What went wrong?
>>719426812forced co-op, retarded sale expectations from eathe schizo dynamic where one player sees something the other doesnt was genuinely kino though
>trying to surpass one of the greatest sequels to one of the greatest originals in gaming history PERIODDOA.
>>719427025>one of the greatest sequels to one of the greatest originals in gaming history PERIODholy zoomer
>the moment you enter Ishimura in 2, the whispers return>all the known places now wrapped up containment material>the fucking blacklight section in medical bay>returning to medical bay to begin with a THIRD TIME as a running joke because of how frightening it wasLiteral 11/0 kino. Holy shit. Game devs were based as fuck back then.
>>719427101Im sorry your RE4 demake threads have no legs, lol
>>719427279>its schizo as wellgrim
Sex with Kendra to make necro babies.
>>719427348Are you aware of the irony of your post in a Dead Space thread?
>>719427426you should look up what irony means because it looks like you have no clue, but im glad you found schizo representation. trannies also choose their favourite games based on representation so this is completely normal
>>719426812>co-op focus in a SP horror franchise>big empty open world>human enemies instead of monsters>straight action shooter, even moreso than 2>decent idea with the weapon customization made shitty by microtransactionsIt was truly a product of its time. Dead Space 3 has all the hallmarks that that era of video games was known for and that was its biggest failure. I swear to god they had forgotten what the game was actually about when they made 3.
>>719427541>it still goes completely over his headWe got a live one, guys.
>>719427765let me know what the voices in your head say lil man
>>719427567EA. Nuff said.
>>719426812>THE GAME YOUR MOM WILL HATEea.
>>719427834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38AbxFr8vY
>>719427541>*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPT* *brapt brapt* ... *pfft*nice argument
>>719427541OHHNONONONON, the air is getting thin for you buddy.
>>719426812People got bored. It's the same as 2, slightly goofier but longer. It still has horror elements especially in side missions. Also it has the sweet spot for difficulty. Every necro got buff except Leaper which was insane in 2. New necros were cool, too bad Remake didn't get them.
looks like i buckbroke the zoomer and it started samefagging :DD many such cases
>>719426812it felt more like an action shooter that EA hamstringed with retarded microtransactions to siphon money from the millions of players they thought would buy it.The horror atmostphere wasn't there as much as as DS1, or even 2. It's a shame because an artic world like that is perfect for horror and feelings of isolation. Some of the stuff shown was neat, like the necromorphs from the original colony that spawned from starving survivors eating necromorph flesh. The new gun system was neat, but partly felt designed to goad people into spending money on microtransactions, and because of that it ruined the balance of the old system.The plot was really dumb at parts.Sometimes I wonder if action horror games becoming more action and less horror over time is inevitable as you tend to get less scared with repeated exposure. Only so many times a zombie can jump scare you, and if you are armed to the teeth, then you're not really worried.
>>719427906jfc is EA run by actual retards that are that detached from reality and have an inflated ego on top of it?
it didnt take place on a space ship or space platform and it was lost planet 3 instead
>>719426812I liked it. But besides the obvious EA meddling, I thought the gun customization and love triangle were both stupid and unnecessary. A giant unstoppable moon being the final boss was cool. The revelation that it was just a child was even cooler.
I love DS2 like you wouldnt believe. Its the most quintessential third person tentpole horror action game ever created.
The game just gets boring. I don't really know what it is, but I always get to the part where you get to the plant's surface and I can't force myself to play any longer. Maybe it's just the story being shitty, the or the ships prior being visually uninteresting that all contribute to it. I hate the stupid fucking resource gathering robot shit. I hate the universal ammo. I hate the weapon crafting and hunting for better gun stats in a horror shooter. They lost the using power tools to kill things and it's just uninteresting gun parts now.
>>719428192Who are you quoting?
>>719428323>Ignore Dead Space remake>Think it's cool that it's back though because that means Dead Space 2 will also get a remake, hell yeah>EA cancels itDa fuck
>>719428274you would be surprised at how many higher ups in companies have 0 idea on how anything below them works.
>>719428274ALL large corporations are. Without fail. You'll learn when you grow up.
