How fare your builds? Have you deleted your character and rerolled Deadeye yet or are you holding out (read: coping) for one more day?
>>719447402guys are there any bleed spells like exsanguinate in POE2 yet? i am not coming back until they add them. i played on launch and had to settle for bone spear bleed builds to feel like an actual bloodmage
Leveled a Warrior through half of Act 2, Ascended (it was slow and miserable), then made a Ranger.Said Ranger is at the same point as the Warrior in half the time.
I'm about to go bleed pin tactician, please wish me luck/laugh at me
>>719447402>was exited for the patch>read the patch notes>nerfs to everything>lose all interest in playing patchMaybe they're learn that people want to have fun eventually but it's certainly not today.
>>719447402utter piece of shit game LOLimagine getting mogged by fucking diablo 4
Here are your carefully curated meaningful skill choices, my friend. Use them wisely.
they definitely made all the foes easier. i'm breezing through where the 0.2 amazon i played was sucking a fat dick i guess it's the pander to the endgame RMT farmers who cry the saltiest of tears over how the campaign gets in the way of their map farming.
>>719449342Don't worry, Deadeye LA didn't even get touched.
the nerfs to good things I can.. well I can reason it out.the nerfs to shit skills I just laugh at.. why?same with nerfing passive nodes, its just a joke GGG are fucking retards.
Tencent got rid of bald fucking retard, so maybe in a few years GGG will be able to make a good game again.PoE started going downhill once the other founders left and His Vision was the mandate.
>Oh hey, a free hood? Hell yeah>Oh sweet, more free shit? How come they didn't mention any of this in their promotional material for the Lea->Oh, there's only 3 from Act 1 to incentivize new players and that's it>So the League caps out at 3 "challenges"
>>719449513>Nerf the entire Sorceress kit so that you're forced to interact with infusions and permanently keep 7 different spells on your hotbar to reach the same DPS as previous patches>It is entirely reliant on being able to use Snap on orbs>Hmmm let's change things last minute so that Snap can only snap Frostbolt>Damn that didn't nerf it hard enough. Okay let's slam a minimum 4 second cooldown on that motherfuckerThe mind reels.
>>719447402>Go skeleton>Have to spend five minutes rollslopping because your spirit is low on low levels so you can't get archers to go with your 5+ SkelebrosWhy does GGG hate Necromancers? I thought BALD FUCKING RETARD™ played Diablo 2?
seems like they kinda shit the bed by shipping poe 2 this early, i remember there was so much hype around the game now people just bitch and complain ect ect, hopefully its all fixed once all 6 acts are finished
>>719450996minions are op as fuck though, how can you suck on minions
>>719451013Tradefags never stop complaining. That said, I'm waiting for them to add real builds. This forced mechanic interaction shit to make skills usable kills experimentation.
did async trading fix the game or is it still janky af
It's surprising to think that the game is probably only going to get one more major update before the end of the year given how much of a mess it is.
i dont exactly see where the upgrade from poe is
God, I'm sick of this shit. Where is the second fucking soul core, Doryani?
>dude what if we made elden ring but isometric>fuck yeah that's what gamers want
>>719447402Trying out a Chayula monk with the new blackflame node. getting a balance between fueling incinerate and doing something useful with another skills is a bit tough, but I'm also new to mage skills
>>719452162This but unironically. I love this game.
>>719452073Gee maybe its the green ! on the map you retard
>>719447402now that flame wall got nerfed how the fuck am i supposed to make skeleton archers work? i spend more time doing flame wall than actually using my skeletons in boss fights shit never ignites even with support gems and passive nodes that supposedly make flammability less of an issue.
>>719452316Maybe I am retarded after all.
>>719449175That's me with Monk. I played with a buddy up until the guy at the graveyard and then did it all in a fraction of the time with ranger. Meanwhile I have to fight for my life to get that far.
>>719447402my uninstall wizard is going well
>>719447402The fact that deadeye is still just the fastest and best turned me off. I mean cmon..
Made what I think is a decent warrior volcanic fissure/slam build but fuck me I killed the act 2 boss and the exhaustion has set in. They need to go back to the drawing board on like...90% of these enemies and player abilities.
Give me druid and marauder, I want to rip niggas into chunks.
geuinely think diablo 4 is a better game. did everyone at ggg get fired or something?
My first time playing, I'm a warrior and just ascended. But man I struggled with basically every boss so far, and fissures, and anything that uses magic.
>>719453205Go make a Ranger and play with Lightning Arrow + Lightning Rod.It is wild how much faster it is.
>>719447402its imposible to complete the chaos trial jesus christ it sucks
>>719453303I dunno, I feel like I did that I won't be able to go back.
>>719453343It sucks, but it's far from impossible.Go level up a bit more, come back and try again.
>>719453375*go be a deadeye ranger
I like the idea of Boneshatter for warriors but the enemy troop designs and movement are not built with poe2 melee in mind. They just ported them from poe1 without consideration of the slower movesets of the players, making ranged king once more.
>>719453445Correct in all regards.It doesn't help that you can't move while attacking with melee and many Warrior skills have low attack speed multipliers and/or flat added attack time (read: impossible to scale).On top of the fact that your best AoE skills are novas rather than directed, so you have to be in the heart of danger for them to hit more than like 2 enemies.
>>719453445and they had the fucking audacity to say "we finally made melee fun" in the promo video for the EA, it's pretty clear they don't actually play their game without debug god mode on
Poop Of Excrement II
This game feels awful to play, I feel like I’m moving through quicksand.
>>719449417I hated playing Merc because you have to “load” each ability except for grenades.
>>719453205You honestly need a really good weapon
What is the best class for a brand new player and what should I know about the game in general before going in? Also do I need to have played all of PoE1 in order to know what's going on?
>>719454197Depends on what you want to experience.>The easiestRanger>Deadeye with Lightning skills.>The hardestWarrior or anything Mace-related.>Speed-slapping things with your hand/a stickMonk and quarterstaves.>Blowing up swarms of foesMerc with crossbows.>MinionsWitch>"combos" that barely function prior to endgame, which you won't reachSorc>The middle groundHuntress with spears.
please, is there any blood or exsanguinate related spells in the current build???
>>719454197>Ranger>nothing >no
noob question: why do arpgs make you restart every time they release a new patch? I like to keep playing with my original character in rpgs
>>719454367No lmao.Just bones.
>>719447402I'm playing Last Epoch (reflect druid) instead. Maybe by 1.0 poo2 will be a decent game, but at this point I highly doubt it.
>>719454513why the FUCK is there not any blood spells when there is a FUCKING BLOOD MAGE ASCENDANCY!!!! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO IMMERSE IN THIS FUCKING FANTASY IF IM JUST CASTING REGULAR ASS SPELLS!!!!!
>>719454574GGG has never done anything right intentionally. They always fuck it up spectacularly and occasionally luck into a good idea.
>>719454662its just so fucking annoying, i would literally come back to this game in a heart beat if there was ONE!!! blood spell, meanwhile there are like 500 fucking lich and summoning spells, tons of fire themed spells for infernalist immersion, but only fucking like 1-2 bone spells for fucking blood mage and not a single fucking blood spel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they expect me to settle for the piss little blood animation around my character whenever i cast, fuck that!!!!!!!!!!
>>719454760I feel ya mate. It may be possible they're waiting for Daggers to come out to tie into ritualistic bloodletting or some shit. Anyway, here's some random ass ideas for Blood-themed spells they COULD do.>Vengeful BloodIt's RF, but a Phys dot around your character in a big gorey circle attached to your feet, draining your HP and dealing damage in turn, also granting you % of damage as extra Phys to all Spells you cast.>ExsanguinateExsanguinate.>BloodstormFirestorm, but it leaves bloody degen puddles behind.>SacrificePassively marks bleeding enemies on low HP with a bright red orb, casting it calls down an ethereal blade for each nearby enemy that meets the requirement to consume them and their corpses, empowering your next Blood spells up to X total.
>mfw Journey's End
>>719454550Redpill me on Last Epoch, why do you play that instead of Grim Dawn, Diablo, etc.
>>719451013Hasn't this been in-dev for 5+ years?
>>719453682They level like Elon.
>>719455140Grab Sleepoch's Rip Blood spell while you're at it>Single target spell that tears an orb of blood from an enemy>By default it heals you>The spell can be altered so the orb can be used as a projectile or consumed by other spells
>>719453031It's not that they got fired (although bald retard did) it's that by law they have to prioritize hiring New Zealanders.
>>719454506You can keep playing with your original character, if you want.
I'm playing ED/C lich until I beat act 4 and the filler stuff then quit because poe2 endgame is so fucking garbage I won't even bother
>>719447402NO TEMPLARNO BUY
>>719455140i like all of these, and the bloodstorm idea is the easiest for them to implement, literally just swap the effects of so many elemental spells to have a blood property and i'd be happy, imagine solar orb but its a blood orb and then you have the blast wave interaction with blood orb, causing a massive blood explosion, and its kino. i hope they just give us something, even if its as simple as a swap like im referring to here.
>>719447402got to act 4 and its still boring, why the fuck are the maps so fucking big.
>>719451013People bitch and complain because they have to. GGG is a nigger developer that knows how to make their shit better but refuses to do so until the playerbase beats them into submission.
>>719454574China
I used to play that boner witch, you know, deploy skeletons, summon raging spirits, etchow nerfed did that get in the past 8 months or so, the muslim skeletons were already being nerfed back then I think
>>719457826Minions now suck absolute ass, only viable builds now are:>Deadeye bow shit>Crossbows (good but clunky)>Boneshatter>ED/C>Chaos fireball>Monk is apparently okay
>>719457906well fuck me then alright
What's the point of evasion as a stat if the only attacks that are dangerous are unable to be evaded at all?
