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Why don’t chink support sony china.
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It's out?
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>>719452739
Lol this game peaked at 3k players on steam. AI Limit, another Sony "China hero project" game released earlier this year and got 14k concurrent players while having much less marketing and overall budget and it got numerous threads on /v/.
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>>719454207
>it's true
We are owarida chinasisters!
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B-but chinks were adamant that they were replacing nips in gaming
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I feel like this game will end up on those "5/10 games you like" threads in the future. A lot of the overly negative reaction it's getting seems like people being exposed to low budget jank for the first time.
If you were able to enjoy stuff like WET, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Onechanbara, Dante's Inferno, Afro Samurai, Lords of Shadow, Killer is Dead, Lollipop Chainsaw, Furi, Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae, then your love for action games is much bigger than this game's flaws.
It has good combat and good bosses, everything else sucks, you'll be mashing through any dialogue you can mash through and won't pay attention to any cutscenes because the writing at least in english is completely incoherent. If that sounds fun, play it.
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is the chinese pc/console "domination" already over?
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>>719452739
they didnt add enough swirly dragons to the artwork
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Why don't Chinese snoys buy games?
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Damn it's like a little baby version of Concord.
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They're not going to buy a shitty game just because it was made in their home country
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>>719452739
KWABOTY
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>>719454951
YEAAAAAAAAAAAH

CAWADOOY!
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>>719452739
dumbfags here thought Black WuKANGZ success wasn't just lightning in a bottle
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>>719454779
No, it's just beginning. They just revealed the sequel to Wukong for example.
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This is something I never understood about clone games.

Bayonetta, mgr, DMC, GoW1-3, nier, and etc are all derivative of each other but they have enough individual nuance not to blend together. Something every fucking souls clone fails at. What in the ever loving fuck was the sad bastard that started this thing thinking? The gameplay can't sell it, the story won't sell it, so what are you selling the game on? How do these people pioneer projects without anyone even considering these questions?
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>>719455101
Phantom blade zero will also be a big success, maybe even bigger than Wukong
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>>719455136
hilarious that it was supposed to be the big reveal at the end of gamescom and literally no one talked about it. more people were talking about silksong
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>>719455179
Lol
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>>719454207
Maybe you shouldn't try to sell this shit at $80-90.
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>>719455154
This game was announced back when every single one of those franchises was considered dead. It just took too long to come out and the genre is better saved by the main players, but when it was announced things were looking grim for action games.
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>>719455207
>and literally no one talked about it.
Theres not much to talk about given it's a 10 second trailer
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>>719454951
still tony
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>>719455250
better served*
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>>719452739
Why would I buy it now when the pre-order skins are no longer available?
I'm not forking out that much money for an incomplete game.
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>>719454940
But I was told by shills here all Chinese are forced by their government to buy Chinese games
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>>719455154
Chinks forget the 2 most important concepts to video games: theme and identity.
These shit ass chingchong games where characters look like NPC's and the world is covered in crystals and there's dragons and shit and women wear weird 80's scifi outfits to circumvent censorship, it's all so fucking dumb and ugly and the exact same as one another I'm so god damn sick of it.
The chink brain can't fathom putting souls combat on a pirate themed game or making DMC but in medieval Germany, no, they only know how to make shitty fucking crystals and le black goo of evil and THAT'S IT, THEY HAVE NO CREATIVITY NOTHING.
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>>719455179
Nothing will be bigger than Wukong or Palworld for a while. Maybe Silksong. Obviously GTA (that's in a whole other league), but Phantom Blade isn't getting to the level of phenomenon like Wukong did.
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>>719455328
I dont know if they force them or not, but with Wukong and Wuchang they gave you a day off if you bought the game
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>>719455207
In part that's because Silksong has been hyped for ages and is going to be released this year. Zhong Kui probably won't be out for another 3 years and I think a lot of people that would have been excited for it were a bit disappointed that this reveal means they cancelled the Wukong DLC.
>>719455179
There is no way that it will be bigger than, or even close I think, to Wukong. It will probably be good though and I expect it'll do well sales wise, just not the dozens of millions sales that Wukong was.
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>>719455382
>The chink brain can't fathom putting souls combat on a pirate themed game or making DMC but in medieval Germany, no, they only know how to make shitty fucking crystals and le black goo of evil and THAT'S IT, THEY HAVE NO CREATIVITY NOTHING.
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China made the best and most unique soulslike
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>>719455328
That's because /v/ is retarded when it comes to anything about China for some reason
>>719455452
Where did this happen with Wuchang? I only know one single company (probably some tiny privately owned business) that did so for Wukong.
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>>719455452
>but with Wukong and Wuchang they gave you a day off if you bought the game
Only Wukong
Wuchang was hated by the Chinese
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>>719455589
It didn’t happen with Wuchang, that game didn’t even release (legally) in China, it didn’t pass censorship. So the crazy nationalists who complained about game either didn’t even live in China, or bought/pirated it illegally. This somehow didn’t stop devs caving to their demands though.
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>>719455475
Go ahead and tell me what theme this is.
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>>719455839
That's one of many enemies in the game, here's another 2
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>>719454940
They absolutely will.
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>>719455136
>Wukong
i'm sure everyone is very excited for the next pc tech demo
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>>719455940
Clearly not
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>>719455953
If Wukong is a tech demo then what does that make stellar blade, assassin's creed shadows, death stranding 2, mgs delta
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>>719455898
Black goo and giant crystals, what else is new.
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>>719456103
>Everything showing a bit of light is a crystal
Lol ok
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>>719455215
it's the usual $60
it's actually outselling Mafia 4 in the US on PS5, it's only behind Madden, MGS3 and Gears, but ahead of free Chinese shit like Delta Force and POE2. is this one of those typical "it doesn't work on my antique PC" boycotts or is the protagonist too generic even for the Chinese?
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Gaming is dying and you're laughing?
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>>719455839
the theme is Code Vein
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>>719456184
>it's the usual $60
your mistake responding to canadians/australians
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Sales Aside
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>>719456184
I think it's just fairly generic looking, these type of hack and slash, combo-heavy action games aren't really that popular, and despite the hype the early trailers had 10 years ago, the actual release seems to have really poor marketing. A lot of people don't even seem to know this actually released.
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>>719456030
>what does that make stellar blade and death stranding 2
those are called games, anon
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>>719456304
>schlop stranding
>game
lmao
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>>719452739
There are four snoys in china? I don't buy it, there can't possibly be that many snoys in the world, let alone just one country.
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>>719456275
No Sales Aside
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>>719456172
Everything you've shown me thus far has only served to prove my point that chinks can't do any unique themes. I can name 5 other games that look exactly the same as that.
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>>719455179
Wukong was China formally announcing itself to the global market. No game is ever gonna have that kind of money pumped into it again
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>>719456304
They aren't games anymore than Wukong is
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>>719456405
>I can name 5 other games that look exactly the same as that.
You can't, the closest is code vein and it's not remotely the same
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>>719454735
this is way higher quality than any of those games. Dante's Inferno was an AAA game though.
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>>719456449
Phantom blade zero has a similar budget and even has a former fromsoft art director etc working on it
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>>719455475
>>719455839
>dark souls but le anime
Already been done
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>>719452739
I've never been to mainland China, but I have gone to Macau many times. From what I could tell, no one there played vidya on consoles or dedicated handhelds. Most people just played games on their phones.
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>>719452739
>Chinks have 1 big success
>Assume every slop game will be successful now because chyna#1

