i wanna eat meatbug

New camp > old camp > gangweed

>>719454040
>Choose to join old camp because swamp are retarded stoners and new camp are fagets
>Game railroads you into being kicked out of old camp
Fffffffffffuuuck you piranhabytes

>>719454040
I'm going to buy the remake and /v/ will seethe

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>>719454040
This game looks so shit even for 2001. Gta 3 from the same year looks far better, and it's world map feels like someone put actual effort into it unlike with this trash.

>>719456136
>/v/
do you really think your average/v/isitor is old enough to know what game is that let alone played it?

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Khorinis, also home

>>719456136
The demo was really bad

>>719456301
for a second I thought the guy has an actual name, but nope just deutsch word for landlord

>>719456196
This is unuronically how a remake should look like. New artstyle is disgusting

>>719456684
This is a barkeeper, not a landlord.

>>719456790
So... the remake should look like ai slop? I knew Gothicucks are dumb, but damn.

>>719456791
sorry bruv, he is Landlord in English version
barkeep is sulking over free beer in his tavern

Guys, this game is releasing on consoles. Are we getting controller support too? I hate playing only on keyboard

>>719454040
The combat and mouse camera filtering me hard

>>719457070
Shitbox controller will probably work, think I saw mod for G2 for controller support

>>719456982
Sounds like the translation is absolute dogshit.

>>719457070
This game actually benefits from controller support since playing without mouse is way less janky

>>719456097
you join the old camp to join the fire mages

>>719457334
>Old Camp
you can use glitch to become both mage and guard
>New Camp
as soon as you become rogue you can join mercs, you even get shitty version of merc armor for free
>Swamp Ass
2 free armors I think?

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>>719454040
Right click game on steam -> properties -> betas -> unrealbeta

The way it's meant to be played(tm)

>>719457201
>>719457276
i have the GOG version though..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHSxJYBzU7o

>>719457276
mouse in 1 sucks, but in 2 you have a huge advantage since you can spin on the spot to retreat from enemies (and you can do some janky wall phasing for fun)

>>719454040
Honestly pretty forgettable hubs in Gothic games, the wilderness was always the draw.

>>719458306
K I N O
I
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>>719454040
>russians claim it's a metroidvania

>>719458782
Rooskies is Gothic's main demographic. That's how you know it's not good.

>>719459038
It's one of the best games made during the peak of western (gaming) culture. Everything that came after the G1 and G2 era is muddied.

>>719459292
Seems like you didn't play much games.

why did the piranha bytes gothic team fuck up up the controls so bad compared to all the other games releasing at that time

>game (american) allows movement with wasd and mouse aim, dragging items in invetory to sellers/shift click sell, left click attack while dynamic movement
>game (germany) : shit

Then again they never managed to replicate gothics success before bankruptcy so I guess the PB leadership is just bad.

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hey du

>>719456921
im not buying the demake shill

>>719460802
Warum weckst du mich auf!?

What do you think about the nonexistant add-on for G3?
It had something to do with gods who were forsaken
And it was made by pajeets

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>>719459592
Cause it's funny

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>>719461139
Awww, you're such a bad, bad goyim!! How couldn't you buy our goyslop?! This is outrageous! Hissss....

>>719461672
Consoles ruined so many games in that time period
M+KB is and always will be the superior input devices

>>719454040
God I love Gothic. Gothic 2 is genuinely one of the very best games ever made. No other game has nailed open world like it did.

Gothic 2 is so much worse than 1, it's kind of amazing. You can see that by the time Night of Raven released bald fag Bjorn gained too much influence.

>>719459592
I like being able to play with just a keyboard. Using a mouse is easier for sure but that takes away some of the immersion for me.

>>719459592
This is a game from 1980s lil bro. But really they fixed the controls starting from Risen series and onwards.

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Who needs gaytracing when you can have g*drays instead?

>>719463851
>>719463725
based
luv em irl too

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When the FUCK are they dropping the mod of the decade update? I've been itching to replay for a while already.

>>719456136
the demo ran like shit on my pc and I aint upgrading for gothic 1. I can just play the original if I feel like it

Cant replay gothic anymore i played ut billion times..

>>719464137
Not only that my fucking game broke after playing 400 hours + every new game npc doing this stuck footstep animation on repeat during scripted dialogue options, it breaks the fundamentals of the engine itself
Did 2 playthroughs of it one as mecenary and one as a magician gaurd

Swamp camp is fhe best. It's the only camp that allows you to create a warrior/mage hybrid

>>719463725
>>719463851
is this modded or smth?

>>719464251
try random overhaul mods then
played a few some of them were interesting others terrible
>odysee
german autism, try not blow your brains out before you finish tutorial island and be rewarded with shitton of content
>dirty swamp
same problem as above
>Arkona
guy decided to make a mod on island that is somewhat close in size to mercenary farms in G2, fun but short
>Xeres' return
full story rewrite of G1 and G2, you start off in the temple of first game dead... well as a zombie, cool stuff
>Nostalgia edition
base G2 with some new quests, independent guild, water mage guild membership, arquebous guns, companions

>>719464584
every camp gives you opportunity to learn magic alongside combat skills, it's just the switch version fixed the retarded issue of Swamp Camp not having access to 5th circle of magic

>>719464730
No swamp camp is the only one that allows you to learn two-handed skill and runes at the same time. Every other camp you have to chose between two-handed or runes, and 4th circle is fine you get most of the useful and fun spells.

>>719464137
Why don't they fix the ending first?

>>719464629
>odysee
Dont like how its not as immersive as archolos and gothic 2. Snuck into a gaurded place and gaurds after those gaurds dont have problems with me and i ask them questions as if i was allowed in so i stopped. Wish it was as loyal

>>719464857
Pretty sure Lee teaches you two handed even if you are a mage. I remember choosing to keep the magic stone inside Uriziel because the spell takes too long to cast.

