Why does everyone pretend Deadlock is woke?
>>719429942it's kind of "woke", but it's woke in a really conventional and boring way that most of the shit made even prior to 2014 was.
>>719429942Nobody is fucking saying that you brainwashed 10 year old
The only woke thing is the whole "nonbinary Pocket" thing. If it turns out to be a "literally two niggas" thing then even thats not really woke, but if hes just a weird singular they guy I'm not gonna be happy with Valve
>>719429942>Why does everyone pretend Deadlock is woke?Because butthurt TF2 thirdies on /v/ found out that Sweet Baby listed Valve as one of their clients on their website, despite not having any concrete evidence of them working on Deadlock.Also, they like to pick on Pocket a lot due to his bio referring to him as "They/Them", when it's just part of his lore that he wants his identity hidden, not because he's fucking non-binary.
>>719432121OP is exaggerating when he says everyone, but there's been a real number of people that have claimed the game is woke.
Mina owes me sex
>>719432525she owes me more than two kills beyond the laning phase, something Mina players dont seem capable of.All Mina players can do is farm, push lane, ult too late and die.Hey, that was a good kill, not that a Mina player would know
>>719429942back in 2020ish it was discovered that valve was listed as a client on sbi's website which led people to point to that as the singular source of truthvalve never listed them in any game they releasedsbi's current website today it no longer lists the clientsthe singular straw trolls have to deadlock being woke is pocket with the whole they them shit which is fucking retarded but outside of that it's nonexistent. It's only existent in the character bio iirc, valve could change it
Why is her hair white if she’s young?
Mina is strongBilly is very strongDoorman is very strongPaige is dogshitDrifter is overpoweredVictor is overpowered
>>719433578>Victor is overpowered>dies to a single item
>>719433578>Mina is strong>Billy is very strongIt's inverse in my experience.
Passed 300 hours today.
>>719433578>Mina is stronga good player will rip penises off in low ELOs with her, a bad one does nothing. Gooners are dogshit>Billy is very strongJust parry and buy rebuttal dipshit>Doorman is very strongcontrol/pickoff/teamfight menace character. raise the CD on the bell and he will be less egregious >Paige is dogshitHero is great, Gooners are dogshit>Drifter is overpoweredhe's blood seeker, he's going to over-perform in low ELOs. The biggest thing he does is make ranged heroes seethe when he ults.>Victor is overpoweredDont touch the stove and it wont burn your hand, do not chase victor out of base, do not start a teamfight opening on victor, do not stand in the aura, do not take the bait.
>>719433578>5 people are beating the absolute fuck out of Victor, takes 20 seconds to die>>719433714Please tell me which that shit was insane to watch
>>719435638toxic bullets, spirit burn, curse are the big ones. reducing his spirit resist in general is good against him because it means hes doing more damage to himself
>>719435638spirit burn/inhibitor/healbane take your fucking pick. People just turn their brains off in low mmr and autobuy whatever their build queues up and skip over all of the "counter, situational, optional" sections.
>>719435886>>719435913spirit burn and toxic are both shit because he just cleanses themhealbane is the only real counter, it does work great at least
>>719436154>cleanses themThe cleanse happens AFTER to self heal though, so it still helps a shitload. Plus it just fucking reapplies.
>>719436154>cleanses toxic bulletswhat do you just stop shooting people? just shoot him again nigga. cant cleanse curse either. if a victor is rushing level 3 inject then hes is severely lacking in other places anyway
i hate how it takes a coordinated effort to kill Victor. why should he autowin every 1v1?
>>719429942Because I personally told them to
>>719432432>>719432121When I first played it I assumed it was mostly because of Pocket always being called "they". Though some anon told me its because hes trying to stay hidden. Its kind of a dumb reason, but its really the only thing i can point to as woke now that I've actually spent some time playing.Anyway, how do I learn to not be a total shitter? Stomping bots doesn't quite do it for me, but neither does getting utterly shit stomped every time I leave the bot matches.My years of league knowledge isn't transferring as well as I'd like.
>>719437009I like Haze's character a lotShe's nice
>Doorman is broken, hes got a 2.4s stun!But what if I don't want to be a nigger and build echo? Why does this game balance feel so backwards? >Add a broken item to the game>It gets used>They nerf that hero insteadOk Yoshi
>>719429942if she looked like that in game it wouldnt be woke
>>719437009>FilenameKek
>>719437034Play some matches against bots on hard difficulty and then try your luck against real people. There's a bunch of new players right now so this is the best time to learn.
>>719432286his coat is sentient
>load up game>50% of the cast is niggersyep its woke
>>719437582I count 2 out of 33
>>719437475But isn't selecting bot difficulty only an option for private matches?I don't mind getting stomped sometimes, but man it sucks when my teams raging.I know its still not fully "released" but leagues different casual/mid/ranked queues were nice to avoid that.And yeah I figured its a good time to get back into it. I tried it ages ago it didn't click, but I am enjoying it more this time.
>>719432286Its just because his identity is supposed to be a secret. He faked his death awhile back, we as the audience know who he is but no one else is supposed to.
>>719437854Anon its set in Georgia
>>719437009Planes don't exist in Deadlock, just so everyone knows.
>>719437681>But isn't selecting bot difficulty only an option for private matches?Yeah, play against bots on hard difficulty to get better at the game/an idea of what you're supposed to be doing and then after doing a few games of that try your luck against real people.
>>719437995Is this true?
>>719437034Same way as most games; osmosis and practiceIf I was to recommend one piece of advice, it'd be to play a mobile and/or fast-clearing hero so you can switch between cleaning lanes and joining fights on a dime. Infernus and Seven are fantastic newb picks who can do both of those things with aplomb
deadlock looks so spastici didn't grow with shooters and was shit at mobas is this game for me?
>>719438034Yes, but it says private match, doesn't that mean i need 5 friends who also play?No one I know irl likes mobas lol
>>719437995Uh, you don't get to bring teammates
>>719438113no but actually yes because 80% of people playing this game don't know what they're doing
>>719438116>doesn't that mean i need 5 friends who also play?No, it just means you're not playing a public game against real people. You'll verse bots and they'll play better than they normally would.
>>719429942Whoa, there's a character that looks like that in game? Or even close to that in game? Or is there stuff that looks more like thia pic related Rosie the Riveter feminist hoe, because you are a disingenuous fanboy posting misleading off-model fan-art. Speaking of disingenuous, I wouldn't disingenuously call Deadlock "woke" because the whole thing is basically a gradient based on how many elements of wokie elements the game contains. While I will concede that Deadlock doesnt have enough to be called "woke" posting obnoxiously "Ummmmmm excuse me Chuddites. I thought you said this game was....le woke" just puts its actual fag elements under a magnifying lens. Unless you are just facetiously false flag posting. Who can tell anymore?
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>>719438340>they use airships instead powered by wind spiritsKino.>IxiaWhere the fuck is this place?
>>719438426It's another plane of existence where demons are from. Abrams and Infernus are Ixians.
>>719438426>>Ixia>Where the fuck is this place?It's an outer plane where the "demons" like Infernus and Abrams are from.
>>719429942i dont know how anyone with a straight face approved calico to be released in the gameshe the rochelle of deadlock
>>719438426I think Ixia is supposed to be literal hell.
>>719438252you've been baited. Deadlock thread OPs always have inflammatory culture war bullshit to draw in discussion
>>719438426>Where the fuck is this place?Ixia's the 52nd of these glorious United States of America, a demonic realm which was promptly and righteously annexed shortly after the Astral Gate leading to it was opened.
>>719438547ixians get to vote but viscous nor any other deep creature doesn't.........
>>719438340>52 states>takes place before Alaska and Hawaii became states
>>719438469>>719438476>>719438526>>719438547>America colonized hell and turned it into a stateWELL I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN
>>719438538Wow! Got my ass! Haha! But which thread is this not the case for?
>>719429942See >>719438523Didn't even know about the prosthetic limb.
>>719438663I literally just pinged Yoshi and asked about this. I hope he replies.
>>719438663>AlaskaI wonder if the ghost of Catherine the Great who is currently running the Soviet Empire is pissed about Alaska being sold off?
>>719438231Well whats "play co-op" mean then? Because thats what I've been using.
