>it's outYeah I'm thinking kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7WkDfSeBBc
>>719497349I will probably pirate it but now that I've started playing hoshigami I've remembered how much I dislike level scaling
>>719497349>>719497349Agrias, my wife...
>>719497349so in 99 they could do 3d kino and in 2025 we get derivate anime slop?
>A remake ever being kinoNo
i mean why would anyone need fft remake it is stil playable, just rerelease psp/phone versionif it needs remake, then we need full one, with more text, more characters, more stories, backstories. not just people saying one-liners
ffta is the better game
wow they managed to make it look worse than the original lol might as well be a Berserk episode! CLANG!!
>another satanic anticatholic gook game where you kill a Christ figurepass, ffta is still better with actual Christian messaging
>>719500505who gives a shit about religion lmao it's current year
I should really play FFT.I have it on my chinkheld might as well blast through it.
>>719500629secularists are in the global minority you absolute toilet handle plus you cant prove there is no God so shut the fuck up forever
>>719501749Yeah I can't prove he's not real but I can simply choose to not care just like most of society lmao.
>>719502035>>719502035Most of society is religious. 99 percent of all people who ever lived were religious.
>>719502436Because 99% of humanity lived in times where there was nothing else to do but pray. That's not an argument.Checking the "catholic" box in a census doesn't make anybody religious.
Unless they fix the ending, Im not playing this incest fantasy slop again
>>719502436are you really religious if you don't abide by any of its tenets? You can barely get the average "Christian" to attend service on Easter these days
>>719504581What's wrong? Ramza won.
>>719498449Nier's remake was certified kino.
>>719497349Nice intro I guessAnything new added or fixed?
>>719506029yeah but it's full price which feels bad manI just can't cope
>>719504806"Won" by sacrificing all of his allies in the last fight and fucking Olan in the ass by letting them kill him
>>719497349Really? My preorder hasn't updated yet.
>>719501682Play the WotL version. It sucked on release because the PSP literally couldn't keep up with the processing and so it would slow to a chug on each turn, but emulated on modern hardware it is snappy and by far the superior way to play.t. Guy that bought the OG on PS, WotL on PSP, and preordered the demake for PS5
I actually started a playthough of the og recently.Kind of fucked up after a while, wanted to fuck around for a little bit with end game items so I used an every item code after saving.It didn't work at first and like an idiot I decided to not to reset and turn off the code, no I played a few battles and saved. Then I changed jobs and suddenly had shit I'd never got appeared.Could be worst I guess, just can't use auto equip.
>>719501682>>719507460This is what you play. The only downside is no widescreen but only the new version has good widescreen.https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=78.0
>>719497349So does this have the shakespearian dialogue or the realistic politics ESL dialogue?
>>719509130the former with edits
>>719497349
>>719507623He didn't say this
kek they are actually trying to sell it for $50. are they high?
>>719497349You guys already tricked me into getting tactics ogre and that was shit.
>>719497349Why aren't games looking like that? Don't say it's impossible, it isn't, is it?>kinoIt ain't, shit version, I'm afraid.
>>719510790Why, my favourite game, despite all the jank and the ridiculous bugs.>>719497416>hoshigamiCurious, never saw that. Looks similiar enough. To toR. Tried gungnir or
>>719510934>Don't say it's impossible, it isn't, is it?because retards like you are taking over the planet
>>719497349I'll pirate it after the autists over in ffhacktics make a Lion War for it.Same as for War of the Lions.
I was thinking about replaying Tactics Ogre : Reborn but I might pick this up.. hmm..
She's reaching for a gun
>>719511137>because retards like you are taking over the planetAnd that's why we can't have this kind of vidya. Must be funny being mentally ill like you. Is everything seemingly random for you? Curious specimen.
>>719511201That will take like 10 years
>>719507102Its left ambiguous whether his allies lived or died. They very well could have survived like he did but all recruitable characters must disappear from story cutscenes in classic Matsuno fashion.
>>719497349Isn't that worse than the WOTL intro?
>>719511130it's fun but really rough. I heard the re-release on ds was made easier
>>719511538>>719497349https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4LVwwfgvMdidn't they cut the FMVs from the new version? I think I read that
>>719506442Nigger just emulate the switch version
>>719511664There will be no wotl content in this new release because they're buttmad
>>719511798I might if it works but I also like modding. I just wish it were cheaper, I actually would have bought it.>>719511823That's so gay.
>>719511664They remade the game from scratch because lolnosourcecode. The entire guff about wotl has just been that they wanted to specifically remake the original game so they didn't include the newer jobs from that version or balthier/pizza kid from ffta2
don't care not buying demakes
>>719497349I like the old one better
>>719511992It's not like they couldn't use the FMVs though they were nice.
>>719510779Yeh they have fuck all coming out until late 2026, have to pull money from somewhere
>>719510779hehe...
>>719512095I do not think they would've gotten away with upscaling them from psp resolution
I really don't understand why they didn't just do Vagrant Story first, you could easily sell that game to zoomers if you rounded off the edges. I love SRPGs but nobody plays them anymore, I'd be shocked if TO:R pushed even 500k worldwide.
>>719512187It looks like they just slapped a smoothening filter over the og
>>719511465No
>>719512124They would make more money with a better price point
>>719512187The iOS port already had them at a higher res than on psp and I know from experience that upscaling that style isn't difficult(I upscaled frames to make a lora). And it would be better than nothing either way, they're comfy even on psp.
>>719512227Didn’t sell back then, probably considered higher risk
>>719511465>elf earsI hate AI sloppa so fucking muchWhat you fap to on your own time is on you, but don't waste my bandwidth on that garbage
>>719512469t. dwarf
>>719512451I mean it wasn't like the game was bad and a flop, you could easily market it nowadays as one of Famitsu's first 40/40s or some shit. Yeah it had poor release timing, but if you slapped a UE5 filter on it and some voice acting in you'd basically have a modern game.
>>719512227Literally no one cares about Vagrant Story though. That's a terrible idea.
>>719500505It's Lucifer who disguised herself as Christ a thousand years beforehand, retard.
>>719512867I care about Vagrant Story :(
>>719511335Well, if I'm still alive then, I'll be set.
>>719512682I didn’t say it was bad, but it didn’t sell that hot, same with Xenogears. I like these games a lot but they have more of a cult following and will require someone within the business willing to take a risk on it. The only somewhat recent example of that happening was Saito taking a chance on Nier and deciding to greenlight Automata. Not sure it’s that common, especially now they want to cut down on AA projects.
>>719497349I hope this does well enough, because they already did all the work via this game rebuilding everything from scratch, so they already have everything together if they wanted to shfit into a sequel. Matsuno expressed interest before.But I already know that only Fire Emblem does well as a tactical/strategy rpg, and it's a niche genre. So it's just wishful thinking. But I can daydream.
>>719513373in this climate their expectations are probably beyond realistic
>>719513442I dunno about expectations, but I just don't think the demand is realistically there. The genre is too niche, unless it's FE.
>>719513373>Matsuno expressed interest before.The last thing he said about an SRPG was that he wanted to finish out Ogre Battle before he died. Sakaguchi said he was working on something around the same time, but we've heard nothing for years. At this point it could be just about anything, or it could've been killed by FFXVI's lukewarm reception. Supposedly Taro has been working on something this entire time too. Company is in shambles, I wouldn't expect anything soon, or even at all.
>>719497349>literally built for cuddling and plappingNo, she's built for the last three letters of the link you posted.
>>719513589FE only works because it pivoted to coomers yeah yeah i get it always had cute designs but the addition of "my unit" changed the perception and the character design has gone down the fucking toiletAssuming they have any integrity, it won't have a market
>>719513801>Banking on the Gay of Thrones audience after the show runners butchered itI can't beleive they were proud of it too
>>719513373>I hope this does well enoughIt won't. A full priced PS1 game is ridiculous.>because they already did all the work via this game rebuilding everything from scratchThey barely rebuilt anything, it's a reskin more than anything. Even the backdrops and sprites are worse than the WOTL versions.I pray for sequels but let's be real here. SE is dead.
