Ofcom just forced value to have mandatory user identification. Its time for 1776 to commence again
no they didn't
>>719496284https://wccftech.com/valve-steam-age-verification-required-uk-users-uk-online-safety-act/
>>719496228you identify yourself by using your credit card on Steam retard
>>719496284>>719496429This very website had to sue your retarded government because they wanted daily fines for not imposing ID here.
>>719496613>yourwhy do anons on /v/ assume everyone who disagrees with them is specifically their enemy
>>719496228>be American>think OFCOM can do anything to meThose redcoat faggots can shove it up their ass
>>719496613Are we teaming up with the Farms now? Should I expect more anti-anime and anti-loli shitposting?
Britfag here, something of note would be that a game having sex in it doesn't seem to be enough to get credit card age gated on Steam since plenty of mainsteram titles like The Last of Us 2, Baldur's Gate 3, GTA V, and Cyberpunk 2077 don't require age verification. None of these games feature visible penetration, but they all include sex scenes and many include full-frontal nudity.It should also be noted that the Online Safety Act doesn't just mention protecting children from porn but also any "harmful" material, so Steam seemingly still isn't complying with the regulation and Ofcom could still issue a fine. Basically the extent of this law is whatever the UK government and Ofcom decide it is and you shouldn't expect consistent enforcement (just look at Google placing no age verification on image searches for porn but not getting a fine).
>>719498425Yeah duh the point is just to make it possible to arrest brits who post racist things peudoanonymously.
>>719496789>Says retarded shit>Gets BTFO>plays victimtry not defending censorship next time retard
>>719499040no seriously, why do you do it?
I'm just glad this will revive actual anonymous hacker culture by marginalizing anons into even more extreme corners of the internet. A resurgence of truly anonymous browsing thanks to the dark web, and an economy of conscious anti-controller and anti-state kings wearing tinfoil and resonant, refractive cloaks to throw off panopticon cameras and their algorithms. Sunglasses and trenchcoats and hoodies back in vogue. Nocturnal activity, homemade weaponry, mass scale murder, racism, and sweet romantic Lolitas. Double lives. Extreme anti-establishment values. The mockery of the managerial pasture-grazing class. The doxxing of the powerful. Golden days ahead.
>>719496789Given the amount of shills, agencies, and other "anon" moles in here, It's more likely than not at this point.More of a mathematical probability than an assumption,really.
>>719498425It being vague is the point, so they can enforce it however they feel.
I hope the UK gets BTFO but I support the Texas bans because I don't think Texans should enjoy anything and they should all go to jail anyways.
>>719496613retarded virtue signalling,none of what is written in the paper has any meaning
>>719499365Nah the actual amount of such people is comparatively small, most of the time it's just boogeymen tourists fixate on to hide the actual state of the board being their faultBut also /v/ seriously has this issue especially in recent years where they receive any dissenting response and hallucinate who and what anon is so they can attack that instead, talk about Americans and everyone who disagrees must be american, talk about brits and everyone who disagrees must be a brit, talk about indians and everyone who disagrees must be an indian, talk about any topic and anyone who expresses any kinda disagreement becomes some specific "You" who has, personally, committed whatever crime anon is upset aboutI guess it helps with the cope or something, to think everyone you battle is a foe or an agent sent to stop you, as opposed to just randies online not agreeing with you
>>719499601retardyou don't know what a complaint isyou don't even know what 'virtue signaling' meansjust another brown parrot repeating the words he saw someone else type on the glowing screen
>>719499687it's fucking filed to the USA court, for a british authorityas if the fucking US court has any power over a british authority you fucking retardit's virtue signalling
>>719499783>OI GUVNUH ITS OKAY FOWA MY BRI'ISH SHIT ORG TO TRY AN' TELL THE US BASED WEBSITE WOT T' DO>a lawsuit the other way around?>NOO YOU CAN'T DO THATprotip: your little cuck commissions bow down every time the US says to and this will be no different.
>>719499783livestream your suicide when Ofcom gets told to pound sand again
>>719499951I'm not british but I did like reading that british accent kek>>719499984not that simpleofcom cannot force 4chan to pay anything, but by refusing to pay ofcom can block the site in the UKkiwifarms atleast is not new to lawsuits, they know this and know this is pointless but did it for the style points I guessyou will see
>>719497760No more than usual. Im sure the kiwi niggers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts :)
>>719498425What are the chances that they'll give up on this shit within a year?
>>719500157Since you're retarded I'll break it down for you so you understandUS issues injunction -> payment processors can tell Ofcom to kiss their ass (they are US based) -> Starmer shits into his diapy and the UK is humbled, as always
>>719499643Well, this is probably before the time of anyone currently on /v/.But during the poney wars, a small organized force on a separate site, like discord could disrupt entire boards at a time with only a few posters.They were monitoring threads at all times for even the smallest mention or opening, and then called upon the others when they found one.The tactics haven't changed either, the small attack force would try to push the following claims:>There's actually a lot of us, you're the weird ones.>Ours is the popular, reasonable opinion.>You are not fighting against "us" but, "reasonable disagreements">You are setting up false enemies and randos, we have nothing to do with it.All of them, unsurprisingly, started dissipating once the mods started acting against them, and their discords were getting found out and gutted.Seeing the playbook again, is not a good sign.
Fuck Europe and fuck Texas.
>>719496613>LOLCOW, LLCHeh.
>>719500310I might add it's likely more important that it would pave the way for every other US company to ignore all their requests.That being said, I don't think that complaint is very well written.
>>719500310>ofcom is US basedso americans really
>>719500363Please don't post pictures like this I could get into trouble with my government.
>>719500492the processors, retard
>>719500492>inability to readI see why your government is 1984ing you retards without resistance kek
>>719500337>>719499643most "raids" dont exist, there may be a few small discords of a couple of idiots dedicated to being stupid on here but most of the time theyre an easy tellbut people wanna believe in them to convince themselves the shit they read isnt just bait by individual obsessives doing it for freethe only exception is the shartythat place is the only place that actually raids here on a regular basis and has enough power to do real damageotherwise discords comprised of like 2-3 teens who usually fixate purely on shilling their waifu don't get much donethe rest is true and honest anonsthat twitter post you saw? that post pretending to like something universally hated? that anon spamming about the same thing fifteen times a day? no, it's not shills or industry plants of paid pajeets or chinks or bots, it's just an obsessive faggot with too much time on his hands and the sooner we accept it the better
>>719500492>sodo*
>>719496613Reminder that Obama handed over the keys to the internet just two months before the 2016 election.
>>719498425No shit, sherlock. It's just a cudgel to keep the masses in line with. The only people it was about protecting, was those the Government doesn't want bad publicity getting out about.Enjoy your State-sanctioned Rape Gangs and Honor Killings.
>>719500524>>719500558the processors are based in the US, so that means ofcom can't block 4chan in the UK? are you fucking retarded?ofcom is not expecting 4chan to pay the fine, nobody isbut they will be blocked in the UK regardless, nothing a US court can do barring some retarded act by trump like blackmail
>eurotards laughing for years how much better they have it >all of a sudden their world turns into 1984 HOLY KEK
the great online purge is coming, far greater than it was before
>>719500363stop posting this. I just finished fapping and an hour to recover.
>>719496613So it was the damn whiteoids in Europe that have made the internet shit
>>719498425Censorship needs to be vague to work. Because that's how they abuse subjective measures to hit arbitrary things they don't like. They will also escalate slowly before hitting the biggest targets like GTA and BG3 if they're not stopped.
>>719500736https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Online_Safety_Act
>>719500736it's only the UK and the USA doing this shitthe UK is not in the EU so most eurotards disown itclown
>>719500831>July 2024, it failed to advance out of the House of Representatives before the end of the session.nice true euro cuck, where as ours failed yours is full steam ahead LMAO
>>719500696>are you fucking retarded?I don't need to ask, I know for a fact you are.
>>719500696>ofcom is not expecting 4chan to pay the fineYeah they are. Are you retarded?
>>719500872This is especially bad because more and more people are moving to the South.
>>719500872>eurotards disown itclowntell that to Finland and Germany
>>719500923yeah, ofcom knows 4chan is not going to pay and is simply following the steps to blocking the siteone of those steps is waiting for the site to respond, 4chan is not responding at all so they will just block it eventually>>719500987>reported>some say
>>719501080>yeah, ofcom knows 4chan is not going to pay and is simply following the steps to blocking the site>one of those steps is waiting for the site to respond, 4chan is not responding at all so they will just block it eventuallyBullshit. If they wanted to block them they would have done so pending payment. This is just eurocucks fishing for money from american companies, same as always.
>>719501080oh you're that kind of retard, the "we're paying for europe's free healthcare" kind of miga tardI see, nevermind sorry for wasting my timeyes anon, the UK will bow down to the USA and everything will be good as the good guys win! like always! remember to thank god and bless israel
>>719501261meant for >>719501113god I'm tired, goodnight
>>719499643You are mentally retarded and you should never open your mouth ever again.
>>719500905>where as ours failedFor now. Also you're an ESL retard.
>>719500905with trump and republicans controlling the house and the senate this shit is going to pass for sure
>>719501328The existence of documents doesn't proof the existence of the thing they describve, my uncle has documents but he hasn't been seen in the country since 1997
>>719500905KOSA came back from the dead this year. In addition, there's an even worse version of it now floating around called the SCREEN Act which explicitly calls for employing surveillance tech on sites that host ANY content deemed "harmful to minors", and gives the FTC powers to enforce it. Same guy that introduced it also introduced a bill that redefines "obscenity" to basically mean "anything that might make you hard", effectively banning all erotic content nationally. They basically want to bring back an even more gay and retarded version of the Hays Code minus all the based parts relating to race.