It'll be good fun to watch the tidal wave of souls/black myth clones come out of China to zero interest.
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>>719456551
>>dark souls but le anime
>Already been done
it did it much better than code vein
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>>719456591
>>Chinks have 1 big success
before wukong there was genshin, and shortly after wukong there was marvel rivals
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>>719456280
but that's every Chinese game
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>>719456205
Wait that's not code vein 2?
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>>719456704
no, the actual code vein 2 looks like slop
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>>719456703
It really isn't. The only other hack and slash type action game I know of coming from China is Tides of Annihilation.
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>>719456492
>Final Fantasy 16
>Lost Soul Aside
>Scarlet Nexus
>Naraka Bladepoint
>Lost Ark
>The First Descendant
>Stellarblade
>Wuthering Waves
Oops, dropped 8 instead. Go kill yourself Tiananmen Square mutt.
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>>719456962
None of these look let alone play remotely similar. You don't play videogames.
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>>719454207
AI Limit is a great game with polished combat and cute girls. It was a great surprise for me and a lot of anons.
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>>719456696

Oh I needed to clarify AAA game? I assumed native speakers would have understood this without being told.

Singing praises of Gatcha is like talking about mobile games.
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>>719457094
It's the best soulslike and the least janky. many still don't realize this and continue to praise lies of P (which is jankier despite being higher budget).
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>>719457216
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>>719456615
LMAO
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AI limit appreciation thread.
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>>719457394
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Well I bought a ps5 copy after playing the demo twice and the combat still seemed good to me. I'll start it in a few days once my copy gets here and then I'll tell you if it's good or not. I feel weird defending it because I don't know if the full game will deliver or not but I still want to give it a go for myself. They probably should've ran the demo sooner if they wanted better launch sales.
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>>719454207
one's a good game and the other is some shilled product made only because they wanted money
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>>719457019
In that case, which game does this screenshot come from? Should be easy.
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>>719457216
lies of penis is vastly inferior despite looking prettier
probably because it has no soul
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>>719457487
>basic bitch soulslike but anime (which has been done before)
>good game
>one guys passion project that he managed to get funding for by putting out an impressive trailer and concept demo all on his own
>shilled product made only because they wanted money
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>>719452739
Maybe trying to ape one of the worst final fantasies (XV) is not a good idea
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>>719457574
I can tell it's not from AI limit or code vein. Now you inserted a bunch of games that have nothing to do with them and might all use public ue4 assets, not my problem.
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>>719454207
>Numerous
That's because they got paid to shill it.
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>>719455898
>0:17
What happened to him?
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>>719454735
All AA games get this treatment from poorfag jeets who expected half a billion dollar production values from all games.
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>>719457820
I created several of those threads actually and no one has ever paid me money for activity on this website (nor would I accept any, I have a high paying day job)
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>>719457820
>salty faggot cannot fathom people telling others that they liked an unheard of game
KWAB
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>>719452739
Wasn't this game just chunk FFXV that morphed into FFXVI during development? Why would anyone buy a clone of either of those?
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Chinafatigue
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>>719457631
Lakes of piss looks like a bootleg bloodborne and I have no idea why it's praised and compared to actual fromsoftware games
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>>719452739
I'm more excited about this game, I fucking loved Gate of Memories and The Nameless Chronicles
https://youtu.be/6yKm4RfKtQE?si=TCor21teCgdJD0Ug
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AI Limit is the kind of game that would reach its peak after one or two sequels that build upon the original game
I hope the devs/execs aren't falling into the trap of
>It's not a proper sequel unless it has noticeably better graphics
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>>719452739
It looks dumb and gay I'm not sure why anyone would pay real money for it
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>>719458245
The trailer looked amazing to be fair
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>>719456184
It's $80 for the normal edition and $93 USD for the deluxe edition for me on Steam. Shit is retarded.
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>>719457820
I don't need money to share my interest in good games, retarded schizo.
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>>719458061
I remember when it started as a solo dev project around XV's release. Surreal to see it in its current state after all these years.
https://youtu.be/z5El-yYNUwU
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>>719456962
>FF16
Lost Soul Aside is an obvious mockery of FF15
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>>719457431
>Game has goats
