasn't interested.Its a power thing, I'm apparently not an abuser in real life though.
>>719412209>Extreme violenceSo this basically means shit like Mortal Kombat, Fighting games or even Smash Bros wouldn't be allowed unless they remove all women from the games?I kinda get the rape thing because it's a sexual thing and they should be on a +18 platform or very restricted from children or people who don't want to see that, but the violence thing is dumb because this not only affects games, it also affects movies and other visual media.
>>719412209https://xcancel.com/useful_emetic/status/1960354822864904583#mNever take anything women say about sexual morality or ethics seriously.
Same group thinks there's nothing wrong with Cuties, a movie featuring actual prepubescent girls exposing themselves and doing sexually provocative things, so these whores are full of shit by default. They're just a very loud and convenient scapegoat for the usual suspects to make further pushes into controlling the Internet and the entertainment industry.
>>719414902>+18 platform or very restricted from children or people who don't want to see thatYou explictly have to change your steam settings to see porn gamesIts not something a child could casually do. And even if they did, that would be the parents fault. Maybe try not giving your child unsupervised access?
>>719414902If they were consistent in trying to push for enforcement, the fucking Bible would be getting banned from sale for depicting incest and relationships with girls under 17 years and 364 days of age (but realistically most people who try to follow the teachings of the Bible don't even know what's inside it).They know they wouldn't get any real leverage, so they attack fringes that normalfags wouldn't dare to defend to see how far they can push the envelope.
>>719412209>women boobs/asses are sexual violence against women>but pic related is alrightnuke North America
>>719412209Why do they even bother giving interviews if they are just going to ignore or handwave any of the valid criticisms people have of them? They're just regurgitating the same points over and over. Its not like they're changing anyone's minds. >>719412660That's not actually true. Just look at this part of their website:https://www.collectiveshout.org/fifty_shades_of_greyTheir whole shtick regarding violent woman's "romance" is that women only like it because of an elaborate psyop by men to perpetuate sexual violence, so it should be banned all the same.
>>719412209Project 2025 coming along nicely I see
I agree with the hags. 90% of games involve simulated murder and killing. It is an evil hobby.
>>719416524>Women are gooners... BECAUSE MEN TRICKED THEM TO BE!!!That's some weird mental gymnastics.
>>719416524>Why do they even bother giving interviews if they are just going to ignore or handwave any of the valid criticisms people have of them?So their enemies notice, get mad, say stupid shit, and then they can claim being victims.
If im a life long perma virgin that never has and never will meaningfully interact with women, can I have the games back?
>>719416628t.Russel Vought
>>719412209>men aren't getting jobs and raising families anymore!! they're just sitting around and playing video games!!>but those same men are sexual abusers who make time outside of being losers to hurt children and women!!can't have it both ways. stick to one line of rhetoric will ya?
>>719414704You have my support!
>>719416787NOOOOOOO!!!!YOU'RE GONNA... PIN WOMEN DOWN... BREED THEM... FILL THEM WITH YOUR DISGUSTING INCEL SEED...AND CHOKE THEM WHILE YOU DO IT! YOU SICK FUCK!!!!!
>>719416628>90% of games involve simulated murder and killing. It is an evil hobby.Let's remove the outlet then! Now they'll be forced to act on their violent urges out in society™Fucking genius.
>>719416787Nope. Project 2025 says enjoying things is evil.
>>719417082But... Mr President has been soft-confirmed to be a child fucker. So if he can do all that fucked shit up in real world, then why can't I do fucked up shit in the virtual world?Huh?
>>719412503Abuse is not evil it is in fact one of the greatest goods that can be inflicted on another. Abuse tests the human spirit and forces it to either shine or tarnish showing the world the worth of the individual. A soul that merely accepts abuse and does not act to prevent it is less than an animals. The only evil comes from those that want to see humanity rot from being left untested.
>>719414704Are you hot?
>>719417206The pres and his admin arent' part of the same team. Theyr'e vultures
>>719417489women don't need to be hot to be listened to, see how we've been dragged into this mess against our will by vindictive harpies yet again.
And now here come the "FEEL BAD FOR NOT VOTING FOR PAJEETA CUMSOCK AND INFINITY NIGGERFAGGOT GIBS" retards, so I'll just post the reminder of what Democrat policies have done to Japanese games. Sorry buds, you blew it and alienated everyone who would have been on board with you for this, and they're not just going to forget. No one wants you back. I'd sooner put my hopes in Republicans backtracking after enough pressure than for you guys to fix anything.
>>719417206Russell Vought of Project 2025 funded Collective Shout, and is very open in their Project 2025 outline a desire to ban pornagraphy
>>719414704That's 95% of e-grifters
This happened under Biden. Why didn't he stop it? Why didn't he do anything? Oh right, it's the same Biden that signed off on fucking KOSA. Why am I being expected to support them again just because this is happening?
You get what you voted for retards lmao
>>719416490Collective Shout are from Australia, and CDPR are Polish. Stay obsessed.
>>719417919nta but p2025 is American, and they funded Collective Shout
>>719412209>complaining about censorship means I'm literally raping these women through the screenDoes that mean I'm no longer a virgin?
>>719417867Then that means you voted for >>719417829 and Pixiv/Fanbox and Melonbooks and co. getting raped too. All that happened under Biden.Shut up, you're in this same boat, you have no right to talk.
>>719418059no you're still a virgin incel but also a rapist
>>719417994I'm pointing out the fixation on NA above all else when Australia and other Western countries are routinely just as bad if not worse about censorship. At least the collective mindset in the US is still one of anti-censorship, despite what the politicians continue to push for. Not that I have any hope that we won't all be locked down eventually.
>>719418114>left/right distractionIt's currently project 2025. Under different circumstances, it could been on the other side of the spectrum.The sooner you people stop excusing shit happening because it's "your team" doing it at that specific moment, the sooner you can start recognizing the common enemy doing it
>>719418295>the collective mindset in the US is still one of anti-censorshipNot anymore. 40% of states are censoring hard at the moment, following the p2025 planI'm not as doomer as others, I'm betting on it swinging back to reasonability, but censorship from both sides is incredibly popular at the moment as the nation gets more and more authoritarian and less libertarian (used to be both sides would agree on government limiting, but enough propaganda has pushed people out of that mindset)
>>719412209Vidya has no influence on real life, this has been proven. Remember these karens are defending a movie that was made via actual exploitation of children while raging over some pixels instead, they're also very quiet about the Roblox situation as well. Let that sink in.
>>719412209I genuinely hope this goes through just so it makes even just one of you seethe
>>719412209I just wish these raggedy cunts would be consistent.>violence against women yadda yadda yaddaFine. Make them ban every single game that allows you to so much as punch a woman.EVERYSINGLEFUCKINGGAMEWhy stop at the creepy incel porn games when that's not what you're arguing about? Come on you fucking cunts, finish your goal. Save women.
>Republicans are making it harder for anime fan in texas with their new law >Payment Processors and Collective Shout are religious freaks pressing censorship onto JP media >Cheeto is making it harder for us to import merch from japan thanks to his dogshit tariffs Republican party are way worse for the hobby than democrats
>>719416580>trannies still believe in this fairy tale
>>719418527>Fine. Make them ban every single game that allows you to so much as punch a woman.Lol, absolute retard, they already said they want to fuck over GTA and Detroit Become Human, they will try to fuck over everyone
>>719412209Are the credit card comapnies still getting calls?
>>719418596Americans are literal masochists anon, ffs they get their dick mutilated at birth and defend it, you think they care about themselves?
>>719412209Cool, let them ban all negative depictions of anything, not like we use it for Drama or to tell a story or anything, just get rid of anything that could possibly make someone upset.
>>719412209>whines about sexualized videogame characters>defends Cuties, a movie with real 11 year olds dancing sexuallyThe people whining the loudest about anime and videogames tend to be evil criminals in real life.
>>719412564According to them, yes. They did campaign to get GTA (and Detroit: Become Human) canceled.
>>719418738kek, true
>>719412209Remember when eveyone was calling Master Card claiking they'd break any day and they just gave up?
>>719418660>Tech good>Tech badWhere's "Tech in the hands of normies is bad" go?
>>719418637Fell for it again award :)
>>719418596Yeah that's not a fucking surprise, been that way since jack thompson and it never changed. Theyve always been the worst.
>>719418738>everyone in america is a jew and mutilates their dickno?
>>719418816Right there in Tech Bad
>>719412209reminder that collective shout are unironic pedophiles
>>719418596>Republican party are way worse for the hobby than democrats...at this moment.But it's been the opposite in the past (and back to as it is currently as well).The point is to not excuse it whoever it's coming from. Tribalism leads all sorts of people to excuse shit they normally wouldn't.
>>719418878Just 90% of them, no biggie
>>719418660>they will try to fuck over everyoneGood. I hope they succeed and crash vidya into the fucking ground.
>719418637>tranny tries to pretend it doesn't existtrying to distract from its existence still isn't working
>>719418878That's the worst part, most of them are not even jewish and still cut their dicks, lel, literal tranny training wheels
>>719414731>I've had women ask me for CNCNice to see women interested in metal works.
>>719418878man, if any post were to help prove how many foreigners and bots are pretending to be American on this site...the vast majority of Americans are circumcised. very few of them are jewish. it's to the point when you directly call Americans out on it, they get all kinds of defensive on why it's "medically necessary" and all kinds of shit.
>>719418934>funded by p2025>who currently work under a pedo presidentthat kind of checks out, honestly
>>719418994Only if you're a white millennial. It hasn't even been above 50% in a decade for whites and is way lower for every other group.
>Give women rights>Civilization gets worse for literally everyone involved because older women get jealous of younger womenWhy does this KEEP happening?
>>719419116they are christian, so a sub-type of jew or at least a jewish golem
>>719419259>Jej, only half of mutts get the jewish brand nowIt must be the biggest american achievement since giving negros the right to vote
>>719417591>>719417829funny how the subhuman gcjtards never mention that
>>719419429Americans genuinely believe that jewish puppets care about them, lmao, no wonder half of them literally can't read
>>719419429>distraction! deedle diddle dee DISTRACTIONStop noticing this happens everywhere and is currently happening due to project 2025, get back in your tribes! Fight each other reeeee
>>719418519upset gay nigger behavior.
>>719414704You're dreaming too small anon, you could even get elected president doing just that
>>719412503Agreed, let's begin with trannies, faggots and other subhumans
>>719420398Don't forget the tankies, subhumans each and everyone
>>719416654Well, nature was apparently made by males to subdue the female. Or at least that's what SJWs think,so nature must be destroyed ("deconstructed") and replaced by an artificial world of total social justice ("progress!") and a lazy, comfortable life for themselves, the enlightened leaders.Socialists have been trying that over and over again for the last few centuries and have failed spectacularly each and every time.If you want to eliminate the individual you've got no choice, but to eliminate the male, but then no one is left alive within a single generation.They have already come a long way towards that, considering the absolute sissies walking the streets of the Western world these days. It's no surprise, birthrates are imploding accordingly.Those "men" won't take no responsibility anymore, because they are closer to a girl than to a boy. That's the ultimate goal of the public education systems and the media in the Western world of today.Making a problem of completely normal, natural behavior that hurts absolutely no one involved - except for the feminist that dies alone -, is nothing but madness.
