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Delta is fine, actually.
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>>719472276
Trukie but it really should have been 50 dollars, 70 is just too much.
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>>719472276
its great if you have hardware to run it
3rd worlders cant run it over 30 fps
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Is Delta huge or what? There's like two dozen Metal Gear threads going on right now.
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>>719473396
I'm a 3rd worlder and I got a 5070ti, works on my machine.
This thing cost me almost an entire month of salary.
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>>719472276
It did 2 things right: kbm controls and including all the extra content

Everything else is worse
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>>719473501
5080 cost me a 2 weeks salary
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>>719472234
didn't like delta
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>>719473439
Astroturfing because it isn't selling
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>>719473573
literally nothing is worse, retard

you did not even play it
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>>719473649
>coping and seething already
Okay Ranjeet
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>>719473439
Yes its a cultural phenomeon and selling bigly, everyone that's anyone is currently playing it and Silksong shills are in shambles
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>>719473687
It's the same game with better graphics, what's worse exactly?
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>>719473396
Runs fine on my 7800xt maxed out with FSR on, but I'm playing on 1080p
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>>719473871
Performance
Censoring
$70 for a shitty remaster
Overall general laziness on the devs part
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>>719474208
With DLSS set to performance
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>>719474262
>Performance

works fine on my machine
dont be a thirdie

>censoring
what did they censor?
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Someone in the last thread asked why people like Solid Snake over Big Boss.
Solid is a hero character despite the deck being stacked against him both in and out of universe. Never forget Kojima wanted to end 4 and by extension the saga to the tune of Solid and Otacon facing down a firing squad.
Big Boss can be considered more compelling in the sense that he's a tragic downfall type of character but in the games past 4 it seems Kojima treats him like some kind of comfort character because him being the protagonist lets him make games to gush about 60's/70's/80's Americana and never actually put any of the heinous shit he'd later get up to in any of the games you play as him, but he would market V that way.
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>>719474446
Eva nipples In survival viewer and her boobs jiggle physic, "shit" in Sigint codec calls.
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I never got into Metal Gear. Should I play the MSX games first?
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>>719474578
Unless you're a completionist fag I would say no honestly, unless you just enjoy old games. Metal Gear 1 is a very basic game, and MGS1 gives you a synopsis of what happens in MG1 and 2
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>>719474483
>Big Boss can be considered more compelling in the sense that he's a tragic downfall type of character but in the games past 4 it seems Kojima treats him like some kind of comfort character because him being the protagonist lets him make games to gush about 60's/70's/80's Americana and never actually put any of the heinous shit he'd later get up to in any of the games you play as him, but he would market V that way.

I think Kojima wasn't really interested in having Big Boss become the more simple villain he was in the MSX games. He wanted to show Big Boss descending into a more realistic kind of evil. He didn't become cruel, he just became apathetic and detached. He became the schemers who had manipulated him during the snake eater mission.
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>>719473439
>is the metal gear series huge or what?
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I played all the Metal Gear Solid games a few years ago. I guess MGS2 was my favourite overall. But I definitely played MGSV the most. They’re all good.
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>>719472276
it’s a good game, think of it as it’s own thing
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>>719473596
i did like your mums wet pussy albeit
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>>719473396
Can't even hit a steady 60 on a 5090 btw.
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>>719473396
I'm playing on Ultra 60fps but after a few areas suddenly the fps tanks. First I thought it was maybe my VRAM but restarting the game immediately fixes the fps and it doesn't tank in the same area only when I load in a new one.

Game has some serious memory leak issues. Probably it will never get fixed. I'll probably get a refund and its kinda boring too.
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>>719473396
>3rd worlders cant run it over 30 fps
just liek the original
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>>719474578
>Should I play the MSX games first?
first one aged like shit and barely has any story, 2 is a gem
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>>719474578
MG1 is eh but MG2 is legitimately quite good.
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>>719475897
Should I emulate the originals or the Subsistence versions?
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why do fujo love metal gear so much
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>>719472234
>wake up at 6 am on mgsv launch day
>literally slept 2 hours
>stream the game for my friend
>so goddamn hyped i can barely contain it
>get to the ending after several days, still in honeymoon period
>think the ending was ok
>stop playing the game
>eventually i slowly begin to question what just happened
>realize i never saw bb turn into a villain
>realize i never saw him train kids into becoming murders
>realize i never saw him go nuclear
>realize the ending wasnt an ending at all
>get sad and angry at the same time
>get told about chapter 3
>feel pure rage
fuck you, kojimbo. you fucking hack.
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>>719475248
Maybe I'm still just salty over V turning out the way that it did but it just feels like there's a missing sense of catharsis. You play through PO and PW and there's a sense of foreboding as BiBo builds and utilises the cult of his own personality but there's no big climax to any of it. Big Boss just sort of continues saving the world and the powers that be shaft him continually but I can't recall a moment where it felt like he's crossed his Rubicon. Plus it feels like to downplay his bastardry in the MSX titles works against Solid also when he explicitly rejects being a tool for violence.
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>>719476381
The moment Big Boss jumps the shark imo is when he agrees to Venom Snake's brainwashing, it basically shows that he's now willing to gaslight and manipulate other soldiers for his own personal schemes just like what happened to him in MGS3.
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>>719476639
People always make excuses for this one saying that Zero did it. Same for using the hospital as a shield. Until he’s literally shown mowing down children while twirling his mustache no one will admit that he’s bad. It’s almost like people don’t actually want him to be a bad guy and just pretend to be assmad about him not being evil enough.
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>>719475961
Subsistence is objectively better.
Gives you a 3D camera control option you can change back to the original camera angle at will. Other than the extra camera options it's exactly the same.
I would say maybe get one of the remasters just for native widescreen support and improved frame rate.
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>>719476639
Yeah, I'm sure that's the weird level of semi-betrayal and hero-worship Kojima was going for so you as a player feel burned by BiBo but I generally think V suffers for that (among many other things). Like you have the setting of Soviet Invasion in Afghanistan with CIA backed Mujahadeen or Africa being the birthplace of actual real life PMCs like Executive Outcomes and instead of the real Big Boss doing heinous shit for blood money it's just gonna be uhh another tweest just like MGS2 and we like that one, right? Like it feels like Kojima was just afraid to make an actual "Big Boss is The Villain: The Game" because he really wanted you to airlift and rescue kids and animals while listening to Kids in America so invented this bizarre story beat to give some degree of separation or something.
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My favourite character was Revolver Ocelot. What a weirdo.
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>>719474483
I really wish Solid got more love. His friendship with Otacon and quasi mentorship with Raiden were my favorite parts of the series. I would love to see Konami make a game where you play as Solid on some kind of mission between MGS1 and 2 or between 2 and 4. I would also just take a remaster of MGS2.
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>I'm counting on you, Otacon
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>>719473090
Fuck I mean I paid 50$ for this game twice already because of that subsistence bullshit.
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>>719472234
It kind of pisses me off that the forehead protector on the battlesuit seems like it's glued directly to the skull. It is supposed to be mounted on a bandana (which is why it disappears in V). These motherfuckers have access to Shinkawa's documentation and still fuck up the little details, which KojiPro was obsessed with.
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I don’t like discussing this in overt terms, but Psycho Mantis being an asexual guy who’s very disturbed by the obsessive tendencies of most people to have everything on Earth spiral into sex and the uniform desire to pass on their genes really connected with me. I wish he was the main character.
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>get to the Fury
>"Snake, try using your thermal goggles or night vision to help you see in the dark"
>UE5 engine makes the area fairly visible

Come to think about it I'm pretty sure you could see just fine in the original game.
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>>719476381
>but there's no big climax to any of it.
The climax is Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2.
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are there any other games with the same surreal and creepy vibe like in mgs2? the last moments were so fucking creepy and cool
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>>719481882
Zone of the Enders has some solid atmosphere even if the first game is kind of mid.
The closest you'll get stylistically to MGS1 and 2 is probably Ghost in the Shell
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>>719477595
>Like it feels like Kojima was just afraid to make an actual "Big Boss is The Villain: The Game" because he really wanted you to airlift and rescue kids and animals while listening to Kids in America
I think this is true, but I'm not sure what would satisfy people that think we needed another game to explore Big Boss. PW ends with Big Boss embracing the title and an impartial mercenary existence. MGSV sees him get his shit wrecked and then has him bail on everyone because he decided he had a more ambitious plan that was more important. That in itself is shitty behavior, but we also know this more ambitious plan is a world takeover scheme because it's the whole point of MG1. What else is there? Would seeing the real Big Boss act a little more cold when he Fultons Shootgunner be a major revelation?
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MGSV muscle memory is completely fucking me with Delta. It controls like V but the actual design and mechanics is much closer to 3, its fucking my brain
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>>719482389
Dirty duck's origin secret explaining why he's such a coward
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>>719482389
I think that people never cared about the story. They just wanted to see their favorite characters and post Metal Gear games. MGSV just said fuck you to everyone and did its own thing.
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Is mgsv like one of those open world games where the story is told through rushed missions where you have to follow objective markers on the map? I stopped playing after 4 and everyone says 5 is unfinished so I never played it or peace walker.
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>>719483141
it's literally the complete opposite, apart from the very linear intro, the mission design is extremely free and you can basically approach objectives however you like, only a few story related missions force you down specific paths like RDR2 does. Most of the story is told through guard conversations and audiotapes, there's quite a lot of optional cutscenes too
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So if they make more remakes Peace Walker is next right?
>MGS1 would require way more work
>MG1 and 2 would require WAY more work
>MGS2 is pointless without doing MGS1 first, MGS4 as well

Peace Walker is next in the timeline unless PO gets canonized. PW is relatively modern but held back by the PSP, so you can add Delta/TPP elements
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>>719477595
>>719482389
Big Boss' fall is a more subtle one - Big Boss created Outer Heaven because he was tired of soldiers being used as expendable tools for political purposes, but then he helps create a idol of Big Boss and uses him as an expendable tool for his own purposes, throwing him aside when he needs someone to take the fall for him.