>>719464857
huh?
you're not locked out of either with new or old camp
>new camp, Lee trains you in 2handed (which is shit anyway), ask mages later for magic
>old camp story throws you to new camp, if you don't want to abuse glitch where you become both guard and mage

>>719465109
Pretty sure lee only teaches you if you join the mercenary and you can't do that if you are a fire mage. I could be wrong, last time I played the game was 15 years ago.

>>719465253
sure you can

>>719465237
Two-handed in gothic 1 is a direct upgrade to one-handed. You're thinking of gothic 2 where one-handed is better.

>>719465380
it really isn't, faster swings > 2 handed damage even in G1
orc slayer can carry you across the game easily

>>719465253
While you probably could finish the game as a fire mage the intended path is to join water mages(and then become a necromancer, thus serving all 3 gods) after the Gomez has his little german moment.
Which officially puts you on the "blue" side and lets Lee teach you sword fighting.

Nichts wird so heiß gegessen wie es gekocht wird.

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>>719464629
>play Odysee
>spec into magic
>didn't realize you won't get any runes
>scrolls only
Nostalgia was fun because I had Velaya and the Gothic 1 expansion cut content skimpy chick following me everywhere. Remake can go fuck itself, they censored the slavegirls.

>>719454040
graphics peaked here

>>719465451
The problem with one-handed in gothic 1 is that you stop finding new weapons after mid game because the game wants you to switch to runes or two-handed

>>719465678
G2 is peak graphics, G1 wasn't as polished.

>>719465451
It absolutely is. In Gothic 1 weapons seem to have more significant hitbox range differences, and with a two hander you can just keep swinging while keeping your opponent at enough of a distance that they can't hit you back. For some reason it's not really possible in Gothic 2 anymore.

>>719465829
>innos sei deiner seele gnädig, du spast
i can't believe he actually said that

>>719465887
Es war eine andere Zeit

>>719454040
i'm waiting for the remake to play this because i'm not a decrepit boomer

>>719465829
I didn't really like playing a mage in Gothic 2, as minmaxing mana felt annoying, but the monastery has some of the coolest quests in the game, they really nailed it, especially with those trials early on.

>>719465887
Hä, is that a meme?

>>719466005
Didnt know mid 90s borners are grandpas now
Were you born in 2007?

>>719466680
i'm joking man, i was planning on waiting for the remake but it's taking too much, i'm probably starting the gothic series soon

>>719466680
you could easily be a grandpa by now if you were born in the early 90s

>>719466769
K

>>719465636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3qWRGNsq4g
beste Vertonung

>>719466006
I hate mage in both 1 and 2 because you feel double weak for a long time until you get some spells.
Then they made 3 practically impossible without being a mage

>>719467040
>a fireball
the director is fucking retarded

>>719467050
i like mage in one cause of the feeling of your power snowballing. Esp when you come back to the camps to fuck everyone up for even more xp

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Why did they fumble Elex 2 so much, I actually enjoyed 1 and couldn't finish 2 because too boring.

Also, who the fuck had the GREAT IDEA that Elex 2 starts with your fucking wife or girlfriend bitching about you and your kid. I play games to get away from that shit.

>>719458306
LMAO walking simulator this is what /v/ is hyping up?

>>719471496
Back then walking sim didnt even exist

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>>719472590
behold!
A walking simulator!

>>719472763
What the fuck is that coat of arms anyway, does that have anything at all to do with Zelda?

>>719454040
Tried the demo for the remake.
Movement was like getting a shopping cart with a bad wheel.
Why didn't they fix it?

>>719473259
Remake is going to suck, quite impressive level of incompetence.

>>719473352
it will be good, stop doomposting

>>719473447
After playing the demo I'm not even going to pirate it.

>>719464609
Of course.

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>>719473352
I wish them luck but odds are against them
>new studio, most people on the team never even played it until music composer asked them repeatedly to olay it (allegedly they did)
>few russian G2 modders on the team, which is both good and bad
>good because they at least know what what Gothic is
>bad because russian modding scene likes bloat and trying to turn the game into watered down souls game

>>719473447
did you play the demo?
its fucking terrible
prolly made by indians

>>719458306
how is this different from new God of War?

>>719456196
Holy fucking kino. I love G1 and G2

>>719473652
what mods

>>719468470
They did the same with Risen. First one was kino, then 2 meh and 3 complete shit. Gothic 3 and 4 were also shit

>>719473791
>>719473529
i played the demo but i hope the full released game will be better

Just started playing 1 for the first time. I was told 1, then 2, then Archolos was the order to play. Are there any other overhaul mods as good as Archolos that should definitely be played?

>>719456212
Gothic 1/2 are cool but they play like ass and I'm a boomer who still plays DOS games.

>>719475315
othello for 1 is pretty big, though i'm not a fan

new balance for 2 is fucking huge, a mixed bag of great, meh, and what the fuck are you doing

>>719475315
Archolos is not an official release, it's literally just a mod

Anyone tried the controller mod for g1?

>>719464857
>No swamp camp is the only one that allows you to learn two-handed skill and runes at the same time.
New camp teaches you 2 handed swords either way
In the original game swamp camp is inferior because you can't learn the 6th circle and become a necromancer, other 2 camps allow you to do that

>>719456097
Why do you want to join Gomez and his cucks? Do you like to kiss his ass that much?

>>719476471
they translated demonenbeschwörer to necromancer? are they retarded?