>>719447402Went thorns warbringer, just finished a4, has been fun making use of the new shield skills>guhhh ranger is fasteri dont care>but guhhhh the endgamethe endgame is worthless dogshit, a waste of timesee you when act 5 is out
Tencent shill thread
>>719459216Seething troon
>>719457906By viable I assume you dont actually mean viable but just metafaggotry in a singleplayer game?
>>719447402
>>719460006Viable typically means >trivialize the game to the point where you're not even playing it anymore
>>719452162Yes?
>>719460090Ah, of course. Isometric language. I need to brush up my dictionary.
>enemies still aggro from off-screen and run at you mach 5
>>719460156Ah yes, the true souls-like experience we wanted.
>>719460090The only skill like that is LA, viable in this case basically means "a skill superior to the basic attack"
shit game
>>719447402I've been playing Warrior, I wanted to do a fire fissure build.I'm on act 3 now and it's decent at clearing thrash but it sucks so much against bosses, I deal no damage.I spent an hour fighting Jamanra.I will keep going because I'm a stubborn lad but I'm afraid of how much it will take to kill the next bosses. At least I'm immortal most of the time.
>>719451159https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17at16Gccdc
>>719457791i thought they were afraid of skeletons and they have hundreds of skeleton spells
>free week>playing monk>hollow palm>somewhere in act 2>pretty fun so far>tempest flurry, bell, knockback, killing palm, lightning slam, herald of lightningpretty fun so far. the sprint is kinda clunky, really wish they fixed that. also, is ice strike or tempest flurry better overall?
>>719452227What cosmetic is that? Does the node shift skills into purple now?
>>719449414They are not directly comparable.Path of exile 2 is a twin stick shooter like Weird West.If it is viewed like this it becomes a great game.But for an arpg it's bad ye.Roll slop and too slow.
>>719460090how is chaos fireball, which at this point is just one guy theorycrafting and now leveling it, "trivializing the game to the point where you're not even playing it anymore"? even the creator doesn't know that yet?oh wait i know the answer: you don't know shit and are just repeating meta faggotry like a good sheep
>>719450996>GGG "hate" necromancy>The most busted archetype since the first game that not a single fucking patch EVER had toppled it from 2nd most overpowered play style, besides meta.>STILL ASKING FOR MORE!Holy shit you mfkas need to be shot in broad daylight.
>>719459216The game is free right now, there is nothing to shill.If people play during the free weekend and like what they experience, they can purchase the early access, or wait like a reasonable gamer would and play the game for free when it is finally released after a decade.
>everyone and their mother and Alkaizer playing lightning bowKEK
>>719461439>ice strike or tempest flurry better overall?in terms of pure damage, tempest flurryin terms of gameplay, ice strike with its super dash and ice shattering effects if way more fun imo
>>719462468we didn't know how good we had it with the BFRthat guy is simply not very intelligent
>all that butthirt about melee ittplebbitors and retards that cannot make builds without guides exposed. How can you even dare to speak faggots. Only real complaints would be some casters with retarded extra steps to deal any damageBut melee? warrior? Only thing that warrior cares about is weapon damage and stun. Boneshatter is one of the very first avaible screen cleaners and later you actually need to limit your stun buildup to not instantly styn mobs so you can get them primed isnteadcombo is fluid and satysfying. You leap in and this alone either primes the mobs already, or you can sideroll, use whatever attack and then explode entire pack or screen with boneshatter. It fucking deletes bosses especially a2 cunt. All you need is upgrade your weapon every time new base is avaible and now it's even easier than 0.2 due to amount of currency droping. Only complaint is later picking smith of kitava and maps due to armor being simply shit>monksquishy, but you can zoom with ice strike. Hollow pal basically removes the need of upgrading your weapon when leveling. Kinda squishy and chayula requires to apy attention to flames, but still ncie and fluid and you don't need to rely on spamming bells anymorelike, do you fucks even play the game or just parrot opinion from shitters?
>>719449590The challenges are part of the free weekend only. Not sticking around for the rest of the league.
Poop of Excrement 2The Turd Excretion
>>719447402builds?
>>719463581Lightning ArrowLightning RodEverything else is not GGG approved
>>719462605yet he introduced player shops
discord shills are really seething
>>719455194It has the best skill customization in the genre.
>>719457906Minions are busted though.
tectonic fissure/that new hammer skill does good damage
>>719462808The problem isnt the combos they have designed for the classes, but the fact it's entirely outclassed in damage, clear, and safety with ranged damage with the nature of how enemies spawn, move, and swarm like PoE1 but with the sluggish player animations now in PoE2. Having to "set up" something is a detriment compared to just killing it.
I went ED/Cont, dmg is pretty whatever but Lich is tanky so Its nice to learn all the new bosses and their mechanics.Apparently Lich gets some kind of secret Ascendancy Upgrade with the league mechanic so experiencing that would be nice.I have been sick this weekend so I haven't played much, I'm about 1/4 into Act 4.The new story system where your character is involved in the discussions is nice, lots of character unique stuff.
>>719466180LA is a combo build tho
>>719462182it's not a cosmetic, the chaos flame node makes all of your fire spells purple (except flaming skulls it seems)
>>719466250It's a combo that doesnt rely on your enemy gaining certain statuses or forcing you to pull punches so you can "set up" a killing blow. You place your rods that do damage, you fire your arrows that do damage, nothing else needs to be considered.
>>719466381ok but warrior literally has fissures and forge hammer, which both do damage when you use it and does massive damage when you combo them, there is literally no difference. the problem is fucking deadeye.
>>719447402Don't know yet because my build isn't online yet.
What do you use for single target for fire to chaos convert caster?
>commit the sin of not playing a broken build and try to make something for myself>barely manage to get through cruel act 3 with whatever I came up with>immediately eat shit trying to map>lose all interest until next seasonThat's how it was the last two, let's see if that's how it will be this season. Oh who am I kidding, of course it will be like this again
>>719466891They removed Cruel
>>719466348Oho. I know what I am rollin now. Much obliged.
If you don't want to be inefficient, just use this guide to get a hideout then you can roll whatever the fuck you want and buy cheap max DPS weapons for your level to speed up the process of whatever character you want to try out without dying over and over and over to mobs or boss mechanics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFeTRWV_2WE
>>719454161This. None of your gear matters on warrior except your weapon. If your weapon is godly, you'll 20-shot mobs. If your weapons sucks, you'll 400-shot them. The best leveling skill is unironically basic attack for most of the game. If that sentence doesn't make you see the light and switch to any other class, then nothing will.
>>719466517The fissures easily get stuck on walls and don't proc, and while forge hammer admittedly does decent damage, it has an insane wind-up time for no reason along with a cooldown and it's fissures also getting stuck in walls/not spawning. You aren't winning this one, anon. Everyone hates warrior for a reason. Even Alk says it's miserable, and he loves melee.
I tried remnant picking up sorc but at the start of act 3 it was literally the most ineffectual build I've ever played in any arpg so I rerolled the same build I played last time. Then my damage fell off and my mana costs went to the moon and I figured I could just quit instead of fixing those problems.
>>719455243Yes, and they've made maybe 2 years of progress because they keep changing shit.
>>719447402I met this nice girl at a party tonight that told me she had around 3k hours in the first PoE. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
path of dogshit two
>>719468591Ask what archetype she played. If it's anything that requires actually playing the game (e.g. not minions or RF) then that's no girl.
Why do they insist on having tedious trials in their games.
>>719462808You don't quite understand what they mean when they say such things. See, when ARPG fags talk about things being viable, they mean the very best, most OP builds possible, ones that'll basically play the game itself (and on occasion will), anything below those builds in terms of power is deemed not viable or bad. So it doesn't matter if you can beat all the content with a certain build, if it's not the best build possible they'll say it isn't viable.
>>719468591>3k hours in the first PoE>at a party
>>719452162Except they didn't make it like that, which is why poe2 is directionless mess that they try to salvage by turning it into poe1 and failing spectacularly even at that.
I've played monk and necro and haven't touched POE2 in several monthsWhat class should I try with the new update and shakeup to gems?
>>719447402>play PoE2, first time since release>only level 6>abyss, ok fine, rehashed but whatever>chest drops 2 regal orbs and 2 augs>die to on death effects>don't get the loot>remember how much I hate on death effects>turn the game offIt's not fun
I’m playing Huntress and just pathing to every companion node, I’m sure this will be terrible but for now it’s ok. Really hate having bad life though makes me nervous parrying knowing I have like .0X% chance to die instantly
They've had a decade of making a SINGLE game of a SINGLE genre.Why aren't they good at it yet?
>>719466180thats the consant problem with ggg melees. Obviously mace meleetard is sluggish, but at least gets invincibility frames and from my exp i could clear any node with simple leap roll and slam combo despite being armorshitter>>719468869the pinaccle builds don't need guides, those people know what they're doing or playing from the start. In poe1 shitthesis I could make itn stacker cleared UE and basically anything in single second. Meanhwile most people that complain about melee don't really know hwo to play the game unless one of those op guys make an vid or build guide telling them what to do. Obviously, stronger archetypes with shit gear will struggle less, that build that require you to not be retard. And you have whole spectrum of "mid" builds who can also clear everything while requiring some brains put into it, but people prefer the easiest way to most power possible and msotly those who copypaste(and not craft) are the loudest about build being bad/goodat this state of poe2 I'm just palying it like poe1 - pick skill combo i like and build around it. Had nice deal of fun with smith of kitava last patch despite retarded skill that needed to larp as smith for second to deal damage
>>719457906I'm playing twister and it's clearing and killing bosses quicker than galvanic shards did (which got dumpstered this patch)
>>719469431
How's the mercenary now?