>>719418307Cool, what's your solution then? If it's "vote Democrat" after everything I've had to put up with as an enjoyer of Japanese games and anime under policies supported and funded by them, we're done here.>>719418596>#MeToo causing Sony and others to push anti-fanservice policies GLOBALLY>Payment processors have been doing the same routine for a decade or more>ESG/DEI and USAID pozzing countries through financial pressure directlyAll of these were staunchly supported by Democrats and libs. The vote for Trump was in part as a rejection of them. The Japanese game industry as a whole started really going to shit during Biden's term.
total govcorpo ruletotal goycattle enslavementepstein list status?
Give them an inch..It'll be sex in any form next, then warcrimes, then violence with guns, drug use, hurting others in general.
>>719420728>what's your solution then?None, you have no power and you're a pussy
>>719420728>If it's "vote Democrat"the fact that this is your first thought from their post shows just how addicted to the tribe you are
>>719420728For starters, maybe stop defending it when it happens to be happening from a side you likeCrazy I know
>>719421290Give an example of the side they must unequivocally support because of liberal retard mentality "if you aren't with us you're against us" which in itself is a very compelling argument to handle the tribal mentality with a "Okay, fuck you I'm against you then."The 60s and 70s called they want they evangelist radicals back.
>>719420994Satanic Panic back in the day.Tiny resurgence (but not nearly with the influence) when Harry Potter was gaining popularity, with number of churches claiming the books and movies were bringing kids into the demonic (luckily this one didn't take hold outside of the extremely old).Harry Potter is an especially funny one, because controvery over that is a pretty specific example of Horseshoe Theory as the sides angry about it largely flipped. It isn't typically a specific property where that manifests like that
>>719421576nta but you fucking dumbass, you're not supposed to support "a side". you're supposed to support ideals and values, and push for those (not flip flopping depending on who it is)People used to distrust politicians as a whole
>>719420728The Japanese video game industry did just fine, and has been healthier than the US one for years.
>>719420728They hate you because you actually know what you're on about and it shows their gay little bad faith shilling has missed the mark on what people are upset with and how to try to weaponize empathy around yet never were capable of good faith empathizing and engaging with the actual, real points of contention to begin with. This repeated pattern has done more to land them on my shitlist than any other thing because typically I don't give a shit about American politics but these bleeding hearts' prospects are so shit they spend all day shilling blue team for free.
>>719420994>Give them an inch..Don't give up hope: It's ending.Lefticism (I refuse to call it "liberalism", because it's anything but liberal.) is getting BTFO'd all across the West at the moment.What we are seeing at the moment are the death throes of an ideology that hates every single one of the people.Their goal was to end the family, because the family is ultimately what enables the individual to be itself.The family was supposed to get replaced by the Socialist state. Fortunately kids can't really be made yet without two humans involved, although China is currently working hard on removing that necessity, that blocks its further growth.Blocking the purchase of adult video games is but an attempt to check how far they can go with their "but think of the children"-scam, while associated groups try to get the children on prescriptions for hormone blockers and the likes.
>>719421576>of the sideAre you blatantly ignoring what people are posting? Or are you finding it that difficult to stop thinking in terms of tribes?
>>719421742>can't give one>insisted because you don't support X you must support Y>backs away from accusationYour brain on Americanisms. Go the fuck back.
>>719412209>Abusers in real lifeyeah maybe to myself. i live alone.
>>719421903>stop noticing things, get back in your tribe REEEEEEE fight each other while the same thing keeps happening no matter who is in charge!
>>719421985okay, so you're being disingenuous. your'e not actually confused, you're purposefully distracting.at least we got that cleared up. so nobody else has to assume good faith from you.
>>719420728>Sony>#MeTooThat's but a pretext.Playstation ("Sony Interactive Entertainment") moved from Japan to California during the PS4 era.They will use ANYTHING to push the local agenda to the rest of the world.Playstation has absolutely nothing to do with Japan or Sony itself at this point in time. And it shows...
>>719421935It's easy to ignore them when they post in bad faith especially if when lightly pressed start to shit their pants and prove unable to answer on their own passive aggressive accusations.
>>719421209>>719421290I'm against your tribe and your policies specifically because I've seen what you're capable of and I no longer trust you. You are no friend of gamers and no friend of anime/manga fans and otakus. And you are definitely no friend of straight white men, which is what I am, and so I have even more reason to not like you. Even before we talk about games and anime, you supported BLM, Covid lockdowns, gay and tranny rights, and DEI policies in the workplace, all of which negatively impacted my life and the lives of people like me. Why would I ever trust you knowing you supported all of this?
>>719422074You still haven't elaborated upon your own accusation, blue team shill. I accept your concession. If red team is doing things along the same lines it should be easy to name what you accused them of supporting purely for being red instead of blue.
>>719422149According to them you're supposed to care about some bullshit narrative they've hyped themselves up in their insular circle into believing holds relevance.
The general feel of this thread topic changed yet again.They always seem to do this whenever people start noticing the issue, and desperately try to distract people back into their tribes.Would be impressive if it wasn't so blatantly transparent.
>719422149>other tribe(you)
how deranged do you have to be to point at a group of australian man hating lesbians and say "this is the american republican party!" and think anyone will believe you?
>>719422497I find it curious soon as they seemed to realize two different people saw through their faggotry they bail out yet are unlikely to realize how profoundly retarded and off-topic their argument was or that they came to thr wrong board to shill from their soapboxes to begin with. Those waters are good fishing, but they don't seize the moment.
>>719422584Russell Vought of Project 2025. American, and american movement.They funded Collective Shout.
>>719419429Wonder what disgruntled intern made that post.
719422575>engages in open PVP>gets third partied>'fucking teamers'
>>719422613Nah, they seem to still be trying to push people back into their tribes. They're just shifting gears again to distract.
>>719412209They can say whatever they want, the further they push the more evidence we have of how broken the current system of allowing payment processors to be the judges is. Trump's EO is the first step in pressuring banks, it's just a matter of time before fair access to banking goes through. They talk a lot of shit because they know their days are numbered.
>719422754>too ESL to comprehend properlyI had a feeling
>>719422759Good because the more they push the more they push away. I had no reason to hate until they decided to shove their face oh-so-self-importantly into a place that isn't politics and make it all about politics as if that's how they're gonna make friends rather than enemies out of otherwise uninterested anons. They've gone out of their way to make themselves hate able and while I hate them it effects my politics about as much as their efforts to change them have
>>719422905This feels very disingenuous anonAnd that's interesting because sometimes they try to "pretend to be the most out-of-place lefty shill possible" as well sometimes.
>>719422975Disingenuous is how they operate. Usually whatever their leverage is, is some irrelevant bleeding heart faggotry. While there are anons lapping the lefties to 'teach hate' I don't really give a damn about them because they've distilled the bad faith, "who cares?" angles that always get used down to a science they can replicate and mock.
Here, I'll do you all a favor and tell you what MY solution is: Putting direct pressure on corporations (e.g., VISA/Mastercard) and on law/policymakers to pass and amend laws opposing censorship and restricting what corporations running large, central platforms can censor or ban in the name of "brand/reputation protection", as well as opposing censorship laws like KOSA, SCREEN and the IODA, as what this outcry was building towards when Steam first got hit. Ideally, the anime/manga/gamer subcultures would form a bloc and demand amendments on existing legislation to remove any grounds for censorship, particularly those dealing with obscenity, such as various laws dealing with child pornography having any variations of "appears to be", appears to depict", etc., which gives far too much leeway to any judge or lawmaker with an axe to grind to persecute anime/manga/games because anime girls are more attractive than the average washed-up Hollywood actress.
this discussion has happened a gorillion times. It doesn't matter who you support and every side is trying to achieve somewhat similar things though for different reasons. Your choice is between your fellow slave class being gay and brown or bible thumpers and not quite as brown
>>719412209Reminder that right-wing Project 2025 co-creator and Trump administration budget director, Russel Vought is behind collective shout and the push to ban video games.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noIS9lmR0Y
>>719423193It really should just be illegal for businesses to refuse to do business with people over non-illegal statements, images, products, media, etc they've made. There was a time when I'd never hold that stance because I think it filters out some borderline harmful activities that go beyond saying nigger but since standards have changed my own have adapted. If there is no technical foul at play nothing should be done, period.
>>719418596this administration is killing the entire hobby sector. every hobby got fucked real hard, plastic models, card games, games, painting.
>>719423193>opposing censorship laws like KOSA, SCREEN and the IODAReminder: www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representativeYou should be speaking to your politicians. Their party doesn't matter. They represent you and you should tell them what you think / how you feel about these perspective laws.
>>719423193>anime/manga/gamer subculturesHonestly? At this point I'd prefer, if the West simply stayed the fuck out and let me enjoy the (by all measures perfectly legal) content in glorious 日本語.
>>719423564Hey buddy the political activism board and all the people you're trying to reach out to that might actually contact one of them are on another board. You could also try SA.
>>719412209I have very little empathy for their cause and I'd rather we make some 'adjustments' to female human rights than comply with this shit.You can glorify illegal things legally with fiction. It's a great solution to the lack of dangerous freedoms, and it's used all the time with violence and guns in movies and books and film. People killing others.I don't completely care about removal of rape/incest games. I've played some myself, but they don't have any longevity and do make me feel kind of wrong afterwards, so it's like whatever.I do wonder what the RL statistics are on the incidence of "obscene" games vs "obscene" behavior in real life.
>>719412209何だよ...?
>>719423653The interest of protecting video games is most relevant to the video games board flam. And /pol/ is filled with bots replying to bots. Ask them what they're doing about ID laws and they'll jump at the chance to demoralize you out of doing anything. I find it funny you ignore the team tribalism in the thread and only chastise a neutral post in favor of preserving this board's reason for existing at all.
>>719423564You can't really defeat it. The rhetoric has been set that OSA/KOSA/Chat Control are all laws that are meant to combat child porn. It literally started with just being conversations about "what do we do about spread of child porn online?" and then that led to these particular solutions.The reason is because a lot of it started appearing on Instagram, probably because of Russian bots or something, so it has violated the one thing politicians thought they secured with the endorsment of Social Media and selfie / "VERIFIED" culture.Because that didn't work they now wanna cripple the entire internet as well as social media, and it would've happened if Biden or Kamala Harris were president in 2025 as well.
>>719423620America and its tendrils are making a pretty good case for China because all I ever did was shut the fuck up about politics and generally only say good things about current hegemony and all it got me in America were a bunch of faggots injecting themselves into my personal matters.
>>719423367Where is the proof he had anything to do with Collective Shout, schizo?
>>719412503Cool it with the antisemitism.
>>719416490He's fine, he just heard a funny joke.
>>719423908Anon, I've been posting online since EverCrack days. Never before has anyone radicalized me while trying to make me see their POV and often they achieve the opposite by making their side look ugly. I view all the opposition coming out of the woodwork against knowing who is voting in the country very differently and as a sign of what the very loudest very smallest minority believes when all grounded metrics in friendship, work and otherwise I judge them by oppose them.
>>719420728>Specific examples of how Republicans deliberately try to ruin anime and other JP imports>B-but *vague babble about how Biden hurt Japan somehow*How did Americans become so retarded? Is it just zoomers who aren't old enough to remember how puritanical and rabid Republicans have always been? I still remember the satanic panic, they were always like this
>>719423927>You can't really defeat it.There are numerous ways to do it.Not all of them end with you breathing.