>start game
>go to mines
>when the crawler attacks, kill the templar fighting it (he sometimes even dies without you intervening)
>pick up his 2h sword
>you can now kill every enemy in the first act and don't even need training

>>719477054
>kill every enemy in the first act
I mean, you can do the same just by buying digger pants and learning the 1st level of 1h sword fighting
Orcs would still rape you

>>719477242
or you don't waste points on faggy 1h thanks to having a 2h weapon

>>719477339
only 10 skill points, no big deal
you can get quite good Scar's sword in the first chapter as well
The real waste in G1 is a cross/bow (and dexterity). Magic is clearly superior

>>719477436
plus as far as I remember if you don't become an egghead you still need to learn 1h swords if you want Lee to teach you 2 handed weapons

Gothic 1 is better than 2 imo, but 2 is still great

>>719465674
Lol, this. They turned them into fucking maids cause women can't be degraded in any shape or form without their consent plus sex slaves would upset female developers from Alkimia.
>>719473791
It's far worse than this.
It was made by spaniards who never made any good game and main director/producer is a guy who was behind Gothic 4 and dlc to gothic 3, basicly the worst stuff that ever happened to gothic franchise.

>>719478224
gothic 1 is way simpler but has more soul
you have some broken mechanics like for example you can just rob merchants after beating them up instead of paying the price
but at the very least most of the npcs are unique and have cool personal weapons
In G2 they were too afraid to even give paladins non-generic sword because it would break the game or something

>>719478581
I just thought G2 was too generic and lacked the dark atmosphere of G1. My favourite part of G2 was revisiting the Valley of Mines

>>719478519
>turned them into fucking maids
grim
based devs would've instead allowed you to have your own harem of sex slaves after you kill Gomez

>>719478670
>My favourite part of G2 was revisiting the Valley of Mines
I hated it in G2
In G1 it was dangerous but also comfy
In G2 they turned it into wasteland with dragon snappers and fire lizards everywhere

>>719465829
>ja wo ist sie denn? wo ist denn die Kirche?
gothic 1 and 2 man. the dialoges feel so human in a sense

>>719473663
they have the german voice actor of xardas. there is some hopium

>>719477807
Akshually, Lee is the only 2 handed weapon teacher where you don't need to master 1 handed weapon.

>>719479110
doesn't he require you to at the very least have 1 level in it?

>>719477339
>waste
you might have had a point in gothic 2, but gothic 1, you get more points than you can realistically spend on a build

>>719479172
May be so. The other two trainers are completely autistic for some reason though. I wonder if this is a bug with Lee because it makes sense to master 1 handed before 2 because 2 handed weapons in Gothic 1 are just a straight upgrade over 1 handed.

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>>719479260
>building weapon skills in 2
>when you can summon skellies and kill dragons with purge undead, both chapter 2 spells

>>719457070
Gothic is already on Switch

>>719479260
>you get more points than you can realistically spend on a build
I hate hoarding all stat boosting potions in G2 till the late game
LP requirements there become insane
Glad that Archolos fixed that thing

>>719456196
these will be gothic graphics in 2012

>>719479379
Scrolls and summons are fake and gay
It is not your true power unlike bows and 1 handed swords

>>719479379
You can kill them easy with sword too. From chapter 4 till end of the game there is no challenge left in the game. They are the pay-off chapters where you are the hero and not a bum anymore.

>>719479450
Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves as well. There was a vanilla+ mod that basically did the same thing as Archolos. You'd end up very powerful quicker than normal, but it was certainly way more pleasant not to have to worry about hoarding the permanent upgrades.

>>719479317
pretty lame that 2 handed swords are bad in G2
they still look cool but even NPCs that are 1h masters tend to be way better at surviving than 2h masters
1h has pretty broken dodge / backstep moves

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Thoughts?

>>719476174
I know, but everyone's said that it's so good it should be played. I'll get to it eventually. I just stole a rusty twohander from the castle and went around killing pretty much everything I could find. I should go back to the main quest at some point.

>>719479759
I never use it because having more hp than any npc in the game is way cooler

>>719476592
>Why do you want to join Gomez
Gomez has bitches. Swamps has weed and New Camp just has rice and retarded mages trying to blow things up.

Gothic is one of the few games that did the otherwordly super weapon concept right. The entire game you have normal weapons and the final weapon is the metal as fuck magic sword. In JRPGs each weapon has some super exotic design like it could be the final weapon of the game but in the actual game you switch the weapon every 10 minutes against a new one that has +5 damage more making them all feel worthless.

God I love this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0wwv9AuV8

>>719480005
Yeah and you get superhuman stats from drinking all those potions right before the final boss

>>719479379
Thats what i did when i first ever became a mage, since then i just become a mecenary after like thousnd hours of gameplay

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>>719479960
They block you off the bitches pretty fast and the naked bitch you get only at the end of the game when they are your enemies anyway.

>>719480005
Yeah gothic is the ultimate roleplaying game with actual story and gameplay synergy

>>719480210
>the mc is interested in her and keeps asking people around about her
>can't even talk to her when you meet her in person
Such a shame
Gothic definitely would benefit from proper remake that fleshes out those plot points but I don't trust modern devs doing it any justice

>>719479960
>Gomez has bitches
Maybe if you work yourself up he will let you watch. The rest of us are just going to massacre old camp and then fuck the bitches that way.

>>719480491
>Maybe if you work yourself up he will let you watch.
His men are called shadows for a reason
They just stay there and watch

>>719480621
Theyre his shadow

>>719480210
You were apparently supposed to be able to fuck her.

>>719480491
He occasionally sends bitches to the ore barons.

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I hate those.

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>>719481982
Die.

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>turns your game into a cakewalk

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>>719454040
Boring ahh franchise, could never get into it mostly because of the movement controls
I tried both Gothic I and II

>>719483836
>Sword
It's an Epee

Consider this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw-nR3lkSrs

>>719484035
Consider this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLLRUtql_ys

>>719464629
nostalgic edition will be my next playthrough, but I kinda feel bad for playing gothic 2 without doing g1 playthrough right before
but holy shit I don't want to play g1

>>719484679
maybe I should ask what's best gothic 1 mod as well as I don't really know, they all sound pretty much same and add same things

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ah yes gothic thread
*sip*

>>719483836
>needs dex to wield
>still uses str for damage calculation
Rapiers are such weird weapons but still op af

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>>719467040
I swear that Theodens german voice actor also voiced duke Sigismund in the Gummy Bears, yet I haven't watched it in german in at least 30 years.