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>>719458148
>>719457631
>>719457216

Lies of P has great presentation and plenty of soul. Not to mention much better combat.
That slow, unpolished webm you used to demo its gameplay didn't do you any favors.
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>>719457216
I played the demo and it was pretty damn janky. Is the actual game better or are you just really bad at judging games?
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>>719455154
Nigga the game isn’t a souls like
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>>719455382
Name 10 Chinese AAA games that do anything you just said you fucking nigger
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>>719455463
Nigga they didn’t cancel the DLC Geoff literally said after the reveal of the sequel that Game Science still isn’t done with BMWK yet.
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>>719456615
AI Limit mogs CV and it’s not even close. Hell you probably didn’t even play CV fagboy.
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>>719456962
FF16 looks nothing like AI-Limit.
Lost Souls aside looks like FF15 so wrong again.
Yeah this is an anime game with an anime art style. You may as well say Scarlet Nexus just copied CV or God Eater.
Naraka LMAO
Lost Ark LMAO
The first Descendant sir hello, meds
Stellar Blade LMAO
Wuthering LMAO
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>>719457574
It’s FF16 but it looks like you just screencapped a scene from the DLC trailer so you almost assuredly don’t play anything.
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Why is the chink market already collapsing? I was expecting them to sell lots of copies of every dogshit game they release there for at least another year or so.
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>>719461018
The statement by the art director I think afterwards basically sounds like they cancelled it. They'll do more Wukong stuff still but it sounds like it won't be DLC, it'll be a full sequel, and it'll be after Zhong Kui, meaning it'll be at least 6 years away.
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I don't hate chinese games, Wuchang and AI Limit was excellent but this Yang Bing Bong guy is not it. Ever since I saw his first not versus13 teaser decades ago I know it's just a work to show off, fuckers don't know shit about making games or do a good concept. It baffles me when Sony took him to make this shit and people around the world said it's the best thing ever. Goddamn his downfall felt good. Again I don't have anything against chinese games I think they're awesome and getting good except this piece of shit Yang Bing Bong, fucking ego motherfucker
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>>719454676
Their soulslikes tend to have more players than Japanese ones. The reason this game sold poorly is because it's not a soulslike, simple as. Expect Ninja Gaiden 4 to have similar numbers.
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>>719452739
i got minority and girlboss protagonist fatigue
I want cool straight white male heroes for a change.
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>>719461868
Nigga this is the chink game thread.
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>>719461518
CN players attention are probably all onto the big F2P games releasing in October
Didn't another big Chinese game just release too? They might be busy that right now as well
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>>719460712
>or are you just really bad at judging games?
It's this one obviously. He is just coping because generic scifi anime girl aesthetic
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>>719452739
>10 years ago
>market is getting shafted from both sides
maybe next time.
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>>719458164
>have to wait for someone to make a good Belmont game but they already made a game
fuck
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I don't understand how people are saying the combat is great.
Anyone who loves this genre and has played the greats would be able to instantly tell that the combat is nothing special. The control of the character doesn't feel good, movement is janky, the hit feedback is poor, the hit detection is inconsistent, it's not nearly as polished as it needs to be, the enemies are mediocre at best. It doesn't excel at anything outside of having flashy effects and animations.
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>>719455475
true the anime style adds a lot of soul to the game. soulslikes don't need to be so grim visually
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>>719457940
AA games still have budgets in the tens of millions with teams of dozens of people now.
Its bigger budget and staff than old AAA studios that gave us games like Halo or Final Fantasty back in the day.
Yeah I'd be annoyed too that modern devs cant creat games as good as those with modern hardware that makes it faster and easier too
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Has China ever produced a game that feels like an actual new game idea and not an imitation of something that was already successful?
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>>719452739
Oh, must be the doing of those pirate people I have heard about.
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>>719463902
everything is imitation of something else
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>>719463665
Is anyone saying it's great? I thought it's OK, decent enough for the game to be fun. It also is worth mentioning since in comparison everything else in the game seems to be pretty shit.
>>719463902
Has any dev done so in the last 15 years?
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>>719457216
I liked it but come on, it's janky. Especially the bosses. It's the dungeon crawling that it's good at
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>>719463902
HI3 and Genshin spawned entire subgenres
In fact they're so radically different from what /v/ usually plays /v/ pretends they don't even exist. They just don't count for /v/
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>>719463971
>>719464006
I'm not setting the bar too high here, even something as original as Breath of the Wild with the construction or Slay the Spire inventing the the roguelike deckbuilder craze or even Balatro setting off a chain of imitators

