Can someone explain how this was a complete downgrade from 2?
>>719493514It wasn't. You're just a coomer.
It was censored for the leftist modern audience. Which doesn’t exist so it sold like dogshit.
>>719493514>boring plot95% of the plot is just "go to sword lol">music is unmemorableName a single piece from 3. Can't do it? Exactly. Xenoblade 1 has 'Engage the Enemy". Xenobalde 2 has "Drifting Soul". 3? Nothing.>lame one dimensional charactersNoah is mary sue. Nia is quiet flat wall. Lans is just a walking steroid. Sena is wife. Eunie is okay.I could go on and on.
I liked it better than 2, though 2 clearly had a better ending sequenceThe side quests were massively improved
>>719493514Another retard self reports.
>>719494126A step away
>>719494187This is a thread for fan discussion, not your schizo ramblings.
Its better to 2 for me. I find the endgame more fun too.
So now that the Expedition 33 hate thread is over we move to the Xenoblade hate thread? Great, just give me a minute to find my pastas!
>>719494307My mistake, it seemed like the OP was either a troll or very stupid, either way didn’t seem like a thread for genuine discussion
I don't see how thinking an franchise being "too anime" when it's built off a team spearheaded by husband and wife duo with a cultivated team that love and have been around for a good portion of the history of jrpg development. Anyone who posts that sentiment just comes across as foolish. Since it's certainly not nor has ever been a valid argument.
Why did they give Mighty Link to Matt&A? Glimmer or any of the tanks would benefit more from it.
>>719493514Half of the team was poached to work on TotK.
>>719493514>Xenoblade 2Pre 2018>Xenoblade 3Post 2018There's nothing more to it.
>>719493514It just felt like a game that didn't have to be made. They overcorrected on the complaints about 2, and we got a really sterile boring game that doesn't have it's own identity like 1 or 2 does.
>>719494813Nah other than the technical issues of being trapped on switch hardware the only real problem with the game is the final dungeon sucks and the ending isn’t nearly as impactful as the previous two games. Everything up to that point is great
>>719493514They played edgy concepts and themes in the safest way possible. also conservative character designs. Felt like they held back.
>>719494813What is 3 missing that the other 2 don't have? The combat system is fun and engaging, the environments are beautiful like always, the side quests are incredible. What was that missing secret ingrediant?
ragebait thread
>>719494981Experimentalism and the drive to do something different. 1, X and 2 all tried to do something different and are very different to each other. 3 just feels like a more souless version of 1, and everything about it's design and writing just feels like the path of least resistance in making a sequel to 1 and 2.
>>7194949813 was such a comically bad bait and switch>here's your cast of ruthless child soldiers>2 hours later>jk let's go team shounen, say it together, 3, 2... killing is le bad!
>>719494813too many reused assets from previous games.3s bestiary is like "remember this enemy? Remember that enemy?" too much. There needs to be a better balance of old vs new.
>>719493514Self censorship>>719493735Case in point. It's so funny seeing censorship affirmative trying to shout over the noise that this isn't censorship despite the blatant toning down.
>>719495108>1, X and 2 all tried to do something differentSuch as?
>>719494539There's literally no such thing as too anime.
>>719495169>it HAS to be censorshipMaybe they just wanted a different style? Maybe they wanted their game to be taken seriously and not be known as coomer gacha garbage?
>>7194952321 was the first game of it's kind for Monolithsoft, and they did the open world, scale and MMO style combat. X had the open world and a different universe, 2 went more in an anime direction in a direct tonal contrast with 1 and X. All of the games offer a very different experience.
>>719493514Literally nothing happens in the game. nothing mattered.>time stop>1 attosecond>time resume>nothing of consequences. no one remembers.CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAPGOAT
>>719495476They censored themselves and paid a price for it.lollmao
>>719494952This. The whole game felt like a first draft of a concept that deserved better than being strapped to a 12+ Nintendo game.I'd like the ideas of XC3 to be tried again by another studio except with a more interesting world and more mature elements.
>muh mio lol, lmao www even.
>>719495840Why are they insisting on making the overall plot so complicated? Just keep them all as standalone games. This is getting almost as bad as FF7.
>>719495840Other than the worlds manage to recombine which was otherwise thought to be impossible.
>>719496029Because that's stupid and because Takahashi and his wife always wanted to tell a comprehensive story spread across multiple entries. Get on board or get over it.
It was better, though.
I will say this: the boat segments which I expected to be cool were abit of a slog. Considering how nice Skells are I thought they knew their way around all vehicles.
