you MUST use my mod unchanged rather you like it or not
Revoice the dragon for fucks sake
>>719464765This dense motherfucker set back modding potential and rights for all games all by himself.Back in the day there was no fucking rules, except for 'don't make money using other people's IP'. Which made perfect sense. Then this dumbass comes along and claims that all mods are now the official IP of whoever made them, meaning modders are now technically stealing from the parent IP, and by extension it's stealing if you use a mod in any way without 'permission'.So now what used to be a wild west of creativity and innovation is a wasteland of death because nobody dares trying to make anything or else you'll tread on the toes of some dumbass who made a mod 5 years ago and he 'owns' the rights to adding zombies to that mutant alien game.>Modder who got permabanned from Project Zomboid for making a mod that allows the repair/upgrade of all clothing items, because some other retard made a mod that allowed the repair/upgrade of SOME clothing
Let's be serious, was he RIGHT?
>>719464945I literally thought that shit was vanilla for a decade until I saw the video
>>719464960iv seen you bitch about this before and its obvious you arent telling us the whole story.
>>719465105>iv seen you bitch about this before and its obvious you arent telling us the whole story.There's no story to tell.The game allows you to make items repairable/upgradeable with a simple line of code the vanilla game already uses.I just applied it to every wearable item in the game. His mod did it to only some items.For this heresy (modder was butt-buddies with the devs), I got permabanned.
He was right about Wabbajack though.It's a tool deadset on killing the modding scene.
>>719465183>Oh my god I can't make money from my INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INFRINGEMENT, HELP! HELP! SAVE ME NEXUS!Mods should be free and e-begging should be punishable by death.
>>719465183its also cucked to needing to pay nexus mods for it to be remotely useable >but this or that script still locked my computer down for hors while slowly downloading everything
>>719465230This isn't about money you little retard bitch, if all mods where forced to be free all complaints about Wabbajack would still apply. You need to force a community to exist and communicate for their to be a modding scene at all.You WILL learn how to install Mods.You WILL learn about load orders.
The correct thing to do is to make all of your mods free, and then leave a Ko-Fi link in case anyone wants to chip in 5 bucks pressure free
>>719464765ESL detected
>>719465346Nexus saw that most gamers are retarded normies and they capitalized on it. Can't blame them for that.>DURR WHAT'S A MODLIST?>WHAT'S A LOAD ORDER?>DURR!>DURRRRR!Modders just got uppity because all their ko-fi and patreon links don't get parsed when you use wabbajack, and modders nowadays are mostly transgender and e-beggars.
>>719465156>I juststopu stopu! there is more here. replace "just" with the rest of what you did.
>>719465543That's all the mod does. It just adds 'leather' 'denim' or 'cloth' material types to items to give them upgrades/repairs.That's the only actual code in the mod lmao, shit that's already in the base game.
>>719465585no retard, not what the mod does. what (You) did.
>>719465426So just say you hate modders and want modding to die.
>>719465641>Make mod that make shit upgradable>Put it on the workshop>Autistic retard sees my mod getting a measly 4 thousand users and then calls the NKVD on meLmao.>>719465651Modding is great and has massively improved many games.No, your Skyrim rebalance mod that turns everything into a meatsponge or piece of glass does not improve the game and you don't need a fucking patreon link for it.
>>719465183wabbajack is the only reason people still use mods. if you think anyone wants to sift through a hundred mods manually just to get hifi textures on grass and foliage, you can kill yourself.>buh that's the true experience of modding! that's the essence!and it's shit. adapt or die.
>>719465783>adapt or die>or dieYes, that's the issue.
>>719465783You are absolutely retarded. You don't even understand what mods are and why they are made in the first place.
>>719466050>Or die>That's the issueMods are free and are made for purely personal reasons.Why would a modder give a shit about Wabbajack unless they're doing modding for vanity (transgenders) or for money (e-beggars)?
Arthmoor won
>>719465091Me too, my mind melted when I saw that part of the video. Could've sworn I heard it before the patch even existed back when I played it for the first time too
>>719465183Wabbajack is just the next step of evolution of modded repacks. I miss the era when mods were free passion projects of some nerds, made for everyone to enjoy.
>>719466327This.
>>719466413>I miss the era when mods were free passion projects of some nerds, made for everyone to enjoyNOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU, YOU WILL CLICK ON THE FUCKING PATREON LINK FOR MY CHINESE ASSAULT RIFLE RETEXTURE MOD FOR FALLOUT 3.
>>719466094and you think you do because you're parading this stupid notion that people are willing to jump through hoops when there's an alternative that avoids the hoops entirely? the moment you bring up more than a handful of mods to suggest to someone you are already on the spectrum. i'm sorry to be the one to break it to you.