>>719469946lots of loyality for a hired xbow
game would be a lot better if they added mercs from d2/the current poe league
Seriously how is the game balance getting worse and worse every single patch?
>>719470003That doesn't explain if he's good or bad now. The patch notes come across as if they thought nerfing every class was smart.
>>719470098because jonathan has a clear bias towards deadeye and no one has told him to fuck off yet. literally shadow nerfed spells right before the patch for no fucking reason
This game is trash, I can't stand to play Act 1 anymore, it's so fucking boring, it feels like playing Diablo 3
>>719470120you're getting memed at my dude, that was not a claim about merc performance
Second half of Act 3>Second half of Act 1>Act 2>First half of Act 3>First half of act 1
>>719470310Act 2 is the best but it also has the worst zone in the game (titan's grotto)
>>719462808>Melee have to press 3 setup skills and build 20 combo points to clear a white pack>Ranged press right click a single time from the other side of the screenMelee feels damn good against bosses where you can build up stun and fucking maul them but complete fucking DOGASS against normal mobs. The abysses are a perfect example, 50 ubercharged giganiggers sprint at you and surround you immediately.
>>719470423I dunno, I'm absolutely in love with the idea of visiting a civilization long past its prime (Drowned City + Apex of Filth) and then revisiting it in its past, at the very peak of its prime right before its downfall. I love the contrast and the implications as well as the visual styles between the two.
>>719470423titan's grotto got much better with sprint, and a lot of zones comparatively like deshar got much worse.
Why is the cash shop on this game so jewish?
>>719470560ye, until i got my setup abyssal casters were some retarded shit in a1-a2at a3 the, at leat for boneshatter, it feels fluid sicne it's 3 button presses that you don't even need to time and everything on the screen explodes so you don't need to repeat it so much outside bossfights
>>719468923I saw her steam account with my own eyes
>>719470848This her?
>tried chayula monk>into the breach:>run around to pick up red, blue and purple things>red heals, blue refills mana slightly>purple gives 1 stack of extra chaos damage for 5 seconds>picking up more purples does not refresh the buff timer>by the time you go into combat your 5 stacks will expire to a single stack>get 2s 7% extra chaos damage>try volatile instead>spend 2 minutes building up a massive stack>get the buff from it when i've been out of combat for a few seconds>get 15 seconds of slightly more damage when there are no enemies aroundI don't get what GGG is trying with this.anyways ultimatum is awful and the game would be better if they removed it.
>>719470953shes cute
>>719471059>anyways ultimatum is awful and the game would be better if they removed it.Yeah... I made a character today, played an hour or two, then I remembered that shit is in the game and now I'm reconsidering my decision to play the game again.
>>719469773Twister is secretly obscene but people have a melty about pushing more than one button
>>719471059Are you literally me lmao I tried the fucking hand shit and dropped it because running around picking up awful buffs felt unbelievably dogshit, went volatile and closed the game after I realised you had to STOP attacking so your could actually get the damage buff that last 10 seconds so it's gone by the time you get to the next pack.
I cannot believe people play this game seriously
>>719471357I respecced into invoker before killing the act 2 boss, it's the only playable ascendancy.I'm sure end game chayula is playable once you invest a bit, but with 2 ascendancy points you're not getting anywhere with it.I wonder what the point of volatiles for other classes is.
Why am i getting one shotted by bosses. This is quite literally dark souls slop
>>719471860why are taking hitsyou are supposed to dodge
>>719472028Sorry i couldnt see with the bajillion particle effects barf all over my screen and shit not isometric enough camera angle
They call it Path of Exile 2 because there's only 2 builds.
WASD in PoE1 when?I was playing merc with crossbow but stopped at the start of Act 3 because i wasn't having fun spamming grenades all over the place
>>719447402I tried PoE2 for the first time as an avid PoE1 fan.It's not AS BAD as it looked on release. I can get pretty efficient with a homemade, blind build (though I exclusively make my own builds in PoE1 so I have some adjacent experience). I'd actually argue that, despite the supposed difficulty, the game is actually easier than PoE1, funnily enough. It's still only half the game PoE1 is, though.
tried playing parties today and it was just a fucking mess. everyone is just spamming aoe attacks cause no one can see what the fuck is going on. good game gotyay right here.
>>719447402i deleted my witch 3 times already, now i think i have the right idea, explosive gas arrows for bosses and unearth/chaos damage for trash.
tiny ass fucking corridor ai generated maps. fucking game sucks. im so disappointed. everything about the game fucking sucks except for the graphics who no one gives a fuck about.
Playing DeadEye Crossbow Galvanig shards, it's the kinoest build I've played on this game so far.
>>719468591It depends on if her feet are cute.
theres nothing redeemable about ultimatum
SOVL
ok but which class is most fun
>>719472973Depends on what you find fun desu. Do you want gameplay or do you want to click loot with as little gameplay as possible?
>>719472837>get hit>dieWOOOOOOOWWWW
>>719472245>WASD in PoE1 when?They said WASD would require redoing all the character models, and the last time they tried doing that it turned into PoE 2.
Why can't they just admit rollslop is a massive mistake?
warrior fissures/ forge hammer looks pretty fucking sick tho
>>719472973Witch
havent played since release, did they finally make hc ssf fun? it fucking sucked how you would be doing a map and then just instantly die to some bullshit
>>719472915wait do you actually get buffed for playing lich witch in this league or is it a story thing?
>>719473148we both know thats not the problem with that fight.
>>719472837the camera angle is so fucking bad. why is it so fucking high up and tilted down?
>>719473223Hardcore will never be fun in PoE it’s just streamer bait
>>719449072You can get a staff with a reap spell afaik (thats it)
>>719473223>did they make the modes that are literally designed to be cock and ball torture funno
>>719472837>two flasksI already hate poe2.
>>719473271I don't know if it's buffed per se but it does actually come with some nodes that are unique to it.Like instead of the unholy might minion nodes you sacrifice them to make yourself stronger instead.
>>7194733252 flasks is fine, the charms that replaced the 3 other slots are not fine.>equip one that protects against stuns>it has 2 charges>get stunned after a third white mob looks at you>charges take forever to refill
>>719473084my nerd brain tells me i want to set up cool combos but i know i'm gonna end up trying to kill shit as fast as possibleat launch i played monk with dual bells and tempest flurry, then i made a minion necro with the fire wall and the flaming skull minions (tried corpse explosion and exploding minions but it was pretty slow come endgame) was really hoping for druid to come with 0.3 but probably looking to try some other class i havn't played with yet
>>719473325With the same recharge system
>>719473430Played a merc with the pin ballistas, galvanic shards and whatever the single target lightning auto fire skill is called. Was heaps of fun, good damage both for clearing and bosses, amazing CC, can throw in some nades in shit in the mix as well. Really liked it.
>>719473712maybe i'll try mercdo they have a way to build stun?i liked my monk cause i'd stack stun buildup get a stun, drop the bells, cast a couple elemental spells to increase the bell damage and wail away and it would just eat through bosses so i was thinking about trying something that took advantage of the fact that you can use multiple of the same support gems to stack tf out of stun buildup
The funniest thing is the game was supposed to come out in 2020. So that means theyve been working on this piece of shit for 10 years and it’s still this fucking bad
>>719474124>do they have a way to build stun?No idea sry.
>>719470593It's not just visual style, Utzaal is coded to have the same layout as Drowned City rolledd in your playthrough because it's literally the same place. You can follow the exact same path to get to Viper (who is sitting where the ambush takes place in Drowned City). Very cool.
When are we getting duelist or assassin?I’m interested in this game but none of the current classes interest me in the slightest.
>>719447402>have to do the campaign againKills any drive to play. Just let me fucking skip this slow ass shit already fucccckkkkk
>>719474423Yeah it's cause of that I'm just going to wait until 1.0
>3 leagues of Deadeye being far and above everyone else so chink gold farmers can have maximum efficiency>melee still trash
>>719474423Well, major patches are every four months now. So Druid in four months, act 5 in eight, swords in a year.
>>719470204>it feels like playing the best arpgoh no how horrible
>>719447402I haven't actually looked into what's good with deadeye but I did blindly pick it on launchday. I'm playing trough chapter 4 now where I'm just spamming electricity gimmicks.
>>719473282Just zoom in then.
>>719452162That would be fucking awesome. Unfortunately not what we got.
>>719447402Deleted my merc after getting to jamnra, I kept running out of mana and while I could've technically killed him with basic attacks in a reasonable (by poo2 standards) time I just couldn't be bothered.
>>719474270Holy shit, really? That's absolutely wonderful, I never even noticed that.
>>719474746Are you retarded?
>>719447402I asked this question yesterday, but got no replies. Maybe someone here will know.I started the game 2, maybe 3 weeks ago, SSF. I am at Act 3. I can't play the game now because I'm not at home right now so I can't check.Do I need to reset the game / character to play Act 4, or am I able to continue to Act 4 with my current character?
Is parry pretty much mandatory for huntress or can I just ignore it?
Rolled deadeye without knowing it's probably one of the only viable things to start, feels good I guess? The game I think is just fundamentally too clunky for most classes to work.What I don't get is that it's been months upon months and so many skills are just shit, they should have plenty of data and time by now to notice this themselvesAlso I have never seen devs that made a sprint button have so many downsides, it should just be an out of combat speed buff, why the hell does it handle very poorly, have microstuns when you collide with terrain or a heavy stun when an enemy hits you (instead of just cancelling it)
>>719475159Probably, they were saying that endgame standard characters would need to complete act 4 and the interludes to get access to maps again
>>719450852My warrior doesn’t do any fucking damage andbI’m in act 3. What skills are good? I’m thinking of going totems because of how slow this is rn.