>>719493735the combat system was leagues better by itself
>>719496173He’s a booba cuck. Johnny come lately who doesn’t realize xeno was always about over the top ridiculously complex sci fi drama and not about anime bimbos
I think the plot is insanely telegraphed in advance and you're watching characters react to the basic premise and other things you already know as the player. The big endgame lore dump is simply that the worlds merged together, which while being something that the party didn't know, is something that any fan knew.Who is the true enemy? It's the very obvious bad guy voiced by Akio Ohtsuka who appears in every Moebius scene and is clearly their leader. He was in the trailers. Also Moebius are the bad guys, we can see from the trailers and the designs and the way they act and look, but this is a reveal for the party two chapters in. We know people have children. We know everyone is clones from the trailers. We recognize that some areas are based on previous games, but because the characters don't, nothing is said, there's nothing new gained.For being a crossover, there really wasn't much fan service, it felt squandered until Future Redeemed, but that had the opposite problem of being 'memberberries and not having any real tact, just exposition dumps. People liked seeing what happened to characters from previous games, that advanced our perception of them, but 3 was so scared of alienating newcomers. I think it's so obnoxious how Nintendo just openly tried to summarize the "Klaus story" in promotional material.Also certain gameplay decisions, by virtue of trying to copy 1, bring down the improvements present in 2. Arts are better in 2, the gameplay is more engaging, they didn't need to downgrade it to match. Cool conceptually, unfortunately it makes the game less fun. It's also disappointing how classes all play identically across each character, the only difference is base stats.
>>719494921>Everything up to that point is greatah yes. definitely love taking over tens of bases with like my life depends on it only to find out the enemy never retakes them. Amazing.
>>719493514combat was way worse. villain was lame.
>>719496460If you didn’t like that why did you do it? It’s optional content
It's lacking the soul.
>>719496591I agree making xc2 about titty monsters murdered the soul
>>719493514It feels too corporate
>>719496539>hey buddy want this character?>uhh yeah?>too bad motherfucker you gotta take over some bases>oh...... uhhh.. ok. but do I get to see some cameos?>who knows try and find out :3c
>>719496670You didn't play the game. sexy anime girls existed since gears. Your contribution the thread is meritless and boarding on normalfaggotry.
>>719496958And XC3 still has sexy girls it just doesn’t dwell on it just like xenogears, saga, and 1 didn’t. The nigger is you and you newfags do not belong in my series. Get out
>3 lefty who lost and had the worst selling game of the franchise SEETHING that the modern audience didn't show up to buy his censored slopYou'll survive.
>>719497202Neither does 2. You've lost. Cease your nothing ramblings and fuck off garbage.
>>7194973611.86 million as of March 2023. Well over 2 mil now and sold at a faster pace than xc2. Seethe
>>719495145They ruthlessly kill a lot of villains and too far gone soldiers though
>>7194935142 is always getting higher, both in plot and gameplay.3 has amazing moments then goes weaker for hours, including getting it's highest climax a couple of regions before the final boss. Even had a boss fight with the insanest gimmick the game tosses.
>>719497517No one can take anothing story about the non issue of muh chillun soldiers seriously for more than a few hours.
>>719497410Youngest newfag your problem with 3 is that it doesn’t spend its entire run time being haha touch my booba Rex. I understand 2 was your first game and you think that defines the entire series but you are simply wrong and retarded
>>719494126>Xenoblade 1 has 'Engage the Enemy". >Xenobalde 2 has "Drifting Soul".This has to be bait. Those are not even the best pieces.Also Carrying the Weight of Life
>>719497652>youngest newfagWrong. >touch my boob rexNot even in the game of 2. >your problem with 3 The fact the cast is one dimensional and revolves around fuckstick and the ponce gang. Also the super sentai transformations. Never mouth off at me again child.
>>719494539Xenoblade Movie when???
>>719497804lol so you didn’t even play the games at all? The most casual of faggots are you. Fuck outta here niglet
>>719497574That gets buried so hard after K it's crazy.They even successfully killed the eschatology of the endless now against advancement by having it breaking apart the whole game.The only plot point that survives is N being a cuck.
>>719497849Depends on which studio adapts it. The greatest monkey paw would to have an ova or full movie greenlit only for it to end up with Trigger or worse. >>719497910You're lost in the sauce anon.