>>719424190>NO VOTE THE OTHER GUY>other guy supports further suppression while enacting new vectors of suppression>NO SUPPORT THE OTHER GUYWe live in a reality in which we lose all of our right from both directions. There is no side that fights for you. There will never be without significant change.
>>719424190our public education is routinely made worse and public perception is regularly wrapped up in tribalistic propoganda instead of actual meaningful dialog it's just "OTHER SIDE BAD!!!!" nonstop.the smart people that are american are a minority of the population, there's maybe 1 decently smart person for every 20 idiots and they all have the same voting power. sure if you pry into people as individuals you may find that they have wisdom or knowledge that was previously unfounded, but so many people are single-issue voters because they're stretched so thin financially that they do not have the time nor energy to actually vet where they get information from or have more nuanced introspection or leave their bubble where they aren't drowning, just wake up, work, eat, and sleep for the next day of work.
>>719424190You have it mistaken.Zoomers and millennials were born past the time they were the party of governing your personal matters through puritan panic ane moral outrage. I'm 40, I caught the very tail end of it during years that didn't matter to me/early childhood.Know who has been the party of puritan and moral panic as well as governing your personal matters such as what you can say, watch, engage with or play over their lifespan? Not Republicans.
>>719422656Oy vey you're not supposed to point out who funds what that's practically anuddah shoah
>>719418596Why does /v/ continue to defend the Christian crowd when Christians are known to dislike video games and think that they're ungodly?
>>719422656Give me a paper trail.
>>719424608>Not Republicans.lol
>>719424671No republican in the last 20 years banned by videogames and middle management like HR isn't exactly red team associated in the past 20-30. Take a gander at every DEI consulting agency there is. Not a lot of red.
>>719424834>>719424853I await your concession. The last time I can recall an 'oldschool' red team call for censorship that gained traction and notoriety was Postal.
>>719424593People are more intelligent than you give them credit for.It is just easy to be swept into my team good your team bad after they have selected a side that espoused more things they wanted than the other. And they stick with it.The problem is discourse or debate or reasoned discussion does not happen on social media. It is designed that way. The abundance of information reduces judgment of a person to alignment rather than individual values.
>>719424937>The last time I can recallThen you are either stupid or disingenuous. Feel free to pick one, then go fuck yourself.
>>719417413>t.MolestedMolester
>>719424995>Can't provide counterargumentI accept your concession even if it comes from the second to absolute lowest tier of argumentation.
>>719425064Your argument is that you are too stupid to remember reality.Eat a cock.
>>719424608Yeah definitelyBut that's besides the pointIt's the mercantile class all the way down
>>719425104I'm not the one unable to come up with an example. Mine was Postal. Yours is imaginary. Stay mad.
>>719424190>specific examples of how leftist policies are pozzing and censoring Japanese media AT THE SOURCE and how payment processors act this way regardless of administration.>B-but look at all this bad Republican stuffNigger, I remember Anita Sarkessian, Feminist Frequency, Zoe Quinn, the five guys and the rest of the GamerGate rogues gallery. Tumblr ideology spilling onto the greater net caused cancel culture and #MeToo, which led directly to the environment of censorship under the late Trump 1 and Biden admins and the pozzing and sanitization of Japanese media in line with their values. Which is STILL ongoing today as you can see with just the recent Trails in the Sky remake.
>>719412209Is this a game they want to play? We have documented receipts of all those who champion against anime porn being actual kiddie predators
>>719424608>Zoomers and millennials were born past the time they were the party of governing your personal matters through puritan panic ane moral outrage.Wrong, I'm 30 and distinctly remember Republican moral panic constantly raging 24/7 against anime, video games, harry potter, and DnD. Actual elected politicians constantly pointing fingers at cultural phenomena to get themselves re-elected over vague descriptions of society weakening. Democratic politicians are morally empty, not morally retarded. That's the difference. They've never put anywhere near the same level of effort towards banning or suppressing hobby industries, they would much rather sit on their ass and rake in money from insider trading apathetically. I dislike Democrats, I hate Republicans.
>>719425146Fucking look at what is happening right now. Why are you ignoring it?
>>719424983>People are more intelligent than you give them credit for
>>719412209>>719425264more importantly what they're doing does jack shit to protect kids and is actually detrimental to those ARE trying to protect children.
>>719425108Had the defense mentioned the US comics industry being intentionally neutered by the comics code he would have won. The idea that comics are for kids is entirely manufactured.
>>719425303Name a game they were upset about. I'll even give a different example than Postal despite there being so few- Shin Megami Tensei.
this whole "fiction effects reality actually!" thing is just a front to say:>"i'm a low iq subhuman and i want to do everything is see on a screen irl. so don't depict bad anything bad in your content or i WILL do them irl and it'll be YOUR fault"
>>719424983A person can be intelligent, but people are easy to manipulate as a group.The disenfranchised, exhausted, and ill-informed don't have time or interest to dig into nuance. someone that's smart can be a complete dumbass when you whittle them down and they are demoted to just another number in the my team-your team race
>>719425331I'm sure it's conservatives censoring games despite it having been liberals with taxpayer incentive since Obongo
>>719425331The argument you presented is you should be supporting the guys who aren't doing it. Except those guys have always been the ones doing it.
>>719425436Who the fuck is they? You think every democrat was mad about Postal or something?One shit head proposes some retarded shit and suddenly it's dogma? You sure you wanna go down that road?
>>719412503As an evil person. I wholeheartedly support this sentiment, because the best place to be evil is among moral busybodies. You are my sheeps clothing. Thank you for inviting me in.
>>719424190They feel compelled to defend the Christian side since they think that Christianity is the basis of modern Western civilization, which is false, since it's actually the Enlightenment, which rejects Christian concepts such as faith over reason.
>>719425524>still can't name a single exampleI'm 2-0.
>>719425492>>719425520Oh this is my bad, I forgot how retarded you guys were.
>>719425409Manufactured by whomst, retard? You think another piece of evidence against their case would be the linchpin, when they already rejected 3 rock solid pieces because of their personal feelings? The dude got fucked raw because they care more about their feelings than the facts, which is frankly hilarious if it weren't so fucked
Reminder most of this insanity has its roots in radical second wave feminists that believed everything from>All penis in vagina intercourse is rape because society is patriarchalThat's where 100% of the "rape culture" stuff comes from. You're talking to people who are fundamentally insane arguing from an insane premise. They use the word "rape" but their definition is really their own.
>>719416524>so it should be banned all the samebased, how do I support these filthy hags?
>>719425598I'm so retarded I'm the only one posting examples of conservative/republican moral crusades on vidya while others who assert its red team's fault can't name one.
>>719425596Example of what? There is no game in existence that meets your criteria. Also you're just saying things with no proof in any capacity. Who tried to ban postal? Who tried to ban smt?
>>719424608>i'm totally le oldfag I've been here since 2016 lolPlease consider suicide at your earliest convenience, no one's falling for it.
>>719414731>>I've had women ask me for CNCWere they Generalstacies? USA, GLA, or China?
>>719423993Watch the video, incel. The party you voted for are going to take away your porn and video games, just like they said they would lmao
>>719425686Postal and Shin Megami Tensei both were examples I grew up living and spectating.Surely someone who said the panic includes anime and other media can come up with one right?
>>719412503Certainly, you evil clowns should be hanged. Glad you agree with us.
>more sexual content and violence in media than at any point in history, and more accessible to the masses>rape & other violent crime rates are at an all time low in the civilized worldhmmmm
>>719425757>examples I grew up living and spectating.examples of what?who tried to ban them?
I have a better idea!Why not ban all internet services for anyone with a filthy stinken crotch goblin?You wanna bitch about exposing your kids?You don't get computer service until their 18.
>>719425709Who are you supposed to be quoting, retard?
>>719425809i think a few countries banned postal 1
>>719425148>Nigger, I remember Anita Sarkessian, Feminist Frequency, Zoe Quinn, the five guys and the rest of the GamerGate rogues gallery.Not a single politician or piece of legislation named. Did any of them accomplish anything on the level of the current import blockages we're seeing due to targeted import tariffs? No? A bunch of grifters separating fools from their money doesn't damage the industry, only individual companies employing hacks. Fox was screeching for months over Mass Effect "porn" and had actual politicians commenting on how we need to regulate what we're allowed to put in games. Afaik Anita never even finished her Youtube video series she was paid to do. You're getting mad at irrelevant grifters and vowing to elect people who actually campaign on damaging the industries you care about. What the fuck is the point?
>>719425721But that video has no link to Collective Shout.
>>719425854is that relevant to us politics, the subject of this off topic video game thread?
Good goys. Believe it when we tell you the hags are the ones responsible for this and not just a convenient excuse and scapegoat in case there's another Luigi out there. Pay no mind to the fact that they've been doing this for 15 odd years and they just magically happened to succeed just when we went on the offensive versus Japan.
>>719425809Two examples of Republicans banning games and going to culture war with games as the greater issue people are upset about with team blue the last 20 odd years.Examples I'm not supposed to give on your behalf but you don't seem to know what you're on about enough to give one, let alone two while claiming a massive censorship effort is alive and well from team red.
>>719425148Nazi.
>>719425920im not the original anon youre quoting so idk
>>719412209Hey, remember when male feminist allies and SJW's turned out to be actual rapists?Sure hope nobody forgets that.
>>719425957You have no examples.>>719425978Fair play.
>enemies try to achieve similar goals with different methods and for different reasons>all of it is bad for (you)>retards still try to engage in a finger pointing piss war
>>719425436Mass Effect, Bayonetta, Diablo, Doom, Skyrim. All under the guise of "pornography" or demonic depictions.
>>719417919They are targeting games that aren't from australia though
>>719425957>while claiming a massive censorship effort is alive and well from team red.holy fuck dude open your fucking eyeswhat the fuck are you doinglooklook at what is happening RIGHT NOW and who is in charge of ithow the fuck are you not making this connection?what is the mental block here?
>>719426041Still waiting on one of those anime or games team red censored, 30 year old know-nothing.
>>719426042thisinsult all the retards that enabled this all you want, but we still need to work together
>>719425808>>rape & other violent crime rates are at an all time low in the civilized worldMeanwhile everyone is importing brown people and those rates are skyrocketing, and reporting on them is prosecuted.
>>719426051Notice a thing about the dates those games released?As I said, zoomers have grown up with team blue being the team of moral panic, censorship and culture war.
>>719425624The evidence presented was foreign media,the testimony of the expert was about foreign media,and the statistic offered for domestic stuff was it was mostly read by adults.None of those unseat the content of domestic comics being infantile which convinces one to think it is strictly for kids.The prosecution presented the idea there was an effort to corrupt the youth by using a child's medium. They brushed off the evidence because 2 of 3 were those outsiders, and the 3rd was manchildren.
>>719414902>tfw when jojo battle star R when I fuck up narancia as dio >it means I want to beat up retarded poor children in rlBased as hell
>>719426114>dude trust me>all I'm gonna do is screech and flail>I cannot give a single example to back myself up>I'm just gonna scream about conservatives from before most people in this thread were likely born>TRUST ME OR ELSE ILL THROW MORE OF A SHITFITJust call me a tranny or a chud already.