>>719475159You can keep playing, you'll proceed to act 4 normally.>>719475192The game wasn't designed around sprint at all. They need to have huge penalties if you bump into terrain or get hit so that you don't use it in combat, which would completely devalue movement speed as an attribute (and high MS already breaks the game design, as could be seen in Cruel where you can just casually walk around most bosses' attacks with 20% MS).
>>719475353>>719475509Thank you, anons.
>>719469828What does this have to do with them being shit at design
>>719475192When you sprint let go of WASD and use the mouse to move around
>>719473179Because it isn't. Visual clarity is the issue. If you could always clearly see everything that happened (and ground degens had their damage MASSIVELY toned down), dodge rolling would be completely fine.
Is Monk any good this league?
>>719473363>warriors grant attack damageThat's completely fucking useless.
Poe2 bros...
this game makes me sleepy
>>719477213I mean it's not impossible to path to melee nodes as a Witch/Sorc. I remember people doing Hammer of the Gods on Chronomancer when the game first launched.
I'm here to "save" the karui
>>719477326Troon Quest II flopped btw
>>719477195wave of frost is really good at freezing stuff and works like staggering palm when you build up enough freeze on an enemy.I think freezing lasts for 8 seconds also. Downside is that melee still feels like shit early game, but maybe itll get better later game, Im only level 40 at the moment. But so far its still decent. Still find myself still just spamming stormwave though.Oh yeh, hollowed palm is really good if you wanna go unarmed as its damage is based on skill gem level and speed / crit is based on all of your evasion / ES.So finding gloves with + to melee skills is a huge damage boost.
>>719466517Forget ha.mer is slow garbage, fissures don't overlap, aftershocks don't overlapIghtning arrow and rows is probably not just 10x more effective but 20x more effective. The game is designed like fucking trash by retards
>>719477830>So finding gloves with + to melee skills is a huge damage boost.I feel like I'll never be able to replace these without suffering a large damage decrease
>>719468756redpill me on this so i am prepared
>>719470120Merc is merc. Its just crossbows but less effective than deadeye. It basically exists as a meme
>>719472915>Lich straight-up gets half a second Ascendancy as an alternative to her usual stuffHoly shit. That's actual soul and not that retarded nu-soul with a v all you dipshits spew.>An autocast spell that consumes a Power charge to duplicate any normal Spell you cast at half potency (read: 50% more damage), very cool>Lets you turn Spirit into raw damage, it's okay>Offering Skills affect you instead of minions and can target enemies within Culling range, very mehOverall, I like the themeing, but it is a bit half-baked.
Does the game perform like ass for anyone else this patch? My rig is a couple years old but was handling POE2 on high settings in 0.2 with almost no performance issues. It's stutter city now
>>719447402I'm having fun with unarmed monkJust ascended at lvl 30 (Invoker)I wanna make Wind Blast good, but Storm Wave and Tempest Flurry just mogs it to oblivion
>>719479081They changed something major in the backend, the game won't even launch if your Nvidia graphics drivers are out of date.So I'd say performance tanked this patch.
>>719470779Even in your proposed scenario that's at least 3x less efficient than a deadeye clicking one button and not having to stop moving
>>719470629it's still an empty web of corridors with no enemies or anything of interest
>>719447402The fact they are are even trying to "balance" anything without all of the weapon types / gems in the game yet is actually comedic and a gigantic waste of time.
>>719479081it runs better on my 1080 powered toaster now
>>719479325after being metaslave and then minmaxer I value having fun way more than being as efficent as possible
>>719479081abysses cut by 1.5-2x, other than that it's smooth sailing as usual.
>>719479735>boneshatter >fun after the butchered itEnjoy mapping when you finally get there
>$80 DLC skin>Not even the whole skin
>>719479824playing chayula monk but imo gonna switch to invoker and build chayula again at endgame coz it sucks when levelingI played boneshatter last pach as mentioned. Both 0.2 boneshatter and 0.3 monk are slower than deadeye yet i'm having fun jumping from enemy to enemy via ice strike and hollow palm removing the need for crafting weapons until much later
>>719447402>Crush everything with good old summoner>End of act 1>Big Abyss monster spawns from just 1 lane Abyss>It walks up to me and instakills meYeah, thought it was just me, but seeing people drop left and right including Ziz makes me just want to wait for a patch
>Jonanthan actually UNDID the dodge roll fix in 0.2, so you now get trapped in seas of abyss mobs and can't roll out of being raped to death before your attack windup animation can finishSee you guys in a week when GGG starts releases emergency "bugfixes" to salvage their hemorrhaging playerbase, holy shit.
>>719480048the big one with multiple arms?it's slow as fuck, just snipe it since he catss for like 3 seconds
>>719480161Yup, it came around a corner and just 1 tapped me. Sure, my fault for letting it get into melee range. But come the fuck on with that dmg
>>719480250I know their damage is retarded, but after like 2-3 deaths when leveling so you're not losing anything of value, you can learn ez without wathcing retarded streamers being retarded fucks, doing retarded thinks and then expecting to use I PLAY HC card to pretend they're not braindead cuntswatch the animations, 3 out of 4 long catss are free for melee to get in yet alone for rangedin a2 there's abyss zone with giant hole spawning like 3 of them at once, enjoy
>>719469828And how much of that are bots and chinks?
>>719472837Thank you for reminding me why i stopped playing the damn thing.>rollslop>two flasks>souls slop>particle effect vomit>fucked up camera
>>719447402Game still sucks bigly. They should really just start over but only after firing Troonathan into the sun.
i played it for 10 minutesit was shituninstalled
Did they nerf freeze buildup on enemies at some point? I used to freeze packs with Permafrost Bolt linked to Chain easily at launch, now with the massively buffed freeze buildup it feels harder to freeze enemies
Lorelet here, why did Utzaal go from Aztec-super civilization to a (formerly) underwater city full of inbred neanderthal descendants?
>>719482346They nerfed freeze buildup by around 80% across the board during 0.1 because they got angry at people using cast on freeze to bypass comets long casting time, and since comet could freeze it enabled semi-afk spell loops.
>>719482346They nerfed it at least 6 times since launch
>>719449342I don't know what the fuck you guy are talking about I am steamrolling through the campaign as warrior already on act 3. This is the first time where my experience just directly contradicts almost all the feedback I've read.Like what are you guys doing? You even get to parry almost all attacks now except for the red ones, are you stupid? Are you dense?
>>719482346>it was fun?>NERFEDfirst time playing poe i see
>>719482807warrior is still one of the easiest characters to playthrough acts on, he's an acting champ. boneshatter + perfect strike carry you through the entire campaign effortlessly, and armour is especially strong early game
>>719482679>Way back when, Sin, the Hooded One, decided that gods were dicks and created the Beast to seal them away>The Beast was a literal mountain with reality shaping properties>Eventually people mined into the beast and used its crystallized blood to make gems that cast magic>The most advanced of these magitech civilizations was the Vaal>The Vaal Queen, Atziri decided to commune with the Beast, she wanted immortality, beauty, and her own pocket dimension>The Beast gave her that but it also spread a wave of madness and corruption across the world>All Vaalish citizens that had been exposed to the magitech (Read, all but a few tens of thousands) went mad, mutated, and started murdering each other>Vaalish civilization collapsed overnight>Utzaal was somewhat preserved because Doryani thought this might happen and prepared seals and the flood to protect the city and keep out corrupt guys I guess>Eventually some unrelated jungle tribals found an abandoned temple and settled there, I guess the latent corruption kept them alive as they declined further and further
> Shart of CrapstoolWow, people still play this shit?
>>719482807Lots of PoE1 players have genuinely never done gone through acts without copying an amazing leveling build and curbstomping everything to then fund their “real” character
>>719483197Name some better games than POE2. >inb4 POE1
>>719483529poe1diablo 2 (with mods)grim dawntorchlight 2titan quest
>>719483529>>719483612fucking titan quest II too, which only has 8 hours of content right now at best
>>719483905>quality over quantityno wae
>>719451159If I'm not casting 50 skeletons, I don't want it.>>719460535Also this.>5 skeletons>Doing 20 damage maximum>to a boss>Having to Yakkity Sax around and rollsloppa for 10 mins because you no longer get "Summon Skeleton" skills in a gem so your weapon which has it equipped doesn't do meleeI'm facepalming at all these decisions. All they had to do was redo Diablo 2 (PFR's favorite game supposedly) and yet somehow "TEH VISION™" happened and fucked THAT up.
>my first exalted orbthis is really boring
>>719483529any game that doesn't take 4 fucking attacks to kill a single white mob
>>719484157That’s like the first boss in the game and he hasn’t even spent any skill points it’s a joke video making fun of people struggling
>>719478301I think 1+ to melee skills will do way more damage than what them gloves provide, if I am wrong tho these are just good gloves anyway, I always just use gloves as a damage boost only.
Redpill me on mercenary now
>>719462808Rolling slam cancelling into boneshatter feels like dogshit to use (mainly because rolling slam has horrible movement) and even with range bonuses it's not that great. Replacing it with leap is better but still ignores the main problem with warrior in that you have to get right into a mosh pit with the mobs and you aren't that much more tanky than the rest.Meanwhile some faggot with a bow can clear the map safer and quicker than you can.
>>719484643the downside to +1 skills is the mana cost, it might be fixed now though.