Like, has China ever made a game at least creative enough to be imitated by someone else? That's how low the bar I'm setting and I don't think China can cross it
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>>719464374
Genshin's core gameplay and controls are so overtly just a copy paste of zelda that it's impossible to take seriously as a unique game. I guess it's kind of unique to staple predatory gambling mechanics on top of zelda though
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>>719464434
probably but most games china makes are not released globally so we don't know. they are new to global game industry
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im bored of souls slop
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>>719464550
i want more soulslikes
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>>719454207
AI limit was fun, wish it got dlc or a sequel, the world was very interesting
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>>719464434
Construction building stuff has been around before 2017, I wouldn't say that was original at all. Nor would I consider Balatro having imitators of its exact gameplay actually making it original. Slay the Spire maybe, IDK how the indie roguelike scene was like prior to and post launch of that game, but would maybe Genshin Impact classify then? I can't recall seeing anything really like it beforehand and now a few years later it feels like there's a ton of 3D open world gacha games.
>>719464550
Are you talking about Lost Souls Aside or...?
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>>719464621
dlc is confirmed. maybe sequel later but remake with more content would be even better
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>>719464536
>Genshin's core gameplay and controls are so overtly just a copy paste of zelda
No, Genshin is basically HI3's open world areas expanded into a bigger open world but /v/ has no understanding of the genre at all so I might as might as well be speaking Chinese to you. It's like talking to non-gamers.
It did take gliding and wall climbing from BotW though. Not that BotW invented them.
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>>719452739
Bump
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>>719457216
God this is terrible.
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>>719467495
what is terrible about it
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>>719452739
The game looks like pure trash not even free i would play that
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>>719452739
PS five sales lol
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>>719452739
Wasn't this game made by one guy?
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>>719468430
In the beginning yea, he went to trade shows with it and Sony picked it up, he hired some staff, game got rebooted and now here we are after gazillion of years.
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>>719452739
I'm wary with Chinese games because of Wuchang's surprise 1.5 censorship unironically.
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>>719469721
?
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>>719469721
That was really disappointing, but I think that's a one-off type situation because the censorship stuff is around actual historical stuff. I doubt there'd be anything like it with full fantasy settings.
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Sony killed it with the price. It should be £30 max.
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>>719452739
Oof
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They should have marketed the game as a solo project from start to finish
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>>719469831
Chinks made a stink, so now you can't kill certain npcs and they completely fucked up the story.
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>>719458164
I've owned these games for a while but now they have a remaster coming, I think I should just wait for that.
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>>719454207
Doesn't that pretty much suggest that Steam Next Fest does more for your game than Sony sponsored showcases?
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>>719452739
Chinkbros...
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>>719455154
>Something every fucking souls clone fails at.
Another Crab's Treasure doesn't.
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This game had some controversy in china, thats why the chinese hypernationalists aren't buying it in droves

