I played the back in 2012 - 2014. Is it still good and fun?
>>719461487Depends. What did you like and hate? There's been a lot of changes.
>>719461487Nope.There's still zero sense of class identity.Most of the leveling is intended to be done entirely solo, despite being an MMO. You see people out in the world, but it feels completely soulless as there's no real interaction.The storyline is utterly dreadful and more focused on pushing forwards progressive shit than telling a story. The gameplay is very repetitive and extremely easy.
>>719461743>The storyline is utterly dreadful and more focused on pushing forwards progressive shit than telling a story.who the fuck is playing mmorpgs for the story?
>>719461487Ive been enjoying the open world content barring the woke story shit.
>>719461487The game died for me when the eu /vg/ guild became inactive after the first expansion.
Path of Fire is the only good thing that happened to that game. Everything else has been mostly dogshit.
>>719461791Modern generation of MMORPG players. Story has shifted away from being the focus in GW2 over the years, though. It's there, but it's not like FF14. You can completely ignore because what opens up content is getting to lvl 80 and how you get there doesn't matter.
>>719462041>Modern generation of MMORPG playerskill'em all
>>719461892>>719461979what really hurt the game was the five-year gap between pof and eod. people assumed game was abandoned and living story updates were "wait three months for an hour of content unless you like grinding" bullshit.
>>719462103how is the current xpac. the new areas are looking like the one of the main game. comfy as hell
>>719462152those are not much of an expansions it's two-three living world updates packaged and sold to you. now that they finally closed the dragons stuff, all the new stuff feels like OC shit that completely clashes with GW1 lore. basically the new team has made it their game now. some people like it, I don't find it interesting. path of fire is the only one that feels like it's worth the money. gave me that filling of a journey that gw1 expansions used to have.
>>719462152Hard to say. Last few expansions are clearly half-assed because they're cutting down on costs, but at least they're yearly now. And you have to wait a year to get the entire expansions because they spread it out.
>>719462603>because they're cutting down on costsIsn't GW3 in development?
>>719462768That's the rumor. And then people starting having fits when they hear about it.
>>719462152First map looks nice and has a lot of stuff to do, The other two are boring trash. I don't even know what the story is about anymore.
>>719461487I checked it out since XIV is in a rut. I do enjoy the overworld content, wish XIV had that. Maps feel static and lifeless in that game.
Since like EoD I feel like the cast is 80% strong independent women. Where did the original cast even go?
>>719462949Is the new xpac woke as EoD?
>>71946294913 years have passed in un-universe since the game began. Some are dead, some retired.
>>719462768Supposedly from a shareholder meeting it was mentioned it is but who knows how long it will take until it gets released.
>>719463036It's full of girlbosses, but besdies that its not much of anything.
>>719462848I remember a dev soft-confirmed this in-game once. I was there, despite barely even playing the game. It was after fighting a world boss in some haunted swamp-type zone. iirc he said the next expansion would be the last, or it was an "I can neither confirm nor deny" type thing where logically you'd only choose that wording if you can't truthfully deny but don't want to confirm. Or maybe both. Of course that doesn't rule out GW3 getting stuck in development hell but still.Source: trust me bro.
>>719463245>It's full of girlbossesUgly or beautiful girl bosses?
>>719462848I don't get the controversy. GW2 has been out since 2012. It's not like you have the usual "oh no, I sunk a decade of subscription into the game" since expansions were the only purchases you needed.
>>719461487Yeah, the only MMORPG that gets the massively multiplayer part right
>>719461743What people are mad about the community in GW2 is you're not really supposed to stop, chat and form a group to do content. Players organically come together for public content and then disperse.
>>719463719it doesnt get that right at all
>>719463783doing instanced 8 or 25 man raids is not massively multiplayer.
>>719463637Those type of people unironically sunk 10000 hours into the game or bought a lot of items in the gemstore/bought gems to convert them into gold.
>>719463843gw2 map events are trash
>>719463905That's certainly your opinion, anon.
>>719461487dungeons got completely phased outserver choice don't matter for shit anymore, not even for wvwyou've missed on living story seasons you'll have to pay for to play + expansionsno new races
>>719461791Nobody really.But they still force it on you and you have to sit through it, and that just sucks.
>>719464247It's the answer to "how can we get more players into MMORPGs?" and someone decided they want the non-genre fans.
>>719461487The thing that repelled me was the 46.000 different types of currencies to gather. You need you boobledeewhoop with you whoopeldeeboop and the xistercoin to get a realm of the X with the Y coin to get 1000 lmaopoints to exchange for the 330 cogs you need to get the 100 diamonds. Now get to it
>>719463905But still massively multiplayer. While doing instanced content is not.
>>719463430not that guy but we had the two pretty cunts (anise and the gw1 girl)not sure if the bear or shrek count as girlbosses
>>719464371you weren't kiddinghttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Currency
>>719461791the grand majority of the dialogue in living story (which has a ton of exclusive items, content and currencies) can't be skipped, so you'll be forced to sit through the dogshit story
>>719461487If you continue playing after LS2, you are a troon-adjacent niggercattle.
>>719465846better to stop after the good parts (PoF/LS4/early IBS) than a barely nothing like LS2
>>719465846As if Trahearne and Scarlet are quality characters.
>>719466018>barely nothing like LS2>>719466147You're both missing the point entirely: from LS2 onwards the game has become overtly ideological. The first troons have been canonized in LS2. Not to mention that ANet's treatment of SPvP and W3 foreshadowed the total neglect that'd follow. While PvE turned into a FOMO driven MTX-racket.
>>719468242It also stopped the gacha patching model where updates lasted for 2 weeks and got deleted afterwards.>While PvE turned into a FOMO driven MTX-racketI have no idea what you're talking about. Especs being locked behind expansions?
>>719468683I'm just glad LS1 came back.
>>719461487I remember seeing this same thread yesterday when I was really druk
>>719468825can't be
>>719468683>I have no idea what you're talking about.Timegated, patch-exclusive items (e.g. sentinel statline).
>>719462949Destiny's Edge retired and they were signature characters.
>>719469647My only question is are the woke devs/content gone?
>>719463876whales gonna whale
>>719469091Huh? Just buy stat selectable exotics from the wvw vendor and stat selectable ascended from fractals or strikes
>>719470856My gear from 2014 is still the best lmao
my main is a joke to arena net, so I uninstalled and will probably never return.
>>719471348>If my char is not the meta it's bad
>>719471543>my main is a joke>not the metalearn how to read retard.
How is the ERP in this game?
>>719464371That is the fate of every MMORPG that goes on for too long. At least there aren't a million rep grinds
>>719470856Mein Neger, statlines like sentinel have been inaccessible for several years, for anyone who didn't get the recipes and didn't stock up on the ores. The point still stands: from LS2 onwards the game has been modelled to facilitate FOMO MTX first first and all else second -- with a backdrop of [current year] and [current thing].I do log in every year for a week and the game manages to disappoint me every single time.
>>719473313Isn't sentinel fucking useless when soldier exists?