>>719496228ESL OP strikes again
>>719501340nta but"where as ours failed"is actually correct grammarI don't know or care what you two are arguing about, don't involve me, I just wanted to express my autism on the mattercarry on
>>719501340unless the enact this on a federal level, my state is fine. It's been defeated 4 times already and the last time died even before seeing a preliminary reading of the bill because it was so deeply unpopular.
>>719501328Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the employees actually surpass the actual users on any given thread.The damage control has also gotten pretty good, they get there almost immediately as soon as they're mentioned, it's not normal anons because if you use euphemisms they never show up, so I guess it must be either automated, or they're paid to ctrl F the catalogue, rather than lurk the boards.
>>719501487>proof isn't proofAnd that isn't the only oneRefer back to my previous comment, don't dare to open your dumbass mouth ever again, you mentally retarded troglodyte.
>>719500872Why didn't americans make a big deal out of this? Do flyover peasants want bad laws?
>>719501651Are you fronting on me on fucking 4chan? Let's fucking go then! I'll bend ya!
>>719501802they are too retarded to know this is happening as Fox doesn't mention it and they few that do think it's le good because it le owns the degeneracy or something.Small government something something something
>>719501591That's wrong.It would be the word "whereas", not the two words "where as"t. also a third party unrelated to the argument
>>719501631They do, albeit not employees per-se, 4chan is the dead internet theory incarned, the vast majority of users are bots that shill specific topics or slide threads, in the specific case of /v/ you'll see huge upticks in threads about upcoming games that have no genuine discussion in them, one of the most frequent and obvious one are WoW expansions, these spam threads generally stop as soon as the initial wave of sales is done.When it comes to other boards you'll see slide threads like interacial shit, ragebait on /pol/, /r9k/, /tv/, rarely these things are made by trolls, it's merely to lower the board quality, meanwhile boards that have specific non-politicial and non-monetary topcs, like for example the wallpaper boards have nearly no traffic these days and their traffic went down massively over the last decade, showcasing how the real number of users is tiny.
>>719500872You couldn't find a better picture?
>>719501884Ohio literally snuck their version into the yearly budget bill so no one even really voted on it. And it's one of the worst ones, too, imposing criminal charges on any website that hosts ANY "harmful" content and demanding geofencing to block VPNs. Dude weed lmao is fully legal there now but you have to dox yourself to look at some anime titties.
>>719499341Fuck yeah. Bring back schizo culture.
>>719499164/pol/ website/pol/ internet/pol/ universe
>>719502310here's hoping your fellow Drew Carry enjoyers dish out some pain at the ballot box, but the two party sportsball system does a real good job of keeping us from using that as punishmentWeirdly enough, my city and stare both do. We elect Rs to the mayor and gov positions enough to keep the Ds in line for the most part.
>>719501802>Why didn't americans make a big deal out of this?Because they were only targeting retard normalfag porn sites that donate to democrats. In texas you need age verification to access pornhub but not exhentai.
>>719502484boomers and reddit ruined /pol/. It hasn't been good since 2014. I miss /n/
>>719502653Exhentai is already locked behind having an e-hentai account. It's clearnet sites like Danbooru/Gelbooru and Paheal that you'll want to watch.
>>719502737That's how I feel about /x/ but it wasn't the Fappening or 2016 that killed that. It was shit moderation letting /b/tards raid it for weeks on end as /b/ went down a few times.Art Bell listean threads were seriously comfy times and now /x/ is dead and Art Bell is too
>>719496789If you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy!
>>719502804Okay sure except the law has been in place for like a year and no boorus have been hit.
>>719501929I've noticed certain words immediately spawn certain posters. I think the recent fake ass shit about some "cheating" in BF6 was part of the slide threats. I also remember cuckshit porn in the past days when censorship is mentioned
>>719496613>we aren't in the jurisdiction of UK law>so we're going to enforce US law on the British government???
i'll just pirate stuff then i guess
>>719496613Really hope this doesn't get anywhere. It's obvious to see how this would be a net negative.
>>719503063what i gather is getting their government to blatantly rule on record that only uk law applies to uk citizens and businesses would effectively shut down any attempt at ofcom trying to threaten non-uk site owners with uk law in the futureits not supposed to be effective in the traditional sense but set a clear example of jurisdiction overstep
>>719503543Go on, explain how.
>>719501802Well, that's a pretty easy answer. A lot of Americans don't want porn around.
>>719503543A net negative for who lol?4chan that has to pay 20k poons for everyday they didn't comply? lmao
>>719503930You could still be Anonymous by the year 2028.*shudder*
>>719496228Daily reminder to call Ofcom and boycott them by keeping their lines occupied and complain about OSA:https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/what-we-do/contact-us
>>719503063the UK has a history of trying to force their laws onto non UK citizens. Years ago they got pimp slapped by the US because they kept trying to extradite US citizens for trial in the UK because US citizens were hosting US websites on US servers that the UK didnt personally like. This lawsuit is piggy backing off the precedent set after that to get the UK to stop fucking with US hosted websites.
>>719498425The point of these laws is being overly broad so that you can selectively enforce them while pressuring platforms into censorshipIt also gives Ofcom and law enforcement a lot of power, which will inevitably lead to them becoming corrupt, but that's their goal as public employees to get more money
>>719503017You are indeed correct on everything.
>>719503017It's really funny that we might have to go back to early 4chan memespeak to have any meaningful conversation in this site, because there's always outsiders sharking around to shit on threads.lol did u tk him 2 da bar?habeeb it.
The cherry on top of this OFCOM shit sundae is that these clowns want to effectively tax websites that arent even hosted in the UK. They send you a letter demanding you implement ID verification and share user data and if you refuse they try to extort you with fines. How do they plan to do this? On what authority or force of power do they have to get what they want? Nobody fucking knows, but the UK is literally so fucking poor that they have resorted to borderline criminal extortion. Meanwhile so many international digital services are simply deciding to pull out of the UK since its too much of a pain to deal with this bullshit, which loses the UK more taxable income. I have no clue what their end game is even supposed to be here. Their economy has been in the shitter for 3 decades at this point yet they have decided to kill fuck tons of foreign money being brought into the country through this ID verification. And for what? So they can more effectively lock up its own citizenry for saying naughty words online????
>>7195037144chan doesn't really have any standing on that unless they're singling out UK IPs for age verification
>>719504579You're so immature to type like that at your age I bet you get no sex lmao get over those old memes bruh they're cringe speak in a way I can understand my brother in christ>pleasepleaseplease i dont know how to update my crawler script
>>719500872>he thinks this isnt coming to EUlmaohttps://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verificationhttps://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-uibetter lube up your asshole
>>719499164>/pol/whining
>>719504682Ofcom is already fining them daily for not adhering to their demands, what do you mean?>You're trying to fine us for not removing content, blocking uk users, or requiring uk users to use IDs, under your UK guidelines, when we are hosted in USAWhat more standing do they need to try and bring a UK company acting as an enforcement arm of UK law into line regarding hassling USA citizens and businesses (the site owners, not UK citizens browsing the sites - that's for the fucking UK to deal with, like China's firewall, not the US based admins)
>>719504616>I have no clue what their end game is even supposed to be here.You're being replaced by a lower IQ, low educated , and easy-to-control-via-by-religion slave caste. See what the English did with the Irish and the Catholic Church.The problem is being started noticing and getting outraged, and the already draconian laws about hate speech and you not owning weapons aren't working. Hence state 2 of the plan.
>>719505716people starting noticing*
>use credit card>company now has your name and address, and access to your bank account
>>719498425Funnily enough Black Souls 1 didn't have a check, could only find a check on some random games that are tagged as sexual games. Though shitty thing is that around 40% of adults don't have a credit card over here and they won't accept debit cards since you can get one younger than 18 with parent supervision. I'll just keep pirating my h-games like I normally do.
>>719505782You did it again bro, starting instead of started
>>719503930The ONLY reason Steam has a refund policy is because of laws made outside the US. The EU has way better consumer protection than the US so if that shitty case goes to court and succeeds, say goodbye to basic shit like refunds or opting out of personalized tracking data.
>>719505939I am playing games man OKAY
>>719504889Now that you mention it, the shills seem to have retreated for the most part.Maybe they don't want to entertain the idea.
>>719496789Every single Europoor deserves to have their skull caved in with a hammer. Next world war we need to team up with Russia and end your miserable existence forever.
>>719497760>Are we teaming up with the Farms nowalways have, god bless null and his crusade for free speech
>>719504616they hope enough small sites kill over and self censor or (or even more ideally) pay the fines that their reputation as a scary mob protection outfit gets big enough they can extort google and facebook one day.they think no one smaller than them have any access to lawyers or will to push back and that their reputation will just get them what they want.yes, its fucking retardedthis is not a smart operationthere's no hidden genius to it, they didnt think their own plan throughthey just want to bring in money by fines, and censor the internet the most they can without having to make the UK government actually pay out to do it themselves via monitoring and firewalling
>>719505596The fact that they aren't making an effort to ID or block UK IPs is the lack of standing. You serve clients in British territory, you're subject to British commerce law. How is this any different to the EU forcing publishers to stop killing games?