>>719493514To be fair, they're a pretty hard act to follow
>>719498059A movie would suck. You can already just watch the cutscenes in theater. Trying to make an movie would just end up cutting so much out it would lose all soul
For me the dealbreaker was the combat, the party interactions and synergies were good in fact they are objectively the most refined the series has had but the oroboros forms and chain attacks were really half baked. It didn't help that they removed many of the tools added to XC2 that made whittling down high HP encounters fairly easy with the right set up almost every single boss fight in 3 especially the consuls were massive hp sponges that you have no choice but to whittle down slowly as they are all typically immune to either physical or ether based debuffs and resistant to the ones that they aren't immune to every single consul battle had exactly the samestrategy and it starts to get both boring and tedious towards the end of the game in fact I'd go as far as saying that the enemy parameters are the single biggest contribution for the combat falling flat.
Why was the DLC so much better than the main game?
>>719498315Xc3 combat was way better than xc2 where literally every single battle was stack up some orbs then pop them
>>719493514>boring, insanely drab and unmemorable world that has none of its own identity and fails even for the purposes of "memberries">95% of the music is boring>too many party members, there are 7 of them, you only control one at a time, so effectively 6/7 of the encounter is ALWAYS an auto-battle outside chain attacks>but chain attacks have another issue where the game completely shuts the enemy down and allows you to burst 80% of boss HP>no way to downlevel (???????)>the story starts promising, the main cast has great chemistry and personalities, but after chapter 5 it fumbles everything, turns characters into walking mouthpieces and ends with the dullest and most vague ending in the trilogy>worst cast of antagonists ever done by Takahashi, N gets wasted despite massive potential, the rest of the ass clowns are terrible, DJ in particular
>>719498342Sexy rexy
>>719498342Because it tied back into the overall narrative of zohar/klaus/processor etc. Rather than being a glorified side story
>>719494126Moebius Battle
>>719498391>xc2 where literally every single battle was stack up some orbs then pop themClearly never played bringer of chaos or the challenge DLC's, the amount of tools at your disposal in XC2 is insane compared to XC3.
>>719498342because you get to see previous protags being fathers rather than some story that had no bearing to the actual world. just some story about one dude with a raging cat pussy addiction
>>719493514Easy explanation: it wasn't.>>719494126I can also post bullshit over and over, it doesn't make it true.
>>719498845The xc3 cast manages to unfreeze time and restore the rightful flow of the universe, that is achieving far more than the future redeemed cucks who literally are just like welp maybe someone else will solve it eventually
>>719493514The Job system is kino, you're just a pleb
>>719494539Who the fuck are you quoting?
>>719493514>StoryThe story was boring and bad, literally anything else would've been better>Noah's arkIt's the 4th time in Takahashi's career he does this, the story is pointless, he created a problem out of nowhere just to have this thing back AGAINAt the end of 2, the Titans turned into land and the 2 worlds were being merged again at that moment, it seemed like the land from xb1 was falling down to reconstruct planet earth Instead he pulled >Well antimatter and the world will explode and everyone will dieWhen literally this didn't exist before and even Klaus said nothing bad was going to happen, just that the worlds were going to merge>Noah's ark againIt's pretty fucking stupid he created a machine that can "store souls" and create actual real living matter, bodies, animals, plants, food, air, land, fucking drinking water!?But they never thought of going to space while the "antimatter destruction" happened?>NN is just Jin 2, without anything of what made Jin awesome, he's just a "MUH MIO!" and that's it, there's no point to the character MF even uses a katana and can teleport like Jin, you can tell he was uninspired, by far the worst character in the franchise>MapFor a map that was a "merge" of 1 and 2, it's EXTREMELY bland Bland bland blandNo cool locations, no weird biomes or land formations, no glowing living fauna, or crazy glowing trees, etc.The entire mal is just a regular landscape with a giant sword and fish in the distance, this is the main sin of the gameStory is not good, map is not good, characters are barely decent and would've been better without Noah and Mio>No townsExtremely fucking shitty to have only one town in the entire game known for having unique crazy races>Shit combatKevesi arts take 30 SECONDS EACH WITH NO WAY TO REDUCE COOLDOWN EVEN AT MAXED LEVEL WHAT FUCKING MORON THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA!? HE SHOULD BE FIRED OR DEMOTED TO WORK ON MOBILE GAMES SINCE HE LIKES COOLDOWNS SO MUCHalsoCont.
>>719499176Not him, but it's incredibly disingenuous to pretend that xenoblade and by extension all jrpg threads don't have shitposters that are ironic otaku who have an actual distaste for anime and the genre.