>>719473313>I do log in every year for a week and the game manages to disappoint me every single time.Is the "log in to keep LS episodes" still around? That's the reason why I've had the game installed for seven years now and also only logged in when new releases came around.
>>719472940pseudoblacked with charr on human girlsfuta shebullsasura pedos
Fem Asura transmog options are still abysmal I see. Who thought it was a good idea to make Asura clothing unisex and decide on no shirtless options or tight ass hugging pants should exist is a faggot imo
>>719473554That stopped with the icebrood stuff (LS5). After that it became expansions with set updates for owners of the expansion.
>>719473313>wiki sentinel's>check items that allow it>comes up with a shitload of stat selectable items>check the inscriptions/insignia>sold normally for guild commendations, also sold normally on the TPYou're just full of shit anon. I'm not even going to log in to check a legendary's stat selection.
>>719473313>base game stat line>Inaccessible>Recipe sold by every weapon or armour crafting merchantI swear, most people that moan about GW2 turn out to have not played it for the last 9 years.
>>719474352CAP?
>>719474352I swear no MMO has had such default negativity towards it like GW2. Some people simply never got over the fact it wasn't GW1.5 and continue to seethe about it.
>>719473313
>>719473554I don't know.>>719474087>>719474352I may aswell ask you what you'd feel if you didn't have breakfast, you dumb temporally challenged turboniggers.
>>719474638those irrational people take away from what are legitimate problems of the game
>>719473554Nope, there haven't been any living world episodes in years, so there's no need to log in during the "current" episode
>>719474771>posts misinformation>gets proven wrongYou aren't even using that hypothetical correctly dipshit
>>719475735STOPHE'S ALREADY DEAD
THE EXPANSIONS ARE ON SALEIn descending order, which ones should I buy?
>>719461487It wasn't good or fun back then either so you should adjust just fine.
>>719475735How did you survive past the age of five, being incapable parsing time? You are arguing with current information about past affairs. >Mein Neger, statlines like sentinel have been inaccessible for several years, for anyone who didn't get the recipes and didn't stock up on the ores. >have been inaccessiblr for several yearsSentinel being just an example. I am not familar with the current FOMO garbage, but I still have skins and recipes from past events in my bank that sell for a fortune on the AH.
>>719473625>pseudoblacked with charr on human girlsAssumi approved
>>719476181Elder Dragon Saga Complete Edition (HoT, PoF, EoD, all Living World seasons) is top priorityThen SotOAnd JW last
>>719476181Get to 80 first. Expansions are regularly on sale.
>>719461487It kinda became a game that focuses on open world exploration and activities.And the story is hit miss miss but its def he most fun story to actually play of any MMO.One of the expansions was a bit woke but the writer for it got fired but people on /v/ wont shut up about is and now keep crying woke about the entire game even thou its one of the rare MMOs where there are almost no Ugly women in it.Biggest selling point i can say about this game is that it has no truly dead content as people will do activities on almost all maps.Instead of jsut endlessly raising the level cap and power level of gear GW instead gives you new shit to do and use once you get a full set of Ascended gear for one class in less than a month you can use that gear for literately every piece of content and honestly over 90% of all content can also be done using exotic gear which drops like candy in the endgame and events or from vendors or just bought for cheap on the market-board.As its primarily only used for transmogs.I guess Base game dungeons are kinda dead but you can still find people for them if you open a party finder someone will join.The game uses an event timer system all and events give rewards that someone needs.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timersSO people will usually do shit from every expansion inn this game.
>>719476698>Biggest selling point i can say about this game is that it has no truly dead content as people will do activities on almost all maps.That, anon, is where you're wrong. I wish they would re-purpose dungeons somehow.
>>719476853>dungeons>instanced contentholy shit. kys
>>719476181Get the Elder Dragon Saga https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/27271/Guild_Wars_2_Elder_Dragon_SagaComplete_Collection/Right now its the most important expansion bundle you can get.Living worlds are in between expansion story content and not just side content but important plot elements.And they are an amazing source of gear and gold and some even give you new abilities.In fact flying mount is tied to season 4.50$ may seam like a lot but its like more content than you can clear in a year.Play these in order like a Story RPG whit MMO in between and then decide if you want the future expansions.
>>719476853As stated you can still get people to do old dungeons whit you.And many are also soloable whit some of the elite specs.
>>719477075Living World is also the hidden cost people overlook because they think expansions were the only content game got.
>>719476258You're writing about stuff that isn't inaccessible, they've been available since ascended crafting was added about 12 years ago. Your example holds no weight and the materials to make them aren't scarse either. Anything that was time limited has been added in the years since you got them to the point where there's almost no item that's actually inaccessible outside of annual festivals.>AHThere isn't an auction house, theres no auctions, its a trading post. You only buy or sell items at your chosen price.This fucking guy proves more and more he doesn't play the game.
literally nobody mentioned that this MMO has the most atrocious monetization out of all MMOs I have ever played>literal thousands of FOMO items in the gemstore that roate in and out>Lootbox exclusive items>they stopped doing living world seasons years ago and now they do paid ''mini expansions'' that launch with 1 dogshit map and they add another map 6 months later and that's the whole ''expansion'' done, onto the next one.>the ability to convert gem to gold makes the whole economy and every coveted item (such as legendaries) into a huge goldsink to make it more appealing to use your credit card to finish that sweet legendary, whatever activity you do in the game is just made to farm gold, people do not care about anything else in pve just farming gold with mindless meta events>anet abandoned wvw years ago and they add a tiny morcel of "content" every few years in the form of a new legendary usually.>you can only get mount skins in cash shops>you can only get glider skins in cash shops>the homestead (player housing) is also just a huge goldsink to make you buy more gem to convert to gold>they are literally selling you an animated .png skybox for your player housing in the skybox>every boat skin (fishing is dogshit btw) is a gemstore item>gemstore exclusive skins, especially lootbox exclusive skins look much flashier and more defined than pretty much anything else in the game>everyone is rocking 10 infusions (basically auras on your character) and look as retarded as possible because that is the symbol of wealth>you want new bagslots to store all the shitty non-loot items designed to clutter your inventory? gemstore (highest tier bags cost hundreds of gold to make)>you want new bank storage slots? gemstore>you want a new build slot? gemstore>you want a new equipment template? gemstore>new character slots? gemstore>new crafting license slots? gemstore>you want unlimited use salvage and gathering tools? gemstoret. 10.000 hours in this shit
>>719477691You really need to stop posting old pastas, anon.
>>719477708shut the fuck up faggot
>>719477226People used to bring up End of dragons over how the game had no expansions for years ignoring the fact that living worlds are basically on the level of current expansions.Icebroood saga might as well be an expansion.
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>>719477691The game has no sub and the gold economy is such that you will over time get gems and be able to upgrade bank slots wo having to spend real money.I dont care about buying cosmetics like at all i only use trnsmogs from gear i earned so in total i spent around 50$ on the cash shop in 2 years (And also spent a decent chunk of gold i earned in game) just for the extra character slots so i have all the classes playable and added like 1 material storage expansion and 5 extra bank tabs when they ware on sale and some shared inventory slots and a invitation to the Myst-lock Sanctuary. An average expansion + sub in other MMOs will cost you more than any basic cash shop stuff.
