>play this for the first time>actually die significantly more times because of the platforming than because of enemies and bosseswhy was this so praised again?
>>719440227Most of the platforming jank known for this game came from unlocking the fps in the original PTDE. It's not that fucking hard, and you making a thread about it only makes you look like a moron.
>>719440782still, dying more because of the platforming is the clear sign the game has a design flaw.
The platforming and large levels are actually great despite the flaws. Trying to clear blighttown/the tree was fun. I wish Sen’s fortress was bigger and more complex. I’ve been playing it recently and I hadn’t touched it since release. I was actually surprised how easy it was this time (after playing a couple other souls games since); I spent 110 hours on my DS1 playthrough in 2014. I’m almost done with the DLC and I’m at 37 hours now
>>719441657>guys I put more than a hundred hours on it>the platforming is easy, even great, I swear
>>719442047It’s been like 15 years since, clearly I haven’t been practicing
>>719441657I miss the first couple extremely long playthroughs of this game. It feels fucking huge the first time, then before you know it you can beat the game in under 10 hours.
Your just a normal dude and you expect to be jumping 6 feet horizontal or vertical no problem?
>>719440227I just beat this game yesterday. If you like this game you are mentally ill. This games is horrible, there are very few redeeming qualities, two of which being the world and the lore. The runbacks are horrible, most of your deaths will be from running back to bosses or dumb shit like the bed chaos' arm sending you flying through the map. The main thing i liked about this hunk of overrated garbage was the characters and fast travel being locked behind O&S. Im playing dark souls 2 on the ps3 now and people really said this is worse? How? Ds2 is already so much smoother and so much better than this. I truly think this is one of the worst souls/soulslikes ive ever played; lies of p and Nioh are far better than this. The only good memories i have are gwynevere's tits and firelink shrine.
>>719440227Is this considered retro yet
>>719442751>bad runbacksWhere? Four Kings has the elevator but you can skip most of New Londo, Chaos has the hidden bonfire, Crystal Caves are a pain but Seath is easy as fuck, Nito's runback isn't bad, O&S has the stairwell skip. Did you go to Ash Lake or TotG early and sit at the bonfire like a retard?
>>719440227Because this was before Fast Souls came in and ruined everything for everyone.
Oh boy, wiki games. I love them so much
>>719443076No, we are still living in the same technological era as we were 15 years ago.
>>719441501No it means you're a retard. They're janky but you really shouldn't be messing anything up more than once or twice. Aside from the the great hollow or blighttown that is, as those are obviously made with the intention of being challenging to navigate safely.
>>719443150Joke's on you. I've been playing games with guides since I was 10. This never bothered me. It's the reason I make let's plays, because there is no shame in looking at guides.
>>719440227I died falling on blighttown more than everything else combined
>>719443312Based and Prima pilled
>>719442751I'm like only 70% sure this is bait, only because of the reference to lies of P and Nioh. The rest of your post is believably subtle though so I applaud your efforts.
>>719441501The holes are there for you to fall and die, they aren't there for decoration.
>>719440227I don't recall this game having any platforming. Even blightown only had some optional stuff.What you mean is that you die by falling off of ledges.Which is a good thing. I would rather the world have environmental hazards than shitty invisible walls.>>719441501>still, dying more because of the platforming is the clear sign the game has a design flaw.The environment actually posing a threat to you is a good quality of this game. You actually pay attention to the environment because of it. Modern soulslikes focus too much on bossesAlso, most level based games historically have had environmental hazards
>>719440227>>719441657You know that dread you felt while navigating Blighttown and Sen's Fortress? Completely intentional and amazing. Dark Souls is truly a 10/10 game and it fully deserved to become a massive phenomenon.
>>719443375I have all prima guides except the one for Dark Souls 3 because people said it has youtube links.
What platforming is even hardSen's Fortress is literally just "wait till boulder to go by" Blighttown I get but the route from the valley of the drakes is easy
>>719440227>t. retard
>>719441501sounds more like a clear sign youre not paying attention
>>719443738On a first playthrough you are not likely to find the Drakes path first. Buying "the sequence breaking item" on a first playthrough is the worst way to play the game.
>>719443524>Modern soulslikes focus too much on bossesThat's because they - unlike you - understood that platforming was utter crap.When you put other mechanics outside of the main one but don't really make an effort they always suck. It's like when you forcibly put stealth in games that don't require it, like FFXV. It's just bad.I'm glad they now focused on what actually worked - bosses.