>>719484321
Consider these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iifoXyUaoNk&list=PL_9f94Oya0TDaazsqOUOZAszyHhDEr8Nr

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>>719474129
I remember 2 being pretty decent too, but not even Patty's patties could keep my interest i 3.

>>719484915
>ZABITO RUHRPOTTSKA
give it back, Piotr

>>719484915
Let me guess that one random event with the arabic guy

>>719474129
But gothic 2 was magnificent

>>719481161
optional Old Camp liberation could've been kino if they implemented this feature
and they should've done something with corpses of the fire mages that Gomez just left to rot

>>719485267
They're meant to be viable melee weapons for people who wanted to go with an archery build. I imagine it's also why they've got such high damage - they expected that you wouldn't have the STR to really pump it high.
It's kinda like crossbows for STR builds - they still scale with DEX, but they're a viable alternative for a ranged weapon.

>>719485267
Depending on your faction this is either the best or second best melee weapon in the game, no seriously even dedicated str build will want to use this until very late into the game.

>>719474129
>>719485516
I loved 3 until the final boss, suck my cock. Girls were hot and skimpy and I could fly around the islands as a parrot.

>>719486305
>Girls were hot and skimpy
there were no girls
your party was a sausage fest and the only girl was your sister
shame, because visually the game actually looked decent

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>>719484915
oh god he's back

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>>719485516
>I remember 2 being pretty decent too
I could never get into it. I tried maybe three times, it just feels boring. Would I have to play the first one to appreciate it?

glad I started playing crossbowman build on Archolos for the first time, stupidly powerful unlike G2 Notr where you have no chance to get enough skill points for everything

>>719459038
I thought they were Poles.

>>719459392
>shitting on eurojank while being an ESLfag yourself
That makes you either a spic or a chink/gook. Either way, you have shit taste.

>>719487449
There's no real way to build your character wrong in archolos but crossbows are just straight up silly, I made it to like level 20 with base stats just by killing things with low tier crossbows.
The game also constantly hands out free incredibly good crossbows all the time while with bows you have to rely on crafting.

I need to be honest with you, I'm glad pirahnna bytes dead

>>719487054
I couldn't remember a single thing from the first game when I started playing the second, so I'd say no to that.

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>>719486784
Those tribal girls in loincloths I've been using the monkey on in 2 to get better upskirt shots beg to differ.

>>719487987
>in 2
I've been talking about 3, that game barely has any girls

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>>719455404
my brethren

>>719484915
let me guess that abuyin ibn djadir ibn omar kalid drink

>>719488363
The game has the same tribal girls.

>>719488767
why did he gradually become more of a faggot with each new installment?

>>719489214
he wasn't shit in gothic 3, he took his revenge on the king.

>>719489029
and there are barely 3 of them and no brothels where you can spend a night with them

>>719489280
wasn't he loyal to the king in G1 and those were some shitty nobles that imprisoned him?
in G2 he just ditched his loyal men and went on a cruise

>>719489297
They literally have their own island.

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>>719454040

>Join New Camp so I can get 5th Circle Magic
>Kind of realize it's one of those games where one damage type is clearly superior because of the way it scales

Also fuck the lockon. Nothing more annoying than trying to turn to run but it just straight up not letting you do it. Or having to rapidly toggle it so you're allowed to hit something in melee.

>>719489794
yes, I think I visited it before deleting the game
There were still barely any female NPCs there

>>719489826
>Also fuck the lockon.
lockon is super useful for an archer when killing goblins
you can even hit goblins that are behind you

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>>719489826
being unable to sweep attack multiple enemies because only the locked target is damaged is the worst part of this game's combat
on the other hand that makes normal shitty goblins into a serious threat so fighting trash encounters gets interesting sometimes.

>>719489826
>>719490194
I'm playing Gothic 1 now and realized that I need to be soft locked on an enemy to hit and that it's not purely hitbox and hurtbox based. Are all the games like that?

>>719490194
Yeah well sweep and splash damage is privilege of the mage. In fact I'd argue that intended player path for gothic games is to be some sort of fighter mage hybrid, that's how these games play the best.

>>719490459
>Yeah well sweep and splash damage is privilege of the mage
Fire storm is a cool spell
Especially in G1 where you can cast it without wasting any mana when not charging it

>>719490459
You don't just turn into a lizard and start eating people?

>>719490459
So Magic can do AoE damage? I was building up towards that.
I just started Chapter 3 and was about to set off with Talas to visit the Orks when I went to bed last night. New Camp so I guess I still have another Chapter before I can join the Water Mages.

Also fuck the requirements for various things. I had the 2100 ore for Heavy Merc armor, but, "Oh no, you're not far enough in the game for that!" Fuck you Lee.

>>719490706
Doesn't it fuck up your level ups?
Plus you don't get to loot corpses

>>719490790
gothic is actually pretty cool in how it handles armors
they are a privilege, whenever you get new armor it always feels so cool
Plus at least you should be happy that you didn't join Gomez' guards

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>>719490790
Gothic games are known for gatekeeping their armor and it is somewhat artificial however the devs knew what they were doing. Armor is just defense and all it does is allows you to make more mistakes before dying.
There are zero artificial gates behind offense, you can get best weapons in the game right off the bat but you better be good at dodging and avoiding getting hit which is good for skill ceiling of the game. It's quite possible to clear the entire map in G1 in the starting t-shirt because you're free to obtain more damage but more armor is strictly restricted behind chapter progression.

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why are gothic threads gaining traction lately when the ones id made all died out with barely any interaction?

>>719489925
k

I refuse to join new camp simply because they make me water mage despite having 0 reasons to become one after being a warrior for past 75% of the game
water mage should only be for fire mages

>719491298
you have nothing of value to say. no discussion, just complaining, not even using gothic pics. you are the reason your threads fail

>>719487040
Polish game (spiritually)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXY6xo1Lg-A

i loved elex. going to give this game a go.. i was waiting for the remake but is that even happening?