>>719506178Its so dumb that its astounding. China can do this censorship shit because they have the biggest population of consumers on the planet. Buisnesses will self censor to get that kind of money. The UK is fucking tiny and its population is poor. There is 0 incentive for anyone except the biggest buisnesses around to comply with Bongs on any of this shit. Which is fucking hilarious because on the long term this whole charade will lose them money when their government can barely afford to keep the lights on atm.
>>719506483It's even dumber when you consider they have historically been in this position several times, and they should already know both the wrong approach and the right one.
>>719496228>UKNot my problem. I don't care if they abuse their people and lock things down, they continue to vote for it
>>719506651the irony of this exact same scenario mimicking them taxing the fuck out of foreign populations ala the british empire with their colonies in the 1700s isnt lost on me
>>719506184>The fact that they aren't making an effort to ID or block UK IPs is the lack of standingExcept that's the entire point retard. The lawsuit is using prior standing from a another lawsuit ruling a decade ago about website hosting in the US breaking UK laws which the UK lost. The entire point is to establish that it is the UK government's responsibility to enforce and/or block access to non-complaint sites as their law is only effective within their borders, and it's not the responsibility of non-UK entities, who have no business operation entities within the UK, to spend their time and/or money doing the UK governments job of policing their subjects.
>>719504616International treaties like the UN cybercrime treaty that countries are going to sign
>>719496228>country is being invaded>can no longer stick your head up your ass and pretend it isn't happeningWhacha gonna do now, Basil? Cry some more?
>>719499601You absolute faggot, just go back to discord
>>719497760https://edramatica.com/Nulljust post this when you encounter any kf users in the wild. He's also the same faggot that is partly responsible for killing off imageboards.
>>719496613Being a bong I do unironically want someone to re-enact 9/11 with Ofcom's HQ. Based on this though, once they tell Ofcom to rightly fuck off 4chan will probably get banned by all ISP's here.Fucking dogshit company.
>>719506184>You serve clients in British territory, you're subject to British commerce law.Wrong, as established multiple times in cases such as Yahoo! v. LICRA and Football Dataco v. Sportradar. A website hosted in the US and operated entirely by solely US based corporate entities, with no legal business operations within Europe, is not beholden to modifying its operations to adhere to EU internet laws for which it is not under jurisdiction due to aforementioned lack of legal corporate entities within their borders.
>>719506184Do you think every news site manually blocks North Korean users? That porn sites manually ID or block Saudi Arabian or Cechen IPs? If you buy something from Baidu, you'll take them to US court?No, just because a user from another country can access your website does not mean you're subject to their fucking commerce laws, even if their faggot law wants to pretend otherwise. You can try to apply it, but won't get anywhere because *that* has no standing. Hiroyuki or Kiwifarms could just ignore this too and absolutely nothing would happen to them because of that unless they entered the UK or moved assets there. But they want to set the precedent again, that websites operated on US soil are only subject to US laws, that companies in the UK cannot expect to successfully brandish UK law against them, and to try and get the retarded bitching emails and letters to end.
>>719507187>treaty to enforce your laws on foreign nations>brought to you by the poorest country in europe that also isnt part of the EUI doubt any one would sign a treaty like that
>>719507428>.txt file image>encyclopedia dramatica sourcemay as well have just said this shit came to you in a dream
>>719506774>trying to shake down foreign entities without having a fraction of the power to swing around anymoreAnd just like Pol Pot it's small time to blast your own people but the moment you start popping off shots at someone else then it becomes a problem.
>>719506769They didnt vote for this law nor its implementation.At best the public vote for a candidate of their local area and the which party based on the figurehead of the party.What laws they actually commit to have nothing involved with the public, especially if they dont care about the partys survival
>>719507803He has his own lolcow thread on the farms where he writes this all off as "old drama"
>>719507684You underestimate how much countries want internet control, and the fact it was made at all and just needs to be signed is proof that there is interest Of course countries are hypocritical and they'll complain about other countries laws but they all want internet control, mass surveillance and police state
>>719507167>it is the UK government's responsibility to enforce and/or block access to non-complaint sitesThe fines are enforcement and if the sites don't comply they'll be blocked. Just don't pay. The only thing they can do in response is block their citizens from accessing the site. That's within their rights, isn't it?
>>719503986So it's ok when the US does it but evil and wrong when the UK does? Got it, standard 60 IQ American exceptionalism
>>719508135>they'll be blockedHa, no ISP would dare block them unless they want to lose all their business.
>>719507564thats the pesky euwe're the uk we're boss around here
>>719508146When the man with the mascara tells you jump you respond with "how high?".
>>719508275>we're the uk we're boss around hereThe pakis might be but you aren't.
>>719508268So what, the British government can't enforce their laws on British ISPs now?
>>719500872So when are we finally abandoning the talking point that the right are pro free speech?
>>719507428https://archive.is/rqfDN
>>719497760>Are we teaming up with the Farms now?Stardew Valley sucks.
>>719508471When both sides give their allegiance to a greater tribe.
>>719508458Oh they can but the problem is it'll cause greater ramifications.
>>719505969you understand that in that case, valve would have to weigh whether>a) wanted to say fuck following EU regulations, and thus face banning by all EU partners and isps, cutting off virtually all sales from europe,or>b) comply with the guidelines, to keep the access of all the EU customers to their servicewas more important, and make a business decision based on that?which..... hey funny thing, anon... b) IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.they offered it world wide because it was easier for PR, and gog or epic were touting it at the time too.a decision! based on customers and market, holy molydid you think the EU law had some sort of "you have to offer this to americans and the rest of the world too" clause in it or something? they could already get away with just sacrificing the EU customers or only offering the EU refunds, and they haven't.fear monger somewhere else.
>>719508458>>719508648Bypassing ISP locks is supe easy, if large websites stopped being cucks and started ignoring the law they could beat themWhat is the government gonna do, block Google? But they benefit from the system because it shuts down smaller platforms that have a hard time complying with laws
The biggest issue if 4chan get's banned in the UK is needing to buy a pass to post here on a VPN, especially knowing how trigger happy jannies/mods can be for banning you for stupid reasons.Personally, the idea of paying to shitpost doesn't sit right with me.
>>719500696Trump has already said he doesn't appreciate foreign governments trying to impose their censorship laws on the American tech industry and has threatened tariffs/sanctions to any country that does it.The moment the UK gets hit with a 100% tariffs or loses access to the American tech industry, they will crumble and either remove the law or watch the country collapse.
>>719508993>Personally, the idea of paying to shitpost doesn't sit right with me.Tell that to saucy. He's been going strong since 2018.
>>719508648the UK does not give a shithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_United_Kingdom
>>719500872Hmm, I wonder what almost all those states have in common.
>>719507803yeah, trusting any kind of ED source is plain retarded
>>719508993first few days back they were pretty trigger happy but ive been pleasantly surprised lately, they seem much more laid back then before you know what. which is funny considering who the co-star website of this current lawsuit stuff is.
>>719509106Consider that Google would have to become one of those sites anon.
>>719496613Based Null carrying the Internet
>>719507684Just a reminder, China passed a law that makes it illegal to criticise the CCP and it applies not only globally, but to the whole of known (and unknown) existence in all forms. It makes no exceptions for anyone at all and gives China the right to punish people with prison time.When Trump says Chyna bad, he is literally breaking the law and according to the CCP he should be in prison. Most of the UK government has also broken this law at one point or another.If we really want to start enforcing these kinds of laws, maybe we should help some Chinese cops bust down the doors of 10 downing street...
>>719508993I post a lot and while I won't pretend I am some jet set faggot whose time is worth liquid gold, using a solver is a gay waste of time as is actually doing them. However, you are 100% correct about the bans and the jannyfaggies using the passes to collect hate ban lists on you, so it's not worth it.
Why are they making this shit so much more complicated than it needs to be?If you really want to do this shit, make it at the ISP level. When you sign up for your Internet service, check a box if you want porn allowed on it. Same thing with phone plans. It would have exactly the same efficacy in stopping kids from seeing inappropriate content (which is to say very little, there will always be workarounds) while respecting privacy.
>>719509573>Why are they making this shit so much more complicated than it needs to be?because the goal of this is not what the stated goal of this is? Obviously
>>719509045He doesn't like that it's foreign censorship but he wouldn't mind his own censorship, considering he said the internet needs to be closed up in some way
>>719509420Yeah it's been okay, but I literally got permabanned a while back for telling a janny to kill themselves.(Repealed it and got unbanned but that was a year later.)I don't exactly trust the people the moderation here. Seems like powertripping and banning has gotten worst since Moot left.
>>719509531>but to the whole of known (and unknown) existence in all forms. It makes no exceptions for anyone at all and gives China the right to punish people with prison time.Good luck trying to arrest the Jamaican ayys bro. Humanity can barely go past mach 10 let alone sublight and FTL speeds.
>>719509625he'll be dead soon from the looks of his health and while Vance is a Thiel puppet it looks like neither him nor Thiel want whatever the UK's plan for the internet is since they've both spoken out against it
>>719496228Are bong children allowed to have credit or debit cards?
>>719509690The law is absurd and China has no way to enforce it, but it exists and it is no different from the law the UK passed.Like I said, if the UK thinks it can impose it's laws globally, then maybe we should have China enforce it's laws and have them go and lock up most of the British government.Just saying.
