What really went down here?
idk
>>719465227He's charging at us.
The fallen ash man knight man needed to light the up the night or something or the other
the dark soul... imagine
>>719465227he's going to the worst box art hall of fame
>>719466347most iconic of the 2010s
>>719466701it is iconic but i prefer the japanese one
So how come you die when linking the flame but gwyn didn't?
>>719465227Old dude didn't wanna let go and lead the world to stagnation. Now he's trying to fool humans into prolonging the reign of his people even longer with a fake prophecy.
>>719467904He did
>>719468061And then turned undead, but you an undead go kapoof
>>719468409No, he turns into the Soul of Cinder
>>719468456if you kill him, not from linking the flame
>>719465227Gwyn defeated the dragons but secretly fucked one and made fucked up children
>a few guys come over somewhere, kill dragons and make fire. >fire makes things pretty and guys rule.>after a few years, fire is dying and now guys are desperate.>you do your thing and either rekindle the fire or become snake king.is this right
>>719468998I thought seath made her
>>719469052either way you're being manipulated
>>719469212so you might as well become serpent royalty while you're at it
>>719469052>>719469212>>719469304>>719468998>>719467905How low must your IQ be to be this clueless?
>>719469409zanzibart... forgive me
>>719469409some of us have wives and jobs man
DS2 and especially DS3 invalidate the ending.Dark Lord is the correct ending.
>>719470232No they don't>Dark Lord is the correct endingYou want to know what the Dark Lord ending is?
>>719470289The ending where you don't burn to death
>>719469409Point out what is wrong if you want to be taken seriously on this Macanese fish disembowelment forum.
>>719465227Who the hell is he?Or the other deities for that matter.
>>719470528A god from DS2 we know basically fuckall about, a lot of the DS2 lore is left to rot unfortunately. DS3 does way too many callbacks to 1 and not enough for 2.Not having picrel make an appearance or mention in 3 was fucking criminal. Though i guess he is hinted as being the scholar who convinced prince lothric not to link the flame.
>>719470528He was exiled following the Seventh Irythillian Civil War, during the reign of Lloyd the Wise, and thereby stripped of his status and worldly possessions, hence why he's never mentionned again.
>>719470471All of it, you can click on every post I quoted and it's wrong you fucking ape
>>719470906Concession accepted.
>>719470528A dude who would have showed up in Dark Souls 2 (like Lloyd) if Dark Souls 2 was made by Miyazaki instead of those stinky jews at Bamco and Shibuya and the series received a proper trilogy
>>719471004The only concession you can accept is alternating breathing and thinking. You can't even tell if the First Flame appeared before of after the Dragons were defeated
I don't like the word PYGMY
>>719468903Nope
>>719467843its nice
>>719470470but you're undead?
>>719470470Wrong, you get consumed either wayKaathe had many other "Dark Lords" and you literally kill them.The player fate will be the sameDark Souls has no actual ending until Dark Souls 3
>>719471120whats the lore with him anyway>gwyn is a giant guy>nito is a skelly guy>chaos witch is a woman guy>pygmy is a human guy?
>>7194717392 and 3 aren't really canon. Actually neither is dark souls. Demon's souls is the only real one.
>>719471739Kaathe never had another actual Dark Lord, the position requires accessing The First Flame
>>719471854the main gods were all giants and the pygmy was fishing for scraps but found the best soul
>>719471937wrong your ancestor created the first age of dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLc2NpeiZU
>>719471937>Kaathe never had another actual Dark LordYes he did>the position requires accessing The First FlameNo, that requires all the humanity Darkwraiths provideDefeating Gwyn is completely irrelevant and tangential to that>>719471928Nigger
>>719471739The Four Kings were the rulers of New Londo, they never got to the Kiln.
>>719472252No he was set to before Gwyn prevented the flame from actually going out. The Age of Fire was extended beyond the point that the next Age was meant to come in. The Dark Lord is just the man who proves able to put out the First Flame and allow nature to run it's course, it hasn't yet happened. The Darkwraiths and Four Kings were attempts by Kaathe to find suitable candidates
>>719465227its the far future in elden ring.
