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>boring plot that doesn't really make sense
>characters are all stock military tropes
>no sense of wonder or discovery like other halo games
>none of the levels were memorable, no biome changes or sense of discovery
>play as a donut steel OC non character
>introduced sprint into the series
>half the multiplayer maps are just forge world builds instead of unique, custom designed maps with unique art assets like 1-3

Most overrated game in the series
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>>719496971
b-but it's made by muh bungie it has to be good only 343 can make shit halo games...
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>>719497064
That's actually true
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>>719496971
Reach was the TFA of Halo in that it set the franchise up to be brutally raped to death right after
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>>719496971
yeah but 7ft spartan mommy
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>>719497553
>see this big battle?
>yeah well its not your business
>you'll be fighting all the way over here instead, sorry
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>>719496971
It literally started the CoDification of Halo, only nostalgiafags deny this
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>>719496971
overrated garbage
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>>719496971
Yep. if they had just adapted fall of reach, it would have been cool as shit. early levels playing as kid john, getting mjolnir, losing sam, then the back half with getting cortana and defending reach. could have been awesome. ready made for dlc too. covert assassination missions as rookie spartans, missions on various planets that are eventually lost to the covenant. that same framing would work for the multiplayer too
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>>719496971
Yes but the skyboxes are superb.
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>>719496971
>>none of the levels were memorable
Winter con had moa, sword base had tanks and the target locator, tip of the spire for the falcon and spire sections, new alexandria had tons of fun easter eggs, long night of solace had space dogfights and "tell em to make it count", and exodus was unadulterated kino from start to end. Lone wolf was iconic. The package was fine, the "memorable moments" were all sort of forced, though. Only nightfall and the one where you return to sword base were whatever
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>>719496971
plot was weak/okay
military tropes are fun desu
no sense of wonder, yeah i dont think they were going for that at all with this one. you're fighting on home turf and getting your ass kicked.
i thought the levels were fine, but yeah no sense of discovery. it was more like, oh so this is what humans see most of the time
it's fine being an OC non character.
sprint was gay, yeah
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>>719496971
And it still is the only playable game in the series, rest are even worse.
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People who seethe about Reach are latecomers that started with Halo 3. The entire rest of the community wanted something new.

We had 3 straight games of Halo that were, at their core, the exact same games with minor improvements and different campaigns. 3s multiplayer was so fucking deep that tons of people including myself kept playing for two years after the fact.
Wars wasn't nearly as popular because nobody gave a fuck about strategy games, and ODST was cool but clearly a one and done spin off type of game.
So when Reach came out, everyone who had been with the franchise since CE was excited because of all the new shit that came with it. It was the highest selling Halo game at that point.

So be a contrarian nu-/v/igger all you want but Reach, like pretty much everything else old Bungie did, was great.
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>>719501225
Halo 2 had more gameplay additions than Reach.
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>>719496971
>tfw never played Reach
Halo ended after the Trilogy
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>>719501225
>The entire rest of the community wanted something new.
They wanted Call of Duty
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>>719501225
You're in your 20s.
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>>719497556
2 of them even since they fully voiced Female 6.
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>>719499118
Fall of Reach / First Strike are written so well already to have been adapted for a video game, that zero G assault on the station with John and Kelly, or the entire planet-side defense with Fred would've all made awesome levels
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>>719496971
It's the best Halo game because the Flood isn't in it.
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>>719505506
Y'know, I do like the two games that focus on fighting covenant, but the flood are better enemies than 343's forerunner units.
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>>719496971
It wss pretty soulless except for the survive ending
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>>719504960
>no 7ft tall spartan Israeli gf to get crushed and towered from
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>>719504858
And you're a zoomer.
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>>719501225
you've triggered the H4babs
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>>719496971
Cool ending battle though.
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>>719501225
Sprint+armor abilities fucked up MP depth and map design.

Reach Firefight was worse than ODSTs, or at least became more of a silly sandbox game rather than a endurance challenge worthy of a VIDMASTER achievement.

Theater mode was a very slight downgrade from H3, I think it was party viewing limitations?

All in all forge and armor customization were the only big improvements, though it needed more achievement based unlocks.
>>719507156
how 4 literally repeated the same mistakes but even worse and also had a worse forge than 3 let alone reach.
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>>719507360
The armor customization was a downgrade because it all became a one-way COD grind instead of a display of your achievements.
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>>719501225
Slight trvth nvke.
God I miss Halo 1 and 2 over early xbox live. 2 was the greatest game in the series.
Campaign, enemies, level design, dual-wielding, legendary difficulty, model detail, and multiplayer. All superior to 3.
3 had fun maps in multi but it couldn't beat 2 for me.
>>719506674
She's persian.
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>>719501225
Good bait. I started with CE back when it released and Reach was hot garbage.
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>>719496971
>half the multiplayer maps are just forge world builds instead of unique, custom designed maps with unique art assets like 1-3
and the other half was shit they copy pasted from campaign
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>>719496971
This OP is terrible and written by someone who wasn't web-literate during all of the ODST wank during and after launch, and which persists to this day.
If OP was around during launch, then all the more terrible that he has such shit observation and reflection.
ODST was not just the most overrated Bungie-era Halo - it is one of the most overrated 360 titles of all time.
By comparison, Reach is regularly shat on even more than 2.

The above is not a statement of quality regarding Reach, ODST, or 2,
but this is: I personally think they're all good to great games.
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>>719496971
but enough about Halo Infinite
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Bungie intentionally made Reach shit in order to sabotage Halo on their way out the door.
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>>719508762
Reach was a culmination of ideas Bungie wanted to implement since day 1.
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>>719501225
People did want something new, but what Reach gave us was a bunch of horseshit no one wanted.
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>>719507823
>She's persian.
>voiced by a jew
i no longer want 7ft tall spartan mommy
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based. reach haters are always based to me
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>>719496971
That's a weird way to write that Reach is the greatest Halo game ever made for its campaign. Shame about the multiplayer though, although swat was great.
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>>719501225
>it was different so its good
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3 > Reach > 2 > ODST > 1
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1 > 3 > 2 >>> Reach = ODST



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