You're a gachafaggot spamnigger
>>719499214>he thinks N is Jin 2No one tell him about Kevin lol
>>719499303This thread didn't have a single post of that nature. He's being disingenuous and attacking a boogeyman that isn't here in an attempt to downplay arguments.
>>719497491lollmaoYou lost. People didn't turn out for the censored slop.I take back what I said. I hope you don't survive and kill yourself.
>>719493514Xenoblade as a whole is a massive downgrade to Xenosaga.Takahashi needs to let his wife write the stories again.
>>719493514>the most memorable thing about the game is photo of the previous protag's harem.talk about failure
>>719499524>can’t deny the dataI believe you have lost lil laddie loo. Better luck next shill
>>719499421>3 shit posting defendersIt's been 3 years, give it a rest Enel, the game is just boring and has bad writing
>>719499097It would of been fine if you earned universal points and spent them to upgrade classes, forcing you to change classes and micromanage shit the entire game for optimal growth got really annoying.
Mio and Sena are hotter than the 2 XB2 girls and I am beyond tired of pretending they are not.
>>719499616It’s just funny when you new friends expose you don’t know anything about the series
>>719499214You'd have to be a massive Jinfag to think Jin is better than N. Seeing N just completely breakdown after getting cucked was the most satisfying scene in the entire game, Jin gets a tragic anti-hero death he didn't deserve after being a hypocrite the whole game.
>>719499721Best post of the thread
>3 lefties seething and lyingMan. I'm sorry people didn't turn out to buy your censored garbage. Instead of seething at 2's amazing success which was tanked by 3 why not buy additional copies?Hopefully 3 didn't kill the franchise, they uncensor themselves in 4 and get decent sales.
>>719499617>forcing you to change classes and micromanage shit the entire game for optimal growth got really annoyingYou shouldn't be playing RPGs if this type of shit bothers you. This used to be the autism genre where people would spend hours exploring first person dungeons and mapping them out with pen and paper.
>>719499864How much more successful was 2 than 3?
>>719499864Sorry we couldn't have a character like Rex's badass single mama who didn't need no man or the gender neutral bird. 3 was just too fucking woke, right?
Jeez that's more of a reach than the times you try and argue 3 wasn't censored for lefties lmaoAs pathetic as 3's reception. I won't respond to you any more. You lost.
>>719500126>admits surrenderGood riddance!
XC2 fags are delusional
>>719500249Sorry your game failed anonI'm sure the modern audience will turn up for the next woke censored game. I just feel it in my bones.
>>719500315They turned up for xc3 so xc4 will be just fine my lil seething friendo
>>719499721lol lmao It's not even close
>>719499214Cont.>Story is not memorable There are some good moments yes, but they don't carry the weight of other gamesAn example of this is when mio is going to be executedNoah and mio are cookie cutter bland characters the entire gameAnd I'm suddenly supposed to feel bad for them just because they made an amv of Noah punching the cell bars while an Ariana grande song plays in the background? NahIt has some good moments but truth be told, none I can remember>Shit villain that came out of nowhere "Z"Is the desire of all living beings in the ark not wanting to die, to want an "endless now" and that desire manifested itself as an omnipotent almighty god with power over time?That was some bullshit right fucking there, some supreme bullshit, and then he made them go to a war to harvest their energy for the ark? Yeah that's shit Not only that but they made him a pathetic wealing jobber in the dlc when CHADVIS entered the scene (then again they also made GIGACHAD rex and shulk jobbers) but my point stands that it should've been better>Mio is Nia's daughter blueballingThey never state this directly even though we all know it's true and they point at it, why? It makes no difference to something so obvious >Fiora is lucky seven >Fucking Takahashi had to say this in a fucking interview 2 years after the game releasedYeah awesome, way to ruin a cool sword and he didn't even explain how>15 years of franchise >11 Years after Xenoblade X>STILL NO RUN BUTTON FOR A MASSIVE FUCKING GAME>STILL NO FUCKING COMPASSit's like these fuckers don't even fucking care, I don't have the time to walk at a snails ass pace in the big as fuck map
>When your sequel sells less than the previous game because it was censored, you winGross, 3 defenders are canadian
I Wish the games weren't so long so i could replay them sometimes. 300h for all 3 is just...
3 is better than 2, but both are a huge dropoff from 1 and X.
>>719500126>Multiculturalism ending>Anti-religion>polygamy XC2 is just so heckin' redpilled, right my /pol/sisters?
>>719493514Theres a black in it.
>>719498134Homura is so pure
>>719500542Not only that but he blacks the only semi-attractive party member in the entire game.What a spiteful jew game 3 turned out to be. Glad it failed.