>>719513910The British WILL NEVER HAVE HER
>>719513801Yeah whole company’s basically in the biggest shakeup since the Enix merge. They ditched a lot of stuff last year. Going to be a little while before there’s a clearer picture of how they aim for their new output to look like.
>>719514023>Going to be a little while before there’s a clearer picture of how they aim for their new output to look like.Woke AI generated live service NFT games.
>>719513935As bad as the writing and gameplay were Three Houses took itself seriously and was the best selling FE. Engay's sales were good coming off of 3HRT, but they dropped off a cliff after people actually played it
>>719514023>>719514078Mobilenis is dead in japan because devs are appsrently afraid of being sued for adopting qol features like batch leveling lmao.
>A few years after the ending of Final Fantasy Tactics, Ramza is still with his comrades, and in fact the group has grown even larger. The group is in Ordallia and helping out a resistance movement that opposes the country's oppressive regime. In this setting, there are rumors that as king of Ivalice, Delita is considering sending troops to Ordallia to help quash this resistance, and Ramza is prepared to oppose Delita once again in order to protect his friends, both new and old. While it is doubtful that the king himself would come to Ordallia, this nevertheless would put the two former friends on opposite sides once again.Considering that the ending of Ivalice Chronicles (Enhanced version) is clarified a bit to make things a bit more clear, there are rumors that it's trying to ease a setup for a sequel
>>719510790There is no cure for shit taste
> remake game> oh we're remaking the original release so no extras > but we're using the other version scriptWhy can't these companies stop fucking up easy money? They did the same with Persona, its not that fucking difficult to make a damn near 30 year old game and add all the extras that were cut or added in various rereleases
>>719514223Eh. They should leave Ramza out of the sequel. Matsuno was barely able to give him any character development after chapter 2 other than being good guy hero. His storu is done and over with.
>>719514307They're not using the other version's script.They're using the other version's TRANSLATION.The japanese version is using the original script, and not the WotL version.
>>719514223>and Ramza is prepared to oppose Delita once again in order to protect his friendsIsn't Delita dead?
>>719514336I'd be fine with Ramza being in the sequel, but I'd like it better if he was around more as an NPC (maybe you're part of his group, leading your own units). He can join back in late (like Orlandu in original) or something.
>>719497349>No War of The LionsI get it. They wanted the OG stuff.Thing is War of The Lions adds in a lot of new stuff people liked.If they wanted a real remake, then they could've included War of The Lions and the option to either play the OG Ivalice Chronicles without WoTL content, or with it.Simple thing to do, but they fucked it up. Typical Squeenix not using their brains.
>>719514496>Isn't Delita dead?No. He's been saying in interviews this was the case for years.Ivalice Chronicles ending is supposed to clarify that aspect better. People are stabbed but not killed.
>>719514307Remakes are a struggle for them, not sure why
>>719514661they don't give a fuck
>>719514589No so much a Square Enix issue in this specific aspect,but the original creators. War of the Lions was made with zero input from there in a time when Square was doing a lot of revisions of older games for their portables outside of the original creators' visions.Now as a consumer, almost none of us are gonig to give a shit about that. But the people who created this stuff would care.And while I liked Balthier (as a unit) and Dark Knight was neat, I didn't particular like some of their story alterations in some of the new cutscenes. Felt out-of-place and weird, like Delita popping in out of nowhere randomly everywhere.I'm sure the OG creators didn't care for the story changes.
>>719514336>>719514223The only way Ramza should be in it is for clarification that he's plapping Alma daily
>>719513939It's just a symptom of people picking up the reigns that have no business doing so. It's been happening over and over since Sakaguchi's departure.
>>719514661>nostalgiafags will buy it regardless, why even try?
>>719514753I mean they obviously give a bit of a fuck. This was a full recreation from ground up since they didn't have the source code.Disagree with decisions, yeah. But it's kinda false to claim not giving a fuck.
>>719514764Ok, but if they just stop being autistsic for 5 minutes, they'll realise a lot of people liked the changes, or that for a lot of them might even have been their first exposure to FFT so WotL IS FFT to them.Just make a toggle when you start the game for the original experience or the WotL one and you'd make nearly everyone happy.
>>719514829>I mean they obviously give a bit of a fuck.They don't give a single fuck and FF8's remaster is objective proof of that. They are fucking liars and don't give a shit about quality or their fans. FFX was another absolute stain on the series.>This was a full recreation from ground up since they didn't have the source code.It's a simple as fuck PS1 SRPG, this isn't some insane task.
Draw your wallet, /v/amza.
>>719515193>They don't give a single fuck and FF8's remaster is objective proof of that.But they gave a fuck for Tactics, as it's a full rebuild from scratch.Y'know. The subject of this thread.
>>719515389>as it's a full rebuild from scratch.Out of necessity. With worse sprites, worse backgrounds, worse sound effects, and with missing content...
>>719515193>recreating a game from scratch is super easy, when you have to figure out how things are supposed to work under the hood rather than just doing whatever you want for a full gameI know /v/ doesn't know shit, but sometimes you guys say the most retarded things
>>719515193Well you are right in that they don’t care about ff8 internally at square lol. That remaster was outsourced.
>>719515456Subjective.Subjective.No missing content. It's based on the original.You're just full of acting like your opinion and incorrect info is pure fact.
I think it's time they ride the franchise racing boom and release a new chocobo racing game
>>719515469>when you have to figure out how things are supposed to work under the hoodIt's a srpg and you can easily see that from the original... modders figured this out.>>719515470And they lied like maniac about it too.
>>719515612>It's a srpg and you can easily see that from the original...are you a fucking retard? No shit it's an SRPG. The mechanics.
>>719515349NEIN
>>719513373how many times are we gonna fall for the "if it does well they'll do a sequel" bullshit. if it does well they'll probably fire the crew.
>>719515612I dont' think you need to be a modder to notice the genre.They were talking about how things are coded to perform in certain ways. Get something off, and the game will play differently than you remember.
>>719515686the sad part is that the devs never say this, it's just speculative fanboy nonsense
>>719515774To be fair, Matsuno DID say that if IC sold 2 million copies, he'd feel confident pitching it to Square (since he's not employed there anymore, but is third party).But it was said in a more "playing around with the crowd/interviewers" kind of way
>>719515857you mean the guy behind the Unsung Story? heh
>>719516038he wasn't behind unsung story. he was brought in as a consultant (likely moreso to tie his name to it)that was someone else's project
>>719515349>Throws wallet into face for massive damage
>>719497349The remake is supposed to have full voice acting, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOoKHp5wkssFor some reason this is the #1 scene I'm curious to see how they handle
>>719516038Matsuno was behind Ogre Battle, Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, and (with a lot of executive overhead meddling) FF12.He was not behind Unsung Story. They just talked to him a few times to get his name noticed since he's a big name in the genre, and people who don't know better will think "this is Matsuno's game".
>>719516286>For some reason this is the #1 scene I'm curious to see how they handleFor me is this scene, my favorite scene in the entire gameThe commander Delita just revealing his entire plan AND even plans on killing the high priest because hes no one's dog, so fucking ruthless, it hurts to see him change so much and become what he ought to destroyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nk4ukO-u1o
matsuno slop
>>719516286The EN dub makes me cringe, I wish they used old talent instead of the new western shitters.
>>719516557I actually like what I've heard of the new talent, but they got JP voices available as well at least if it rubs people the wrong way.
>Surrender or die in obscurity!This line will not exist in this version, as it uses the WotL translation for Classic.That makes me sad. Let the jacked up original translation live to compare to the new version
>>719497349I'm sure it's the pax video sound but the music sounds horrible
>>719515774>the sad part is that the devs never say thisCapcom has said it before, they're the shitheads that put this whole idea in people's heads in the first place. And yet they only ever delivered on it once.