>>719426812https://youtu.be/YeR4tGlXoZ4?si=jS2kHFegDCQRoG6v
>>719428192I'm not the anon you were arguing with but you sound gay as fuck, dude. Imagine getting so mad about misunderstanding irony that you seethe like this. Shut the fuck up.
>>719428452I can't imagine the remake sold enough to make EA happy
>>719428452DS1 and 2 in 4k shit all over modern games. Thats why art direction is more important than the newest saaaar slop engine.
>>719428452Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
it just keeps on going :DD holy fuck the SEETHE, watch out for your blood pressure lil man
>>719428457Not only tech, higher ups IN GENERAL.
>>719428274I live in Kirkland WA, where EA is stationed. The answer is yes. It's endemic to literally every tech company. Half your job is just surviving the retardation of clueless new managers who got hired in by their friend they met at some fucking middle manager convention retreat bullshit.
>>719428452Demake is trash. Completely ruins major parts of the original>Isaac talking>major lore dumps in marvel-esque dialogues>completely altered plot points like Kendra being revealed as the shooter before killing KyneAnd of course the woke checklist.
>>719428274EA = EarthGovIronic, isnt it?
>>719428720>Isaac talkingOh that's retarded. Glad I skipped it lol. Cronos looks like the protagonist may be a mute and I hope that's the case.
>>719428720>>Isaac talkingHe talks when spoken to, which is fine. He doesn't say to himself what he needs to go and where to go.
>>719428720Isaac talking could be fine, depending on how they write his dialogue. I heard they had everyone swear a lot, which makes sense, but also sounds dumb, if it is true.stuff like "Fuck you and fuck your marker" has a lot more impact if the character doesn't swear a lot.
>>719428918>>719429064>>719429201It works in 2, because its a natural progression of more and more for a sequel. Bit in 1? Fuck no. Isaac needs to be mute, thats half of the charm of the overall sound design.
>>719428918>>719429064>>719429201Ever heard of the term "Strong, silent type"? A trope zoomers could learn a thing or two from. Shut up, if you dont have anything meaningful to add and let your deeds speak for you.This also goes for women, heh
>>719429484>Reddit spacing
>>719429379>sound designIt's wild how nice the sound design is in DS1, and 2.I'm replaying DS2 and just the various ways they use sounds to put you on edge and make you feel exposed or surrounded is well done. not a lot of horror games seem to nail that aspect as well, but it can really make or break an experience.
>>719429484>Ever heard of the term "Strong, silent type"?Yes, and it's stupid. Try being a silent protagonist in real life. Everyone will hate you for it and think you're a weirdo.
>>719429484The strong, silent type? Like Gary Cooper?
The weirdest thing about 2 is that long early Unitology chapter. Every other chapter flows effortlessly but the loooong sidetrack in the church is weird. Its cool, but also overstays its welcome a bit. The cryo pods are cool, though.
>>719428918Silent protagonists are almost always gay. A obsolete relic from the 2D era that clung onto gaming well past its welcome like a sticky shit. I’m glad the trope has finally died out
>>719429690>It's stupid in real lifeWell yeah>In videogames?It's kino. Games with mute protagonists always have great atmospheric audio. Ocarina of Time, Hollow Knight, Dead Space. Shut your protagonist up and let the ambience wash over you.
Miss me yet?
>>719429996>if your protagonist talks, that MUST mean he talks to himselfRetard
>>719429989>>719429690You fucking morons. YOU are the character. YOU! The character shouldn't speak, because you dont talk to your monitor. Thats the entire point. Everything around you interacts with YOU. You dont talk back. Retards.
>>719430113>Retard calls others retard after making retarded shit up in his headlmao, where did I say they were talking to themselves? I just said mute characters in games are cool.
>>719430179>Shut your protagonist up and let the ambience wash over you.You’re acting like having a protagonist that talks is mutually exclusive with the ambience, which is a nonsensical strawman
>>719430296>You're acting like>I'm assuming this>I'm retarded becauseAh, a spirited illiterate. Keep on, retard. Or be like a mute protagonist and shut the fuck up you dumb whiny faggot lmao.