>>719491489
it's supposed to come out in early 2026 I believe, but it's really a gamble if it will be good

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>>719491489
Remake will come out but it'll almost certainly be bad.

>>719491448
yeah, just join a totally different, rival camp in order to be promoted
It is bad idea and water mages have more defense (and offense options) than mercenaries
Plus, fire mages already can become water mages

>>719491591
Didn't they rework the character model at this point already after people complained it sucks?

>>719491676
Maybe but there are other problems, if they deliver a mediocre product I'll be already impressed.

>>719491615
my point is that being a mage should be rather early game decision, not being forced to become robed mage after being a bandit/armored mercenary
simply block off being water mage if you didn't have any magic education beforehand

>>719491298
Because i started playing it
I'm the main character of this universe

>>719491591
Didn't the studio literally die?

>>719491298
Threads on this dump of a site are either make ridiculous off topic bait to ensure replies or fake it till you make it by either samefagging or replying to every post until the threads grows enough in users to survive organically. I'm guessing the op did the latter and of the first 100 posts he's probably 50 of them.

>>719491676
that's not nameless guy though

>>719491807
nah, it is gay
I want to be acknowledged for working for water mages, not to be punished for not siding with Gomez' cucks

>>719491786
I think they are really trying to NOT screw it up otherwise they wouldn't have gone for the beta test to collect feedback They had voting rounds for the voice actors though I'd have preferred just the original.

>>719491875
the IP doesn't belong to PB.

>>719491875
i don't think any of the original guys are involved. it's some spaniard studio owned by thq nordic, they wanted to make another witcher 3 until literally everyone complained

>>719491875
Remake is made by Alkimia which is completely unrelated to piranha bytes.

>>719491201
>Armor is just defense and all it does is allows you to make more mistakes before dying.
And fashion. Don't forget the most important part like that.

>>719491591
Why modern devs chase hyper realism so much?
They are not rockstar, just make a game with ps2 graphic and spend the rest of the budget and time on refining gameplay

>>719491968
yeah but if it's made by "some guys" there is even a lesser chance of it being good. Not that PB was particularly good at a lot of things

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>>719491889
OP here and actually I made this thread after coming back from night shift, felt asleep and woke up like an hour ago. I was surprised the thread is still alive, my only post here are those:
>>719456790
>>719487906

but yeah the gothic threads usually die off pretty quickly and it doesn't surprise me, i love this game but coming back after many years the controls make it almost unplayable during first few hours. after that you get used to it

>>719491591
wow modern graphics age so badly. id rather play the original at this point. something to be said about how old ass graphics ignite your imagination a bit and adds to the experience. but then again maybe im just an old faggot

>>719492142
>"some guys"
That could've been an improvement but the game director of Gothic Remake made G3 Forsaken Gods and Arcania. Yeah, that Arcania.

>>719454040
Did they ever fix the controls?

>>719492114
desu that's what I wrote in youtube comments when the first remake trailer dropped. I said they should keep the graphics because they are part of the charm, maybe just upscale it using AI because it looks hilarious
>>719456196


they should just fix the shitty controls, add unfinished content and add more quests to latter chapters not completely change the game artstyle to some shitty UE5 slop generic asset flipper game

>>719491201
How do you dodge the Guard's Tomahawk Cruise Miss-- I mean Crossbow Bolts?

I tried doing some targeted beatdowns, but half-way through my second swing I'm turned into a porcupine. Tried to pick off the Guards first, but all the guys on the ground also have crossbows so it just happens the other way around. I can take down one guy, but then it's just dancing on a timer.

>>719492114
When people saw a high effort, low budget, short dev cycle AA game like New Vegas get dragged through the mud for looking like ass by 2011 standards (Fallout 3 already looked like shit in 2008) and had its scores deducted 35 points from every review for it based on graphics alone, it spooked every AA dev into trying harder to be AAA graphically even if they can't afford to do it and the game suffers for it. It didn't even matter that everything else about it was like 5x better than the previous game because it has the same graphics that were outdated then and hadn't evolved since.

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>>719479759
It's really good since enemies can't block the lightning attack, I just wish it didn't randomly kill people which you can knock out. Runes on the other hand are pretty garbage because some of them only fully work on humans, Cry of the Dead is nice for nuking groups of enemies tho.

>>719492530
>ummm ackshually you can keep that loot from those chests, that's not even all our loot I swear, the rest we hide out of bounds where you can't see it

>>719492449
Learn acrobatics
Sidestep
Don't fight them until you get better armor
Kill them with magic from a distance

>>719492449
You take on one guy, get xp for him and then run away. Or you can just wait until night and attack people in their beds. Sometimes you just have to tank them, there's one bandit camp in G1 and there's no real good way of dealing with it other than just stacking jewelery with arrow protection. Bows deal very low damage in G1 so going from like 10 to 30 defense is huge.

man the remaster looks really bad I am kinda sad. especially because Acholos was so incredible, they should have just given those guys the rights and money

>>719457672
Can you add it to steam as a non-steam game and then configure the controller?

The dragon fights in Gothic 2 might be the worst fights in any game where the rest of it is high quality ludo ever, maybe the temple orc fights in Gothic 1 are worse. The limitations of the combat become very apparent in both.

>>719492142
Honestly, it’s like they outsourced the soul of Gothic to the same people who thought Arcania was a good idea. At least PB had a weird jank charm-stiff animations, bizarre dialogue pacing, but the world felt alive and you could tell somebody gave a shit. These new guys are trying to polish it into another flavorless eurojank-Witcher clone. Gothic doesn’t need cinematic dialogue and motion blur, it needs a mud-covered NPC shitting on you five seconds after you load in.