>>719438695Robot limbs are becoming such a cliche of character design. I would be fine if it never saw it again.
>>719432395>when it's just part of his lore that he wants his identity hidden, not because he's fucking non-binary.Yet for an unknown identity he wants to make his ownhe is the heir to an industry with a face he doesn't hide. and hiding our identity doesn't mean no one can't know you are male
Now that the dust has settled, what do we think?
>>719438663
>>719439665i think they have some catching up to do bringing some of the original cast up to the new level of quality
seven is cool i hope we get more seven lore
>>719439157All of the Baxter society members (Calico, Shiv, Grey Talon) have a prosthetic right arm. We don't really know why or if this is just a weird coincidence.
>>719439728they're also still using models and animations from neon prime
>>719439665Design/themes greatBilly, Doorman and Paige great ability designs all around.Drifter feels weird to play. Mina feels underpowered and ability wise is a bit all over the place. Victor is "run at you" non interactable gameplay. Like some Lone Druid spirit bear running at you, playing it is boring and being on the receiving end is kinda lame.
>>719438252All the>"I thought you said this game was....le woke"posting is in response to all the obnoxious posting about how woke this game was. Literally every thread before the last update would get derailed by retards calling the game insufferably woke, and now the same retards call the game based and anti-woke because there's two more cute girls
>>719438663yes, everything else about the deadlock timeline is perfectly normal except for this. good catch (retard)
>>719440030why are you angry
>>719440169i think his head got turned into a goat head
>>719439665I like all of them, hope they touch up the OG heroes. I like them, but there's a clear quality difference between them and the new ones.
>>719439714Seriously. It's hard to look at crusty models like Yamato, GT, Vyper, Holiday, and Kelvin next to some of these new heroes who all feel significantly more polished.
>>719439665Name their band bros
>>719440732Yeah I'm looking at the leaked secret alpha-within-an-alpha build screenshot of these characters and it's insane how well they polished them up. I wonder why they focused on those 6 specifically? I recall Yoshi said at the start of the year their goal was to add more heroes. I hope they keep doing 6 hero voting events if they're this swift about it.Also what happened to Priest? Maybe in the next batch we'll get him?
>>719441067It helps that these were made just for deadlockThe others had to be reworked from a sci-fi setting and had rough models ro begin with
>>719441067Some leaker said that Priest got pulled out last minute because Valve felt like they needed to more with his kit.And if you try his spells out he was mostly done too.
>>719441067>I wonder why they focused on those 6 specificallyMy guess is one of the following>their art design was good enough and they got their VAs for the characters, so they were greenlit for actual kit development>they had kits that were functional enough to make it to live, so they were greenlit for art and VA
>>719432525Asses so fat that they lift skirts up as the fabric merely drapes over them are the best
The art style is shifting to be a bit more cartoony which fits with them wanting to also do visual novels for characters and stories aswell
>>719441067>PriestSaved for the next hero batch so they can have a headstart.
>>719441507I feel like it’ll be 3 brand new heroes and it’ll include priest with Yomato and Grey Talon’s new concepts
>>719441507This nigga looks like a character that guys when they hit 20 base their personality on and that's based
>>719441449it was always supposed to be that way, we've finally gotten to the pretty part of making a new game
Is Victor aimlet friendly or nah?
Just sucked a guy off behind Walmart for an invite which nigga is the best for a brainlet?
>>719429942I hate you people so god damn much.
>>719441573>3 new heroesCOME ON RAVEN AND BOHO
I just hope Valve doesn't go for the way too obvious RELIGION BAD shit in this game now that we know the Vatican exists.I don't think they will desu. They even got rid of communism in this setting after all. They're probably a neutral party.
>>719441067> I hope they keep doing 6 hero voting eventsGiven how successful this one was I'd be surprised if they don't keep doing these.
'vy on the /v/
>>719430167Valve has always been a decade behind on woke, which is truly incredible and worth noting, but they will catch up eventually. Given enough time they will catch up to Rockstar.
>>719441868More like they DID catchup incredibly fast. Look at Neon Prime.But it was so fucking bad that Valve backtracked and now we're here with heroes like Mina and Paige.
>>719441795>They even got rid of communism in this setting after all.Actually because of Raven we do know communism exists, but Russia's under some bizarre syncretism where Monarchism and Communism have merged into one ideology.
>>719441795Something tells me Drifter is not a religious man.
>>719441830She better get a bunch of different skins.
>>719441982Lets be honest hereThe commies got MOGGED by royalty
>Hero Idea - PoltergeistBlonde loli riding a floating TV.Throws floating household objects as her primary fire. Alt fire uses all her ammo but shoots a huge ball of random shit for more damage. She has the weakest wuick melee but her heavy melee can be charged for way way longer for tons of damage.>1 - Summon random bullshitSummons a (Piano/TV/Anvil) in front your hero which you can either launch in front of you or slam down a specific area. They're not just a spell effect but an actual physics object that stays in the game for 30 seconds.>2 - TelekinesisIf Doorman has the Portal gun. Poltergeist has the gravity gun. Can pick up her summoned bullshit, creeps, but not heroes.>3 - Hide in the TVThe loli jumps into her TV heavily increasing her defenses for a couple of seconds. She essentially becomes a physics object like the ball at the hideout that people can fuck with. If she uses this skill while having strong momentum, the TV itself keeps that momentum and is flung towards where she was originally moving. High enough velocity and the TV can damage an enemy.>4 - EctoplasmSprays an ally or enemy hero with ectoplasm. Giving then huge debuffs/buffs. But also lets her use her Telekinesis powers on them. Can also be used on self to empower her 3 skill or on the objects she summons with 1.
Pocket’s mom is coming in the next batchSource: it came to me in a dream
>>719442148Too based for Valve they will NEVER make a loli
>>719442148>Blonde lolialready lost me
>>719442148>Blonde loli
The next vote should be for what concept they go with for Yamato’s redesign
>>719442053True, but they are still called the 'Soviet Empire'. While they do have a queen they seemingly still have some communist stuff going on. Really hope we get a map set there eventually.>A snowy city with a mishmash of old Russian architecture, communism, orthodoxy, and monarchism. High kino potential.
>>719438523>We have Concord at home
>>719441830Sexvy
>>719442148Too good for Valve.
>>719442292why the fuck is this still in the game
>>719442481Deadlock devs were too busy being forced to help finish up Half Life 3 to give her a new model, plz understand.
>>719439665I finally gave into getting an invite because of them even though this genre BSODs my brain.
>>719429942>deadlock discord jeettrannyfurryies here to try and gaslight while they shill their trashyour game dropped to less than 4000 players from 170,000 peak so the developers started saying something besides black women, old ladies, and ugly female monsters.the only reason why your trash added attractive females is cause your gen-x erectile dysfunction cuckold developers hit the panic button and are desperate for the evil male gaze. it's not going to work and everybody still remembers the disabled ugly black women, gross furry monster, and ugly alien asian yamato chick. it's so easy to to imagine your woke erectile dysfunction gen-x cuckold developers smirking as they look at the alien head yamato thinking they made her perfect to avoid male gaze.
>teaching a friend how to play deadlock>REALLY tense lane phase and trying a new character>9 minutes in i mention the jungle>"what's a jungle">feel a spike of rage but contain it>2 minutes later mention pushing the lane>"what's a lane">can't hold it back and snap at him like what the fuck do you mean what is a lane are you paying any attention at all to what we've been doing for 10 minutes now like come on>now i know he won't play the gameFUCK this game is so hard to teach. i'm pretty sure only moba players actually pick this game up, i can't imagine enjoying it without already having years of moba autism under my belt
>>719442987jungle and lanes are gay let me just shoot the baddies already
>>719442987I'm waiting for them to add arena/assault/ARAM
>>719443060If you haven't got enough patience for the first 8 minutes then the game simply isn't for you and go play a hero shooter instead of a moba
>>719442987>>"what's a lane"Is your friend retarded? I've never played a MOBA before that but it's not difficult to figure out what a lane is.
>>719442987i've never played an assfaggots before and i really like this game
>>719429942cause it looked like Concord until like two weeks ago when Valve dropped the redesigns.