>>719477691>skinslol
>>719477756Most of it's completely wrong. >There isn't a single expansion that had only 1 map on release and only 1 update. >WvW had it's alliance update this year, moving away from the old server structure so you can play with guilds without paying to change servers.>some mount skins earned from collections and wizards vault>same with gliders>the whole point of the homestead is spending whatever you want to make it look nice, if you choose to spend money on cosmetics only you're going to see then thats up to you.as for account/utility upgrades thought the gem store, thats every single mmo you're complaining about
Im thinking about either getting into that or Old school runescape... idk what desu...
>>719474638>>719474973>Some people simply never got over the fact it wasn't GW1.5 and continue to seethe about it.I'd say that's one part of the problem. The other is people constantly brining up outdated information and presenting it as current state of the game. Issue being their old information goes back years and years.
>>719461791I just started playing the game again after dropping the game shortly after launch like 13 years ago and these Anons are correct -> >>719464247 >>719465801The story IS dogshit and moves at such a pace that I scratch my head over why people cared about it to begin with back when I was hearing discourse about it back in the day (seriously, unless something changes after Path of Fire which I'm doing right now, I find nothing interesting about the narrative to really latch on to. It's very pulp fantasy.)However, everything after the vanilla story has it's cutscenes play out in-game, so you no longer have the ability to skip the cutscene like you could during the visual novel sections of the vanilla story. There's times where the actual gameplay in the story instance is interesting enough, but the format does mean you HAVE to sit and watch (or alt tab to look at something else) while NPCs yap.That being said, the overall main story scenario is not as girthy as something like FFXIV,so you're not stuck with a character you hate for like 40+ hours like with a character like Wuk Lamat (and to give some credit, when GW2 was faced with equally hated characters they did just kill them off.) Plus you can jump around to different parts of the story pretty freely. I was doing a bunch of content out of order to unlock gameplay features sooner and I didn't even bother doing the last chapter of season 1 of the living world story when I got sick of dealing with The Joker and didn't need anything from the last chapter gameplay wise.
>>719477691>complaining about cosmeticsAlso, it takes like an hour or 2 to farm enough for gold for 400 gems if you really want that stuff
>>719478827>storyholy shit. you can click/skip through all the dialogues and cutscenes and just have gameplay in the story scenarios.
>>719478827Story in GW2 is just very typical high fantasy fare. Making it such a big part of the package was a mistake because it never was on THAT level of quality, though.
>>719478827XIV fags can only talk about story in MMORPGs.
>>719478963there isn't a single mmorpg with a good story.
>>719478915This is true in the vanilla story which features the visual novel cutscenes, yes. The thing is, they retire that entire system after the vanilla story so every cutscene from Living World season 1 onwards, unless it's a prerendered cutscene or those animated exposition cutscenes are unskippable. If you are really disinterested in say, a very slow talking bearman NPC talking to you about the history of a house he's giving you, you cannot skip that bit of dialogue because the scene is playing in real-time without player input. There's some cases if dialogue is playing in the open world where you're free to just leave the area and let everyone yap while you do other things, but if you're stuck in a story instance where you cant leave the area there's nothing you CAN do but wait the scene out. This is something even veteran players who like the game criticize about it. This problem only gets worse once they got the budget to have the PC voiced again and drastically cut back on the amount of dialogue spoken only in text like in Living world season 1 and 2. I get the impression if you've even played the game that you have not touched it since back then, so why interject if you lack modern context?
I'm guessing no expansion meets the exploration quality of heart of thorns?
>>719479718Later maps are more open because of mounts. Whilst they feel good to use and make getting around easy, their existence means you're never thinking about how to get anywhere, you can just go there.It does remove something that HoT had with its structure.It does means the maps can be a lot grander in scale though. The first map in the most recent expansion is really nice visually and thematically.
>>719478894>farmingI prefer to have fun in a video game, you are the reason why gw2 is dogshit
>>719478963Yeah for me it's a case where the overall narrative moves too fast to give any moment in the narrative enough breathing room to seem particularly interesting (for context, I'm currently on chapter 13 of Path of Fire atm.) even from the bits of two more recent expacs that I dipped my toes into in order to unlock some features ahead of doing the story in chronological order. After playing season 1 I do understand where players at the time were coming from (I remember reading people complain about The Joker character all the time back when it was live.) Especially since it seemed to just take what was set-up in the vanilla story and tossed it all in the trash to introduce just a new cast of characters with hit-or-miss characterization to fight a saturday morning cartoon villain for over a year. (I think Rytlock, Rox, and Canach are cool at least.) But then there's other moments with character deaths I remember hearing about and after witnessing them myself I wonder why anyone gave a shit to complain about it to begin with. (Seriously, some of these characters that get killed off that the game want you to care about have like, maybe 5 conversations with the PC.)
>>719480289>their existence means you're never thinking about how to get anywherehas anyone tried exploring without mounts or is that just not possible? basically my favorite zone was tangled depths and it sounds like there's basically nothing like that in the later expansions
>>719480382story was shuttled between different writers basically on episodic turns which guaranteed nothing ever really hit since everyone had their own priorities
>>719469647>Destiny's EdgeAh yes, team of badasses with backstories you got to interact with throughout your personal story that got replaced by... this?
>>719479564>The thing is, they retire that entire system after the vanilla story so every cutscene from Living World season 1 onwards, unless it's a prerendered cutscene or those animated exposition cutscenes are unskippable.I hate that shit because it reeks of "budget". Same in The Old Republic when personal stories end.
>>719480434Depends on the zone, and what mounts you have available. If you're working with only the mounts from Path of Fire, much of that explorative DNA is still there because the abilities of those mounts are designed more as extensions of your movement capabilities. If you have the Skyscale mount from Season 4 of living world (which in that context was tied to a legendary grind so it took ages to actually earn) or the Secrets of the Obscure expansion (which offers a more streamlined way for players to earn the mount, but still can take multiple days of effort to get) that mount in particular fucks with exploration alot and makes much of the other mounts feel more redundant because it's basically a helicopter for the player. (That being said, the Secrets of the Obscure maps is designed with that mount in mind, so exploration of those zones with the dragon is actually alright.) What I've been doing is just making my own calls on when I want want to use what mounts. If I'm just trying to clear a checklist of chores for something or just getting from point A to point B I might exploit the omnipresent utility of the skyscale, but if reaching a particular point on the map would seem more fun using the mounts intended for it I try to use them unless something becomes tedious enough to just give up on playing "fair" and bringing out the helicopter dragon to make the task easy. Nothing has seemed as layered as Heart of Thorn's maps but the wider scale to account for mounts brings it's own charms (I've been loving the path of fire zones visually, shame none of them seem to have anything to drive players to keep playing in them like the Heart of Thorns maps.)
>>719461487Visions of Destiny, bois.