>can't use log-out to teleport to town anymore
>>719484689>rolling slam feels good in closed alpha>release, it sucks so hard and is extremely slow, tacked on +1.5 sec attack time>makes it much faster in 0.2, still not that good>re-nerfs it again to +1.5 sec attack timethe devs have dementia brain damage, there's no other explanation
To all of you who are shitting hard on the game, what do you consider is a good alternative to it and why?
Giving warrior a try, planning to stack stunNeed to take a look at support gem options
>>719485234>its shit but since its the only shit why dont you eat it?
>>719482807Their "fun" is holding down one button and blowing up the entire screen.Some builds are fucked, for sure, but most of the people bitching are poe1 diehards who haven't faced a real in-game challenge in 10+ years.
>>719484376git gud.
>>719485495>retarded meme from blind fanboyslike clockwork with you shills
>>719485461taking 10-15 minutes to kill an act boss isn't a real in-game challenge, it's mindnumbing tedium. the challenge isn't avoiding the bosses attacks, it's keeping up the willpower to not go comatose for a few seconds and die in one hit to the extremely obvious boss attacks. if you want a real challenge, you aren't playing a fucking diabloclone, or really any ARPG at all, it's just fundamentally not a challenging genre.
>>719485461>taking 3 hours to kill bosses is funyou'll love wow
>>719485418Not that anon but I also wonder the same thingI play PoE1 every now and then and enjoy it, but my PC cant handle endgame juiced content so I always quit early.And I don't like how GGG handles balance in either games.
>>719485636git. gud.
>>719485418>>its shit but since its the only shitIts not. There's over a dozen other relevant ARPGs out there which all play differently, so I want you to tell me which one is better than PoE2 and why.
>>719486234> There's over a dozen other relevant ARPGs well you know them so you tell me
Made sorc and hit a huge wall by act 4. Infusions are not it, at least not firestorm and comet.Rerolled warrior and got to maps in half the time.Farming currency before making a merc but not sure if tactician ballista or witch hunter and go ice or something crazy with the dual tree they have now
Who’s the fucktard that decided streamlined rounds needed a reload negative on top of the -60% damage? Why the fuck do so many things in this game feel pre nerfed for my convenience
>>719486416Do you just not play video games or are you the most normalnigger of NPCs ever that anything outside of the masses doesn't exist to you? Surely if you want to play an ARPG and this one isn't doing it for you you would go out and try others, right?
>>719482807>warrior>parryyou are a shill. Please fix your script, this post makes no sense
>>719484689they nerfed that combo explicitly in 0.3 by adding 0.5 seconds to the attack time of rolling slam. It was decently easy to pull off last patch
>>719487363any game that is complete is a better game than poe2 right now. Literally any of them. I would play grim dawn, poe1, last epoch, and D4 over poe2 simply because they are feature complete and don't have head scratching balance and design issues plaguing the experience at every turn. Are they as good graphically? Or do they have better animations? No. But they are complete experiences with cohesive design structures that aren't frustrating to muddle through
So how do I just not get one shot as monk against this stupid faggot wolf guy?
>>719487605Thank you, that's a good reason and explanation for your frustrations with it, I just wish it didn't have to be baited out with previous insults for it to come out.
>>719487605last sleepoch is absolute garbage
it doesn't matter whether warrior is strong or weak the real problem is it's simply not fun
>>719487384Nta but can’t Warrior parry since heavy stun is based off life or whatever?
I LOVE PLAYING PATH OF LIGHTNINGEVERY FUCKING CLASSEVERY FUCKING BUILDIT'S ALL FUCKING LIGHTINGEVERYTHING ELSE IS SHIT
>>719487363guess which one is free this weekend fucking retard
>>719487959I feel the same for the Witch minion build, it's not bad but it's just not fun to play. It's basically playing a clunkier huntress with extra steps, I don't know what the fuck GGG's problem is.
>>719488545no you fucking retard, like I said, check your shill script before posting about the game. Parrying requires a buckler which requires dex which means you are likely not playing warrior but playing huntress. It is also terrible at parrying bosses since you get instantly stunned because they didn't change how bad their stun formulas are. The post is from an absolute shill
>>719489923Bro he’s in fucking act 3 he can use a default buckler you retard he’s not hitting a stat limit yet
>>719447402I'm doing an invoker hollow palm buildIt is the same as my last invoker which usedStorm Wave for clearing and then bell + staff + charged staff for bosses.LVL 55 doing the interlude acts now. Only bullshit boss in act IV was the benedictus boss. His lightning damage was one shotting me at 1k hp and 40% lit res. The Lingering Expression is amazing. I have no issue generating power charges anymore. Act 4 was fun barring the one area where you had to fight 5 trials and get +1 to attribute or +1 res per trial.Act 2 still sucks Act 3 still sucks, but at least the first two labs are fine now. It isn't a nightmare to run them.I give them 1 more year and they will have the campaign in a better state. I really hope they cut the length of most of these maps. The Hunt mechanic and the Abyss mechanic are boring. But, they are meant to be little things to do so I don't have any issue with them.
>>719490119lol, lmao. Stat limits are more restrictive in acts. You won't have enough dex to splash and get your gem requirements. You're full of shit if you are pretending you are parrying anything in this game. It's such a laughable statement to anyone who has spent any amount of time playing. Parrying is a non-starter. Anyone reading this thread who isn't a shill. Do not go into this game thinking you can le epic parry the mobs. It''s a shit game for retards
>>719482807reading this thread yeah these guys are retarded. im blasting through everything as a monk right now at act 4. i dont understand how people claim to struggle so hard with this game.
Is the hot demon bitch a viable option?
>>719490486Yeah they fixed it so it actually scales off your weapon dmg now.
>>719447402Tried the deadeye (coming from a Monk on "release"). It's insane how fast and strong it is compared to my monk life which was fucking miserable...
>>719487384>>719489923>>719490389dont you get a similar thing with tall shields blocking that plays just like parry? i think he's just using the wrong word. and you are absolutely sperging out right now like a weirdo over nonsense btw.
I'm having fun with my Hollow Palm Monk.I just wish meleeing regular packs or half the golds wasn't suicide, I have to play almost exclusively ranged until I fight a boss.
>>719482807Poe1 is a pure knowledge game where, if you know the builds and crafting etc, you are immortal and 1-shot everything including bosses. This is why poe1 players are genuinely the worst gamers and they always get panic attacks when playing other games.Now they want poe2 to be like poe1. Steel mage recently played a 0 button build in last epoch and said that that is his ideal dream gameplay for arpgs, let that sink in. They are unironically worse than gacha players. If ggg gave every build 10000x life and damage and made it completely impossible to lose, poe players would call it the greatest patch ever.
>>719490389>lol, lmao.>a non-starter.>shit game for retardsis this the average Poe player? Someone that relies on league starts while shitting on other people for trying things while also knowingly playing a shit game but playing anyway? how sad
>>719491089>Now they want poe2 to be like poe1protipif you want a sequel to a game you want the same game but betteryou dont buy a sequel and expect a completely different gamebut what would a shill know
>>719491089The dopamine hit from arpg or diablo clones is the lead-up to being OP and the effort it took to get your build running with the synergies of your skills.Poe2 tried to emulate the cooldown based combat of d3 and failed hard because everything is laggy as shit with animation commit. Killing Palm into Charged Staff sounds good on paper, except it doesn't warp you instantly on a mob regardless of range, it has an animation. Then turning around and using charged staff on the group of mobs takes more time.Using a backstep to spawn a frostmine, walking back to hit and pop it for an explosion sounds good but the mine explodes instantly and you lost all your damage. It's all the little things that makes the game tedious and boring to play, because you know exactly what you should be doing but on the execution level you're getting cucked by the game itself.
>>719491089>retard>watchs retardswhat a surprise
I'm getting sick of the "you can play anything!" crowd of fucking white knights who constantly defend dogshit balance especially in a game where your only objective is just to kill things, if you take 100x longer to do so than something else the game is objectively a much worse experience and your build is untenable
>>719491378
why is gran turismo 8 like 7?i expected it to be god of war!
Barely beat that vaal viper chick having 0 chaos res. Tact is kind of rough. Then got 1 shot a few times too many with the next boss so finally bought new gear. Also why is the buyout market nerfed to only being act4+? Seems retarded
>>719491078>try it in act2>get swarmed by packs of mobs and die instantlyI hate poe design philosophy of league starters so fucking much. Either let me skip to endgame or design your shit so i can play fun stuff from the get go.
>>719491462i go into these games blind and dont follow build guides. idk what the meta is other than deadeye which i just so happened to pick last time i played.and i have no problem getting to far end game content just playing blidnly. yes you can play anything and do what you want, the thing about these games thats fun is making a build and optimizing it. not one shoting everything also, see >>719491516
>>719484157Like, I'm level 12 and finally got a rank 4 support gem to where poison is actually able to decent damage to level 12 enemies now. But Jesus Christ, why the fuck is the early game so painful for this build? In Diablo 2 at the same level, I'd have 10 skeletons, a golem, and they'd be hard-carrying me (literally) through act 3 already.All these post-D2 ARPGs fail at Necromancer because they don't understand you want 20+ mooks that lag your PC that piranha enemies.BFR should understand that, but somehow doesn't because he has a bug up his ass about ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM.
>>719491618then you have to actually play said "build" and realize it's absolutely fucking dogshit and the combat is abhorrent
>>719491618There's a metric boatload of really fucking awful ascendencies and builds in this game that can't reach end game content, hell some of them are so bad they can't even clear the acts.
>>719491798im literally one shoting everything as an unarmed monk right now. im clearing through all the act bosses ine the first try. fully blind build btw. when you play these games without guides and use your brain and engage with the mechanics you learn how to make decent builds that can do good dps.