>>719517898what games did they say it for?
>>719517804it sounds like a phone recording of a TV, the game won't sound like this
>>719518019They confirmed that part of the reason MM11 exists is because the Legacy Collection sold well. Yet the X Collections and Battle Network Collections also sold well, hell I think BN sold the best out of all of them, yet there's zero signs for those series getting a new entry.
>>719518139>yet there's zero signs for those series getting a new entryBecause the guy who was championing the Mega Man games at Capcom (I forgot his name... NOT the guy who left longer ago who did Mightly No 9) left Capcom, so there's nobody using those numbers and pushign for a new Mega Man.
Why I think there's a better chance of a FFT sequel happening is that Yoshi-P (even if you hate him) is well-liked by the upper people at Square Enix, and he's always been a huge Matsuno fan. So if there's a case of this doing well enough, he'd be the guy who'd be championing for a new one with Matsuno.But realisitically, this is a Tactics game. It's delusional to pretend it will do well enough to justify a sequel. This one will do "well enough" largely for nostalgia.
>>719497349Overpriced for what it is. I'll pirate it once modding develops a bit to iron things out.
>>719512001I'm still wondering if it's worth a yarrI think TOR was, the QoL shit was nice at the cost of the ugliest fucking upscale i've seen in a while (RF4 "HD" is close)
>>719518770It never looked that ugly to me (not saying people were wrong, it just didn't feel bad to me personally).Tactics Ogre Reborn was really great (for me), which is why I'm more willing to try this one (if it feels off in under 2 hours, I'll just refund it)
>>719505647Wrong. No papa, worse music
>>719518770looks fine to me, though I add some stuff with reshade to make it more pixely
>>719519126Nope I'm right. Papa is cringe and the music was improved(mostly). But the other stuff they added made it was higher on the kinoscale than the original.
>>719519126Papa was part of a censored version of Nier.The brother re-release for the West is not censored.
The main thing I'm still iffy about is showing their mouths move on the portraits when talking. I think I preferred like in Tactics Ogre Reborn where it's just the still portrait.But we'll see how it feels during game
>>719520256I hate it too I hope mods can fix it.
Kiniche is a MASSIVE faggot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o24xRpt4TQk
>>719498449Play better remakes.
>>719512227>why didn't they pick a game that literally no one bought or played that barely resembles anything modern gamers actually care about instead of the most well known non-mainline FF gameAnon you should apply to be an exec at SE, they deeply honor that level of retardation so you will probably go places
Unless there are good worthy gameplay improvements I can't see buying this over just replaying WOTL
>>719520516Why is SE always talking about how they don't have the source code for old games? It just makes you think that they're fucking retards.
>>719520947>WOTLYou mean the worst version?
>>719520256Makes them look like puppets. There's a lot to be said about the value of abstraction and letting the brain fill in details appropriately.
>>719520947Known gameplay improvements seem to be 99% UI related so far. Even the random encounters could be modded to not be random for years. I never considered FFT a weak game in the UI department so I'm hoping they did something more interesting if they want to charge that much money for what seems to be a nice port.
>>719497416>HoshigamiHoly fuck anon. I've been looking for an unknown srpg PSX game for 20 odd years and I think thats it
>>719516667>I actually like what I've heard of the new talent
>>719521523I'll do you one better: Goujin Senki.
Yaay, oni-chan, peace peace.
>>719521667Thank you. I'm an wage slave now but hopefully soon I will have time for vidya again
>>719521076Anon we KNOW they are fucking retards. They have been retards for over 24 years
>>719520516What the fuck are they thinking
>Didn't bother including war of the lions contentwhat's the point?
>>719521076Konami too. Also Sega who lost the one for The House of the Dead.The japs have no respect for their legacy.
>>719521076This is why video game developers should make their games open-source.
Yeah, I'm thinking this is a shill thread
>>719522532anon Saber has a BWC already...
>>719522424>taking away all the focus from the bossterrible
>>719522483Thankfully the FFT community is autistic as fuck and will probably come to the rescue and mod it in within a year.
>>719511226dropped FFXIV when they gave us faggot ass sage over chemist>They added it to Occult Crescent as some faggy phantom job Fuck you Yoshit, I hope you get hyper AIDs being repeatedly fucked by a NigerianJeet rape coalition you fucking gook
>>719522579I rather play the PS1 mod The Lion War Remixed.It has the psp content except its pretentious script and cinematicsm
>>719500505>The entire game is about how the religion was built wearing the skin of heroes and angels with the wearers being demons and beings that wish to challenge and kill the gods
>>719522424I'm unironically not buying it after seeing this.
>>719522483They recognize that it sucks.
>>719522901you can switch back to the classic style anytime in a menu.
>>719511491iirc there was a game that states that Ramza and his group all survived and moved to the country next to Ivalice to help the rebels there with their political trouble.
>>719522935More like they know it's popular and people will shell out extra $$$ for DLC.
Will thr Lucavi speak like tryhard thesbians? If not then this version will easily surpass the WotL one
>>719522993nta but they won't do shit
>>719500505>game I played as a kid: good and christian>game that I have not played: satanic and badYou forgot your pepe
>>719522941no you can't, they're two different games
>>719523094In the announcement trailer they revealed that you can toggle the new UI and visual changes in the menu.
>>719523039"Ayo Ramza you a bitch ass nigga now hand over the Gyatted up princess so me and the boys can take turns fr fr on god. [Phonk/slowed INTENSIFIES]"
>>719522993>Balthier.>Anyone but Fran's fat ass be popular.
>>719523129you misread
>>719500505Catholics are the most fragile religioncucks in the world.
>>719522993You retards said the same shit about the Pixel Remasters. You were wrong then and are wrong now.
>>719523140I would unironically prefer this over the WotL dialogue. It's intentionally and not accidentally comedic
>>719517704ShameRamza doesn't get m any good lines
>>719518770While not perfect, the more I go and replay other SPRGs, the more I realize that Tactics Ogre is the GOAT despite the glaring flaws. It's a genre woefully underbaked.
>>719517704This is what I hate most about these remakes. They should also have the original game with them that's untouched. Especially if they want to charge 50-70$
Can't people just mod the wotl jobs into the game now that it's on PC?
>>719524757probably yeahproblem is that nobody will buy it
>>719525169No one is skipping this because it excludes some shitty Jobs/characters.
>>719525382they're skipping it because of the price and demake attributes
>>719518770nah they removed dodge chance and hit%. I dunno how people even use ninjas in that demake
>>71952363120 years later I still wonder.... what did he mean by this?
>>719521076>>719522307I knew /v/ was fucking all young and shit zoomers at this point, but holy shitCompanies didn't keep source code past when they were needed in the 90's, unless a random dev decided to store it themselves personally. Storage space was an actually concern then (not like now where 150 gb games are the norm and nobody gives a shit)Capcom had to rebuild the original 3 Devil May Cry games for their collection since they had no source code. It was outsourced to a western group, and they used rentals from Blockbuster as reference to rebuild all 3 games.It's also why Icewind Dale II does not have an enhanced edition. Absolutely nobody they can find has the source code at all for that anymore, while all the prior Infinity Engine games had random devs who happened to have it on them (wasn't saved by any actual companies). IWD2 would have to be completely rebuilt, but there is not expected to be a big enough audience to justify that effort (unlike older games like these)
>>719527205>Capcom had to rebuild the original 3 Devil May Cry games for their collection since they had no source code.That's bullshit, or at least partially. We know this isn't completely true because we got a Devil May Cry 2 source code leak.
>>719527205Stupid companies didn't do that. Smart companies did. Letting everyone know you were stupid whenever you can is a dumb move.>Storage space was an actually concern thenAnd you should really stop acting intelligent, you're a fucking idiot.