Brainlets wanted Metal Gear Solid V: Revenge of the SIth, when Big Boss murders younglings for retarded reasons and screams at the sky like an edgelord
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>>719472234
I CAN'T SNEAK
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>>719486049
Imagine the red lip mod...
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>>719478797
Plisken was such a KINO character. Shame he never returned in the later games.
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>playing extreme
>missed the shotgun in the cave
>fighting the pain
>last manual save was the base right before ocelot

do I need to reset? There are NOT enough grenades to deal with his bullshit bee armor. I never remembered having trouble with this boss, it doesn't help the tranq gun fucking sucks for bosses in the remake
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>>719476112
it was konamis fault!
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>>719473573
>playing mgs on a keyboard
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>>719474483
Big Boss is the way more compelling character if you don't consider anything beyond MGS3 canon
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>>719472234
How do people get through the slog? Im at the bomb expert part on mgs2 and it fuckin sucks. Is it just me? Its been months and I havent picked it up since.
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>>719485960
>Brainlets wanted Metal Gear Solid V: Revenge of the Sith
>All of the trailers that got people hype and looking forward to the game were just that
I just don't think la creatividad knew best here. I know you'll bring up MGS2 trailers showing off Snake and Cyborg Ninja but there's a reason 2's story is more impactful against V's despite trying to pull the same bait and switch.
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>>719472234
give it to me straight, what the fuck was his motivations and goals?
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>>719489732
>there's a reason 2's story is more impactful
Yeah, because MatthewMatosis and Superbunnyhop explained the game to you a decade after it came out
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They fucked up the timing of the song during the ladder set-piece.
>https://x.com/HEITAIs/status/1962196791887311224
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>>719490758
the new recording of Snake Eater slaps, Cynthia Harrell still has it 20 years later, but my autism hates that they changed the animations, the original was so perfectly timed with the visuals on screen
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>>719488529
Stun grenades also affect them. I don't play on Extreme precisely because of the boss fights, though.
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>>719490758
this looks like some 50/60hz code fuckery
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>>719490523
Nice try but no, played on the non-substance version on the PS2 back when that was all I had. I was one of those people who still wished they could play as Snake but hey I came around to it by actually playing the videogame as opposed to chanting LUDOKINO to condition myself into liking the story like people would for V for example.
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>>719490220
He was executing BB's will. Ocelot never had any personal motivations. Only time you actually see his real self is at the very end of MGS4 in the last fight.
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>that is NOT solid snake
you sure about that?
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>>719490220
Liquid Ocelot: taking control for the sake of Outer Heaven.

Ocelot: destroying the Patriots to revive Big Boss who would presumably reestablish Outer Heaven (but didn't).
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>>719474483
big boss is just too derivative of snake
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>>719491594
Yeah I'm sure. He was never in Foxhound so he doesn't have a Foxhound call sign.
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any chance for an actual new game soon? (no spin off, no gachashit)
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>>719491945
probably depends on delta's reception
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>>719474483
Kojima wanted it to end at every single game.
One of the reasons 3 is a prequel is because he had no fucking clue how to deal with 2's ending and 4 proved it.
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>>719476050
real
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>>719481882
999 maybe
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>>719491945
I highly doubt it. We are definitely getting that rumored MGS remake, though.
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>>719492519
I feel like that's well known. I wanted to point out that for some reason Kojima has such a vitriolic feeling to Solid that firing squad was the original way he was going to bow out and his staff had to beg him not to do that. So instead of firing squad we get him needing to blow his own brains out after a whole game of him being old, everyone moving on from him etc - promptly followed by a fakeout and exposition that says "Well you're still dying sooner rather than later but you're allowed to take it easy now I guess."
Big Boss suffered too but I don't think he's had his own author hate him in that way lmao.
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>>719493582
Venom suffered more. Not a single friend left in the end. Solid didn't even know who he really killed.
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>>719481882
Silent Hill gave me the same feeling at points.
I'd say Danganronpa 1 and 2 sometimes have a similar feel, but it's just in passing.
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>>719476381
>but there's no big climax to any of it
There are multiple climaxes. First is when he throws The Boss's bandana away and embraces the title of Big Boss. Then when he agrees to arm ZEKE with a nuke instead of disposing of it. Finally when he gives his whole ass speech to MSF at the end. But it all flies over people's heads because parallel to it there are cassette tapes where Big Boss says he believes in Santa Claus, or Kaz/Paz date side ops, or the dorkness that remained from Snake Eater, or the rather merry nature of MSF - it's just hard to believe that this guy can be evil after all. So you have Ground Zeroes to not only destroy any hopes for a peaceful future but to mentally scar the player specifically. The Big Boss's fall had already happened by that time
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>>719472276
is it just me or does the movement feel slower and more sluggish? like even for the dodge roll he does a little wind up for it, kinda ruins it for me. the cqc is also slower. why tf did they nerf him like this?
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Kojima always said he hates Snake's Revenge but he basically stole every single plot point from it in his later games.
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>>719472276
This it's fine, most of the gripes are easily fixable things like model weirdness and off lighting/colors. It has more content than Master Collection. The only 2 real big issues is price(no denuvo and already piratable so not that bad unless consolefag) and the unreal performance
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>>719473573
I really cannot tell if this is a falseflag because of how poorly it's argued.
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>>719476112
Do you feel it?
The Missing Chapter?
Like it was always there, but isnt now?
like
A Phantom Pain
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>>719490220
Literally Pretending to be Retarded to fool the Patriots
And it actually worked
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>>719474483
This guy gets it, Solid Snake is the greatest video game character. Say what you will about 4 but man playing that game really makes you feel for Snake, he really did have a tough life...

Plus I'm a big fan of Otacon so Solid gets bonus points for their relationship too
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>>719494739
By TPP the story has gotten so dark and melancholic. There are still silly things like the hamburger tapes but it hardly matters in comparison with what you witness. The fall of motherbase, the slaughter in the hospital, the paz storyline, devils house, killing your own men, Hueys trial, Kaz becoming a shell of himself.

MGSV adds so many layers to the whole story it's insane.
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>>719495791
>MGSV adds so many layers to the whole story it's insane.
The plot is fucking retarded. It's beyond nanomachines retarded.
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>>719494987
I'm not going to defend the shittiness of UE5 but Konami deserves blame for lazy optimizing and a cynical "look at all these polygons! Upscaling will fix it!" approach which is also probably why they chose UE5 to begin with. Konami just can't hack it.
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>>719472234
My laptop can't run it along with Gears Of War so i finally said fuck it and decided to buy a PS5. I haven't bought a console in years but i'm tired of having to tweak my settings or wonder if my machine will be able to run the game decently. I just want to play
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>>719491945
>any chance for an actual new game soon? (no spin off, no gachashit)

MGR's writer is still at Konami and said he would love to return to his original MGSR script at some point
Delta's producer said that MGSΔ was used to train younger developers on how to make a new Metal Gear
PlatinumGames is back working with Konami for Guy Savage Δ, how likely is it that you would hire them ONLY for a minigame?
Quintin Flynn changed his profile picture to Raiden and is retweeting Delta shit despite not being involved with the game at all.

Make of this information what you will.
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>>719498273
>game where you can cut anything
that will be shit or good if it ever happens
and i bet it will be shit
>you can cut anything
>but not those things
shit game then
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>>719474483
>Never forget Kojima wanted to end 4 and by extension the saga to the tune of Solid and Otacon facing down a firing squad.
i think it's really funny that he wanted it with "Here's to you, Nicola and Bart" in the background, a song about two italian anarchists being wrongly accused and executed...except we now know even their lawyer believed them to be guilty.
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>>719498423
The reason it got cancelled is because they couldn't figure out how to make a game where you could cut anything work properly, the tech was there, the story was there, they just couldn't figure out how to make a game out of "cut anything" since it can just cut through any game design. It also apparently ran incredibly poorly.

So in the end, the game itself ended up getting cut, LOL
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>>719478272
it's kinda weird how he's the protagonist of the saga but you only play as him in what, 3 games?
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>>719474483
>Never forget Kojima wanted to end 4 and by extension the saga to the tune of Solid and Otacon facing down a firing squad.
what would the context of such an ending have been?
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>>719498946
>it's kinda weird how he's the protagonist of the saga but you only play as him in what, 3 games?

5 games if you count the msx games which Kojima clearly does. MGS1 was always a weird one because it's really the west's first introduction to proper Metal gear, but it's also the third game in the series with Snake coming out of "retirement".

Honestly I wish Kojima had the chance to make proper MG1 and 2 remakes himself, it's such a huge part of the story lore wise but they're old games made for a japanese computer. Though I imagine Kojima himself finds that quite funny since MGSV literally ends with Venom Snake putting MG1 into an MSX, and that's how his 25+ year old series literally fucking ends lol.
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When I was young playing the original MGS3, I loved the boss and would over the years bring up how she's one of the best female characters in gaming. Now after replaying Delta, I hate her, she feels like the most mary sue girlboss character ever. "Oh every character fears me, I changed the tide of WWII while pregnant, I was actually the first person in space, a woman, won't see that in the history books." What happened? Most woke slop today is less egregious.
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>>719500024
>Taking the Boss literally