Keep whining. Keep crying. Arthmoor stabns alone at the top. He defeated the entire Elder Scrolls community and the internet. Todd Howard himself kneels before Arthmoor and Beteshda does nothing without consulting Lord Arthmoor.
>>719466413They still are, because nobody is going to make a living making mods (they get jobs working on the game instead, for better or worse)The problem is a lot of the people with the knowhow to make mods are already professional software devs and see nothing wrong with making it a side hustle
>>719466632His meal-ticket seems to be over because Starflop failed and ES6/FO5 is going to be just as bad if not worse.
>>719466413Explain how wabbajack suddenly makes it not a free passion project. Modpacks in themselves are free passion projects. You have to put in effort to get so many mods to work together and iron out all the issues.
>>719466758He's saying Wabbajack continues the trend of mods being free and passion projects.Because the mods themselves have donation links plastered everywhere.
>>719466758you're arguing with grifting e-beggers that need to put their shit behind paywalls to support themselves financially. they don't care about communities they care about making money.
>>719465651I hate modern modders and want them all to die. They turned what was something done for fun and the love of the game into attention seeking and money driven horrors.
>>719466758It kills community.
>>719466094I may or may not be the guy you're replying to, But you are nowhere near as smart or autistic as you think you are.
>>719466896Stop banning the users of your mod for 'transphobia' and 'fascism' because they pointed out you snuck a trans flag into the last level then you fucking degenerate. Then you might actually keep an active community.
>>719466896What community and how does it kill it? It's not the community of people who download because they all just post retarded shit in comments about how they can't get it to work or that they like it. The modders themselves have their own haven where they all talk in private. At least in regards to nexus.
>>719464765>mfw I was completely of this decade-long drama in the modding scene
>>719466896I dont want to talk to these people. I want the mods and in fact they should pay ME to install them. In fact I'll start writing up bills I will send to the modders where they can pay me for exposure and for using their brapware.
>>719466896it doesn't. it unifies the community by giving them a place to ensure their mods will be accessible to more people. but of course modders don't care about that anymore. they only want control over their mod just like corporate jews want control over their products.
>>719466927You seem to be really insecure about intelligence though.
>>719466758i dislike wubbajack because the shitty little 8 lines of code mod i made for a niche indie game got used by a bigger modder as a dependence, so now every time the fucking indie game updates i get HUNDREDS of messages about "updating my mod" to fix conflicts on their particular mod manager, even though i only uploaded the mod on fucking thunderstore.and the best part, is all that changes is i swap the version number to match the games version number.i've left notes on EVERY FAQ page i can about this "just open the json and set the version number to match the game" and i STILL get just as many messages.worst part is that i removed the mod like 8 updates ago, but since people "reuploaded" the mod to use as another mods dependency and attributed it to me, i still get fucking messages from retards who just see an error and try to contact the mod maker instead of say, reading the fucking error.never making shit for games after this RoR2 bullshit.back when i started you would upload a mod, with a few bits of info on what it did, and how, and someone else would make a mod using it, and improving it, and upload that and tell people you made that chunk, and the only people that would contact you about it would be other people using your mod to make more mods, since end users either knew what they were doing, or were polite enough to not fucking bother you about it 24/7.
>>719467207you seem to be really gay
>>719465105Some modders/modding communities are just that fucking unhinged, or worseJust look at the Stardew Valley Nexus modding community, where you can hace your mod deleted and banned for taking inspiration from the seasonal mod's clothing styles
>>719464765How come no one made a version of the UP that doesn't has any of this faggot changes to the game?Skyrim modders would spend years creating gooning mods and not a single fucker could make a real UP, claiming that it's impossible to remove retarded changes of a single mod.I still refuse to use this shit.
>>719465346>Nooooooooo you HAVE to waste all day MANUALLY installing my broken shit instead of using an autodownloader thats literally annuda shoah!Kill yourself you slimy german lizard faggot
>>719467442there are multiple mods that remove his unnecessary addtions/changes
>>719467409I don't know why but trannies come to this site to insist I somehow 'stole' some dumbass nigger's mod, the gaslighting of them has no end.
>>719464765>popular youtuber covers Arthmoor drama>now doesn't feel as fun calling the guy a faggotoh shit, is this what it feels like?
What if someone had repainted the Mona Lisa because they didn't like her prying eyes? That is what someone was doing to /ourguy/. They were painting over his art. In the end, he was justified.