Please invite Ive been waiting years76561199553854818
I am so trash at deadlock but I can't stop queueingI apologize to whoever ends up on my team
>>719443380i feel bad for the exasperated but kind singular competent guy on the team who does his best but has no chance carrying 4 dogwater players
New character idea: She is a divorced older woman who’s husband left her years agoBut unlike Lady Geist, she looks older since she doesn’t have a deal going on with an entity to stay young This character is also very kind and just wants to make a wish to be guarantee a long life so she can spend more time with her friends and family due to her being in her 60’s and starting to worry about the futureLady Geist sees her as competition and wants to kill her, also hates how sickenly kind she is
>>719443515meh, sinclair's ball and chain bitch whore wife-i-box is a better design from valve
>>719443515also she has big bazongas and a huge badonkadonk
Victor is literally 'stat check' the character. He just walks at you and he either dies because he's not fed or your entire team dies because he is fed. Fucking retarded design
>>719441868>Valve has always been a decade behind on wokeThey had a black female protagonist in their game a literal decade earlier and as per their commentary explicitly tried to keep her de-sexualized that is like the definition of woke according to /v/
>>719443596Just don't feed him bro.
>>719429942wow
>>719443596Every hero with a good kit is like this
>>719443380There's stuff in and after the game to help out.Mid game you can see what the source of damage is (spirit or weapon). Never stick religiously to a build to forgo the resistances to those if you're not surviving fights.Take some time to look at the graphs at the end of the game, you see them clicking at the bottom of the scoreboard. They can help show what you're doing right and wrong.Take note of what abilities you might be doing the most damage with or who is killing you the most. There's also if you notice a spike in power when getting a specific item and adjusting the priority for getting things in the next game.
>>719443814Most of them require you to actually aim or have some fucking shit they need to hit instead of an AoE death aura
>>719443596I'm annoyed because I just had a game where I shat on him in lane, even post-ult, and then he proceeded to go on an eleven kill streak on the rest of the map.
>>719443596You can build around him, you know. People build knockdown against vindicta and metal skin against haze but there's nothing in the shop that would help you against victor?
>>719444410Healing reduction items
>>719444462*appropriately volumed correct ding*
>>719443515Hell no. Old women are woke as shit
>>719429942Valve is and has always been proto-woke. They were BLACKing their characters and making their female leads strong mystery mutt creatures long before SJWs were a thing. People are just more sensitive to it. Add that on top of Deadlock being WIP and there being a concentrated effort by some small group to sink the game and that's it.Anyone who says, "Well, the game WAS woke but NOW it isn't because-" is just straight-up lying, and all you have to do to prove it is call them out.>>719443315Which redesigns made it go from Concord to something not-woke? Name the characters.You can't say Mina or Paige, because those aren't redesigns.You can't say Lash, because he just had a clearly unfinished model and he actually looks gayer now.You can't say Wraith, because she also just had a clearly unfinished model and it still is.You can't say Vindicta, because she doesn't actually look more attractive now, she just looks different, and they censored her feet.You can't say Ivy, because she was also clearly unfinished and not everyone even thinks she looks better now.So your one and only example is going to be, what, Geist? The girl who sucks people's life force to maker her younger, and they changed her from being old to being young, which is actually what fits her character?Even if I allow Geist counts (it doesn't), you said "redesigns," so who's #2?
>>719429942>be me>queue up deadcock>get bad game >team sucks>people feeding on cool down>can't kill anyone cuz they have lead>not having fun>leave game>oy vey you in low prio queue>140+ ping game>full of russian hackers>being punished cuz you don't want to play a bad losing game for 40 mins >play melee character>faggot enemy team turtling under tower>say fugg it and try to kill them>a billion dashes and jumps>annoying as fuck>tower doing too much damage >parry >stunned for a million>game rewards bitches who want to sit under tower and let structure do all the damageYeah this game is still ASS.
>>719445908Vindicta looks better now
>>719446118>TLDR: I suck
>>719446141>Vindicta looks better nowBut you don't understand he's a foot fetishist and the woke mob are censoring him
>>719429942i dont care if its woke or not, its nice aesthetics, sortawhy i do care about is that its wasted on ASSFAGGOTS TPSmake it one or the other valve, dont make this piece of shit be some sorta sweaty 6v6 shit we've seen by everyone else
>play four matches today>three of them had like 50% of the lobby leave by 12 minutes in (all of them counted as losses)>the other one was me (Paradox) and a Wraith trying desperately to tardwrangle our team that kept dying constantly
>>719446118you're not going to play a moba that doesn't have you relying on strangers to be competent to at least some degree. that means you need to work with the strangers instead of quitting the game and getting russian hacker queue.
>>719446392>he doesn't know
>>719442987You thought throwing him into a match without even explaining basic terminology prior while choosing a char you don't know was a good idea?
>>719446656i dont care, ASSFAGGOTS is ASSFAGGOTSwho the fuck plays DOTA2 for that? i dont
>>719443908Almost all of Victors gimmick is in his 1 though, which does require you to aim.The aura is just to keep you in range of his attacks/gun. You aren't legitimately dying to the aura, right?
>>719446987Actually many people has CS2/TF2/DOTA2 installed but never touched the competitive modes.
>>719446656Deadlock still needs Valve created alternate game modes though
>>719446141She has a better model, but would you really say she was redesigned to make her look more attractive? I don't see it. People were lewding her a little bit before and now she has a different face, but is it really a more attractive face? I don't see that at all.
>>719429942How important is it to have a "balanced" team, I.E. a carry, supports, tanks, etc
>>719447507team comp is literally randomized right now so you can't help itvery good to have a balance between spirit and bullet damage though, so they can't just buy one type of armor and neuter your whole team's output
>>719447507not very in normalfag queues unless it's extreme vs extreme
>>719447507Unless you're completely steamrolling it does feel pretty fucking rough to play a game with nobody who can shoot gun good. Being able to quickly shred structures is important.
>>719447476For me personally yeahShe looks way better now and honestly a bit cuter too compared to how frumpy the old model wasPeople were only lewding her before because there were barely any full on cute girls in deadlockTheres a reason vindicta pickrates went down after mina showed up
>>719447575>>719447579>>719447602GotchaSo really it's more important to have a good spread of bullet and spirit damage rather than having the traditional roles being filled
>>719446593>>719446224I was grandmaster in smite 1 and demigod in smite 2. This game tries to be a moba but also a shooter and both are half baked.
Shiv overhaul when?
>>719447719Wow it's a shame those skills apparently don't transfer to this game, that sucks for you
>>719447719No wonder lmao
>>719447719You can be Faker in League and it would still has nothing to do with another game bro
>>719447938They do I promise you I have hit higher elo than you. I peaked in ascendant.
>>719448072Nah all assfaggot games are the same.
>Literally walked back being wokekek, how many other games do you think are quietly doing this right now?
I don't get it, vindicta is so shit, how do i use her?Even if you're lucky, you can maybe get 3 kills off her ult to get that bounty rewards, which is pathetically less anyway. >inb4 i get more than 10 kills with her ult Then you're already dominating the game and don't need that extra money anyway.
>>719429942it is.
>>719448725Deadlock was less woke than Houseki no Kuni if it counts.
>>719439665pumping into paige while mina watches
>>719448725Pocket is still a tranny and they made Jacob gayer. Three steps forward, one step back.
>>719449004>>719448725>it's not WOKE!>it's WOKE!ok but is it fun?
>>719448824Vindy was nerfed like a villain joining the protagonist team. Now she is only good as a stake spamming support.
>>719448930Woke is intentional ugliness and shittiness. There's nothing woke about attractive and appealing nonbinary rocks, homos, minorities, trannies, and gays except that it may lead to woke in the future. This is why it used to be okay when Japan did it until they caught the bug.>>719449114I would rather die than play an ASSFAGGOTS hero shooter so IDK.
How do I get an invite?
>>719449114>moba tps >funUntil they add other game modes this game may as well be considered a failed dota + smite clone
>>719449290>trolling in the thread>doesn't even play the gameremember folks. never take advice from people on /v/. never let your opinion on anything be altered in any way by people on /v/ they are truly here to just ruin you.
>>719449114I think it is, but I also have 1500 hours in DOTA.