Rookie mistake, she's a saint'like religious figure. People worship her because she's essentially the jesus of metal gear, a martyr that died for our sins.
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mgs delta is tasty when there isn't a little bitch in your ear telling you it's nasty
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>>719472234
i beat mgs2 on european extreme for the first time yesterday. i'm never doing that shit again.
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>>719498891
> It also apparently ran incredibly poorly.
i forgot of that part
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Im having a blast with Delta. This is kinda my dream of what I wanted a modern MGS to be. I dont like the open world direction MGSV went. Items in that game arent the spinning collectibles. Here, the graphics are great and modern but its kept all the charm of the old games. This is what I want.
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>>719488940
He's compelling for one story, MGS3, and then after that he doesn't have much going on. Which is kinda similar to Solid Snake honestly but I think Snake is more suited to being a recurring protagonist since he isn't fated to be a child solder using nuclear super villain.
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Is there a right, canonical way to play delta again? I feel like as a kid I would just alert and kill indiscriminately, but now I feel like I should attempt to achieve something higher.
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>>719491945
>>719498273
>>719498891
A Raiden game where he goes to save Sunny and loses his body in the process sounds kino.
Just tweak the idea of the cut anything concept. That mechanic didnt work so change the gameplay
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>>719498891
This is why you make so you can just cut a lot of things instead of everything. I mean you can't cut literally anything in Revengeance either.
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Hilarious that Portable Ops, Peace Walker, and Phantom Pain are all games trying to tell the same "BB is evil now" story and all failing to do a better job than the ending of Snake Eater.
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>>719495791
>By TPP the story has gotten so dark and melancholic
I always felt that it was kinda melancholic but now I see it even more.
I mean it's just a complete shitshow of nothing going right and the small wins that exist are loomed over by the next, bigger shitshow.
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>>719500024
that's the point, The Boss was a one (wo)man army who was always right about everything but she was fucking terrible at explaining herself and every single one of her followers was deeply autistic, so a call for world peace somehow became a call for endless war.
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>>719501296
It's because there's nothing to add to that story after 3. Why he became the guy from Metal Gear 1/2 is conveyed entirely in that game. All that's left is boring logistics questions for shit like how did he start his army, how long did he work here or there, when exactly did he get into child soldiers, when did he come back for Foxhound, etc. I thought V had an interesting idea for evil Big Boss by having him make doppelganger at least but it wasn't really told in an compelling way. Part of things Kojima doesn't want Big Boss to be evil though
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>>719500941
How I played was
>no special camos, even my preorder ones
>listen/watch all codecs
>traq when I can, kill if its more convenient
>restarts, deal with alerts when I trigger them
>try to break out of comfort zone tactics, want to use most my equipment and items
>kill bosses
>shoot frogs/ducks I see, search a little if I really want to, but will do a thorough search on NG+
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>>719501923
>restarts
*No restarts
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>>719474208
Hey moron, because you're upscaling with FSR your rendering resolution is actually less than 720p native. Don't know if you knew that, and if you didn't notice (you're on a 1080p monitor still which tells me you're a poorfag) then hopefully now you do.
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>>719474483
Raiden is the most compelling character.
Both Snakes are comfort characters. Venom was going to be something different but is still far too derivative and that's the point. The entire character just poofed into existence in a retcon.
Raiden actually has the most character development of all of them, and if he seems like an asshole at points it's because he is, because he's a character and not an audience surrogate.

His dialogue especially with Rose is much higher quality than any Snake dialogue.
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>>719478797
>snake
Umm, that was pliskin, retard
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Any good mods so far for Delta?
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first time gaymer here
just finished MGS3
great game, actually was surprised I enjoyed the cutscenes since everyone complains about them online
Volgin boss fight is a PS2 era dog shit boss fight where it’s obvious, back in the day, you had to re-do this fight a few times until you “figure” it out
garbage
oh also the singing when climbing the ladder sounded weird as fuck unlike the intro which sounded peak

other than that, I’m trying to find out which game to play next to understand the story better.
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>>719474483
Copy pasting my replies to that question

MGS3 is a really great game but it's chocked full of fan service, things that may not necessarily align with what a more "serious" fan might have expected from 'the Big Boss origin story'
It's easily the best "normie" tier game in the series though, one that regular every day people can absorb much better than the other ones.

Big Boss being literally just Solid Snake again but in retro paint makes him derivative in a paradoxical way. 'Naked Snake' feels more like Kojimas own wish fulfillment to put Snake in a different retro environment more so than Naked Snake being a new and interesting character on his own.
I will always choose David over Jack because MGS1/2/4 and the fact that Solid Snake always defeats Big Boss, but Big Boss just has far more depth to explore with his storyline

Overall it's a wash, they are both technically the same 'Snake' no matter how you look at it. People take their idealized version of Big Boss that exists in their head and then project it onto the origin story video game where hes acting like a retarded spaz who is completely out of the loop of his own mission for 8 hours straight (just like Solid Snake was)

He got duped, used, bamboozled by his government, his team, his lover, and his mentor. He became the stoic and super badass mega hero off screen, and during portable spin off games that failed to turn him into the bad guy that he was supposed to become. MGSV further deepened the problem by pushing BB's war crimes off onto ANOTHER clone so that he can ride off into the sunset

Big Boss is a Gary Stew, Naked Snake was a spaz. Solid Snake is a torture-kino chad who defeats the Patriots after BB created them.
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Metal Gear 1+2 Remake will give us the Big Bad Boss heel turn we've always wanted to see.
It's gonna come over 20 years late........but it will come.....
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>>719504097
>Metal Gear 1+2 Remake will give us the Big Bad Boss heel turn we've always wanted to see.
but...that's Venom Snake...
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>>719503356
Honestly, you fucked up
Release order or bust

>>719504281
You know what I'm talking about. Monologues, codec calls, bread crumb trails. Fully voice acted.
Venom Snake is the midway boss fight.
Big Boss is the final boss fight.
Gray Fox.
You know you want it. You know it's what MGS fans have always wanted.
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I thought you guys said The Boss was ugly and unattractive? She looks better here in Delta than she did in the OG.
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>>719476112
>realize i never saw bb turn into a villain
>realize i never saw him train kids into becoming murders
>realize i never saw him go nuclear
Maybe in a few years you’ll also finally realize that was the entire point of the fucking story and the series as a whole- the legend is nowhere close to the actual reality
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>>719504728
She makes me horny as hell. Lori Alan has always sounded sex, but her PS2 model was always awkward looking.
Now.....bonified beach cougar teacher sex.
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Would you help her finally watch the 1953 film The War of the Worlds while she cuddles you?
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the puzzles in ghost babel are so shit
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>>719490883
>the new recording of Snake Eater slaps, Cynthia Harrell still has it 20 years later,

easy on the copium
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>>719472276
My only complaint is that it doesnt feel snappy like the older version. Otherwise yea its great.
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>>719504782
no, the game is just unfinished shit, chapter 3 isn't the only thing missing in here and it fucking show
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>>719472276
Good take, desu.
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Just beat the Remake in Legacy mode. Loved it just as much as I did when I first played it and the ending is still one of the best. Thought the game looked great but I can tell the legacy filter does help a lot. Gonna do a lethal run in the new gameplay style. It should not have been 70 though
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Things that annoy me about delta:

1) There's only the upgraded controls and the original controls with some additions like crouch walking, there's no subsistence controls that would've been a blend of both which some people might consider the better of both worlds. I only care about this because the updated controls have some problems though.

2) The cover system less reliably activates, and it's sticky, and you can't CQC when stuck to cover. It's not like how it originally was where you can just let off the control stick and CQC. You have to unfuck yourself off the wall or tree or whatever.

3) You can't shoot in front of snake without aiming, which automatically points to the direction of the camera. So let's say I'm running towards a guard on alert I can't just press a button to pop him to either animation stun him with lethal ammo to finish with non lethal CQC, or kill him. I don't even know if there's an option to aim in front of snake but that would be more annoying 99% of the time and it just needs unaimed shooting.
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I beat MGS4 for the first time yesterday, thoughts on the game? I didnt like the first couple of hours, sneaking in the middle of war was kinda awkward but things started to get better in act 2. The bossfights were a highlight for sure the B&B were super fun and lots of tools to mess around. Now for the story I have no idea where most of the ''twists'' came from, most of them were really stupid and some treated as this big revelation but it was pretty fucking obvious. Still, cool game VERY 2000s and hopefully Konami finds a way to bundle with the Master Collection vol 2 because iw would be nice to play on a decent resolution and framerate.
Now I'm thinking if I go straight to Peace Walker or not, i've been playing the series for the first time nonstop for the past month, might check Delta first i dunno.
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>>719474578
No. MGS starts at MGS1.
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>>719476112
Part of that is Konami. The other part is Kojima focusing on the Fox Engine graphics for like 2-3 years.

It's probably why him using Decima is a good thing: It's not his problem on building the engine whizz-bang features. He just has to use them.
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>>719474483
>never actually put any of the heinous shit he'd later get up to in any of the games you play as him
Yeah, they kind of repeat the same note again and again "This is where he becomes Big Boss, no this is where he really became Big Boss, this is actually the moment he became Big Boss" the marketing for V showed a much more compelling story than the one we actually got.
>>719488940
I think it's cheating a little bit. Knowing where he ends up does a big service to the character, and if you're judging him purely on MGS3 alone and not taking into account what you know based off of playing 1 and 2 then he's suddenly much more bland.
I mean its still a powerful note to end on, but I can't help but feel like it only lands as hard as it does because I played 1 and 2 before it. It's like seeing the moment he gave up on his country. But everything leading up to that, does he really have moments that are as strong as the ones Solid had in 1? Not to me at least, I think Solid Snake is a much more engaging character.

I think the strongest Big Boss has ever been in terms of characterization is Peace Walker, and I'm not even a big fan of that game. But to me at least he feels distinct from Solid Snake there.
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>>719505351
>handholding

She really did love him. I wish GILF Eva in MGS4 could have met Big Boss one last time.
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>>719505195
you would not survive
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>>719507465
Not sure I'd plan to, family
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Just tried the MGS3 remake. You can't invert the x axis so its unplayable for me on controller. Mouse and keyboard controls feel so weird since I've never played a MGS game like that. 0/10. RDR2 had the same issue. I know my brain is a bit backwards, but just put the option in the game like everyone else.
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>>719500851
People bitch about it, but it's the ONE good thing Konami did: a 1:1 port of the game. Similar to REbirth 1.

REbirth 2-4 fucking suck because they changed the gameplay and scenario up (I'm still upset at REbirth 3 cutting like 40% of the original scenario out) while 1 was just Biohazard 1 with some new additions (that were shitty, Lisa Trevor is never mentioned again, even in the future entries).

