Why did Papers Please succeed but We the Refugees Ticket to Europe fail?
Papers Please managed to appeal to both sides of the political spectrum. You either saw it as a dark criticism of the nature of border control or you unironically enjoyed a game where you got to keep immigrants out of your country.
>>719493050Also it's nuanced. There are innocent refugees, and there are terrorists and sex traffickers. Your job is to separate them and identify the real threats.Pretty sure We the Refugees framed it as purely good people.
>>719492227Because glory to arstotzka
pp is made by a geniusI dont know who made wtr but Im guessing they majored in womens studies
>>719494768>Pretty sure We the Refugees framed it as purely good people.I want a game that plays this straight for 90% than pulls the curtains at the last 10% and shows you the aftermath of what you did.Probably akin to Spec ops the line.
>>719492227>We the Refugees Ticket to EuropeI can already tell its a preachy fluff game
>>719492227Papers please was released during a time of a lot less competition and has more gameplay, we the refugee is mostly a visual novel. >>719494768>Papers please is nuanced >Tell the inspector that the movement is trying to bribe you >They throw you in jail
>>719495036>Oh no these children I helped across the border are now caged by fascists who sent their parents to foreign concentration camps
>>719492227Wasn't there an anti Brexit sequel to Papers please that flopped
>>719495036>and shows you the aftermath of what you didAnd what aftermath would that be?
>>719492227Because it came out over a decade ago.
>>719495110You just described nuance
>>719495153God I wish...
>>719495239That's not nuance, the game is clearly telling you that the state is bad
>>719495036There was some game that came out pretty recently. Basically you were playing highway rat teenagers trying to flee the country.Anyway if you do the leftist thing of trying to foment revolution, the army cracks down and slaughters all the characters you met.
>>719495187Whatever is going on with those women in the UK defending themselves, I dunno.
>>719495304Holy fucking shit I hate you ignorant fucking spineless cunts who have confused "nuance" with never having a fucking opinion or definite stance about anything. >Ah but what if... Arstotzka is good, ackchually?Go fuck yourself. Entrance denied.
>>719495464Notice how the camera never pans to the other person.
>>719495330That's not entirely true, it only happens in the ending where you escape. And even then the revolution ends up happening.
>>719495605The dude?
>>719495304So because the state is a police state or whatever that means the game itself isn't nuanced? I think you're just throwing words around and don't actually understand what you're saying
>>719495605Anon, its obviously both 1. a man 2. another officer.
>>719495543>Government Inspector, there is this group that's trying to destabilize the nation, they wanted me to help them but I turned them down. Here is the evidence >Thank you citizens, now off to jail with you.How is that nuance?
>>719495735>Here is the evidenceThat you've been associating with Terrorists?
>>719495735>ah but you see in order to be nuanced it has to portray this agent of the oppressive police state as sympatheticGuess what the player character is
>>719495675I don't feel the game is nuanced, while there is no big reward dor stopping a sex traffickers or reuniting a couple there is also no big punishment for breaking the rules a couple of times.
>>719495735He doesn't actually imprison the Inspector. He just takes him in for questioning to get more information about the terrorists out of him. It's just game over for (You).
>>719495170are you talking about "not tonight"? im pretty sure it's just a ripoff of paper please and not an official sequel
>>719492227Papers Please was an actual game that popularised the busywork job simulator genreWe the refugees is just a shitty novel with no gameplay
>>719492227For me it's The Imperial Gatekeeper.
>>719492227Papers Please isn't about any political stance.Agree or disagree, you're in there to save your own skin.You can literally send innocent people to jail to get extra cash to ensure you and your family don't starve to death, you steal people's passports to keep yourself safe and if you help the resistance you do so at your own cost.Meanwhile>We the Refugees Ticket to EuropeAlready sounds so fucking stupid it is unbelievable, it sounds so political from the get go and I'm sure the entire thing isn't about you yourself getting caught between a hammer and a hard place, deciding to sacrifice people just to keep yourself alive... I bet it's simple about getting a good ending (letting every nigger pass) or a bad ending (blocking the hordes of unwashed savages from wrecking your country).
Anyone here play the phone game “Bad Credit? No Problem!” ? It’s a fun little time killer that scratches the Papers Please itch. Self aware enough to be funny but lacking any sort of plot to make it compelling.>”I guess you’d like to see my Papers, Please?”>”Get it? Because this is just like that other thing!”>APPROVED>Here is your 49% interest title loan>”Whoa. This definitely wasn’t worth it for a joke.”
On one hand, I like how Papers Please doesn't take the easy way out by milking political points for condemning authoritarianism and making EZIC the good guys, but on the other hand the status quo is so bad that anything else seems like a preferable alternative.
>>719495187They would pick all our fruit for poverty wages, the bastards.Honestly depends entirely on which country we're talking about here.
>>719492227Those two games are completely different genres, different kind of stories, were made years apart, with Papers being set in a fictional world with real world parallels and WtR trying to ground itself in the real world.What a spurious and stupid comparison, surely not made with any ill intent.>>719495170It was a clone that flopped so hard that it got a sequel.God, is this place retarded.
>>719501096It had a sequel...?Sorry to hear that.
>>719496246>the game doesn't have rewards so it's not nuancedYep you really dont understand this concept. Google it first
>>719492227Papers Please is one of the best games I've ever played. Love that he fit so many themes into a paperwork simulator. Hilarious that one re occurring retard character eventually became a drug dealer.
Not tonight was so fucking shit jesus christ>people have to wear the exact same hat as they have on their ID card photothat shit made no fucking sense but was probably a direct result of the shitty ass pixel styleThat fucking subhuman copycat nigger also didn't understand that half the fun in Papers Please was having a limited amount of space to work with, forcing you to shuffle around your papers etc
>>719492227She's way too small.Demand fingerprints.
>>719504546It's insane it took 40 posts for someone to realize the thing to interrogate.
>>719498895>anything else seems like a preferable alternativeThis is objectively false. Antegria is full on Stalinist, and Kolechia is a failed state. Arstotzka may be bad, but there is no guarantee that EZIC will be better.
>>719494918tpbp
>>719495735This >>719496575 is right. Just held for questioning and until the audit is done.I'm not sure, but if I read the subtext right, if you give him the evidence, Vonel thinks you're an honest buffoon. You're not very bright so you aren't suited for the vital position of Inspector, but you aren't a traitor either.
>>719494768The first time (maybe 5th playthrough?) I realized I could arrest Dari Ludum and save those girls, I felt so fucking good. I may be a minor bureaucrat for a brutal police state, but once in a while I can do some real heroics. No due process in Arstotzka, bitch!
>>719495464wtfhow did she get so tanned
>>719492227>We the Refugees Ticket to EuropeThese types of games don't need money because they're funded by tax dollars
Here, have a short filmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFHHGETsxkE
>>719495153>Oh no these children I helped across the border*trafficking Those children you helped traffic across the border are now in pedo rings, dead, or moved out of the country.Good job
>>719507663>Those children you helped traffic across the border are now in pedo ringsTrump's America, smdh
>>719507827Yea unironically you're pro child trafficking for sick fucks, good job.
>>719507443I prefer https://youtube.com/watch?v=rqWClsdVFOU