>>719449441>trolling in the thread
>>719449441Aye, I guess everyone ITT who tells you to play the game aren't serious and just trolling too, eh?I'll wait for open beta to form a solid opinion on Deadlock, who knows how many balance changes Valve will come up with until then
>>719449328what's ur steam name
>black bald nigeress>lizard furry>fire nigger>pajeet>fat woman>fat furry>gargoyle furry>troonDROPPED
Love BItes really needs to come with damage amp while proc'd or some shit to make up for it having a CD
>>719449695https://steamcommunity.com/id/Voltairepl/
>>719450074>pajeet>fat woman>fat furry>troon?
Is this fucking game toaster friendly?
>>719450339if your potato can run dota 2, you can run deadlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JKfoZj0-Ec&ab_channel=TuMadre8000>new composerfucking kino
>>719450339RX580 and an i5 8600k at 60~ FPS at 1440p with FSR2 with medium settings but sometimes during a match (rarely during fights surprisingly) I can tell it's chugging my CPU because my mouse will drop inputs for a second or 2. It runs way better than it did a year ago though.
>>719450120If anyone could send an inv, I would be grateful.
>>719450630did u get an invite yet cause ill add you if you havent
>>719450562hung out on the title screen for a moment and damn it goes kinda nutshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGDC3idX1E
>>719450745Not yet
>>719450874doneanyone know how long it takes for valve to approve invites?
>>719451072took less than an hour the last person i invited but it varies depending on hidden trust factors
>>719451072Thanks again brother. Appreciate it
>>719450115mina doesn't need buffs
>try leaving bots>lane partner screeching all game at me>asking if I'm retardedI'll get there some day.
>>719449290The manga is intentional shittiness though. Phos looks like shit in the end.
Apparently Paige's ult is not very tallI like playin this character but godamn her 1 and ult seem jank as fuck.
>>719451393yeah it's basically just an ult version of dynamo's kinetic pulse. but you can set it up with the root at least
>>719451393anytime I see gameplay of this game I want to vomit. like it has no future why aren't they wiping the board and starting new?
>>719451183I feel like she could use some baseline defense. She's super fuckin fragile. Maybe some clip size.
>>719450272>pocket >troon>pajeet>mirage>fat woman>ginnis>fat furry>mo and krill
Can someone post the doorman edit of this? Saw it in a previous thread, forgot to save
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>>719451808naming them makes the claim even more retarded
>>719452313there was another that was an mspaint over the dudes face but thats just as good thanks anon
>>719451072Got mine 10 mins ago FYI
>>719441067how many heroes are there gonna be?
Maybe I'm just new and dumb but why does Haze just not take damage while also dealing a shit ton?
>>719451756then they need to nerf her 2 so that it's not immortality
>>719451282Until you get better just mute anyone who's even slightly rude. Trust meThe second I hear a russian accent I mute, my sanity has improved so much
>>719453006Besides the new ones here is a list of all the upcoming heroes:>Venator the Catholic Priest >Boho the Gypsy Witch>Swan the Ballet Dancer>Skyrunner the Construction Worker>Raven the Soviet Spy>Fathom the Slork
>>719453114>gypsyEwwwww
>>719453041Her winrate in Eternus is damn near rock bottom. I don't think she's doin all that hot that she needs to get reciprocal buffs/nerfs
>>719453229The Disney kind, not a real one.
>>719449004>Pocket is still a trannyI'd call bullshit but i don't play the game yet, can anyone else confirme this?
>>719453229It doesn't count if she doesn't have armpit hair.
>>719453724Pocket's nonbinary or has they/them pronouns or some shit like that. Depends on how close you think that is to being a tranny, I guess.
>>719452345Whatever you say, Raj.
>>719453724>>719453806In the files pocket is labeled as male. Every hero has a tag next to the that's either [f] or [m] and pocket has [m]
>>719453806never been confirmed non-binary but sure
>>719454034>Every hero has a tag next to the that's either [f] or [m] For what purpose?
>>719454053never going to be deconfirmed either because it's free publicity with mentally ill artistshe's male, born as male, and male presenting but voicelines will continue to use neutral pronouns
>>719454085That's a good question, wish I knew.
>>719454170if they do anything to deconfirm it now redditors will throw an absolute fit
>>719454225>>719454085it's for localization in languages with gendered words like french or spanish
>>719454239>>719454170He was supposed to be married to Mina. So by all accounts he's clearly a dude.But even Mina calls him "their" for some reason.I guess the setting is set now and Valve can't pull back.
>>719454239>redditors will throw an absolute fitI'm very confident you will keep us updated on the redditors in future threads.
>>719442148interesting idea but there's no need to limit it to a TV. a cursed bank vault that pukes bags of money / gems would be funnyliquor cabinet where you smash bottles onto people; the liquor would also help the ult make a smidge more sense
>>719437995>The first one to talk gets to find out what I just invented
>>719437034They redesigned Pocket to make him very explicitly male looking kek. I think he was referred to as “they” because you’re playing as the guy + his possessed coat which is a separate entity.
>>719441067WOW look at that early paigenow THAT is some DEI design right there. so DEI it doesn't even match the voice actor they ultimately went with; I wonder which came first.
>>719454719Mina calls hin they them too
>>719429942>trannyshit
>>719438085Yes. Apparently zephyrs or wind spirits exist so everyone never bothered with planes and stuck with airships.This is explicitly confirned by the devs. The same way America has 52 states now.
Victor is a cool character on paper but there’s basically only one way to properly build/play him and he has extremely hard counters. He’s either unkillable if playing against shitters, or the most useless character in the game if playing against people who know how to counter him. Feels like they need to go back to the drawing board with him
Whats the matter anon? you having trouble reaching the end of the hall and entering the elevator?
>>719454914He was perfectly fine the first few hours before they nerfed the shit out of him
>>719454936They should add an ability that lets you rape Doorman players on your team when they ult someone that the team is about to kill.
>>719432525Not really.
>>719454974Consistently ruining games with low skill players is kind of a design problem. Yeah he probably worked at moderate to high skill levels when people start understanding how to counter-buy/never let him stay near them, but 90% of your game's population is gonna be shitters and the game at least has to kind of work for them too.
Managed to get my hands on victor. He is definitly more supportive than I thought. Can't really solo kill, but I am indeed unkillable.
mina feels really weak no matter what i doi tried tankbuster + love bites 3 rush but it still feels like shit.then i tried nox rush and it was better but still felt like shitfinally i tried gun mina but it was awkward as shit since her projectile speed feels even slower and more awkawrd than vindicta's
>>719447678Yeah, notably though you can build spirit items on a gun character and gun items on some spirit characters. But if your actual weapon is ass (kelvin, gooman, warden, dynamo, etc) It's WAY harder to get mileage out of gun items. Meanwhile ivys and Hazes and Wraiths can just m1 your guardians/walkers/shrines in like 4 seconds with basically 0 investment which means teamfights that you lose are that much more punishing if they survive.
>>719445908bro wrote all that but couldn't post a before & after of the redesigns so i could quickly and accurately answer his questions. shaking my head.
>>719455362retard
>>719455362>mina projectile speed>slowAnon if your baseline is Vindicta you fucking suck, I'm sorry to say.
>>719455362?
>>719454719I don't know if they still intend it, but i do think it was "they" for faggy progressive reasons. All of the lore around Pocket is almost impossible to read because of how annoying the wording is.Wiki owners are also a fucking atustic blight.
>>719455749Nothing about his character bio has ever implied it's for progressive reasons. Someone attempted to assassinate him and he went into hiding and gave up his identity in the process. Do you think his actual name is fucking "Pocket"?
>>719455362I've got no real suggestions than watching replays of someone who's done well with her, like Eido - I've had success with her in lane due to having high sustain with her 1 and generally being able to whittle people down easily enough, and you can get decent bursts basically risk free due to her 2. She does tend to feel like shit if you have a bad start though, and her low ammo count means you actually have to be good at aiming to get things going.