>>719461487it was never good or fun and has only gotten worse over the years
>>719480319You grind in MMO’s. That’s how it’s always beenThe main thing people did in GW1 was look for spots where they could take their ritualists and farm it with spirits
>>719469647I'll be honest here brother, I genuinely dont know why anyone gave a fuck about any of these guys when they were barely present in the vanilla story to begin with and appeared even less with each expansion. The only actually good character out of that group was Rytlock and he's also the only one out of that group to actually stick around as a result.
>>719481087this lineup absolutely reeks of desperation to get people interested again
>>719480967thanks for the info
>>719481087what the fuck is indiana jones doing there?
>>719480434Each expansion tries to consider the possibility that the player only owns that expansion.Gliding became such a core thing that you can get the basic gliding ability with any expansion but need HoT to improve it.Mounts have rental points in some maps to help you get around quicker but only last for a short while within that map.Things like the skyscale can be unlocked with either LS4 or the SotO expansion, having both makes it much stronger though, enabling you to shoot fireballs when flying and other stuff.Tangled depths was a cool map because it was an absolute maze where even following the map you still got lost between the layers. Most hated it for that, missing that it's the entire point of going so deep into the jungle that you've lost your way.
>>719481507What makes it desperate? How would they do any other specialisations wouldn't be considered desperate?
>>719481634Indiana works with a ratman sidekick to pull out random "relics" to use as gadgets. Basically is a pseudo-gambler spec for Thiefs with an Indiana Jones flavor where you pull 2 random relics out of a pool of like 8 to use in place of your stealing action (with traits to better control your RNG of what you pull.) It also has a gimmick of being able to use some skills while they're on CD but with the chance for the skill to backfire and punish you for it.
>>719481803>HEY GUYS WE'RE BRINGING PARAGON AND RITUALIST BACK, EVERYONE LOVES GW1 REFERENCES>REMEMBER RAZAH, HE SURE WAS COOL HUH>WE'RE MAKING LONGBOW RANGER VIABLE (FUCK YOU IF YOU WANTED ACTUAL LONGBOW TO BE VIABLE)>LET'S JUST MAKE THE PERFORMER THEMING/AESTHETICS OF MESMER LITERAL>YOU GUYS LIKE INDIANA JONES RIGHT?it's all just shallow pandering
How is this game with friends?I don't have friends, but I was curious, I mostly played it solo, and have found certain missions annoying.
>>719482047I mean, Revenant is explicitly about channeling legends.
>>719482353yeah well Revenant's always been gay
>>719482047You are explicitly finding reasons to hate it.>game 2 refers to game 1>razah for a class that's entire focus is powerful entities from the past>the ranger uses a bow>the oldest joke surrounding mesmersI haven't got a clue about gambler, I don't play thief.
>>719482414GIMME COMMANDO
>>719482829Banished to eternally portal hop and some april fools missions in GW1
>>719482414Not to mention Paragons and Ritualists were getting added specifically because of player demand. (and for Warriors in particular, Paragons were the best choice on how to add a support spec that fit the class fantasy) That anon's bitching would be the equivalent of bitching about when SE added Samurais to FF14 after years of people asking for playable samurais in FF14 because Samurais were also in FF11 and popular.
Started playing it, and still have to play through second & third expansion. I like the gameplay & exploration, and the horizontal progress with how no content is made obsolete (Besides maybe classic dungeons). Still GW2 have many issues as many anons have said before on this thread.There might be a GW3, and it might be good and a improvement over 2....or be mediocre or even shit, I cant predict the future.
>>719482159there are good guilds on the EU server
Man I miss random arenas
Post Asuras, faggots.
>>719487162no
>>719474638>>719474973>>719478483Fuck you. I can distinguish this away from GW1 and Im still mad>The entirely of sylvari, marydom, and all that shit>changing the core concept early on to appeal to china>move away from dungeon>tranny shit>story shit>characters being shit>you're force to be with faggot coal burner kid while he blame everything on you for his emo problem>Living story bullshit>get a bag as a reward that has a bag inside that has a bag inside that has junk>turning Cantha into Washington state and being force to go through that melodrama>That sky castle expansion? Yeah, Demons are friends, not enemy! Concept of Horror acutally LOVE cuddles!>housing is shitAGain, fuck you for ignoring all the other legitmate problem because WAAAHHH GW1FAGS ARE BEING BITCHES!
Whats the best race for ERP?
>>719461487its the same shit anyone trying to say otherwise is a shill
>>719489230I agree with dungeons and housing, but most of those are just opinions.
>>719480608>team of badassesAll you see of them in the personal story was them bickering like children on a playground. They were better than Dragon's Watch but they were still shit because all the cool stuff they've done happened in the book.
>>719481634I fucking wish it was Indiana Jones.
The gameplay and combat is pretty good for an MMO, WvW (mass pvp) is my favorite mode and fun af to me but its a very divisive mode, anyone who plays for strictly pve and the story might need to get their brain checked though.
>>719491320imagine if they were actually introducing new weapon types or new movesets for existing weapons instead of bundles and changing the F1 again
>>719461487Yes, since everything (besides dungeons) is still viable and you can pick what you like from the decade+ of content.
>>719491190Honestly Canach alone mogs the shit out of both groups and its a shame they couldnt find ways to give him even more screentime.
>>719476181HoT has some cool maps and metas and PoF has the unironically best mounts of any MMO maybe even game in general.
>>719492061the funniest part is Anet apparently hates that players love Canach so they cut out his whole introduction chapter when they re-released LWS1 as a discrete set of missions
>>719492061>CanachNU-UH
>>719492162Anet also had the sense to give Trahearne like 3 lines of dialogue after the vanilla story before taking the first opportunity they could find to kill him off so an eye for an eye I suppose.
>>719492162Probably due to seething that the VA ditched them or something. Bender got replaced by fucking Matt Mercer, Canach is a zesty fucking faggot now it's pretty annoying.
>>719477691>t. 10.000 hours in this shitYou can exchange gold to gems. Getting gold is so piss easy that you have all quality of life shop items after a month or two of casual dailies.
>>719492339While I can understand the hate, I actually liked Trahearne.My first character was a Sylvari so I met him earlier and from an outside perspective his background and character arc actually make for a pretty cool story culminating in the cleansing of Orr.
>>719492783Tells you how many players played as Sylvari, then.
This game has the biggest player skill discrepancy of any MMO I've played in my entire life, and I've been playing MMOs since UO launched in the late 90s. It's fucking unreal how bad the average player is.I don't know who's to blame for it, maybe ANET for not inherently supporting DPS trackers and disallowing gear examinations, maybe because they create 90% of the game to have players just face tank through without even thinking about mechanics... but god damn, you guys have no idea if you don't play gw2. Like I'm not even exaggerating this is a game for mouth breathing retards and ESLs with 1000 ping.
>>719492783Not him but I play sylvari and its the opposite effect>get a mission where you're suppose to get the cabbage sword>go through hell for it>just handed Tranhearne the sword>fast forward>Pale Tree tell him he get the sword>ignores that you did all the stuff like getting the sword >you're outright told you're nothing compare to 1st bornYeah, no, fuck Tranhearne.
