>make a wizard Tav>feel like a side character the whole game because Gale is literally you but cooler and better at everything
Just respec him
it's a roleplaying game.just make up your own badass backstory for yourself.
>>719463746That's the problem with Larian's signature characters or whatever they're called. If you're not playing as one, you're gonna have a bad time.
>>719464091That's why the dark urge exists
>>719463746Game like this should have a Fast Forward Button
>playing with friends>made a wizard Dark Urge (Magic Missle build with 1 level of hexblade for the curse)>story is all about me me me>Gale is just an arm sitting in camp>friend is Astarion so he gets story too>two retards who didn't listen and made generic guys instead of playing the story dudes are now crying about being background dudes>keep mocking my 'minions' Dark Urge is based
Tav should never have existed. He's only there to appease losers who dont want to play as bhaalspawn in a baldur's gate game.
>made a sorcrer durge>either shit talk Gale for being a pussy all game, or just bite his hand off and never see him again
Baisc Tav is retarded. Dark Urge should be the ONLY background for our player character. It's fucking BALDUR'S GATE for fucks sake, in every game you play as Bhaalspawn but retarded subhuman faggots at Larian listened to idiotic EA feedback of redditors who didn't like checks to not be le mean and they ruined ton of time and development splitting the PC into Tav and Durge.
>>719463746This, but Edwin.
>>719465432Playing a simple wizard in BG2 is retarded when you have Edwin and Aerie around. At least play wild mage or a sorcerer, those two are way stronger.
>>719465074>>719465146What causes this autism to post the same sperg twice?
>>719463746wouldnt know i never recruited that gay boy
>>719463746>>719464091Durge was the default during the EA up until some time close to launch. Tav was only added at the last minute because EA queers seethed about being violent and "evil" and even then durge was massively toned down >>719463746shame he's boring launch gay rapist gayle and not based, creepy regular rapist gale who just shows up and never actually proves he has a tadpole
>just don't recruit or kill the characters you don't like lolOk my camp is empty now. When do I get to recruit likeable characters?
>>719463746Ill never understand why people make generic tavs. Either go dark urge, or go with a companion as originpersonally i dont like the system, i feel like im missing out if i dont do a playthrough of every companion
Sorcerer spends the entire BG3 bragging about being cooler than everyone around
>>719465836Yeah, the BG1/2 crowd were insufferable with their game ruining feedback. They took away the quasi-romance with sexy Daisy as well because of it (and replaced it with the Emperor). I remember when the goblins fought tactically and smart, used explosives, threw potions, etc but the BG1/2 fans were shitting their pants going it's too hard and they didn't have enough prebuffs to deal with it. Kind of sad. Shadowheart was much more prickly, Wyll was much more morally ambiguous ... they cried about that too. It's a shame, because the feedback really did help make the first area feel more tight in terms of exploration (just like it did for DOS2) but dumbing down the enemies and the characters for Biowaretards was a major blow to the game.
>>719463746Origins are an objective bad choice. Neither do people play them as main, nor are they elevating the tav main, on the contrary. Origins are larian's circle jerk.
>>719466446This but with short races like Dwarves and Gnomes.
>>719464091Even playing them is shit, as they aren't voiced. I might've played as one, but they are silent. Wtf.
>>719466412>the BG1/2 crowd>replaced it with the Emperorwtf are you talking about you deranged faggot
Basic Tav lawful good paladin Had a great time. I don't want to role-playing as a gay vampire, a goth slut, a simp mage, a druid, a negro or any of those other fagsI like the frog but I don't play as her because I want to FUCK her !!!!!!
>>719466498Biotrannies were crying about the game's difficulty and how all the companions were "mean" and about how difficult the combat was (because enemies abused the fuck out of terrain and thrown items) and how "creepy and sexualised" Daisy was. All those downgrades were down to them. I wish Larian should make D:OS3 instead of stooping to the level of bioware redditslop like BG/DnD.
>>719466323people don't want to play as the origins and there wasn't an aggressive enough fan campaign telling people to play as durge, a lot of people thought durge had to be that gay furry and most online posts told people to play as tav
>>719466412>etc but the BG1/2 fans were shitting their pants going it's too hard and they didn't have enough prebuffs to deal with it.lmao what? there are only a handful of fights that are actually difficult in anyway
>>719466560>I don't want to role-playing as a gay vampire, a goth slut, a simp mage, a druid, a negro or any of those other fagsbut you are playing as a paladin, the tranny class
>>719466412>BG1/2 fans were shitting their pants going it's too hardBG3 is far easier than 2 and especially 1. Literally nothing in BG3 is as hard as this nigger.
>>719466603they are making some gay spacegame, my esl friend. I also wonder how much of that shit was due to hasbro
>>719466603Only in your schizo head, take your meds
>>719466683Yeah, because of crying in EA from BG1/2 fags. One of the complaints was "I don't feel like a heckin hero because the Goblins are too strong!". It was really pathetic.
>>719464091This was far worse in original sin 2. At least durge is by far the coolest of them and he IS the main characterNot many games allow you to play as an amnesiac big bad
>>719463746larian forcing their oc down your throat for the third timesucks though
>>719466603The original characters were i often insufferable dipshits that made you go «why would I ever party with this person?» And since the game’s shit writing provides no answer to that really important question, they had to be made much more tolerable.>>719466845fick off, you ignorant cretin
>>719463746Just don't have that faggot in your party then. Why would you need him if you're already fulfilling the wizard role.
I wish larian changed the whole nonsense where the player switches between controllable characters and the world doesnt react to it in any ways. Scenario where you pick up a quest from npc, then you go talk to it with another party member and the npc doesnt understand that its a different character feels retarded. >go fuck a prostitute as female mc>change to male npc, the prostitute goes "back for more cunny stuffing eh?" why is it like that
>>719463746>Making a TavSee, that's where your problem lies.Make a Durge.
Good Durge or evil Durge?
>>719466154Talk to Withers, recruit mercenaries.>>719466346Sorc players do that in the tabletop too.
>>719463746That's unironically the reason for why I made an orc barbarian instead of a wizard like in the past games. And barbarian worked pretty well, unlike playing a wizard. Because Karlach being a barbarian as well doesn't really emasculate you. Because you can make her fall in love with you (or kill her), and you'll stay cool in either scenario. Tearing shit up with my Karlach wife was fun. Jumping across the map and throwing shit. Cleaving enemies in half with huge weapons. Then fucking her afterwards. Was fun.
>>719463746>meet gale>high five him>spend the rest of my playthrough talking to animals and stealing panties>never progress past act 1best game
>>719469295>recruit mercenaries.So they've written personalities and character arcs for mercenaries too? That's quite impressive.
>>719469319Also, Barbarian is the only class that can make a goblin literally eat shit. It's fun.
>>719466828This is like boomers claiming that classic WoW was hard. Demogorgon doesn't even last half a minute against a proper party on normal difficulty.
>>719466828>especially 1Ah yes, the legendary difficulty of having to use three (3) different spells, fireball wands, bows, and boots of speed to win every encounter
>>719469642>normal difficultyI agree vanilla BG2 is easy to cheese if u know AD&D rules but playing on normal not even core and using it as a flex is a new low.
>>719469761It's not a flex and I didn't mention any cheese, retardo. It's the boomer above who wanted to flex.
>>719466446And stats say so. Less than 10% of players played an Origin character.
>>719469971>Less than 10% of players played an Origin character.I'd best most of those were just Dark Durge as well.
>>719469971is there any benefit to playing as one of the characters?
>>719469971>94% of players created a custom character>and yet the game is all focused on the origin charactersI think Larian's games are fun. But their obsession with their OCs has always been one of the weakest things about their games ever since they started doing the origin shit.
>>719470416Extra dialogue options pertaining to their story.
That's no problem. This trend of dick sucking the protagonist and pampering the player has been a disgrace in video games.Your wizard has a totally different weight and importance to the story that Gale can't usurp regardless of his status as a better spellcaster in lore. That's cool, that's fine. Not everyone needs to be Aragorn but can still be very important and help the group.
>>719470526I think they just realized it doesn't require much effort and looks like this MASSIVE thing you're letting the players have access to.
You guys convinced me to replay as Durge.How is necromancy in this game?Is it more fun than a regular fireball sorcerer?
>>719470416you get some cutscenes and I thing faggot ass gayle gets some unique buff>>719470181I think durge counts as a custom and not an origin
>>719470649yeah it's weird people seethe about gale >because he's more importantwhen in mass effect if you played as a biotic you were only more powerful than jacob and kaiden and maybe miranda in story. Like Jack and Samara and arguably Liara were all way better biotics than you
>>719470707You can only play a necromancer as a spore druid. I personally don't care for minions so I won't speak for the fun factor.
>>719470901>>719470821Clerics and Wizards both have access to animate the dead
>>719470821Mass effect doesn't have any class reactivity. Mechanically Shep is by far the strongest biotic, the story just assumes he's a soldier.
>>719470901Wizards have a necromancy subclass. Not sure how good it is, though
>>719471242It isn't great, and the Spore Druid has access to spore zombies which make it feel more like a minion master than the actual necromancer does.
>>719470668I actually forgot they did it in DOS2, too. Kind of forgot that game altogether for some reason.
to new players it looks like durge is something for later playthroughs and you should just go with a tav at first
>>719471205there's a one off like in ME1. In ME3 Liara might have a faster singularity than shep
>>719471483All i remember about the DOS games is that magic was fun to mess around with.
>>719470707If you want a cool minion class that synergises well with durge story, play a shadow sorcerer.>gets a shadow dog that can place elemental omens on people>omens restore your sorcery points if you hit the correct element from any source>dog can also use an aoe attack that binds enemies, making them essentially helpless>if the dog gets hit, it splinters into another dog, the cloned dog can splinter into more dogs, together with a good aoe support like life cleric Shadowheart these dogs can completely replace the need in tanks>dogs can also teleport to any enemy you attack>if this wasn't enough, you get ability to see in magical darkness as well as a way to teleport in any shadows in an insanely enormous range
>>719471510This
>>719471510Thats what every place outside of 4chan says
>>719471510Problem is people see the Durge as "I'll get to see more of the game", but that's stupid way of looking to it because you will STILL miss a lot. You cannot get 100% of BG3 in a single playthrough.