>>719491934i had to abandon an witch character and a huntress character last league. part of the fun is trying to make a build and see how far you can take it. sometimes that means restarting and trying again
>>719491618and if you play naked you will take even longer to kill stuff!go retard do it. its what you love
>>719491994The fuck are you even using? All monk skills till tier7 gems are fucking shit.
>>719491378So if they rename the game you'll stop crying? Are you for real?
>>719449580>bald fucking retard,who?
>>719492186That might be fun for you but leagues are only a few months long and a lot of us have other things vying for our attention and time and actually have jobs. It takes many hours to slog through the acts to even reach whatever sad excuse of an end game this game even offers. Then you have their "vision" which can often nerf whatever build you create on a whim even if it doesn't need nerfing.
LOL what a bunch of losers
>>719491421Maybe my question is why you don't find being immortal and 1-shotting the screen boring. Like how can you possibly find THAT engaging?
>>719457906>play monk and warrior last patches and always a slog until near endgame>pick witch this patch and literally just steamrollingI guess it can fall off later but as of act 2 its been 10x easier and probably could have dropped all my gear and ran it naked.
>>719492556Because you don't get to that point until after you've engaged with the game for 100+ hrs to BUILD your character and you ran out of content to do, and by that time you're like "good job well done let's level something new with different skills and do it all over again"
>>719462468why did he do it?>DUR IM JUST FIXING MY GLASSES xDsure jon sure
>>719492556because none of the enemies have any interesting mechanics that make combat more engaging? how do you find tapping buttons many more times against enemies that just zerg at you and try to run into you to do damage fun?
>>719492750>because none of the enemies have any interesting mechanics that make combat more engaging? how do you find tapping buttons many more times against enemies that just zerg at you and try to run into you to do damage fun?ThisThe people that say POE1 is one button blow up the screen all the time are retards. That's at the end, when you are nearly done playing anywayIn POE2 it's the same thing only the mobs b-line to you at giga speed and the AI tells them to try to live inside of your characters hitbox and you do the same thing you do in POE1 only you need to press 40 buttons and roll all the timeIt's exhaustingYou don't need to take my opinion though, the player retention proves it
>>719492689??? There is never a point where you don't 1-shot every enemy. It starts in campaign already.
>>719493067Oh, you're a shill, got it
>>719493117You don't 1-shot enemies in poe1? Anon, your build, I'm so sorry...
>>719493585yawnPlayed the campaign hundreds of timesWatched endless racesYour statement is false and easily provable to be false, hundreds of thousands of hours of videos disproving itHence you are a shill
I'm getting AMD driver crashes. Can't play.
>dark souls bonfires every 10 mwhat the fuck is this
>>719494047you wanted a different sequel and you got itdont worry poe3 will be uncharted like the shills want it
>>719493858Either your drivers are acting up or the game may not work well on very specific setups.AMD drivers have been surprisingly stable for me in recent times compared to when I bought a RX570 some years ago. I'm even using Optiscaler to force fsr4 in PoE2 and it looks great.
>>719447402lightning spear Amazonit's a bit too strong, but in a sort of boring way. whilst i don't really mind, goes against what supposedly they are going for with poe2. i actively tried to experiment and combo with the other things they give you, but just using more lightning spear is always better. like at the highest tier you get some Ultimate type skills. one is a big snake strike that looks cool. but it has to spend Frenzy charges and lighting spear just does that better, especially with my scaling elemental attack.and some Solar beam spear which requires Glory. you have to stun 3 rares with no downtime to get enough to use this once, or Glory just goes away for some reason. if there are 3 rares on my screen and i've stunned them, everything on screen is already dead, or i am. "well, perhaps to make use of it i should figure out some way to scale more stun build up and see if there is a way to get more Glo-" no, perhaps i should just press Lighting Spear more since it already does everything. i never got to press this button a single time, so i dropped the gem on the floor. i have barrage which is fine, it buffs lightning spear.i put "lightning exposure when shocking" on storm lance, that seemed like a good idea. but according to the details page Lance is like 4% chance to shock for some reason... so perhaps i should just make a second lightning spear setup to debuff with exposure, for my main lightning spear.i have the culling strike skill and parry to get some Frenzy charges, to spend on lightning spear. i hardly use them because its annoying and not really necessary after killing everything, with lightning spear. but at least i have a smooth ride through the game and not crashing out like all the streamer clips i've seen.
>>719492354ive been playing during the weekend for 16 hours. im almost done with act 4. not planning on playing for long after i finish the new interludes.and it doesnt take long to find out if a build is so bad you gotta restart. by act 2 end boss you can tell imo. and it takes like 4 hours to get to that point. no need to throw the "im a serious adult with serious responsibility and a job" card on me. that doesnt apply. the acts take about 24 hours max to finish which is a reasonable length for a single player campaign.>>719492278storm wave, falling thunder, herald of thunder, the bell. my dps was mid early game but ones i got the hollow palm skill node it immediately tripled my dps.
Ben should really learn how to play the gameThat guy sucks
>>719447402DLC? Its 0.3? They are releasing DLC and the game is in early access? What a bunch of fucking kikes lmfao
kys troon
>>719475418I'm halfway through Act4 using Volcanic Fissure and Rolling Slam. The damage is good but sometimes rolling slam's incredibly slow animation makes me eat shit.
>>719447402Waiting for them to figure out what they want to do with the game. They're all over the place. I played last patch on something entirely different (minions) and it felt like shit. Is anyone playing Mortar Cannons? Are they any good?
>>719493808well... show a video then, prove him wrong.
Mercenary is unplayable because I have to listen to him constantly quip in his bri'ish accent
>>719491089yeah they basically treat these games as a power fantasy even though it's not fun it's fun for them somehow
>>719491934yeah, some devs say that "noob traps" are part of the experience. in reality it's just they are fucking dogshit at balancing so they make an OP meta class and then worthless trash like...I dunno, Pastry Chef (+100 to baking sweets) and try to defend having Pastry Chef as adding "complexity" when all it is is a stupid fucking noobtrap. god i hate pathfinder so much...
>>719495414Actual retard.
>>719494832>the acts take about 24 hours max to finish which is a reasonable length for a single player campaignnot when you've already done them like 30 fucking times
>>719495794>well... show a video then, prove him wrong.>prove him wrongAs if you aren't himGo watch any leveling video from scratch retard.Your contention is that POE1 the entire timeRegardless of buildFrom the startIs press one button blow up screenIt's such a stupid shill position that you stick out like a sore thumb
>>719479314Did you even start the game? All you have to do is click OK and then you're taken to the main menu. I haven't updated my Nvidia drivers and I won't until they're out without any news of bricking cards for at least 4 months.
>>719447402I finished act 1 and got bored, I can't do this shit again and again and again...go on without me, bros
>>719494756Lightning spear as Amazon still good? Didn't they nerfed both ls and amazon?
Running around near the end of act 2 dressed in beginner gear I got from act 1, the game has been out for almost a year and they haven't fixed loot, what's the point in a fucking ARPG if nothing ever drops loot.
>>719498218have you crafted anything good yet
>>719447402Boring genre
>>719498259The crafting never gives you anything worthwhile, don't even try that TalkativeTri shit.
I like being able to use multiple skills, thats the fun part.having gear not drop and having to do sanctum or ultimatum to get a mediocre ascendancy sucks though.
>>719498504my best gear always comes from crafting. gotta start tapping in to that
>>719498583You can tell monk is GGG's favorite class. Actually has the combo and animation flowiness they can't nail with the others
>>719498360Where can I see the full distribution?
>>719498504Literally skill issue. You craft until you succeed. Eventually you'll get something decent during campaign. You don't need good items during campaign, you need workable items for your class during campaign.
>>719491089 But poe2 gameplay is literally the same shit what are you even talking about? I click lightning arrow and everything dies
>>719490947No. You do not get a similar mechanic to parry on tower shields. Apparently you have never played the game
>>719499091you get like a heavy stun thing and it makes a yellow orb on them similar visually to a parry, mr autismo.
>>719491104You cannot 'try' parrying with a shield in poe2. It is not a mechanic that exists
How's story in PoE 1? Is there some fun power fantasy and MC wank like in Grim Yawn?
>>719491618>yes you can play anything >I'm playing deadeye btwIdiot
>>719499378im playing unarmed monk, idiot.
>>719499181>heavy stun and parry are similar mechanics>shields having anything to do with heavy stunRetard
fuck this guy in particular>32 deaths on characterhalf of them must have been learning this guy just now
>>719447402>Have you deleted your character and rerolled Deadeye yet or are you holding out (read: coping) for one more day?I was smart enough to start Deadeye.
which one of these for ice strike invoker monk? i'm kinda leaning towards the the +25% mana regen because running out of mana and mana pots in long ass boss fights feels real fucking bad. had to take the +20% mana reg +15% mana cost efficiency node to help with this shit. also, the worst ailment threat is frozen, which a charm takes care of. but if mana isn't an issue at all late game, then it's a waste.
>>719502461Stun threshold if you don't have stun immunity from somwhere.
>>719502572i'm using stun + frozen immunity charms but i do notice i'm getting flinched sometimes in my combo. is that what it'll help against?
>tried blood mage ascendancy for shits and giggles>initial node not doesn't even fucking converts manacost into life cost it just adds life cost on top of manacost>not only that but if you convert manacost into healthcost in some other wave it stacks on top of itThis got to be a fucking joke, what is the point of this retarded ascendancy again?
>>719503659Feel the weight
>>719480440>watch the animations>in an arpg The entire screen is fire, there are no animations.