>>719423987Not so much for China as for Japan.China is a socialist shithole, that plays the capitalism game the way socialists interpreted it as in the first place: The workers as the entirely powerless, dependent servants of the owners of the machines.Japan has this collectivist image, but in reality the Japanese people are much more free in the current year than people in Europe or the US.In order to ruin this, the West is working hard on forcing migration with the pretext of that covering for the low fertility rates, which is complete bullshit. Migration from the third world is on average a minus. It hurts more than it helps by several orders of magnitude.But looking at the current state of Europe and America, maybe even migration from there is a net negative at this point. So I have one, single recommendation for Japan: Sakoku - at least as far as humans and the media are concerned.On a cultural, civilizational level "the West" has been nothing but bad news for a while now. And I'm deeply ashamed for this.
>>719425148None of those people have any poliical power, so that's irrelevant. Meanwhile, you have Republicans such as Mike Lee endorsing Internet censorship with bills like KOSA. You've been tricked by grifters into fighting the wrong enemy.
>>719426226>Notice a thing about the dates those games released?They all happened within the last 15 years? I'll give you a more recent example then: literally the OP.
>>719425890>Not a single politician or piece of legislation namedYou types always fall back on this. That is not how the left works. They created an environment that saw people have their careers and lives ruined over sexting a woman once. They spread like a cultural virus, eventually infecting major institutions and corporations and enacting policies in line with their values through them. They didn't need to pass any laws because they effectively controlled the cultural discourse and got companies like Sony and Microsoft to enact corporate policies to appease them. If you try to measure leftist cultural damage by laws, you will come up short every time. Or are you seriously going to argue that it was anyone else that got Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun, Dead or Alive, etc. killed? Or that it was anyone else that is seeing Japanese games censored in line with progressive ideology at the source. "Point to the laws" is just fucking disingenuous at this point, the damage they've wreaked on the culture and discourse is easily observable.
>>719426427You're going to find with time many people consider any busy body that tells them what they can and can't enjoy in their own harmless personal lives to be faggots they're opposed to regardless of color they were and just because they hate one for trying to construct and fund more leverage to try and micromanage peoples' daily lives further doesn't mean they don't also hate the ones from the party that tends to do it less because their dichotomy requires they be diametrically opposed to their competing team. It isn't a fuck red or fuck blue issue. It's fuck 'em all and fuck all of their unpaid campaign employees.
>>719426226Also I'll give you team blue being culture war heavy for zoomers' lives, but Millennials should be old enough to remember Republican "small government so small it can find inside your home"
>>719426526Do standards set standards, or exceptions?If anything it's refreshing to me to see a censorship campaign be such a relatively smaller and taxpayer uninvolved process ran by a third party instead of American politicians and their slush funds.The games you mentioned however were made before DEI initiatives rolled out to to vidya. All of them.
>>719425350>and is actually detrimental to those ARE trying to protect children.There's a fair argument about that being a feature rather than a bug. We already know these "people" in positions of power are involved with child sex trafficking the world over, so them looking for ways to stop preventative measures against that while making it seem like they're the good guys is not far-fetched whatsoever.
>>719412209>It is rape for you to disagree with us. We are being raped when you don't follow our instructions
>>719425890>sure leftoids tried to destroy games but we were really bad at it!Oh cool so you come from a universe where these cunts didn't speak for the fucking UN? Where political pressure hasn't been consistently placed on Kapan to censor their media for over a decade now?
>>719426546>Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun, Dead or Alive, etc.Those aren't even good games. Isn't it possible that they just didn't sell very well? Perhaps they didn't even make a profit for the latter entries?
>>719412209huh that sounds like LIBEL to me
>>719426706I'm born in 84. I was 10 in 94. Does a <10 year old exactly care about and commit that to core memory? I know I didnt, I was riding my bike and getting into trouble.
>>719419163damn look at that baby
>>719426793>we asked you to obey us and you told us that there was no legal basis>so we cried to the teacher so they would PUNISH you>WTF why do you not like me anymorethese women are too vile to threaten with empty rape threats on the interneta simple death is all they deserve. no fanfare, no martyrdom, just the silence of a woman finally shutting up.
>>719426263Thus, video games and anime should be censored in the US. It is still the consensus that these are mediums for children, shit for brains
>>719426546it's not disingenuous because in one case it's just a matter of public pressure and corporate balls which wildly swings and the other is literally making it illegal altogether. All of it is bad but one is definitely worse than the other
>>719426427>None of those people have any poliical powerAnita and Zoe went directly to the UNShut the fuck up.
>>719426706Chucking in that I really think a lot of people look at Republicans and remember what they were but forget in current year for them to be truly relevant and remembered/lived by someone at an age old enough they'd have noticed and been upset by it the argument is trying to reach out to someone 50+ on 4chan about videogames less than 10 years old to make a connection.
>>719412209Project 2025 still at play, I seeFuck Vought, and the tourists pretending to care about this ignoring a Trump admin spot being directly involved
>>719426546>You types always fall back on thisBecause you retards always shit your pants and run defence for politicians that want to legislate the downfall of our hobby, as if that's the same or somehow better than leftist cultural infighting. We still have tiddy games today, they didn't disappear, companies just got tricked into thinking they weren't profitable enough to be mainstream. They can come back any time those companies realize their mistake, passing actual industry-damaging legislation isn't so easy to undo. Do you think I don't dislike Jason Schreier? He shat on tiddy games and guess what? The same company he shat on still put out another game with bikini armor, because his opinions doesn't matter. You're really gonna defend electing moral psychos to office over that? Focus on the shit that matters
>>719427121>two feminstists went to grovel and lost "have power">meanwhile the Trump admin is dismantling the entire country with project 2025https://www.project2025.observer/en
>>719425890>Well actually feminist frequency le didn't really do anything reallykys disingenuous faggot
>>719427224Friendly reminder taxpayer dollars have been rolling into the vidya development economy mostly from America and mostly from King Nigger circa 2013 forward.I think most people also don't know they owe it to him in the blame short span of time for eradicating the 40 hour work week in favor of turning people into contractors on split shifts as well as nuking journalistic integrity by removing their legal honus to tell a semi accurate story even if one primed thoroughly with charged language.
>>719426758>The games you mentioned however were made before DEI initiatives rolled out to to vidya.Retard. If you're too dementia-addled to remember what was happening 15 years ago just say so. Just because it was called something other than DEI back then doesn't make it different
>>719427396>Well actually feminist frequency le didn't really do anything reallyThey didn't, but capitalists did
>>719427478It's a handful of standout exceptions before DEI.Meanwhile DEI is industry-wide and has seemingly played a part in several major companies breaking their own knees such as Ubisoft.
>>719424671Because /v/ became the Christian crowd.2016 tourists, troll remorse, contrarianism towards "Democrats" and their perceived cultural zeitgeist.It's okay when they do it.
>>719427121He doesn't want to admit this because he's purposely disingenuous. the kind of election losing behaviour you would expect
>>719427396Because it didn't
Sexual violence games fall under art. As such, they are protected.Art, despite being controversial, is protected.
>>719412209>conflating a bunch of terrible daz goblin sex games with child rapegod i hate these people
>>719412209I do not care about seeing WEG tier games censored. But i know its a slipperyslope to seeing the game i do enjoy censored so im willing to stand with WEGbro's. This does not mean i'm okay with rape.
>unironically comparing legislation to corporations trying to chase trends from loud whinersthis is all bait
>>719427083>it's just a matter of public pressure and corporate balls which wildly swingsIt isn't swinging at all.Sony's policies have been in place for seven years now.Microsoft had similar ones no later than 2020 and as early as 2011.Steam tightened the noose gradually over the 2020s. Now it's virtually impossible to even release a censored ecchi game there. Nintendo finally implemented their own censorship policies in 2023 after insisting in 2019 that they do not generally interfere with third-party releases as long as they have a valid rating.Why didn't it swing back during the Biden admin? Why did it just get worse and worse? There are NO viable outlets for these games to release any more, even in places where they aren't illegal. They can't even release unaltered in Japan because of these policies that Sony normalized. Again, leftists didn't need to pass any laws to wreak large-scale damage to the culture on a global scale.
wow guys I guess its conservatives all along this changes everything with vidya going back to Kotaku and the fucking UN the past 20 years wow
>>719425821This. There's no reason a child should have social media or access to the internet.
>>719427448Every country with a domestic games industry has poured millions of tax dollars into it, this is meaningless.
>>719424671the entire site is overwhelmed with astroturfing and marketing shills.
>Oh you don't agree with these games that feature rape being removed?>Well I guess you just hate women, want to remove their basic rights, want them all to be beaten to death, and also want to kill young girls too?I will definitely interact with this definitely not completely poisoned argument.
How come none of you posted the founder of collective shouts book?
>>719427941I'm sure they all had their own versions of DEI, anon.
>crotch goblinz seethe and cope about men liking 2d anime gamesfeminism is a cancer best left dead
>>719412209Gotta be human to have human rights, jew sockpuppet.
>>719427224>companies just got tricked into thinking they weren't profitable enough to be mainstreamTricked by who, again? By leftist-captured media outlets and western branches and by consultant groups like Sweet Baby Inc. >You're really gonna defend electing moral psychos to office over thatI am not willing to elect leftist politicians who literally hate me and the things I like for being a straight white male no matter how much you try and gaslight me.
>>719428196Them gaslighting you would imply they're capable of overcoming the lived reality of statements, movements, proposed legislature and what the people bringing all that stand for. They are absolutely delusional enough to believe themselves capable.
>>719427867those aren't the only companies you dummy. Many are still putting out ecchi shit and some have swung back entirely. You also keep ducking the fact that literally making it all illegal is being pushed through right now
>>719424671I don't know that this is actually true when I know people at work who are hardcore young earth creationist loonies and go to church literally every day but play lots of video games and think nothing of it. They do tend to hate sex in video games (and every other kind of media for that matter) though.I don't think any particular belief system necessarily makes you a moral scold. You can be an irritating busybody from any direction. It is a personality trait not a natural outspring from a particular set of values. That's why many of the current day feminist moral scolds used to dabble with the Christians. They just went wherever had to go in order to boss people around because that, the bossing around, is what really drives them.
>>719427842>I DINDU NUFFIN, IT WAS ALL THOSE RIGHT-WING CHUDS' FAULT!
>>719428010
>>719428005>partner's insatiable greed for porn>Porn colonised their families>sexual terrorism>turbo-charged by pornographyI thought the same thing with Dustborn, but how are they so good at making things that portray their views in the exact same way an Alt Right Chud would try to strawman them as?If I couldn't double check this myself I would 100% think this was a shitpost meant to portray them as complete retards
>aussie feminist group and right-wing project 2025 behind this>people still resorting to "mah tribe"can't tell which are brainlets, and which are legitimate shills trying to deflect
>>719412209Everyone knows thats bullshit and the collective fart is just a scrapegoat.
>Sexual Violence Game Defenders Are Abusers in Real LifeIt's really funny because from my experience it's the always opposite.People who are confident with their fetishes are often very nice people, weird sometime for sure, but most harmless and issues with them are extremely rare.Meanwhile everytime I've dealt with puritans, they are either permanently butthurt over the smallest thing or end up doing fucked up shit.