>>719430134>character talks to the protagonist>the protagonist stares silently like a downie>character moves on like it’s normalIf this doesn’t instantly shatter your immersion, it’s because you’re autistic and your imagination is too strong for your own good. Get some standards. Stop making excuses for laziness
>>719426812Story was crap. Guns felt kinda shitCoop was fun. The locations/art were great
>>719429690>>719429989>>719429996>>719429601>Oh shit, here they come...the NECROS! Better reload, oh shit oh shit oh SHIT, TAKE THAT YOU FREAKS>HOLY SHIT i did it! Better haul back to Ellie....shes kinda cute. Heh, maybe if all of this is over i can....nah, compose yourself Isaac. You have a MISSION!>Wait, where am i? Oh right, i have to get to engineering. Lets also check my Inventory™ by pressing Y™ on my XBOX Elite Gamepad™So much better, eh?
>>719426812Corpo meddling went wrong obviously. EA trying to turn every even slightly succesful game into a cashcow mega franchise, instead of letting them be good in their own niches.
>>719430413>he says, whining about the remake like a little bitch
>>719426812they tried to turn the game into gears of war.the DLC gives us a glimpse of what DS3 could have been, and a terrible (in the cool sense) ending.
>>719426937>retarded sale expectations from eaThey thought themselves: if ds2 sells x, then ds3 (=ds2+coop) will sell 9x. We are omg such geniuesis. >forced co-op/thread
>>719430414>Dark Souls>Lies of P>Sekiro>Elden Ring>Astro Bot>Hollow Knight>Dead SpaceDon't know man seems like there's plenty of fun games with mutes and you're just a salty bitch about it.
>>719430439Who are you quoting?
>>719430134Isaac doesn't look like me at all. How am I supposed to relate? When you're using a silent protagonist you need to specially design the dialogue. You can't have anyone ask the character any questions because they never respond. It leads to stupid one-sided monologues that break the immersion.
>>719430496>Whining about the remakeFeel free to point out where I ever whined about the remake. Actual post and quote, please, your illiteracy is a joy to behold.
>>719430542Sekiro talks, sweetie. Wich also adds to the game, because hes a one word kinda fella.
>>719427906don't blame vin diesel on this.dude's team did an amazing job with escape from butcher's bay.
>>719430439>So much better, eh?No, Like I said here >>719429064
>>719430542In all of those Soulslikes, your character talks. You even have dialogue options. It’s simply not voiced. Also Wolf isn’t mute you braindead retard, wtf??
>>719430606Youre getting worked up over nothing.
>>719430648Shit, he does? I don't remember that but I'll take your word for it. >Sweetiekek gay
>>719430414>it’s because you’re autistic and your imagination is too strong for your own goodall im reading is youre one of those npcs with no inner dialogue lmaowhat absolute cattle do you have to be to not be able to immerse yourself if the guy you play as doesnt speak
>>719430606>what is context
>>719430734>>719430778>No post>No quotesI accept your defeat, and offer you this plate of crow.
>>719426812I kind of like it when you finally get down to the planet and you're exploring the derelict research facilities.It has a great atmosphere at that point.But I find the first half of the game to be really tedious. The fact that you have a bunch of side quests that use copy pasted rooms didn't help.It's one of those games that I can see how everything about it sounds great on paper but the execution is just wrong.I think a remake that took the same basic concept and focused on it being a single player horror game would be kino.
>>719430763Yeah, just go ahead and imagine a good game while you’re at it. The gameplay is shit? With the power of imagination, you can pretend like it’s not shit! I wish us lowly NPCs had your incredible consoomer power
>necromorph pulls out a fucking gun>you have to shoot it in the head instead of dismembering itIt all went downhill from there
>>719429989>Silent protagonists are almost always gay
>>719430701>Your character talksEh. I'm pretty sure the context here is of characters having voiced dialogue. Otherwise you could say the Pokemon characters talk when asked if they're a boy or a girl.
>>719430869So you're fine with the addition of Isaac talking in the remake but you’re still arguing against it in principle because.. you’re retarded, I guess?
>game ends on a cliffhanger>dont worry guys, we'll finish the story in a DLC>DLC also ends on a cliffhanger
>>719430976>More retarded shit made up in his headBro what the fuck are you talking about, just quote whatever post you think is me so I can refute you you silly retard lol.
>The actual ending for Dead Space 3 is behind DLC
>>719431000´Franchise ends with Ellie in the twist joke ending of 2. No further explanation needed.