People whine about that, but honestly: Don't break what isn't broke. Just pretty the graphics up and I'm fine with that.
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>>719507561
doesn't steam have an input manager where you can customize all that?
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>use this face paint for the final boss because it blends in the best
>have to watch ladyboy snake put a bullet in the boss
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>>719472276
Delta looks fine
Let people enjoy things
You’re a loser for caring
It’s just a video game
Stop nitpicking
The original was always bad
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I think it's genuinely insane how Delta needs a 4070 minimum and to be played at 720p upscaled for 60fps

I can't even grasp that level of bad for a game that has segmented levels that are all tiny for todays standard. I genuinely do not understand how you fuck up this bad. This is not some next gen ps6 game we're talking about. How is it even possible to fuck up this much? is there just legitimately no optimization at all?
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>>719507561
>You can't invert the x axis
Autism. If I press a stick left, I want it go left. If I press up, I want it to go up. We need to start forcing this on you weirdos until it gets through to you
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>>719501778
>Part of things Kojima doesn't want Big Boss to be evil though
Because people LOVE 3. If people didn't take 3 to heart, I feel like the Big Boss wanking wouldn't have happened. You can see the same thing with the Boss in Peace Walker. Literally Strangelove loves her to the point of turning her into an AI that decides to nuke the world or not.
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>>719507695
>seething this hard
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I should continue MGSV. I know people have a lot of good things to say about the gameplay, but for whatever reason it didn’t connect with me. Maybe I’m just that averse to open world games
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>>719507748
i feel like doing that just has the opposite effect ultimately
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>>719503356
You fucked up. You should've gone MGS1->2->3->4->5/Peace Walker->6/Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain.
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>>719507806
konami ue5 remakes are serious business, do not joke
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>>719507408
She's the best part of the Remake because her role as femme fatale actually works flawlessly now
She's no longer an awkward PS2 model with a head that doesn't match with her body trying to be sexy
She feels and looks so real, every single one of their romance scenes are now packed with the sexual tension the original was always going for. She's undeniable, her electricity is overwhelming

I love my Eva wife.
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>>719507591
The thing is we already have the bluepoint remaster and MGS3 is lo-fi by today's standards but the art was 10/10. It seems like you could've refreshed more while also only doing things that are low risk and can't ruin the game. The best example would be new maps because they could be alternate paths even if you didn't like their level design. Or just expand or add one new era between every major cutscene and it shouldn't drag down the story pacing too much.
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>>719503356
>oh also the singing when climbing the ladder sounded weird
did they fuck with the song?
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>>719507947
She'll never be real thoughbeit
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>>719508014
>REEEEEE WHY DIDN'T THEY NEEDLESSLY CHANGE IT AND PAD OUT THE GAME????
Kill yourself. I'm not joking. Eat my shit
Get off /v/ forever
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>>719503356
release order
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>>719507667
I looking at that now, because I remember it working in RDR2, but its not working. Of course, I bootlegged this so I added it as a non-steam game and flipped the axis, but it doesn't work. I noticed the steam overlay isn't working, so maybe if I can get that to work, then my settings will apply ingame. FUCK KONAMI
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>>719504281
Supposedly, the theory is that MG1 is Venom who dies to Solid with the makeshift flamethrower. 2 is when actual Big Boss is back and then he "dies" in that only for the "Solid" saga of 1's ransom demand and 4's reveal of his actual body to come back.

It also explains the burned body Eva throws herself onto in 4, that's Venom more than likely.
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>>719507947
"I love my Eva wife."

>t. Big Boss
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>>719507947
>I love my Eva wife.
She fucks other men, anon...
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>>719507108
Wrong
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>>719507674
it's what she would have wanted
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>>719508149
That's okay. She is a lying triple crossing spy anyways (and a shitty one who failed to notice that she had been duped by Adam)
But it's okay, she's firmly the cutest and the sexiest Metal Gear girl ever now.

>>719508283
She's the (surrogate) mother of Solid Snake, you watch your mouth.
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>>719507947
She's now an awkward PS4 model
Too bad they didn't make her look like this.
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>>719508283
yeah but I'm still her number 1
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>>719508164
Because its $70 and this is the 4th release of this game. If you are replaying this it probably hasn't been long since you played the original. I only bought it to support the franchise and try out the new controls. If it was just a graphics upgrade I wouldn't have gotten it.
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>>719508434
Proof?
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>>719508243
There was this guy called solidus snake that was missing the correct eye for that corpse. You might remember him now
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>>719508397
Your pic looks like shit. Looks like she has down syndrome.

She looks best when she is wearing her Russian uniform.
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Metal Gear 1 remake has potential to be pure paranoia fuel, isn't it? Pretty much everyone you meet there is either an enemy or an enemy pretending to be a friend. I feel like there's some good potential with Big Boss fucking with you with coded calls too. Him doing real-time codec calls about Santa Claus to fuck with you during a boss fight with shotgun kid or whatever would be great, especially if you need to use your ears.
>inb4 Metal Gear 1 BiBo is Venom
It's a deluxe edition twist, he either didn't make it in time or survived and fucked off to do his own thing in Africa to build Miller and Ocelot AI pods to be his codec friends and to rally giga niggas to fight against the high tech patriot machine turning free PMCs into governmental puppets or some shit. Also it's very important to witness Otacon cucking Huey in HD graphics.
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>>719508225
Me again, this works. Had to run steam as admin for overlay to work and the axis is flipped.
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>>719508243
MG1 Big Boss/Venom died via rocket to the face.
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delta looks like every other ue5 game, no effort into the lighting and they all look like they were made by the same guy, looks very much interchangeable with SH2 and wukong
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>>719508880
>no effort into the lighting
as opposed to what, piss filter?
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>>719508614
i respectfully disagree. this is a completely random pic I found googling mgs3 delta and it still looks better.
she has video game face in the remake but it clashes with the rest of the graphics.
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>>719508880
>with SH2
I don't know, but I definitely feel like bloober put effort into that remake.
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>>719508880
This. Each RGB value of blue was removed one by one by hand then focus group tested to produce the perfect yellow effect of mgs4
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>>719508880
people want total homogenization
pretty sure the same people worked on Oblivion Remake and the FFX remake lol.
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>>719508956
I respectfully think you need to close this thread and stop shitposting my wife. Nigger.
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>>719508387
Para medic mogs
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>>719508880
The legacy filter makes it look somewhat better
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Death Stranding filled the gap MGSV left. But it's not like I want to hate V, conceptually and aesthetically I really like it, Sings of the Father might be the best theme in the series. But it barely even feels like a game. Somehow it manages to make Revolver Ocelot boring.
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>>719509267
I liked MGSV Ocelot more than the one in MGS3
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>>719509169
never gonna happen bud. she's a hog
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>>719507947
Agreed. I have a good imagination so MGS3 it still works, but now shes super pretty and I dont need to "imagine" anymore, shes actually just irresistible
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>>719509446
Cute. Go and shitpost about something else now
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>>719509365
Terrible taste
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>>719509598
I'm not shit posting. She looks like Ethan Klein's wife lol
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>>719508614
>She looks best when she is wearing her Russian uniform.
Holy based. I am kneeling as hard as I possibly can.
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habsburg chin
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>>719507708
>is there just legitimately no optimization at all?
Correct. Here's hoping some major patches are on the way, but given how hard they fucked up I kind of doubt we'll get much more than some bug fixes. The Konami of old no longer exists.
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I love my wifes chin and perfect tits
Gain testosterone and any semblance of taste

https://files.catbox.moe/x2cc5d.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/oxyfh1.jpg
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>>719472234
When I saw the trailer for Smile, I couldn't stop laughing because it reminded me of this faceapp filter.
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For me, it's honestly

2 > 1 > 4 > 3

Fuck 5
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>>719494953
He didn't hate it, he saw it and wanted to do a proper Metal Gear sequel.
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>>719509883
I can barely understand it, honestly. The levels are so small, there's no forced RT shit, there's no advanced shit really at all. There are better looking games with way bigger levels that use some form of RT that will run 60fps using DLSSQ on a 3060/3070

It's like they didn't even try. It's genuinely grim how poorly it performs.
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>Playing MGSV, find myself missing the tighter level design and indoor areas of old MGS
>Playing Delta, find myself missing the openness of MGSV

And yes, I will once again use this chance to bitch about how Ground Zeroes felt like they found the perfect sweetspot between new and old, and then TPP was mostly just big open empty areas
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>>719507591
>Don't break what isn't broke.
They did break it though that's why it flopped.
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>>719509169
>>719509598
>>719509813
It's crazy how fast the nude mod came out. I already overlayed her on top of my fleshlight with UEVR. Glad I got a quest 3
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I am the biggest metal gear fan of all time and played mgs3 snake eater 12 times through subsistence 8 times and then the HD collection 100% every game. Should I purchase delta deluxe?
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>>719510337
GZ still felt too limited for me. They had something better going on with TPP being a sandbox merc sim.
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>>719510441
depends. If you last playthrough was the last time you could play the game and not get bored, I wouldn't get it.
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>>719510441
If you're that crazy about MGS3 and don't mind playing essentially the same game then I'd say yes.
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>>719510340
t. coping poorfag
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>>719510602
What?
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>>719510441
If you actually liked the original there's a good chance you won't like the new one because it spits on it. It controls worse(if you're a veteran), sounds worse, and has really annoying differences.
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>>719510337
No way, MGS3 is perfect and tight. Level design is wound tight. Pacing is incredible, you're always moving forward and upwards to the north. It's basically perfection in stealth espionage.

Ground Zeroes was a good teaser, that base was phenomenal, but TPP overworlds failed to capture that same level of tightly wound design by constantly kicking you out to the helicopter and reinfiltrate the areas again. TPP would have been better with smaller, more focused and strict level design. One infiltration after another paced with cutscenes rather than mission objectives scattered across the map and audio tapes.

>>719510420
Lmao you filthy American dog. I would never go that far because it's just beyond the point of no return
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I'm surprised i haven't seen any threads of zoomers and newcomers getting filtered by The End
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>>719510337
I just want to play 4 because it's only ever had one release on the ps3 and it has unique features that were downgraded in sequels and never done in a MGS game ever again. I had to rush through it on a borrowed ps3. I just want to fuck around in act 1 & 2 and skip the cutscenes.
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>>719510567
>>719510585
I would have gotten Collectors but the vinyl is the only good part. I'm EU and the bust does look better but not worth 300 euros
>>719510737
I had the controls locked down (did euro extreme, did the boss using only cqc), but it has been so long I could probably adjust. My main concern was them censoring shit
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>>719510836
is your pc good enough to emulate it?
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>>719510820
I don't even think zoomers are playing this
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>>719510820
The biggest filter with The End was always the shitty fucking vanilla camera, the Subsistance camera makes it significantly easier, as does the improved Delta controls
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>>719510737
schizo retard lmao
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>>719510993
I have 200 hours in MGSV.