it's also way waaaaay to expensive, should have been 30 bucks
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>>719454207
I played AI Limit. Quite good actually.
Really fucking easy except the last couple bosses and the edgy red chick.
Those were a bit harder and took a few tries to master.
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>>719471687
>chinese hypernationalists aren't buying it in droves
When has this ever happened? It gets repeated a lot but the only game anything like that may kind of happened was with Wukong
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>>719464374
HI3 is literally just a shitty version of Bayonetta, and Genshin is just BoTW. Try again.
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>>719471961
you know the wukong situation

wuchang stopped selling well because nationalists were assmad at the depiction of some mythical chinese characters leading to a massive censorship patch
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AI limit looks cool and I'll definitely get it eventually but I just have no motivation to play Soulslikes any more.
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>>719454735
every game you mentioned had its own style and, dare I say it, soul, while LSA looks like result of putting bunch of basic commands into AI, it has that modern fantasy slop look
it might be a fun game but when I look at the footage I have zero interest
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>>719472247
This looks like someone took Code Vein, turned on some image processing, gave it a more generic style and instead of an anime girl with huge tits as your companion it's a floating squid thing.
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>>719472247
Still love that Astro Bot took the piss out of the concept. Really wish more devs took the hint.
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>>719472081
The thing is, from what I can tell even Wukong's success was not due to hyper nationalism. It contributed partially with the "first global AAA" thing but I think it's success had far more to do with the IP, which if you know anything about chinks or even asians in general there's almost nothing more popular than JttW.
Wuchang had its controversy only once it had launched, but its day one sales or pre-orders or pre-release hype were no where near Wukong. AFAIK AI Limit has no controversy and is no where near sales wise as well. Palworld was big but if you look up its sales it's no nearly as dominated by chinese sales as other games. Marvel Rivals too is mostly American players. There's a few other chink games I've seen around, though not much, and the reason for that is they were not big sales wise.
Even if you disagree with Wukong and think it was entirely just chinks buying it because it was a chinese game, can you name a single other example?
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>>719472081
That censorship patch really killed my motivation to continue playing Wuchang. Shame too cause the game was really good.
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>>719472247
I know it's just a hidden loading screen but an actual loading screen would be less obnoxious at this point
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>>719472718
The game is still more or less the same on the whole post-patch. The only majorly significant gameplay changes are the chapter 4 enemy adjustments, and that is not really as big as it may initially seem. Only the story stuff are truly bad changes. If you were really enjoying it prior to 1.5 releasing I think you should still go through and finish it.
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>>719472382
I'd argue you're wrong about Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae, but that game had zero budget. Dante's Inferno is also too close to God of War for comfort, Lords of Shadow was a bit more unique in its execution, but still a GOW clone through and through.
I think the biggest difference is that these two shameless clones were relying on a built up history to draw from in terms of themes and aesthetics, and this one is brand new and ugly. If this was a Castlevania spin-off it would likely look much more soulful. I do agree with you, though. A lot of my examples are style over substance but the style is spectacular. WET is one of gaming's greatest Grindhouse features, Killer is Dead to me is gaming's Cowboy Bebop. Lollipop Chainsaw is plain fun to play and look at.
Not surprising it's flopping among general gaming fans, it does lack that draw, but if you love action games and you want more action games, you should give it a try. There's no denuvo, you can just torrent it, or try the demo on Steam.
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>>719473037
I do plan on finishing it. It just killed my enthusiasm.
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>>719457216
These devs never do anything with the formula outside of Team Ninja with Nioh. This looks as generic as it gets.
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>>719473101
I liked Lords of the Fallen 2023 and Dolls' Nest. Everyone was scared that Armored Core VI would be Armored Souls, but Dolls Nest actually is that and it's pretty good. It merges Soulslike level design with heftier older AC controls. AC VI only borrowed form Souls in the worst ways, with loose controls that no longer feel like piloting a robot and a Sekiro/Elden Ring stagger system.
I feel like too many Soulslikes are only Soulslikes in combat and bosses, which are great but not the main reason why From's Souls games were great. I want more level design-focused Soulslikes, less dodge roll-focused Soulslikes.
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>>719473540
I want souls likes with actual build variety.
Lots of cheapo clones just give you 1 build. No armor. No blocking. No magic. No range.
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>>719473540
Both Wuchang and AI Limit are like that. Chinks are ironically the only ones making good level design focused soulslikes.
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>>719472247
>soulless chinks just copy and pasted the snoy DNA
lmao
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>>719473646
Haven't played either, but I'm now interested. The aesthetics are a bit boring, but I can overlook that for good exploration and encounter design.
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>>719473063
People rightfully shit on Souls for ruining action game combat, but DMC3's influence was also a disaster. I hate how there's basically two noteworthy camps of action fags, the "I want to tap one button to iframe through a boss's combo and then press R1 twice to do two basic slashes that take off 20% of its health" group and the "I want to pointlessly juggle ragdolls in the air for 30 seconds without them ever getting a chance to attack" group. And every time you say you'd rather have something in between you'll get a bunch of clowns from both sides calling that idea shit.
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>>719456280
stella blade sold like hotcakes the chinks have no right to talk
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>>719473614
Both of the games I mentioned do have that too. Not as much as From's games, but they're pretty meaningful differences. Lords of the Fallen has actually good throwables, which is pretty fun. My characters uses Frostbite claws and throwable machetes. The running R2 when one-handing the claw is a dropkick, always fun to use.
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>>719473856
Stellar Blade isn't generic though. People always say it apes Nier Automata but the comparisons are surface level at best and thematically the games are nothing alike.
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>>719473932
they brought it to jack off
thats it
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>>719473958
I think you're projecting
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>>719473932
What about its combat makes it not generic
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>>719474039
What about the combat makes it generic? You're the one making the active claim. What game is like Stellar Blade?
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>>719452739
>Chinks don't like it
So it is good?
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And people expected a China domination for the industry after Wu-Kong. Just seems like even China isn't going to support a game instantly just because it came from their home country. It still has to be good.