>>719467442People have tried, it just gets taken down or is delegated to underground distributionhttps://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/evqxpp/in_case_you_missed_it_on_the_nexus_removing/
>>719466413>I miss the era when mods were free passion projects of some nerds, made for everyone to enjoy.You didn't gatekept it enough, every patreon nigger should've been lynched on the spot the second he tried to earn money from a mod. Now they refuse to find real jobs relying on patreon scumming + discord integration instead.
>>719464765unrelated, but every time i open vortex i get bombarded with notifications
>>719467573It's more-so like someone painting over the mona lisa, then throwing a bitchfit when someone paints over their paint.Like nigger you were already fucking things up, why are you complaining someone else is too?
>>719464765Is Arthmoor the kind of fag who would delete all his mods from existence if Bethesda told him they didn't want his mods to exist? Because he would be a giant fucking hypocrite if he wouldn't. Modders aren't entitled to their mods. They do them anyway. At least that's how it should be. But this fag argues otherwise for some reason.
>>719467625>vortexyou should use MO2
>>719466896A random mod that changes a few weapons you have 67th in load order would never have a "community". Nobody would go out of their way to individually download them and certainly not discuss them because there's just nothing to discuss. Mod pack allows them to exist as a part of larger community effort, exactly what modding is about and specific modpacks have communities around them.Some flagship mods might be known individually but they are rarely completely standalone either. Anything big enough to have a sustainable number of people around it will have prerequisites that effectively make it a pack.
>>719467596It all started with Minecraft modding and snowballed from thereSure, there were paywalled mods before that, the Sims had a ton way back in the dayByt Minecraft was the first mainstream "accepted" modding community that wanted to get paidAdfly links git ingrained in an entire generation of zoomersAnd now paywalled mods are tolerated, when before they were not
>>719464765(((intellectual property))) is cancer
>>719465183Why do you mod then? For the fame? For the glory? There are modpacks and Steam collections, how is Wabbajack different? Hell I play sven coop and use a modpack with over a thousand models that everyone uses and allows everyone to see eachother skins, I find it pretty cool.Only lazy normalfags use Wabbajack anyways, stripping all the joy from making your own modded skyrim crafted by yourself.
>>719467442>UP that doesn't has any of this faggot changes to the game?There is it's just not on nexus or any other kikemerican hosted site otherwise slimy lizard will copystrike it.
>>719465346>You WILL learn how to install Mods.>You WILL learn about load orders.Nexus has their own wabajack now, retard. It's not going away.
>>719467638He's already a hypocrite>noo you can't use our mods in Skyrim VR because Bethesda said modding is not supported>releases a patch for Oblivion Remastered even though Bethesda said modding is not supported
>>719467649what is that
>>719466896You literally get banned for posting criticism or saying wrongthink out loud.
>>719467772Mod Organizer 2
>>719467649>>719467805i checked it out, thanks i used vortex for other games too though, not just skyrim
>>719466896The crabs in a bucket community that actively stifles creativity because muh hecking code is exclusive to muh project please subscribe to my patreon and also you can't make a mod that does what my mod does because I'm friends with the adminsFucking hate these clique-fags.
At least it's not starsector modding scene where trannies were putting malicious code into the mods to prevent you from using them with ones they don't like. So not only do you have to play their mods as is, but also what you are allowed to combine it with beyond compatibility reasons. People were making bootleg versions but that makes the arthmoor-like trannies mad you are stealing it so you can't post it on main forum or discord.It did eventually get notorious enough that dev had to tell them off for it and they had an autistic meltdown.I hear it's better now, but I was on a bit of a break from the game anyway.
>>719467486I'm listening, please illuminate me with your wisdom.What are this mods?
>>719467589I already know this, every link in there is 404, do you know any other place to get this?
>>719467695Do you have a link?
>>719467268That's completely understandable but I'd say it's not exactly unique to or wabbajacks fault. If your mod simply got popular by other means and a bunch of idiots started putting it in their modlists and having conflicts you'd still have the same issue.
>>719467442The whole point of his drama is that people did make exactly what you said but he had them DMCA'd and would have the mods removed because he did not like people editing his mods.
>>719464765the problem is nexus itselfthey've allowed this and they won't change their mindthe place deserves to crash and burn
>>719468026https://mega.nz/folder/MzJzBSAR#H1K65jVzjSk11_JtGIP0ng/file/EyIE1JQZThis is the /tesg/ USSEP version, which is older and includes a patch to remove the unwanted changesThere's also mods like https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32371 and https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/93280
>>719467268>>719468321Ironically it seems it's the desire to keep attribution and "respect" the original mod author instead of just stealing it is what is causing the issue here.