>>719428383>all countries dump money into their games economy lolI think the crack rock decimated your frontal lobe.
>>719412564No. Because completely different areas of the brain are being stimulated by different chemical reactions. This is why lolicons ARE pedophiles but people who play GTA are NOT mass murderers. Same thing for porn games, particularly those promoting sexual abuse. They ARE abusers in real life.
>>719427574Ubisoft makes dogshit software and they deserve to fail, full-stop. Their fiasco with Skull and Bones proves they don't need any pressure to make the worst decisions imaginable. I'd rather 100 ubisofts go under from culture war bullshit than elect a single politician who's gonna regulate the games industry or slap import restrictions on hardware or hobby products. New companies can always be made, the good workers who don't want to follow culture war trends can always be rehired.
>threads like this prove how much normalnigger infiltration of /v/ has been going on.
>>719428403tribalism has divided people so effectively they can't even agree this is bad because their ideological opponents also think it's badit's almost like it was all calculated or something...
>>719415138>Never take anything women say seriously.ftfy
>>719428538>/v/eddit is filled with normalfagsWhoa...
>>719428005Oh, she just wants revenge on ALL men because her husband left her
>>719428462Strange, I've noticed this too. While I like all the degen tags and rape the only dude I've only known that got arrested was a super vanilla, super upright, almost puritanical guy that got put away for beating and raping his woman. I think it's power/the ability to boss people around from a spot of perceived superiority.
>>719428196>I am not willing to elect leftist politicians who literally hate me and the things I likeNobody asked you to elect Sweet Baby to Congress, which by your admission, is the one putting the pressure on. Just stop electing right-wing populists who want to pass anti-industry legislation. Goddamn, it's not that hard.
>>719428487There was a time when Ubisoft and by extention Naughty Dog only made good games. The time they stopped coincides with the time DEI rolled out to vidya devs.
>>719428329>Many are still putting out ecchi shit and some have swung back entirely.Like what
>>719428329>Many are still putting out ecchi shit No they aren't. Almost all the companies that used to specialize in it either dropped out or neutered their output after Sony's policies were put in place. It now only exists in the form of ultra-low budget indie games like qureate and TurretGirls. Did you even read the image I posted where Inti Creates had to spell out to you that Gal*Gun is impossible to make any more no matter how much they want to because no platform will host it? And that was one of their most popular and profitable IPs. Even Eastasiasoft who are staunch defenders of fanservice and otaku games had to basically tap out after Tokyo Clanpool got banned or censored by THREE fucking different storefronts. YOU did this. Policies and cultural tides that YOU supported made this possible. I don't wanna hear a fucking thing about how bad the evil Republicans are from the side that singlehandedly killed Japanese otaku games.
>>719428742>There was a time when Ubisoft and by extention Naughty Dog only made good gamesWrong
>>719428396its on amazon anon....just google and google the persons name with collective shout added
>>719428551https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer
>>719412209Reminder that itch removed all NSFW games because of payment processors.These guys also went after GTA 5 and Detroit become humanThey are also against porn in generalSo they aren't stopping at just rape games. Also, I'm pretty sure rape games aren't illegal in the us
>>719428010If you are bottom left you don't give a shit about concepts like freedom and free speech, idiot
>>719428710>stop electing populists Anon, you live in a time where populist ideals are demonized when they're more or less for benefiting citizens of a country first and foremost above all else.You're in an era where people will scream out for populist candidates espousing populist ideals after so many years of foreigner-first policy.
>>719416654Welcome to women, where cognitive dissonance is the default and the responisbility is never theirs.
>>719428875Populism doesn't work long term. Never has.
>>719428463>Countries don't put tax money into their domestic entertainment industries because uuuuuhhhhh, they just don't, okay?
>>719428754Look up their timeline of games. Notice where their Uncharted games fall. Dove off a cliff immediately after DEI was introduced to the game funding process. Doesn't help Ubisoft seemed to shape themselves around government gibs for humanitarian game projects instead of good games.
>>719428809>If I couldn't double check this myself I would 100% think this was a shitpostAnon check your reading comprehension. I'm saying if I COULDN'T check and see it was true, I'd call it a shitpost.
>>719428875>when they're more or less for benefiting citizens of a country first*benefiting a very select few billionaire citizens of a country first
>>719428863To elaborate the average conservative would be fine with a communist dictatorship as long as their family was not hrmed. The average liberal would be fine with being executed along with their family by a fascist regime if it seemed like it would eventually bring liberty back.
>>719428863It was more like if you're bottom left you don't give a shit about anything but your immediate community and surroundings whole top right would sell your 'normal comfortable' out for a literal bugman- or as the metrics of the actual questions judged- a fucking rock.
>>719427941wrong
>>719428845The only fictional thing that is often a grey area in western countries in loli/shota, everything else is consider legal. (beside a few exception)
>>719428875most populist ideals are shortsighted and don't actually address the deeper, more fatal issues. They just scapegoat people with no power and turn a blind eye to people making policy
>>719429062Nah, it shows that conservatives do not value sacrifice really.
>>719428936>constituents being represented first and foremost by their elected officials doesn't work long term>prioritizing your own country's wellbeing doesn't work longtermNew Zealand, Japan, Switzerland, etc
>>719412503>ALL evil must be removed from our world.I agree but my guess is your opinions on healthcare, food, water, housing, public health, infrastructure, war, etc are pretty evil.
>>719417413Abuse is retarded when the real world will always be the ultimate test.
>>719412209>collective karens are too stupid to find out about the kind of Skyrim mods I useyeah i'm safe
>>719428975>putting money into the industry is equivalent to everyone having some form of taxpayer incentive to make your games faker and gayer/fit social dogma of nowUhhh retard alert
>>719429062Yes and if you're bottom left you don't give a shit about anything but family and immediate community. You are conceding you would be fine with a benevolent dictator that left you and your family alone. You do not care about concepts of personal liberty.
>>719417601But why though, what do they gain? I thought it's in (((their))) best interest that we watch porn and play vidya?
>>719429128One extremely left wing country and two immensely stratified societies? Okay?
>>719429121>Conservatives won't sacrifice my comfort for some faggot EthiopianGood.>>719429036That's not what populism is, cool oligarch headcanon though, but you missed the part where that's what America is currently.
>>719428863Nobody gives a shit about the children murdered in minneapolis because the right didn't know them and the left has greater concerns like the oppression nonbinary multisouled furries experience when filling out a DMV form.
>>719429191When the alternative is giving out billions in aid because bleeding hearts need their slush fund money so be it. They made a compelling case for someone promising the homeland should come first
>>719412209>>719412503>5 minute samefag reply because no one posted in your clickbait thread
>>719412503Of course, to remove evil from the world, you'd have to commit unspeakable evils. Then you have to be removed from the world too, as do all humans inevitably commit evil - no exceptions. More importantly, those seeking to rid the world of evil will inevitably be infiltrated by those looking to do evil, they'll be overtaken, and the power they've gathered to enact the removal of evil will instead be used to commit unspeakable evils instead.Policing fiction is a step away from policing thought, and policing thought is a path to unspeakable atrocity, followed by ever more hideous acts to follow.Purity tests are impossible to pass. No one is ever pure enough.Why are people so obsessed with doing the things they've been warned about doing for thousands of years?
>Abusers in real lifeNigger gamers are fucking virgins who've never even asked a woman out. The only thing being abused is hands
>>719429249Crazy how right wing they are by comparison to America isn't it?You may wish to look upon their social policy. I included a deliberate mix of some of the worst and best work life balances for a reason.
>>719429251See >>719429251 and move to North Korea you liberty hating fag. Grovel to a dictator and you'll get whatever you want.
>>719428875I guess you're gonna ignore the anti-industry legislation part. I guess if clowning on Sweet Baby and DEI companies is that important to you, then you can just stomach the import blockages caused by shipping companies in places like Japan refusing to sell to the US now. Personally I would've preferred to be able to buy my good hobby products alongside choosing to not buy shitty DEI products but I guess it's better to not have a choice at all.
>>719414704Have you ever read a social science PHD thesis? Its just 100 pages of opinions.
>>719414704The best way to find out is to test it. Send me a large sum of money and I'll make an outlandish claim.
>>719428775>it's da democrats!>it's da republicans!Anyone still thinking like this should just be shot in the head since they'll be nothing but a hindrance to an actual revolution. All shitlibs and their politicians are ruled by the same slanted noses who run shadow organizations like the Bilderberg Group. Those meetings are where policy is set
>>719429409>Picks worst faith example possibleYou know, the country rated to have the highest standards and happiness among their populace is something of a populist country. Really makes ya think.
>>719429409Meant >>719429051
>>719429413>guess you're gonna ignore my faggot framingYes, because it has so many prerequisites I also need to believe to do such a level of mental gymnastics that leads me to say "Constituents coming first is not only bad but unsustainable. We are much better off weeping for and sensing resources to third-world shitholes."
>>719429480>Anyone still thinking like this should just be shot in the headThere will never be a revolution because 99% of all americans think exactly like this. That's why their country is the way it is these days.
>>719429180>everyone having some form of taxpayer incentive to make your games faker and gayer/fit social dogma of now>Me when I lieI guess we're gonna just ignore all the companies that were just...not doing all of this.
>>719429502>Lookup political party currently leading happiest country, Finland>It's this Lol
Half the reason these arguments keep going back and forth is because shitlibs keep antagonizing people with the "fell for it again award" and "you voted for this" memes, like they literally want you to feel bad for not voting for their indian cumsock whore. Most people here oppose this, but libs just have to come in and be smug shitheads despite all the damage they've caused in the past decade. That's why people are getting defensive. Of course they're going to push back against you, you're literally going out of your way to shit on them. You keep criticizing "tribalism" but here you are taking any opportunity you can get to dunk on other tribe while browbeating them for directionbrain out the other side of your mouth.
>>719429710>Duhhh just because other countries invest in their industry means we should ignore taxpayer money pushing DEI!When you have to be that dishonest of a faggot to die on a hill maybe you picked a bad hill.
>>719429710Well go on then, show me an AAA company that never compromised. Even Japan got hit with expectations to bend the knee.
>>719429728Tell me about how a fiercely protective country that isn't in line with EU border policy isn't populist and putting themselves first above the needs of the EU.
>>719412209Why are women so weak?
>>719429849Because they're led by an extremely EU friendly party and are at best a generic big tent party with no real conviction?
>>719429584>Yes, because it has so many prerequisites I also need to believe to do such a level of mental gymnastics that leads me to say "Constituents coming first is not only bad but unsustainable. We are much better off weeping for and sensing resources to third-world shitholes."What prerequisites? That centers for our hobby not shipping to the US is bad? Did you genuinely miss that news?
>>719429732people responding like women to facts indicates a much bigger problem with them. Libs doing a victory lap for being broken clocks shouldn't matter
>>719429925Weird that their actual policy and how it plays out isn't closer to Germany innit? Quite the disparity between the two. It's almost like one is foreigners first and the other isnt.
>>719429902if women are weak why do they tyrannize you daily?
>>719412503Not just any desire for evil but any mention of itYou're thematizing evil? That's evil.Talking about evil? That's right, evil.Exposing evil and making it public? You guessed it, evil.Unless you remove any mentions and thoughts about evil being even a thing in this world you are part of the problem
>>719429995You're asking me to break down a cycle of how I'd wind up unironically advocated against my own countrymen and their interests and well being in favor of siphoning resources for them off to some foreign alien or a country full of them across the sea.I can't break that down because there's no reality in which I can be turned against not only my own interests but an entire homeland's.