>fighting gorilla boss.>screech noise indicating hes gonna do an attack you gotta dodge>he just does a backflip>noise happens again>nothing happens this time>no noise this time, randomly slams pillar one shotting mejfc
>>719450996>mfw using the same staff for two hundred hours because of the spirit
Is it hard to unfuck passive skill tree? Can I experiment?
>retards unironically complaining about meleeWhat fucking game are you guys playing? The story acts are piss fucking easy as anything unless you absolutely try to fuck up your build and equipment. The game doesn't need to be any easier. Do you consider dying once or twice to a boss "hard"?
>>719504391you could fap between animations since this shit game is slower than my dead grandmother
>>719503659The point of that node is the other effect it has, retard. >>719503721You're also retarded.
>>719505485it only costs gold, so if you sell all blues you can stack up a full reset at level 40, no idea how it scales beyond that.you can change ascendancies aswell if you bring enough gold to refund all points to the end of a trial (might have to be the highest tier you've done).So yes, you can fuck around.
>play modern arpg clicking game>within 5 minutes of creating a character I already have multiple aoe damage skills that obliterate whole screens of fodder enemies, I've already filtered the loot to legendary(or unique or whatever it's called in the particular game) only because there's no reason to bother with anything less, I can't spam hard enough to run out of mana even if I try, nothing is any threat but boss mobs, I don't even notice when enemies have tags unless it's extra health and they take two hits from my spammable aoe damage move instead of one, and 90% of the gameplay seems to be theorycrafting builds with the 700 different passive "0.6% chance to gain 3-8 dingleward charges when aoe instakill x hits an enemy that's already under the effect of pointless debuff y" type skillsWhy do these developers lack restraint? The thing about the Diablo 2 endgame is that it was THE END OF THE GAME. Do they really think the 'spend 50 hours grinding for the most min-maxed set to melt every boss in 5 seconds on the hardest difficulty instead of 7 seconds with your suboptimal grinding set' part was the real draw of Diablo 2?
>>719505609Yes. If I’m paying attention I shouldn’t ever die even going into fights and areas completely blind. If a game expects or even rewards foreknowledge it’s a shit game and that attitude is why every faggot zoomer instantly opens up a wiki when they start a new game.
>>719447402Are werecats playable yet?
>>719485670You sound like you copy/paste all your builds.
>>719506418you sound like a retarded shill
>>719484157Finally near the end of Act 1/Free Weekend gimmies and christ leveling this up to get THREE (3) ARCHERS was painful. Now that I'm level 17 and able to do 3 archers 2 warriors it's not that bad damage wise, but Jesus Christ GGG really needs to take a good long hard look at their classes and the leveling curve for the archetypes they want.
>>719491421Pretty much this. GGG wants you to do all these wacky combos to kill anything, but forces you into long clunky animations with no fallback plans. It's just horrible design-wise.
>>719497914>They're going to add another SIX (6) ACTS.PoE1 was already bloated with FOUR (4) ACTS during Early Access and when they F2P'd it, I can not imagine how long this campaign is going to be when Act 1 is taking me like 12 hours to finish.
>>719502461Pretty much all characters get the mana regen.
>Mogs you
>>719506713Not another 6. Just 6. No interlude acts on release.
>>719506713So what? Why are you complaining about more content? >m-muh endgame dopamine metafag shitfestJust go play a gacha or something
I wish I could play fist monk and use wind strike 10 times per second, just like my animeswould be epic
>>719506418It'd be the opposite. A build copy monkey would have no troubles with any content, act bosses are swept in a few minutes, as the difficulty in a Diabloclone is entirely based upon how good or how bad the build used is, player skill is mostly unimportant.
>>719506713The 10 acts in PoE1 are kino. I hope they make 20 this time. It doesn't matter anyway, you can hoss through them in like 7 or 8 hours. That's a reasonable time to expect players to spend on levelling.
>>719497939They nerfed it's interaction with frenzy charges, gutted your ability to generate them, and slightly nerfed amazon in general but you can still waltz through the campaign with only basic LS tossing. It's boring now because of the changes, there is no extra level to the build.
>>719507205it was fun for a bit, but every character used the same passive tree layout
>>719506713>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE GAME THAT I PAID TO PLAY I WANT TO SKIP THE GAME SO I CAN PLAY THE GAME??? the fuck is wrong with you
Is incinerate a thing in this game? I'd like to try it. If not I'll probably go flicker strike somehow.
PoE2 has taken every good part of path of exile 1 and either removed them, or changed them into something shit.The worst part is the dogshit movement.
>>719508168Yeah I'm glad they fixed the movement in PoE2, the constant zooming in 1 was fucking awful.
>>719508168How do you mean, anon?
>>719508019Incinerate is in the game and is like PoE1 but I don’t know enough about it to tell you if it’s good
Chronomancer and it was unbearable but now I'm halfway through Act 4 and it's starting to work
>>719507768So basically frenzy means nothing to LS now. Mhm so less damage but still amazing clear speed. If nerf is actually only less dmg with enough investment it will still be the best map blaster skill.
>>719507881He wants to hit endgame with his metabuild as fast as possible (ideally via a skip button) so he can get his dopamine trickle by auto-clearing screens over and over again, just like in PoE1. The thread is full of them, I assure you these faggots didn't read a single line of dialogue in the game and likely alttabbed out for the dialogues/cutscenes they couldn't skip.
Finished Act 4, it was really good.
>>719505989I do hate how it always feels like the first skills you get are just literally always the best skills for each class and there's never any reason to use the later ones.
>>719508562It's still "good" but nowhere near as satisfying as it was last patch. I'd argue they went at nerfing it the wrong way because they took it's interactions away and left most of the damage intact.
Isn't this Lich ascendancy supposed to be for minions? Why is Ghazzy pushing infernalist minions again in this new patch then? Is Lich that shit?
>>719508565I'm doing both.>follow a good starter build so clearing the acts is smooth>enjoying the story for the first time>clicking all the dialogue options>listening to all the lore bits in the world>fully exploring every map>doing all side quests>taking in the scenery in the levels>endgame, switch to a cookie cutter build>get joy out of mapping quickly and getting items/currency to sell/buy better stuff with>rinse and repeat until it's exploding screens and the game almost plays itself500 hours later, and I've thoroughly enjoyed myself. I'll do it again in a couple of years maybe.
>>719508565isn't that the fucking point of this godforsaken genre? why the fuck don't you faggots go play a dark souls game if you want muh slow and meaningful combat that rapes my ass so badly
>>719509651Lich is Occultist.
>>719508565It's a sickness and it's disappointing we have to deal with these mongoloids screeching 24/7
>>719510197This game wasn't made for you, this is not PoE1, there's a reason it's a new game and not just another league.
>>719510587Aww.. so i gotta wait eight more months for the dedicated minion ascendancy?
>>719510932Apparently Druid is meant to be the "Summoner Archetype" of PoE 2, think thats the next class releasing in 4 months.
>>719510932They said they don't want to have a dedicated minion ascendency. Best we are going to get is trees with some minion stuff on the side I think.
>>719510664>This game wasn't made for you, this is not PoE1, there's a reason it's a new game and not just another league.>not poe 1You got that right. Game is dead by the way. This is a free weekend pushed everywhere all over twitch and nobody is playing and it's only 3 days inSo enjoy the game for now I guess
>>719511454>They said they don't want to have a dedicated minion ascendencyFucking cringe ass no fun allowed bullshit
>>719511454Oh, then I guess that loops around to Lich's minion boosts for being in the Presence of their master wasnt strong enough to be better than infernalist>>719511442I guess the return of the zookeeper drood would be nice to look forward to
>>719447402is sorc fun? Already tried war and hunt
>>719511515Minionfags are such turbo gays >if I can’t summon 5 skeletons and beat the boss doing nothing else the game is broken
>>719511658Yes. It's a fucking NECROMANCER. Do you not know what that word means? You clearly fucking don't.
>>719511657I'm personally having a good time with Spark/Frost Bomb/Flame Wall (with a few exposure nodes on the tree I get 99% elemental exposure on rares and ~60% on bosses, damage feels great) but a lot of people are saying it's abysmal dogshit so YMMV.
>>719511658die bitch
Redpill me on the best huntress build to get to hollow palm as soon as possible. I hate doing the "play some other strategy for 50 levels then switch" bullshit. I want hollow palm ASAP.
>>719487949Wrong.
alright bros. ice strike palm invoker monk is really fun. hit late 30s and build started to finally come online.>ice strike>glacial cascade>tempest bell>hand of chayula with ele weakness and temporal chains>frozen locus>charged staff>ghost dance>combat frenzyi'm finding all the skills useful, so no 1-2 button spam yet. i'm sure a meta build is gonna clear faster but you're fucking teleporting around kung fu kicking mobs in the face. and the damage burst when you drop a bell on a boss is dopamine inducing. bell was so finicky when i first started but the charged staff aoe makes it consistent now.
>>719511454>ohhh we don't want to have an X-ascendancy because that feels like it's forcing you into a specific class>anyways here is our lighting spellcaster themed ascendancy I don't get this specific retardation of theirs.
>>719510197NTA but as someone who likes both I play diablolikes mainly for build autism. Couldnt care less about metaslop, trading or ladders. I just push my builds as far as I can and when I hit a wall I just make a new character
>>719512128giwtwm
>>719511481So go play Last Epoch, you can play that game blindfolded and you get showered with loot. Why aren't you playing that one? Oh thats right because you don't actually know what you want from a game. The moment you get the instant win button game you want you get bored in 10 minutes.
>>719512527I want nioh 3 that isn't fake and gay.
>>719512668Nah, killing one Gaki takes like 4-5 hits so you won't like it. You want those 1 button games.