>>719440227It's almost like you have to respect the ledges of the level.Something tells me OP keeps falling off because he's only focused on the combat. If it's the rolling that gets him dropped the trick is to not roll while locked on for full control of it.
>>719443738Depth perception of the swinging blades is fun, especially the last one before the bonfire. It tricks you into thinking there is no gap in between, but there is one.
why did souls give up on gimmicky levels like sen’s or blighttown. the enemies were just there to fuck you over and the focus was on completing them. i really hope they bring that feeling back of feeling lost and then finding the next waypoint
>>719444013I don't want a boss rush. I don't want to be rolling like a maniac every other second. I want an adventure. Dark Souls 3 did so much damage to the Souls name, you can't even recognize the series anymore.
>>719444119To push action slop down our throats.
What platforming does DaS1 even have? Blighttown and Sen's Fortress? Everyone hates Blight and Sen's isn't that hard
>>719440227>he's a parkourlet
>>719444119They got track minded on making every enemy a duelist to drop anywhere rather than using specific types of enemies with specific strengths and specific weaknesses in areas built around those traits.When was the last time they even dared to make something basic like tight corridors and then stick some spear enemies against you?
>>719444130just shows you how far they have strayed from the premise. the focus in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls was understanding and clearing the level. now there is barely any danger and you respawn at the boss
>>719444259blight town is the best level in the game
>>719444882The prima guide avoids the upper part of Blighttown. I think it just revisits that place later when you're super over leveled.
>>719440782this post is a total headcanonuncapping your fps has issues but its not gonna change the fact you slide 999km/h down small slopes
>>719444259It's full of platforming. Remember how you get back into the Asylum? Through careful jumps.
>>719440227>Dark Souls demastered you already fucked up
can you believe it's already 15 years basically
>>719445197aside from some graphical sheen fuck-up-ery, what’s wrong with it
>>719445181Just getting back to the asylum is very difficult with unlocked fps.
>>719445181In PTDE it has an effect on how slippery the slanted ground is because it's part of how gravity works which was calculated on a per-frame basis. You still slip in the same places but you slip faster the higher you set the frame rate to.
>>719445263my fps was remastered and “unlocked” to ~60fps this playthrough and it’s literally done with a single roll
>>719445197Fuck off. I've played and beaten both several times, the remaster is superior in all ways except the fires.
>>719444013>platformingThere is no platforming. There are environmental hazards, which are a staple in game design, before everything turned into open world slop Traversal is also a primary mechanic in the game
Still in my top 10. Absolute gold.
>>719445184That's one optional area
>Average nu-souls player who plays the games because it's popular instead of playing it because he enjoys the gamehttps://old.reddit.com/user/Key_Ingenuity_1939
>>719445493This is what having no taste looks like. Play better games.
>>719445657Dark souls 1 is a masterpiece.There is no other game like it.
There are only 5 souls-likes. Demon's Souls, DS 1-3, Bloodorne, and Elden Ring. If you haven't played all four, can you really be called a fan of the series?
>>719445752It's not good game. Ply some shmups for difficulty or an actual RPG and action game to see that it's a middling mess of shit gameplay and combat.
>>719445853>5 soulslikes>mentions six>all four
garbage gamegarbage seriesgarbage company
>>719446191maybe he meant to write 1/3?if so, what a loser
>>719446409this guy plays gacha games
>>719445853Ds3 is not a Soulslike. it's a pathetic attempt to appeal to the "engendering passivity" crowd that Bloodborne sucked in.
DS1>>>>>>the rest DS1 has so many flaws but I can't see how anyone likes this series past this game.
>>719446057Nah, the combat is simple and fun, and the levels are fun to explore. There are very few modern 3d games with the same type of levels. Actual RPGs didn't have good combat. Action games tend to have shit level design.
>tfw playing EldeN Ring for the first time>130hours in and still just in Volcano ManorThis game is WAY to big.
>>719446915Not shit. DS1 is the only one that does connected levels right. Even with that second half, that's still a reality.
>>719444392they put plenty of machinegun crossbow enemies into narrow hallways in elden ring
>>719448165Yeah it does connected levels.As long you ignore Undead Asylum.As long you ignore Super Mario 64 land.As long you ignore the later half of the game and the DLC. As long you ignore all that, you probably have an interconnected area aboug the same size as Godrick's castle to explore.
>>719448427This is a very pathetic seethe. And you can't even ignore the DLC, since it intentionally mirrors Darkroot.