>>719509531Australia was trying to buy tech from China to censor the internet, they all talk about democracy but if they aren't stopped or controlled by their own mechanisms the natural tendency of states is to become dictatorships like China
>>719509573>When you sign up for your Internet service, check a box if you want porn allowed on it.Anon, there no feasible way of doing that. If there was they would have targeted every site simultaneously.
How censored do you think the internet will be by 2030?
>>719496613Because I don't give my credit card number to 4chan, retard>he bought le pass
Holy shit there are a lot of kiwi troons dog piling on thisI hate to say it but the Brits might actually be right if pedophile farms is opposing this so much.
>>719509725They don't like that the UK is censoring hate speech, i.e. anti-immigrant right win rethoric but he wouldn't mind censoring "anti-american" speech or porn
>>719509573Jesus christ how horrifying.>Sorry, your website does not meet COMCAST's internal guidelines to be included under our DISCUSSION BOARD parameters, because we found the content on your website to violate rule RACI.4587-b>As a result, your website will be globally blocked
>>719509836You won't be getting tiddie mods for TES6 if that's what you're looking forward to.
>>719509775The point isn't to enforce it, the point is having an excuse to arrest people or violate their rightsAnd the UN treaty might mean that other countries have to share people's data with them
>>719509782A lot of people up in the hardcore political talks right now are in a frenzy because the GDP of the EU or the US is not looking good compared to BRICS countries, and especially China, so if we don't have any idea how our current capitalistic model will suddenly outperform China, the other choice is to take lessons from China, including their disgustingly draconian surveillance state, that bans pornography and culls its citizen to be good and disciplined and work extremely long hours and never stick out like in good communism.That's what's going on. We'll probably be working 9 to 9 by 2030, and computers are strictly work-machines, not meant for gaming or internet leisure.The whole "it's a free country" thing fucking died a slow death after 9/11 and with the Stock Crash in 2008.
>>719509793Actually, in the UK it's mandatory all ISPs provide comprehensive filters that are turned on by default. All phone providers also require the same.Basically, there should be no way for kids in the UK to actually access porn, it should all be blocked by default. If a kid can access porn in the UK it's because their parents allowed them. This new law is actually less comprehensive and secure than what the UK already had, and much easier to bypass.
>>719510016Ok, so when is Keir Starmer being arrested for breaking Chinese law?
>>719510051Trying to stave off that demographic collapse by pouring top alcohol on the fire.
>>719509725This is naive. The US is basically condemning China while slowly turning MAGA US into a copy of it. It's just political spin. Politicians always say what the voters want to hear while acting counter to it behind the scenes.
>>719497760Die pedophile.
>>719496613>>719504169The problem with this is that the UK government isn't forcing it on non-UK citizens. They've told gookmoot to either implement the ID shit for UK users or block the site for UK users. 4chan & Kiwi Farms are making it an American free speech issue which is probably going to be very easy to retort in a courtroom. The UK gov definitely needs to get bitchslapped in court (they're deciding to fine websites on a daily basis when they could just simply block it from their end) but I think gookmoot is going at this from the wrong angle.
>>719510051Our GDP is doing badly because we have been rolling back democracy, free speech and impeding free commerce by drowning small businesses in regulations, making tariffs and pumping debt into large and wasteful large corpos and bullshit like crypto or AIWe don't need to be like China we need to become proper democracies
>>719510053Anon you don't get it. Filters only work if they're constantly updated they would have to filter every site that can host porn which would also massively affect search engines.
>>719505969no, for starters, because valve never implemented EU refunds. they simply use the EU waiver for digital delivery, which you have to agree to when you buy games on steam. the EU refund protection doesn't have limits like 2 hours of playtime or 2 weeks since purchase. those are limits that valve invented on its own, and they don't even have to give you that since you, unlike the rest of the world, literally sign away your refund rights. the only reason all these EU policies are given any sort of compliance effort at all is because they're so easy to bypass with a simple line of text. just like with GDPR, all they have to do to keep collecting and storing and sharing your info is to say "for legitimate business purposes". it's all performative and if that's all it takes for american companies to have unfettered access to your money, they're fine with that.
>>719509959NOOOOooooooo....
>>719510209>Politicians always say what the voters want to hear(You) must live outside of the EU
>>719510090Hasn't been signed yet, doesn't allow for arrest or extradition just sharing of information
>>719510150I think ultimately it's about where the power is, and right now that's in the data that is collected and used with surveillance. There's troves of money in collecting it and selling it, and there's a lot of power in being the country that has the most of it. That's what OSA/KOSA/Palantir/Hyper-policing is REALLY about. It's about making sure China loses its head-start in the data collection war.It's going to suck not being a good goy the next 20 years, and honestly I think a lot of us who go to this site will have our doors knocked down eventually no matter what we've been posting here, at SOME POINT, because if Ofcom says this is an "obscene site" with "harmful content", they're probably not the only ones to do so, when the next Face-scan / ID laws get put into effect elsewhere, and it's allll an excuse to collect as much data as possible on one's own citizens, so that each country owns the data of their people, and not their adversaries who have been collecting it through the internet.That's probably also the real reason why UK, and probably the EU wants 4chan blocked off. They know the NSA is using this site to gather data on every non-US user here, and each country needs to be the one that at least has its own people's data, and use that somehow in this big data trading war or whatever the fuck it's about.
>>719496228brits are cucked and wont do shit
>>719508896If that stupid case wins Valve could say "sorry we're not bound to laws outside the US" and sue the EU citing the previous case as precedent, win, and then no longer give refunds.You fucking retard.
>>719510382No, but close. In Denmark they say a lot of what voters want, which prevents the polls from showing an overt rise in the Far Right. It's because we were apprehensive of several EU staples back when the union formed, so we still have our own currency with no promise to change it to Euros at any point, and we still have our own rules for police, and our Migration rules are also less dependent than in other member states, but we're just beholden to the "Human Rights" agreement, which prevents deportations, and that's what's being worked on lately.
>>719510320All UK ISPs are partnered with companies like net nanny that have software and maintain lists like this.You can log on to any router in the UK and it has software installed to allow you to block any and all content you want. You can block entire categories, certain websites in particular, and even add websites to whitelists so they are always accessible. You can even set up restrictions like only being able to use the internet for so many hours a day, or at certain times.And all of these settings can be customized to each connected device, so you can block porn on a kids device but not on your own.Again, if a kid can access porn in the UK it means they had parents who disabled this software, or they were bypassing it (and if they can bypass this software, they can bypass the age checks required by the OSA).It has been a law that ISPs provide this type of software turned on by default for over 10 years now.
>>719510480Sounds like a proto Self Aware Colony with none of the energy savings involved. Here's your cyberpunk hellscape with 0% of the cool shit bro.
>>719497760
why are british people so fucking retarded?
>>719510305I think the issue is, why does the UK think it has any jurisdiction in this matter?The company is registered in America and does not operate in the UK. It's servers are located in America. It hires no British people and has no assets anywhere in the UK.What gives the UK any jurisdiction over 4chan?
>>719510657>Here's a sci-fi/cyberpunk setting with none of the cool shitIsn't that how reality usually is? It's not flying cars, it's just drones. It's not self-reprogramming computers with consciousness, it's just retarded regurgitation of farmed data humans made etc. We're not going to Mars, it's just Elon being a con artist, and launching space shuttles that explode on liftoff.
>>719509775China is one of, if not the world's biggest trading partner. I'm pretty sure they have a lot of power to enforce shit outside their borders
>>719510870I eagerly await the day we see Keir Starmer being arrested by Chinese police and extradited to China to face time in one of their prisons.
>>719510870This. So much of what even the Conservatives are doing lately, is to compromise on the business relations with China because it's allll about our economy at the end of the day, freedoms be damned.
>>719510305>making it an American free speech issueI don't really see how. Several paragraphs do mention that and censorship sure, but ultimately the goal is stated as being to stop OFCOM from trying to fine or imprison the webhosts for not violating the civil liberties of its users. Whether free speech is mentioned or not, OFCOM's capacity to act as a moral arbiter and dole out punishments for violating their guidelines is the base of it.I guess the extra emphasis on freedom of speech is just due to Hiroyuki and Null being poorfags and going with a free speech bar lawyer kek
>>719496613NO MORE BROTHER WARS
>>719510870>Inb4 Opium Wars 2.0Making up for that century of international buckbreaking.
>>719507428>>719507969
Zuckerberg will save us. He'll pull Facebook and Instagram from the UK and then that's when the three days of darkness begin.
>>719503063It's always the bongs starting shit. 4chan already blocked UK IPs to avoid trouble, but the government still wanted to go after them legally.
I miss the days when the government had no idea what the internet was
>>719510305>They've told gookmoot to either implement the ID shit for UK users or block the site for UK usersAnd they have absolutely no authority whatsoever to do that, and even attempting to do it can be perceived as an act of hostility against the United States government. You can't impose sanctions on a US-based site to US American citizens to do what you want unless you plan to conquer the US in the process. If you don't want UK citizens to go to 4chan, then it's entirely up to the UK government to figure out how to implement that. An American-based website doesn't have any obligation whatsoever to cater to a foreign government just because they hold the title of generic status of "government."
>>719510958UK citizens have no such civil liberties, and it's not up to 4chan Community Support to defend their non-existent rights
>>719496228>Valve's own internal payment processing systemSo they don't use Visa or Mastercard's systems?
>>719496228This would be a nothingburger if a debit card was enough but you need to use a credit card which is something only half of bongland have and it certainly isn't the half that play eroges.