>>719511481PoE 2 beat PoE's all platforms combined all time peak on Steam Alone with this update and it's currently #2 best seller on Steam out pacing the new MSG and Borderlands 4.
Call me when they remove weapon restrictions for skills. If I want to use Ice Strike with a Spear I should be allowed to.
>>719498259I shouldn't have to craft during the campaign, that's an endgame thing.
>>719507881Early game is a fucking slog. Go start with ele or quarterstaff skills with no hand me downs, i fucking dare you, you will hate first act with absolute passion. NiGGGers need to make things either fun from the get go or let me skip their shitty campaign and get to the point where builds are actually supposed to work properly. I am fucking tired of running ED/C on every character.
>>719507760ok but it took ben like 16 hours to get through the poe2 acts + intermissions, how long do you think it's gonna take the average player to do it? it's way to fucking long.
>>719505609Mace warrior can not even make it through the hunting grounds because it dies before it gets into melee range.
VS-like but with a campaign
>>719513692>PoE 2 beat PoE's all platforms combined all time peak on Steam Alone with this updateThat's not true.
>>719513919I'm sure they get right at it and increase their animation workload by 5 times of what they have to currently deal with.
>>719512128also want to mention that i basically played ssf. didn't party, didn't trade with anyone else. hardest fight for me was act 1 final boss wolf dude. i got lucky with a gothic staff that had +50% increased phys with some +flat phys. regaled it, then exalted and got crit chance with faster attack speed. doubled my damage compared to a shitty magic i had at the time.
>>719514384Remember when there was no act 4 yet and 6 hours to maps was considered long?I want to grind maps, not do some gay fucking 25 hours story every three monthsThey are delusional
>>719513919No you shouldn't. PoE being so loose with everything has always been cancer. PoE2 should be even more restrictive, it gives things more flavor.
>>719513692No, that's not what that means, that not how the "best seller" thing works. Remember when the $1000 valve index was the best seller for years, you really think that was selling more copies than everything?And no, you are wrong on the POE1 count
>>719515116No, that was a great part of POE and ascendancies forever ruined it.
>>719514941>I want to grind mapsThen you should fuck off. Map niggers get the rope.
>>719515116>PoE being so loose with everything has always been cancer.nigga what
I just got to act 2 and I feel like my skeletons don't do shit. All of my passives are into minion stuff but I feel like my chaos spells just out damage them by like 3x am I missing something?
>>719515184Fuck you. A warrior and a sorceror shouldn't be able to be played the same. They shouldn't even have access to the same weapons. PoE1 is flavorless, soulless slop.
>>719514941New Acts are always going to take longer because people are learning what side content is worth getting and how bosses get beaten. Hardcore especially is going to grind and overlevel like crazy before trying new bosses.
>>719515336They want you to do combos, you're not going to play a build where minions do everything and you just run around.
>>719447402>kill trial of sekema boss>open town portal to go sell stuff as you do in everyone of these games>can't go back in for no reason>game still counted your run as a win>have to redo the trialthe fact that this is STILL in the game is just proof that the devs are malicious assholes.
>>719447402Still garbage. If you want slow weighty combat, you should reduce the amount of enemies and make them as slow as the player. You just can't have it both ways. You can't have a slow methodology gameplay and big number slop at the same time.They somehow increased the amount of enemies and didn't make them slower so the game is still shit.
>>719515214retard
>>719515475There is a stash at the end of the trial dumb dumb.
>>719515361the game is already much longer than PoE 1's 10 act shit festival. Most people aren't going to be interested in that long term. Hell, I have 4k hours in PoE 1 and I'm not interested in that
>>719515424what am I supposed to combo with minions? I have the skill that impales a skeleton so the others do more damage but that lasts like 6 seconds.
>>719515559>the game is already much longer than PoE 1's 10 act shit festival.People learned how to do the story in less than 10 hours back when Cruel difficulty was still a thing. They're going to learn it again because overall length of the game hasn't changed.
>>719515597>what am I supposed to combo with minions?Your spells. Back in Diablo 2 you had to juggle curses, Bone Spears and skelly mages all at the same time. Necromancer having to push a lot of buttons is an intended gameplay design.
>>719515475stick to minecraft bro
>>719515729so you're saying I should just go spells
>>719490486>finally able to use weapons>going through loadscreen turns off all your persistent buffs until you reshapeshiftthanks, I hate it
>>719515819Why not just also have the minions? Necro is a safer build than most Sorc builds.
>>719515475that's why they have a Stash chest there in the victory chamber. they expect you to dump loot in stash. Cumbersome.i think the Trial sucks for other reasons, though. Honour is right bullshit for melees.
damn this game has a fuckton of chinese players, tried to talk to someone and got met with bing bao ning hao right away, guess at least they weren't botting
>>719515957>Honour is right bullshit for melees.Not really, they slowed down all monsters to compensate. You'd have to be extremely unlucky to be hit by anything in first floor and you won't get hit by anything in 2nd floor as long as you kill those pesky big jacket crossbow skellies as soon as you see one. Spider webs don't do Honour damage, they just slow you. The giant spiders take a full second to do one melee attack.
The acts are too much of a slog. I could hammer out the first few acts on the first game over and over but I can't be fucked to even finish the first act on this shit.
>>719516362>Noo campaign is too long, I want to get to maps.>Noooo it takes too long to reach towers, just make all maps towers.>Nooooooo low tier maps take too long, just let me skip to the red maps.>Noooooo Arbiter takes too long to fight, let me just oneshot him!Last Epoch did everything you lazy shits asked and that game died in less than a week.
>>719516547I really liked the skill customization in that game. Shame it didn't catch on.
>>719516547last epoch is shit but the campaign in poe2 is genuinely too long
>>719515876Because he just wants skeletons faggot
>>719516547I didn't want to play a classslop game
>>719498360grim
>>719516858Last Epoch campaign is like 2 hours so with your logic is the best game ever made. So why aren't you playing it?
Would it have been too hard to balance uniques so most of the ones with ilvls low enough to drop in campaign are genuinely usefulor beyond that maybe an easy way to increase low level modifiers to higher level versions so anything you scrounge up in campaign will be useable again when you reach maps?
>>719516547I think last epoch flopped because it wasn't grimdark
>>719510197Diablo 1 and 2 were designed to be normal video games first. It was just the D2 community got autistically deranged and have dictated how the genre has gone ever since. Now a game is trying to be a normal video game again and they are fucking howling.
>>719484157>Finally finish Act 1, but only because I was forced to party because GGG wants to AoE close-ranks boss attack faster than your DPS.Jesus Christ, how horrifying. Especially with the random frame-drops when post-processing pops off.
>>719517302because i don't want a 2 hour campaign, i also don't want a 25 hour campaign. why is it only extremes with you faggot retards
>>719447402>wokeshit negro story-focusno thank you
>>719517425>Boss is more than just loot pinata that stands around.Oh no the horror.
>>719513919That’s never going to happen. PoE2 leans way harder into a D2-esque class identity and weapon locked skills are a huge part of that
>>719517459>I want campaign to be precisely 5 hours, 32 minutes and 29 seconds if its not precisely the amount of hours I want to the very last nanosecond the game is shit.Now you sound like a woman. Never happy about anything.
>>719517567thats about how long the poe1 campaign is, i think it being a little longer than that is fine like 7-10 hours somewhere in that timeframe
>>719517714>thats about how long the poe1 campaign isFor new players PoE1 campaign is 15-20 hours.
>>719517762ok? why does that matter, it takes the best poe player in the world 20 hours to go through the current poe2 campaign, how long do you think thats gonna take for the average player
>>719517317Isn't it about the world falling into a nightmarish future, and you futilely attempting to find the one point in history where you could conceivably prevent it?
>>719515239NTA but restrictions on player freedom *can* be a great way to encourage creativity. Having real weaknesses that you have to overcome while playing to your strengths is far more interesting than a game where you can do literally everything and arrive at the same hyper-optimized endpoint that is functionally identical to everything else. The problem is that ARPGs aren’t the genre to do this in. There just isn’t enough complexity to combat to justify that. PoE2 has attempted to change that but I don’t think they really succeeded.
>>719517828>ok? why does that matter,Because everyone is new to the Act 4 and Interludes, which is why they take longer right now in PoE 2. But because you're too retarded to understand simple logic, you keep whining PoE 2 campaign is too long when pro players were already in maps in less than 10 hours.
>>719517209Classes are the objectively superior form of design.
>>719517913do you even play either of these games are you just shitposting
>>719517992Only if you mean like GW1
>>719517846Its still cartoony looking generic high fantasy. I think most people playing these games just prefer edge
This game is fun.
>>719515819You should probably look at what other people are doing instead of asking /v/eddit for help. Only plebs here. Except for me, who is super smart.
>>719518247You should look up old magma barrier builds, pull up your shield, block one hit, instantly dust anything standing in front of you. It could 1-2 shot any boss you could block an attack on.
>>719518247BASED BASED BASED
>>719518247Based thorns build enjoyer.
>NOOO THIS IS BAD HE'S NOT EVEN ROLLSLOPPING AHHHHHH SAVE ME SHIELDMAN
>>719518247wait thorns is legit? do I need uniques for it?
>>719518247thorns is pretty nice on bosses that have quick multi-hit attacks like that, tends to be miserable if they don't though
>>719518517you need crown of the pale king to be able to porc thorns on any hit, otherwise they only proc from physical hits and it's garbage
>>719518519He got filtered by the monkey boss because it only has slow big hits.
>>719518614that'll do it yeah, the monkey pretty much only has big meaty hits which armor is useless against too
>>719518137Picking main class and secondary class?