Delta looks better.
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>>719507591
it's not bad but comparing it to REmake is fucked
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>>719510869
They censored some stuff but that's not a big deal imo. As for the controls and how it plays I just prefer the original. I went back to the PS2 version and IMMEDIATELY I felt like it was a much better game in literally every way. It was kind of surreal, it felt more new than the new game.
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Child enslaving war monger btw
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>>719510906
I never thought to google if this was a thing, I suppose so. I'll watch a guide
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>>719511049
>it felt more new than the new game
How many weeks are you gonna shitpost this game?
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>>719511019
MGSV is 10 years old
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>>719472234
What scenes would you parody if there was a Metal Gear Raiden Delta?
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>>719511049
interesting
I actually expected the opposite and it'd be too easy due to fluid controls
I think I'm gonna have to try it f it. I'm so thirsty for metal gear content and can make my own very autistic judgements
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>>719510772
There's nothing really stopping them from making a MGS with a similar structure to 3 just with bigger maps and areas, 3 already has a few bigger open areas and they're definitely when the gameplay is at its best.
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>>719511121
do it m8, rpcs3. runs very well on modern machines.
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>>719511076
Based
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>>719511196
Raiden literally showed up in Ground Zeros on an extra op so probably something to do with that.
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>>719510337
The issue is that it's hard to sustain that. GZ is great and Camp Omega is great, but much of the base is sort of superfluous and easy to completely ignore unless the area is reused for multiple objectives/missions which is what GZ does. Now multiply GZ by a reasonable number (say 5 or 6). Even with different objectives how do you keep that fresh?

TPP's solution was to make more smaller bases/camps to emphasize unique features (the airport, the camp where Kaz is held prisoner being at steep elevation, the mansion, the oil refinery, OKB Zero's linear checkpoints, the cave system with the Honeybee, the openness of the base where you find Huey, etc). No doubt some of this was to accommodate the open world, but I'm guessing a bunch of Camp Omegas would be harder to keep diverse without empty gimmicks than people think. Camp Omega being a loading-free Super Groznyj Grad is its gimmick, and I don't know if that would work for an entire game even if TPP could've used at least one.
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>>719511225
It feels slower and more annoying to do stuff.

>>719511134
https://fitgirl-repacks.site/metal-gear-solid-delta-snake-eater/
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>>719511302
I refuse to get in the grass because Im not taking that camo off
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>>719505195
the boss in not to be sexualized ever filthy zoomer
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>>719511234
Yeah, instanced stages with transitions and loading screens inbetween, but extremely detailed areas with good encounter design.

I want Metal Gear 1+2 more than anything. There really isn't much of a path forward for a new Metal Gear game without first reintroducing kids to Solid Snake.
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>>719511470
>nooooo don't sexualize the SEXY MOMMY who shows off her PERFECT MILKERS and talks about a snake slithering up her body
Joy had sex. Joy is for sex. Just because she's strong, doesn't mean she wasn't a woman.
She wanted to be remembered as a woman, not just a soldier.
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>>719511580
>without first reintroducing kids to Solid Snake.
aren't the clones sterile?
tho it'd be funny to have Snake raising kids at the ripe old age of 53.
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>>719511698
Anon.....read the post again. Then read it again.
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>>719511580
>I want Metal Gear 1+2 more than anything
Good news: they're in Subsistence.
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>>719511758
Please stop shitposting already, good god.
You and everyone in the entire fucking world knows what I mean.
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>>719472234
Are all the people who only recently got into MGS like this?
>broo this is so cringe broo. The writing is so cringe! The voice acting is sooo bad!
>even if I like it it's only ironically broo it's so dumb
>also people commenting that V is better than 3 because the camera movement in the cutscenes makes it look more like a "modern movie"
They are literally soulless kek
>I can't let people know I enjoy something without putting a disclaimer "this is dumb and cringe!" first
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O10K7YVXpRU
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>>719506550
nah, it was clear Kojimbo backtracked the villain arc.
MG1 and MG2 Bigboss was clearly insane.
MGSV failed to bridge MGS3/PW to MG1.
It made no fucking sense that Big Boss and Kaz would train Solid Snake since MGSV showed Kaz worked with Cypher and Big Boss didn't trust Kaz.

Also somehow Big Boss got a job with FOX again by MG1. God damn thinking about it makes me seethe
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Snake vs Monkey has so much sovl that I almost feel bad for pirating delta
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>>719511960
Ranton is openly anti-Japanese racist. He openly shits all over any Japanese story, movie, game, anime, etc.
Typical Chinese racism, that's all. He pretends to be a Kojima simp but his Delta video exposed him.
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>>719511580
Metal Gear Solid is Metal gear 1 and 2
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>>719512021
and the story of MG2 just straight up makes no sense.
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>>719511580
you know MG1 and MG2 are like 4 hours at most right? even if they give it the UE5 treatment
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>>719511364
>The issue is that it's hard to sustain that. GZ is great and Camp Omega is great, but much of the base is sort of superfluous and easy to completely ignore unless the area is reused for multiple objectives/missions which is what GZ does. Now multiply GZ by a reasonable number (say 5 or 6). Even with different objectives how do you keep that fresh?

Hitman already solved this imo.

Relatively short main story
A few story related levels like the tutorial and ending of the game
A handful of really detailed levels where most of the "pure gameplay" is.
And then lots of replayablity with different side objectives in the main levels

I dislike how much of TPP just feels meandering and like the story isn't going anywhere, I would unironically prefer if the game had been shorter but with more optional missions instead. So yes I would have basically liked several Ground Zeroes stiched together but then you can have motherbase and more linear story missions between that
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>>719511960
>Yo bro, yo bro, this game is sooo cringe bro, fr no cap
>Like bro *inhales pasta*, like, like even I could write better than this bro
Humanity was a mistake
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>>719488529
It is possible, stop being a fucking bitch, smoke grenades, wp grenades, his bee aromor will disperse when he is looking for you leaving you a 3 second window to shoot him with the mk22
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How do we defeat him, Kojimabros?
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>>719511470
she let a weirdo russian mystic bust inside
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>>719512250
>middle aged man
>wears makeup and sunglasses indoors
He already defeated himself
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>>719512080
No, no it's not. You kill Big Boss at the end of Metal Gear 2 and he's a mustache twirler. I want that Big Boss.
I want to fuck up Big Boss with CQC and a flamethrower in 4K with voice acting.

>>719512109
Oh no! The old games are short and would require being reimagined! Whatever would be done about that? If only a group of developers had just remade MGS3 Snake Eater, that sort of remake would provide them a huge jumping off point for another game. Oh wait
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>>719512080
anon, the timeline goes:
MGS3
MGS Peace Walker
MGS Ground Zeroes
MGS5
MG1
MG2
MGS1
MGS2
MG Acid
MG Acid 2
MGS4

I played all of them, and it's clear MG1/2/Solid1+2/Acid1+2 have a Mission Impossible Foxhound protects the world thing going on then Kojima went crazy with 3,4,5
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>>719512250
This guy is totally fucking embarrassing though. Like an obvious geek who got bullied profusely for his nerd culture and now seethes at Chad for stealing his nerd culture from him. Yet another miserable clown with a massive false sense of authority derived from......playing video games.
He rants like an old YTer though, that's the only reason to ever click on him.
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>>719512021
cause there was never a grand plan and he just tried to have it both ways, mundane kind of fuckup
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>>719511845
It's a shitty thing to want, is all. The games already exist.
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>>719512509
Good justification for sloppy writing
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>>719512361
>would require being reimagined
They can reimagine Acid to be a third person sneaky shooty game and it would actually work. MG1 and 2 are literally "Snake sneak here to stop Metal Gear....wait how did you succeed! You were suppose to fail you fucking inferior little shit! Yes, I made metal gear to take over the world fuck you!"
"Okay, Round 2! This time my metal gear is more metal and more gear! Is that a flame thrower? "
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I feel so empty after beating MGS Delta bros. I didnt expect to enjoy it that much. Now theres truly no more Metal Gear left to play
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>Outer Heaven was a super epic mission that involved everyone in the FOXHOUND unit, and where Snake learned he was Big Boss's son
>Look inside
>Snake mogs everyone and leaves, no mention of him ad Big Balls being related.
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>>719508720
>Him doing real-time codec calls about Santa Claus to fuck with you during a boss fight with shotgun kid
Kek, I'm imagining it now, with that classic quirky autistic Naked Snake delivery to maximally irritate and exasperate you
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>>719512021
All of this can be fixed if Metal Gear 1+2 remake is competently well made/written. They can retcon what they need to to make it fit together and depict many of the things that are missing from the timeline and basically "reboot" Metal Gear as a series to better fit chronologically and systemically alongside what we all know and love, while also setting up the new generation to become hyped for the inevitable "Metal Gear Solid Remake" that would pick right up after the events of MG1+2.

>>719512559
>It's a shitty thing to want
Why is it shitty? To want the oldest game to be in line with the rest of the franchise and to actually make sense in context? People have been asking for the 1990s era game with Solid Snake that completes the cycle since I was like 13 years old, bub. I ain't the first one to ask for it.
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>>719512021
>Kojimbo backtracked the villain arc.
Not really. Even MGSV depicts him as a somewhat cold man of system. Even MGS4 calls back to this multiple times, to say nothing of MGS1.

I agree Miller is an oddity and has been since PW.
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Is there any established reason why the cobras all have literal superpowers?
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will i ruin the entire storyline if i jump into MGS1?

only played MGS3
i don’t really care if i’ve already spoiled things by playing 3 because i still want to understand how we got to where we are

basically debating between MGS1 or Peace Walker next
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>>719512662
that's all you need, just revamp the gameplay and locations
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>>719513182
PLAY IN RELEASE ORDER
Holy fuck
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>>719512940
>People have been asking for the 1990s era game with Solid Snake that completes the cycle since I was like 13 years old, bub.
Which was when? I've been telling people it's a shitty idea and that the games already exist since before PW came out.
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>>719513182
Play it in release order
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>>719513158
yes, every one of them literally have a backstory how they were weird or got their powers.
During WW2 it made sense the US Military just made a "weirdo suicide squad" instead of having them creep both the allies and nazis out
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>>719513068
Liquid is like if Vergil had absolutely no sauce.
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Hey lads.
Never played one of these.
So... release order or chronological? Already looked it up it goes 3 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2 -> 4.
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>>719513182
Release order.
If you play chronological the gameplay QoL differences will make you barf
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>>719513182
we both know you're just gonna wait until the next unreal sloppa remake comes out
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>>719499069
I think Snake and Otacon were branded as terrorists by the US Government for their meddling with the government's development of other Metal Gears like Ray.
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>>719513158
>Is there any established reason why the cobras all have literal superpowers?

