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Who was in the right?
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raiden won through force by necessity, validating armstrongs beliefs but proving himself right by armstrongs metrics in the process
it's a paradox, in order to establish a world where power does not rule, one must stop those who would exploit peace via a rule of power
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>>719428416
IN THE END IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY
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>>719428416
Armstrong's conclusion was correct, but his statement and inferences were wrong. The only reason Armstrong is as individually powerful as he is, is because he has millions of nanomachines working together. So too could a society be powerful if everyone in it fought for the same causes.
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humble reminder that if Sam had a cyberized body he would have beaten both Raiden and Armstrong on his own
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>>719429910
and if he didn't have is super oc sword he wouldn't leave a dent
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>>719429910
That's implying a cyborg body would have been stronger than his regular body, which you can't prove would be the case
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>>719428416
They both had extremely similar ideals, Armstrong was just willing to see them enacted upon the world actively while Raiden was not and would rather react to the status quo
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>>719429910
if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bicycle
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>>719428416
Why does armstrong still wear corrective lenses when he has all high tier cybernetic augmentation?
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>>719428416
Raiden. Might makes right.
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>>719429910
Word of God said Sam could have beaten Armstrong with a fully human body if he wasn't arrogant and drew the battle out to exhaust Armstrong.

>>719428416
Armstrong is the usual authoritarian who claims he wants society to be everyone for themselves while he himself was given the silver spoon for his entire life meaning he's rigged the game so he'd be on top.
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>>719429910
He's strong BECAUSE he had a body of flesh and bone.
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>>719429910
Brazilian bodies are stronger than anything cybernetics can provide
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>>719431220
Being born with a silver spoon doesn't mean he rigged his plan to be on top automatically, that's a weird assumption.
He has ideals he wants to see through, if his plan had worked anyone could turn into a Raiden and dismantle his entire organization and kill him.
Not like he pussied out of fighting or dying either, he was all for it.
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>>719431220
Armstrong wants a society where war isn't fake and gay, where the Raidens of the world do have the chance to escape being a cog in a pointless machine
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>>719429910
No, Sam lost to Armstrong because Armstrong's convictions were stronger than Sam's, a stronger body would not have made any difference. Same with Raiden, Sam was doubting himself, he wasn't into the whole thing any more, so he lost because of his lack of mental fortitude to stick it out.
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>>719431456
>Being born with a silver spoon doesn't mean he rigged his plan to be on top automatically,
It greatly stacks the deck in his favor, since the average person is not getting NANOMACHINES like Armstrong.
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>>719431220
>he himself was given the silver spoon for his entire life
actually he went to university of texas
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>>719432048
Jetstream Sam was just a sword weeb with a dream and he *could* pack him up.
Neither Armstrong nor Raiden had strong arguments to defeat the other but like Armstrong said, Raiden DID make it out from the poorfag life to reach a similar level.



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