>>719424190>Is it just zoomers who aren't old enough to remember how puritanical and rabid Republicans have always been?There was a party switch sometime around 2010 and all the weird hall monitor soccer mom authoritarians jumped ship to the Democrat party for some reason, and now its the Republicans fighting for freedom of speech and expression.
>>719429781ID software. "Mortally challenged" and all that.
>>719430006No Syrian wants to live where it is 40 below right next to Russia
>>719416976>>719414704And my axe!
>>719429732That is all and ever libshits will do. Until someone from the democratic party comes in and denounces them and takes the reigns for economic just and reform and making life less shittier for all of us, we will continue to see these fags do this shit
>>719430012Because tyranny is the path of the weak
>>719429728>Centre-right>all that shitI love how skewed the political spectrum is in america that this shit is still considered centrist and even a little conservative in europe.
>>719430130So basically you're so consumed by the culture war that you no longer care about burning the industry down with needless regulation. At least you admit it.
>>719430291Sure helps the finns are a bit gatekeep-ey/rayciss.That and their borders are actually hardened from bordering Russia.
>>719413778It's not about corpos, your true enemy is women. This is just one step, eventually males will be castrated at birth.
>>719430165You mean the ones who recently release the dark ages?
>>719430361I'm so consumed here I am advocated for elected officials to represent those that elected them while you claim that system is not only unsustainable but bad, wrong and bad ongoing.Sure, I'm the one immersed in too much terminally online ideology for describing the basic role of elected officials and constituents in a democracy.
>>719428486fuck off with your thoughtcrime nonsense pls. No victim = no crime.
>>719423193This is actually the only good solution. "voting harder" is retard. Full pressure in mease by all gamers is what is needed.
>>719430406Yes
>>719415138This is what feminism is all about: sucking dick
>>719429251>That's not what populism isthat's what's it being used for currently
>>719430453Concession accepted
I'm always amazed how little people will fight for their rights.
>>719430527Give it time and it'll come by nature of this only succeeding if it's marketable and the next market being parents that're more acclimated with what makes a shit or preachy game shit or preachy buying said games through their own filter for their own kids.
>>719429671It's not just americans. /v/ is proof of that
>>719430620Lots of people goes with the idea that if it doesn't affect them immediately, it's not their problem, ignoring that often, when it becomes their problem, it's already too late to do anything about it.
>>719430602Remind me who is advocating for the average straight white male in America, let alone a straight male?Where's the populism? Did it go to all the Liberians in africa?
>>719428936Neither has democracy or anything else.
>>719430607>"Constituents being represented by who elected them is unsustainable.">"Concession accepted."Imitation is flattery and retardation is seasoning.
>>719413863Yeah i'd be looking at a slander lawsuit over that if I was the dev.Being disliked by feminists doesn't make it illegal.
>>719430751>random nonsenseFeel free to make an actual point whenever you feel like.
>>719430880Maybe I'll start after those claims conservatives are censoring everything gets backed up. As is standard is set if I give examples you'll cry about it and give none.
>>719430752>>719428936What consistent unchanging system of government, on the record, has never failed?
>>719412209>ZOMG these pixels are LITERALLY killing women!I'm tired of this script.
>>719414704Yes, but it takes charisma and thorough knowledge of manipulation techniques to pull that off. That's why rightoids consistently lose to leftoids in arguments, they just get played and are too retarded to notice.
>>719430951You replied to the wrong person apparently. What are you even going on about.
>>719431051Capitalism sure seems like an effective driving force for the ones that're current and relevant.
>>719428486This is one of the most dishonest, reddit-smirk pieces of shit I've ever read.
>>719429671representative democracy and party politics trains people to think like thisit's the exact same thing in europe and their governments are moving in the exact same direction in near lockstep with americait is a millennia-old strategy of us-vs-them that preys upon primal aspects of human psychology that average people have never and will never be able to rise beyond
>>719431102Sorry you can't present a counterargument. Straight natives aren't advocated for to such an extent their government tried to invent exclusive loans only for illegal aliens to buy housing.
>>719412209But the countless slew of games objectifying and dehumanizing men as things to be shot and killed in shooters for decade after decade is just fine.Women getting rights was a mistake.
Collective Shout is funded by Evangelical money. Evangelical money funds the state of Israel. Christianity is constantly changing: today it is a Billy Graham revival Ashkenazi Jew worship cult, centuries ago it was a Genevan and German law dropouts' law school exercise and before that it was an Eastern Roman state cult. The modern 66 book Protestant Bible was collated on Luther's whims. Centuries ago protestants were cursing Talmudic Jews, today they're worshipping them and burying justification by faith. The churches have changed their message so much, that the Gospels themselves may have been edited and whatever Jesus's message ever was may as well be lost. Presuppositional apologetics is a ruse and a clumsy plagiarism of Kant (CpR), Aristotle (Metaphysics, Prior Analytics) and Plato. Reality is not a Jack Chick comic. The Bible has contradictions and the various apologetics to say it doesn't have contradictions even contradict each other. The first step to overthrowing Collective Shout is to overthrow what their sponsors believe. So what's so hard about unbelief when you already coom like an unbeliever?
this thread fucking glows. you can tell a certain group wants to turn a nonpartisan populist issue into some anti-populist crusade
>>719412209These women are fucking retarded
>>719431195Anon. Seriously, what are you even going on about.You replied to the wrong post, that isn't even what the discussion was about you moron.
>>719431246Do your part and make those retards explain themselves into an unpalatable corner.
I hate women so much its unreal
>>719412503Shouldn't you be diddling kids or something right now Reverend John
>>719430348Both Europe's and America's politospheres are batshit insane.I wouldn't dare to voice my unfiltered opinion towards anyone outside my closest circle at this point.It doesn't matter what I think, someone would want to see me dead for saying it.But frankly said, it's probably less the position that I'd prefer people using public transport instead of MIVs, but the position that I'm against practically unfiltered migration.Conservatives might be the people fighting for access to guns for anyone who still has his marbles together, but it's so-called liberals using them to kill people exposing what they perceive as wrong-think.No one gets hurt by people playing video games. Any adult with full legal capacity ought be able to create, sell, buy and play any video game as he desires.If you don't like the game, don't play it. No one is forcing you to.
>>719431305Good news! This is all funded by a man in Washington!
>>719431274It's okay, concession accepted. You may continue trying to give non-acknowledgements and non-arguments. Give me my (You), loser.
>>719429671>There will never be a revolution3 dead CEOs and counting say otherwise
>>719428486We've had real studied on people that play video games. They see increased aggression equivalent to the increase in aggression seen in both men and women that play sports like Basketball. It's a pretty normal human response to a competitive challenge.So, with that in mind, if we are going to ban video games for that reason we'd also have to ban sports . . . and basically anything competitive. Which means we'd have to ban work too, as people get competitive at the workplace for raises, bonuses, and promotions.Basically anything that puts forth a competitive challenge would need banned. Anything with something to gain that multiple people would want. You'd have to ban women since multiple guys might compete for one.It gets really ridiculous really fast.
>>719430325Arguing with shitlibs is their masturbation material, and they take pleasure in arguments that go nowhere. The only winning way of interacting with them is to threaten to kill them
>>719429069Where do you think the recent korea/china shilling has come from?
>>719431507Earnestness and transparency is unironically a rare and valuable commodity especially to younger impressionable generations in an era of fake and gay. Every time you get one of these subhumans to start explaining themselves you expose how disingenuous and bad faith they are to lurkers and further immunize the pack to their bullshit.
hey glowniggers i have all of you figured out. you think you're slick, huh? i know you're trying to create a "reverse gamergate" of sorts because you dislike how populist gamers are as a whole. you want us to be your useful idiots for your own political ends. honestly, good luck. i doubt most others will be intelligent enough to see it.
Normie women should be made to compete with porn since they are not sexually submissive enough, change my mind.
>>719431368>Go on weird unrelated melty which had nothing to do with the conversation>Claim victory out of nowhereI knew there were schizos on /v/, but holy fucking shit...
>>719429362wut
>>719431413Look at the third part of the essay, anon. It's literally just strawmen and hyperbole as an academic argument.
>>719428863The concept of "if you have to choose" is very revealing of character. Are you capable of acting with integrity when the opposite benefits you, or only when you are forced to? For Conservatives, it appears the answer is often No.It’s a scarcity/zero-sum mentality.
>>719428486What kind of schizophrenic nonsense am I reading here
>>719412209This keeps being a completely retarded point. Look, you either ban all kind of violence against anyone from any media or you don't anything at all, all there is in between is just hypocrisy or madness.
>Get btfo so hard you start schizoposting about anything other than video games, begging for a (you)Time to go play some vidya, I guess
>>719431815Does not go far enough unless porn goes full dive and involves all the senses removing any advantages they have over it. They should be below dogs in status.
Where is that schizo who was sure it was actually trump banning steam games?
>>719412209>aiming to protect womenlol wtf this as weak as the government claiming to want to protect children
>>719432001there's like 20 different schizos happening here, gotta be more specific. hell, you might be one of them.
>>719412209Do any of this people even have some kind of study or evidence that proves that these games somewhat cause more rapes and stuff? Because we instead have confirmed many and many times that the people against stuff like loli vidya usually diddle with real children.
>>719431898Honestly being THAT self centered doesn't even make sense, because if you take it to a logical conclusion of how far your empathy goes, it should not even be possible to care about "the white race", or even humanity itself because those are abstracts far outside of your lone family unit.
>>719432381Yes actually, you can read all the throughly documented studies to back up their claims on pic related.
>>719432280They are one of them anon. They got so BTFO they completely mindbroke into pretending they got a wrong response.
>>719432381of course not, crime has never been lower, it's a power grab by degenerate busybodies
>>719432607Oh,you're one of the schizos.That narrows things.
>>719432705>Make point casually>get responded to with increasing levels of assmad>ignore assmad, accept their concessionYes.
>>719432756kekyou're all a riot
>>719432280>hell, you might be one of themI only schizopost in Star Citizen shill threads
>>719432381You don't understand how this works, hole wants thing, screams, gets thing. That's all western culture is, a grinding exercise in soothing permanently implacable holes.
>>719432839>Year of stability>So anyways, here's this new content we're really proud ofBased. Fuck that game.
>>719432280I suspect it's the anon who mistakenly replied to the wrong post, then accepted a concession for some reason from who knows who.Bizarre as fuck.
>>719412209>'Steam's Sexual Violence Game Defenders Are Abusers in Real LifeT R V K ERVKE
>>719416524>Their whole shtick regarding violent woman's "romance" is that women only like it because of an elaborate psyop by men to perpetuate sexual violence>Women have no accountability and are fucking retarded>says a woman who demands we should listen to herI don't think they thought this whole thing through.If women are easily manipulated retards with no accountability, why should we listen to women?
>glowies shilling on a saturday evening>at most 10 real people are going to read their postsdo you think the pay is worth it?
hello can someone explain why if republicans are behind vidya censorship why aren't the things they hate the most like gay and tranny shit being censored? they protest about troons being allowed in target bathrooms and school sports teams so wouldn't they be against this body type 2 shit in games too?