>>719511219So why would a US district court have authority over a sovereign government? It's a self defeating argument
>>719507428
>valueYou retards have gotten so use to typing le funny reddit maymay v for u that you forgot how the fuck to spell.
>>719510530>and get blocked by the EU isps enforcing the law within their own, actual jurisdictionthey can't enforce their law on valve in the USthey can enforce their law on valve within their borders
>>719506091Ok chaim.
>>719511337It's not, but it's not up to them to censor themselves or conduct themselves in a way to modify their own website to help King Bong shit on them anymore than he is already, either, since the 4chan servers and staff are not on King Bong's land.
>>719506184>every website needs to comply with every single law in every single country on earth You are a fucking retard.
>>719511648Are you insane? Why in the world do you think they would need to? All they'll do is firm reminder that foreign laws do not apply on American soil. If the UK government pushes forward anyway despite being politely told to fuck off, then it's becomes an act of hostility. What? Do you believe that either the US will sent you to stand trial in a foreign court for a law that out own laws stipulate doesn't apply to you or you think some Brits with batons will show up at your door to drag you to Britain? Hell, it would never happen regardless of who was in charge, but the Trump Administration especially would rather nuke London than let Fuher Starmer think for a second that he can supercede US law.
>>719511648They are Americans, operating a business out of America, with assets only in America, subject only to American law.You're breaking some North Korean law right now, by being on the free internet.Do you think they have any sort of legal right to arrest you? If the Mongolian government sets up a website that says "if you enter this website, you are in violation of our internet law and you owe 2000 horsebux" and you go to it, they are able to fucking fine you as the Brazilian citizen you are?
>>719509573>If you really want to do this shit, make it at the ISP level. When you sign up for your Internet service, check a box if you want porn allowed on itDigital Economy Act 2017, Requiring Internet service providers to use Internet filters to block all websites that have adult content, unless customers have opted out.
>>719512371They are literally being taken to the DC district court over this
>>719512581I don't understand what point you're trying to make. The entire point of taking OFCOM to court is specifically for >a firm reminder that foreign laws do not apply on American soil
>>719511746case in point: sweeping for Andy Warski who streamed CP on 2/28/19
>>719512762I'm not asking why they're being sued. I'm asking why the court's judgement would even matter
>>719512862It's just a legal middle finger. It's just meant to end the issue entirely by showing how little power they have in the most embarrassing fashion possible.This isn't a legal battle. This is "Uncle Sam, the mean man with bad teeth is trying to bully me again. Could you please go call him a pussy punk bitch in public so that he knows his place?"
>>719512862A US company will have a very clear and recent example to point to next time Ofcom comes begging them for money, giving the US company ample peace of mind that they can ignore this knuckledragging extortion racket, and Ofcom would further dig its own hole if it ever did have dreams in the future of having any sort of assets or presence or legal case (even in the miniscule chance of a favorable one!) in the US.It is all very gay, but they are operating on such a bullshit, ephemeral plane of existence of "I have authority over everyone, just trust me bro" getting them to show their ass should character assassinate them enough to keep them in check (as far as foreign websites go, if you're a webhost with servers in the UK you're on your own)
>>719496613>They will make a movie or docu drama about this debacle someday in the future KINO
>>719512862Because it sets a legal precedent. Why is this hard for you to understand?The US uses common law, which means if a court says the UK cannot impose it's laws on US companies, it effectively becomes a law in the US. It means no US company is obligated to follow UK laws outside of the UK.
>>719513449So... Let's say the UK is found guilty. What's to stop them from saying fuck off and fining US websites anyway? US law holds no authority over them
>>719500363BECKY ToT!
>>719513646A) That practically be a declaration of warB) How....would they do that to begin with?
>>719513646Holy shit we're going in circles.
>>719513646Nothing stops them, but they have no legal recourse to seek those fines be paid, because US court has said the UK has no authority over US businesses.It basically denies the UK any legal method of obtaining any money in fines from a US business.It would probably also cause a diplomatic issue if the UK keeps pushing it and likely result in Trump either putting tariffs on the UK or sanctioning it and key members of ofcom (they've already mentioned doing this if they don't drop the issue).
>>719511151>4chan already blocked UK IPs to avoid troubleNo it didn't. You read a bait picture with an obvious spelling error.t. posting from the UK without a vpn
>>719513646THEY WILLThe US hosts will have precedent to fire back with.The US hosts will know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they can safely ignore their extortion attemptsOfcom, by losing or by admitting they are not effected by outside law, would have a more damaged image and reputation, effecting their extortion attempts in the future.
>>719513824Isn't that already the case? What are they going to do currently if the fines aren't paid?Neither side has any leverage
>>719513739I mean, you just keep answering with US law as if it means anything
>>719512771I doubt either of those things happened.
>>719513969A court ruling would put it in writing that you do not have to pay this fine. If there any any legal avenues the UK could take to collect these fines within the US legal system, they would also lose those.In effect it changes nothing, but it just makes it clear US companies do not have to pay any attention at all to ofcoms threats because they will never be able to follow through with them.
>>719513969Ofcom has been at it for a long time. A high profile win is becoming more and more important for telling them to fuck off, especially in light of all the other overt censorship and increased attention to it lately. It might be enough of an embarrassment to hurt their funding, and again, it gives more certainty to future targets that they have no fucking teeth.>>719514028Because you don't seem to understand what an advantage it is, either to win, or to metaphorically knock the bully down a peg in full view of the nerds he'll try to threaten in the future.
>>719513969>>719514028The US companies don't need any leverage as they don't want anything from OFCOM but for them to fuck off. If (when) it's stated that they have no legal basis to impose fines on US citizens, what the UK wants at that point doesn't matter at all because they can't just magic money out of people's bank accounts. The most they could do is shake their fist menacingly unless they want to deal with the US government directly.
The British government and their underlings at ofcom seem to think they have any market share or soft power left over after voluntarily leaving the most powerful regulatory economic bloc in the world and becoming the sick man of Europe again like in the 70's. They do not. American corporations unironically need to start buttfucking our government to get them to stop taking away all or our civil liberties.
>>719509531>>719509690>Good luck trying to arrest the Jamaican ayys bro. Humanity can barely go past mach 10 let alone sublight and FTL speeds.AYO FUCK CHINAXI IS A BITCH WINNIE THE POOH ASS NIGGA
>>719512771qrd?
>>719504169>they kept trying to extradite US citizens for trial in the UK because US citizens were hosting US websites on US servers that the UK didnt personally likeThe US would never extradite a non-American for breaking US law outside of America, right?
is this what greed and deception really looks like, /law/?
>>719514603Of course not
>>719514484>flies over the Summer Palace>adjusts the onboard LRADs for maximum sonic saturation >takes a quick toke before belting out the loudest Bombaclot the world has ever heard>flies back to Andromeda after picking up a few crates of pristine Mexican Coca Cola made from high quality cane sugar
>>719514887Kek.
>>719501802old karens are in control of most of the midwest
>>719513646>fining US websites anyway? US law holds no authority over themHow can they fine US websites, or any foreign website for that matter? UK law also has no authority over foreign websites. They can only fine whatever companies operate in the UK.
>>719509191Hmmmm yes, I wonder what
>>719496228Does this basically only affect accounts that never bought anything on steam?
>>719508471the UK is left wing right now
>>719515396anyone can fine you. the question is how legally binding and enforceable it is on the client. ofcom wants you to overlook that question and just send them shekels and say sorry massa, no more paki jokes on my website massa.
>>719511172>I miss the days when the government had no idea what the internet wasthis is all happening because the goverment STILL has no idea what the internet is
>>719515613It's really not. Labour hasn't been left wing since before Tony Blair. Both main parties are extremely authoritarian and mostly conservative with no interest at all in liberal reforms and civil liberties. Labour isn't even economically left wing either, people call the prime minister Kid Starver because he keeps taking away everyone's benefits.Neoconservative slave labor importation is a bipartisan objective.
>>719515771>It's really not. Labour hasn't been left wing since before Tony Blair. Both main parties are extremely authoritarian and mostly conservative with no interest at all in liberal reforms and civil liberties. Labour isn't even economically left wing either, people call the prime minister Kid Starver because he keeps taking away everyone's benefits.is that why i cannot tell the difference between the two parties?
>>719515724True, but unlike before, they're actively aware of its existence.
>>719515910They are the exact same, yes. There is like 1 or 2 extreme fringe issues nobody gives a shit about that they disagree on but everything else is full bipartisan support. This online safety act bill was put into parliament by the Tory govt, voted on and all Tories and Labour voted yes to it, and then implemented under a Labour govt. They just REALLY hate everyone in the country that is below the upper class that they inhabit and want to strip them of the last of their rights. Rules for thee and not for me and whatnot.
I got banned from troonwi farms for pointing out how retarded people sound for sucking Nulls cock 24/7
>>719515771there are no right wing parties. all political "choices" are: unlimited foreigners and continued anti-white miscegenation suffocationist "feminist" propaganda that's been ongoing for a very long time to ensure white people cannot maintain their own nations.
>>719517082right wing means neo-nazi apparently?
>>719517534right wing means what the men of america and other western nations who fought the nazis believed, snivelling ratfink
>>719516706you just gotta wait until he does something unpopular and not worth agreeing with like try to shut down the dsp forum again then you'll get your quarterly pig roast
>>719517638why the emphasis on white people then, rabbi?