>>719492881>maybe because they create 99%* of the game to have players just face tank through without even thinking about mechanicsit's this one. There's no incentive to get better at the game when you can just follow a meta event zerg and get everything short of Ad Inf and Envoy armorand when doing actually challenging content is like getting kicked in the dick repeatedly for slightly more efficient farming than the guy who just rolls his face on the keyboard in a meta train
>>719492881This might blow your mind - players kept dying in STARTER ZONES after launch. Yes, most don't know how to play because they don't account for rolling, conditions and self-healing. I remember Chinese launch was accompanied by all-around nerfs, including starter zones and some events got outright removed.
>>719492783I played a salad too but I still remember my friends all wondering who the fuck this guy was because for whatever reason the narrative director didnt have the sense to make him have a cameo in the other racial stories so it's slightly less jarring when he comes in to become the main character in YOUR story for the last 20 levels. Even as a plant I still wasn't a fan over how much he hogs the spotlight in the last act and stole the cool plant Monado from me after my racial storyline. On that note, I think it's cool once he dies that they have a secret quest for you to finally get your own plant Monado as an easy ascended weapon. I use dual swords so I keep the broken one in my offhand.The character concept itself wasn't terrible. A better writer would have been able to make such a character more likable, but the same could be said about many of the other prominent NPCs in the game.
>>719492992In the end you still get the sword and the personal right to finish off Traherne. Meanwhile the tree is still attempting to recover and is likely going to die off so they can finally erase all the salads from GW3.
>FFXIV >wuk lamat being a bitch ass nigga, everyone hates her gay ass>just gets set to the side at the end of the expansion, never to be seen again>gw2>traehearne>hes aight, kind of a gary stu, pushes the player character to the side to be the hero which pisses everyone off>first expansion>literally go through vietnam to murk his ass with his own sword at the endHell yeah, thats how its done
It's good but don't expect to play it constantly like other MMOs. But the game lets you take breaks and come back without losing progress which is the best part. I haven't done raids in like 2 years but I'm probably going to try and get back into them with the new elite specs.
>>719492783>>719492992>>719493181>>719493285a lot of people hated him because his ever increasing role overlapped with personal stories no longer being about YOUR character when you pick a faction
>>719493392That anon tries to justified that Shithorn is good if you play as a salad, which is wrong in itself as I stated with that whole sword and you're not a 1st born comment.
>>719493368ironically the new raid was proof positive the devs don't have even close to the juice they had in HoT and PoF, it's fucking awful
>>719493368New elite specs suck dick btw if you didn't get to beta test them. There's literally only one decent, kinda creative one and that's Engineer's spec. So unless you play engi good luck with these creatively bankrupt, mediocre as fuck, hastily-thrown-together elite specs designed solely to make a quick buck due to the extreme backlash towards the shitty last two expansions. Pretty much nobody was planning on buying VoE at launch until they suddenly had elite specs.
>>719493392Yeah that just really hits the nail on the head. The game was heavily marketed around having your PERSONAL story where you get to make decisions that "matter" during an era where western RPGs were your decisions "matter" were at their peak in popularity at the time. Finding that the narrative was just yet another diamond shaped prism of multiple paths all leading linearly to the same endpoint with the transition of being locked into the one path herald by a guy that for 4 out of the 5 races you've LITERALLY never seen before just left such a sour taste. Even replaying that personal story recently when getting back into the game as soon as I finished Claw Island this dude reminded me of exactly how I became uninterested in the narrative at the time. I didnt even get to 80 to witness that while he gets a cool set-piece for the end of his arc the climax of my story was just a turret sequence against a bunch of dragons.I 100% understand the complaints coming when after all of that, the next story arc had nothing to do with the dragons the game was marketed around and instead about introducing a bunch of really lame new characters in order to fight The Joker. Absolutely wild transition to witness recently.
>>719493504I didn't try to justify it. I said I understood the hate.I just like the overall arc not really the execution. Or, if you're poetically inclined, I liked the idea of it.Outside of the final fight I was also a fan of the Orr campaign. The races coming together, their magics and technologies combined in the pact gear for the war effort, the network of forwards bases and the slow crawl of an army across an undead continent. That was rather intruging and I was having fun.
Can someone recommend a fun but complex class? Thanks.
>>719493534That's a weird thing to plan for when the first thing they said when revealing the expansion was that it was going to have new elite specs. Do you play with clairvoyants?
>>719493882> The races coming together, their magics and technologies combined in the pact gear for the war effort, the network of forwards bases and the slow crawl of an army across an undead continent.I didn't care for the core game's story personally, but when HoT came along and the Pact tried the same thing and flew into Vietnam and got absolutely obliterated instantly, I was immediately invested. Especially when main characters started dying off.They pulled back from that pretty quick though. I can't remember the last time a main character was killed off. Fuck, Braham should have died like 5 times already, but motherfucker is still somehow around.
>>719493392I generally wish CC choices amounted to more.
Do I need to go through the expansions to get the better gold farming meta events?
>>719461487>>719461743>another MMO run into the ground by troon ideologuesthey really can't design any video game well
>>719493882>The races coming together, their magics and technologies combined in the pact gear for the war effort, the network of forwards bases and the slow crawl of an army across an undead continent. That was rather intruging and I was having fun.Its a nice idea, but again, this all fuck when that retard didn't do shit during the Scarlet invasion, and so utterly bad with intel that most of the Pact that you help build up dies because he retarded.
>>719494083Because they don't want a repeat of Destiny's Edge. Already tried it with Dragon's Watch, but zany Charr, cripple Asura and two lesbians never struck people to the same effect. Rytlock REALLY carried that crew.
>>719492881Is this modded?
>>719494009Hate towards JW hit an all time high with update 3, giving them plenty of time to scramble to try and think of ways to garner interest in the next expansion. The forums were flooded with people basically saying they'll never buy another expansion at launch and will instead wait until it's fully released a year later, because JW's updates were so fucking terrible. These expansions are also actively worked on throughout the year they're released, they're no different than LWS in that regard. You're paying $25 for 1/4th of a product that isn't even done yet. So yeah, I legitimately believe that around the release of Repentance, they scrambled and came up with the elite specs (something they previously said they would never do again) to ensure day 1 buys.If you've played the specs, you'd realize that it's entirely possible. Reused assets, lazy design, absolutely broken in one case, with the elementalist spec actually crashing the servers. I don't think that's ever happened before.
>>719494502I know there was a thing with ritualist spirits permanently sticking around. What did ele do?
>>719461791I do>b-but MMORPG story is... LE BAD!!RuneScape was my first MMO, so excuse me you trollop
>>719494616can someone finally nuke the USA?
>>719494452No. After the disasterous woke EoD bullshit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTiwKvp348), ANET was hemorrhaging players and immediately put coomer skins in the gem store. They've been pretty consistently adding coomer skins since then.
>>719494684sold
Is it okay to play the thinnest male Norn body? The other ones are so... goofy.