Is it worth doing a Tav playthrough if I've already done DUrge?
i thought this game was woke? why does v keep shilling it?
>>719471876because v likes gay sex with bears
>>719471510idk I think playing Durge your first time around gives you a much better start in the game's weakest act
>>719465146>and they ruined ton of time and development splitting the PC into Tav and Durge.Tav has 0 unique dialogues or interactions and you can play as Origins characters so the checks for the Durge were already necessary. Outside of the character creation screen, not a single line of code was needed for Tav.
>>719463746>Be tav>Literally son of Baal >I'm the side character You are retard not a side character
>>719472094>tavTav is a nobody. Durge is the main character.
>>719471510You get a better story by far.
>>719471510That's absolutely false. The game was written with Durge in mind. The story doesn't function nearly as well for some random nobody. You're literally THE cause of everything that happens in the game and it's up to you to either unfuck it or finish it.
Tav was only put in the game so landwhales could import their 5e purple haired tiefling warlocks without feeling bad
>>719471783Nigger how does "you still miss a lot" translates to "you should play the character that gets the least content"Like it's raining money and you can't get all the money so you shouldn't get a dump truck to get as much money as possible?
>>719472036i got a lot of unique dialogue options replaying game as basic bitch Tav but Bard this time. imagine other classes get the same so what you say its not exactly true
>>719472315All your unique options come from bard and not tav, dingus. Durge gets them too.
>>719472315These are class specific dialogues that you get with any origin, not Tav specific dialogues. So what I said is exactly true.
>>719472258READ>to new players it looks likeThe Dark Urge is some obscure option in the character creation. Most people will go with the custom character (Tav) to self insert missing the most important piece of the story.
>>719463746I left his ass back in camp with frog, Wyll and everyone else. The only other magical user aside from me was Shart because of her spirit shit.
>>719472449>Most people will go with the custom character (Tav)to produce a proper waifu, and immedaitely undress her and jerk off. also why are pube colors so hard to adjust? did they fix that?
I've only started playing BG3 on its full release, every second companion is a dysfunctional cocksucker who would've been killed at the age of 12 had they done any of this shit to someone not interested in their character arc, and they all want to kill either me or each other, every first NPC goes HNGGHHH AHHHH FUCKING CUNT TAKING MY TIME OFF WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT or OI WE GOT A *list of fantasy racial slurs* ON THE PREMISES WE DON'T TAKE TO YOUR KIND LIGHTLY IN THESE LANDS WE WHOOP YOUR ASS IN THESE LANDS BUT YOU MAY PASS every time you speak to them to the point i'm looking to the genocide run i'm gonna do as the second playthrough more than my actual playthrough. Even playing Arcanum as a half-ogre was nowhere as annoying as this shit. You're telling me it was actually worse in EA?
>>719464585>t. Cockroach attention span subhuman
>>719466323We get it, you're an autist. The reason people don't play as Durge is because he is too pre-determined and boring.
>>719472502>OI WE GOT A *list of fantasy racial slurs* ON THE PREMISES WE DON'T TAKE TO YOUR KIND LIGHTLY IN THESE LANDS WE WHOOP YOUR ASS IN THESE LANDS BUT YOU MAY PASSThis is based however
>>719463746That's why you should have either played Dark Urge or Gale.If you're planning on playing a class covered by one of the Origins you'd may as well just play them instead.
>>719472483You can do that with a dark urge waifu. + she gets bonus goth points
>>719472782get a life faggot, normal people dont enjoy wasting time watching 15 gnolls move in their turn
>>719472954>You can do that with a dark urge waifuIm not a fucking scaley, dude. I make nightelves. But the pubes are so hard to do properly, might need mods.
>>719473016You're aware you can customize the Dark Urge, right? You can change its race as well. Only its background is locked
>>719469295>recruit mercenaries
>>719472502>dysfunctional cocksucker who would've been killed at the age of 12 had they done any of this shit to someone not interested in their character arcThis is my exact description of the characters in div os2, especially the faggot lizard and cannibal elf
How is Shadowheart as the origin character?
>>719469971>turned into a sentient wheel of cheeseuwot?
>>719463746So realistically, where do I go to next if I liked BG3? Pathfinder? Pillars of Eternity? Something else?
>>719473136zestier than wyll's dance scene
>>719473094I actually didnt, I kept getting the lizard. But how does that change pube customization?
>>719473202Dragon Age Origins probably.
>>719473016>gooner tav is a brainletkek, every time>>719469971Hopefully this will finally make them drop their origin system in their games. Shit sucked in dos 2 too, even more so than in bg3
>>719473202Dragon Age Origins and Origins only, or the classic BG1 + 2 just to see the striking difference in writing quality.
>>719473202>Dragon Age only the first one>Anything Owlcat>BG1/2>Planescape Torment>Shadowrun games>Mass effectYou got plenty of choices, da series being the closest since its the only one that reaches that graphical fidelity
>>719473289>the pubes are hard to do properly>you are a brainletI want you to know I have 128 IQ and fucked over 30 women, but I still cant get the pubes of my tav in my early pirated version. But please elaborate, with your superior brain functions we can maybe get it to work!
>>719473256That doesn't, there is no mod to color pubes to my knowledge but there is this which is better than nothing I guess https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/3847
>>719473384I was making fun of you for not realizing that you can customize dark urge the same way as generic tav. Dont know about pube options, i only selfinsert as my own gender, you're on your own there lad
I wish Larian would stop tinkering with turn-based RPGs and make the chad sequel to Dragon Knight saga
>>719473202Real question is what PART of BG3 did you enjoy the most? Pathfinder games get recommend because they're isometric CRPGs, but they might as well be polar opposites to BG3.
>>719469295Withers should have been bringing back the characters from the previous games instead of them shitting them up in the story.
>>719473464>I was making fun of you for not realizing that you can customize dark urge the same way as generic tavWas this really in the game from the beginning? I played within weeks of release.>Haha, you try to color the pubes in a character creation screen that lets you undress and choose between 5 sets of genitalia, you are a coomeri dunno man at least I just made a pretty nightelf with blue pubes, pretty mild on the degen scale.
>>719473202dos2pathfinder wotr
>>719473620It was right there from the start. Larian really fucked up with their marketing and UI design for Dark Urge. No one wants to play a scalie
>>719469971So? How many players are playing gnomes, halflings and dwarfs? Most players don’t play cleric either but I wouldn’t want clerics removed. Bizarre how neo-/v/ spreads this sentiment. Old /v/ raged against the idea that all content should be accessible to everyone at all times.
>>719473782Did a little research and it seems you are correct. It was a bit differently accessed than on Custom Chars but the Choice was there. I was too busy looking at Nelfussy to notice.
>>719473849Its a shit system, its should be removed. No one wants to be a side character in their own rpg, anyone picking up generic tav got fucked up. Bioware already got it right 16 years ago with their origin system, why the fuck are we still ignoring it?
>>719474067I am just pissed the game railroaded me too much. I expected a true RPG, and while elements are there, its too railroaded. I wanted to play a sexually deviant druid that is a menace in Baldurs Gate, not, i dunno, slay goblins.
>>719463746Counterpoint;He's a manlet and you can be a 6'6 Elven gigachad I find myself giggling at any scene between him and my tav because I tower over him like a man over a child.
>>719466492what a peak contrarian thing to say, probably the no.1 reason BG3 was so successful is because everything was voiced
>>719474067You’re literally not a side character, you’re the main character no matter who you play. All playing an origin character does is give you some extra scenes (which playing Durge also does). People like you are the cancer killing RPGs.
>>719474148>I wanted to do LITERALLY ANYTHING and have it fully voice-actedI'm not saying the game is perfect but it's hard to take these criticisms seriously.
>>719473289in DoS2 it seem like they at least designed it right with the idea it's side stories for the MC to deal with to be retroactively turn into Origins, in BG3 it feels like they tagged it all on well after designing the main Tav/Urge story.
>>719463746I ate his arm
>>719474148>I am just pissed the game railroaded me too much.This was my issue with Durge. He felt to railroaded and if you didn't play evil like they wanted you too, you may as well have played as someone else.>>719474197>everything
>>719474161It's so funny that this is one of a few games that legit turned elves into avatars of physical perfection
>>719473180All Origin characters outside of Durge kinda suck because the game generally strong away so much of their character and you end up with what is essentially a slightly Fancier Tav. Although Shadowheart and Wyll are probably the better ones to play because they fulfill the RP feeling of having a deity and Patron respectively.
>>719463746>boo freaking hoo, i need to be the main character and i need to be the center of attention all the timedeal with it faggot. you are not the main character and you will never have an ideal anime-like life because you were dealt a shitty hand when you were born and honestly it's as shrimple as that, it's all about luck and yes i am projecting my regrets in life into you right now and no i'm not gonna use punctuation because fuck you and fuck me too and fuck /v/ and fuck my neighbor's puppy who is leashed and crying all the
>>719463746Yeah I had to restart my first run because I was a wizard gnome and Gale was making me look bad
>>719474242not the same guy talking about voice acting, I am the coomer. >>719474315I meant in general. I expected more openworldness. Yes, there was stuff to do in the druid village and secrets and panties to steal and all that. But the story continued when I just wanted to check out a new area. It was obviously centered around my acitons, and not presenting a somewhat beleivable world.
>>719474197Nice reading comprehension
>>719464091>>719468495The problem is unless you read about it beforehand you have to hope you didn’t pick the 1/3rd of characters where playing as them ruins the story.I played as the skeleton in DOS2 and missed his entire deal since it meant he wasn’t voiced and had no personality.And I’m way too old to replay an entire 60-100 hour game because I “picked wrong”.For their next game I’m just going to ask some community forum to tell me which to play as to try to minimize spoilers.
>>719474315>He felt to railroaded and if you didn't play evil like they wanted you tooWhat? Durge's writing is way better when you resist [most of] the impulses. It's like roleplaying a recovering drug addiction except with murder instead of Meth.
>>719465146>>719465654Yeah it was genuinely a poor choice. Zero backstory characters are really boring, and resist durge takes up like, maybe an hour of mild discomfort total, and doesn’t event affect the ending.
I hate how most of these characters are obviously the self inserts of the writers.
>>719466154Sir your minthota?