>>719455835I'm not saying the bio is what makes it seem like its for progressive reasons.I'm saying the way everything in the lore and on the wiki's is written about him makes me believe that the original intention of the incessant use of "they/them" on this character was for progressive reasons, not genuine lore. You think someone who changes their identity or goes into just suddenly is no longer recognized as a man or a woman? That suddenly everyone in the world would refer to them with ambiguous pronouns? Come on anon, think for a moment.I'm willing to suspend my disbelief and go with it in hopes they are regretting the dumb choice, especially if "they are in hiding" is the excuse they are now giving for it. Kinda shows they may regret the decision.
Why is Paige's ult just a way shittier KOTL of the Light's Q? Sure, you can get two ministuns with when it's level 5 and that one item, but that's a lot of time for it to be useful when most ults come online immediately. And why make it global unless the heal/damage scale with distance travelled.
>>719456096>I'm saying the way everything in the lore and on the wiki'sBro the wiki entry is a fucking copy paste of his ingame bio. Just admit you hate it because you're a fucking loser and move on. What is this prissy bullshit headcanon?
>>719455216You can solo kill if you activate 3 and slow them with 1 while constantly pressing 2 to chase them down. Easier with torment pulse
>>719456350You literally are not understanding what I'm saying at all.
>>719455042the baroness has taken your feedback into consideration
>>719456096Everything about Pocket is gay and retarded. His father is White but for some reason Pocket is asian? Just scrap the whole shitty character
>>719456350>The story itself is fine>The way its written is what makes someone think the original intent, regardless of outcome, was not genuineWhat are you not following?
>>719456410I'm reading between the lines. You want a justifiable culture warrior excuse to dislike the character/design. Don't be a such a softlipped bitch and just say it.
>>719452165>>719452680
>>719456458I literally am giving the game a second chance after being utterly turned off by it. Pocket, along with some of the jank, is the reason I didn't continue playing. In the past week I've put in 40 hours. If I wanted to start some culture war faggot shit, I wouldn't be explaining my reasoning. You are the one sperging out hard because someone may think the writers had ulterior motives at conception, even if the motives have now changed. Get over yourself faggot.
>>719456440Agreed. 3 out of 32 characters having woke/ugly designs (Pocket, Calico, Mcguiness) is a good ratio though, especially when those 3 characters are old and the new characters are a massive step up aesthetically.
>>719456519yeah, nah. You're a cunt.
>>719456153the fact that it passes through walls and goes to the edge of the map is pretty crazypaige is my wife btw
>>719456629
>>719456519Lol you let politics dictate what games you like
>>719456771
>>719456806Give it back
>>719456640The lanes aren't level so it's significantly less valuable to send it across the map than you'd think.
>>719457020it will go up and down slopes, but not up vertical wallsstill sucks if people are jumping though
>>719457083What value is there in hitting someone on the other end of the map? It would only matter if there’s another fight happening over there and you happen to hit an enemy who’s near death
>>719457238you can throw it even if you're not close by for clutch heals and stuns
Is Mirage the most irrelevant character? The rare time when I have one in my match I never see him do anything. Is his name a form of meta commentary?
>>719433084>Hey, that was a good kill, not that a Mina player would knowi recognize that line. Love me some meatballs.
>>719429942Because it is, and I'm never gonna play it
Victor is way more fun than I expected. No idea how he fares in real matches, but I've been wrecking hard bots. I suspect anti heal cucks him into uselessness though.
>>719429942The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
Why does lady Geist have white hair if she’s young?
all my friends say bebop is the worst character ever do they just suck dick at him or something? I love bebop and I love killing
>>719457947she was literally on her deathbed when she made the deal idk
I assume Holliday is meant to do some Batrider shit where she steals an enemy and then jumps safely into her grouped teammates who proceed to rape. Has anyone actually seen that happen?
>>719457971relocating the enemy into your team is always good.big fuck off laser is nice.
Sex with Ivy
I can't figure out itemscan you generally always get rid of lower tier items to make space for higher tier or should I read carefully
>>719458186pick your nose and get a public build that looks cool to you and follow it religiously and if you're getting assraped look at the optional section
>>719439665wife got successfully gaslit into doing a Paige cosplay for one of the days of an upcoming convention so I think its a dub regardless of how good the update was in game
>Flask: imbued>Criminals: apprehendedYeah, it's Warden time.
>>719458604ACABAlChemical flAsk imBued
>>719442987Nigger, how do you lose your temper at your buddy 10 minutes into a vidya game? I wouldn't play with you either.
>>719457971In my experience Bebop players are most dangerous people you can fight or they're drooling retards, so yes, your friends just suck.
>>719442987holy shit why did you not go "hey, do the tutorials that explain the literal 101 of what we are doing and then we can do a bot match to let you experience a full match"are you fucking retarded, have you never introduced someone to a new genre before
>>719429942>make shitty mobile phone tier game>slap valve sticker on it>soigape.jpg
>>719442987You sound like a gigantic faggot who doesn't deserve friends, just FYI.
>>719458604Something just feels right imprisoning Infernus while playing Warden.
>>719458945That bebop died with 4 items holy shit rip. Low ranks seem like a fucking acid trip what do you little rascals get up to down there
mcginnis with fleetfoot is funyou can chase people at high speed with the wall and you can see the panic when the ghost wall goes right past them
>>719459160Strong contender for being her second or third item. Regardless of what you end up building for her build
>>719459135Once we got into their base they started rage quitting except for the Victor, that Victor stood and fought and he has my respect.
>>719459327I just watched the replay. Bebop loses lane and then QQs out at like, 10 minutes into the match. What a fucking travesty. You gotta learn to play from behind or you'll never get good at the game
>>719459587Lower ranks are FLOODED with niggers like that. People that leave at the first sign of difficulty or getting even slightly behind in lane. Which means the match just falls apart because it's basically impossible to 5v6 over the course of an entire game. Assuming more people don't leave when they see the pop-up. It feels like half of my matches end up that way.Why the fuck are you playing a competitive game if you're so fragile that you literally cannot handle a loss? And, no, adding a surrender option wouldn't help because if you try to surrender before 20 minutes have passed you're a fucking retard.
>>719460093>And, no, adding a surrender option wouldn't helpThen enjoy wasting your time.
>>719460093If you are playing at the rank you should be, you should, statistically, lose half your games. There are troglodytes who exist among us, whose vote's count the same as ours, who are physically incapable of playing out half their games if they aren't stomping. Literally pathetic.
>>719438252>Whoa, there's a character that looks like that in game? Or even close to that in game?Yes, that's Lady Geist. Although in the game, she is nowhere near that tan.>Or is there stuff that looks more like thia pic related Rosie the Riveter feminist hoeRosie the Riveter is hot, though. And so is McGinnis.
Wraith feels bad. Even with her powerspikes she feels weak. Good for ratting though.
>>719460402Why not just end the game once one side wins the laning phase. Better yet anon, why not just flip a coin at the start of a match and surrender if you don't win it.
>>719438523We love our nubian queens here.
>>719442987you sound like a horrible friend dude jfc
>>719460480>disingenuous argumentStop trying to demonize surrender button.Either support adding surrender button in game, or stop complaining about retards ruining your game.I will keep throwing the game and make sure there's 0 chance you can win until they added a surrender button in game.
>>719443603>and as per their commentary explicitly tried to keep her de-sexualizedI was actually playing the commentary mode and I wasn't surprised when I heard that. They weren't wrong though, mid-00's female characters was probably the peak of sex appeal being the primary concern.
>>719460593Are leaguetards really like this?
>>719438663Because it's woke. Spanish majority area to associate with other spanish majority areas like mexico.
>>719460465Playing wraith is a plea to your team >please escort me through the laning phase and make room for me to farm and split push>and in return at about 30k souls I can start admin deleting people from the serverthe trick is surviving the half hour it takes to get there, and having your team intact on the other side of it. There's a reason she's more popular in EU with better team coordination
>>719460593>this is what riotcels actually do with their time
Victor is my favorite hero now :)
I liked having dedicated slots for each category of itemWhy did they drop it?
>>719460652I'm an infernusbro, is haze more my style? Or is she similarly grindy like wraith.
>>719446392>dont make this piece of shit be some sorta sweaty 6v6 shit we've seen by everyone elseHuh? Most games are casual slop with low skill ceilings...unless you actually think crap like Rivals or Overwatch is hard?