They used to just be superhuman badasses who had capeshit powers because fuck you (based)
MGSV retconned some of them to have gotten their powers from VOCAL CORD PARASITES aka proto-nanomachines (cringe)
But psychics and literal ghosts are still ok apparently
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>>719513436
PeaceWalker and MG1 and 2 are pretty important
anon has the timeline>>719512402
but Acid is filler
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>>719512940
>To want the oldest game to be in line with the rest of the franchise
It already is, for the most part. OILIX doesn't make much sense with subsequent games but then again neither does Liquid in MGS2 insisting that Big Boss was in his late 50s during the LET project.

All the major stuff at Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland still applies and always has. We know what happens because subsequent games revisit their events over and over (>>719512973).
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>>719513315
>>719513457
>>719513458
ok starting mgs 1 now thanks anons
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>>719513326
it always makes me wish there was a rtcw-aesthetic game about them fighting their counterparts in the obligatory axis weirdo squad. tie it into stuff like the sabotage raids on heavy water facilities
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>>719513182
>will i ruin the entire storyline if i jump into MGS1?
No. You should have already started with MGS1 to begin with.

Release order is the correct order 100% of the time and that goes for everything ever.
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>>719513358
Liquid is a more compelling character than Discount Sesshoumaru.
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>>719513272
Uh yeah, since the days of Peace Walker and MGSV when every single game was still about Big Boss and not Solid Snake. After MGS4, people were asking what will happen next, is it really over? We had Metal Gear Solid Rising on the horizon then, and I remember specifically talking with my friend about how I really wanted to see Metal Gear 1+2 recreated or extensively referenced in the next game, so that we can see the origins of the story depicted with new graphics and sound. Then when MGSV was being teased and it seemed like it might bridge the gap with Metal Gear 1 (it pretty much did link up) people were talking about whether the game would end on a cutscene of Operation Intrude N313 or if it will be the final mission, if they will reveal Solid Snake played by David Hayter.

I was there, bro. I had the conversations myself. In the lunch room, with my brother, online, you name it.
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>>719513578
pretty fucking sure that would just be WW2 Overwatch
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>>719472234
Is it just me or is MGS3 frontloaded with alot of shit parts?

>saving sokolov from the shed
>losing your weapons and forcing you to evade soldiers unarmed
>the ocelot fight
>the cave part right after

When I first played it I remember the game not really clicking for me till you were wading through the big swamp.
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>>719513770
It's extremely cutscene and plot heavy during the first 2 or so hours yeah
After you get the tranq gun from Eva and it starts raining in the swamp, that's when the game begins and once you reach The Pain there's no more training wheels left and you're literally "in the shit" with your first Cobra down.
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How did Ocelot btfo Snake in CQC every time?
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>>719513770
The stuff between Volgin and The Boss bothers me more than anything at the start. Dragging EVA's slow hungry ass through the forest is a bigger pain than Emma ever was, to say nothing of how long that fucking motorcycle chase is.
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>>719514025
Snake has always been shit at CQC.
He didn't even use it until 4 when sneaking was getting too hard
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>>719514025
I literally went full soi mode when I saw the old lifebars in this scene. And I still think this whole fight scene is awesome even though I hate the story in 4
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>>719513436
definitely play in release order
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>>719514209
What about that time he singlehandedly took out a room full of Evas men
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I want to infiltrate Outer Heaven in 4k
I want to infiltrate Outer Heaven in 4k
I want to infiltrate Outer Heaven in 4k
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>>719513770
Yeah MGS3 is probably my favorite but the Virtuous Mission kind of sucks and I think it's a big mark against the game compared to MGS2.

The tanker prologue is one of the best openings ever, not just because it's a perfect vertical slice but also because its tonally totally different from the rest of the game, it reminds me of the Iraq intro in The Exorcist in that you can understand the story without it but it sets the stage perfectly.

Virtuous Mission by comparison is so bad, not only is it a giant exposition dump, it has very little gameplay, and worse of all you immediately go BACK to the same area after Operation Snake Eater starts, so it doesn't feel unique. It doesn't make you excited for the rest of the game. The halo jump intro is sick as fuck though.
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>>719512767
and delta flopped too so this is the actual end. A 3 remake was Konami's ace for this franchise
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Here's a pothole for you, why did Eva act like Solid and Liquid were her actual children despite being a fucking absentee mom and Eli was raised by Big Boss/Venom and Solid was raised by Miller
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>>719514501
>delta flopped
Based on what?
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>>719514572
>Solid was raised by Miller
He wasn't.
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>>719514572
Your mother is your mother, anon
She birthed those boys. Not a plothole
You simply don't get it. Talk to your mom about it.
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>>719514572
became delusional due to acute lack of big boss cock
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>>719514669
Tragic. She never loved another man.
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Do you think the Guy Savage remake was testing the waters for Metal Gear Rising 2? Both were developed by Platinum
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>>71951457
well, she was their surrogate. That must have meant something to her. I can't see why else she would go along with Zero
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>>719472276
Did they add that bullets drop? That's been fucking me. Also couldn't hit the fury with my sniper but I think that was a bug

Otherwise, good remake, almost wished they had added even more modern stuff to it, although I know people would've lost their shit if they did, so I get it. But having a 21 year old game look like a new one while still having 21 year old gameplay is probably confusing for lots of people. Still my fav game though
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>>719514826
almost certainly
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Literally every zoomer I've seen can't cope with David Hayter's voice. What's up with that?
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>>719514826
Metal Gear Rising 2 with insane new spectacle and a new cyborg ninja wearing a bandana would be absolutely peak
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>>719514908
They instinctively understand that it is wrong and long for Akio Otsuka instead.
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>>719514501
>MGR 2 is unironically the last hope for Metal Gear. Zoomers love that game
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>>719514908
They know someone who can do better. Boomers had the luxury of ignorance.
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>falls in love with a guy who habitually shits his pants in front of her
what the fuck is her problem
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Gold finger
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>>719515160
Snake......Love can bloom on the battlefield....
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>>719515204
should have left that roastie on the battlefield.
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>>719472234
Mgs3 (imho) is the one with the best trailer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR2LAIYtAm0
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>>719514826
>>719514889
If you played it you would know this wasn't the case. It was fucking shit.
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>>719515160
if you're good looking you can get away with anything
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>>719514908
zoomers today never got to experience the dark ages of video game voice acting, MGS1's voice acting was amazing for its day and still holds up pretty well imo, especially for a japanese game which often had awful dubs. David's Snake has a campy but distinctly lovable voice similar to Vergil, characters don't really have that anymore because these days people immediately go "ew" like you said
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>>719515160
>You can literally shit yourself in front of a girl and she'll still want you if you're attractive
Brutal blackpill
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>>719514025
But Snake won that fight
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>>719514572
here is another oddity, In 3 when you pick the gun to have the dual off, why are they blanks. BUT if you chose to miss ocelot (with the same one that is a blank) on purpose it acts like a real bullet when it strikes the wall
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>>719515435
Yep. Tough world, ugly dude. A woman will stand by you through a hell of a lot if she has a reason to.
That's true love. Imagine you had a problem with shitting yourself, but your wife still loved you?
Wouldn't that be great? That's the gag
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PLEASE can someone create a mod to make Ocelot's chin shorter and less pointy? I can't masturbate to him in the remake because the chin distracts me. Otherwise he would've been cute
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>>719515272
ah yes, I recall the drama over Raiden being the main character for a while. kind of interesting how that mgs2 is hailed as a masterpiece
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>>719515579
Just drown yourself, it's quicker
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wait, they remade Guy Savage?
i tought Konami had memoryholed that, but now i'm seeing that they made Bloodborne if it was DMC.
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>>719515765
We where young
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Playing Delta got me to try out the original MGS again. Man, fuck this game, it's just tedious. Call me when they remake it.
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>>719515817
Konami is coming back....they aren't back yet, but they are on the way
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>call paramedic about my food
>Liking the info but then snake asks how does it taste?
>she gives me the third degree lecture every time like some vegan bitch
Holy hell she's so annoying, it's this the entire point of being a survival medic is to actually be useful instead of pulling a rose every time
also funny coming from her considering how much of an evil cunt she ends up becoming
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>>719515817
Platinum did. Konami can't even optimize a barebones remake or put together a second Master Collection.
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>>719515890
Here's your remake bro
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>>719515939
perhaps you could get back to the mission, if you're done abusing helpless animals.
kek, that codec call sticks with me to this day.
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>>719515939
>how much of an evil cunt she ends up becoming
This was unbelievably contrived
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>>719515939
It's funny that she calls Snake a cannibal if he eats an animal, implying Para-Medic views animal lives on par with humans.
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>>719515939
If you dont want a movie loving medic gf ill take her anon
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>>719515890
I told you
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>>719515798
I did, I just wanted a screen shot lmao so many bodies been trying to go for a chicken tittle.. help me
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>>719516101
She calls Snake a cannibal for eating snakes. It's a joke. She's a joker.
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>>719516120
>converts you into a cyborg while you sleep
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>>719516101
maybe she just views snake as less than human
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So.. when are they bringing 4 off of the dead PS3?
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>MGS collection volume 2
whats in there, you think? MGS1&2 remake then if we assume they somehow manage to make 4 run on anything other than a PS3, 4 gets a remake and paired up with V?
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>>719516160
she also does that when he eats a vulture
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>>719472234
What's the best way to play MGS4? I never played it
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>>719516285
buy a used ps3 for like $40
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>>719515435
not true. you mean
>if she's attracted to you
there are hot guys who cannot get laid and fat blockheads who bang hotties.
also uhh that's a video game
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>>719516207
Peace Walker, 4, maybe Portable Ops, Twin Snakes. The ac!d games and Ghost Babel.
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>>719516207
It's got to be Peace Walker, 4 and 5. The problem, like you say is MGS4, I'm sure it CAN be done, the problem is Konami are cheap as fuck with these ports.
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>>719473090
literally what I paid for it off a key site.
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>>719516295
Solid was confirmed to be the recessive gene clone though.
How did Liquid get the dominant genes and look more like Eva than Big Boss?
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>>719516392
We should have expected Delta to run like ass after seeing how pitiful the first Master Collection volume is.
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>>719515996
I still want to know who taught snake to backflip out of a sniper's sightline like that
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>>719516523
>look more like Eva than Big Boss
All the clones and Big Boss have the same fucking face.
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>>719516285
youtube
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>>719516392
An old KojimaPro employee said on a podcast they got the game running to problem on the Xbox 360. Porting from PS3 to 360 was much easier than the reverse due to the 360 letting you allocate memory freely. The problem was really just the lack of Blu Ray, the game was simply too big and would need several DVD discs to ship on 360, business wise it didnt make sense
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>>719516537
I haven't had too much issue with Delta tbf outside of two crashes, both of which happened right at the fucking end of the game (The Boss and the shagohod, respectively.) which is really putting off my desire for a foxhound run. I'm just glad I pirated it, i'll probably buy it in a bit just so I can get my fucking MGS1&2 remake funded. fuck that Master collection runs like hot shit though - I haven't tried MGS2 yet but after trying out one I dunno if I want to.