>>719466412I think Daisy was still always the emperor, they were just going to add a really weird rape by deception angle to it originally but it weirded people out. I can’t think of anything else she could have been.They did wyll really dirty.
>>719465836Durge wasn't in EA at all.
>>719466843Wait really? Not DOS3???
>>719463746>save dude from portal trap>Go back to camp >Start going through his dialogue options>Ask about his pastGale: you know I'm a mighty fine dick sucker, want me to suck your dick?!Really disappointing after buying the game in very early access. I never did finish it and honestly it got boring pretty quick. Overrated trash game that's more an hbo series than a game.
>>719469319Romancing Karlach after doing the bug where she’s decapitated for the whole game gave me a weird fetish.
>>719463746Make a Sorc instead.
>>719474958They're developing 2 games at once, one is "sci fi" but no other description. I'm curious to see if they'll even be turn based or if Larion will try some RTS stuff again.
>>719469971I did like six playthroughs and only finally did an origin run the last time. And it was dumb. Just made the character silent and made the narrator tell-don’t-show random chunks of backstory.
>>719474920Tav was Durge, which is why they had violent tendencies towards Daisy in their dreams and why the final dream was Daisy showing the destruction of Baldur’s Gate
>>719475024So you don't want your dick sucked?
>>719470668Dos3 when
>>719466323>why do people make generic tavsBecause I want to make a white human male fighter or barb and skip all dialogue I can while cracking skulls, simple as.
>>719475176Next, I hope.
>>719463746>coolerHe was a redditor constantly talking about muh alcohol collection and other faggy shit
>>719466323Remember Dark Durge wasn't there at release. And most people thought it was probably a new character or something at first.
>>719470526I like the OCs I just think they lose way too much personality when playing as them, which kind of ruins them. I'd be fine with more limited dialogue options if those options had more of their character shining through.
>>719466603I will never forgive them for ruining Daisy.
>>719474883Daisy was just your (netherise modified) tadpole. That’s what the main song down by the river is about, leaving your body for the ilithid and giving your soul over to your dreamfu. I don’t think Larian understood what a mindflayer actually is, you don’t become the mindflayer, it ears you from the inside out and another creature takes your place
>>719475272Like fucking a Goddess
>>719473202DOS2 is literally “what if BG3 without the visual novel closeups”. Like it is 95% the same game.Anyone recommending owlslop is a liar.
The sex scenes in this game were really fucking overrated after all the hype from Larian.Nothing as sex as this from Andromeda of all games: https://youtu.be/kd9_ovRUG8I?si=7igEA0HfC6My0iOa
>>719473487I like turn based. I don’t have the reaction time for twitchy games. Elden Ring was a miserable slog.
>>719475345God forbid they do something interesting with the idea of having your body and soul destroyed by a psychic parasite instead of adhering to my flawless DnD lore.
>>719474920the main player character "tav" was durge in the EA. they only made launch tav after the EA because EA trannies seethed about how EA Tav, who was durge, would sperg out and start choking daisy and shit. Durge was always intended to be the 7th character with lae'zel, shart, gayle, fag vamp, black faggot and Karlach and tav was just added at the last minute and that's why tav has zero connection to anything
>>719474425Honestly I wish more games let me sideline as the support of the other heroes. I always like being the minions grunts in things and I think they get the better outfit style wise.
>>719475193Don't let the trannies shame you, bro. Only 15% played Durge, and half that played a pre-made. Basically the percentage of queers in society.
>>719475369Nah, BG3 at least has some semblance of writing. DoS2 is a pack of clowns going did that just happen in a grimdark settingcombat is better in dos2 though
>>719475274Durge was there the whole time. even during the EA. they just created tav for the launch and then renamed EA tav durge and gave him that gay ass dragonborn default design
>>719473202Do not touch anything Owlcat. It's phenomenally overated garbage built for autists. The only fun part of thise games is the character creation.Rogue trader was alright if you like 40k tho
>>719475373Cora's ass kept me playing this game.
>>719475160By the evil elf. Don't even get me started on HalsinGate and shart that was the greatest offense. Cuck fantasy nigger director should be tarred and feathered.
>>719475345That was never confirmed. I’m 99% sure it was just the emperor was going to be more rapey originally. You don’t make up that big of a character that late.
Which one has more reactivity for an evil playthrough, male drow or male furry?
>>719475373minthara straight up has a porn scene that shows full penetration >>719475625I never finished it. I didn't really care for the companions and the open world sloppa and bullet sponge enemies just sucked too fucking much.ME1 wasn't nearly as bad with the bullet sponge shit and you could cheese most open world encounters with the mako
>>719475373If it’s able to be hosted on YouTube it isn’t a sex scene
>>719475472>do something interesting with the ideayeah like having a gay sex with mindflayer, truly groundbreaking stuff here
>>719475518why the fuck would someone play as premade furry durge?
>>719475472>make a DnD game>ignore DnD lore
>>719475683If you play as a Gith or a Duergar, you get more chances to be racist.
>>719474883>They did wyll really dirty.yes they fucking didIn EA >He was this guy that always screwed up and couldn't save anybody, shaming his family>Makes a deal with a demon to become the hero he always wanted to be>Price for said hero status was getting to high for him to handle (child sacrifices) and wants to get out of the contract >It's obvious his story is going to be can he become a hero without the devil or would he be better of being monster in the shadows at the price of at least appearing useful to his family In the release>He is just awesome anyway and was always a hero>He got stuck in the Demon's pack because he needed to 1 vs 1000 cultist trying to destroy the city>But somehow still negotiated really good terms that make it hard for him to do any really evil stuffFuck Swen.
>>719475532Yes that’s the 5%
>>719475810Man fuck being a frog, but a spiteful manlet might not be bad
>>719463746So dont be a pussy and kill him
>>719475801They all but did in the full release anyway.
>>719475801>implying thats the wrong way to make a dnd game
>>719475590What they should have done was just made Tav the customized version of Durge. Dragonfag could have just been the premade version for people who don't care about CC or know the game well enough to do so.
>>719466412Imagine being such a disingenuous spiteful zoomer faggot that you need to just blatantly lie about a group of people who played classic games you're too incompetent and homosexual to enjoy yourself
>>719475714>minthara straight up has a porn scene that shows full penetrationSince when can two females "penetrate" each other, clown
>>719463746Gale is ME literally. Why picking gay ass TAV if you are HIM, just play as Gale the wizard
>>719475930Which is why the characters and story is shit.>>719476012It is, asshat.
>>719474883>>719475838>>719466412I think some or all of the wyll being a gay faggot shit is because hasbro didn't want >muh morally compromised minorotyOne thing that's semi related is the guy who wrote jacob in mass effect also wrote grunt, so like he could write based characters, he just intentionally made jacob a faggot
>>719475532This might shock some people but writing and story don't have to be the most important things in an RPG.
>>719475838That would have made him interesting. It could also have shown why you never make a deal with the devil.
>>719475532tried to play DOS2 after BG3 but i couldnt get it because of the dialogue and silly vibe of the game, BG3 isnt exactly great in that aspect either but still 10x better.
>>719476054why are you playing as a tranny, tranny?>>719476026they could have just left it as Tav, but had the durges tags associated with it and not had a separate durge origin like they did in the EA. IMO durge is better to play as because he has amnesia where as it's weird to play as tav unless you are familiar with dnd lore and stuff.
>>719476252I like both for different reasons. DoS2 felt like playing with friends at a table top session, warts and all.
>>719463746>wizard TavJust dip 1 level into wizard and throw the rest into cleric.
>>719476102>asshatFaggot low impact insult
>>719475838Don't forget he liked torturing goblins and was thirsty for the Mizora pussy, I think he may have actually been in love with Mizora
Real question is, why the fuck would anyone play a wizard instead of a Sorcerer?
>>719476386straight dudes don't play sorcs
>>719476386Because they, in their minds, think studying will somehow make them stronger than Chad and they identify with Wizards (even though Wizards are actually supposed to be intelligent and genetically gifted, not just nerd losers).
>>719476386On paper 5e sorcs suck ass compared to wizards. BG3 sidesteps it by giving you infinite rests and enough itemization to fill the gaps in your spell list.
>>719466858Whoever complained about goblins being strong did not play Baldurs Gate 1 because even kobolds could fuck you up if you're not careful in that game.
>>719476386>>719476485only trannies play cha casters
>>719476386The steady erosion of the Intelligence stat in dungeons and dragons has been a disaster for modern society. And it all lays solely on the shoulders of sorc and warlockfags.
>>719476268Except that not everyone wants to play as a pre-created character with no customization.
>>719476252Divinity games are just very silly.
OK, I finally finished my full playthrough of BG trilogy just yesterday. I can finally check out 3 when I recover from so much D&D.Any recommendations on character creation?Reading the thread, everybody says you have to pick Dark Urge prebuilt character. This seems a bit weird, don't you usually want a custom character in this kind of game?
>>719476386Sorcerer is perfect for durge too. They even picked the strongest sorc subclass for the "default" durge and you can feel his power starting with level 1 where he just gets bonus flight out of ass.
>>719476380>Don't forget he liked torturing goblins To be fair in EA that was because that's how he lost his eye was their raided a village he was guarding, killed several kids in front of him using their limbs "like toy swords", and the one in the temple that was using the rack on the merc was the one that busted out his eye with his own mace. It's somewhat a wonder he didn't go psycho anytime he saw a goblin. >I think he may have actually been in love with MizoraThe way he described her rising out of the fire when he was dying certainly made it seem like he admired her at the very least.
>>719466154Likeable characters don't bode well with the modern audiences.
>>719463746Of all the origin characters Gale definitely outclasses a Tav of his class entirely. I would say hes by far the best Origin character to play as as well. Everyone elses class is less a central to their character outside of him and Wyll. In Warlocks case anything other than Archfiend patrons dont feel redunant
>>719476540again, EA-Tav/Durge before the split was like current Durge where you could pick your race, face, class and in EA background. Durge also hasn't always been durge. there's dialogue if you play as a paladin where the oath breaker says you have an oath from before you went full durge.Whenever durge decided to become an asshole it was super recent, like within the last decade considering Karlach doesn't know him
>>719476386Charisma feels too broken in BG3.I like playing a socially awkward wizard because it forces me to come up with alternate solutions to quest problems instead of just "pick the one dialogue option where you win and everyone loves you and you get all the gold and the bitches with zero effort"Failing speech checks and having to figure out another way to get what you want is often more interesting and fun.