>>719437009she's so fucking annoying to play against in lane, if the player can shoot
>>719445908>Valve is and has always been proto-wokeI can accept woke by the standards of the late 90s-early 00s where you can make a half black half asian female lead who's non-sexualized but she's still pretty and nice and not an obnoxious girlboss.
>>719460726Haze is probably worse because she's pretty firmly mono damage type. Play against a team that knows how to counter build and it might not matter how much you farm (and haze IS very jungle farm heavy) if they all buy disarming hex and plated armor to cuck you.>infernusbroHe's a great hard carry character, if you want something thats a little different but still in the same general vein, try Seven. He's not too dissimilar to wraith but has a MUCH better lane and a smoother power curve, even if he can't quite get to the ridiculous heights of a late game fed Wraith.
>>719460593>I will keep throwing the game and make sure there's 0 chance you can win until they added a surrender button in game.lolbabs are the absolute worst
A game doomed to fail lol.
>>719460652This. Wraith is the hyperist of hypercarries.
>>719460593Based. This guy has more balls than all of you combined.
>>719460593how is it even fun to grief in this game? losing in dota is fucking horrific and I dont blame people for throwing there but this game is a lot more fun when you're down and losses dont feel as bad, at least to me. running it down mid in deadlock is comical because its like running it down mid in fucking candy crush bro get a grip
>>719461082If he had any, he would just abandon the match.
>>719461082why are you playing a game that you can't stand half of, there's a shit load of other things you could be doing with your time, shit load of other games if you want to limit it to just that
How is it that after all these years Valve still has sauce?
how 2 mirage
>>719461312Click on peopleGet Ricochet and a bunch of debuff shit for your gunClick on peopleHe's not very good but he gives the enemy team aids.
>>719461258>no shareholders that you need to keep happy with a growing number every month>infinite money from being the first pc game store that stopped sucking so no pressure there>allegedly fairly flexible work environment so people can work on what interests them>pay and benefits mean that people actually stick around and contribute expertise instead of getting woodchippered 9 months after rushing a game to launch
>play solo game>its just 5 lanes of inting while the other team is clearly a coordinated stack of much higher elo then my teammates
>>719461258>>719461391This. For better or for worse Valve is still run like a dot com bubble startup. I have my doubts that Deadlock is going to be a massive success in the end but the fact that the primary complaint people have is that it isn't *just* a shooter or *just* a MOBA tells me that they successfully managed to make something that went against the grain. It'll find its audience.
>>719461312never miss and hit a shot approximately every 2.5 seconds
>>719461662desu all this game needs a proper casual mode that lasts 10-15 minutes max and this game is set for life
game looks more visually messy than overwatch surprised its by valve looks like a chinese game and I already see all the shitty moba elitism itt. i've seen big streamers clips of the game thats it and none of them like it but I dont hold their opinions highly but still none seem to care for it. Battleborn 2.0
>>719429942Is her name deadlock?That gives me the idea why there is no game where the characters have names of sexpositions? Deadlock, full nelson, missionary
>>719429942I dont give a shit if a game is "woke" or not. If it plays well I'm playing it. poltards ruined this board. Kill yourselves
PAWGE
>>719462372retard
Calico is a shit garbage design and that's pretty much it.
>>719432286He just uses it to hide his identity. There's another character now that's a "they" he/she nigga, and it's a mannequin possessed by two magician ghosts.
>>719433578Can you parry Billy's skills?His melees are one thing, but I hate his abilities.
>>719439665Disappointed by Billy's gay rocker personality
>>719432395>>719439449>>719449004>>719453724>>719453806Ahcktuhahlly the reason people refer to Pocket as "They" is only because the "they" in question are all of the fuckass ghosts he's carrying around in his bag.
>>719441507I can't wait to play him and warden exclusively
>>719461312Like this https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
>>719461083>i like losing>but not surrender>because... because I SAY SO OK!!!!??!?!?Yeah... just admit you lied and you actually don't like losing. Otherwise you would be cheering for people throwing the game.
>>719453724Pocket is hiding his identity after Calico was paid to assassinate him.So he doesn't go by pronouns to stay incognito
>>719461258They're one of the many examples of why privately owned companies are based. They're willing to do stuff just for the sake of fun, they're able to stick to their values, and they can treat their employees well enough that some people have been with the company for decades. They're not really motivated by the fact that Deadlock is going to make a ton of money, they just seemed to want to make something cool.Just notice the fact that they're willing to show off such egregiously unfinished shit to their audience and have fun with it, because they don't need to care if it damages sales or interest. Deadlock is an interesting look at how games are kind of developed and iterated, and I don't think any company but Valve would give it.That's all to say that Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>719462939only ability you can parry by default is goo strike not that anyone remembers that
>>719429942Because it is, also buy an ad.
>6v6 fight in the base>everyone popping everything>audio fucking explodes
>>719463185FOR THE DJINN
The new heroes feels so much stronger than the old onesPlaying someone like Warden against Viktor or Billy is a nightmare even with his Ult
>>719463638Bro Warden sucks. At higher ranks, it takes an arm and a leg to get his gay Chasity cage to be useful for anything other than getting someone to step back 10 feet. His ult will get shut down every time, and his flask and shield are just “ok”
>>719463638Slowing hex for billyAntiheal for victor.
>>719439665Standing blowjobs from Paige.
>>719429942why does everyone pretend deadlock is alive again by spamming these daily threads out of nowhere?
how do you build victor? I just got him for the first time
>>719439665New characters are a million times better than the previous ones, Valve needs to get to work and change the old characters because no one wants to play them now
>>719464121How many times does it have to be said that the assets are placeholders?
>>719464172It's not just about the assets. It's the mechanics.
>>719464121>Valve needsTO MAKE A NEW HALF LIFEIT HAS BEEN 5 YEARS SINCE ALYX NOW
>>719463930but /v/ also talks about dead games everyday?
>>719442987>i'm pretty sure only moba players actually pick this game upFalse. Deadlock is my first MOBA. In fact, I didn't even know what a MOBA was when I started playing Deadlock, nor that this game was anything like Dota 2. I then later tried Dota 2 and I didn't like it.
>>719451747>like it has no futureJust because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean that no one else likes it. In fact, the hero vote event was a tremendous success.>why aren't they wiping the board and starting new?They already did. The game used to be called Neon Prime.https://youtu.be/xqJsU0iN_UI
>>719464172The skills too, doorman ult absolutely raised the bar.
>>719464678They really need to redo Paradox. She is so bland.
I usually love tanks, used to play the shit out of Axe in DOTA 2, but for some reason the tanks of this game don't feel as tanky. With the exception of Victor, I have more fun building gun or spirit on the heroes that could be considered "Tanks". Gunbrams is super fun for example.
>>719463185>>719463613Holy fuck lmao.
>>719465006Abrams gun is strong, I had a normal amount of souls and still killed ivy in 5 hits
>>719464671We really dodged a bullet on Neon Prime, huh?
>>719464816Paradox is fun. One if the most fun from the base roster.Though I do agree they can probably do wilder shit with time powers.
>>719465123I think of the original cast, the most perfect is Seven.10/10 kit10/10 gun10/10 themingSuper simple, but super enjoyable. Should be considered the "baseline" of a good designed hero for the game, at least on the simple side of things.
>>719442987patiencelets should not be teachers
>>719442987You sound like you're a joy to be around
>>719465236>mfw i will never experience the untouched ivy combo with seven again
>>719460093Any game that can go > 30 min NEEDs a surrender button. I'm not saying people won't abuse it, but right now they will instead just throw, so nobody wins by not having it.If you have enough experience, you just know when something cannot be won anymore.Surrender mechanics are completely normal. For example, nobody ever plays out a complete round of any RTS game, because you surrender when the writings on the wall.
>>719465581Lost laning phase ff at 15
>>719465961>>719465581Personally I'd like an "undo" purchase button for the shop, but I can see why for a game like this it might not be possible as opposed to something like league where you can only buy in base.
>>719465581>you just know when something cannot be won anymoreSure, but I don't trust the other 4 retards to.If you add a surrender button you completely eliminate any chances of ever having a comeback unless you are in a premade.