>>719492859
they are really bad but luckily the game was smart enough to give you plenty of help and magic to cheese them. you really only have to fight the ice dragon and end boss on your own

>>719492751
I have Acrobatics, is there some special input I'm missing because all it seems to have done is make my jump into a dive and give me a bit of wiggle room between "landing with no damage" and "instant death".

>>719492775
>stacking jewelery with arrow protection

Now there's an idea.

I started g1 but combat is very tough
Do i need to lv up my str or something?

>>719492765
clicking anywhere doesn't. it just sometimes refuses to work. what do? i use firefox

>>719492998
Yes. You also need to level up your weapon skill for a better moveset.

>>719492859
>dragons
Bow easily solves them. It is not funny how buffed the bows are in NotR

>>719492998
training one handed with Scatty once is a great investment for your first experience points. then 20 or 30 strength and you should be good for the early parts in melee combat

>>719493042
I'm aware. You're basically forced to cheese them to beat them. Trying to fight them in melee is unplayable.

There's a dead zone between their maximum melee range and their minimum fireball range where their AI just turns off and you can just stand there and shoot them with impunity. Absolutely broken garbage.

>>719493131
>play bow build
>bow down endboss ignoring all mechanics
heh

>>719492994
>I have Acrobatics, is there some special input I'm missing because all it seems to
you can quickly jump to your enemy, kill it and then jump away
You can also jump while holding a sword and even swing mid-air
But honestly, either fight them 1 on 1, or get better armor, crossbows are not a big deal once you get it

>>719492859
True. I always keep some demon summon scrolls or stuff like that for those.

>>719492998
STR yes since that actually scales, DEX in G1 only affects range of bow or crossbow attacks so ranged builds aren't too good. Ideally you level up str until 95, get free 5 str from that guy in new camp and then you can do whatever. Unlike G2 the weapon skills are optional, they make the game easier but you don't strictly need any of them.

>>719493131
I don't even cheese fights, bows are just really strong and fireballs are easy to dodge
In melee range you can kill them quite easily if you just keep swinging your sword, you may also want to drink speed potion
Or just summon a demon to help you

There is nothing more comfy in the entire world than being at the swamp camp at night during a storm, smoking a water pipe, watching lightning strikes above the barrier and listening to the rain.

>>719489214
Revenge changes a nigga, or something like that.

>>719492998
Melee damage calculation in gothic is very basic - it's just weapon damage + STR - enemy armor. As you can imagine, early on you might be barely even getting through the armor, while pumping even just 10 or 20 more STR can end up increasing the actual damage you do by a huge margin. Likewise, your own armor matters a lot as well. Early on I'd recommend trying to get your hands on some, any armor you can. It makes a world of difference.

>>719493508
and then swamp shark kills you from behind

>>719492998
buy digger pants

>>719493508
reddit weather

>>719493729
digger is our word, you can say digga though

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>>719480474
Yeah found that weird as well, when I first played the game I thought be she some minor character in the story we save in some later chapter

>Came down with her, keep asking Gomez folk about her and where she went, constantly told to not think about it as they say she with the boss and be passed down as sloppy seconds to the ore barons

>Find her and she got nothing to say than the same generic line of 'You aren't suppose to talk to us' as she takes a bath with no reaction of us storming into the room to loot the chests after becoming a shadow. Even after killing Gomez and the other ore barons, still nothing, bruh everyone dead and you still having a bath!?

SMART KID

>>719489474
he went there so he could pay him back, he was a double agent kind of.
as i remember lee found out he was the scum behind the betrayal

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>>719491853
no i am actaully

>>719494632
she wants only bbc (big baron cock)

>>719493029
use foobar2000

>>719491201
i liked your way of thinking

>>719479759
got me jumped while fighting the dark dragon

>>719495623
does it heal him or something?

>>719495686
no it flips the lightening affect this sword has on you

>>719490909
You don't retain the +12 max hp per level up when you transform back, but you can run to a statue of Innos, pay 10 gold to get +1 max hp, go to sleep and repeat for as long as you want.

>>719487726
What's the difference?

>>719496409
Poles like mudcore fantasy, Russians like post-apocalyptic stuff.

>>719496918
>Poles like mudcore fantasy
they don't love sovietpunk?

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>>719495349
4chan x autoplays it most of the time, just by hovering. forgot to add the pic

>>719476174
>Are there any other overhaul mods as good as Archolos
Your reading comprehension is pathetic.

>>719487786
Shit taste? On the contrary, I said Gothic is shit multiple times in the thread, rooskie Gothicuck, rightfully so.
It's primitive. It's very ugly, and I don't like ugly things. It's low effort in general - if you'd play something else aside from it you would know that everything else from it's era stomps gothic into the ground, but of couse you did not, you live in your meek fairy world where gothics are the best games ever. You also probably believe that they're somehow rpgs because apart from having shit taste, you're also a retard..

>>719454040
>willingly acting as a sockpupept of Gomez
Even being a weedsmoker is better because they themselves acknowledged that most of them are in it for the weed. The "Ore baron" faggots thought they had real power and took themselves far too seriously.

>>719502442
You're the OoToddler from the other day who thinks OoT invented 3D action games and doesn't know what RPGs are. Nothing you say matter. You think a hub world with choke point loading areas is an open world. You're so fucking stupid you make the dumbest Polish toilet cleaner look like a brain surgeon.

>>719503120
Meatbugs go into ragouts, they're not conversation partners.

Space dwarf was here

>>719502770
I joined mostly to destroy it from within and by the end i succeded

>>719503120
A fine bit of retardation from you once more. I said OoT invented 3d action adventure games, which is true. And no, gothic is not an rpg no matter how you slice it, it's an action adventure game with light rpg elements. Stop coping, face the truth, and play a real rpg to learn what they are.