>tfw no U_Mgf
>>719517758? ww2 was white v white and both sides believed in le 14 words
>>719517903whatever you say jewbag
>>719517959>jewbag
>>719517959are you implying ww2 vets were mentally brokie wokies like your sad crew?
>>719518082yes there were blacks and jews on the allies' side and both presidents were democrat
>>719518229>blacksthat's turned out great>jewsanother winner>democratim sure they wanted gender neutral bathrooms for the military
kek
>>719497760>more anti-anime and anti-loli shitposting?it's been like that for fucking weeks, along with the gaslighting as both sides of the political spectrum try to pin the blame on each other. I'm sick of it all
>>719513646What happens if the US makes it illegal for the UK to host websites?
>>719518335cant believe my family who fought the nazis were white nationalist nazi CHUDS!
>>719518335>gender neutral bathroomswhats wrong with the toilets on a plane or the ones in your house?
>>719518341>He might have a really rare ages-at-0.5-speed-disease, just make sure
>>719518467>been this way for weeksIs this your first month here?
>>719518993it was a bad example because the military was all male back then (it had to function well)if you dont know why men and women want different bathrooms in many settings then you're just being a reddit contrarian homosexual
>>719497760as much as i hate the kiwiniggers, the head janny is more organized in america. Other netizens and weebs will just host their content to another site. retreating and regrouping at infinitium.meanwhile america, makes up most of important internet services and fuck choosing a side. My side is the one that lets me post plana with a micobikini
>>719510279*der
>>719518993>toilets on a planeOne person only.>ones in your houseNot public.
>>719500363I'm not american but does the states, america, and european states matter when the internet is global. Japan and china has their own internet services for example
>>719496613God bless the US, love from the UK. P.S. fuck this faggot nigger government.
>>719509836It won't be because we'll all be dead.
>>719509573They don't really care about porn or the children, it's about censoring free speech and removing privacy so that they can send the police to arrest you for your spicy thought crimes.
>>719509836There will be no porn. There will be no hentai. There will be no eroges. There will only be safe-horny gachashit. Enjoy the spats!
>>719519259things have gotten particularly bad these last few months, faggot. it hasn't been this bad in forever. literal dozens of posts flooding threads, calling everyone who dislikes government overreach and censorship pedos.
>>719496613what's the qrd on null and the kiwifarms? Dosen't the head admin hate loli and vtubers? Don't both usersbase hate each other? and why does ofcom matter when they have no jurisdiction to American site? Why can't americans sites just geoblock uk visitors? -/vg/bag/ger
>google "neonazi policies">no results about nazi policies at all>go to wikipedia neonazi page>reads like an ADL deradicalization program>ZERO discussion of neonazi policies at allkek
>>719519790but only if you're in a conservative state/country. Blue states can enjoy these no problem as they always have
>>719519865UK ISPs will ban 4chan eventually. Which people will be able to get around with a 30 second google search like they do for torrent sites after they got "blocked" too.
>>719519993When's the next Senran Kagura game coming out?
4chan will be fine. Ofcom just didn't get the memo from every three letter agency on the planet yet.
>>719496228their user identification outside of the UK is literally just "you're over 18 if you have a credit card on file" which is more than fair.
>>719520317Then why does every M rated game's store page still ask me to enter my birthday?
>>719519865Schizophrenic head janny but surprisingly stubborn and fought censorship and deplatforming and debanking for years to keep his lolcowcentric somethingawful type forum up for nearly a decade. When it comes to keeping his website online he actually has backbone. Says he keeps getting recommended degenerate anime, lolifags are annoying users on websites because they always keep pushing the limits, and he had to kowtow and put in a vtuber section. OfCom doesn't matter but they're trying to build an image for themselves that they should be listened to, they started trying to push the UK OSA onto Murican webhosts by threatening fines for not keeping records of OSA-violating posts and content, manually reporting these to OfCom, or taking steps to manually block UK users from accessing their website or otherwise alter the websites to fall within guides to allow the UK users to 'legally' visit it. Obviously, American sites would prefer not to just block UK visitors because a company -not even a branch of UK government officially, a business- is offering up legal threats that are in no way legally enforceable on an internet business hosted entirely in another country.
>>719519973Neo-Nazi policies are just too dangerous to our Democracy for you to even know what they are, citizen. Have your ID card and retina scanner ready for verification by EpsteinCorp in Israel.
>>719520194i guess when blue states decide because they own sony, the IP, and the creator?
>>719514459Honestly this.As a bong I hope Google drops our ass and we get dunked into the dark ages for a bit and backpedal this insane shit.
>>719515573Nah bongers use debit cards over credit mostly
>>719515573It affects anyone without a credit card(50% of bongland). And I guarantee the 50% that have credit cards don't play eroges or wegshit. This is exclusively an attack upon the NEET. Weirdly enough at the same time that the NEET is getting buttfucked by Universal Credit(gibs) getting "overhauled"
>>719514887>rapes you
>>719520559Ofcom is just a company? I thought they were the UK Government
Bonganons' only options are as follows>Cuck and provide a credit card(if you have one)>VPN to change account region at the risk of a ban>Purchase any sexually explicit games through other storefronts from now onAn important thing to note is that this new level of censorship does absolutely nothing to games already in your library.>>719521537No, like a lot of Britains """governmental services""" it's outsourced to corporations.
>>719521326Sounds like a great way to make an underclass of extremely hateful people with way too much time on their hands.Didn't your government learn this lesson the first time with the Irish?
Anyone else feel like they want to hijack a nuke and start WWIII?
>>719521605>An important thing to note is that this new level of censorship does absolutely nothing to games already in your library.Oh you can still log in? who gives a shit then?
>>719521126>>719521326Oh. What the fuck is the difference between them for steam though
told you dudes. credit card jews weren't gonna stop
>>719521635there are a lot of mentally ill freaks ready to be used by the special interests, you aren't unique
>>719521635mister agent your glow is a little dim today
>>719496228Lel good going steamines, nice service you got there
>>719521767>Oh. What the fuck is the difference between them for steam thoughDebit is a different thing altogether that you can get with just a bank account. No background check or age limit required. I don't know if UK Banks require an age limit or ID but you can open a bank account with a minor as long as a parent signs for them in the US. Can't with Credit Cards because of the nature of the fact that you can go into debt with them and never get out.
>>719521767You need to be 18 to take on debt yourself (Credit card)But I had a debit card at like 5 because I had money in a bank back then.In short a credit card is proof of age where a debit card is not.
>>719521635fantasy death missiles aren't real
>>719521806Who the fuck has the interest of "wanting to kill everyone (incluiding himself)? Those white guys from smt4?
>>719521767Bongs can get a debit card anytime, you can only get a credit card if you're over 18 and employed, debit cards can't go overdrawn, credit cards can.
>>719521605>No, like a lot of Britains """governmental services""" it's outsourced to corporations.KEK so wait this is just a UK business threatening US businesses with legal action that doesn't fucking apply in the US? Why does ANYONE listen to them? Literally all of their voicemail and legal threats should go straight to the garbage.
>>719521326This shit made me sign up for a fucking credit card (which I probably won't use all that much, only for the kike requirements)
>>719496613lol never gonna work
>>719521860>>719521864>>719521920Fair enough that actually makes sense then. I just think of them both as bank cards but credit having an age limit is actually logical.>debit cards can't get overdrawnI'm pretty sure they can but it depends on your bank account so maybe the kid accounts just always disable overdraft.Ok but realistically though what prevents a parent from just putting their credit card on all their kids' steam accounts?
>>719522002Nothing at all.
>>719522002>Ok but realistically though what prevents a parent from just putting their credit card on all their kids' steam accounts?Nothing, and in fact this is what is probably going to happen to actual kids so this really only affects NEETs and losers.
>>719496228based Project 2025
>>719522002Its never been about the kids
>>719521921When the government outsources enforcement to a business it vests that business with some corresponding authority. Just like how private prisons in the US have authority to keep people forcibly locked up, something which would be considered kidnapping if someone else did it. Or how the federal reserve is a private business who's allowed to print money, something which would be called counterfeiting and get you raped (possibly in a private prison) if anyone else did it
>>719500363>We live in a timeline where conservatives have made looking at pictures like this a felony on par with having actual CPGET ME OUT
>>719522002Yes my mistake, debit overdraw is opt-in once you hit 18. And literally nothing stops you. Although now bongs have explicit content turned off by default in their settings making NSFW opt-in just like it always was. SFW ecchi and violent games such as DOOM or even Hatred are fine though, this is purely sexually explicit content, all other forms of violence are untouched by Ofcom as of now but don't worry, i'm sure they'll get to it.
>>719522234Anorexic girls have really fat pussies.
>>719522234Could be worse. You could be shamed by libs for liking sexy girls. That is way worse than making things felonies
>>719521913russia and israel would love some retarded distraction like nuke going off in britain
>>719519273>I signed up for a vendor account with your service, which terms include an explicit ban on adult content, and then used it to profit from adult content and had my account banned as the terms stated. Enjoy your lawsuit!I'm sure they will enjoy walloping you in court and having you pay for their corporate lawyers, retardWhat is with all these fucking tards thinking that just because they're butthurt about paypal it just means they auto-win disputes?
>>719522545Also helps distract from Epstein
>>719500872>>719502173Here's the current track record for age verification aka defecto porn bans per states.>All conservative states minus Alaska, Iowa and West Virginia now have passed an age verification law >All swing states except for Virginia have voted it down or refused to take it up.>All liberal states have voted it down or refused to take it up.You should find out both your state and federal rep and senator support it, and if they do, vote them out in their primary or federal election.Simple as.