>>719465236>TFW all the characters I want to try out use burst fire weaponsI mean I don't hate burst fire weapons per se, but I'd rather a gun be full or semiBurst just annoys me for some reason
>>719463185I need this voice clip to spam whenever I play him
>>719465581The game should have a surrender button, I'm just saying that it won't fix the problem of niggers leaving. Because they're going to vote to surrender on a game that's perfectly salvageable, the rest of the team will say no, and then they'll just leave anyways. It won't solve the problem of these people acting like apes.
>>719460628Absolutely. They concede after one bad teamfight. There's a reason league games are on average so fucking short. League players will unironically play for four hours just to get one game that doesn't have a concession from either team.
>>719466539>concentrated fire exists>technically every character can be burst fireWhy is there so much burstfire favoritism?
>>719466570Isn't it because like the first 10 minutes of a game in League determine the match? There was a pretty ridiculous correlation between the gold lead at 10 mins and victory with League pro games I'm pretty sure.
how does Paige's 1 work? Do I control what direction it goes in?
We know that alt game modes are coming, but how are they going to do souls and items with them?
>>719466750What do you mean how?
>>719466796Like... for a CTF game mode are they just going to have Troopers going around doing shit, or in a payload-like game mode are they going to have troopers pushing with/defending against the objective?Actually, a payload mode with a walker could be funny.
>>719466881They'll probably make it so that everyone gets a base level of souls to spend at the start and then make it so that soul gain per second is a thing with specific tower objectives that grabt more soul.
>>719466698I was a leaguetard when I was a lil kid. Comparing league to dota, they basically removed all of the subtle ways you can come back so to compensate they made all of the heroes flashier and flashier.
>>719466698League doesn't have comeback mechanics so once you have a lead it's yours to lose. In a pro match that means you just play safe and win more. But in 99% of games people will gladly throw their life away 2v5 over and over again and it can swing either way. Nobody conceding in anything but fucking 2200+ elo can accurately evaluate their game on the fly as "losing" or "winning".
>>719466017if you sell an item before leaving the shop menu/area it's a full refundif you buy the wrong item and walk away it's a skill issue
What if Deadlock just ripped off designs from the Skullgirls cast? It's the same occult noir setting.Y/N?
>>719466698NTA but yes, League snowballs like fucking crazy compared to Dota. If you win your lane you will win the game. The rest of the match is completely pointless.
>>719467198Sometimes an autobuy will just sell your items even if they don't use them in a recipe or anything. It's kind of finnicky.
>>719467008>so to compensate they made all of the heroes flashier and flashier.I've noticed that too. It feels like every new League champ has some kind of involved minigame in how you're supposed to play them.
>>719467262Only if it kept the pre-censorship panty shots.
>>719432432They have their black fire guy dressed up like the "Dancingest rape folk" blacksploitation character
>>719467262The nun and the egyptian are greatTheyre the only ones id want for deadlockOh actually a rubberhose cartoon hero would be great too
>>719451747Thanks for your input uncle dane
>>719467262Big Band and Beowulf should have an instant kill combo together
>>719466750There's a few where it's easy and obvious>wave defense>L4D-like>something like Smite's arena mode>ARAMI also wouldn't mind them having multiple of the MOBA maps that can have different objectives on them (like HotS). I honestly think that was one of the best parts of HotS, as it gave a lot of variety. Some maps, instead of having midboss, have other side objectives (or a midboss that gives a different benefit, like a super-trooper that pushes mid after you beat the boss).But for other multiplayer shooter modes, like KotH, CTF, and payload, I could see it being checkpoint based, round-based, or time-based. Like getting souls at certain points of a match, maybe a bonus for doing side objectives. It'd be a bad idea to tie soul gain to winning, though, because that would snowball way harder unless there's jungling or something, which is counter to most shooter game modes.I'm pretty sure for payload specifically people have found stuff in the files for the payload asset suggesting that troopers can carry it, so it seems like for that at least the idea is that troopers are pushing the payload's route.
>>719466750>>719467580Youre thinking small timeImagine a "The Hidden" game mode fron those old Source gamesOr fuck let Hotpoo recreate Risk of Rain 2 lmao
>people saying victor is overpoweredi literally shoot him for a few seconds as vyper and he dies, hes even kind enough to come to me so i can barrel stuff him
>>719467749People say his ult is broken while it's the weakest spell of his kit, I would not worry about it
>>719467841Yeah unlike Skeleton/Wraith King, Victor doesn't have that much that allows for staying power and scaling to carry status.
>>719439665Looks like they hired artist from that never made the jump from Tumblr.
>>719430167Pre 2014 "woke" is actually good because it is just artists doing their thing, not trying to exclusively stick to conventional beauty and appeal.post 2014 "woke" sucks specifically because this subversive design became endemic and ended up inhibiting true creativity since trying too hard to be progressive limits the scope of your expression
>>719464671>In fact, the hero vote event was a tremendous success.Which shows how stupid gaming has become. In the end the voting didn't change anything at all and the game would literally be the same without it.
>Get perfect Dynamo Singularity>Team fucks back to base with at very least 3/4 health and I still have my heal ready to go.Pussies.
>>719464340singleplayer games cant be dead
Am I retarded if the setting/concept kinda reminds of the OG Fate/Stay Night? More so in the sense of 'urban fantasy murder ritual participated by whackos, magi and psychopaths.'
>>719468657you might be retarded but fighting on the rooftops made me call this the best F/SN game ever made so I'm retarded too
>>719467749imo he's powerful up close once the damage on his aura ramps up, otherwise all he can really do is hold m1 and Jumpstart himself
>>719468657>Fate/Stay NightI'd actually say that's Vampire the Masquerade and World of Darkness in general. Deadlock's setting is one where everyone is aware of the occult to the point where its just a part of everyday life. The Nasuverse really relies on that whole double life thing.
>>719468330Quit being a joyless faggot. It was a fun idea for a little event that drove up engagement, gave people a reason to keep coming back over a couple of weeks, and let them adjust each hero as they released without overwhelming things with six characters at once.
>>719465080Remember that trend of games with the obese downie-faced pear-shaped character that plauged f2p games? this was basically that
>>719468330t. Victorkek
>>719469829>The Nasuverse really relies on that whole double life thing.You could say the same thing about WOD, since you know, the masqueradeBut generally yeah you have a good point, in here the magical and occult are widely known. That's not to say there aren't any secrets but your average john probably knows what magic is and might see in his day-to-day life from time to time.
>>719469829Nasu played WoD games before making his setting, so that checks out too.
do I build gun Paige or meme echo shard Paige?
>>719470154>You could say the same thing about WOD, since you know, the masqueradeThat’s exactly why I brought it up.
>>719470261build the even more meme all ability range items paige and cover every teamfight in garbage
>>719470545which one is that?
>>719465236Objectively, the best designed is BebopEvery ability works and is useful, they all flow in to each other, relevant at all stages of the game, never really brokenThe runner ups are Seven and LashThe problem with Seven is that he has, at some point, legitimately broken the game with some dumb ass build around every single one of his itemsLash is extremely fun to play but getting abducted gets annoying after awhile and his ult is simply too strong and game warping
>>719467749he scales up incredibly welllate game victor is an unkillable god that holds W and kills your entire backline
>>719471025Bebop looks like shit tho
>>719470154>your average john probably knows what magic is and might see in his day-to-day life from time to time.I’d say it’s a lot more than time to time. America literally annexed a giant chunk of Hell and made it a state. There are giant billboards advertising all sorts of alchemical and spiritual stuff. Everyone gets around via airship powered by wind spirits. Miku works for the military industrial complex and is turning spirits into WMDs. You get the idea. Deadlock is a world where the magical has become mundane. Everyone uses it and encounters it as part of every day life. It’s more like if Shadowrun was set in the mid 20th century instead of being cyberpunk.
>>719453114SLORK MENTIONED!!!
>>719457492FOR THE DJINN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>719457492He was my most played character back in the day and it sucks he's kind of shit now
i just tried shiv and he's nice, wish he was a girl though so i could look at some ass
>>719458945>door just doesn't place against a perfectly flush wallthis kind of shit makes me not play doorman
>>719442987Thanks for reminding me why I never want to touch an assfaggots
We need surrender voting.