>>719527205Never forget that one retarded Redditor who had the Starcraft source code
>>719527272Look it up. That's how they rebuilt it It's very well possible that someone else had access to the source code, but Capcom themselves did not.>>719527287You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about, but keep talking out your ass.
>>719527379>saving one CD is too expensive guys
>>719527287How old are you? You sound like you got all your info from /v/ or something stupid like that.
>>719527379>That's how they rebuilt it It's very well possible that someone else had access to the source code, but Capcom themselves did not.>On November 1, 2020, Capcom was targeted in a ransomware attack by the hacker group Ragnar Locker. This resulted in the theft and release of personal information, as well as development assets (including source code, in many cases) for several Capcom projects - Devil May Cry 2 being one of them. Present in the leak is full source code and various other development assets for the game in all languages (including the elusive Chinese version.)
>>719527429AnonThink real hard about this. CDs take up physical space. These companies made a lot of games, and departments come and go.Think. I know you can do this.
>>719527503>CDs take up physical space.my god
>>719527502Anon, when do you think the Devil May Cry games were rebuilt?Do you think now that storage is really easy, and they paid for someone to rebuild the games for them, do you think they'd throw away that rebuilt source code?Or did you trick yourself to think that a 2020 leak was the original source code for 90's/early 2000's?
A lot of developers made back ups of their games, probably out of love to their work or because they saw profitability in keeping that material. Nintendo, Al Lowe, William Salvador/Rebecca Ann Heineman, John Calhoun, John Romero, Dave Ashley, Digital Eclipse, BioWare employees, Kevin Edwards, Climax Studios, Electronic Arts, David S. Maynard, Chris Shrigley, Williams Electronics/Bally Midway Games, Ed Fries, Telltale Games, Microsoft, and even Tose Software preserved a lot of material.>don't know if I ever told you, but the Tose pres told me they have all of the source code for every game they've donehttps://x.com/frankcifaldi/status/851263162670133248
>>719527612And they weren't often maintained by the companies themselves, but individuals.
>>719527594The source code leaks has abandoned ideas that could only come from the original development.Why would they create any of this for a straight port?https://tcrf.net/Development:Devil_May_Cry_2/Script_Document
>>719527612>There were some exceptions to the ruleYes?Is /v/ doubling down on retardation here?
>>719527712So what you're saying is that Capcom lied about the source code being gone?Why? And why would they pay someone to rebuild them if they had the original?
No really what's the reason why WOTL stuff isn't in? It's not like there was a lot of additions.
>>719527790Because it was made in spite of the original creators, and different people made story changes than the original.Whether that's a good reason or not, depends on who you are, but that is the reason. The original creators are involved in this remake.
>>719527612It is inarguably fucking retarded to not preserve source code. Only a minority of companies deleted it.
>>719527205I just cant imagine a notepad saved zip file being too large for a cd.
>>719527782>So what you're saying is that Capcom lied about the source code being gone?I want:1. The source of your quote.2. An explanation of why would Capcom create a script for the game with unimplemented ideas for a game that was a simple port of the retail games.We also had source code for The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, a game that was never ported nor remade to newer systems, so it would've been absurd to just recreate it for no reason.https://tcrf.net/Development:The_Misadventures_of_Tron_Bonne
>>719527858Im surprised lazy programmers didnt keep it to copy and paste.
>>719527861How old are you anon? Were you alive in the 90's out of curiosity? Because this really shouldn't be a difficult concept for you if you were, you would remember.
>>719527790Maybe they just want the game to fail, a lot of the changes make me think that.
>>719497349I can't waitI never got far in the game so this version is the perfect time to finally play it
>you don't get it, I'm old>that's why I must defend japanese idiocy
Here's some source code that it's known to be preserved, but has not been publicly released for one reason or another:NFL Blitz (1997), 720° (1986), APB (1987), Championship Sprint (Super Sprint II) (1986), Vindicators (1988), Rampage (1986), S.T.U.N. Runner (1989): Owned by Mike Mika.[1][2][4][5]Aliens Versus Predator: Gold Edition (2000): Owned by Rebecca Ann Heineman, developer of the Mac port.[3]San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing (1997): Owned by M. Mika; Nintendo 64 and arcade.[4]Doom for Atari Jaguar (1994): Owned by R. A. Heineman, partially released.[6]Ms. Pac-Man for Sega Genesis (1991), Hard Drivin' for Sega Mega Drive (1990), Battlehawks 1942 (1988): Owned by M. Mika.[7][9]Killing Time (1995): Owned by R. A. Heineman.[8]Magic Johnson's Fast Break (1988), Silver Surfer (1990), Wolverine (1991): Owned by Kevin Edwards.[10][11] No plans for a public release.[12]Heroes of Might and Magic III: Complete (2000): Owned by John Keoni Morris,[13] sent to Ubisoft.[14]Pole Position for ZX Spectrum (1984): Owned by Graeme Devine.[15][1] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/1154438658503536640[2] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/1154450061826248704[3] https://x.com/burgerbecky/status/1426243074032873473[4] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/1444835416306171915[5] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/1445426867654172676[6] https://x.com/burgerbecky/status/1436865954475134984[7] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/1273644318570369024[8] https://x.com/burgerbecky/status/1434294117815705605[9] https://x.com/MikeJMika/status/750552204034138112[10] https://x.com/KevEdwardsRetro/status/1266512220336394244[11] https://x.com/KevEdwardsRetro/status/1264951862404567043[12] https://x.com/KevEdwardsRetro/status/1265013248828551168[13] https://x.com/DiskBlitz/status/920801845349466113[14] https://x.com/DiskBlitz/status/920803185828159490[15] https://x.com/zaphodgjd/status/1425578432352583685
>>7195279371. I'll be able to look into this in a few hours when I have more spare time2. That's for you to explain, since you're the one saying this despite source code being lost and rebuilt
>>719527945I was born in the 70's. Im talking about a zipped notepad file of the actual written code. If the game could fit on a disc the .txt definitely could.
>>719528035That happened in the West too, anon. Black Isle games. They had to reach out to old devs to get source code.That wasn't a "Japanese" thing.
>I changed the modification date of the remake files so they match the development window of the original game because... because it was fun, I guess, okkkkk???
>>719528167>.txt fileSo not a particularly intelligent person born in the 70's is what your'e sayingOr a liarOne or the other
This is why nobody listens to gamers when they have ideas on how to fix anything. "Just do X"
>>719528143>despite source code being lost and rebuiltThe modification dates, and the fact we have source code for a game that was never ported, remastered or remade tells me it's bullshit. It was a leak that happened because Capcom got hit with ransomware. It was taken from their servers.
>>719528381nta but DMC2 was definitely ported and rereleased in a collectionor are you speaking of a different game?
>>719519126nigger they added cut content and the music is better all around. I like Papa Nier as much as you do but we have to admit he's censorship slop.
>>719528247Notepad existed back than, my miserable genetic deadend fellow oldfag. Being a dick online wont make up for women being repulsed by you.
>>719510476Algus thought it. It was subtext when he said, "Oh, come on. Animals are animals. I'll prove it to you!"
>>719528504>or are you speaking of a different game?The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, which I've already mentioned before.Besides, the DMC2 source code leaks have proper modification dates from 2002.>>719528207Why would they have that date if they were made for a re-release published 10 years later?
>>719528523Nor is implying women won't touch the person you're arguing with make what you're saying sound any more less moronic.Nobody is talking about the existence of notepad, and the fact that you think this is the issue makes what you're saying all the more ridiculous.
>>719515349>What's wrong? If you won't buy slop, I will.
>>719528049the source code hoarder...
>>719528627Im not implying shit, we both know you repulse women, thats why you act this way. Happy people would explian why you cant copy and paste the code into notepad, zip it, and save it on a disc.
>>719528749Meh, Mike Mika is cool, and so is Heineman. Ultimately, all of those people are/were devs, so I can't blame them for not releasing anything. I wish Interplay and Ubisoft allowed the Fallout and HoMM3 source code release.