>>719507375
>I said OoT invented 3d action adventure games, which is true
Wrong.
>gothic is not an rpg no matter how you slice it
Also wrong.
You also said that OoT was an open world game, which was also wrong. You're a either a retarded spic or a retarded SEAmonkey. Either way, you don't know anything about video games.

>>719482270
use a blunt weapon

>>719508000
>Wrong.
No, I'm right. You are just retarded and refuse to accept the truth.

>Also wrong.
No, I'm right. You are definitely retarded.
Do you know what role-playing mechanics are? It's character building, party management, and tactical combat. The only thing Gothic has from that package is character building, but it's criminally lackluster compared to any real rpg like Bradley's Wizardry entries or even something like moronwind and goyggerfall. Gothic also has shit level design that barely made you use any spatial thinking - both in overworld and, even worse, in dungeons, and good environmental puzzles were always a strong point of classic rpgs.

>You also said that OoT was an open world game, which was also wrong.
Fine, I admit it was too much, it's a proto open world, not true open world. So far, that's your only good point, but you're just nitpicking there.
For example, a lot of people call Postal 2 an open world game, even though it's also hub based.

just stop replying to the troll you retard

>>719508825
Why not? I love to speak my mind to /v/tards, even if they're trolls.

>>719508754
>Do you know what role-playing mechanics are? It's character building, party management, and tactical combat
Kill yourself retard. Please commit suicide if you want i can explain how to do it step by step just end your life

>>719509123
Gothicuck, chill. Your beloved games were always shit, and I'm not the one responsible for that.

WHERE IS ARCHOLOS 2.0 KURWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>719464629
I would recommend all of these except for Odyssey. Feels way too much like a disjointed kitchen sink mod. And the voice acting (german) really blows

>>719508754
Character building was the only part of RPG mechanics you got right, and Gothic has that. I'd say it's amazing how ignorant you are, but you're a tendie so it's pretty normal.
>Fine, I admit it was too much,
No, you were just completely fucking wrong. There's nothing else to it. It's not even remotely close to the first game (2D or 3D) to do a big open world. LoZ and LttP within the same series could actually be called open world games.

>>719484874
There are surprisingly not that many. The only one I liked was Othello. It adds some nice new areas, short quests, and very good balancing
There is not too much tho

>>719491298
They released a new demo for the remake, that's probably it

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>>719507375
>I said OoT invented 3d action adventure games
Hi zoomie. PC gaming had '3d action adventure' in spades before OoT even hit the scene.

>>719464629
Don't forget Legend of Ahssûn that's also pretty good

Are there any mods that add unfinished content?

Hey, odd question, but does anybody remember that one Russian mod for Gothic 2 that was basically a giant kitchen sink full of stolen other mods? I can't remember the name and it keeps nagging me

>>719493308
Wasn't the strat to level strength to 100 and then use boosts to go over that? Or was that just for potions?

>>719511290
It's for potions, there's actually a bug if your strength is higher than 100 before talking to the new camp guy he'll just lower your strength to 100 instead of giving you a bonus.
>>719511258
Lhiver?

>dump every skill point into strength until 70 and get 1h mastery
>you can go and get scar's sword and rape every single enemy in the game at level 10

>>719510363
>Gothic has that
...to a very marginal degree. If you'd play a real rpg, even something casual like Fallout 1-2, you'd know that. Not to mention that all proper crpgs have an interactive world and/or characters that you could bribe and charm, even Wizardry 5 had that (and no, charming that one goon in swamp camp doesn't count); or outspeak with an appropriate skillcheck, or by telling an in-game discovered knowledge within a prompt based dialog system, which is also not the case for gothic. For example, U6 had lots of both first and the latter.

>LoZ and LttP within the same series could actually be called open world games.
They are not fucking 3d, idiot. I were talking about 3d games, all the fucking time. Clean your eyes.

>>719510808
Fair point. Just a year before OoT though.

>>719512442
>...to a very marginal degree. If you'd play a real rpg, even something casual like Fallout 1-2, you'd know that.
It's got fighter and mage classes with melee and various long range skills as well as sneaking and acrobatics. Since you're harping on combat, Fallout basically boils down to melee or guns. I know because I've played both Fallout games more than you.
>Not to mention that all proper crpgs have an interactive world and/or characters that you could bribe and charm
Gothic has a bunch of quests with different factions and various ways to finish things. At this point it just sounds like you're shitposting about a game you haven't actually played.
>or outspeak with an appropriate skillcheck
Dice rolls and skill checks aren't what make a video game RPG.
>or by telling an in-game discovered knowledge within a prompt based dialog system
Gothic DOES have that, you dumb tendie.
>They are not fucking 3d, idiot. I were talking about 3d games, all the fucking time. Clean your eyes.
Irrelevant, dumb ESLfag. The series already had a standard set for open world and OoT was nowhere near that.
>Fair point. Just a year before OoT though.
There are multiple 3D action adventure games that are older (and better) than OoT. And "just a year" doesn't mean shit when a year was actually a big deal back then. Sequels on the same console or within the same series on PC had huge differences between each other.

G3 is the one that actually does need a remake and it will never come because the G1 remake will flop

>>719513998
How does one remake G3? The game is so fundamentally fucked up like where do you even start?

>>719514129
Nah G3 would be kino if it weren't for the shit combat and bugs

>>719492662
wasn't there an island even, pretty hidden in khorinis with treasure which might be another of the guild's stashes. I don't remember exactly.

>>719456196
Diego was such a bro. Wish more games would do that.