>>719500519what do seafags have to do with anything?
>>7194996162 is Enel's favorite game though
>>719500392All this says is that most Pyrafags are normalfag NPCs and likely only know her from Smash.
>>719500685Enel did shill 3 as hard as possible, he just went back to 2 after a while.He did the same with X, but to a lesser extent because he secretly fucking hates that game, probably even moreso now that the new ending seems to imply it will relevant to the main timeline when he said multple times it wouldn't..
>>719501170his videos just expose how stupid the combat systems are for these games.
>>719493514Thinking Xenoblade 2 is better than any of the other games in the series is a strong indicator of low IQ and mental illness.
>>719496398This.
Thinking 3 is any good and not censored garbage for lefties is a strong indicator of low IQ, mental illness, and subversive behavior.
>>719498342Because the DLC had more levity.If you look back and 3's story, it's pretty serious and maudlin with the only humor coming from the Nopon, Eunie and sorta Lanz
I like how the seething cuck tries to shill here over and over again that 3 failed. It’s victory really mind broke him
>>719502187Every time xeno tries humor it fails miserably. See: blushy crushy
>>719502993Only normalfags don't like that scene. Not that the opinion of those things has merit in the first place.
When I build my Skell irl I'm blasting this bophttps://youtu.be/kTqIN-5w93Q?si=3R_cw2DsKX_dpOQb
>>719493514well in my(as in me not you) PERSONAL opinionthe story, characters (both designs and their personalities) ,gameplay, world and music(to a lesser degree than the other things) are all worse than 2s but I would say 3 is still a really good game 2 is just my favorite game of all time
>>719493514Plot was even more of a piece of shit, that's about it. 2's plot was already trash, and 3 managed to somehow be worse.They need to stop trying to connect Xenoblade into one big thing, because the more they've tried to do so, the worse the plot of each game has gotten.
The only bad thing he did was not deciding to destroy the worlds sooner
>>719493735fpbp
>>719503920Someone stop this /pol/tard before he shoots up another school
>>719493514It wasn't.
>>719494126Immediate threat
Why do Xenoblade threads have so much toxicity? Just enjoy your gnostic anime game ffs
>>719493514When the bar hits the floor, Monolith Soft grabs a shovel. Xenoblade has always been soulless slop.
>>719508706grim, due to what that says for the entirety of every western video franchise
>>719499545Facts.
>>719508002Because the games differ so wildly in tone and aesthetics, they've essentially courted two very different fandoms.
>>719509186Not really, most anons love all of the xenogames. and every anime trope within
>>719494539Its simple>ShonenGood>Harem Shonen"too Anime"
>>719506512Lmao like that tranny from last week?
>>719509763No. regular fans like the series. 3 fans are lefties that wanted to gloat about censoring the series only to have it fail since the modern audience doesn’t buy games.
>>719509763This.
>>719510597You are retarded. It’s funny seeing secondaries expose themselves like this. If you played the series you would realize 3 is much more in line with gears saga and 1 meanwhile xc2 being a booba titillation game is the outlier for the series
>No traditional towns>Generic job-system, worse than FF5's because it discourages specializing characters>7 party members at the same time making the battles too chaotic>Awful chain attack mechanic>Worst OST of the main 3 games>Worst world design>Worst ending>Worst villains>Ruins the lore of the series>Cast with no charisma including the main duo, all of them have the same backstory. Nia alone is more endearing than all of them>More consistent but way more generic character design (Pyra and Mythra alone have 100x more fanart than the entirety of XC3)6/10 at best.
>>719511857>no cringe>no tora and poppy faggotry>no filler chapters >no gacha>no generic twink mcXc3 still has a lot to recommend it
>>719493514It's an upgrade in literally every single way.
>>719512314>noah >not a generic twinkAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>719512314>hates anime and staples of JRPGS >thinks it gets to mouth off with an opinionwhat a gross 'thing' you are.
>>719512784>brownoid quivers in impotent rage because it’s treasured slop was criticized
>>719512723Noah is generic but he’s not a twink
>>719493514Every Xeno game is kino. From Gears to Blade 3.
>it's another xb3 rager schizoid thread
>>719512723Mio is the mc of 3
>>719513408Yes he is with his trashy long hair and ponytail.
>>719493514woke.
the nintendo demographic and xenoblade was a mistake.we will never get edgy xenogames again.
I finished Definitive Edition, but 2 won't work properly on my potato pc. Can I just jump to 3?