>>719431000>Game ends on a cliffhanger>dont worry guys, we'll finish the story in a DLC>DLC brutally mutilates the protagonist, leaves no hope of escape, and leaves him attached to meat hooks in spaceCallisto Protocol was based.
>>719430949My post, which you were replying to, said the problem with silent protagonists is the absurdity of characters acting like their muteness is normal. This isn’t a problem if they’re clearly speaking in-universe and they just don’t have a voice actor. There’s no issue there
>>719426812I'll tell you the one thing that went RIGHThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_wWlbASt-c
Altman be praised.That is all....
>>719431147>Still no fucking quote>Still no fucking link to a post>nooo broooo listen this is what you saiiiid the voices in my head told me sooooGawd damn. Can't just eat this delicious plate of crow, can you.
>>719431147>>719431248Oh shit I'm retarded, thought you were the other guy, sorry. >Acting like their muteness is normalWell it's not. It's a game. That's why I said in real life it's absolutely weird but in a game it's fine because it's... a game.
>>719430542Not saying there aren't good games, but mute character is more often a bad decision than a good one, but OK.
>>719431030>butts into conversation complaining about Isaac talking>”erm wtf I never gave my opinion on Isaac talking, schizo much??”Again, context. Our conversation doesn’t exist in a vacuum. WE, the thread, collectively, are discussing silent protagonists specifically in the context of Isaac Clarke in the Dead Space remake. Either you’re genuinely helplessly retarded and don’t know how 4chan threads work or you’re being disingenuous on purpose. Either way I’m not replying again. Feel free to have the final word
Did Issac get a hair transplant while being in a coma? kek
>>719431437dont forget the botox
Years later and people are still discussing these games Love to see it, shame the IP is owned by EA
>>719431437>handsome-fy MC>get him pigtailed turbo latina as gf20 years before GTA6, wtf
>>719431437The marker regrows hair folliclesThe hard part is only being around it long enough to regrow your hair and not go totally insane
>>719431393Depends on the game. If Nathan Drake was a mute that'd be hilarious and awkward, the game is far too bombastic. But when you have realtively somber, slower-paced worlds that are gradually being unraveled (OoT, HK, Elden Ring, OG Dark Space), I think it's fine. Also to be clear I have nothing against voiced protagonists, but doing a remake of OG Dead Space and ADDING dialogue to a famously former mute protagonist is a bad decision, in my opinion. It would be like remaking Jak and Daxter and giving Jak dialogue. Clashes with the original tone. Meanwhile in 2 Jak was a mean spirited shit talker and it worked well in that game.
>>719431531Its either that or RE or Silent Hill. The horror market is pretty thin.
It's baffling that a pretty good team like Visceral got the axe over this while Bioware has been allowed to fuck up for nearly 10 years. EA is somethin else.
>>719426812Dropped all pretense of horror to make it a co-op action shooter
Fuck me never have I seen a thread blow up this fast.
>>719431610Kind of like Finasteride, init?
>>719431418>Again, contextAgain, quote. You haven't even touched your crow yet.
DS1 (not the remake) and DS2 hold up amazingly well. I recently replayed them and I am always blown away at how good they both look especially DS1. I guess it's just what happens when you have a good lighting system.Also always surprised the only fix I need to do for DS1 is to turn vsync/framerate cap off and then use Radeon to cap it to 60 so the physics engine doesn't break itself.
>>719430892what the fuck does a mute protagonist have to do with gameplay you absolute schizoid lmaotake your meds you retarded ass bitch
>>719431115Thats also my headcanon.DS2 is a perfectly fine ending for Isaac and the franchise. 3 has no reason to exist.
>>719431636There are lots of horror games. You just need to dig a bit.
>>719428149Something about the necros always felt off to me in this game. Glad im not the only one who noticed. Its like they were all amped up on 5 lines of coke and shooting up meth before trying to kill Isaac
>>719431665Pisses me off, dude
>>719431836>he’s so retarded he doesn’t understand a basic analogyOh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was dealing with an actual sufferer of Down syndrome. I apologize for my earlier impatience
>>719431864Not at that level. Theres also a lot of soft drinks yet theres only Coke and Sprite.
