PAYVOICE ACTORSWHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH
Nothing. Sounds good to me
PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE
>pays nobody and just listens to blips and bips as text comes across the screen
>>719423446His nose doesn't look like that.
>working on a 4 map mini campaign for a half-life for mapping jam>guy in discord asks me if i want some custom music for it after posting some progress>says he wants to get into making music for games>send him some samples of what mood i'm going for >check in with him a week later (a week before deadline)>he says he hasn't started because we haven't discussed pay yet>pay. for a fucking throwaway map jam. when i've done all the mapping, scripting, arting, design, story and even voice acting>ask him if he's joking and he says no, artists deserve to be paid for their worki hate 'artists' with every fiber of my being. the entitlement is astounding.
>>719423774I would rather pay for this guy to have Ozempic than pay for abortions in Israel.
>>719423446nigga looks like a pikmin character
>>719424107I unironically agree, I just find the pic funny
>>719424054The past part is>wants to get into making music>hasn't done so already>STILL expects pay for voluntary work on a modding jamCan't make this shit up.
>>719424054The thing that bothers me is that if he OFFERED initially, why didn't he bother to bring up the price of his music then? Why not lead with the expectation that your work/time is valuable to you and you want compensation?You didn't seek him out for music, free or otherwise, he offered.
>>719423446I'd like to but minimum wage laws prevent this
>>719423446Fine, you win. Here's your check for 0 dollars. Ugly fag.
>>719423446You know, I don't mind voice actors making a lot of money. There are a lot of star level VAs in japan making huge bank. You know why they're making that dosh? Because they're so good they're pulling an audience. Meanwhile the talentless hacks who say this type of bullshit, are requesting the same treatment without offering the same benefit to the product. You're paid what you're able to negotiate, now argue your case to your employer instead of screaming at retards on the internet or shut your third grade VA performance ass up and sit the fuck down.
>>719423774Mental how he went from a loved youtuber to one of the most hated people on the internet
>>719424054>artists deserve to be paid for their workI pray you pointed out the irony that he's done no work so he gets paid nothing.
>>719423446I do. $0.00
As someone who isn't American, I feel sorry for American children being forced to listen to their dogshit dubs.
>>719423446I've never paid a voice actor anything, so I've been already doing that all my life.
>>719423716>>719423867>>719424358>>719424471>>719424861>>719424886Fucking economic terrorist CHUDS
>>719424718I spent all my early 20's making music events and bringing artists from all over the world to my city.A thing that you will always see with local artists is that they are always raving about "supporting local artists" and "muh local scene" and shit like that.What the actually mean is "SUPPORT ME, ME, ME, ME!!!". Most of them are dogshit and they fail, of course. But the most psychopathic of the bunch will spend most of their time putting up with this supporting artists facade, infecting grassroots communities and then the moment they get success they abandon everyone who supported them.
>pay 300 for an art commission>takes weeks>I have to spend hours critiquing it and explaining what I want over and over>finally get it and I'm just fucking tired>turns out I could have paid for a year's worth of AI for that much, had unlimited image generation, and it would have been as good or betterHonestly I don't like AI, but damn. I have really bad luck with art commissions. The solution is probably to tax AI heavily and use it to fund proper art academies.
>>719423446This guy is the reason why I started checking VAs for the games I'm about to play. So I can decide if I'm buying the game or pirating.
I thought this was the guy who made his entire personality into being the ancillary voice in a secondary market for Kiriyu.
>>719424718Japanese VAs are crazy good at what they do and extremely professional, too. The fanbooks for Ascendance of a Bookworm have stories from the author about working with VAs for the drama cds, and the VAs come into a professional studio, there's a director, they memorize lines, actually act, change their voice based on feedback, and they're working full schedules all day every day. It's nuts. They deserve to be paid more honestly.in the porn audio scene you got VAs putting out 1-2 hours of audio a week, some are almost doing that much per day. It's insane. And some of them are good enough to actually bother learning the moonrunes in their nameWestern VAs are so trash in comparison.
>>719423446Say what you will this nigga made some great sketches back in the day.
>>719424718>>719425713That's also discounting all of the fan events, and promotions and internet radios they are obligated to do as well. And the mid to upper level ones are working on multiple projects at a time.
>>719425828True. I really wish he hadn't fallen off so hard. The whininess plus "eating every kind of kitkat" videos were just so lame. Unironically got me to unsubscribe I was tired of seeing shit in my feed.
I would rather have AI voices than youtubers or trannies.
>>719425253Tale as old as time. When you don't have shit, you have to play ball and act like you're buddy buddy with all of your competition because you need to convince everyone that your group is useful and if you go out of line they'll put you down. When you're on top, you obviously don't need to play by their rules anymore, so you just do your thing and stop trying to appease all the losers but in the process become an insufferable faggot that looks down on anyone who didn't make it.
>>719423446Are these threads made by someone jealous of this guy out of ALL voice actors
>>719424873the entire english va scene is so fucked. in the beginning it was like the same 12 people that fucking sucked at it and treated everything as an over the top saturday morning cartoon. they only got the roles because no studios in the west cared about anime. once they became "established" they did everything they could to keep actually talented people out. But now its why english dubs have a very distinct over the top anime voice.Then frieren came out, where these same retards still dont understand acting and cant differentiate soft spoken or deliberately spoken characters with EVERYTHING must be spokent S L O W and M O N O T O N E.I hate english voice actors so much its unreal. In games it used to be kinda decent for a while, but ever since anime started to get popular in the west mainstream everything is shit, because once again it uses the same handful of retards or people who mistakenly think you have to sound and "act" like those retards to get the part.
>>719423446No
>>719425713*american VAsfixed :^)British and German VAs are great because they are all theatre actors
>>719426806I think it's more about how American dubbing scene is a large cabal of ideologically charged talentless hacks who were smug about raping media with their shitty material and now they are all crying about it because AI has killed their grift.I don't know this ugly fag but I assume he's the most vocal one about it or since he's a chink I assume he was one of those "you can only do racially accurate VA" fags.
Americans dont want to become actors, they want to voice a specific character
>>719424759>loved youtuber to one of the most hated people on the internetThat title goes to h3h3.
>>719424107I would pay for abortions in Israel.
>I EARNED KIRYU
>>719423446Localizers and English VAs should be replaced by AI.
>/v/, /tv/, /a/, and /co/ when anyone pays voice actors anythingWHY its SUCH an easy job, anyone in the entire world could do it, including me, its just talking into a mic. EZ>also /v/, /tv/, /a/, and /co/ when there are multiple dubbing optionsOh, clearly the JP voices are SO much better if you ever EVER even THINK about using anything other then JP voices you are fucking retarded because the voice acting is basically the best acting ever. Make it make sense. You can't have BOTH of these opinions and it makes sense. But yet, most of you do. Either voice acting can be good and worth paying someone to do, or its not. Simple as.
>>719428971>Making people up to argue against