>>719433235LGBT issues are wedge issues.They don't really care.
>>719412503Including the desire to make money. So now you know which ethno religion to remove.
>>719421935>stop thinking in terms of tribes>while saying republicans are the problemThe ONLY correct answer here is to genocide BOTH libs and cons and their puppet masters and start fresh. The way you're talking makes it come across as "THE RIGHT IS EVIL STOP DEFENDING THEM" and then when asked about what the left has done you go "NOO STOP TALKING ABOUT THE LEFT TALK ABOUT THE RIGHT"The answer is KILL THEM ALL. No sides, no tribes, ALL OF THEM.
>>719433512The jew fears the radical centrist.
>>719433235If they try to seriously go after the trannyfaggot shit, they get pushback from Democrats, civil rights groups and NGOs, and other assorted left-affiliated groups. If they go after the straight male-pandering material like anime, the left is either silent or claps and cheers because they hate straight white men. Thus, they go harder against straight male content because it has nothing defending it.
>>719430602that's just the shortcoming of electoral politics, anyone can say whatever they want to get elected and then do the oppositetrump is objectively not a populist even if he used some slogans to get into officethe neoliberals all over europe and australia are doing the same shit and they sure as fuck didn't run on populismin the end, any system where political office is gatekept by multi-million dollar advertising campaigns and political establishments will turn out this wayyou'd be better off handing political office out at random
>>719426830>Isn't it possible that they just didn't sell very well?They made more PROFIT(yes, PROFIT not revenue) than most AAA games. Bullet Girls Phantasia sold over 100k copies when BG1 and BG2 sold in the 10-20k range. Making 5-10x more sales while keeping their budget low. That is the definition of profitable.
>>719417206>Mr President has been soft-confirmed to be a child fuckerBut democrats love Bill Clinton and Joe Biden!
>>719412209Australians have a stick up their ass about everything. Weren't they supposed to be cool outdoorsmen who don't give a fuck?Only in recent years have Visa started policing the world. Decentralization can't come soon enough.
>>719434757yes i'm sure caitlin roper is an avid outdoorsman
>>719434757I regret to inform you there are f*male Australians.
>>719428486And despite all those words not a single source was given. It's as well researched as that feminist hag's book. TLOR is more non-fiction than this abomination of a .txt file.
i'm also against violence and all. that why i bought nothing. thanks austrafags, kek
>>719434757>cool outdoorsmenAnon, it's a post-wall hag of a woman she doesn't go outside, she just wallows in misery with boxed wine(referred to in Australia as goon) while seething that men are happy while she isn't.
>religious conservative moms arm of conservative think tank rebrands as Sarkeesian style "feminists" to garner liberal support in order to compel payment vendor to engage in extra judicial censorship.Jack Thompson was a twat but at least had the wherewithal to recognise that there was a fine line between concern for degenerative effects of controversial material, and self righteously impugning another's ability to self determine, and tried to avoid crossing it.Collective shout is an astroturfed contemporary version of middle ages witch hunt style fundamentalists.
>>719424048Just wanna say I love these posts.
>>719434757>Crocodile Dundee manages to salvage your country's reputation from being knows as that country that lost war to birds>kill it again and now you're that UK tier nanny state
>>719433235>censorship why aren't the things they hate the most like gay and tranny shit being censored?they are
>>719412209>no one has a right to hurt WOMEN in gamesoh but raping and killing men is A-OK?fucking stupid cunt
>>719417829>JCB no fucks>AMEX no fucksWonder if Musk will actually get off his ass and enter the processing space. He'd save millions processing his own xitter transactions.
>>719414731>>I've had women in my house that asked for me to choke them>>I've had women ask me for CNC>>They asked for myriads of other abusive/semi abusive things.this, ex was the sameliterally had a full on rape fetish, not even cnc like actual full of rapei tried it 1 time and it broke me honestlyi had to hide it from her and make it out like i liked it. she was very happy with itbut it kept getting more and more violenti just couldnt do iti still have nightmares that i raped her, which i did, which she wanted, which she thanked me for.but it just totally fucked me up.
>>719431246>nonpartisan issueCollective Shout is a right-wing organization funded by other right-wing affiliated individuals and organizations. There's nothing nonpartisan about it.
>>719434757The Australian government was feminized long ago. You see the men in ausgov? All fags that fuck rentboys. 1000% feminized.
Remember how the feds just let a Israeli government official go despite being a sex offender? Pretty based Republicans protecting the kids.
>>719419163
>>719436172Australia is literally Karen-country. I really wonder how the fuck you got there.
>>719428486>people who play GTA are NOT mass murderersIs that why GTA is popular in US and most mass shootings happen in US?
>bunch of feminists don't give a fuck about real abuse>or roblox grooming>or migrant rape gangsonce again, an eternal proof that no one hates women like other women
>>719436415The whole "she'll be right don't worry about it mate" works fine only until you get to a situation where it won't be alright unless you worry about it a bit.
>>719436480Video games do play a role in the normalization of violence but it's just one small symptom of a bigger societal push in America that violence is the answer to all your problems. Kids are raised from birth believing shooting and killing people is always an option, no matter the problem. Just look at how bloodthirsty the average American is over minor inconveniences; they'd sooner kill someone than come to terms with finding alternative solutions, simply because violence is omnipresent and reinforced in every aspect of everyday life
>>719417919And the videogames they wanted removed are japanese so what's your point?
>>719412209Forget government-mandated girlfriends. Women need government-mandated husbands that marry and impregnate them the moment they turn 16 to prevent them from growing into bitter old hags. The old-timers had it right: a woman who isn't at home raising a kid is a woman who's up to no good.
>>719424181I can't intrepret your paragraph very well.Do you mean to say this ID push is making you suspecious of voter ID laws?
>>719418878>>everyone in america is a jewyes
>>719424671>Why does /v/terminal contrarianismsame as it ever was
>>719431413So does this work in-tandem with older studies that show violent games actually reduces chances of violent nature (presumably by giving them an outlet) or against it? Haven't read up on them in forever.
>>719434757>Weren't they supposed to be cool outdoorsmen who don't give a fuck?you mean how they were depicted in 1 movie 40 years ago that was used by the Australian Department of Tourism to scam americans into investing in australia?fucking stupid seppo.
>>719412209They won. You lost. You won't do shit.
>>719437293>does something>gets banned/ridiculed/oustedyeah nah, you're censoring your opposition too much.
>>719436653It's also happening in Russia, Middle East with Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. What does GTA promote? Killing your enemies with guns. Russia, Hezbollah and Hamas has been killing innocent people using guns. We need to take moral action against violent games to stop making people believe that killing is the best solution.
>>719435479>nowlove how america doesnt know anything about australia before 1986, then watches 1 movie(that is massively exaggerated) then doesnt learn anything else from 1986 to 2020 and is FLABBERGASTED to find it was all a (((lie)))
>>719436634>unless you worry about it a bit.which turns "she'll be right don't worry about it mate" to "yeh nah shits fucked cunt, but i cant be fucked fixing it" to "i'll be dead before it affects me"
>>719412209So let's say they fall, and their sponsors at Project 2025 fallHow to prevent them or whoever's next from doing this again? Or just a neverending thing?
I'm outraged! Not going to do anything about it btw, at best I'll set my pfp to clippy.
>>719437778not like anyone can do anything about it, spamming calls to mastercard did nothing and everyone got bored
>>719437682>>719423193
>>719437682it's a never ending thing. These people won't stop until they achieve their goals and each failure is a learning opportunity. It's always the same process; small incremental steps usually aimed at some "degenerate" group then a big swing power grab. It's why you have to nip it at the bud every time it pops up but most people are too distracted and/or shortsighted to catch on before the big swing
>>719437778like 20 years ago retards would group up and march for any reason, what changed?
>>719438132Popularization of social media made people docile and more dependent on social validation than ever before.
>>719438132the media figured out they can call anything a "terrorist alt right group" and win instantly
>>719437682You can do preventive measures, but ultimately, you can't stop it from happening again, it's an endless cycle because you'll always have a power hungry faggot abusing the system to have control over everyone.
>>719418869Jack thompson was a democrat
>>719438664So was Donald Trump...
>>719434757I'm not sure there's a nation on Earth with a bigger incongruence between their image as laid back chill masculine independent cool dudes and their actual faggot nanny state cuck policies
>>719418596Reminder that ALL colorbrained side homos are paid actors to stop you from fucking FINALLY putting your differences aside and forming a bond with your fellow citizens against those who are actually hurting you.
>>719412209I honestly wish I could abuse the person writing that shit in real life, but I'm willing to settle for doing it in a videogame. Barring that though, who knows?
>>719412209Sounds like someone just volunteered to be introduced to sydney and melbournes 'diverse cultural make up'...
>It's actually Project 202
>>719416490The eastern atates of australia actually.Collective shout are faggottarded city dwelling liberal progessive parasite karens in Sydney and Melbourne. Nuke those two cities. Please. You will be doing australia a favour. And the world. But most importantly, the usa a favour
>>719416490my sides xD
>>719439357No, project 2025, not 202. Vought provided funding.
>>719437682I know you are desperate to cement a narrative but holy fuck man at least invent a fake paper trail.
i can't be the only one who notices how all of these threads get intentionally derailed by partisan bullshit as a scapegoat for the payment processors and feminist hags responsiblefuck man. 4chan really is just a honeypot
>>719439482?
>>719412503So every game should be Mario, sounds boring, youre a faggot >>719428486Nah
>>719416787This is the point. Women not only want CHAD's money and time, HIS attention, they EXPLICITLY demand betafaggot's attention and money, NOT getting to reject betafaggot simpy boy after he buys her her tenth 50 usd+ meal out on a 'date' (free dinner for her) is an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to these fucking parasites.It is why the vagina people are so pissed off they have finally noticed men just refuse to 'date' them.
>>719412209What do karens like this like? What do we need to ban to fuck with them?
>>719412503Might as well pre-emptively remove yourself from this world anon.If we're going by extremes, humanity possesses evil therefore everyone must die.
>>719414704If you play the parasocial game right you can have your own cult of personality within two years.
>>719412503>ALL evil must be removed from our world.that's LITERALLY how you achieve more evil, cause only an evil actor would want to impose their view of what is evil onto the entire world>inb4 that makes no senseit does when you realize what you consider normal and just is the literal definition of evil for other people>inb4 i know what is evil/evil is objective/i know bestassuming your morals are above the ones of others and/or that you and your morals are the only true and acceptable guides for what is considered evil is the first and most common trait of someone evilonce you realize and accept this, you'll see how even the sole idea of what you said in your post actively increased the level of evil in the world
>>719439595If they get banned Project 2025 just funds a different group.
>>719414731>I've had women ask me for CNCHold the fuck up
>>719418596>taking away the bread and circus while not replacing them with anything to offset the cravingsI'm sure this won't blow up in their faces.
>>719439545Please show a sponsorship link between the American boogeyman and the Australian boogeyman. Any link. Just one.