>>719454207
Extra humiliation. It lost to Mindseye 3.3k peak players on steam.
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>>719452739
i mean it looks like chinese forspoken
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>>719473992
no I am not
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>>719474272
You clearly are given how blatantly incorrect you are. You aren't basing anything off reality. If sex appeal was all that was needed to sell a game why doesn't that apply to other fan service games? They don't sell a million copies in a single day. Only Stellar Balde did. It's almost as if the game has appeal beyond sex appeal that made people want to pick it up and play it.
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I saw it coming (like a gazillion years in development lmao) but I'm still a bit disappointed. Looks like it's up to NG4 to save action games.
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>>719473806
Lost Soul Aside actually kind of tries to do an inbetween. Like it has a stagger meter for bosses and stronger enemies, but if they're humanoid sized, instead of stagger just being a down state where you unleash your strong attacks to do massive damage like FFXVI, staggering unlocks hitstun, and you can juggle them, so you're free to use your training mode combos on bosses that way.
It's not a very refined solution, but it can be fun. Personally I want more stuff taking from KH II. It's simple, it won't ask you to learn complex juggles and stuff, but at least on Critical things fight back and pose a real threat. It lets you combo bosses too, but they have a revenge system to break out of combos and you need to be efficient about it.
Low execution, but lots of decision making, and doesn't feel like either Souls or DMC.
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>>719474359
and thats why it sold you fucking retard
theres no good story
gameplay decent at best
its sex, pretty korean woman sold the game and thats fine but you cant act like chinks have taste
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>>719474734
>why didn't other fanservice games sell then?
>IT ONLY SOLD BECAUSE OF SEX SEX SEX SEX
Thank you for proving my point you brainless gooner. Seek medical help.
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>>719474359
I agree with you but I think that appeal is more on stuff like the dress up aspect than necessarily the combat. The game not being shit beyond the fanservice is obviously an important part, but I doubt what kind of decent game was that important for the sales. I'm glad it's the kind of game it is because I like that kind of game, but if it was a Soulslike and everything else the same it would sell as much.
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>>719468112
>mods closed the Ninja Gaiden thread
NGods, we will continue our discussion in this inferior action game thread.
>The NES games are already pretty safely non-canon in the modern series. They tried to have some loose semi-canon approach with Jo and Irene in NG2, but NG3 made it pretty clear these are different settings
True, but Ragebound threw another curveball since it takes place during the events of NG1. Pic related. The events of NES NG are still going to happen in the modern NG timeline with some adjustments to accommodate 3D NG and DOA. If NG4 brings the Dark Dragon Saga to a conclusion, then the Dark Sword of Chaos Saga is up next. Plus, NGX is a tale of two masters, Ryu and Jo, and it's a short enough game that its events can be reimagined through NG4's DLC.
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Chink only care about cheating and beating white man at video games by cheating and also social media fake accounts and propoganda “culture war” posting
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>>719474983
I literally have no idea what the story is in NG, I just like the games. I sat through NG2 (xb360) and RE and couldn't really care less, I just thought it was cool that Ryu beats up demons and Dinosaurs and shit.
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>>719470063
Don't really care, they already proved they can't be trusted with real games, Chinese devs are for gacha
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The Chinese government is too restrictive to allow cool games. Everything has to be some curated AAAslop, there's no space for them to just make little one off junk and experiment with different ideas risk free. I think missing the arcade era makes them unaware of fundamental ideas in gameplay, and they don't have the culture geared at autistic slav jank like post-soviet countries. There's really nothing in china on offer other than artists being able to rig up anime girls which Koreans can also do with fewer restrictions.
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>>719474925
Did the sex appeal help? Sure but even without the sex appeal Stellar Blade is still a very good action game and had one of if not the best OSTs of the year and a combat system that actually does stand on it's own to set itself apart from other souls clones and why I'd say Stellar Blade isn't even a Soulslike in the first place.
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>>719454207
ai limit was good tho
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>>719475734
It's not just the sex appeal, I think it would sell less if she was in a skimpy microbikini the entire game and with no other outfit choices. I think the dressup aspect was a huge part of it.
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>>719455136
Woah, they made a new 3DMark Demo already?
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I'd buy it for $40.
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>>719457976
i made some ||three|| of the others, and about a third of the ai limit images here are my oc.