>>719466154This is why I'm happy I had friends to co-op with. Took much longer to finish the game but at least we had each others company and memories as opposed to the awful story. Vampire and Frog were the only two that had story beats that didn't feel like a slog to get through. Took a lot of effort not to ditch the other five.
>>719476386Don't know. Playing as CHA caster lets to be the face of the group as well. Even better if you double as a Bardchad.>>719476524Too be fair, that was mainly because of you having so few people in the party. Getting fucked by kobolds once you have a team is just sad.>>719476583Which is why he should have just been one of the premade characters for those who don't know the game rules.>>719476706>EA-Tav/Durge before the split was like current Durge where you could pick your race, face, class and in EA background.Which is how I said it should be. The current durge would only be for those who don't want to pick their own shit. Being an asshole should have been a choice for how your character is like it was in BG1-2.
>>719466154bg2
>>719476715Wizard's dialogue options are better and stronger than CHA. You get a huge bonus to all int related checks and they come up in dialogues A LOT, you can mind read or use insight.
Funny the most Qurik Chungus Reddit character in the whole game was a BG1/2 original in the person of Minsc. Literally a walking Reddit machine, this is what boomers liked?
>>719476715Honestly a low CHA Psycho Durge is a lot of fun for how much the game planned for it.
>>719476715So play one. Wizards are Intelligence based, Sorcerers are the Charisma beasts.
>>719476578Durge isn't prebuilt. there is a default durge which is a tranny ass furry with tranny ass sorcerer as the class, but when you play as durge you have full access to the character creator, the only think you can't pick for yourself is background and the 2 skills that come with background which is kind of whatever considering half of the origins have backgrounds and skills that don't match their established lore anyway Like Karlach is an outlander even though she should be a soldier or an urchin >>719476583cha casters are tranny classes
>>719476715I liked playing as a CHAchad who had to use the other characters whenever he couldn't talk things out, which actually happened more than you would think. The only thing that saved me from being all bark was the decent enough INT that allowed me to sperg over some choices as well.
>>719476909>you can mind read or use insight.Oh shit, they did it again. I remember that was huge feature in Divinity 2.
>>719476881>Playing as CHA castertranny>Which is how I said it should be. The current durge would only be for those who don't want to pick their own shit. Being an asshole should have been a choice for how your character is like it was in BG1-2.that's how durge currently works. there's literally only one unavoidable durge moment in the game
>>719476910>this is what boomers liked?No. Most people tossed his ass aside for Chadwin.>>719476986Too be fair to him, customizing you durge is after you start the game, so it is completely non-canon to him.
>>719477098Except it isn't how it works, jackass.>trannyAs well as a shitposter.
>make sorcerer tav>make my party full of girls with slutty outfitsyup, it's gaming time
>>719476994>CHAchadcha casters are always trannies, no exceptions>>719477124>Too be fair to him, customizing you durge is after you start the game, so it is completely non-canon to him.it literally happens in the same screen you customize tav. there is no difference between tav and durge when it comes to customization in the begining of the game. the only option you lose, as durge, is you don't get to pick your background
>>719475518I gave my character 8 int/wisdom/charisma and maxed out everything else so I can kill shit betterThere was some weird psychic corpse in the prologue and I realized everything was attackable so I skipped its dialogue and killed it, game is fun so far
>>719477181it is how it works you fucking retarded tranny. play the game
>>719475714>minthara straight up has a porn scene that shows full penetrationwhere what?
>>719477206
Fuck now I want to replay dos2 really badly
>>719465836Not quite, all companions were more evil in early access because they wanted to see how evil they could get. Wyll was a liar and a cheat and the Blade of Frontiers wasn't actually a hero, it was a myth he made up about himself and Mizora was a succubus exploiting his ego, Gale was more morally grey, Shadowheart was actually willing to go more evil. Only Lae'Zel and Astarion made it to release unscathed. Tav had intrusive thoughts, but stuff like kicking the squirrel was entirely optional. Essentially there was no mandatory Durge stuff in EA, it was all optional and choices, they just ripped those choices out of Tav and put them into the Durge as mandatory. Also the Tadpole plotline got entirely rewritten between EA and release, I miss Daisy trying to seduce you and people "accidently" making men because "it asked who you dream about at night, how was I supposed to know it was a sex thing?!"
>>719475683Drow reactivity is mostly only in Act 1 and is pretty much "LOOK IT'S AN UNDERNIGGER oh wait he saved the town, this one is cool" a few times and not needing to pass a persuasion/tadpole check to get access to Blighted Village. Pretty disappointing overall.
>>719477269
I've been out of CRPGs for a while, but you're telling me they look like this now?
>>719477283gotta kill all the trannylings in the grove>>719477381it isn't, try playing the game, tranny
>>719477337yeah, because EA tav was durge
>>719477394In the close up visual novel minigame part, and only this one game looks like this. Rest still look like shit and are 90% unvoiced
>>719477489I prefer EA Tav as a Bhaal spawn, that has to make the choice to be more evil, as opposed to a super special one of a kind Bhaalkin that can't resist and everyone tells you how great and strong you are.
>>719471876>>719471876Just download the no homo mod and the couple of mods that removes the blacks. There's one to remove generic black NPCs, one to make wyll white (and his dad obviously), one to change the black talking NPCs to white as well.It really helps with the DND roleplay
Has anyone done a full evil playthrough as Origin Wyll? Kill Karlach, raze the grove, etc.
>>719477627The mods that remove the faggotry and most of the jarring diversity are genuine improvements to the game. Getting to the druid grove for the first time and seeing every race under the sun there immediately took me out of the game. Or stuff like the angel being in a gay relationship with that guy's daughter. I quite liked the first scene with the angel, as we help her escape the prison. But then we meet them together, and they're both start talking about how much they want to fuck, completely contradicting the mood of the first scene; it was almost depressing. Like, not a single character could exist within this game without being turned into some kind of sexual degenerate or a joke. Not that them being perverts is much better when the angel is turned male, but outside of the first scene it makes every scene a lot less jarring. Also, these AI voices are impressive, man.
>>719476910You don't understand the context of how he was created.Do you know how many companions were there in BG1?25.There are 25 companions in original BG1. Obviously, they couldn't write a detailed characterization for all 25 of them, so it was more like they were throwing shit at a wall and letting people pick what they wanted. The companions in the game are mostly pretty basic and don't talk much. They each have their own quest and some conflicts with other characters and a basic personality, but most of their characterization was honestly in the barks they get when you click on them.When you think of Minsc as one of 25 different companions who are probably meant to die due to mistakes and then you pick up somebody else, he makes more sense.I think also Minsc was actually taken from a tabletop game designers played, as were many of the companions.After that, he made it into BG2 because he was popular with players, and that's when most characters started actually chatting with you regularly and getting detailed quests and banters and whatnot. But by that point they knew he was popular, so it made sense they focused on Minsc to a degree. And to be fair, his companion quest was cut anyway where most other such quests didn't....Also, apparently original BG2 had 16 companions, and THOSE all had full characterization, so that contradicts my earlier point. Holy fuck, Bioware of that time was insane.
>>719476715I really hate the fact that the game doesnt use stats from your party members during checks. I really hope someone mods that shit in at some point
why did she taste so bad?
Actually i think things i personally have no intrest in should not exist and other people shoukd only act like i want them to!Hurr durrr, i am /v/ and i'm a massive fucking autist.
>>719477919>>719477627imagine being such a chud that it makes you enjoy a game less
>>719478404Go back to the kitchen foid, man are talking
>>719470181Durge is custom character. 15% of created characters were Durge
>>719478342Nigger genes
>>719463746Yes he's based and has no sense of right or wrong. A proper wizard.
>>719463746Wizards are cucks with no charisma. Play sorcerer.
>>719478342aids
>>719466323Most people fell for the fake news of "if you play durge you'll kill literally every npc you come across" meanwhile in-game you're only forced to kill Alfira (or the dragon girl) and have to pass only two skill checks, Gale's recruitment and potentially killing your romance option, that's it
>>719469269Good Durge is a more fun dynamic.
>>719477919>Getting to the druid grove for the first time and seeing every race under the sun there immediately took me out of the gameBecause you are a jackass that doesn't know the lore. It also makes sense with how Halsin is.
>>719478342Lolth doesn't taste very good.
>>719479391>forced to kill AlfiraWas that the bard in the grove?
>>719476386Sculpt Spells
>>719478342I have Drow jungle fever
>>719479890Yes, the one everyone wanted as a bard companion so Larian added her as a temporary one (right before you murder her)
>>719480101It's funny that there was more demand for Minartha and Halsin (which is why they are full companions, people were begging for them in EA) but I think if people got to choose today they'd probably choose Alfria ahead of Halsin and possibly Minartha.
>>719478270someone said in another thread the mods are all slow because larian didn't provide any documentation for anything and they keep fucking with the game and shitting up the mod tools and to do anything you need a plug in one tranny updates like 6 months after each update>>719478110I wish bg3 had like 25 companions or even 16 and permadeath
>>719478489tranny
>>719479391>Gale's recruitmentgale's recruitment is a choice. the only skill check for gale's recruitment is the same one everyone else has to pass
thank goodness Larian didn't actually play BG2 otherwise I'd hate to see what they'd do to Aerie
>>719480290Minthara got robbed. She was meant to have a pregnancy (with mc) arc. I guess they scrapped it because they couldn't figure out how to have two separate romances for her (one with preggo, one without) if you played as a girl or a dickless eunuch or whatever. Or they would have gone with Schrödinger's pregnancy and it would have been yours unless it was verifiably not yours, or you were always fated to be a cuck. Seems complicated. Not hard to see why it was removed. Still, Minthara was robbed!
>>719473003Normalfags have no problem with the combat in this game. Read all of the user reviews talking about how much they enjoy it. Even ADHD addled zoomers have more patience than you do.>normal people dont enjoy wasting time watching 15 gnolls move in their turnThey usually perform their move action all at once, though.
>>719480601She's one of the most annoying characters in that game. Larian would have improved her.
>>719475457Dragon Knight saga was an action RPG, it was more about planning your skills and strategy for the fights, wasn't super fast paced
>>719480881Why are you pretending like you played BG2 larianigger?