>>719522621bros...I thought it was the libs that did this and not us?
>>719496228At what point will companies just decide keeping the UK's user base is not worth putting up with their government's bullshit and pull out like they did with China?
Brazil recently passed some stuff similar to UK shit, despite already having bunch of laws protecting kids.
>>719496228If it's a SP game, then download it, disconnect internet and play it.
>>719520512Because anon is talking shit.
>>719515771>this isn't trve communism>both parties are fascists>just look at the>freedom of religion>gay marriage>pro-transgender laws>feminist laws>a right to privacy and family life>immense amount of liberties granted to everyone, including non-citizens>that commonwealth citizens are granted the liberty to vote in elections>right to remain/residency/citizenship are just "Live here for a few years">NHS for all>school for all>welfare for all>pensions for all>gypsy, chav and roadman are all protected characteristics>muh bennies!I hate you and that you actually represent the opinions of the retards in my country. Our "Right wing" party's last and current leader are brown, their previous leaders are all of Jewish heritage. Our "Left wing" party is married to a Jew.We are an incredibly liberal country and we pay people to sit around doing fuck all with their lives.
>>719515910What applies to America, also applies to the UK.At least you can try to reset things with Jeremy Corbyn's new party, which should give an actual voice to liberals if you guys don't fuck up.
>>719520512because they don't want to store your birthday
>>719496228Ok, why are they allowed to legally extort websites into paying for their service? Should this be paid for by U.K. taxes?
>>719500872based Indiana not having any of that shit
>>719501802flyovers love authoritarianism
>>719515613lol
>>719525252California has no room to talk, being Newsom's bitch. lollmao
>>719525395are you mad about the redistricting?
>>719501884This is the big problem, America's media is fully controlled by conservatives now due to they're either already a shill for them or just knelled out of fear of being locked out.The lie that it's liberal was fully dispelled with the Epstein list and how the media just dropped it after trump ordered them too.So of course people think everything being expensive as fuck and unaffordable is fine now because the media isn't telling them to be outraged about it. Or giving up your rights is a good thing because it's for security and you gotta watch out for foreigners.
>>719525459No, I'm mad about coasters talking shit about anyone when they live in in the most degenerate states in the country
>>719514084>>719514597Andy got involved in a pedo hunting op and went through the evidence on stream. This is separate from the time he tried to sext a 15 year old who he thought was 17.
>>719524386This image is literally a reversal of what actually happened. The west has been pulled steadily leftwards since the 60s and actual right-wing parties get stunted, subverted by intelligence or outright banned while mainstream "center-right" parties slide ever downwards accepting more and more of the left's advances and "progress". An actual right-wing party would not go "DEMS R REAL RACISTS", they would say "yes, and?" or just explain why "racism" is just a pathologization of normal human instincts and nation-forming behavior. There are literally faggots and trannies in the Republican party right now, by the way.
>>719513864not for much longer lol
>>719524984>Should this be paid for by U.K. taxes?They are on a technical legal level completely unrelated from the UK government, they are an "independent middleman consumer protection group" and gets no tax money. This is a big crux in Hiroshimoot and Nulls lawsuit against them. As identifying as independent from the UK government they are also voiding several foreign government organizational immunities that the US recognizes as international law, allowing them to be sued as non-governmental entity.
>>719522661It's old people. It's always been old people
>>719523929>that commonwealth citizens are granted the liberty to vote in electionsWait really? You mean Australians can vote in the UK elections? Why don't they tell us that?
>>719497760Something about the good guy teaming up with the bad guy to fight an even badder guy.
>>719525729yea everyone loves coasters because they generate the most revenue and have the least censorship
>>719526947I wish we lived in this alternate timeline you constructed, we wouldn't be so poor.
>>719527907Now try taking a walk outside without getting raped or stabbed or being neck deep in needles or illegal immigrants
>>719528474dittoyou "governments are all right-wing, actually" people never fail to make me laugh
>>719506769nobody voted for this law and their government's reply to multiple hundred thousand signatures demanding it be discussed and/or nulled was "lol no we don't want to do that"
>>719522589>LEAVE THE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE!
>>719522589All of this could be solved if we went back to honor duels. My gamer rage could beat the shit out of any champion PayPal chooses to fight me.
>>719528823same but with red states
>>719496228>Its time for 1776 to commence againyou're glowing hon
>>7194962281776 is our year in the USA. Since none of this applies to us, fuck you.
>>719510846>why does the UK think it has any jurisdiction in this matter?because it does4chan is "operating" in the ukso they have to comply with uk rulesif they dont they get finedthey dont want to block access because they want the money from the fine or place the blame on citizens not having access to the site on the site owners because they would have to block access to the uk to avoid finesif the government blocks a website they get more pushback from citizens than if they just force the website to block the uk.(((banker))) tactics.
>>719510305>block the site for UK usersthat's your retarded governments problem, they don't want to do that because it would prove they're a censorious nanny state.Tell your dipshit government to stop pretending and get on it.
>>719529006Except we live in a right wing regime.
>>719511648>So why would a US district court have authority over a sovereign government? It's a self defeating argumentthe pooK has authority within it's borders anywhere we are thankfully free to ignore your disgusting third world shihthole.
>>719501328>The user base is highly paranoid about being researched and surveyed.How is it paranoia when they're correct about it?
>>719496228may as well pirate everything at that point
>>719500987What is Finland doing?
>>719496613Just ban 4chan in the UKProblem solved
you voted for it and get what you deserve, chuddie
>>719531918Didn't both 4chan and farms already block UK ip addresses? Why is britbong government still mad at them?
>>719496228>>719496613L
>>719510305If they block it straight up without asking first it showed the law was never about child safety then no one will take it serious. That is why 4chan will be up till the very last minute they can hold on too.
>>719530181But you have to add getting kidnapped and your organs harvested by the right wing death squads trump has.
worst era to be alive
It was nice seeing /v/ stand up against the shills and the astroturfers at least for one thread.The board might not be lost yet.And if it is, at least it lifted my spirits one last time.
>>719534424Shari was hot in her prime.
>>719530478>>why does the UK think it has any jurisdiction in this matter?>because it does>4chan is "operating" in the uknot if they have no operations in the UKif they have no servers there and no offices there, then no, they aren't "operating" in the UK
>>719535068>Loved this as a kid>Get curious when she died, assuming it was in the 2010s maybe, she was likely in her 60s when I was watching>It was fucking 1998 while I was still watching the shows rerunsDamn, RIP
>>719503063it's just a shitpost filled with memes like "muh usa invented the internet" done just to show off to faggotsthis thread is being allowed up because the head donkey here wants you to see it
>>719510305gookmoot has no say in any of this lolit's one admin here that gets paid from ads and pass user revenue that does everything
>>719496228Not your personal army election tourist. Fuck off back to /pol/
>>719505969>refundsAustralian law did this, not Europe.
>>719536521the website "operates" in the ukfucking retardi dont mean they have like corporate offices or employees there.the traffic passes through uk serversthus is must adhere to uk law.
>>719539775Australians stay winn->looks at the social media ban(mass surveillance and information control) and collective shout being australianits fucking over...
>uk pretending they are relevantenjoy your police state cucked civilians , you still worship a monarchy lol go suck your queens feet faggot
my steam account is 20 years old. why would I need to verify my age?
>>719539990you would kneel at trumps feet if he became king of america.
>>719505054https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.mdthey even have the troon code of conduct lmao
>>719499341All other media had their Wild West days and then got tamed, what makes you think the Internet will be different?
Chuds told me that nothing will happen.Instead it keeps on getting worse, I've already signed the damn petition and complained to my MPAll this means is that I start pirating until vpns are banned.
>>719540148I've been hoping they make him God Emperor of Mankind.
>>719540168But I thought chuds did this
>>719539878No it doesn't. The website operates on a server located in the US. People from the UK can simply access this server which is then viewable on their computer.Essentially this is no different than someone from the UK travelling to America, making a print off of one of the pages, then bringing it back to the UK. The UK is trying to claim jurisdiction over the website because someone from the UK can go to America and get a print off of the website which they can then bring back to the UK.It is absurd.
>>719540220>These are the hypocrite cucks that pretend they're superior to you
>>719540016Weird to me why some sites don't use account age to determine age. When Newgrounds complied with the UK Online Safety Act, they made it so you're automatically assumed to be 18 if your account is 10 years old (and also if you ever bought premium with a credit card, which are 18+ in the UK).
>>719540258>It is absurd.And Ofcom will lose, this is already clearly established by Yahoo v LICRA in the US and Football Dataco v Sportradar in the EU/UK. A country cannot exert control over an internet service which has no legal, physical or corporate presence within that nation. Access via the internet is irrelevant to the matter. It's the countries job to police its subjects, not the service. The UKs only legally viable action here is to simply block 4chan on their end.Ofcom, as a legally distinct, non-government entity with no government funding loses its USC § 18 protections in the US that otherwise grant semi-diplomatic immunity to foreign state regulation entities being sued in US courts. They are fair game for this lawsuit.
>>719540437is talking to yourself fun
>>719540543Because it isn't about age, verification, or safety.
>>719527168Ofcom get their duties from Parliament.