>>719516365
>>719516392
the idea of vol.2 being MGS1&2 and then all the shitty portable games is funny and that being your modern joes entry to them is so much funnier.
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>>719516686
No problem*
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>>719516583
The funny thing is, Snake does a cool back flip in the original MGS when first encountering the tank but everybody seems to forget about that.
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>>719516595
do they?
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>>719516732
>I haven't had too much issue with Delta
I haven't either in terms of bugs but the game objectively runs like shit and is far too demanding for what it is.
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>>719516818
>twin snakes
not canon
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>>719505863
What made her into a mad scientist?
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>>719516523
they have no genetic relation to Eva. She was a surrogate
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>>719516818
Yes? It's even a minor plot point in MGS1 that Solid and Liquid look alike on top of visibly looking the same. Ditto for Solid and Solidus in MGS2.
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>>719516686
Now imagine getting it ported to PS5/Xbox/PC. It'd be a cakewalk, but they still got to do it.
These ports were clearly done as cheaply as possible, including porting MGS 2 and 3 Xbox 360/PS3 versions without any enhancements. How cheap is that. It's also insane that it's a much worse deal than just getting the Legacy Collection on PS3.
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>>719473396
I've been playing it on a rtx 2060 super + ryzen 5 3600, works perfectly fine on high settings + DLSS desu
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is Snake a natural blonde?
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>>719516986
No.
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>>719516986
He's brunette
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>poorfag spics seething that their gtx 960s cant run the game
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>>719516886
So which one of them should look asian then?
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>>719517047
None of them, because mtDNA doesn't matter.
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There's no man alive who can resist my charm
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>>719516986
yes, Solid dyes his hair
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>>719516943
I have an rtx 4060 and ryzen 5 5600x and I get jealous seeing how crisp it looks on ultra without dlss. Wish I had a better graphics card desu
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>>719516886
EVA was literally pregnant with them, they're genetically related to her retard
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>>719516873
its canon. MGS4 uses twin snakes voicework and we all know how anal kojima is about canon
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>>719514025
He stopped doing CQC for years because he didn't like doing shit Big Boss did. Even without that practice he still won.
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>>719517117
I LOVE EVA WIFE
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>>719517142
It looks almost the same on ultra for me, but maybe i'm blind
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>>719517174
anon, they were clones, so they are 100% Big Boss's DNA with 0% of Eva.

They just grew inside Eva because despite artificial wombs being a thing she used her Patriot membership to sire them herself for some fuck all reason
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>>719517283
why is LIquid blonde then?
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>>719517283
>artificial wombs being a thing
They're not a thing in the MGSverse, EVA confirmed it herself in MGS4 which is why she took it upon herself to be the surrogate mother
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>>719517174
It's stated in MGS4 that a Japanese woman's egg was fertilised and that was then implanted in EVA, that was to explain away Vulcan Ravens line to Solid Snake in MGS1 about "Blood from the East flowing through his veins".
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is cloning even a good idea?
Clearly by the work of venom it shows hard work means more than just genes, same with naked snake, without the boss mentoring him he'd just be another guy
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>>719517371
He was given all the good genes and got upset about it because he's shit where as the shitty gened autist (solid.) was kicking his ass.
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>>719517283
Arent they not perfect clones? They only have like 70 percent of big boss' dna
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>>719515890
Imagine being filtered by top tier ps1 ludokino
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okay, playing Delta, I can see why Kojimbo wanted to replace David Hayter.
Snake's voice sticks out too much and sounds artificial. You literally don't hear that type of voice anywhere else.
Everyone else sounds fine, except maybe Boss,
It was iconic growing up, but revisiting, I'm beginning to seeeeee
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>>719517461
>hard work means more than just genes
Whoa dude, I think you might have stumbled upon Metal Gear Solid 1's theme
Bravo
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>>719517514
Kiefer did not deserve the hate
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>>719517514
Get the fuck out of my face with that shit
GOOFY NIGGA
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I don't get the ending to metal gear solid V, why did he want venom to make a new outer heaven just to show up and kill him, i'm pretty sure venom would have just said alright and joined him
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>>719517371
Have you heard of hair dye
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>>719500851
blastin'
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>>719517619
He'd get more praise about it if he put the fucking work in as it is, he speaks in what, 4 cutscenes then just grunts a lot and then spent the rest of it reading lines on his couch.

>>719517514
also nah, half the fun of snake being an autistic perfect soldier is his stupid ass voice being near inhuman.
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>>719517725
as a little african kid?
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>>719517514
that's not necessarily a bad thing, it makes snake stick out more which works considering he's the main character and canonically autistic
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>>719517816
....he's British? He's tan and his hair is sunbleached btw
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>>719517539
never played it
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>>719517371
both Solid and Liquid are blonde.
It's fucking nanomachines, Kojima doesn't have to explain shit

>>719517483
not sure if a percentage was ever given, but Solidus is the only perfect copy.
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>>719517514
Kiefer doesn't sound autistic enough, all the charm is gone. I'm sorry
Also The Boss sounded very regal and good to me in MGS3. She felt like that larger than life figure.
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>never played it
Please leave
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>>719510337
i wanted an open world game, with mgs4's mercenary groups fighting each other, and dozen or so "dungeons" that were full on metal gear solid areas. those areas could be reused for dopey shit like kidnapping an important guy, or taking pictures of ghosts, or helping one faction fight the other.
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>>719517480
Didn't he delude himself into thinking he got the bad genes beforehand? We only get the confirmation that he was the superior clone after the game ends thanks to Ocelot
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>>719517990
keep crying
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>>719472276
retard
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>>719517136
Based on what? Why would he?
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>>719518063
Please play Metal Gear before discussing Metal Gear
Play in release order
Goodbye
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>>719518002
They told him he was the inferior clone when he was young... as a joke.
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i didn't understand why the Boss was subjected to radiation from an atomic bomb testing in the 50s, and they also sent a soldier in the 40s to space. Does this come up later?
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>>719518214
Why are you smug while being told to play a video game that you're (failing) to discuss
What's going on there
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>>719518103
because he didn't want people from mistaking him as Liquid. It's in the MGS1 debriefs
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>>719511364
It would be better to ditch the open world aspect entirely have multiple areas around the size and detail of Camp Omega instead of just two big ass kinda dull maps with a few locations that could've been interesting if they focused on them.
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Waiting for my health to replenish so I'm browsing this thread on the mean time
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>having a blast
>accidentally blast raikov
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>has a robot hand that can teleport people, can spawn portals out of thin air, can run forever, has the parasite suit, battle dress, is basically God
>defeated by an injured, tired rookie snake with the worst genes out of all the clones
Retarded writing
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>>719518393
Yes, Volgin blasts him every night
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>>719518330
because you were an asshole about it there fore I won't do what you ask of me, simple as
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>>719518472
Just wait for the MG1 remake
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>>719518472
It's simple, anon
Venon was no longer a protagonist

>>719518514
You have not played enough Metal Gear to reply to this user.
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>>719518581
I only played the ones that matter
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>>719518651
And you call someone else an asshole for telling you to go and play Metal Gear Solid before posting online about it
You have to be 18+ to post on this website my friend
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>>719518472
BB (realismo) told him to job to Snake to make the world think BB was dead while he worked over in zanzibar
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chat, check out this ladder.
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>>719518764
Looks thrilling
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>>719518472
>with the worst genes out of all the clones
you missed the point of Metal Gear, back to school
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>>719518472
That's how good Solid Snake is.
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>>719518581
>Venom was no longer a protagonist
Venom always was a non-protagonist that la creatividad retconned into the lore
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>>719518818
I'm noticing that there are people in this thread posting about Metal Gear who openly refuse to play Metal Gear Solid
Very strange happenings, the zoomlennial needs to respect their elders a bit more methinks
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So what do we think is next? MGS1 or 2? Or MG1 or 2? Personally I want MGS2 the same way Delta was done.
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I'm not interested in remasters and remakes. I want them to make a new game or if they insist on doing remakes at least remake the MSX games instead of remaking 1 or 2 or 4 or Peace Walker.
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>>719518907
You don't get it, dude
La Li Lu Le Lo had Venom's back the whole time
They abandoned him, he was literally a fall guy
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Ahhhhhh Konami preasu takeu me backu. Death Strandingu not selling wellu. Onegai Shimasu
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>>719518746
>And you call someone else an asshole for telling you to go and play Metal Gear Solid before posting online about it
the fact that you can't see that you were the massive asshole at first is shocking to me, you'll never get anyone to play the games you want when you're acting like that much of a cunt, but seeing as you're still crying about it, you'll just be bitching to the empty grandstands while people post their favorite games, what a sad existence
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>>719518337
But he has brown hair in the MSX games and MGS2 as well. He cuts his hair, but nothing really suggests he dyes it.
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>>719518932
Konami literally said they want the Delta games to be a good entrypoint for newcomers, remaking MGS2 without doing MGS1 first just doesn't make sense, the whole premise is built on being a sequel to MGS1.