>>719472673Defeating Gwyn has nothing to do with being Dark Lord
>>719473031Yes it does, there is no Dark Lord so long as the flame staves off the dark
Zanzibar failed and lost everything on his Journey to Drangldic, Thoustve thine duty to step into the fire and bring the light of darkness upon thine world once more.
>>719473031It's the alternate ending to DS1. DS2 and DS3 don't have a consistent world, you're better off not thinking too much about it.
>>719473237>DS2Playing it for the first time RN (not scholar) and while I am having a blast, I dont like the meta fourth wall breaking.>You will lose all your souls>Again and againcome on now
>>719465227>Dark Souls Loredragons, orcs, and bows n shit
>>719473437After Prepare to Die Edition came out, they decided to go all out on the marketing of Dark Souls being a difficult game.
>>719473582The words "Prepare to Die" predate that edition of the game in their marketingThey went all in on the difficulty before the game came out at all
>>719473582I just dont like the 4th wall breaking ingame. Its really out of place for DS in my opinion.
>>719473089>Yes it doesNo it doesn't>>719473237>It's the alternate ending to DS1. Which has nothing to do with being Dark Lord. The player has to decend in a sacred shrine down in the abyss to kill the other aspiring Dark Lords because being Dark Lord means being a vessel of humanity in quantities that will trasform him into roots of pure Darkness, which happens to many characters>DS3 don't have a consistent worldYes it does, it's the actual ending of Dark Souls which follows up with all the established metaphysics and plotpoints of the original.
>>719465227The world is an engine and requires fuel to keep running. But everything is ass and some question wether it's worth it or not to keep refueling.
>>719467904who told you you died ?
>>719469409How about you give us your genius take then.
>>719473863All wrong.
>>719473813DS1 had 4th wall breaking as well, the games are great but highly overrated.
>>719473926On what? I don't have time to clear any misconceptions because you retards talk way too much of shit you don't even try to understand?>>719473960Eat shit
>>719473031then why do it at all?
>>719474160>DS1 had 4th wall breaking as well,WhereDS2 banged me on the head with it in the intro.Still loving it btw.
>>719474176It would take much less time if you didn't insist on weaving nonsensical headcanon into your answers and staunchly defending it
>>719473919the internet
>>719474274>you can spot my summon sign easily by its brilliant aura>if you miss it, you must be blind !
>>719471854he's tiny compared to the other lords and their followers who are big.
>>719474403That isn't 4th wall breaking, the summon signs are scribbled on the ground in-universe with an explanation as to how summoning itself is an in-universe phenomenon
>>719474403Oh, Solaire? All my NPCs except Bowl Cut were dead in the end, I went in 100% blind.
I stood upI clappedand then I proceeded to get clapped over and over again :(
>>719473031Yeah technically it's not necessary but Gwyn is protecting the Flame which you need to extinguish.
>>719474645>roll towards him whenever he does a melee attack>win
Isn't all just a metaphor for PvP and bad red man and good blue man
>>719474581I'm proud of you anon ! Great job !
The weakest part of lore is invasions and PvP, like literal superhero multiverse shit that gets laughed at but ok when Fromsoft does it. It also just doesn’t make sense, invaders are immortal projections but the person you invade can die. Dumb.
>>719475412cant tell if genuinly happy that someone enjoys adventures where shit can go wrong or extremely hateful fromsoftfan.
>>719475650I just imagine the invaders as ghosts who roam the area, the "link between worlds" explanation is 4th wall breaking to make sure the player understands he'll be fighting other players.