>>719477418>gotta kill all the trannylings in the grove>muh fingeringI was promised a porn scene with full penetration.Why is even the coomcontent for this game so shit. Like the romance scenes have potential, just show me some more and model some labia minoris and we gucci. i dont need EXTREMEFUTAINFLATION
>104 hours into act 1, still got @ least 10-15 more to go>act 3 is apparently the largest = act1 + 2it's gonna take me half a year to finish.. game is entertainment embodied so i'll keep trucking along, but it's mighty impressive what a massive world they made - granted 20% of the time was spent min-maxxing characters, redoing combat encounters, rerolling failed checks but that's still part of the game experience. i'm glad i waited till the final patch, because now it well & truly deserves game of the decade.
>>719479391The encounter with Alfira still really grinds my gears too, just because you are literally punished for not metagaming the fuck out of that encounter since you'll miss out on a cheevo, a small plotline, and one of the best cha caster chestpieces in the game in act 2 if you don't. And you have to metagame in a really stupid and unintuitive way you probably wouldn't be able to figure out on your own even with prior knowledge where it feels like you're just cheating.Except they actually accounted for this where she sends a unique letter to Durge in the epilogue.Except she describes the encounter completely differently from what actually happened and what you have to end up doing to avoid killing her, so this is in all likelyhood a remnant of even *more* act 1 shit that was butchered and left on the cutting room floor.
>>719480881Biotrannies thought Minsc was "epic", bro. They like annoying slop characters.
>>719481297>tries to use tranny as an insult when this game is filled with them>tries to shit on Minsc when the majority of Larian companions are just as le quippy and quirky as him
>>719481375Minsc is on an entirely different level. He's like Reddit Patient Zero for RPGs.
>>719481297you're ngmi trannoid
>>719481375>>tries to use tranny as an insult when this game is filled with themthere are 2 trannies in the whole game and both are evil and the game rewards you for killing them>>719481158I mean that's the point. the point of killing her is that she's likeable and you think she's joining only to get full whiplash
>>719476715Charisma and Wisdon should really be the same thing and persuasion/Intimidation/Performance shouldn't exist. Skills should be completely divorced from stats.
What is it about BG1&2 that causes Larianiggers to seethe incoherently? If they're such inferior games surely you wouldn't be so bothered about them?
>>719481075>MUH WINGS MUH WINGS MUH WINGS She sucks and her terrible romance seems like it was written by a permavirgin. Only demented waifufags defend her.
>>719481806Very sophisticated critical language you're using to pretend you played the game
>>719481136>104 hours into act 1, still got @ least 10-15 more to gonigger, what?
>>719481806>by a permavirginUh oh, you just insulted a gay man! Because she was written by one. Your fellow redditors are not going to like this
>>719481136ehhh Act 3 only takes a long time if you've done every quest to keep as many people alive as possible throughout the game.
>>719481850She's only worth taking just to hear Korgan make fun of her a few times and then she's permanently benched. Imagine being a 40+ year old dude fapping to a shitty romance written by a homosexual man.
>>719481884Haha! He called me Reddit! I clapped!
>>719480290It's a shame they made Halsin a sex pest because an actual respectable older mentor Druid character would be pretty cool, but I guess modern writers just have zero idea how a male role model is supposed to actually behave.
>>719481775In this case they're seething about Aerie because their romance options are all shit, even the "nicest" one is a whore that desperately wants to take cock after years without taking one, open for casual sex and is okay with getting cuckedAnd don't even get me started on Shadowcuck
>>719481996He's his writer's self insert, also why Shadowheart can't stop lusting after him
Why do Biotrannies have a melty over Larian using the BG1/2 characters in a way that WotC determined they should be used (as they, not Larian, chose the canon ending to BG) but not at all the BG1 companions who get off-screened (Khalid, Dynahair) or otherwise merked (like Ajantis, Safana, Tiax, and Xzar). One of your companions, Garrick, even gets NTRd. It feels really performative. IMO, it's people repeating what they hear on RPGcodex or something (the first neo/v/ wave was Codexcucks back in the day).
>>719482003Fucking the succubus and laughing at Wyll getting cucked is infinitely better than listening to Aerie whine about her wings for 20 hours.
>>719481926You're in shambles. She's one of the most powerful characters in the game and one of the best tanks. You don't know who Korgan is and just saw his name when you furiously googled who Aerie was.
>>719464091in larian games you always pick the lame characterin dos, dos2, and bg3, the strat is to pick the lamest PC character, that way you get side quests of the lameo, but you don't miss out on story and voice of the cool charactersfrom a story perspective its better to play as a custom character than as a cool characteractually, gale is perfect from this stand point as hes a lame character with decent sidequests.
>>719482128>succubus>cucking Wyll, when he hates herUtterly braindead post
>>719482110The BG1 companies who were worth a shit carried over to BG2 as the canon party or as funny NPCs like Xzar and Montarion.
>>719481996Literally was 100% because of the fans lusting over him.
>>719482056>Could of had a nice surrogate Father/Daughter thing going on as Shart develops a love for nature>Instead we got the relationship that triggered multiple turbo autists ti screech nonstop for a full year.Grim.
>>719482129She's shit. She doesn't do anything Anomen or Jaheira can't do better. And if I want a mage, I'm taking Edwin.
>>719482196Gay Bear sex was already in the gane before the "fans" went full retard and encouraged some if the worst rewrite ideas ever.
>>719480290>>719481996he's the writer's self insert, the writer tried to write him fucking every girl and you in the ass, but then the lae'zel and karlach writers told him to fuck off but he wrote shart (wow, that explains the whore bait and switch) so he kept that part in for her. also he was supposed to kill isobel and the voice actor loved that halsin killed isobel but the writer got rid of it because he wanted to add more sex pest shit
>>719482185t. Wyll
>>719464091I don't really agree. I just finished my first playthrough and I never really felt outshined by my companions at any point. Then again, maybe that's because I played a different class from them (paladin).
>>719482226the shart thing was egregious>oh I get it, Lae'zel is the jack stand in, Shadowheart must be the Liara/Tali>lol jk, she sucked 27 dicks and will cuck you
>>719481618I get that and I can appreciate the shock value on a first playthrough, although it only makes it all the more jarring that this is one of the only times where Durge flies off the handle without the player's consent, but I just wish there was some kind of better way of dodging it if you already know that its coming that doesn't involve randomly beating the fuck out of her unconscious and then making sure you don't long rest until you've crossed the bridge to the blighted village to trigger the story flag.Could have been a simple as just having a dialogue option for "No you don't get it lady, I think something is seriously fucked up with me. You should put as much distance between you and this camp as possible or I might end up involuntarily turning you into chunky salsa." since its unlikely that a player would turn her away on their first time anyway.Then again you basically get that same dialogue option with every fucking companion where it basically comes down as a cry for help and they just brush you off with "naaaaah its probably fine".
>>719482003But Aerie is also ready to have casual sex with Haer'Dalis, the bi-sexual manwhore. Not exactly waifu material. Like the other anon said, the game was written by gay men and is pretty degen behind the surface.
>>719482417tranny class>>719482528nah, forced durge stuff is based and there should have been more of it. meta gaming to avoid tragedy and conflict is gay and bg3 is 100% at it's best the first playthrough without spoilers.
>>719482526Lae'zel was funny because I remember way back when people first learned there would be a Githyanki girl companion a bunch of people were moaning she was going to a huge slut who will probably cuck the player constantly if there was a romance and it was going to be an Owlcat tier romance.
>>719482638Bro really is just googling shit lmao
>>719482129Oh, and just to totally beat you the fuck out, I'll post my character.
>>719482682People thought that because they literally advertised it that way
>>719466154If you don't like any of the characters available you simply uninstall the game.
>>719482815Oh yeah, they did mention that about the Gith specifically when they first introduced her didn't they? That's quite the about face.
>>719482703Projecting dipshit. I bet you don't actually have a BG2 save.
>>719472502why does every RPG party need to be a gaggle of freaks instead of your regular motley crew?
>>719483180BG1 started the trend of the "Chungus Crew", then people were negative about Icewind Dale because it didn't have real companions and NWN because you only got a henchman.
>>719482703Haer'Dalis doesn't even hide that he's a Doomguard, lol. It's the aids faction. And Aerie has 16 int.
>>719482682>>719482815>>719482912lmao what? they advertised lae'zel as being a whore?
>>719476715>instead of just "pick the one dialogue option where you win and everyone loves you and you get all the gold and the bitches with zero effort"Oh, like real life CHA people?
>>719483869VG247: Okay. And you can romance all the companions?Adam Smith: Yes. They can all romance each other, yes.VG247: And obviously that has an effect on the group dynamic and the conversations between characters?Adam Smith: Yes. So I think I can safely give you an example. We haven’t talked about it yet. But it’s one of those things that if you actually do any research... So, Liselle, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy. So if you sleep with Liselle one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’ And you’re just like, ‘oh!’ Heartbroken!Of course it the end they didn't do shit and the only "romances" between companion are mostly with the sex pest Halsin and only if you consent to it
>>719483963Why is it so hard for you to believe that people liked this game?
>>719463746i never even found this character in my BG3 playthrough
>>719483180In Bg3 only Lae'zel and Karlach are really freaks. Gale is very over the top in regards to how important he was before getting Mind fucked but he's otherwise a pretty standard wizard character. What's funny is that Lae'zel, who is visually the biggest freak, avoids a lot of the games narrative faux pas. Humorously, most of the characters fall into a widely derided trope of giving your characters too much backstory at level 1. They're almost all 30-40 Somethings who have extensive adventuring resumes as opposed to being relatively young and inexperiend.For exampke there isn't any reason Shart shouldn't be much younger and inexperienced cultist and that her current mission is her first. Or that Karlach would be a relatively raw recruit into the Hell War before escaping instead of being described as one of Hells best warriors.
>>719484008I don't know what fucking game this guy was talking about because Lae'zel ends up being the most aggressively monogamous character in the whole group. She's very forward about wanting to fuck you, but she won't even touch you if you already slept with someone else and literally calls you used goods.