>>719528846*Bethesda and
>>719528801I don't believe someone who's 50 years old posts like this.You're some kid lying about his age.
sooo. Did they nerf the fuck out of archers like they typically do in these updated games?
>>719528986>nerfwut
>>719528916>Didnt refute shit about CDs having the space for a zipped notepad file.
>>719528986The only time archers are strong in this game is when the enemy uses them as they're places out of reach with the best gear possible for the level. They could stand to be nerfed in dorter desu
>>719529108Have a good night kid.
Fun fact: John Calhoun printed the source code for Glider Pro so he could preserve it.The source code ended up being released to the public in 2016, anyway.
honestly this is another horrible remake that should not exist that they are rushing to cash in on this shows a lot of character, and it's going to be a piece of shit and it just makes me hate the series.No this game made for ps1 does not need to be in 4k so it can have shitty cartoon slop graphics from the devil's asshole. You already played this game to death and you should boycott it.
Is this seriously /v/'s first time learning a lot of game companies didn't keep source code past a certain point decades ago?
>>719529194i'm gonna buy it
>>719529207I just wanted to say it's retarded for them to constantly bring it up since it just makes them look bad.
>>719529194if they would just have made it a sequal another installment but they already fucked it up tactics advanced they already ruined the series, another one where the first game is the only good one, all they know how to do with their nippon brains is clone it like animals.IT IS SLOP!
>>719529301They bring it up as a point to justify how hard they worked on the remake and it's worth every penny
>>719529301This must be a generation thing. Anyone older than 30 doesn't think that makes them look bad because they were around during the 90's.
>>719529269I will not buy it, look at it's shitty cartoon graphics, the original didn't even do that...it's literally a demake on superior tech, I wonder if it like the ps1 version will just slow down to hell when it gets a little complicated.
>>719529439It's the same style as the original (unless you're talking about the cutscenes, which mimics the portraits and the out-of-game art).I'm picking it up, looks good to me.
looking back on it final fantasy tactics wasnt very tactical. fuckin bullshit
>>719500505don't you have some jews to betray your race and country for?
>>719529439furthermore the original was horribly cucked by hardware, and the psp version was horrible and fucked it all up by changing the dialogue to old english and added the shitty cartoon cutscenes, I wouldn't be surprised if you pay for a literal copy paste of shitty psp cutscenes in the current year. I would just be very warry of the industry at this point. At least it's on steam at least it will help pc destroy consoles.
>>719529491it wasn't very final eitherThis is the worst mislabeled thing I've seen since the Neverending Story
>>719529408No, the dumb fags should have saved the text to a CD like bro did >>719529170It wasn't this much text, especially in jap writing >>719529108
>>719529551Anon, the reason that's pointed out is specifically BECAUSE it was uncommong to save the source code back then.Now imagine you have a lot of titles, and you're printing out all of them and needing to store and keep it organized (and throughout several moves, department changes, etc over the years)
>>719529551That's a book. This, however, was an actual example of source code and assets on a CD.This is probably what John Carmack gave to Heineman to make the infamous 3DO port.
>>719529538honestly an emulated version of the original ps1 is best, and to be honest the game ages only so well.>that's why it needs a demake!it's just copying shit and amplifying it, it's an outdated fucking game!MAKE A REAL PRODUCT YOU NIPS!
>>719529551oh /v/never stop being your retarded selves
>>719529551kekyou used a quote for some kid who was pretending to be 50 as an "example" of anything?
I can't see myself buying this, I have already bought the first game, I already beat it, why would I pay for it again and again and again?what kind of tool do you think I am?I can just emulate my legal copy whenever I want you fucking yellow slanty eyed jews
>>719529345Which translates to:>we don't value what we make and the money fans gave us back then was put to waste, as we're now doing the entire thing over again but this time worse>we're also charging you more than we previously did even though we're doing less work, because reasons>>719529408Shut the fuck up already you retarded bootlicker.
>>719529752I don't think they read 4chan anon. You don't need to address them.
I will watch people play it, I will take in the hype, I will watch the bipolar and cope, and then I will attack it like a tiger and devour it.
>>719529782>being knowledgeable means someone is a bootlickerZoomers get the tiniest taste of "down with the man" online "protesting", they start throwing buzzwords willy nilly
>>719529651I get the assets, Im just surprised the actual source code wasn't saved.Purely to copy and paste parts as needed.>>719529620Small US firm, yea I guesse. Large Japanese business? They sure love there beaucracy over there. The land of triplicate forms.
>>719497349Intro is better than the WotL's intro at least. I always hated that version's intro. Had none of the energy as the original intro.
>>719529806and furthermore my opinion of the original game is getting a serious demake as well, you have to punish bad behavior not reward it.
>>719501749you cant prove there is a God so shut the fuck up forever
>>719529674>>719529737Did you double respond or are the cringe old fags cloning themselves. Either way, yikes!
>>719529918Because unless there were plans to reuse it for another project, there was no need to spend resources/space on it beyond a certain point. This was well before preservation was on man people's minds.The reason the few people who did even did it in the first place is largely because of pride in their own work and wanting to keep it themselves (or again, if a future project would be based on it)Obviously gaming in general has changed, storage is cheap and plentiful, and rereleases are huge.
However If multiplayer is ok, then at least it has a reason to exist but it will never ever be worth the asking price for what it is, unless they really change it and really add features that make jaws drop.At least if it can maintain a good multiplayer then it has a reason to live and this is just some late stage weird thing for boomer fans that all died now.
>>719529925I don't care.I was pointing out it's retarded to address them directly. They don't read these.Just give your opinion like a non tard
>>719528035>“In 2012 when 2K games wanted to reissue Bioshock they didn't have it,” says Alex Handy, director of the Museum of Art and Digital Entertainment, an organization that has committed itself to archiving a medium that has historically had zero concern for its own history. “They had to run around, computer to computer, asking ‘does this guy have Bioshock?’ This is one of the biggest games of the 2000s and they couldn’t find the source code.”>https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-playstation-history-with-backward-compatibility
>>719529981>yikestop kek
>>719530127>>719528190we are talking about a japanese company
>>719530074>multiplayer
>>719530127/v/ is full of idiot zoomers anon.this is seriously the first they're hearing of this.
>>719530074a fft game like this you should be able to live in it, it should fulfill all my needs, but I know it's just shit slop. THey should make a new game that isn't shit that makes fft that game from a hundred years ago look like a joke, isn't the industry advancing and not stagnant or my god regressive? Where is the result of all this time? It's not there, that's the truth, they are lazy greedy nips.
>>719530161The post they were responding to was someone claiming that anyone was defending "Japanese idiotic practices". They're pointing out this was a worldwide thing, not Japanese only.For future reference, you can get context by following up what they're quoting so you don't look like an idiot.
>>719530183there will certainly be multiplayer especially on steam right? why would you even buy this thing?...
>>719530161The point was that it is something that happened in both sides of the Pacific.719530187Go fuck yourself.