>>719473164It's so easy to tell when a game is unsalvageable because of extra slots. Not using them to determine if a team can surrender is retarded.
>>719473164What a waste of time.
>>719441432This man....this man is a visionary
>>719473301Ehhh I can understand why they're hesistant to do so. A lot of players can be whiny cunts who will beg for surrender after losing lane when the game's still winnable.>>719473569>Didn't censor the match IDRIP anon, there's a schizo who goes out of his way to target/doxx people who mess up with that thing.
>>719429942While tan is great in it's way, I think Geist's 'too rich to have seen the sun' paleness is too core a part of her appeal to be rid of
>>719473669I never sensor the match ID. If someone wants to see my terrible performance, they are free to do so.
>>719473692needs visible pubes
>>719473692Isn't she French-Creole?
>>719429942who's the best character if all you care about is shooting people and not fag abilities
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Just had a best game ever and carried the team with Victor towards victory.I fucking hated the rest of the team for being retarded. They already have so much souls, so there's no excuse about souls/item difference either.
>>719474023HazeWraithGrey TalonSeven
>>719461391>>719461662>>719463364fanfiction aside valve employees are encouraged to appear "productive" (corpo speak for making money to company) lest they get fired for being death weight by top dogs. Which is why you witness valve employees hopping from one project to another. HL alyx only happened because gabe jewell personally wanted it. Deadlock like wise has icefraud's disgusting scent all over it who seems to have insane power at valve. Why do you think valve makes a shitty dota like game every few years?
>>719432525t. Pocket
>>719473925Yea, but the ghost arm thing is really screwing her over, hence why she's so crazy pale
>>719471437How do I build him so this happens?
Haven't played this in months. Nice to see a resurgence with a bunch of kino new characters. Tell me, have there been any major gameplay changes? Is it a good time to come back? What change has made this fun again?
You are doing your playtester surveys, right anon?
>>719438547>realm full of demons is part of united statesDeadlock US didn't fucked around and made Israel part of their country?
>>719429942I'm not playing anything that's been touched by those parasites or other nigger girlboss end whiteness consultant firm, that's just that simple.(ye I don't play many games these days)
>>719473913 based observation, but only if it's done with the delicate grace of 90s anime shading. too many artists go full coomer and forget the art of suggestion. subtlety is dead and buried under a mountain of ai-generated bara thighs.
>>719438631The surface dwellers WILL take The Deep and its issues seriously.
Mina mating press
>>719451808>pajeet>mirageHe's Arab doe.
>new batch of heroes in three monthsWhat the fuck do we do now?
what do you guys think
Why even cares about competitive multiplayer games though? Except for 16-year-olds and third-worlders? If you haven't moved onto exclusively single-player games by adulthood, you are terminally normie, not even human.
>>719475052Have fun until they add more heroes and overhaul the jungle :)
League is 50x bigger than DOTA so why is Valve trying to make FPS Dota?
>Teammate sends me a friend request because I said I liked his name>Add him>He doesn't text me even after the game endsIt's been like 10 minutes what do I do
>>719475637Send him some Ivy porn.
>>719475547because dota is theirs
>>719474628Try and see
>>719475517As long as they don't make a dedicated jungle role I will be a happy camper.
>>719475781why would you replicate failure
>>719476005it was the biggest game on steam for 8 years straight
>>719476092And still way smaller than league during that same period
>>7194760052nd place (debatable) in an oversaturated genre is still prime profitable material.It's like saying why would they continue making Halloween movies when Friday the 13th was the slightly more popular slasher franchise.You really underestimate the>Holy shit two cakes!Audience. And any effort to undermine that is a telltale sign of a bad faith argument.
>>719476005The guy who made dota isn't just going to start copying league when he starts a new game.And the game only got started because Icefrog wanted a new project.
>>719475052>new batch of heroesIronically, that's gonna kill the game
>>719468178You're joking but that's literally true
>>719476790What?
>>719473569This is now a third match like this. It seems that Pocket is matchmaking poison. I won't be playing as him anymore until this is fixed.
>>719473925No? Where did you get creole from? Her art and model are as white as it gets.
>>719476990Too much heroes mean the knowledge check skill floor will be raised way too much for newcomers.Nobody want to play a game where they will get their ass kicked by a bunch of people that have already played the game for a long time.The more heroes there are, the harder it is to attract newcomers.What they should do now is focus on completing the 1.0 of the game, and they can release new heroes from then on.
>win with paige twice>shes now all I gethuh
>>719477376>>shes now all I getWhat does this mean?
>>719477278You just sucks.
>>719477278Stop playing pocket, I've been playing this game for a year and have yet to see a good one. I'm purple rank
>Want to make money selling cosmetics>Add several handicapped characters in a setting with healing magicSomebody fire the tumblr designer working at Valve
>>719477415I know, but this doesn't explain why almost everyone else on my team also sucks when I play as Pocket. This doesn't happen with other heroes.
>>719477407It means I have about 15 characters selected and I've gotten her 4 games in a row and now make that 5. She's not even high priority
>>719477278You're building him wrong, I can tell just by the length of the barsDo you even have Majestic Leap?
>>719477607No. It's been a while since I played, I forgot why it was good on Pocket.
>>719429942The early heroes were kinda mid, but the last two batches have been really good.Also, red state ameriniggers use "woke" synonymously to "thing I don't like".
>>719477362Theyre shooting for 40~ ish heroes for the rosterI think thats fine for a launch number
>>719477484>handicapped characters?
>>719477664It's primarily for getting into the middle of the enemy team for ults without having to use your 2, which you then use to escapeBut it's also great for getting around the map obviously, and can get you out of sticky situations by using 2 to get on a building then Leaping out
>>719477820Alright. Also forgot how to farm. How do you do that effectively?
>>719477758Shiv and calico are missing limbs and using kookily wooden arms that look retarded
>>719477983Get monster rounds (cultist sac maybe too, though I'm less sure about that) and kill shit. Pocket is very strong at all points in the game so just press your buttons I don't know why I never see him anymore. Especially when he counters Victor so hard
>>719474967-ing Geist with her massive futa cock
When/why did they lower the ceiling of the map? I remember people overlooking the entire map at once as Vindicta. Really nerfs anyone that can jump up.
>>719478059shiv and calico have hastily recolored robot arms because their models and animations are from a different iteration of the game
>>719478067At least I see him more often that Warden. Remember that hero?
>>719429942posting off model art won't make non woke you shit eating faggotcall your SBI advisor for more information on how Valve is involved in diversification of their productsthey've been pushing women on the pedestal not even in Dota 2 but all across their productsDeadlock is the most faggot tier ridden woke game they've ever made
>>719478423>they've been pushing women on the pedestal not even in Dota 2 but all across their productsYou say that like it's a bad thing!
>>719446656Can't wait for deadlock autochess
>>719478423okay
>>719478423meds
>>719478609when I get vomit inducing Arcanas for literally fucking who heros that are female and every other hero gets ignored or made a female variation of that hero, then yes nigger, it's bad a thingValve obviously and forcingly pushing woke trash into their games. I don't know what type of OTC deals they've been doing but they've been not only contacting SBI advisors but knowingly pushing this faggotry in their games. Nobody asked for this, nobody wanted this yet we see it in full force being pushed their own throats. Valve Corp. is a private corporation at the end of the day and oh boy what tragedy it would be for them to be listed at the ESG list of top contributes of diverse cancer into our lives.Artifact still failed tremendously, Deadlock will fail tremendously without a single fucking doubt.
>priest is months from nowIts fucking over
>>719479113>the next update is probably in DecemberJUST
Why did they change the inventory system3 sections for orange/green/purple + unlockable flex just made senseNow people are just jamming all the gun stuff in every slot without thinking
>>719478962You can always try to write a mail to Gabe.
>>719475637delete him lol. these kinds of people just want to see you accept the friend request.
>>719479630>Now people are just jamming all the gun stuff in every slot without thinkingTotal gun build victory.
>>719479630because unrestricted slots are fun
>>719479630*rusted barrels u*
>>719479650You could kill yourself any time of the day. Pick one.
>Try Mcginnis turret build>Lose>Try Pure Heal build>Lose>Try Gun debuff build>LoseGuys I might be bad with this character.