>>719469269Good Durge is more interesting. Also goes well with romances (particularly Asterion given how similar you are)
>>719484407This was from 2020, you have no idea what happened in those 3 years, especially considering how heavily rewritten the game was
>>719484210>All threads about it slide shortly after launchThis frequently happens on launch days because people excited about the gane will be playing it instead of posting on 4chan. So the only threads you'll get will be Doomer threads whining about a game they didn't like being popular and how it's actually totally a flop.I guarantee for the first few days after Silksong releases the majority of the threads you'll see about the game will be fags winging.
>>719472094Durge kills Tav
>>719484407Shadowheart was originally going to be the hyper Vanilla romance but her author insisted he get to insert his cuck content, so the studio had to finger another character to be the faithful love interest
>>719484008>>719484407when the game came out she would fuck faggot vamp at the party if you didn't romance either but for some reason they removed that and never readded it. though I think it's out of character for both or at least out of character for her. faggot vamp is obviously a faggot and he only has sex with a female pc for protection. Lae'zel is written to be in her late teens (all the girl's are older than the way they are written because larian is a bunch of fags, but lae'zel acts like a teenager) and was totally offering up her cloaca because she figured you would protect her and because you are the dominant one and fag vamp doesn't fit the bill of someone who would protect her or dominant.also who the fuck would want to romance lae'zel knowing she would cheat on you? lol. even fucking normies seethe over shart
She was supposed to be a romance option.
>>719484029he and his cousins worked as h1b hires on todd's slop, which came out around the same time and got mogged hard
>>719484210You sound incredibly autistic. It's a known sign that autistic people have a hard time understanding the fact that their own personal experiences and opinions don't represent that of other people.
>>719484414Good guy Durge pairs pretty well with Shart too, depending on which way you swing I suppose. They've got a lot in common being two amnesic lobotomites estranged from a murderous death-cult to one of the shittiest gods on the planet.
>>719484796>My confirmation bias is real, thus you are autisticYou're never making fetch happen, Chang
>>719484812Narratively ShartxDurge works much better than TavxShart. Sharts past definitely should have been more focused on "my cult made me do horrible things but I'm definitely not coping about it" instead of her talking about them like it was some sort of fucked up polycule of fags.
>>719484887>guy running entirely on confirmation bias accuses others of confirmation bias
>>719484812Pretty much. I guess you could say Karlach works too due to her wanting to get away from Zariel. Also arguably leads to one of the best outcomes for a Durge who still enjoys killing but wants to free himself from his hyper edgy dad.
>>719484887>YouTube comment section
>>719484273>For exampke there isn't any reason Shart shouldn't be much younger and inexperienced cultist and that her current mission is her first. Or that Karlach would be a relatively raw recruit into the Hell War before escaping instead of being described as one of Hells best warriors.Shart's is at least explained in the narrative, though it's done for the obvious shock and bait and switch factor because Lae'zel and shart are both written like teenagers and people would assume shart was like tali or liara so the >she's actually super old and a whorething was just libcuck subverting expectations. idk, I guess Karlach is to subvert expectations too. she's weak because the engine is getting shat up but on most normie websites people assume she's like 24 or 25 but hasbro has her age as 30 so they wanted to make her like as old as possible for some weird reason, even though she really isn't written as some 30 year old 10 year war vet >>719484414>romancing a manfaggot
>>719483180because normies are the target audience for this game and normies are freaks>be me>moved into the middle of bumfuck nowhere>GF's place of growing up so she actually knows a couple of people>the normiest normies to ever exist>ask them if they would be interested in D&D>they are>Session 0 all good>Session 1 literally every single one tries to fuck as many people as possible, including kidnapping and rape, they want me to explain more than just a fade to black "so you guys went to town the whole night">these people spend entire sessions just trying to build up the biggest whore empire of the known universenormies are freaks
>>719485052China owns a third of Larian and that always meant compromised bots and shills. It's a fact. You can't dispute it.
>>719472094Tav isn't the son of bhaal, durge is. tav is just some dude
>>719484619I feel like shart was always going to be a bait and switch considering her writer is a cocksucker
BG3 was released two years ago, and yet you keep spamming the same pics in the BG3 threads after all this time. You’re the best proof the game was great (even if flawed). And I don’t need to give you a (you), because you’ll recognize yourself.
>>719485429>considering her writer is a cocksuckerAsk our local schizo to post that screenshot of Lae'Zel's writer, you never know
>>719463746I never really played Baldur's Gate before, but Larian was only really interested in telling their own original characters' stories and throughout all the marketing that was the main focus of the game, "Look at our cool characters." This is actually pretty normal for VRPGs, but usually games like that have a main character and the rest of the party is your lovable band of rootless misfits. In other VRPGs, just like in their ancestral TTRPGs, everyone makes their own character to play as, and making your own character is a big part of what defines an RPG so that's honestly preferable, and since BG is based on a TTRPG that's what they went with. Except they also went with the other thing at the same time. So you both have your main character OC and Larian's premade party of misfits.This can work, but the problem with BG3 is they fucked up both of them. Your MC has no story. You're no one. If you didn't have a party or if your party is also a bunch of OCs (which does happen if you play with friends and I wouldn't recommend playing this game without a full party of friends), then it's fine if you don't have any real character because you can just inject it yourself and let the game do its own thing. That's not the ideal scenario, but it works just fine. The problem is when you play by yourself with a nobody OC and you're surrounded by all these pregens with main character syndrome. It just makes you wonder why your character sucks compared to them. You feel like you're crashing a party and everyone's too polite to ask you to leave.And a normal response to that is to point out how lovable the misfits are, but they aren't. They fucked that up, too. Typically RPG parties feel like some kind of found family, but none of these characters like each other, if they ever even interact with each other, and they don't like you much more either so why are they following you?
>>719485530>He played TavRetard
>>719485530The main character is the most important one of them all, the problem is that he's not advertised as the main character so most people don't actually pick him
>>719485217I wonder how long until you've altered your images so much they are all no longer readable.
>>719482739>Spending this much effort on a game you don't even likeA step above the usual Larianigger but still deranged
>>719485020All the companions stories feel like they got gutted near the end frankly, mainly because the whole of Act 3 got gutted so they could push the game out.Pretty funny and tragic in hindsight how much better the game could have been if Larian didn't mistakenly believe that Starfield wasn't going to be an enormous piece of shit that even the most hardline Bethesda drones would get completely bored of in less than a week.
>>719485583No, you can also play one of their characters, but that's not what we're talking about.
>>719485436nice legs
>>719485665This is just a preset without a face. You can say it's the MC and I get to choose his face, but okay, let me restate my criticism:This game sucks because the MC is a cringey edgelord for 13-year olds who pretend to like gore and senseless violence.
>>719485502>lae'zel's writer also wrote willtop kek, based writer once again intentionally writes the black character to be a fucking loser
>>719485720What makes you think that I don't like the game just because I criticized a single party member? Are you autistic? Just because I think your waifu is annoying as fuck and not worth taking doesn't mean that I dislike the game.
>>719485784I consider it a side effect of CRPGs over inflated play time. You could have dropped the majority of Act 3 and inserted the important bits into Act 2 and the game would have benefitted.
>>719485786You were talking about your no one OC having no background. That's 100% your fault for playing Tav
>>719463746only character that wasn't downright rude to you when first meeting them. i'm serious i killed everyone else for either assaulting or insulting the pc for no real reason. and even he got awfully close
>>719485530it's because you are supposed to play as durge, but normies like you seethed about it so they split tav and durge for the launch
>>719486120The Dark Urge has a background, but he isn't an OC. He's a preset character just like Gale and Astarion.
>>719486037this>>719485784I agree with you, but I don't think it was Larian, I think it was hasbro who were being faggots about the launch date and who incorrectly assumed todd's slop would have been good
>>719486338>>719485786Durge has very little background. even the game outright says, he wasn't always durge. the entire durge segment of his life takes place right before the game and then basically you can fill in the backstory you want from before he went schizo
>>719485925>I don't like any of the originscool, you can pick the MC and you can design him>no, I want someone who has zero backstoryok here>no this is also bad because he has zero backstory
>>719486368I don't know about that, but WotC and Hasbro are such unbelievable faggots that Larian ended up turning down making expansions despite how many accolades the game got, just so they could cut and run and never work on a D&D product ever again. So I could certainly believe that they're also to blame for this on top of all the pozloaded shit that's awkwardly crammed everywhere in the game.
I didn't finish this game, but can anyone who did tell me if there's a scene where Astarion hypnotizes the player?
>>719487152idk i can't rememberhope this helps
>>719487152No but if you romance him and then let him ascend he can make you his thrall. He generally goes from “woe is me” to “you will sit on my lap, naked” which is why he’s favourite romance option among women
>>719487032Supposedly the team they were interacting with over at WotC got fired after BG3 blockbuster sales and Swen just had enough.
>>719464091No, it's only the case with Gale. Fuck him, fuck his quest and fuck his ex. Just pick durge and pull his arm off.
>>719487597Based. Fuck Corpos
>>719463746because larian is retarded and think that players want to play as the gayest, douchiest, flamboyant and arrogant people as possibleit's even worse in BG3, at least in DoS2 you had backgrounds that actually meant something, even if it wasn't the best. It's like they saw that most people went custom characters and then decided everyone of those customers should go fuck themselves.
>>719487152I killed him because he tried to gay rape me in my sleep
>>719487597Yes, WotC fired man by man every single person Larian worked with until in 2022 none left. Fuck wotc
>>719463746This is the problem with the game, Tav is a boring blank slate that’s a side character to the writer’s super special mary sue companions. You have to either play as one of their super special mary sue companions or play a Durge character and kill most of them to find any enjoyment.
>>719478342She tasted normal, he’s just canon as extremely racist.Proof: if you play as him, there are no status effects from doing it. He’s lying.
Epic.
>>719487032>>719487597People forget that while BG3 was having astronomic success WotC was imploding. From trying to further monetize D&D through unpopular idea of subscriptions to Open License debacle that turned the entire industry against them. It was miss after miss for them, and that's while D&D was riding sky high due to social media and shit. WotC are just morons who fucked up every single opportunity offered.
>>719480601People will complain about ai generated graphics when games used to charge $50 for this.
The best part about BG3 is that you can just kill anyone you don't like. OP should have roleplayed his true feelings into the game and have his MC murder Gale out of jealousy.