*clank**fsshhhhhh*
>>719448061yes, it kills the replayability though
>>719448706I fucking have to replay it to get the boss remembrances and other shit you can't get in a single playthrough.
>>719448165>connected levelseverything is connected by an elevator
>danger comes from level design, not just le epic phase 2 rollslop at the right timeamazing isn't it?
>>719440227>>719440782>>719441501>>719441657Filling all the souls games with unavoidable janky jumping puzzles and never adding a dedicated jump button until elden ring 6 games into the series proves that miyazaki is a talentless hack fraud and knows nothing about proper game design
>>719440227Try playing with mouse and keyboard next time. It's best for platforming and action oriented third person games.
>>719443901Nta and agree with your point but the thought of going through blighttown via depths kills on replays makes me want to just quit, having the key as a starting gift option is great design
>>719448918Why would they even put those holes in the game if you never fell into them?
>>719443312How can you have been 10 when Demon souls released? It would mean you're a zoomer.
Rorf?
>>719448706I see that a lot and I’ve found it’s not true at all. On new runs you basically just put together your build and then boss rush the main line and anything else you feel like doing. The open world nature means rushing to put you build together means you might do things in a bit of a different order or come at a certain boss under leveled which helps spice things up.If you feel like you have to explore the whole map and every single dungeon again, that’s on you, because you really don’t
>>719449324so the whole game is just a boss rush?
>>719440227git gud scrub lel
>>719449249There's a place where it looks like one of these bastards is snoring, and it ends uo being just a dragon. How did they made a game where bears are more scary than dragons?
>>719449428If you don’t want to explore it again why else would you be playing it?
>>719449428No, that's Dark Souls 3
>>719445657I'm sorry you're african, gotta be my least favorite disability
>>719443076>Is this considered retro yet
Elden Ring would have been better with demons' souls style portals to different worlds rather than stitching it all together with some lame, empty overworld. The main dungeon were amazing but all those in-between zones really sour the game. You should have basically warped straight to Stormveil, Lucaria, Volcano Mountain, redmane fort, leyndell + the sewers, haligtree, farum azula, mohgwynn, and whatever fucking place I forgot about. All the traversal really sucked and was particularly bad in SotE where so much of the world was empty and gated by cliffs to force even longer traversal.
>>719449540Bro, the bears ARE dragons
>>719449564i'm really confused, because it seems as if you're saying that to "explore" is to get your build and then just kill bosses?
>>719449848It's more likely that they just have affinity with dragons because they consume their meat. By that logic everyone using arcane magic is a dragon too.
>>719444443I love Marika's stakes, every souls-like game should have them
>>719450068Elden Ring would be boring as shit without them. Doesn't mean every other souls game needs those.What next, compani- spirit ashes too? Get real faggot.
>>719450068Marika's expose a huge flaw in the design of most areas in ER. The dungeons are so short they don't justify having sites of grace close to the boss gates. They're too short to have more than one grace, but still too big to have you dying and forced to cross from the entrance to the boss gate by foot. So they came up with that solution.
>>719443375Yes. This one's Brady Games, even though Prima did the first Dino Crisis guide.
ER made me realize that these games are full to the brim of anime references, not just Berserk.
>>719450313the only time Marika's beacons are worth anything is against those open-field bosses, but in the vast majority cases, you can just run on Torrent to get there, adding like... 10 seconds to the run? What would've been better is instead of dying and going through a loading screen, just go through a death animation and get glided back to the Marika post, with yourself and the boss reset.
>>719450752Only retards die to bosses in this game anyway.Even the basic 3 wolves spirit ash is too much for most bosses to handle. The Mimic tear or the assassin are overkill. I just stand still and watch my level 10 mimic destroy the game for me.
dark souls 2 is pretty good with a couple of shitty level segments sprinkled in, but then around this area the rest of the game is just dogshit with no highlights anymore. to me it seems like a lot of the issues people had with ds2 are just dark souls 1 issues. ds1 is full of obscene jank and obscurity and some of the worst level design i have seen in action games ever and it took me multiple play attempts to finally get to the end of the game. ds2 and ds3 i beat both with my first character.
>>719450504I remember that Naruto took shit from Dark Souls and went mostly ignored. This is the Homing Soul spell. Or the black equivalent from the DLC.
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>>719451293A lot of people have Dark Souls 2 as their favorite.That game just needs a remake with the original lightning to be perfect.