the game was great and it was great to talk about it with anons. i wish there were more games like this
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>>719474079
I didn't make any claim considering that's my only post. You made the claim it's not generic and nothing about the demo showed otherwise.
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>>719452739
yang bing ding dong gweilo AIIIIEEEEEEE
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I liked the demo but the stamina bar have no place in this game wtf.
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>>719477070
It just limits dodge and EX spam. You'll never run out of stamina mid combo for example, and certain moves like the stinger followup to drive recharge stamina.
It's a better system than moves on cooldown at least.
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It is 2025, and China has still not made one single game that is at the very least mediocre.
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False
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>>719452739
It took too long. When it was first announced, there was no DMCV, FF16 and wukong.
Want an action game? Just play DMCV
Want a final fantasy game but action game? Yeah, FF16 already came out.
Want the first big high production chinese game that is actually a game and not gachaslop? Wukong took its thunder.
Right now there's no reason for it too exist.
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>>719474808
I didnt buy it
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For me, it's Valkyrie Elysium.
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Why every chink game story is
>Xiong Hu is a dragon ruling over the Xi PingPong world where 7 Zhu Blongs started a war over Xlio Bling you are Xing Biong with the power of Hzu Xiomp using Shi Chi to call Azhu BlongHu to aid you with finding 5 Cho Biong
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China can go back to gachas, leave real games to the professionals.
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>>719477976
>I do not play video games
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>>719452739
based on steam reviews it's bad in a boring way (repetitive combat, copy paste enemies, uninspired environments, unoptimized...) which is a shame. but this studio's next game might be good.
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>>719475670
>>719479090
Can we stop this stigma that gacha games aren't "real games"?
GI, HSR, ZZZ and WuWa all have 1:1 gameplay compared to big budget games that came out this decade. So calling them bad is just an opinion, which is fine, but saying they're not in the same league as console games is flat out false.
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>>719479796
They're like real games in only a surface level comparison. Gacha games even the high budget ones like those you mention are ALL designed intentionally to be shitty live service games that exist to get you addicted and want to spend real money. I can boot up Lost Souls Aside and it may be kind of shitty but it at least won't be designed like a gambling simulator.
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>>719479796
>ZZZ
i can't think of single fast paced action game in the last 20 years that doesn't let you jump
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>>719458164
That looks worse than the mobile version of Genshin.
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>>719480170
>muh heckin aerials
Low IQ DMC nigger
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>>719478646
The only one I've played that has even some of its story like this is Wuchang
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>>719457216
Lords of the Fallen 2.0 and Nioh 2 are the best Soulslikes
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>>719480170
kek this
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>>719478646
Lost Soul Aside is literally this kek
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>>719479090
>releases unoptimized UE5shit
There's no difference.
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>>719480528
There is a difference. Japanese games are actually good
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>>719478394
I dropped that shit after like 3 hours. It's garbage.
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>>719480306
I love when my games have less gameplay depth for no good reason
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>>719480752
>depth equals I can jump
Proving my point. Play more than 2 games and maybe you'll get it
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>>719480514
Areals are literally anti-depth cause it always just boils down to you hitting a non reacting dummy who is just getting juggled by you without being able to respond. You want games where you don't actually want to engage with what the enemy is doing.
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>>719452739
Looks like the kind of game that you will ger during a sale or wait when it's on PS+
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>>719454207
I really wonder, is AI Limit the best game review/sales-wise that came out of the China Hero Project? I can't think of another game besides Wuchang (pre update 1.5) that sticks out.
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>>719480306
even ninja gaiden has jumping lol
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>>719481863
Perchance
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>>719452739
>>719454207
>Animelimit
Expect a shit ton more "anime look" used as a husk games.
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Anime website
Never bet against anime
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>>719482164
Millaire is such a qt
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>>719478394
Man..Where are the Einherjar?
Why did the unProfile the Valkyrie?
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>>719480947
Next thing you're gonna say is that needing more than 1 button for attacking is anti-depth?
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>>719455136
chinks don't know how to make games, only gacha
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>>719483335
Wukong is a 10/10 game and the real goty of 2024, says asmongold
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>>719482895
That's one of the Einherjar. You get to fight them 1v1.
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>>719484706
Unless thats THE first one she should be summoning and coordinating attacks with at least 12 other Einherjar.
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>>719454207
AI Limit is good
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Posting beyond the chinese firewall is illegal. No one cares about bugslop here
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>>719479796
>Can we stop this stigma that gacha games aren't "real games"?
But if we don't create arbitrary distinctions we will always lose in comparisons!
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There are only 4 in VE.
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>>719463901
>AA games still have budgets in the tens of millions with teams of dozens of people now.
Irrelevant
>Yeah I'd be annoyed too that modern devs cant creat games as good as those with modern hardware that makes it faster and easier too
Cope shitskinned retarded faggot.
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>>719455382
Chinese games can have soul (sadly the sequel will look sovlless)
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>>719480287
For a group of spaniards with not even a tenth of Genshin's initial budget it really isn't that bad and they're not using le realistic character design so that's a plus
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>>719455382
This is so true it hurts. Outside a handful of games you can count on one hand most of their titles are exactly like that. Maybe not always crystals but something equally uninspired and unnecessarily flashy and bright blasting the screen every two seconds. Part of is that they can't show death or skeletons and some other weird censorship shit and that's part of why enemies are always generic abstract shapes or black shadowy blobs and honestly that does kinda constrain you really hard. I wonder if they would actually cook different things up if they were allowed to.