>>719481136Fuck now I want to replay to see if anything’s even newBut I’ve played it way too much and it’s probably nothing
>>719488043>wotc were implodinghasbo was imploding because they were seething about DND not making as much money as MTG because MTG has set rotation. but yeah like you said, WotC fucked up all that shit, also the film bombed even though it was decent.the film is very tonally similar to bg3 and is full of minorities and similar party companions so I bet a lot of the gay shit came from hasbro
>>719488172I haven't played in a couple years and started a new game. There's not much new noticeable. There are new subclasses but that doesn't mean that much because it's not like I tried all the subclasses before that anyway. Changing party members is easier, you get a dialog option to replace a party member instead of having to kick them out first.Other than that, it largely feels like the same game.I think that's for the best though. Being a fan of Paradox strategy games, for example, is suffering. I tried playing Stellaris again after a couple years and it's just a different game I had to learn and when I re-learned it, I realized it's worse than it used to be,
>>719481136>burning out in act 1classic mistake. just pick one route and go.
>>719487995Every time I got the “I am a very large man, and that is a very small hole” chirp I got a half chub
>>719488043What the fuck is this?
>>719463746>make a warlock tav>feel like the main character because there is no other warlock
>>719488137I guess people that play this game don't quite understand that. There's videos of people just killing every npc in the entire game friend and foe even party members and the game just progresses as normalI usually kill most of the mycelium people in the underdark if I cant pickpocket omellum or that guys cunt of a wife
>>719488643a masquerade violation
>>719488667I’ve been conditioned by larian to kill every single NPC before leaving an area unless I know they come back later.
>>719488667most people are fags and wont do that cause they want to see all the "content"
>>719488667>I guess people that play this game don't quite understand thatAnd you don't quite understand that not everyone defaults to murdering literally every single NPC every time they do something you don't like
>>719488643A midlife crisis
>>719488043Its certainly been a thing watching D&D over the years as all the grit it ever had got sandblasted off since the 3.5 days until its as soulless as a shutterstock business meeting photo. Now 5.5 is being written by AI and meanwhile a lot of the key players like that fucking retard Crawford who are responsible for faggening it to the absolute state that its in now have gotten poached after Hasbro shitcanned them and are now working Critical Role's gay theater kid rules light slop of a system like an ouroboros eating itself. I wish them all the success that D&D is now enjoying before they inevitably slip and get eaten alive by the community they've been cultivating.
>>719470707Necromancer is fine. Not the weakest wizard subclass, but far from the best. The level 6 extra/better Animate Dead is nice but the level 2 and 10 powers are really minor. Also the Mummy from Create Undead is great but it doesn't benefit at all from you being a Necromancer. So the entire class really boils down to one upgraded spell. Making them pretty unsatisfying as a pet class. You still have all the Wizard power and flexibility. So they aren't bad, but you aren't going to feel like an ARPG style Necro with a horde of undead.
>>719488506It's a problem for me in CRPGs that they often reward constant back tracking and wandering even when narratively the game is telling you to pick a route and hurry up. So instead of making a choice and following a path and living with the consequences you leave a spot just before a Climax to do a bunch if busywork. Bg3 does this a lot, like with the mountain vs underdark choice. Less freedom in regards to progress and travel would help make the locations you do see more signifigant and give replays more identity.
>>719488861This is the biggest, anti-fun problem. My first playthrough of the game I planned on being a good little gnome but I accidentally enraged the druids who proceeded to slaughter all the tieflings in real time as I was helplessly stuck in a turn based battle with a group of them. Normally, the accepted good run is saving the camp and the bad run is slaughtering them, but I just rolled with it anyway.
>>719479391>most players never became Jergal's Chosensad
>>719484273>>719485121Every female companion got aged up because women worked on the game.And women HATE younger (attractive) women.That's why they call people pedophiles for liking 18-25 year olds.
>>719489106Everything about Mercer feels like a meetoo waiting to happen
>>719489761Big if true
>>719489165The one time a game committed to that (Witcher 2) people got mad about it being “short” even though the whole point was that it was two games
>>719489761it's so fucking dumb when I don't think they write out anyone's ages other than like shart and faggot vamp and they still write lae'zel and shart really young. I guess they give wyll's actual age too. again, even normies read Lae'zel as>she's a high schooler and she's telling you you need to get back to her high school and go to the school nurse
>>719487425Nice. Thanks, anon.
>>719489178I played blind the first time, only found two companions in the entire first act (SH and artstation), didn’t realize you weren’t supposed to tell Minty where the grove was, then let her in the grove because she was flirting with me.I restarted once I realized I was fucked but it was still fun.
>>719489761Nah. Lae'zel is more or less a teenager. Shart has been the same the whole time and Karlach was made cuter and younger looking compared to all her original concepts.
>>719463746just play him or durge. self insert OC donut steel mary sue chars are cringe anyway. though I completely understand if no one wants to play will.
>>719488793Same, need that fucking XP man.
>>719490034I assumed basically everyone was around 22-25, with astarion and SH being older in earth years but essentially 22-25 because of elf aging. And gale more like 30.
>>719490385So glad they went with Rosie o’devill
>>719490416Larian has said that Lae'zel is definitely the youngest.
>>719480736>She was meant to have a pregnancy (with mc) arc.False. She already had a child which is what got scrapped, jackass.
>>719490203how the the fuck did you only find shart and fag vamp? fucking wyll is in a cutscene >>719490416>>719490682>>719490385they have their "canon" ages on some licensed gamehttps://idlechampions.fandom.com/wiki/Absolute_AdversariesLae'zel and shart are both written like teenagers but shart you can at least kind of hand wave with the memory thing
>>719490515She doesn't look like rosie odoland
>>719490385Yes they are designed by fourty year old women, they were always old, they're just written and act like teens.That's the issue.
>>719482651
>>719490878Idk why she looks like Rosie o Donnell to me but she just does.
>>719490817Too fucking old, all of them.They should all be teens and the frog should be eleven.
>>719490817I basically went straight to the goblin camp. First time I ever interacted with wyll was to loot the body
>>719489994That's because it was noticeably shorter than the first game. But CRPGs are typically already nearly 100 hours long ignoring all the side content. I just think that stuff should be more restricted and designed to encourage replay
>>719463746Be a sorcGOD and mog him at every turn. Take him to the lantern scene in Moonrise just to use your gigachad sorcerer willpower to make the lantern without using his nerd shit.
>>719482185He is thinking of EA Wyll that wanted to fuck her. That or Gale.
behead karlach. play football with her head. roundhouse kick her body into the river
>>719478489>imagine NOT being an empty vessel ever willing to be filled by whatever slop is poured into his skullindeed
>>719481158>you are literally punished for not metagaming the fuck out of that encounter since you'll miss out on a cheevo, a small plotline, and one of the best cha caster chestpieces in the game in act 2 if you don'tDurge gets access to some unique stuff in exchange. Not to mention the game is intended for multiple playthroughs and getting all the "cheevos" will generally require "meta-gaming" anyway. The forced kill is necessary to make Durge more than a Paper Tiger narratively and the scene is far more powerful with Alfira than Quil.
>>719490817Shadowheart is a half-elf, in human years she's 20 at most.
>>719491257Because she has the same manface i'd assume.
>>719481158>and one of the best cha caster chestpieces in the game in act 2 if you don'tThe chestpiece is trash for anyone but a warlock.
>>719482739>modShitposter hands typed your post.>>719482110Because it isn't how they played the game, child.
>>719463746Let him show you his magic trickhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34KcjPVd69A
>>719489165There is a reason why a lot of people like doing their first playthough completely blind. The nature of CRPGs is you become poisoned by knowledge in some ways.
>>719482338>She doesn't do anything Anomen or Jaheira can't do betterShe is a vastly superior tank to both and can put both cleric and mage shit in sequencers and triggers which makes her infinitely versatile. Literally no one else can pull time stop harm.
>>719483219>people were negative about Icewind Dale because it didn't have real companions and NWN because you only got a henchman.This is fair. It would have been nice if more of the party in IWD got to choose answers. Also, a henchman is pretty lame for most classes.
>>719475157That's a single scene and taking place inside a dream. There was NOTHING in the quests, interactions etc. that had you act anything like Dark Urge, or even have the option to.>>719475483Once again, your one and only example is from a FUCKING DREAM SCENE. The EA content where you actually run around had ZERO scenes with anything close to what the Dark Urge can do.Sven outright said this was a late-in-development project, and it's obvious why. Dark Urge is only interesting to those people who actually played the previous games, which is the vast minority.
>>719492021EET is a mod, you retard. I like how anti BG3 posters have absolutely nothing of merit to say and when they get BTFO, they either vanish in an autistic puff of smoke or mindlessly spam insults. It's possible for someone that grew up with the original games to also enjoy BG3. Shocking, huh?
Here's the gameplay being shilled
>>719485530>Your MC has no story. You're no one.That's absolutely not the case if you play as Drow or Githyanki.
>>719466323I figured he would show up later in the game. How the fuck would a new player know otherwise?
>>719492171I don't like her as a character (this is the important part) and I'm not going to use her for 50+ hours for her to finally become strong when the game is easy and everyone else is already incredibly strong from the moment that you recruit them.
>>719476909Wizards are a low tier class for dialogue options
>>719492946Plus these for the cleric on top of their generic options
>>719484724would
>>719493107And races too just for completeness
>>719492874She's strong the moment you pick her up by the virtue of being able to stack all level 3-4 cleric and wizard protection spells on herself. Literally nothing can hit her or harm her in any way, she is an unkillable wall immune to everything. Within 3-4 quests she becomes a swiss army knife who can adapt to any situation, from fighting beholders to vampires.It's fine if you don't like her (even tho you're a massive faggot and an idiot, the second she gets over her issues she becomes an adventure junkie) but you're blatantly fucking wrong about her viability.
>>719463898hard to do it when the guy behind you literally fucks the goddess embodiment of magic, bro
>>719492171Jaheira's Harm always hits because of the Critical Strike HLA. She doesn't need that cheesy bullshit that also only works once you almost hit level cap.
>>719485784The thing that upsets me is we won't even get the content as DLC, so the whole act is just lacking.
>>719493196I DON'T LIKE HER, RETARD. I'm not going to take someone that I don't like in a piss easy fucking game like BG2 that I've beaten a million times. Get it through your fucking head. I wouldn't have done a solo playthrough with >>719482739 if I was some kind of fucking newbie at the game. Please kill yourself.