>>719513942No.
>>719514004Why?
>>7195140853 is a direct follow-up to both 1 and 2, you will only get half the indented understanding if you skip 2.
>>719514085Basically everything in 3 is call back to 1 or 2 and several plot threads and characters are direct continuations and it won’t land right if you don’t know what happened in 2
>>719514173Ok. Thank you.
>>719513938>mindrapes a childSaga wtf
>>719513938lol the only two settings Xenoblade has is "edgelord bullshit" or "goofy bullshit" anon, Zanza, Jin and N are all various flavors of edgelord incarnate
>>719514296this isnt true, all the call backs are superficial as fuck like oh cool look its the mechonis' sword remember that!?
Following up on>>719514085>>719514173>>719514296>>719514316Does 2 at least have stable framerate on switch 2 now? I know they're waffling on putting out the performance updates, but surely better hardward should keep it from dipping into the single digits like it did on the first switch right? I can stomach shit resolution if I have to.
>>719513942>but 2 won't work properly on my potato pcHow much of a potato we're talking about?I finished it several years ago on 4790k and 970.
>>719514414Dunno i shan’t be a switch 2
>>719514296That is only in Future Redeemed, which is funny because they intentionally made every reference vague as fuck in case someone hadn't played 1 or 2 so you get shit like Rex talking about King Eulogimenos as if he were some ancient, forgotten king to Eulogimenos' own fucking granddaughter
>>719514414Im so glad im not the kinda person that doesnt enjoy soulfull frame drops when theres a ton of shit on screen
>>719514561the frame drops are whatever, it's the dynamic resolution drops that are madddening
Because the characters are nine years old, they have infantile conversations like what is farming, what is a baby. As a non nine year old, this was extremely boring
>>719514612just play it on your tv instead of handheld
>>719514470R5 3600, rx 570 and 16gb of ram. Ryujinx has some glitches and freezes in the menus. Yuzu has some glitches and framerate issues. I guess it's something about my gpu.
>>7195144704070 and 5700x3D. It still has issues and crashes.
>>719514632And yet it's still somehow more mature than a god of war game or a batman arkham game or halo and on and on. It's honestly amazing how juvenile western writing is.
>>719514756>muh anime cringe is so heckin deeperinoYou must be joking nigga
>>7195149453 has no jokes
>>719514637I did, it's still pretty obvious every time it happens on a 65" screen emulating and disabling the dynamic res completely makes the games look so fucking gorgeous
>>719513942lol fucking no, 3 has more shaders than 2 and is more demanding, if something I wouldn't recommend 3 on Ryujinx or at some point you will be waiting 20 minutes before the emulator finishes up loading shadersalso 2 with Save editor for the cores makes that game the best of the series.
>>719515004Melia is a joke
>>719513631Retard.
>>719514393>all the fucking characters have cores>several main characters have callback to 2>a potential main theme is literally linked to 2Dumbass, playing 3 without playing 1 AND 2 is like playing Automata without playing Replicant first,
>>719515075Schizo
>>719515215Is (You)
>>719514945It's clearly above your speed, that's for certain. What a goober. Apparently I made fun of one of your trashy lowbrow franchises. www
>>719515383Nope it's (You) retard.
>>719515302Cuck.
>>719515450Meds
>>719515410You are really buttflustered by this. Why are you so committed to wrongfaggotry?
>>719493514I wouldn't call it a completely hard downgrade to 2 but the plot climaxes early and then goes limp and keeps trying to get up the stakes but it all falls completely flaccid.
>>719515515You're really committed to being a retard.
>>719515485Ywnbaw
Wish Ethel and Eunie got more porn.
>>719515586Meds
>>719515580You poor creature
>>719515679You poor retard.
>>719515673Ruh roe the troon bot got stuck on repeat
>>719515789Meds
>>719515757There there your shota twink is still in the game and you can wank to him any time your micro gets stiffy but he will never be mc ;)
It has the best gameplay of the bunch.
>>719493514
I had fun with it over all and Eunie is the bus, but the story is dumb as bricks and makes no sense.>Only 12 years since xc1/2 since its Melia's 100th birthday celebration>People will argue this isnt the case, but is since Mio is only A KID when the game starts before the whole Origin thing. >Even with all the tech left in the worlds of xc1 and 2, they someone created a god machine in all that time and only like...6 people knew about it>Nia is a queen for some reason despite the fact she, NOR HER DRIVER were royalty. >The entire reason why there is a teenage forever war, instead of living in a paradise was because most of the population of the worlds were scared of the future...for some reason>This could have been alleviated if the governments just came out and told everyone what was gonna go down instead of leaving everyone in the dark >The entire game takes place in a VR chat room with asshole admins>All the races are just different colored people now>High Entia's only have stubby headwings within one generation, despite the fact that other halfbreeds or lower in xc1 still had huge headwings or ones the size of melia'sThe whole thing was poorly thought out.