>>719419163Didn't knew Haas was involved in industrial machinery, neat
>>719438046It's all so tiring
>>719418307>>719418295Please remember australia has not GOT a left/right political dichotomy.Australia has a 'left' party that are heavily suborned by outright ccp agents and wannabe commie overlords, 'labor'.Australia has a 'right' party that are left-wing autocrats just openly bragging about being fascists instead of commies in their platforms for election, the 'liberal's.NO australian party is for small government, gun rights, deregulation and reduced government dick raping your ass.Both parties are just different flavours of ass rapists.
>>719439545There's a concentrated effort to continue to sow division and get people back into being tribal fools.Anytime anyone points out Russel Vought and Project 2025, like clockwork some "people" appear out of nowhere to try to get everyone to not unite and instead revert back into in-fighting.It's very predictable.
>>719439481>Karla Reyes has connections not just with BIG people at VISA and Mastercard, but Former Politicians that worked with President Obama.
>>719439914>failure to partake in this system equates to you having your money stolenGrim
>>719439956You're halfway there, anon. You ALMOST got it.Now look into Russel Vought and Project 2025.
>>719439696it's just a roleplay fantasy
>>719412503You're assuming killing women and children is evil and not a necessity.
>>719440045Link them, retard. They paid you to shill their message, do it effectively.
>>719417994>>719417919Collective Shout’s got cash flowing from Christcuck crews, pushing their anti-porn, anti-sexploitation agenda while waving the feminist flag to dodge the Bible-thumper label.
>>719428486>Community ApproachLolicons have a strong in-group/out-group mentality because they are constantly under siege from outsiders, you included.It's as simple as that. They didn't really develop those tendencies until the late 10s and 20s when loli-bashing and witch-hunting became normalized on Xitter and other social media spaces combined with constant calls from normalfags to sanitize their favorite things of all elements that appeal to them (or just outright ban them).
>>719440132And you just lost it. Fell right back into tribalism rather than face on you've been duped by the propaganda.I'll give you a hint. If a lefty group will do this AND a righty group will do this, and you can't really depend on either of them, then.....
>>719440057So long as she playing Brack Rotus it doesn't sound that bad I suppose. The last thing that you'd want is your throat getting drained in the name of Kane.
>>719436415UK nanny state conservatism boomers and self righteous university liberals that are the same tier of condescending authoritarian as the boomers who are so mad at the boomers they're incapable of the self reflection required to see they are just as bad even though their politics are opposed.Basically each side stupidly votes for greater encroachment on the expression of people they disagree with. Without a hint of irony that those same restrictions apply to them, and will be enforced when the opposing political view gains momentum during pushback.They naively think that expanded powers will never be abused by themselves. Even though in every instance; they either are abused, or the people not abusing them get replaced by people that will...Plus the media here intentionally keeps people ignorant about who is actually abusing process so long as the media profits.
>>719440242Man I just want a paper trail between a group of Aussie feminists and an American think tank. I have no delusions of directionalism being my savior.
>>719440132read the thread moronyou do this every time your bosses pay you to shill here and pretend you never saw it, as soon as people start noticing shit.bump limit reached, so pointless at this point, but at least you didn't fool anyone this time shilldivide and conquer.
>>719414704Do you have a vagina?
>>719440327>I have no delusions of directionalism being my savior.Stop noticing the patterns bro
>>719440242>>719440337>No actual argument, resorting to calling people shills
>>719440337I have, you made the claim like a dozen times then linked the video you always link. I need a paper trail, I need a connection, I don't need some democrat forum slider doing the "Repeat it until they believe you" tactic.
>>719440242I don't think they were speaking in good faith. I think it was one of the shills trying to divide everyone up all over again
>>719412209>>719412503Whilst I see no reason to cry for what has been lost, I dislike this for using an argument that would deserve the removing of any game that has you act out, or depicts>violence>murder>gambling>anti-social behavior>war>authoritarianism>nazis>animal abuse (pokemon, lole)>drugs (including legal ones)>alcohol>bullyingand so on and so forthNone of these are any different to the sexual objectification of fictional women argument, so the answer is it was never about the women, it was about money.
>>719440384The only pattern I notice is that whenever someone gets into power over me they invariably curtail my rights.
>>719440156kino
>>719440337They're not being genuine. No point in try to convince shills. They don't want anyone to notice, and they will project their daddies as soon as project 2025 or Vought is brought upCould put it on a bingo card at this point
>>719440547Paper trail, link, anything, anything at all? Anything other than you repeating it every thread?
>>719440478reeee stop noticing, get back into your tribe and fight each other! this never repeats no matter who is in charge, and project 2025 totally doesn't exist right now!
>>719440327There already is with collective shout. There's links to advisory members of government, conservative groups who've pushed pro-life/pro-censorship, religious expression laws that provide loopholes for prejudicial behaviour. Plus they're heavily involved with US conservative PACs who do the same thing there.
I'm starting to see what some anons are meaning about the distraction thing.
>>719440325The problem entirely arises from the education culture of societal studies and political subjects.I'm not from the UK, but I remember going to college and noticed a lot of hardcore politics-nerds, both men and women, who had a clear instinct to make decisions for everybody but themselves, and wanted to be career politicians or prime ministers and weren't shy about that.It's very obvious to me, as much as everybody wants it to be a "boomer" issue, that it's rather a problem we're seeing because TV ruined the politician, and today's retards are all people who watched the John F. Kennedies and the Tony Blairs on TV as kids and view the politician thing as a place of privilege and celebrity culture.They all enter politics, and get to high places without a sense of actually making realpolitik. They're all making dumbfounding decisions based on childish assumptions about how people who are not themselves act and think.
>>719440616I still don't think a bunch of Americans are funding an Aussie feminist activist group, and if you have proof otherwise I'm still waiting.
>>719430585>woman's fantasy>shitty waitress job>"I'm a dirty fake feminist">"I, a hot, strong, financially successful male chose you over all the other more attractive and principled women">dicksdicksdicksdicks
>>719440687Idk about "americans" but stuff like this raises an eyebrow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4psBTp6CVkAlthough this video reads like a pro israeli psy-op, which is just kinda more perfect.
at the end of the day the glowie shills still win, even if they hadn't convinced anyone of their narrative spinthey scapegoated for the visa and mastercard hard enough to derail the thread, tardwrangle some anons, and chase off the lurkers
>>719440649And the crazy thing is, everyone keeps also pointing out that this happens with either side, but the project 2025 shills still dont' want anyone talking about it.Hell, Hillary Clinton's campaign literally helped Trump's campaign because her team thought it would help their goals by giving her "an easy opponent" to beat (which flew into their face hard)It's not even unique to Project 2025, people will help or fund a group they wouldn't typically if it futhers their own personal goals all the time
>proof posted every thread>"I don't see the proof">post proof again>"I don't see the proof"Is that the only trick in teh shills' playbook? They honestly think this fools anyone?
>>719439521It's obviously same Redditors spamming these threads using the payment processor bullshit as gateway into accepting trannies, notice how none of them say slurs.
>>719440686>They all enter politics, and get to high places without a sense of actually making realpolitik. They're all making dumbfounding decisions based on childish assumptions about how people who are not themselves act and think.I'm confused, are you saying "Always was" or are you saying previous politicians used to know what they were doing?
>>719440902>no slurs in posthmm...
>>719440870So in lieu of posting proof, you instead repeatedly claim it was already posted? Well, post it again for posterity and new lurkers, fag.
>>719437470The logical conclusion is that society, and therefore the states that control said societies, are ultimately responsible for whatever proclivities emerge from the masses. Violence makes the world go round just like money; they go hand in hand. For anything to change you can't just try banning X thing because the media is already controlled by the people who want to push certain beliefs and principles, which means you're just aimlessly cutting off the heads of a multifaceted serpent that just regrows them anyways. TL;DR: Video games are not the problem, it's the fault of governments and essentially the world as a whole, because violence is exported culturally just like any other good or service is.
>>719440902they're glowies. in another thread one of them subtly admitted to working for the feds to gain credibility in some random argument over economics
>>719440902 It's always the same playbook-start with "think of the children" or "muh credit card companies" and end up pushing Reddit-tier moralizing. You can spot them a mile away, too squeaky clean, too passive-aggressively smug, and never slip up with even a single slur. It’s like watching an algorithm try to blend in with actual anons.
>>719429234They want to turn America into a Russia 2.0 where the people are miserable and broken to the point they just take however the government and billionaire class do to them.Notice how they're intentionally raising prices for everything so you can no longer afford entertainment.
>>719441176One day people will realize it's a never ending battle and horseshoe theory is a real thing, and simply picking X party will not fix it. have to be ever vigilant
>>719441173>getting paid to shitpostWhat a time to be alive
>>719440686Not everyone wants to make it a "boomer issue", but pretending like there's no influx of out of touch older sorts doing the same thing as the post uni self righteous sorts is pretty naive. Especially as they set the groundwork for the political environment that's currently festered into what we have now.
>>719441173i have expect bots are at play. it's usual a solid distinct time frame where there's a sudden attempt to switch the thread up into tribal politics, before it goes back to normal.the p-20-25 thing might be an actual keyword possibly
>>719441276and so what is the solution?
there are no conservatives in the western world, all political parties serve the same ultra-far left globohomo tikkun olam world communism delusion. voting changes nothing. the most important and defining characteristic of a "Nation" is the race of the people living there, the natives who have inhabited that land and developed their culture over many generations. if anyone was actually "conservative" they would conserve the "Nation". but all Western countries have been turned into rootless economic zones, white people are systematically ethnically cleansed from cities by mass immigration, culture is destroyed and warped into mentally retarded gangsterism by the foreigners.of course, the uniparty govcorpos that hide behind "democracy" are taking your freedoms away. they think it's funny that they got you hooked on obscene propaganda pornography and are taking it away, and the sheep bleat for their poison drip-feed to resume.
>>719441486>bot responselinked above. again.as it's been linked several times. you don't just "vote a person" and expect things to get fixed. actively need to get involved and contact your representatives especially if you're more prone to agree with them because you happen to generally choose their party. they don't actually care about any of us, but enough pressure will move them to fight for what they're pressured into if they think it might affect their own power.
>>719441460>no use of racial slurs>coordinated bombardment and misdirection>right when the thread is about to dieInterdasting
>where is it>ignores post>where is itI actually think it IS a not shit bot at this point holy crap
>>719441701>points out no racial slurs while using no racial slursinteresting. very interesting. almost... attempting to distract levels of intersting
>>719441825We must stop noticing the patterns.
>>719441956Indeed. If someone makes a good point, make a stupid distraction that is obviously bullshit while not actually following the rules of their made up distraction
>>719441685>you don't just "vote a person" and expect things to get fixed.Similarly, contacting representatives and trying to organize via similar avenues are about as useless. Neither ballot boxes or "representatives" can ever truly represent the masses or you as an individual. Just think: how many people do you think have already tried doing this exact thing, talking to their local politicians and such, trying to convince them to campaign against the oncoming mass censorship and worse? Plenty have. And what's happened? Nothing. It will go through no matter what unless something more drastic happens.
>>719441956that's why they keep trying to re-divide everyone whenever 20 25 is brought up, yeah
>>719442228It's a first step. People aren't even doing that. They're just making posts on X (or /v/) pretending that theyr'e doing something.If people dont' even do the first step, you don't really move onto anything else.
>>719442228>confide in your local talking head>laughs in your face while he takes bribes from external sources padding out his own life in the processAnd they wonder why the voter turnout dropped below 60% across the district.