Defend this
>>719474282I understand the lore better than anyone else here, especially you. Nothing of what I say is ever wrong because I actually check and double verify everything Insay while possessing intelligence far above yours>>719474271Because the game is about defeating Gwyn and defeating Gwyn allows you to claim the Dark Soul which Kaathe hopes to be enough to make for a Lord strong enough to contain humanity.>>719474759>which you need to extinguish.No you don't. The point of the Dark Lord is usurping the Flame, it was always usurping the Flame>I am the primordial serpent. I seek to right the wrongs of the past, to discover our true Lord. But the other serpent, Frampt, lost his sense, and befriended Lord Gwyn. Undead Warrior, we stand at a crossroads. Only I know the truth about your fate. You must destroy the fading Lord Gwyn, who has coddled Fire and resisted nature, and become the Fourth Lord, so that you may usher in the Age of DarkThe issue is that this power and humanity corrupts and renders hollows anyone who tries to claim it, thus the 4 Kings
>>719476691Wrong again. Embarrassingly so.
>>719476691Where in that blurb does Kaathe say to usurp the Flame? That's what Londor comes up with after centuries of Flame growing weaker and Dark becoming more and more untamable and thus not fit for the survival of people.In DS1, letting the Fire fade is enough to start the Age of Dark, no so much in DS3.
>>719476691aren't the serpents just manipulating everyone to create conflict? they don't care about anything.
>>719465227Unpopular opinion alert: This game really fell off after the Lord's Vessel.
>>719476691All of Dark Souls lore is ad-hoc nonsense written on a napkin. DS2 accidentally made the right decision by having a side story as its central plot.
>>719465227let me introduce to you...Gwyn's wife
>>719478484Busted
>>719465227tf happened here who was Gertrude and the angelic sect? On one hand I like that we never get explanation and hope we never get DS4 so it forever stays a mystery but on the other...the fuck did Aldrich see? What is the deep?
>>719467904He's a godYoure a human
>>719478801>What is the deepLiterally entropy
>>719465227I used summons for every fight because I have no friends.
>>719478801Probably a reference to Angel's Egg, why ? Because the devs ran out of ideas.
>>719478801>who was Gertrude Another daughter of Gwynevere and Oceirosand the angelic sect?Her cult which she started by sharing the words of an Angel (a matured pilgrim like those you see in the Dreg Heap).
>>719478484Gwyn's wife is a man.
>>719477004>Where in that blurb does Kaathe say to usurp the Flame?When he asks you to become the Fourth Lord, meaning the new Furtive Pygmy>That's what Londor comes up withNo, that was always what being Dark Lord entails>In DS1, letting the Fire fadeThis never happened>>719478424Seething midwit>>719477006The Serpents are using others, yes
>>719478801>tf happened here who was Gertrude and the angelic sect? An holy maiden that developed heretical teachings through her blindness, teachings imparted by Angels about the End of the World and the era beyond the First Flame>the fuck did Aldrich see? Water>What is the deep?Water
>>719465227*rolls a blunt*Bros...What if...*lights a blunt*The furtive pygmy*smokes a blunt*Was inside us all along...As the dark sign...
>>719479472>When he asks you to become the Fourth LordThe Lords didn't usurp the Fire to become Lords, they just took a piece. Kaathe never says "take the Fire". You character doesn't take the Fire. The Undead just leaves and lets the First Flame die with no kindling.
>>719480623>The Lords didn't usurp the Fire to become Lords, they just took a piece.So they... Usurped itDumbass
>>719476691The "dark lord" is obviously a parallel to Gwyn and serves a similar role but during the age of darkness.
>>719476691gwyn has the dark soul?
>>719479926if anything the darksign is a bonfire lit on humans consuming their humanity until they conviniently go hollow
>>719486453Isn't linking of the fire what made that dark sign curse
Was Seath the product of dragon inbreeding?Bro had no legs and no scales.
>>719487228He was just born like that and because other dragons tought he was a creep he allied with Gwyn
>>719468409anon i want you to think long and hard about why the entire kiln of the first flame is totally fucking meltedgwyn DID blow up you absolute fucking retard. don't kill yourself let me do it for you
>>719487228Ain't even got legs