>>719431987holy fucking retard :DD
>>719431864There’s lots of neat indie one-offs but you can count on one hand the number of gaming horror IPs with franchise staying power
>>719426812Having played it...Some pretty major bugs on release, some of them related to the co-op that could prevent all progression forwardThe game allows for co-op, which is good and bad. There are entire side sections of the game you will never see if you only play solo. Also many parts of the game have objects clearly designed for 2 people all over the place.Actual weapons gone for weapon crafting, with a micro-transaction based resource collection as well. DS3 was one of the first games to really try to embrace the loot box system.Story is a mixed bag as you find out all of Earthgov is just dead at the very start, but not before you find out that they put a Marker on every major human population center.Ended on a cliffhanger before the DLC ended it with all of Earth being consumed by Brother Moons.There was a lot of things wrong with it.
>haunts you forever
>>719426812 PC port had broken doors EA never bothered to fix.
>>719432120More like justifies buying the Detonator forever
>>719431995Eh, good graphics are overrated anyway. I would rather play Crow Country or Signalis than Resident Evil Village any day.
>>719431987>AnalogyAre you just throwing words around? That wasn't an analogy you fucking retard holy kek
>>719432165Which ones???
>>719432327>bad protagonist is ok because I can just pretend the protagonist is good in my head>bad gameplay is ok because I can just pretend the gameplay is good in my headI can’t make it any simpler for you, anon. I’m sorry. I can’t
>>719432165>>719432431https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NFta-zO2_M
>>719432431Most noticeable in the first levels, in space. The doors on the ships will constantly rattle while they are closed.
>>719432542>He's actually retarded and doesn't know how analogies work pfff ahahahahahahaha
>>719432632They're old ships. Sometimes they gonna do that.
>>719432646>is proven plainly wrong>doubles down and is trying to bend reality and change the definition of “analogy” in a pathetic attempt to save faceThis is Kafkaesque levels of absurdity. Just take the L you fucking loser, it’s a 4chan argument for God’s sake
>>719432829>Take the LProvide your own definition of analogy then clarify that with examples, so I can continue laughing at you. Also not the original anon you were arguing with, I only jumped in to make fun of you thinking your post was a "basic analogy" fucking lul.
>>719433390No, you provide your definition and example of an analogy. You’re the one harping on it, after all
>>719433538>>719433538It's taking two seemingly unalike elements that share a core similarity and comparing them to illustrate a point, for example: life is like a box of chocolates. You haven't made a single analogy, you dunce, you've made juxtapositions and flailed your arms around like a fucking retard lol. >>719430892>>719432542Neither one of these contains an analogy. Fucking dumbass loooooool.
>>719435103>It's taking two seemingly unalike elements that share a core similarity and comparing them to illustrate a point, Yeah, that’s exactly what I did, mouthbreather>juxtapositionYou literally, genuinely don’t know what that word means, if you think I used a fucking juxtaposition of all things. You HAVE to be ESL and deeply insecure about your linguistic shortcomings
>>719431630>Drake was a mute that'd be hilariousShould be used more often, the daft mute.
>>719431630>OG Dead Space and ADDING dialogue to a famously former mute protagonist is a bad decision100% shit
>>719435431>That's exactly what I didNo it's fucking not lmao, quote your own analogy for me. Like I already asked. >JuxtapositionRight here>>719432542Fuck you're dumb. Lmao keep going, I'm going to keep schooling your dopey ass.
>>719435842A juxtaposition is for contrast. An analogy is for comparison. I compared the two sentiments. “I can just imagine good gameplay” is obviously an absurd notion, so I used it to highlight the absurdity of using the same logic for a bad protagonist. That’s called an analogy. There is no juxtaposition because there is no contrast. Congratulations, you have now passed middle school English
>>719436115>An analogy is for comparisonNo it's not, stupid, analogy is for illustrating illusive points via comparison. Who the fuck taught you English? The post of yours that I quoted is a direct example of juxtaposition whether you intended it or not. Trying to teach you basic English is like trying to teach a retard to type. That's an analogy, btw.
>>719436315>illusiveAh fuck. Meant elusive. Not that you would have caught it, you fucking dumbass lol.
>>719432118How many times did you press the return key?