Every day I pray to god that the new game comes soon so we can have actual threads instead of just retarded shitposting
>>719518471and not to count the fact that Nia barely reacts to M and Mio the first time she see them.I love the melancholic tone of the game but the latter half has too many plotholes and it falls off under its weight.
>>719518554what would the new game be, XBX2, XB4 or a new Xeno?
>>719518554I just finished X DE. I want a sequel with a more defined character. But with more even more developed mech customization and more fleshed out cities with side characters and stories going on. Like 4-5 different hubs and not just one city surrounded by nature.
>>719518790Xenoblade X2 and Xenoblade 4 are the same thing
>>719518845I didn't get a lot of X's plot because honestly that's the biggest design flaw of that game. but from what I could (badly) gather is that the earth they were fleeting from was Klaus' earth right?
>>719493514I think >>719496398 nailed it. To addThe plot itself felt rushed. You had a great scene at the end of Chapter 6 and the game pretty much tries to rush to the end. Nia and Melia get no time in the story. Even worse, it feels like the end of Nia's Hero quest should have been in the main story because he basically tells you that this world will go away once the world truly merge. Thats never told to you in the game and you pretty much have to infer it from the last cut scene. Im pretty sure the characters had no idea but they are barely characters really. Origin should have been like XC2's World Tree where you have characters discussing what's happening and maybe give some thoughts on what they think. Maybe tie the themes of the game back as they think about what they are doing and what it means to be human or fix the world. This would have been a great time to connect the character to their real world counter parts. You're playing as some weirdos who only live for 10 years and don't know what babies are. Giving some context would have fixed this, like showing kid Noah & his friends before the Birthday celebration or even baby Nia which would have been a good way to tie the fact that Nia is Mio's mom, something the game is REALLY FUCKING autistic about not showing. The characters needed to be humanized way more which is why Matthew works better as a MC beyond the fact hes just more interesting. But Origin just becomes the characters saying "look at that thing." You fight X and Y but they don't even get cutscenes when they die. Chapter 6 made it seem like they were going to play a bigger role but they really don't. Also the job system needed to be fleshed out better and money needed a real purpose. They probably should have had an equipment like Core Chips since just using accessories made it feel like you wouldn't want to level classes after a certain point (despite the game demanding it). Also, XC1 and 2 had good worlds where 3 didn't
>>719519132Nah, X takes place in a parallel dimension that was also affected by Conduit/Zohar shenanigans. The only direct connection it shares with the numbered universes is the Nexus/collective unconscious, which seems to bind all Xeno dimensions.We don’t exactly know where the white whale 2 ended up after chapter 13, but there is a pretty strong chance that X’s plot will be tied into the mainline games going forward
>>719519132Can't be because Klaus simultaneously creates an Earth in a pocket dimension, while wiping out life on the original Earth and making it uninhabitable for however amount of time. While in X humanity flees Earth because an interdimensional alien fleet is at war with another species and it gets caught in the crossfire and explodes. And presumably humanity discovered the Zohar there as well.
>>719518471>>Nia is a queen for some reason despite the fact she, NOR HER DRIVER were royalty.Nia was a surrogate daughter of a Gormott noble so she does have some claim to be Queen.
>>719496398I completed 3 yesterday and started Future Redeemed today and I think you hit the nail on the head. There's another issue that I have to and that's how blunt XC3 is. Xenoblade 1 is primarily about the future and that idea is carried by Shulk, and later Zanza, being able to manipulate the future with the Monado. 2 was primarily about the past and that was carried by the nations and the Aegis sisters trying to recover a horrific war 500 years prior. Z isn't even a character. He's not even a person. Xenoblade 3 is obsessed with the present and the vehicle for that is their broken machine the was supposed to remake both universes after the matter antimatter clash malfunctioned. And now Aionios is frozen mid fusion while the broken AI made from the stored personalities within Origin being unsure about moving on from the fucking apocalypse entertains himself by watching XC1 and 2 fans fight each other. The Kevesi/ Agnian war is fine in principal but the follow through is really lame. Especially since Noah is not a very strong character
>>719519891wrong
>>719519891>Especially since Noah is not a very strong characterNeither Shulk and much less Rex were but he's the best of the bunch.