>>719494502>You're paying $25 for 1/4th of a product that isn't even done yet.good thing they're doing it again with voe
>>719494129you don't have to play through the stories, you can just walk from one map to the other or get a friend to help you out if you have TP to Friend
>>719494613Literally broke the servers. They had to shut down the game and temporarily disable some of Evoker's abilities.
>>719494009we knew a new expansion was coming before it was announced, retard. And the one-two punch of SotO and JW had a lot of people completely uninterested in whatever it might have been.
>>719461487Fuck, you're making me want to play.
>>719482353>>719482387Revenant never clicked for me. I wonder if it was left out of the original roster because it wasn't that interesting?
>>719495852Base rev never worked for me, but herald (especially once it got access to perma quick, just made it so much smoother to play) and especially vindicator I've had a lot of fun with. Vindicator is a cool spec when you focus on the offensive parts of it and start skyleaping like you're an ff dragoon. And hitting a full GS5 on something is just always lovely.
>>719482047The only one of the new specs I don't really like is the antiquarian, the theme is just way off. I think I would have liked it better if it was better themed, it's just way too silly (and not in a good way like the minstrel).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTiwKvp348>playing this woke garbage
>>719481087>that charrrepulsive
>>719493534galeshot is what I've always wanted in GW2 and it looks good so I have no idea what you're talking about. I have medium legendary armor so I'll try engineer too
>>719497031The Charr you see in that image entered a symbiotic relationship with the ass parasites you can see dangling from his arm.
>>719463041God she was so physically attractive
femcharr pussy
Am I the only one who actually liked the story and thought it only got better from HoT up to Champions?Also surprised nobody brought up the whole "Beat up the bigot" thing yet (despite the bigot in question being a chink that preaches "Waito Piggu go home.")
>go around Queensdale find some "boss" in a cave>kill said "boss">group of people show up and get mad
>>719498743I mean, he had a point
>>719485973GW1 had all those fun pvp modes while GW2 never got past conquest and stronghold. What a joke.
>>719494684did the game get any better after that shitshow of an expansion?
>>719498763What year is it
>>719498763this is not 2012
>>719477548>You're writing about stuff that isn't inaccessibleHoly shit, I thought you had given and moved on. You still struggle to parse tempus. Not to mention that ascended crafting required the base recipe when it got implemented, so that, too, is a moot point.>Your example holds no weight and the materials to make them aren't scarse either.Nigger, is your native tongue Piraha?>Anything that was time limited has been added in the years since you got them to the point where there's almost no item that's actually inaccessible outside of annual festivals.>anything>has been added>almostIf ANYTHING had been added, I wouldn't sit on a fortune in form of skins and recipes that still cannot be obtained outside of the AH.>There isn't an auction house, theres no auctions, its a trading post. Are you a slave to semantics or just regular tribalist niggercattle that's defending his choice of corporate poison?>This fucking guy proves more and more he doesn't play the game.You have the reading comprehension of someone who didn't just get dropped, but actually slammed into ground in their infancy.
>>719491623W3 outside of roaming has been a nothing but a blobfest and perpetual afk karma train. Instead of fixing the performance after release, they've slapped the garbage target cap onto everything and never lifted it. So large scale PvP boils down to rotating players in a dense ball to soak and distribute AoE into nothingness -- which is the #1 reason "organized guilds" stand, while their individual players are worse than dogshit, and why "competitive" GvG boils down to i-frame spam, blind and aegis spam.The only skillful PvP in W3 is limited to 1vX (or any other outnumbered constellation) and even then its greatly diminished unless the X happen to be dedicated roamers too.
>>719501830>stand out*Bleh. The average GW2 W3 player is worse than the average player in any other PvP mode in every other MMO.
>>719461791MMORPG stories want you to take it seriously but tell it in such a painfully boring way. No I'm not sitting through a hundred cutscenes and walls of text with with bland exposition while my party is waiting on me fuck you
>>719501119>is wrong>comes back hours later>is still wrongDamn, you just don't learn
>>719492881damn
>>719502718>Damn, you just don't learnYou shouldn't have left your Amazonian tribe.
>>719461487It’s extremely grindy. If you’re a new or returning player, it feels pointless unless you’re prepared to spend 500 hours just to get a full set of ascended armor. And that’s only ascended. If you want legendary, don’t even think about it.Also, you need money for everything, gathering isn't a thing for the absolute majority of materials because many of them are either based on luck or you can only acquire x amount of them daily, and it can easily take months if you go that route, if not years.The game is heavily based on the economy, which isn't a bad thing at all, but before you start making actual money, you need at least 200 hours of gameplay and smart play.This is why MMOs are niche again.
>>719498743most people enjoyed the story from HoT through LWS4 but IBS is a significant downturn. Champions is an outright embarrassment.
>The sheer amount of money, time and effort that goes into crafting a legendary
>>719461487The first two expansions are worth playing. The last three got progressively worse.
can I fuck kasmeer yet?
>>719504214>come back for a bit>sink a few dozen hours over a couple weeks into finishing a legendary>lose interest again for yearsit's just such a repetitive slog farming up all the gold you end up needing. Anet needs to crash the Mystic Coin market yesterday.
I played with friends It sucked lmaoVery not f2p friendly Everyone, even strangers want to buy something for you so your no longer f2pJust so you can do high rank shit.
>>719461487noit's p2w tranny goyslop trash
>>719481087this is fanart satire right?
Which is better? Human or Norn?
>>719504775Norn's running animation is weird
>>719504775norn sex
>>719504214The only legendary I have is the welfare amulet they gave away for replaying most of the story content of the game, and even that was a humongous undertaking. I can't even imagine what it's like to try and craft a legendary item from scratch.
NORN SEX
>>719504965every legendary SHOULD be like that, just do some fuck-off long collection with a bunch of weird requirements, don't make me spend 2500+ gold on top of that
>>719503719You being a salty little racist doesn't stop you being wrong in every post you've made
>>719505174>this high quality rendering is used nowhere in the game outside of character select and creationKinda ass desu
>>719501830>W3Always kinda weird me out when people come up with their own weird, random notations for things that already have common shorthand names.
>>719461487It is pure p2w nowadays. Just Google how to make money in GW2, all of them require you to already have a gazillion hours in the game, and you literally can't do anything without money.so top of buying expansions which cost over $100, you have to waste an additional $100-200 to get started.I don't understand how this game has such a high rating on Steam.
>>719461487Depends. Are you trans? If yes - then yes. If no - then no.
>>719506578You just make anything up and hope people will believe it.
necromancer still dogshit?
>>719506578So where's the p2w exactly? Legendary and Ascended gear is only 5% stronger than exotics and the only mode where that even has a difference is WvWvW and even then it's a pretty negligable amount.
>>719506958And ascended gear is not hard at all to get, you can even craft it for amounts of gold that are pretty easily obtainable.The only real grindwall in the game is between ascended and legendary, and the only reasons to even go for them is the QoL offered by them and bragging rights.