>>719510790TO is good but FFT is like TO's significantly hotter sister with bigger tits
>>719530254
>>719530254>multiplayerThe fuck are you talking about? FF Tactics is a single-player game
This is a verified list of video games whose source code was lost at least temporarily by the copyright holder. If anyone wants sources that verify that the source code for a particular game was lost, feel free to ask.Almost one-hundred games from Atari Corporation.Most old Konami, Sega and Square Enix games.The Rockman World game series (a.k.a. the Mega Man games for Game Boy).Living Books series.Autoduel (1985).Ambermoon (1993).Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator (2004-2012).BioShock (2007).Blade Runner (1997).Blake Stone: Planet Strike (1994).Bubble Bobble (1986).Chasm: The Rift (1997).Virgin Games' Disney's Aladdin (1993).Doom for Sega Saturn (1997).Doom II: Hell on Earth for Microsoft Windows (1995).Duke Nukem (1991).Duke Nukem II (1993).Ecco the Dolphin (1992).Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (2002).Fallout (1997).Fallout 2 (1998).Final Fantasy VII (1997) [less than a year after release].Final Fantasy VIII (1999).Gemini Rue for Android (2014).Golden Axe (1989).Grim Fandango (1998).Heroes of Might and Magic III: Complete (2000).Hollywood Monsters (1997).Homeworld: Cataclysm (2000).Icewind Dale II (2002).Lure of the Temptress (1992).Marathon 2: Durandal for Microsoft Windows (1996).Mass Effect: Pinnacle Station (2009).Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee for Microsoft Windows/DOS (1997).Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus for PlayStation (1998).Prince of Persia (1989).Ridiculous Fishing for Android (2013).Saints Row 2 for Microsoft Windows (2008).Sonic Spinball (1993).Star Control 2 for DOS (1992).System Shock 2 (1999).Tribes 2 (2001).Virtua Racing (1992).Virtua Formula (1993).Zool for Amiga (1992).ZZT (1991).There's only beta source code surviving for Disney's Beauty & The Beast: A Boardgame Adventure (1999), Donkey Kong (1983) [Atari 8-bit], The Little Mermaid II: Pinball Frenzy (2000), Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee [PSX], Silent Hill 2 (2001), and Silent Hill 3 (2003).It's a pity that source code releases aren't more common.
>>719530060Again I get the assets but the actual code would of been incredibly easy to store, even for a big company.I guess thats what makes it so foreign and intresting. The mindset not too, that it wasn't on people minds.
>>719530296THE FUCKING PSP HAD MULTIPLAYER AND IT WAS SHIT SLOP BUT THEY AT LEAST ADDED SHIT TO IT THEY HAD THAT MUCH RESPECT FOR HUMANITY
>>719530258Nah, /v/ actually is full of idiot zoomers. I agree.Example: This thread
>>719530303BioShock (2007): Recovered and it compiles fine.Blake Stone: Planet Strike (1994): Recovered, released under the GPL.Virgin Games' Disney's Aladdin (1993): Recovered by the Video Game History Foundation.Ecco the Dolphin (1992): Recovered by CodeFire to make a Game Body Advance port.Fallout (1997): Recovered by Tim Cain. It does not compile.Grim Fandango (1998): Recovered.Heroes of Might and Magic III: Complete (2000): Source code for the Mac port recovered.Prince of Persia (1989): Recovered, available on GitHub. https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-IISaints Row 2 for Microsoft Windows (2008): Recovered, an update it's on the works. Deep Silver and Volition promised Mike "IdolNinja" Watson that they will finish the update no matter what. The likelihood of Volition actually delivering, however, is pretty low, considering that they are now dead, and six feet under.Sonic Spinball (1993): Recovered by CodeFire to make a Game Body Advance port.Virtua Formula (1993): Recovered, used as the basis for the Virtua Racing port for Nintendo Switch.ZZT (1991): There's a byte accurate recreation on GitHub under the MIT License with the blessing of Tim Sweeney. The actual source code from 1991 was recovered in 2023.
>>719530287TO is better than FFT in just about every way except being smaller and more casual
>>719497349They won't remake the game with those visuals. Squix is full of dumb retards.
THIS SHIT IS 50$???????? AND IT'S ONLY TACTICS PS1 WITH AI UPSCALED GRAPHICS, SUCK MY COCK, WHAT THE FUCK. FOR 50$ MIGHT AS WELL GIVE US GBA AND DS ONES TOO
>>719530296It had some garbage multiplayer mode no one played tacked on the PSP release. No one seriously wants it. Dumbfucks just use its absence as an excuse to bitch and cry.
>>719530354Pretty reductionist aren't we
>>719530318I didn't really save any of my projects in High School and College after awhile, because their purpose was served.The idea of re-releasing a game wasn't really a thing early on. They largely made brand new games for each new console, not just rerelease stuff. Hell, the collection of NES Mario games for the SNES collection distinctly feels different physics-wise when playing Super Mario 1 because they didn't have code for the first game, and you can tell in the controls.Nowadays, games get re-released almost every new console release. Completely different mindset
>>719530345No fucking way. Chapter 1, I 100% agree. As the game goes on though... and Catuia.Tactics gets better the more you play, TO gets exponentially worse.
>>719530451>Hell, the collection of NES Mario games for the SNES collection distinctly feels different physics-wise when playing Super Mario 1 because they didn't have code for the first game, and you can tell in the controls.>Present among the numerous assets in the July 2020 Nintendo leak was source code and a small amount of other assets for Super Mario All-Stars. Notably, this includes source code for the games included in the compilation, which was modified from the source code for the original games. However, the source code for Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario World is missing, as well as the majority of the code for Super Mario Bros. 3. This may be due to the code being taken and repurposed for the Super Mario Advance games.https://tcrf.net/Development:Super_Mario_All-Stars_(SNES)It was written in ASM, anyway.
did they fix the translation of the chapter 4 title?
I will never buy it without multiplayer or something that really sells it, adding in shitty british accents that aren't even saying things the shitty looking units in upscaled shit would even say is cancer. Every time a unit talks it feels like I'm being degraded.they r-r-r-ruined it~I would pay nothing for it since it has no reason to exist, it's 2025 and there's no multiplayer at all?
>>719530470nta but it heavily depends on what you find more important in these games. I can definitely see someone preferring TO
So I'm taking a few of these posts is one really weird person trying to troll, with how... weird I'll say... some of his "complaints" are.
>>719530550They added being able to undo your movement, rejoice.
I didn't even pay $50 for the original when I bought it new iirc it was like 10-15$ for a good game, complete with manual and all, this is just so insulting that I don't know how to take it.
>>719530487Well I stand partially corrected on that one.So what was the reason for Super Mario Bros 1 having different physics than the NES version? I always heard it was the absence of code for that one specifically
>>719530580Yes, anyone who just replays that glorious first chapter over and over again. It was better than anything in FFT.
>>719530691I never found the first Chapter all that good for anything other than the last decision point and setting up the rest of the story.What I loved about TO was the full "Lawful" route and the questionable decisions needed to make that work. Made for a much more interesting story and complex main character in that route.FFT always felt like "what if we took the Chaos route, but focused on it and made it actually good"
the industry is weird, I think it really does function on "well they will just be such suckers it will go well" this thing should be destroyed, and it's already too late to "add multiplayer", that should have been a given. Why change anything, why give me shitty British voice acting? TO scam me. To scam people out of their money. It is a scam slop game. All that keeps it going is delusion and if that literally sells copies then it's scary.
the way the ui contrasts with the shit and with the voices is so gross...I hate this game.
>>719530673Good question. I swear I saw the answer somewhere, but I can't find it, either in the archives nor Twitter.
I think there's a no-shit bot posting in here now.Some of these newer posts are very weird.
>>719530857Huh. I'm curious now, I'll have to look around if I can find it later as well.
>>719530838instead of the graceful silent units they were with no mouths that you can see because graphics are shit since it's a ps1 and that's the excuse. Why not since it's 2025 just remake it in Unreal? and simulate all the little details of what it is to be in the tactics world down to the fibers on their ass. Then you can add shit voices, then you can single player it, then you can give me nothing but the same shit, and even then I wouldn't buy it since it's unoriginal.
>All the seethe here when we haven't been able to see how hard Tactical mode is and the so-called added dialogue and improvementsI'll wait until the game is fully out to assess if it's worth my money on sale of course.
>>719530470the story is straight up better in 2/3 routes with actual conclusions to the themes and tying up of loose ends. FFT completely swerving from the oligarchies vs commons in favor of demons and the complete lack of final confrontation between Ramsa/Delita will always leave a bad taste in my mouth. TO has better gameplay, variety, and maps. TO's customization is more interesting. Don't get me wrong, every version has some annoying shit to it like leveling or some of the skill grinding, but as an overall game TO is much grander and more ambitious than FFT which includes being more fun to replay to me
>>719530979why not just make a product....I could have anger problems because of this game...why not make a product worth a fuck instead of slop? Wouldn't you rather spend your short life doing that? do you have any honor?