>>719496228Not your personal army. Fuck off poltard
>>719540904They are legally, by UK law, recognized as independent and do not get money fromt he government, but instead funding by literally shaking down companies they sue. That's all that matters while filing this lawsuit in a US court
Do not delete /pol/, instead merge /b/ and /pol/
>>719541243No one's going to be changing 4chan at all to bend the knee the the most irrelevant first world country in existence. People take Belgium more seriously than that washed up inbred police state island
>>719541243Deleting /pol/ is the same as merging /b/ and /pol/. Politics discussions are ideal when they get derailed by porn spam and low effort spamming trolls.
>>719510305This is supposedly being done under JD Vance as the wedge to render the uk online safety act useless and prevent the uk from banning us websites.So essentially all the act will do is fine uk people trying to make online forums for their yoga club or whatever, they will still be forced to accept X, 4chan, kf, and very crucially any emergent ai/llm tech into their market.
is mass digital id coming? im not seeing any signs during my usage of the internet so far.
>>719497760>Should I expect more anti-anime and anti-loli shitposting?No, they the farms are infighting now, they are dying but they can help us win and then die from their own infighting.
>>719504026>cloudflarethey can't stop using murican technology
>>719541529two more weeks
>>719541529>is mass digital id coming?reminds me of a schizo theory>push ai development to the point they are indistinguishable to humans>make ai content and deepfake so real you can't tell the difference>to distinguish real humans, push ID verification everywherebut one of these days theya re gonna put a chip on us instead of ask for id
>>719496228>>719496613Seriously, what the fuck is happening to Bongs? They'll be a total police state in 10-15 years at this rate.
>>719521126As they should. Never use credit.
would our founding fathers have envisioned forst admendment to enable onlyfans?
>>719541813brother, they're so in love with totalitarian oppression they invented 1984they have always been living under the boot
>>719542724Not anymore, there are protests everywhere across the country right now. Labour is fucked.
>>719496228If your steam account isn't old enough to vote that's a you problem.
>>719542854Even if it is, it doesn't count >>719518341
>>719518341>please add a credit cardYou problem.
>>719542950Add a credit card faggot they can infer your age. How the fuck do you not have one added?Retard.
>>719542824Labour has done their best to just ignore the protests, anon. Unless your government is actually compelled to answer to its people you can protest day and night to no avail.
>>719542824Not because of that but due to the country getting flooded with mudslimes and nogs.
>>719543054>How the fuck do you not have one added?Because it's the UK and we don't use credit cards often over here, barely even 50% of the adult population have one.
>>719543149Debit cards work, too. Some kind of card. How do you buy shit online?
>>719543209>Debit cards work, too. Some kind of cardThey literally don't retard. They worked for 1 day.
>>719543149why are knives and melee weapons illegal in the uk? you would think having some sort of self defense weapon would be a right.
>>719543384they are not. you just can't buy knives in shops if underage. you can buy crossbows off amazon if you want self defense
>>719543209>Debit cardswhy the fuck even have credit cards? m-muh cashback and points game?
>>719543451what's the whole meme about knives being illegal in the uk about then? i dont mean kitchen knives i mean like combat knives like a kabar.
>>719543149What even is the use case for a credit card over a debit card
>>719543638Credit score for loans.
>>719543636some types are banned, mostly ones with serrated edges that make closing wounds difficult. "zombie knives" etc
>>719543638social credit cattle score
>>719543636>what's the whole meme about knives being illegal in the uk about then?Because there was a push to get people in London to hand in their knifes because of rampant knife crime. It got memed to hell and back.
>>719543629>>719543638easy way to increase credit score for americans. basically, credit cards are great if you use them as intended and pay off on time. problem is people don't and then fall into late payment fees, which is how credit card companies actually make money. turns out most people don't know how to use credit cards correctly.
>>719522234>conservativesit was bipartisan retard, both sides voted for it.
>>719526947These are the kinds of conservative people telling you what culture is acceptable in your western videogames.
>>719509573Because it's not about porn. It's about eliminating online anonymity. They don't want to respect privacy, they want your online identity tied to your real one in case they need to silence you for wrongthink
The resentment is already boiling over. Labour and the Home Office are frankly suicidal.
>>719498425I don't support the OSA but for the sake of argument... the (supposed) idea isn't to protect children from GTA sex scenes, but from outright porn. It makes sense that this check is only being applied to porn games.
>>719526991heh... :(
>>719500872Doesn't mean it can't/won't spill over to from the UK to the EU.Ensuring those get abolished in any first world country should be of everyone's interest.
>>719544986The list for the acfual OSA includes harmful stuff like bullying and suicide
>>719510051US GDP: $30 trillionChina GDP: $20 trillionWhat's the problem? A third of the population but GDP is 33% higher.
>>719545150It is in interests of everyone at the top to speedrun Russia and China internet policies, more so Russia even because the way UK doing is almost step by step reenactment of it.
>>719496429most bongs use debit cards, which don't work for verification because they can be issued at 16 (btw, age of consent is also 16 in the uk). naturally, they are pissed off.
>>719501576>KOSA came back from the dead this yearLike any horror movie monster, it has to be put down repeatedly before it dies for good.
>>719502310Adding things to budget bills that are unrelated to the budget really needs to be banned, but that's how politicians sneak in kickbacks to buddies and force unpopular policies like this one through.
>Account created 18 years ago doesn't count.>Debit cards don't count.>Can't link a google account.>Can't send in ID>Credit card is the only way to confirm ageMost adults aren't even eligible for a credit card and the rest don't want one. I still have access to all the games but I can't look at their store page.
>>719504000Digits confirm. How could we properly monitor you and protect you from wrongthink and inconvenient facts if you could remain anonymous?
>>719522130>Or how the federal reserve is a private business who's allowed to print moneyUsually governments don't appoint all the board members of a 'private' company.
>>719522607Epstein is the distraction you fool. Why do you think they suddenly began hyping up his files so long after everyone had forgotten about him? And then suddenly doing an aboutface and eating up media air insisting the files don't exist and aren't important? It's all meant to distract people from the censorship regime they're imposing.
>>719523929>Our "Right wing" party's last and current leader are brown, their previous leaders are all of Jewish heritage.Cameron, May, Boris, and Liz Trust are Jewish?I could swear Cameron descended from the bastard of an English king.
>>719530173So what are you gonna do when they hire the current world heavyweight champion or the top MMA?
>>719532030No and KF have actually removed the block now as well. There's no problem to solve anyway, Ofcom can levy as many fines as they want, they have no power to collect.
>>719546372I'd use my driving license if they'd let me.
I've decided now would probably be a prudent time to learn more about how the internet and similar IT stuff actually works on a fundamental level rather than just bits and pieces of understanding I picked up along the way. Are there any good resources that I should start with?
>>719497760We're all Anonymous, it's not like they can dox us.
>>719543638Spending money you doesn't haz.The real use is credit trapping 15 second african americans who think that some other african american will be paying the bill.
>>719521326>>719521632They're not supposed to take away the bread and the circus at the same time.
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>>719499341ugh i like this placeqrd on being sneaky?TOR? VPN? My dick? Just turning off your pc and reading?
>>719519865>Why can't americans sites just geoblock uk visitorsthe uk should block american sitesamerican sites have no duty to the uk and need not put in any effortuk doesnt wanna block as that would put them in the same boat as arab and chinese censor statesso uk is trying to trick foreign websites to do the blocking by gaslighting everyone that just cause they threathened to fine a foreign entity, that foreign entity is now doing business inside uk
>>719540178internet is backbone of world economyto keep it strong is to keep it with capability to be wild
>>719499341>sweet romantic LolitasI really hate to break it to youbut the mesugaki redditors are here to staythey have normie level presence now
>>719542824>Tories don't care about solving the country's problems because they want their mates to get rich instead>Labour doesn't care about solving the country's problems because they want their big donors to get rich instead>Reform probably doesn't care about solving the country's problems, they just want their mates to get rich as well and figured out a good way to win an election>Lib Dems are lol, lmao>Jezbollah might actually care about solving the country's problems but probably aren't competent enough to do it without breaking everything along the wayWe're actually fucked.
>>719547172>"We're all Anonymous, it's not like they can dox us."
>>719549572WTF how did you get my picture?!?
>>719549802you put it on the internettits pleaseplease dont leave i wanna see em
>>719524795But if having a credit card on file means I'm 18, then they shouldn't need to ask.
>>719509045The UK is American buttbuddy no. 1 and anything their govt is doing is at the direct behest of the Americans in the first place.
>>719549876Sorry I left them at home
>>719509045Ideally you just legally challenge it and obtain an injunction or exemption for the us.So the uk is bound by its own draconian anti speech laws wrt creating websites and will be eternally dependent on imported services from the us.
>>719500987this case seems to be about using software copyright fuckery to argue that adblockers are violating copyright and that the dismissal was probably invalid because it rejected the validity of the copyright claim and the copyright claim has technical grounds as an argumentbut eu precedent regarding software modification means it'll get rejudicated as being legal modification since in the eu software delivered to the end user is free for the end user to modify>>719531828only recent thing I know of is announcing being against the latest iteration of chat control since it violates finnish constitutional rightsthey're going the belgium route of implying they are not complying even if it passes
>>719545780>can vote, drink and drive at age 16>can't look up pixel tits until 18
>>719551806>Lower the voting age to 16>Do everything in your power to piss off 16 year olds.Sasuga Starmer-sama
>>719552209Pissed off native 16 year olds will bitch online but won't vote, imported 16 year olds will though.