>>719506958you can exchange real money for in-game currency and you need in-game currency to accomplish almost all long-term goals
>>719461487What made it Guild Wars is long since dead. The fantasy setting ended when they added rainbow wings and other troon nonsense. Every boss fight is just a spam shitfest of indiscernible colors and pixels exploding nonstop. The active playerbase at this point is made up of furries, trannies and other degenerates. If that sounds like fun for you then yeah, it's good and fun.
>>719507683You can also exchange in-game currency for the premium currency
>>719507983Irrelevant. Someone who swipes their credit card has an inherent advantage over someone who does not.
>>719508032The advantage you buy is cosmetics and utility like inventory slots.P2W means you have a direct power advantage over another player and you can't do that in GW2, there's nothing premium to get that makes you stronger than someone else.
>>719508032That I cannot refute, but if I am not mistaken, PvP is entirely normalized so even if you get yourself full legendaries by whaling, that will net you no real advantage.
>>719504465Isn't she a dyke?
>>719508204Inventory slots, bank tabs, and material storage are a significant advantageSalvage-o-matics are a significant advantageLegendaries are a significant advantages (being able to swap completely swap builds on the fly is HUGE for endgame content)Extra character slots are a significant advantageall of these are acquired much more quickly simply by swiping a credit card rather than grinding out gold to convert to gems
>>719507312It's really one of the few, rare points I'll give the game. It's completely horizontal gear progression. It's actually kind of nice knowing that I haven't played the game in almost 3 years but I can just come back and pick up where I left off without having to worry about some faggot ass treadmill.>>719507683With the long term goals mostly being cosmetic which is not an advantage in itself. Mind you a lot of MMOs already run gold to currency exchanges anyway to combat gold sellers.
>>719461487I've been slowly going through HoT and it's been fairly fun but man, current MMO offerings suck nowadays.
>>719508627>Mind you a lot of MMOs already run gold to currency exchanges which makes them P2Wwas that meant to be a gotcha?
>>719508698Depends on the content they sell and maybe outside of bank tabs there isn't a lot you can't get an advantage over in the game. A lot of the shop stuff is just 'pay for convience' and it's like yeah the salvage-o-matics are nice but you need to use it a fuckton to get your money back on them.
>>719506958>So where's the p2w exactly?I mean, it took me 2 months to reach Tier 4 fractals and over 1k gold. Ascended armor cost me about 600 gold to craft, agony infusions shit around 90 gold(I messed up a few times), and reaching level 500 in crafting another 200 gold.I was playing almost 8 hours a day thanks to being jobless for a few months. But I could have easily just bought gems, exchanged them for 1k gold, and gotten everything I wanted in a day or two, and reached Tier 4 fractals in about a week playing only 2 hours a day.If this isn’t pay-to-win, then I don’t know what is.The reason why I'm mentioning fractals is that it is the only non-time-wasting and non-grindy way to make gold. 50g/1-2 hours a day.
>>719508604An advantage in a game sense is usually one player being stronger than the other. You're only talking about a convenience advantage. I'm fairly sure the salvage-o-matics aren't even more efficient, wasting more money in the long run and taking thousands of uses to actually return a saving on the equivalent cost in gold.
>>719509203ah yes, "it's just pay for convenience/speed" the last bastion of retards defending P2W trash
I still have fun with it. It's not my main game but I'll hop on every once in a while to do some Fractals or meta events. My favorite part is the world and art design, I just really love the way the game looks, even for a 13 year old game I think some locations are fantastic and I like being in them. Still wish the grind for gear and cosmetics wasn't so fucking long though.
>>719509151There is so much wrong in this post I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll just laugh at one point in particular but it's not even particularly more egregious than others.>reaching level 500 in crafting another 200 goldlmfao
>>719509151If we're talking p2w in fractals then there's no real advantage. All you've done is just bought your way into high tier fractals and getting there isn't a show of skill, it's just a timesink in terms of getting the gear. Like you COULD just spend the money to get the armor required for high tier fractals but you're gonna walk into them and probably suck shit at it. And it's like, what are you getting out of this exactly? You're paying real money to do end fractals to get what exactly? To do more fractals? Literally WHAT advantage are you getting paying into the grind for gear mode?
>>719509474Yes? It takes about 100g to max out a crafting discipline unless you're running around gathering all the resources manually
>>719461487Turned from a failed sequel to GW1 with at least some korean design aesthetics to a gay tranny game for ugly fatties. Sad!
>>719509551it's not like doing the grinding manually makes you better at the game than someone who swipes. Swiping at least gets you there sooner so you can actually play the game and improve.
>>719509607More like 30, 40 if you want to spend a little more to do it a little faster. And this is after Four Winds where the supply of materials got eaten up by gamblers so price is likely slightly higher than normal.
>>719509729400-500 alone is like 70g
>>719509416But you're not winning anything. You aren't a better player and waste both gems and gold for using it.You're forcing an entirely different term used for power over other players into paying for utility.
>>719509692Improve what? You do know the ONLY difference between low tier fractals and high tier ones is just the agony right? Low tier fractals has no agony while high tier ones will just throw out absurd mechanics you gotta follow. You are not blocked from doing any of the actual content itself, you're just paying to play hardmode and if you want to do that, cool. But it's not advantageous.
>>719509474>reaching level 500 in crafting another 200 goldnta, but the most efficient way to reach weapon and armor crafting level 500 costs around 140 gold.source: gw2crafts.net.It took me 100 gold after finishing all content + gathering some stuff for 10 hours.
>>719509151>ascended armor>600 goldNigger, what the absolute fuck are you doing?
>>719509890CMs objectively require more mechanical execution skill than non-CMs
>>71950979760g for weapon professions, 15g for armor
>>719509798When the entire "endgame" is focused around grinding for gold, gaining an advantage in grinding for gold is winning
>>719509949Dude is clearly just cherry picking the most expensive part of anything, adding 20% inflation, and extrapolating that outlier figure to the whole gearing process lol. Ignoring any materials you would gain from just playing the game, wizardmart, achievements, drops, etc.
>>719509976>counting the final cost instead of the initial cost1-800-COMEONNOW
>>719509949Crafting. Also, it took me 80 gold to craft Book of Secrets because I didn't have blood shit, and I learned that there is no reliable way to farm it.You shouldn't craft in this game. I learned that.
>>719510073Wow, you really notice that saving after the 6.2 million uses. Truly the greatest investment from the worlds smartest player.
>>719510298different anon: you don't rebuy shit after you get that infinite item. And that shit adds up time if you dont get it.
>>719510187You said 400-500 is 70g, I clarified that 400-500 for weapon professions is 60g and for armor professions it's 15g. Not sure what kind of gotcha you think you got me on. To get Hunstman to 500 from nothing it's like 86g. To get Leatherworking to 500 from 0 it's about 35g. That's about 120g to get your crafting set up, from having literally nothing (which would not be the case when you're at the point of crafting shit for fractals or whatever but it's fine I'll play your stupid game).