It's either going to be PW or MGS1, most likely PW since its more modern
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>>719518818
venom snake is just a normal guy with no big boss genes him dying to solid snake is contradictory to the themes of mgs isnt it
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>>719518997
It will unironically be the opposite case
Konami president will ask Sony president if they can officially apologize to Kojima to get him and KojiPro to advise Metal Gear 1+2

>>719519065
Play Metal Gear Solid about it. You ignoramus V-babby
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>>719516276
Because the vultures were eating guard corpses, the guards in question will also condemn you for eating them in The Sorrow fight
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>>719519110
played 2 and 3 back in 06 why would I regress?
maybe I should play twin snakes :^)
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>>719519095
Neither of their genes matter, war is a conflict of ideals that neither soldier on the side of battle are actually aware of
When are you children going to play Metal Gear Solid
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>>719519090
Hmm I didn’t know that. Makes sense PW would be next and then hopefully MGS 1 and 2.
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>>719519078
He has blonde hair in the MGS1 mission briefing
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>>719519078
if he wasn't blonde, then the hair length wouldn't be a big issue.
The tapes also show him as light hair instead of dark
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Why are soldiers allowed to have mullets
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>>719519169
>maybe I should play twin snakes :^)
Okay? Do whatever you want to do
Get the fuck out of the comfy Metal Gear thread with your blatant flamebait trolling, cancer
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>>719475961
MG1 port in Subsistence is a bit shit that runs half its framerate and having sound effects from MG2 thats really out of place it also feels more stiff then the original, good thing it has going for is having sound cues for bosses healths just like in MG2 (if you are gonna play, being in elevators counts as checkpoints and its where your save last goes to same goes for MG2)
MG2 port however is excellent runs much better in fact even more better then the original version, better saving, while subjective it has changed codec portraits compared to the original's traced movie actors faces but the new ones dont have moving mouths while talking unlike the original
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>>719519309
technically speaking, Snake was a musher, not a soldier at this point in time
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>>719472234
People can shit on the remake as much as they want but man seeing some of these cutscenes again but with higher fidelity and all the extra details really does make me feel like watching it for the first time all over again.
It just looks so fucking good.
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>>719519267
>>719519292
I think that's just artistic license. Even in Twin Snakes he has brown hair during the briefing.
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>>719519309
Special forces are allowed to have all kinds of stupid hair cuts and other things
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>Go on youtube
>Retarded videos all over my feed from people I don't follow or watch
>DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN KILL THE END BEFORE YOU FIGHT LOLOLEOLEO
>DID YOU KNOW YOU COULD DO THIS THING EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO
>DID YOU KNOW OCELOT IS THE BOSS' SON?
>DID YOU KNOW IF YOU SELECT I LIKE MGS2 YOU GET RAIDEN'S MASK
Nothing new under the god damn sun.
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>>719519371
How the fuck does this look this good? Doesnt look nearly as good on my RTX 4060
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Playing MGS4 anon?
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>>719519518
Turn on legacy filter and set your global illumination to at least high
Game is lacking in color and clarity otherwise
Also make sure to tune your gamma and brightness
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>>719519519
Looks like a driver compatibility issue
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>>719519518
I'm playing on a 3060ti too and just put everything on Ultra. FPS be damned, not like i didn't play this originally on PS2 with even worst FPS.
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>>719519420
Solid has the recessive genes, it doesn't make sense for him to have darker hair than Liquid since dark hair is dominant
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>>719498273
I would honestly just prefer Revengence 2 over going back and trying to redo Rising. Revengence is already good enough as it is, Platinum would barely even need Konami to make another good one, I think.
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>>719519371
I can appreciate the fidelity but I don't care for the character models all that much. The only major advantage Delta has is everything being streamlined. It's faster to reload a checkpoint/save, it's faster to select camo. I prefer how the original looks, even, but shit performance aside Delta is more convenient.
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>>719519709
His surrogate was a japanese woman
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>>719519420
Twin Snakes isn't canon though. It takes some creative liberties that make no sense
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>>719519761
I'm fine with the character models, its not like they all look consistent throughout the entire series.
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>>719519883
Wow that's one fucking cool backflip
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>>719519883
the basics of CQC!
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>>719519883
I always thought Twin Snakes was Otacon telling the story of MGS1 to Sunny or something.
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>>719519709
The issue is that Liquid's dominant/recessive ramble doesn't make any sense regardless. It makes more sense for them to have somehow identified and isolated the "soldier genes" to be expressed in Liquid and not Solid, which is the thrust of the story anyway. Either way Solid has brown hair in every other instance in every other game.
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Make a Liquid Snake game set in the 90s with him working for the British government.
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>>719512250
Just bring up the time he recorded himself beating off. Everything else about him falls into place once you remember this.
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Well /v/? Was he right?
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>>719519883
>Twin Snakes isn't canon though.
Okay? And? Why would he cut *and* dye his hair when either one would be sufficient (though he inevitably gets mistaken for Liquid anyway)? Why did he dye his hair before and after?
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>>719520176
Absolutely
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>>719498273
Will they be able to top him?
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>>719519912
This is true; Delta Snake arguably looks more like MGS2's Snakes than MGSV's. I still don't care for the models though.
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>>719520202
Nanomachines
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>>719498273
This shit looked cooler than what we got wtf
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>>719519690
put it on high, dlss balanced and you'll be at 60 100% of the time. high and ultra are extremely similar.
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I've never liked the idea how 4 explained the supernatural powers of Dead Cells members like Vamp or how MGSV explained the Cobras powers came from those parasites or whatever.
I liked it more that they are just weird freaks that randomly got some mutant powers.
At least nothing could explain The Sorrow, there's legit supernatural stuff and Big Boss is somehow a little bit more connected to it somehow, he's the only one that can see The Sorrow, not even The Boss can see him, only feel him.
Wish they highlighted Big Boss's connection to the supernatural more
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>>719520543
I'm pretty sure The End is the only one who got the parasite retcon.
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This game is honestly a dream. I havent felt this way before for a remake. I probably consider it the best remake.
FFVII Remake felt biblical and amazing at the start, but then the bloat crept in and TIMES JANNIES,
RE4 Remake was amazing but I never had a super huge attachment to RE4 OG.
SH2 same case.

MGS Delta is the first amazing remake for a game I know like the back of my hand. And its hard to explain how it feels to play it. Its simply amazing.
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Remember when Solid Snake grew his beard out for Fortnite
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>>719520176
he was. it's too useful of a social control.
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>>719520661
Does Kojima know hes in fortnite
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>>719520626
slop eater
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>TWIN SNAKES CUT SCENES ARE SOOOOO HECKIN' UNBELIEVABLE AND OVER THE TOOK NONSENSE
>meanwhile in the first 10 minutes of mg3
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>>719509883
Not to take a bullet for these cutthroat chinks but no kidding dipshit, that's the whole point of them doing the most faithful remake in history. They're getting their sea legs.
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>>719520543
>Wish they highlighted Big Boss's connection to the supernatural more
That's what V seemingly could have been but it was just another rugpull

>>719520626
Based as fuck. I pretty much agree. This is the best remake because it fits an MGS player like a glove and the changes are really natural while maintaining near perfect authenticity
The game is more immersive than it has ever been, and MGS3 is ALL about immersion. Scene is the theme of the game for a reason, and the Scene of Delta is simply dazzling.

I hope Kojima plays it and and answers Konami's call when they eventually come to apologize
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>>719520543
There is still supernatural stuff in the world of Metal Gear. Psycho Mantis, Sorrow, etc. I kinda like that some of it is explained later, like Vamp and The End. Some of it may seem supernatural at first, but isnt. I like the mystery where it kinda implies you arent sure what is truly supernatural, and what is super high tech. I like that mystery.
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>>719513182
It doesn't really matter anon. The only game that I think is especially poor-suited to being played 1st, or on its own, is MGS2. I have no idea what someone would make of MGS2 without having played MGS first.

MG and MG2 are pretty good, come to those later. And if you play quite a few games in the series, consider checking out the Acid games or VR Missions. It's all great!
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>>719520785
>Needing to create a 1:1 reproduction of a 20 year old game in a preexisting engine that runs like ass to "get their sea legs."
They deserve to be thrown overboard and left to fucking drown.
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i liked the pachislot models better
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>>719520607
Both the Pain and The End powers were from parasites, The Fear was just a dude who could contort his bones more, and The Fury is just a dude in a flame suit, except when he explodes and turns into a couple of flaming heads, guess he had a bit of supernatural powers.
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>>719520838
Yeah but its kinda sad that the supernatural stuff only comes as a form of psychic powers and that's it.
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>>719521214
how do the parasites control motherfukin bees
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>>719521303
because Kojima
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>>719521150
Nah he doesn't even look like MGS3 Snake at all in Pachinko. Volgin looks like shit too. EVA is the only good one of the pachinko models
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Do the stakes of MGS3 pretty much not exist if there was a crew following snake the whole time making sure he doesnt fail his mission anyway?
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>>719521414
this pic makes me wonder why nobody's made the brick wall image in Delta. or if they have I've missed it
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>>719521446
i forgot about the skull face XOF retardation. as if naked snake wasn't enough of a jobber by himself
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>>719521303
Pheromone producing I guess.
>>719521214
How was Fear jumping like 10 meters a leap, running on water or had stealth camo tech when no one else in the world did
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The new guy savage mode legit feels like they're teasing a new Castlevania game or some new IP
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>>719521468
I was about to and forgot because I got too immersed
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>>719521303
The parasites are one of the biggest asspulls Kojima has ever done, them creating human language is fine I guess but for some reason they give superpowers too
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>>719521609
WOLBACHIA
HAMBURGER
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>almost to Groznyj Grad in Delta
Woo hoo I cant wait. I played in this map so much in MGO2. To the point where it felt eerie going back to it in MGS3. Seeing it in Delta is gonna be cool
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Is it normal to yearn to be big boss all the time? i lift for him
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>>719521609
>creating human language
I think I missed that one, what?
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>>719521526
>How was Fear jumping like 10 meters a leap, running on water or had stealth camo tech when no one else in the world did
I just imagine him as someone from those old freak circus things, he learned and trained his body how to do all of that, plus likely body modifications too.
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>>719521797
he seemed like a cool dude until he sold all the people that followed him out
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>>719521089
OK pussy
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>>719522016
Hope Konami sees this bro.
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>>719519690
Turn down global illumination and shadows to high and DLSS balanced. There will be very little visual difference but a relevant increase in framerate.
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I'm running this game with lossless scaling on 1080p native

50-55 fps but with lossless is about 90-100
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>>719521542
I regretted booting that shit up, it took a good 2-3 minutes and it opened another executable. Did it have an ending or is it endless until you die? I died and was like alright I'm done forever I guess.
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>>719522515
I just use the adaptive option to get 120 fps locked. Looks pretty good to me.
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>>719472276
fpbp

What's with the weird hate campaign with this game? It feels so forced and unnatural.



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