>>719494126>Noah is mary sue. Nia is quiet flat wall. Lans is just a walking steroid. Sena is wife. Eunie is okay.And only two of them are vaguely plot relevant
>>719519712Gormott was taken by Mor Ardain 50(?) years ago. After the destruction of White Chair, the Gormotti government survivors abdicated rule to whoever Niall's predecessor was. And in exchange for Gormott's raw materials such as wood, Mor Ardain would provide technical upgrades to Torigoth, utilize the military to protect them, allow Gormotti to join the Ardainian military, and eventually would serve as the seat of power after the Empire abandons the dying Ardainian Titan entirely. tl;dr Nia's claim to Gormotti lordship was already lost the moment Gormott surrendered during the war.
>noah is the best of the bunchNot even remotely close to being a valid post.
>>719494126>Noah is mary sue. Nia is quiet flat wall. Lans is just a walking steroid. Sena is wife. Eunie is okay.I will not stand this Lanz slandeing, him and Sena are by far the best characters of that game.He actually had reason to be the way he was unlike Noah which only got prompted because MUH ERABARESHI, and that last fight against D and J should have been Lanz's ascension quest.
>>719519891correct
>>719499545>Takahashi needs to let his wife write the stories again.>storiesIt's a game.It's okay to have interesting lore, but it's a game first.The problem with all the Xeno games is that the gameplay is trash. Xenogears, Xenosaga, Xenoblade and even shit like Baiten Kaitos. All shit.And if the stories were interesting, then the Xenosaga anime would have been a success instead of a massive flop.
>>719520886Please anon, enlighten us on the pinnacle of gameplay that the games should have. Unless you want to waste our time with some lowrent nonsense like braindead action combat
>>719520998action combat would actually improve the gameplay.
>>719521067not really. It would be a regression. Look at the modern final fantasy games and what lesser joke they've become.
X2 needs to go back to 4 in a row.
>>719520886Everyone knows how good the Xenogames stories are
>>719521124The problem with Final fantasy is that they don't take the approach of FF7R but they are going fulll DMC, going full DMC IS a detriment FFXVI is garbage because of that, but FF7R has lots of issues, the gameplay isn't one and that gameplay should be the one that mainline should be pursuing, but they are going for the E33 meme combat instead of betting on one they already have available and they can hone.Xenoblade will suffer if they go full turn based and staying as it is is not going to attract new blood, and regardless of whya you and I think new blood is needed once in a while.
>>719520886No. In some games the story comes first.
>>719521067Anything is better than the pseudo-MMO garbage they use now. I want to play a game, not watch the game play itself.
>>719519712Not really, but I’d really rather not spend all night agitating myself over Xenoblade 3’s swamp-ass storytelling, and Queen Nia is the easiest way to get me into that.
>>719493514If Noah actually named it the Xenoblade it would be the best one. Unfortunately Takahashi is a coward.
>>719493514Ambition outpaced ability, that's really all there is to it.
>>719493514Is this the 4channiest opinion of the current generation? We ALL hate Xenoblade Chronicles 3. I have not seen a single positive opinion about it on this board.
>>719521620Skill and intelligence issue, you weren't capable of comprehending the mechanics. That's okay friend.
>>719495945It’s called 13 Sentinels or Expedition 33 depending on what kind of experience you’re looking for.
>>719520886>JRPGs don't need a storyMiyamoto-san...
>>719521886you can see in 13 Sentinels when they ran out of money, don't get me wrong that game is on my top 10 of all time and I love it to death but you can see the butchering and the underdeveloped character(s) once you reach certain point in the game.I haven't (and won't) played E33 so I can't speak about it.
>>719521801You can literally win battles in XC1 by starting a fight and then putting down the controller. What skill and intelligence is needed there?
>>719522139Not anyone's fault but your own if you don't engage with mechanics. >inb4 quality is determined by difficult never has it ever been and enver will be outside of soulschuds
>>719522054>I haven't (and won't) played E33 so I can't speak about it.another buttmad anti-ai fag... great.
>>719522274But it is the game's fault if those mechanics aren't engaging.RPGs need to have a good story, or failing in that, good gameplay to make up for it. Xenoblade offers neither.
>>719522469I don't give a shit about AI, I don't (and won't) play the game for other reasons, AI has nothing to do with it.
>>719522712>Xenoblade offers neither.true, but also you're absolutely wrong and in the fringe minority.
>>719493967spwp