>>719531070This game is an insult to my intelligence. It should be a crime, you can't just sell shit to children.
>>719531032Only some seethe, I think one of these was just a troll, and some of the latest ones might be a bot.There's some legitimate complaints here and there though for people whose first experience was the PSP version. I may disagree on it being better, but it's a very fair point of reference for how they view the game.
>>719530451The source code for a video game is obviously worth more than the assignments they give to children you dumbass.
>>719497349I thought you meant the game and I got excited only to be disappointed.
Did a real studio even make this holy shit, the upgrades are so lame.
>>719531138>calls someone else a dumbass when they miss the point
>>719527858>I have never worked read about 5S, peasant.
>>719500629The year of our lord 2025? You know the calendar is based on the resurrection of Jesus Christ right?
>>719531058I like the start when you can be creative, once the OP bosses join in it kills it for me.I just find Im collecting cards to create a character to fight back. Over and over and over again.So id agree with everything but gameplay and variety.
>>719530451By the time Final Fantasy Tactics was released, retro re-releases, remakes and ports were very common.
>>719531119I was referring to seethe outside of here too.>I may disagree on it being better, but it's a very fair point of reference for how they view the game.This is a fair reason for not being happy, but I also remember that the added content was pretty contentious and it was never in the original. It's not surprising to me that the team decided to just work with the original and tried to address complaints related to it.
>>719531164I don't have anything to play this month.I already beat TO:R, so I'm just doing some post-game Disgaea 5 (yeah, I know it's all about grinding and isn't actually Tactics or anything, but ti's fun grinding in it)A full month is annoying.
It is so lame that they would do this, because it's a business decision not just oh I can fuck over my family or freinds, this is about their real reputations and income. It's barely an even polished turd, oh god they have the war of the lions dialogue and they added in voice acting so it's like the already ruined game amplifying how shitty it is, something about those brittish voices is so toxic. "have at you" while you perform dash. It's not real time, it's awkward.
>>719531260Birth you thirdie.
>>719531296Yeah, that's why I don't agree with them about WotL being better. I really didn't like some of the story additions from some of the new cutscenes.
That is a firm no to it. I just think that people are so brainrotted and demoralized that they will accept anything and not even know what the problem is.
>>719531260People born in 25 are turning 2000 this year....
>>719531294Which ones around 1997? Most of the ones I recall are from the early 2000s
>>719531396when the price falls to 0-5 dollar range and I have nothing better to get then maybe.
>>719531397Gosh were old.I'm still acting like I'm in my 1990's.
>>719531396People are not people anymore, just consumers. A lot will even buy and never even play.
>>719531387Personally, what irritates me most is the argument about Ramza and being a Dark Knight.
that a company like squeenix did this is surprising just as a namebrand, why would they do this? are they terrorists? are they trolls? why would you do this?
>>719531417This doesn't even include ports. Some other notable examples are the Microsoft Arcade series.
>>719531504I'm not familiar with that one actually. I only know of the Dark Knight and Onion Knight being added, but not that there was apparently an argument surrounding specifically DK and Ramza.
>monk best weapon is a purseI am not playing that
>>719531492that's will never last, the iq to money spent will somehow collapse into death/poverty for the little minions they feed onI actually may take a stand and just never buy it, I didn't buy any of them after advance, I didn't like 12 too much either.Like you can gaslight yourself, no there is no excuses for an industry like that to produce shit...but it's been very redpilling the slop is slop it's not as good as it could be.
>>719531536Interesting.Appreciate it anon. I recalled Super Mario All Stars and Lunar (which was more a full remake(, but not so much the others.
>>719531582I wasn't aware of that being a thing.And honestly now that just makes me want to make a purse monk in D&D. Like some Jackie Chan shit, but with purses and otehr women items.
>>719531546It was extrapolation by people who weren't happy that Ramza can't get cool sword skills, which is ridiculous to me because said 'cool sword skills' are the property of actual recognized vets, something that Ramza never was.
then don't produce it who put a gun to anyone's head and made them make slop that they didn't even want to make so they sabotaged it? I could draw shit stick figures on my wall but I won't, if it mona lisa of shit then maybe it would be like wow that's really insane that they even said it was about class war lets say then made the most capitalist insane slop to rape your soul is very telling of the japanese psychopathy.
>>719531705I don't think it is a thing anon
>>719531657The Namco Museum and the Williams Arcade's Greatest Hits series started in 1995. They weren't either ports nor remasters, but they do show that there was an interest in reselling old games for newer platforms, even back then.
>>719531727>this one is for the people>*ppppbbbbtttttttffff!!!! and giant turd*and they ate it up25 years ago we made a game for the people>"pbbbbbbfffffftttttt"the level of dishonor is just astoundingfuck this gamefuck squeenix it was the ivalice chronicles for me finally and it was the mgs3 demake for kojima/konami for mefuck the gaming industry how dare they
>>719531706Oh, I get it. I don't agree with it, but I get it.I always had Ramza dual-wielding swords by endgame if I remember correctly anyway.
>>719498449>RemakeYep, I'm thinking based
>>719531851and to be honest I almost say "i do not ask for a lot" we're so cucked, I do want a lot for a $50 bill, let alone a specific thing like this...oh what is that plebian!? Do get called a god of gaming like these japanese pedophiles? These people should shit gold but they don't. Or ff8 with it's combat system, how do you fuck up so hard on such a big project for such a big product? It's a terribly flawed reality.any fool could come up with shit that would make the game better, they did the literal bare minimum of thought...why even say anything if it's just crap for losers to be scammed with. I hate them.
>>719531937I might spring for Mediator just for the hell of it.
>>719532053this has made me realize I should be much more conservative with my gaming.
>>719532071That's where they get the killing god meme from they just simply belong in hell and we all know it.
really it's because we lied it wasn't all just shit in the first place, because we were children playing vidya and this is like a super late stage problem now where they just feed them slop based on decades ago. But those boys are pissed off now.
>>719532312easily boycott it, maga.
>>719531294>very commonNo not really.
>>719531058>the complete lack of final confrontation between Ramsa/Delita will always leave a bad taste in my mouthYou couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried.
>>719532491I mean... if that sequel ever happened (it won't, but if it did) it would likely be about a confrontation on the other continent (where the 50 Years' War took place)
The price literally being so high for what it is will deter people. They did this with tactics ogre as well, this style of shady business practice. They have that final fantasy ip and they will rape it to death probably. Maybe I just expected too much.
>>719532834Bro, you're retarded. Ramza and Delita have no reason to fight. They were never enemies at any point in the story.
>>719532862They even made an insanely shitty CE and gave it a dogshit pre-order bonus package.The company no longer has a sliver of a soul left. They're just bleeding the IPs.
>>719532862like "it's overpriced designer shit" even that is like kind of good, this is just so shitty.
>>719532862>budget price>highholy poorfag lol
>>719532938>According to the Final Fantasy Tactics collaboration in Lord of Vermilion III, which Matsuno says is canon, a few years after the ending of Final Fantasy Tactics, Ramza is still with his comrades, and in fact the group has grown even larger. The group is in Ordallia and helping out a resistance movement that opposes the country's oppressive regime. In this setting, there are rumors that as king of Ivalice, Delita is considering sending troops to Ordallia to help quash this resistance, and Ramza is prepared to oppose Delita once again in order to protect his friends, both new and old. While it is doubtful that the king himself would come to Ordallia, this nevertheless would put the two former friends on opposite sides once again.