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>>719472734
That's so obtrusive and awkward looking holy fuck lol. Someone post the endless loading screen corridor from Callistro protocol lmao.

>>719478109
DSP was a chink game? Huh guess that explains the forgettable shitty combat and some of the other jank. Was pretty enjoyable otherwise though.
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>>719486237
I actually didn't know about skeletons not being allowed. That completely kills the pirate idea, can't imagine a pirate game with zero skeletons, kek.
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>>719486929
It's not true at all, Wuchang and Wukong both have skeletons (the former has a lot of gore/blood/cannibalism stuff in general)
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>>719486929
The skeleton thing is actually done preemptively I heard. Chyna has a censor board and instead of risking their veto publishers ask to just remove everything that could be a reason for the board to slam the game down (I assume they don't want to bother with hard and lenghty talks with any CCP organisation because of language barrier n shieet)
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>>719452739
"Games" from China and Korea tend to be trash. Only Japan can make a game worth a damn on average from east asian.
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>>719487129
Even genshin has skeletons lol
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>>719464374
>HI3
Bayonetta, DMC copycat
>Genshin
Musou on mobile
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>ZZZ
lol garbage, i like some of the character design but that it, all characters almost play the fucking same
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>>719488219
I'm listening
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>>719486929
Yeah, it's one of those weird grey areas. The "no skeletons" thing isn't a hard law, but it's more like devs walking on eggshells so their game doesn't get nuked by the review board. Some just play it ultra safe and sterilize everything into shiny blobs and particle vomit. It's why so many enemies feel like weird floating hallucinations instead of actual creatures with, y'know, bones. Honestly kind of kills the vibe in anything trying to be dark or spooky.
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>>719452739
Yet another “This will be the game to live up to Versus XIII” flopped. Tabata won. Kneel.
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>>719452739
I'm watching some streamer play it and it looks so scuffed
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>>719482174
I don't think anyone wanted K-pop pretty boys either.
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>>719479796
>GI, HSR, ZZZ and WuWa all have 1:1 gameplay compared to big budget games
>HSR: "Each character will start off with 2 abilities at level 1. At level 70? still the same 2 abilities. That'll be several hundred dollars, please."

LOL no they don't. You'd know that if you played games outside Gacha.
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>>719463902
This is a concern troll. There is absolutely nothing “new” China could make to please you. Every genre has already been done. Stop asking China to make shit you can easily find from indie western devs. Stop wishing China catered to your niche faggot game genre.
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>60
This is why Playstation is going third party.
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>>719464434
Their industry just started you fucking nigger
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>>719472585
How long are /v/anon gonna say Palworld is a chink game when it’s Japanese?
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>>719455154
>Bayonetta, mgr, DMC, GoW1-3, nier, and etc are all derivative of each other but they have enough individual nuance not to blend together.
That literally doesn't matter. The problem is that the gameplay sucks. If the gameplay here was as good or even just slightly worse, it would pass no matter how derivative it is.
It's not. That's literally all there is to it. If the game was fun, people would play it without giving two fucks about originality.
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>>719493358
It’s too good to be a Japanese game.



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