>>719466492This is my problem with it. I gave it a pass on DOS2 but BG3 has pretty much infinite voice acting budget. Why the fuck are they mute.
Why the FUCK shart can't hit shit?
>>719493336Nobody cares about your autistic screeching, faggot. You're blatantly wrong about her mechanical viability. Waste of air.
>>719493336Seething
>>719463746>literally you but coolerim sorry a B-tier Marvelslop character is cooler than you, anon.>>719463898Terrible setup for roleplaying however.
>>719492946>>719493107Just take into account that 50% of all the Barbarian "unique" dialogue options is just the regular Intimidate ones getting an additional tag.
>>719473202Play Pathfinder: Kingmaker before Wrath of the Righteous, since the latter comes with some quality of life features that you'll otherwise miss. Rogue Trader is good too. Other than that, you could give Shadowrun: Dragonfall or Shadowrun: Hong Kong a try if you haven't played them yet.
>>719493440Yeah, talking to you retards does piss me off. I hate you all.
>>719493107>SharOnly Shadowhart can be a Shar cleric, no? Why Shar is even there in that list? That's just Shadowhart's unique interactions.
>>719492946UNIQUE options, yes. But wizard has another strength: since you're a high INT class, your detect thoughts and investigation checks are sky high, and they are as prevalent as CHA dialogue options, if not more.
>>719493171>.1% of players>90% of special dialoguegith bros we won
>>719486121The only one who was rude to me was frog, and that was because she thought that I was a mindflayer.
>>719493419I can cast haste on Korgan, Anomen, and myself and clear 99% of fights in BG2. Why take someone I have to buff up every fucking fight when I can just clear the screen with them? She's shitty for that reason.
>>719492148>>719492312>>719484210>>719493163Reminder the BG3 schizo was outed as an actual, unironic pajeet.
>>719493515>"unique"Not really?Only barbarians can make the gatekeeper Goblin eat the Worg shit, for example.
>>719493107How much antagonism there is if you play a Selune cleric and romance Shadowheart?
>>719493747That's why I said around 50%, and they get tagged because being a Barbarian makes them easier. He still has plenty, but nowhere near what the chart suggests.
>>719493545You wouldn't even be able to explain to anyone how a couple of level 4 spells can make her "an unkillable wall immune to everything," yet we are the retards?
>>719493739every game has a pet retard these days it seems
>>719493694Nobody forces you to take her. Your only job is to shut the fuck up when we're talking about game mechanics of the character because you are, objectively, full of shit.
>>719493759Not enough, but it's unique enough, you can literally go>shut the fuck up and kiss me at one point
>>719492946Reminder that a single level Barbarian dip is very good for a sorcerer because you gain CON to ACSounds like a perfect dip to take on a durge.
>>719493641>>719493171Too bad playing a Githyanki doesn't synergise well with Dark Urge. He has too many instances of recalling actually being an active part of their society, which goes against Durge being raised in Baldur's Gate.It's similar to playing a Drow, where you have actual memories of living in Menzoberranzan.
>>719482338>>719492171Aerie is strong but notably slow to develop. Which means she can either be good or bad depending on your preferences and perspective. Particularly which part of the game/exp curve you value most. Sort of a less extreme version of "what level should you dual class at."
>>719493828Her use is SUBJECTIVE when I can achieve the same results faster when I'm not spending my entire life buffing her up. You're retarded.
>>719493626That's how they are tagged by the game itself, for whatever reason.
>>719463746>>make a wizard TavWhy? You can play as Gale instead. That's the whole purpose of the companions being playable.If you want to roleplay as something similar to one of them, just play as one of them, and you get a bit extra tidbits around the game.
>>719493920>Her use is SUBJECTIVENo, her use is objective. You can replace her with other characters but it doesn't make her any weaker.
>>719492946>>719493515>cont.Also some of those are misleading. For example, there's a unique dialogue option early on that's unlocked if you're a Sorcerer OR Arcana, and it's still counted in the chart as a Sorcerer-unique option since it's tagged that way.
>>719493898orphan gyth raised in baldur's gate using disguise spell to blend in. simple as'
>>719493982So /v/ is suddenly shilling premade characters instead of games giving me the freedom to play whatever I want?
>>719493898Also, how Baal fucked a Gith!?
>>719494052You can play what you want, retard.I'm telling you that if you want to play what already is a premade character, might as well play the premade character.Its extra stuff made available, not a restriction.
Playing a gigascaling Monk is the best Tav experience. No one takes you seriously early, which matches up with the gameplay experience. Then later, you're a god who zooms around doing 8 billion damage because of all the Monk favored homebrew Larian added, like Tavern Brawler.
>>719492946Why do they hate rangers
>>719494038No, I mean that your character has actual MEMORIES of living within the Githyanki society, which directly contradicts Durge's background.>>719494065Anon, have you even played the game? Dark Urge didn't have a mother. He was created wholesale from Bhaal's flesh and blood, which is why he's so insane even compared to "regular" Bhaalspawn.He's essentially Bhaal's Antichrist.
>>719494065By sticking his dick inside one? He literally fucked a dragonDurge was personally created by Bhaal anyway, he didn't fuck anyone to create him
>>719488643Dude looks like a legit pussywhipped cuck.
>>719493640Bullshit. CHA options are near omnipresent, there was rarely a dialogue WITHOUT one.
>>719493648yeah to be fair i only killed the frog after the tutorial in the forest. i understand that in the heat of battle you can't be all polite. but e.g. i left shadow heart in her cage (and was disappointed that she survived) for being a bitch. a single "please" would have made all the difference but the writers went too hard on "stressful situation require no politeness" vibe which is like an amateur writing trope and not how humans behave
>>719492432>>719492490>Oh no! It's a CRPG!
>>719463746The only reason I ever keep Gale around is if I'm playing Sorc because the banter is hilarious.
>>719493982NTA, but one of the main reasons I would do it is wanting to play some type of wizard or wizard multiclass that feels out of character for Gale. Bladesinger would be a good example.
>play Durge sorc>you end up killing Alfira>this cucks you out of the best CHA robe in Act 2I know you can spare her if you knock her out, but still silly you miss out on some perfect loot for your class due to a story element.
>>719494298Virgin Effortfag Gale vs Chad Talentbro Sorc
Is there a mod to make Wyll white? I kinda want to play as hexblade warlock, but i dont want to play as him.
Reminder that Swen outright said how you should play the game?>Never played any of the previous titles? Play as Tav.>Want a continuation to the Bhaalspawn storyline? Play as Durge.>Finished either of the above? Now you can play the Origins.
>>719492407>jackass tries to explain what was said in the post he replies tooOf course it is a mod, hence why you were called a shitposter, child.
>>719494432It also cucks you out of a 1d12 bardic inspiration.
>>719494527I like how I beat you the fuck out and now that I proved that I play BG2, you all now try argue about how Aerie is amazing and a must have for every playstyle lmfao.
>>719494432The robe is ABSOLUTELY nothing special for any sorc who is not spamming eldritch blasts.
>>719494513Yes, or you could just use the appearance edit mod
>>719493759it's kind of funny>We'll just agree to disagree and follow our own religious practices>FUCKING SELUNITES, PIECE OF SHIT, NOW GIVE ME WINE AND FUCK ME
>>719493810Yeah, you are the retards for metagaming in a game that is broken by mislead or project image. I don't like her as a character. She requires a bunch of buffs that I don't feel like casting when I can just cast haste and clear most of the game without thinking about it.
>>719494854I can roleplay a God fearing country boy converting some city girl Slu' with my weiner?
>>719493336>I DON'T LIKE HER, RETARD>>719493545>I hate you all.>>719493694>>719493920>yfw
>>719494990Why don't you go make a BG2 autism thread instead of shitting up the BG3 thread?
>>719495116He is a faggot, that's why.
>>719494948Yes, although I don't think worshippers of Selune can really "fear" their own god unless they've done some serious bullshit, and even then nothing would happen unless you're a cleric, which would make you lose your powers since you disrespected your own godno clue if that's still a thing in newer D&D
>>719494917Yeah, it's funny how she's so uptight with CHARNAME, but her other romance is with a pozzed Doomguard whose philosophy is to make things unclean. And cucks are trying to paint her as some holy maiden.
>>719495340You mean the guy she breaks up with?still trying to force your meme, huh?
>>719494238She does say please when she asks you to free her, fuckhead.>>719494513Jackass hands typed your post.>>719494685>proved you played a game to someone who never disputed thatA child you are indeed.
>>719495248Does Shadowheart really get her powers from Shar, or it's still Selune?
>>719495116Says the guy shitting it up.>>719495226And his fag.
>>719495551>A child you are indeed.So you're annoyed because I put EETMod in the image name? I have no idea what you're bothered about. I just did that because I have other characters/playthroughs in a separate BG2 install without that mod. That was to differentiate them.
>>719495551>She does say please when she asks you to free her, fuckhead.ok sorry i don't remember the details but i still remember her being rude. i really tried to rp a sensible person but also a dwarf that takes respect serious and i put a lot of consideration into not freeing her.maybe she said it in a snarky or sarcastic way? i don't remember. i didn't like her even though she was hot. simple as
>>719495652Who knows? Maybe Shar never gave her powers in the first place, maybe Selune was hoping somehow, someway, Shart was gonna find her champion in the SHARRAN RAPE REALM. Either way, you can immediately use her cleric powers right after those events, so either you kill the Champion and Selune lets you go, giving you Shar powers.
>>719495730I am calling you a faggot for needing to use a mod. Why is that so hard to understand, faggot?>>719495812>i still remember her being rude.You are clearly an autistic asshat.
>>719495921>I am calling you a faggot for needing to use a modEET just combines all of the games into a single game so you're able to revisit locations from BG1 in BG2. It's a cool mod and freshens up the game since I've probably beaten BG2 around a dozen times at this point. I don't need to use a mod.
>>719495921>You are clearly an autistic asshat.stop being rude to me! or i will... i will....ARRRRRGGGGGG
>>719495551>She does say please when she asks you to free her, fuckhead.No she doesn't, she just say no and stays there until you free her
>>719495652If she betrays Shar, look at her Deity in the character stats: It will be Selune.