>>719532940well I'll stop buying their shitty gamesthe industry is just really evil yeah and the ff7 remake I bought that, I wish I would have waited now and done things differently. Now I see it's sales weren't as good as it could have been and that's for admittedly a number of reasons, there was a lot of cope.
>>719532938Did you only play the WotL version? That added a bunch of weird extra Delita stuff out of nowhere that isn't really "canon"
>>719533104Anon, that particular poster (possibly a bot) has been spamming the thread with weird stuff for the last half of the thread. Just leave it.
>>719533104>budget priceyou mean 50 instead of your usual 70?wow
>>719533249anon at least I'm not culpable in this shenanigans, it's fun now but you're going to hell.
>>719533137I don't give a shit what happens in some unrelated game made years after the original.>>719533186I've only played the original.
>>719511823Fuck it then I'll just replay that on my ipad.
>>719532938Delita became like all the shit he claimed to fight against. By the end the only thing that really changed was he and his cronies were pulling strings instead of the nobles
Hey I'm here to take advantage of a thread that has both Final Fantasy and Openings involved and remind you that Crystal Chronicles was the GOAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkE5KQsK56khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVwZeZM6Wo
>>719533327Well it doesn't really matter if you don't give a shit, it's the literal writer of FFT.It's just funny you calling someone retarded for yourself being a retard is all.
>>719533417this never even registered as a game to me, nice water htough
>>719533453If it's not in the game it's fanfiction.Ramza and Delita were never enemies. Fact.
>>719533607>not a fact. "Fact"Jesus christ dude
I think it's weird it's like a war against the consumers to shovel slop down their throats. We're literally cattle to them if that's the business model and attitude then how can it survive in such a family business like that?
>>719533635Please point to the moment in FFT where they were enemies.
>>719533756Sure thing dude
Anyone with a Squarenix aacount can post the calendar wallpapers here? I wish I could but I don't know moonrunes.https://member.jp.square-enix.com/download/calendar?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mem_calendar_202509_1
>>719533930>Download the special wallpaper with calendar and decorate your desktop!>The images and designs are updated every month, so don't miss out!I wonder if all of them are embedded into the site
>>719529491>>719529550>wasn't tactical>wasn't final>fans get mad when the fantasy aspects start taking a front seat over the grounded political stuffWhat the heck...
>>719534260Recurring Political Turn-Based-Grid-BattleIvalice Chronicles
it's not that good, it's final fantasy tactics the whole gimmick is the ps1 rpg gameplay, the story is overemphasized now because it's core function is shit. The entire genre is probably outdated....think about what it is, tactics, they could have made a whole new game from that call it "final fantasy tactics two".
>>719533417abSOULutely. it gave me chills as a kid
>>719533930Are they FFT wallpapers or something?
>>719511548It's the psx game, already have that on my list.>>719512867That's like, your take.>>719512904>knight*
>>719518770That's pc, eh? Idk, I think they didn't fuck up all too bad.
>>719526825Even without the ogre blade, they are still visible. Can have multiple 100% procs, like stun and poison, can use blowguns, level as rk or cleric for high mind, stagger and dodge makes them dodge tanks, steelstance works well, too. Blowguns+Eagle eye are devastating, alternatively high mind and blowgun. Can go poison and short bow to dish out status procs fast, raise int do have ninjutsu deal damage and use the ninjutsu proc to dish out stop to everyone.Dualwield or katana + statstick.
>>719527205Iwd2 has an ee, but ok.
>>719530287Both are hot. Fft has more appeal, but I like to better. Killing a pirate and his gf. The gf dropping 3 sending stones hit different, knowing she was pregnant.
>>719538374IWD2 has a fan mod that they called an EE, which overrides things of the original release.It's not a remade version with enhancements. The source code (unless some random dev never heard word that people were looking for it) is no shit lost.
>>719538374No it doesn't. It has a mod.
>>719539723Called eeSee>>719538592
>>719540124Anon, the post that >>719538374 was replying to is clearly referring to an official release, hence the talk about source code.If someone were to name their mode "The Official Expansion" for a game, that doesn't mean the same thing as "an official expansion" being released for the game.
>>719540237>If someone were to name their mode "The Official Expansion" for a game, that doesn't mean the same thing as "an official expansion" being released for the game.Meaning a name alone might not be sufficient in all cases, I see.
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>>719497349>>719512331>>719512436>>719512776>>719512904Build for Ramza
>>719497349>that will be 59.99 plus tip
>>719527205I love how people these days will never understand that data / storage used to be the expensive part of computers (and hardware was relatively cheap in comparison) and now it is the opposite.
>>719548731>Large gaming companies couldn't store their most valuable assets for the future, it was too expensive>Random devs totally could do that tho.They were just incompetent anon, it was never about the price.
>>719522961just came to say you're a dirty fucking xiever kys
>>719497349How many times are they going to remake Matsuno's tactics games?
>>719497349Stop buying demakes
>>719549917Not buying fftr leads to less sales, leads to lower chance for an actual srpg coming out. The ones announced suck big league.
>>719550361Stop buying demakes
>>719497416holy fuck, i was trying to find an old strategy rpg that i forgot, that was it, hoshigami, thanks anon
>>719502436When you've got to count yourself standing alongside Muslims to prove a point, you know you've lost.
>>719550361buying demakes = more demakes with lower budgetsthey're just trying to fleece you, they aren't trying to make gamesthey have money to make games
>>719531757Purse weapon can bypass monk "no weapon" requirement. Iirc damage is a bit random but its still stats vs nothing
>>719531582You dumb nigger monk gets a damage boost when unarmed due to the brawler passive, the fist damage scales on a percentage with bravery a 97 bravery monk can nuke niggas by punching them and dual wield monk kills every single unit in the game except some bosses with a single attack, at some point dual wielding him becomes irrelevant since killing an enemy twice doesn't matter.Good hp scaling not best stats tho, the leveling system is a bit fucked up and I don't like it.
>>719550526>>719551026I won't buy fft demake. It's objectively the worst published edition. Fft selling well will raise the chance for a proper srpg in the future.
>>719551337Equipping a purse on a female monk is actually less damage, the purses are useless except if you use them to give their passive abilities to units that will never attack anyway, and they're only very fringe cases since every mage has a staff or rod that is way better.
>>719551851This has not, and does not happen, stop trying to make up excuses to shill demakes.
>>719531260Did you know that this "Christian" calendar actually predates Christianity? It was made by Julius Caesar.What does that have to do with anything anyway? Just because a religious person touched something doesn't instantly make you religious if you use it, just like saying "oh my god" in shock when you're not religious doesn't suddenly make you a saint.
>>719552034Why are you daft? Have you been raped (again)? Companies produce games. They choose games that promise profit. If a game has been profitable, they might make a similar game (again). Not difficult, is it? This version is shit, not all remakes are completely bad.
>>719552504>Julius CaesarGaius julius, if you want educated people to take you seriously. Every other roman emperor was julius caesar. You are referring to gaius julius.
>>719552668Everybody knows who THE Julius Caesar was. Every Roman emperor had a million titles but they weren't their actual names.You are either supremely autistic or are trying to bait me, in which case you've won I guess.
>>719522771Who gives a fuck, XIV is a shit game and an insult to XI (that it loves to ape)
>>719552623They see that DEMAKES sell, and continue to make them instead of new games because retards will gladly pay for old games again and again with this misguided and equally as retarded notion that they will get new games when that is not the case.You are an idiot, go fuck yourself with a cactus.
>>719552856Is there a third possibility? Preferably one that includes vidya.
>>719553248>fuck yourself with a cactus.Had your mother yesterday, can't recommend.>continue to sell demakesCertainly, but to and fft are/will be successful, so they might release a new tactics game. Ideally it will be a good game. Additionally I'd like to see a full remake of vs.
>>719523207tell that to a muslim, muhammad. he was a fucking pedo.disgusting, aidsridden subhuman piece of shit>>719500505BASEDI won't buy this cheap cashgrab either