>>719478224
gothic 1 is about being weak but then becoming a god
gothic 2 notr is about using ur minmax knowledge you learned in 1 just to survive

>notr stat bloated everything only to add a 120 damage 60 Dex requirement sword with 10% skill boost you can wear in chapter 1 that only gets outclassed near the very end of a dragon hunter playthrough

>>719513324
>mage classes
Too bad the magic system itself was garbage, with polymorph and telekinesis spell being the only creative ones. SS2 from two years before done magic far better within the confinements of a 3d action-rpg.
>acrobatics
Lmao, acrobatics is not even a proper skill like in Ultima Underworld or tes games. It's an ability that you either have or not, you can't become better at it, not in G1 anyways.
>various long range skills
It only has bow and crossbow, and you can only up it for about 15 times for the whole game, just like with other skills. Some even take less to master, like lockpicking.
>sneaking
Never invested into it, so I don't remember. Probably same shit like with acrobatics.
>Since you're harping on combat, Fallout basically boils down to melee or guns.
That's why I said casual. Even then Fallout's combat is infinitely more complex by featuring many different types of guns with different fire modes, happening on a grid, and letting you target specific body parts. Nitpicking once again, this time with even less substance. If you want an example of what I consider a good combat in an rpg, Baldur's Gate 1 and Wizardry 6 come to mind.

>>719513324
>Gothic has a bunch of quests with different factions and various ways to finish things.
I only played this garbage once, but I'm pretty sure you're just forced to stay with one camp once you picked it, and all it does is locking you out from few other quests from other camps.
>Dice rolls and skill checks aren't what make a video game RPG.
Yes it does. Even your beloved shitty game has them. And even with them, it's hardly an rpg.
>Gothic DOES have that, you dumb tendie.
Oh yeah, how much? Once or twice? Go play U6 or Wiz 6 to learn how it should be done.
>Irrelevant
No, relevant. Old tech rendered it much harder to make a full-fledged 3d game than a 2d one.
>There are multiple 3D action adventure games that are older (and better) than OoT. And "just a year" doesn't mean shit when a year was actually a big deal back then. Sequels on the same console or within the same series on PC had huge differences between each other.
You still hasn't named one though. You claim yourself to know so much about games since the previous thread, but never proved it.

>>719516093
>with polymorph and telekinesis spell being the only creative ones.
Are you pretending that games in the early 2000s were full of immsim style spells that had a bunch of environmental effects? Even now that's very rare.
>SS2 from two years before done magic far better within the confinements of a 3d action-rpg.
Absolutely fucking not. The Psi is SS2 was a huge letdown.
>Lmao, acrobatics is not even a proper skill like in Ultima Underworld or tes games.
What the fuck are you even talking about anymore? You're just namedropping games and vaguely alluding to mechanics without showing any real understanding of how any of them work. At this point it's pretty clear that you're a retarded tendie that played Gothic 1 for a few minutes, dropped it, and made it your life's mission to shitpost about it. Play some video games before you come back to shitpost, you faggot.

>>719516157
>I only played this garbage once
Nah, you played a few hours. That much is becoming clear. You don't know shit about Gothic.
>Yes it does
No it does not. Your idea of what a video game RPG should be clearly comes from the Bethesda handbook, which is just about the worst popular method of making video game RPGs.
>You still hasn't named one though.
Brave Fencer Musashi on the PS1 shits all over OoT because it has puzzles that aren't braindead and bosses that aren't waiting followed by stunning them with an item you just got. Not to mention it had a better day night cycle with actual NPC schedules.

You can have another reply when you actually play some fucking video games instead of just namedropping ones you've heard of.

>>719514129
Just start from scratch. Redo everything, villages, npcs, storyline, quests, the map.
The ideas are there in G1/G2.

>>719516467
>immsim
Not a real term. The fact that you use it unironically already shows how much of a retard you are.
>The Psi is SS2 was a huge letdown.
You never used it past tier 3.
>You're just namedropping games and vaguely alluding to mechanics without showing any real understanding of how any of them work
Obviously, you don't understand that as you never played these games. UU's acrobatics skill determined the amount of fall damage you receive. In moronwind acrobatics let you jump higher and determine the fall damage. In G1 you just HAD acrobatics or you DID NOT have them. There were no gradations to it. It's an ability, not a skill.
>that played Gothic 1 for a few minutes, dropped it
I wish that were true. But no, I actually wasted about 20+ hours of my life on this shit.
>Your idea of what a video game RPG should be clearly comes from the Bethesda handbook
My idea comes from good rpgs like the Wizardry series. Your idea comes from cheap slavjank that hardly meets the requirements of being rpg.
>Brave Fencer Musashi
I'll check it out, thanks. Sounds better than OoT indeed.

>>719511258
>>719511568
Nope it was Returning 2.0. God that was terrible I don't think I ever felt such agony while playing a mod

>>719512280
>every single enemy in the game
you can't damage trolls with it, I think

>>719515621
it is not super easy to find and vendors like to equip it instead of selling to you

>>719518190
Yeah so just beat the shit out of martin and you get a master sword for free, he has untrained 1handed skill so his moveset is predictable and exploitable.
Not like he sells anything else of value so his inventory disappearing means nothing.

>>719518458
ah, so he is not immortal
then I guess it would work

>>719518583
Oh and I forgot to mention, immediately after beating him up just use an oblivion scroll on him so you can finish the quest for the dude with transform scrolls and avoid having to pay fine for lord andre.

If the sleeper awakens, is he still the sleeper?

>>719519198
it is your job to make sure he stays asleep forever

>>719514129
the game would benefit from smaller disconnected maps
Basically the approach the Gothic 1/2 and Witcher 3 had
Trying to make the whole continent and then populating it with copy-pasted villages that have 1-2 npcs in them wasn't a smart idea
Ah, and it seems like NPCs actually travel between those villages in real time so sometimes you need to wait for literal day for them to finally come to where you want them to be

>>719518190
Just kill the thieves guild people for it after finishing the blood chalice quest
You can provoke the upper district guards by shooting them and then just juking them and running in

>>719520931
>Just kill the thieves guild people
gay, the thieves are cool

>>719521752
They threaten me, they die.

>>719514916
Yeah, I think the island is visible from where Lares stands in the port.

>>719514916
yep, it also had some trap with spikes that would kill you unless disarmed

>>719522147
I think their leader is a bit of a bitch but the rest are fine