>>719510434merchant npcs are literally everywhere in the game and buying salvage kits off them cost nothing. There's no advantage. inventory slots are cheap as dirt too.
>>719510470you're doing that thing where you count the final cost, not the initial cost. You still need the initial cost up front even if you end up making some of it back.
>>719461487Its exactly the same.I havent bought anything past PoF, but thats because nothing is worth it, I think up to that point there is plenty of what makes gw2 unique, but also stays its welcome and isnt worth anything past that as far as I can tell.
>>719510540There is, you don't have to rebuy shit and if you forget, you get an inventory of shit you cannot sell or salvage
>>719510540>bro just pay for a slightly smaller convenience so you don't have to pay slightly more for the bigger convenienceit's sinister
>>719510568Do you need me to mail you 13 gold nigger?
>>719510261No. Just... Fuck no. I don't get it. And this is BUYING the daily mats, rather than crafting them.
>>719510642It takes 10 fucking seconds to talk to an npc to buy a fat stack of salvage kits that'll last you a decent while until you stock up again.
>>719510631Then your money is better spent on the bag slots not the money wasting salvage kit.
>>719480608sex with rox
>>719510903>>719511101or you could just never do that again and have the inventory slots for more of the endless piles of garbage the game vomits on you
>>719510673Most of the time, it's best to make the cheapest possible ascended item and transmute the stats available using the mystic forge. Can easily knock 10g off some.>>719511203Well you're clearly such a fucking whizz with good purchases, why not just buy the merchant on demand for a mere 900g
How to get gold in this game? watched many tutorials, and I still don't understand. Are there any areas where you just fight things and get gold?
>>719511380just follow a meta train and roll your face on the keyboard
>>719511380The Silverwastes if you just started. Other metas take too much time, so don't even bother.
>>719511380Whats your actual goal with the gold you earn. Doing lots of things can get you material or item rich but there's little point in turning it into gold to then turn it back into other materials you actually need.Work out what you're working towards first.
>>719511380>Are there any areas where you just fight things and get gold?Not really, everything follows some sort of structure, however loose. The most brain off type of farm would be meta-trains like anon mentioned.. just open up the event timer page on the wiki, find a big meta event happening in like 10 minutes, go to it, hit 1 a few times, get rewards. If there's anyone there with a squad tag up doing a train you can just follow them to the next one or just ride your own "train" with the event timer. I usually do Chak Gerent in Tangled Depths, to Octovine in Auric Basin, to Dragonstorm in Eye of the North, to Drakkar in Bjora Marches. Most meta-events are on 2 hour timers and they're all staggered so that there's always shit to do, you can make your own "meta-train" any time of day really (well, as long as you're not trying to do more obscure stuff at odd hours without a group already made like Serpent's Ire at 3am). There's Drizzlewood Coast and Dragonfall to for farming in one map more consistently, but both need you to follow events pretty diligently.There's rift hunting, which is only really profitable when a few different systems align (good "map bonus rewards" tracks on maps that currently also have rifts). It's very brain off, you just follow a beacon to a "whack mobs until big mob spawns, whack big mob til dead" event repeatedly. Another thing to note about GW2 is that they don't give you raw gold for much. Most of your profit is in items to salvage/sell or put more effort into refining/crafting into more profitable items.
>>719511380Fishing
>>719511380>Are there any areas where you just fight things and get gold?No. Everything is super time-based, just like in real life, and trade is the biggest part of the game, meaning gold comes from trading and not killing some monsters.
>>719511380FractalsSome map-wide meta events from the living world and HoT You won't get straight gold, just make sure to salvage and sell everything you can and you should get a decent profit.
>>719461487>I played the back in 2012 - 2014. Is it still good and fun?depends on whether you are jobless or not. If you have a job, this is by far the worst MMO to play. I switched to FFXIV online for a reason, I just couldn't cope with never never-ending, stupid amount of grind. I grew up, for fuck sake, I have a job.
>>719504214I was able to get all the legendaries I could ever need and I only started playing seriously about 3 years ago. Didn't even have to swipe for golds once.
>>719514550I'm convinced a lot of people look at wiki pages or recipes for some things and just get flustered and overwhelmed without actually making a real effort to understand anything. Unironically maybe they need Mukluk's videos for retards to simplify it all for them. I started about 3 years ago as well, probably about half the legendary armory you have but I play like 1 month on / 2-4 months off.
Should I be opening unidentified gear and salvaging them all or just sell it on the TP?
>>719511380Most of the money you're earning won't be liquid gold but instead gear that you salvage into materials which will be your main income.At minimum, do Chak Gerent, Octovine (as well as killing Treasure Mushrooms for a chance of invisible shoes that sell for 2k golds), and Dragonstorm daily. They are fast and are always populated, also a chance to drop an infusion that goes up to 10k. Use Blishhud and get the boss timer module so you can have notification alerts on which meta is happening in that moment. Dragonfall is another good source of money if you can fit it in (although you may need a fast or flying mount to do the post-event or you'll be left out by the pugs). South Drizzlewood meta is another good one, you can skip doing the north portion of the meta since it doesn't offer much aside from items for the otter enrichment infusion.Do IBS5 strikes as well since they're super fast and offer decent rewards for the time it takes to do them, and Ice Shards is a very useful and flexible commodity. If you want to earn a consistent daily source of income, start dabbling into Fractals and work your way up to Tier 4. Doing fractals + CMs with fractal god title can easily get you 120~ liquid golds in 3-4 days. I'm giga lazy and I don't do open world farming so these are the activities that I do at a minimum on a daily basis.>>719514962Opening because there's a chance for masterwork unid to drop a rare gear instead.
Fucking ages ago, but I remember the mid-tier blood/materials selling for a fair amount, because it's harder to encounter in high-end zones, and it's used in crafting shit. Absolutely not something for a high level player to farm towards, but it's worth noting when you're leveling up, that maybe those mats might have some value.
>>719514962See pic related for the autismo uber-efficient strats. Opening unidentified gear has a chance to upgrade, even multiple times (ie blue can potentially upgrade to green or even rare/exotic) so a lot of people will tell you always at least open. Honestly though if you don't want to fuck with inventory management and minmaxing salvage tools and shit you're not really fucking yourself THAT hard just selling the stacks of unidentified gear. I personally have the 3 premium salvage tools, open all unID, salvage blues with copper-fed, greens with runecrafter's, rares/exotics with silver-fed (but I price check exotics and sell on TP if worth more than 50s).
>>719515581Yeah I think the t4 ones are fairly valuable. The higher tier ones are produced more because they come from max level content, while the lower ones largely come from lower level content which isn't as populated. Generally I think if you want to profit off of your Laurels currency you buy t4 bags not t6, then use the profits from selling t4 to buy t6 if you need them.
>>719515616To add to what this anon says, absolutely pick a character and class that you want to main and stick with the longest because if you want to play this game seriously, you'll need a character with a ton of bag slots. Invest all your gems into unlocking bag slots and give them all the 20 (or 30) slot bags you can manage. Being able to just open all the shit you find after doing a bunch of meta events without reaching full capacity is a game changer.