>>719464765Symptom of the larger 'credit the artist or else' hysteria
>>719469363>CREDIT THE ARTIST WHO DRAWS IP-THEFT FAN ART YOU FUCKING CHUD BIGOT REEEEEEEE!
>>719464960This is a rule according to who, though? No one is gonna stop you making mods of someone ELSE'S IP. That's the irony - it never belonged to the modder in the first place
>>719466896What do you think this is, medieval Europe? Oh everyone needs a community from the basket weavers to the lamp lighters, the screwmakers and the dick skinners!
>>719468385This is a problem with most modding platforms. Those schizos are treated with kid gloves because they are friends with the tranny admins or just because they want them to keep making the thing. You tell them no once and they will have a pissing and shitting sperg meltdown, delete the mod from everywhere and try to get all of their other tranny clique to follow suit so they get to hold mod hostage to get their way.Even if you are willing to actually do the work yourself when they are gone, without official blessing admins on most "reputable" sites will take it down to not offend any other muh artists original rights drama queens.>>719469756I mean, they technically can't stop you but they , but admins will remove you from most sites because they liked the original author better and other trannies start putting crash code into their mods to make it incompatible even if you manage to distribute it otherwise.
>>719469756This is a rule according to who, though? No one is gonna stop you making mods of someone ELSE'S IP. That's the irony - it never belonged to the modder in the first placeBeats me, all I know is that modders are complete fags nowadays and insist they 'own' their mods, meaning even if you come up with something similar by yourself you're infringing on their rights(???) and you can and WILL get banned.
>>719470739This is a rule according to who, though? No one is gonna stop you making mods of someone ELSE'S IP. That's the irony - it never belonged to the modder in the first place
>>719470942This is a rule according to who, though? No one is gonna stop you making mods of someone ELSE'S IP. That's the irony - it never belonged to the modder in the first place
>>719470942The project zomboid developers are on record as saying modders indeed own their mods, even if it uses vanilla code.Meaning you can rightfully own the entire game if you just upload the whole game. I am not making this shit up, this is how communists think.
>>719469346>>719468321nah mate, the issue is automation.wubbajack just scrapes the files, and jams them in, thats fine when it works, but it doesn't work.the reuploads reuploaded my mod so that their NMM, Vortex, overwolf, curseclient, wubbajack, other automated installer could grab the data along with 20 other mods, and install them without a thought.they were all the same "I DIDN'T MAKE THIS MOD, CONTACT THE AUTHOR FOR SUPPORT" preface, then the litearl copy paste of my mod description, left unedited.the problem is that people are lazy as fuck, instead of learning how a mod is installed, and learning basic shit from it, like where the config files are, so they can edit them, they just hit a checkbox or 50 and wait for the robot to do its work.instead of reading an FAQ that explains how to fix an issue, that only exists because the automated installers demand a number be present before it deigns to even attempt to run the game, they just contact the mod creator directly, and get shitty when i dont drop everything to tell them the same thing i told the last 20 kids, to read the FAQ or description on the only version of the mod THAT I HAD ACTUALLY POSTED like im their personal tech support.making things easier is not BAD, but making things too easy makes people fucking retarded.we need a basic barrier for entry, and i found that needing to paste a folder is a good level of gatekeeping.if you cant find the game files, you don't deserve to modify them.
>>719467634its more like someone traced the mona lisa, and added bigger eyebrows to theirs, and hung it up next to the real mona lisa, and then someone else traced over bigbrows mona lisa, but removed the eyebrows, and hung it up next to both.and the guy who traced mona lisa first got the cops to destroy the nobrows tracejob.
>>719467961Starsector has like 5 good mods, the rest are bloat.
i miss when modders were just russian dudes modding just for the fuck of it because there is fuck all else to do in shitholtzyn oblast, russia.
the worst thing that happened to modding is how every faggot paywalls their stuff the minute it gets popular
>>719470974>>719470739This is a rule according to who, though? No one is gonna stop you making mods of someone ELSE'S IP. That's the irony - it never belonged to the modder in the first place
>>719464765Why did he even add the gatesFor what purpose
>>719464765Mod drama bullshit is the reason mods are such a non factor.Mod community get your shit together.
>>719465105You know how some of starsector's mod developers has had some bitch fight with other mod developers so they brick your save if you're using mods from both parties
>>719472174he felt like they would fit in the lorehe did the unreasonable thing of adding it to a mod that was doing something completely differentwhich is incredibly stupidif i order pepperoni pizza and you bring pepperoni pizza with anchovies, guess what, people will complain
>>719472174power trip + genuine autism
>>719472174Ego trap, he could have removed it on his own if no one talked about it, but 'the mistake' became 'his mistake', so he covers for it like a father his drunk driver son
