I liked the demo on the PS2 but never played the full game.
>>719505824It's much better than the originals
Quite frankly, by today's standards it's just about decent.It's not bad and I had a good time, but there's nothing memorable either.
Wait, this is a real game? Did someone make this as a fangame or something? I always thought it was a fake ARG game just made to draw porn of
>>719505824i think youd be better off playing the originals, heck even the wii remake of the first game is a better remake than this
>>719505824The lighting is fucked.Play the originals instead.
tl;dr its ok but definitely get it on sale. the purists can suck a fat one.if you cant get into emulation, its a barely passable port. or maybe you are a crazed fan and want to "vote with your wallet XD"the door to phantomile cutscenes do not hold up to the original at all, the charm is lost but the gameplay and music is basically 1:1the yapping cutscenes fall short because it was less noticeable how little was going on when its just sprites, but with 3d models you kind of expect more animation. this is a budgeted port so that just isnt going to happen.as for the ps2 game, they fumbled some lighting whenever leorina was supposed to be shadowed or sneaking around, but lets be fucking honest here:I dont really think people play klonoa 1 or 2 for the story even if the twist is awesome. Oh, and I dont give two fucks about the costumes.
>>719505824It's REALLY fucking bad and you should emulate the originals. Some chucklefucks think it's reeeaaal funny to deceive newcomers and tell them this shitty demake is acceptable or even better than the originals. Ignore them
>>719506140now thats an opinion right there. wow.you know dtp reverie IS the wii version right? It's a port of a port, but atleast klonoa looks like hes supposed to.
>>719507214>>719506304Replicating lighting is very hard in ports, since I think they often just recreate the game and its assets in a new engine, or they just port the "game" but not all the lightin and shaders.
>>719507214>they fumbled some lighting whenever leorina was supposed to be shadowed or sneaking around, but lets be fucking honest here:Nigger, the first fucking level as a whole is way too bright, gives a whole different feel to it. This ain't about villain reveals or whatever the fuck you're yapping about.
>>719507521nah, theres no excuse for it. If namco cared they would take the 2 seconds to fix the lighting. this is an old game, specifically a reused engine.the reverie collection runs in the same engine as klonoa on wii, its just new textures and just a few new models. klonoa 2 was remade in this engine, while klonoa 1 was just ported.you are allowed to like things but lets not pretend its too hard
>>719507873You have to fix the lighting per scene, which would take weeks or months and these games do not have the budget for such things. They are budgeted to coome out as fast as possible. >Hey Namco. Can we have another million dollars to tweak all the lighting in the game?>No? Okay then.Rush rush rush.
>>719507701I didnt really defend the port, no need to scream at someone who agrees with you. I said its playable and the visuals are bad. Don't call me a nigger, you nigger.
>>719508265>its playableEven that's debatable
>>719508574God I hate third worlders so fucking goddamn much
>>719508574I don't like the thick character outlines on ps2. I guess i'm a hater
>>719509007inexcusable
>>719508994removing the outlines makes it look worse cause its core to 2's artistic style
>>719509007god damn that wood texture looks bad. They couldnt just make a large jpg or something? it looks straight out of sonic 06
>>719507873It's actually entirely Unity. They just ported all the assets and reworked them from DTP's Wiimake, and maybe used the code as a direct basis for how to recreate things (which still wasn't foolproof). Klonoa 2 was just straight up entirely remade in Unity. So yeah, the visual fuckups aren't great but I'm not very surprised they exist. I'm more bothered that the Wind Bullet range and consistency is fucked unless you play on Easy.
>>719509007That's just sloppy
>>719509087is it really? I dont think it matches the art direction of the rest of the game. the characters just have it and it looks like they shouldnt as if its a bug.
>>719508994The main issue with this pic isn't the outline removal, it's how they totally fucked up the geometry of the room. Notice how everything curved toward the top in the PS2 version. The fucking monkeys who butchered the game for the demake can't comprehend a detail as basic as that.
>>719509515I hate the old geometry, I just think the lighting changes the entire tone of the scene. The weirdest thing is the fish scale texture on the floor
Hideo Yoshizawa confirmed on Twitter that a GameCube port of Klonoa 2 was never planned.
No one ever talks about how badly they fucked up Biskarshhttps://youtu.be/-MQVNpa9Cwo?t=5600https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPxHTIdP58>Streets below no longer on fire and death pits are just a black void>No more fire cascading off the sides of buildings>Ash filled sky turned to a beautiful dusk>War torn city no longer in ruins>Biskarsh doesn't even animate, he's a drag and drop objectThis was the earliest tell that whoever was incharge of the remake had 0 respect for the artistic integrity of the game.
>>719506304The font is clearly the bigger problem.
>>719511345piss and shit.they are both bad.
The demakes are akin to piss and shit. Waste products, bad.The originals are akin to Klonoa's cum. The seed of life, full of nutrients, good.
to this day I have no clue what the plot of klnoa is, despite beaitng both games.
>>719511686You are a pedophile.
>>719512538Klonoa is an avatar of you, the player, jumping through dream worlds.1 was akin to waking up from a really good dream as a kid2 was lucid dreaming as an adult
Everyone suggesting you play the shitty remastered collection is a Indian shill. Just emulate the originals. As for the games themselves, they aren't anything groundbreaking or special when compared to other titles in the genre, but they're short, well designed romps with decent music, and a cute art style. >>719506061Everything you just said makes me want to turn my head into swiss cheese; popping multiple bullets into my cranium.
>>719513037>they aren't anything groundbreaking or specialThey are special to me and I think about them all the time
>>719511686What is wrong with you?
Every game should have a "character looks at the screen with a blank expression" button, I had way too much fun with that in the first game.
>>719512713what does that mean? is any of it true? does he live in a dream world? i don't get it.
>>719513372
>>719513424>>719512538>t. Too retarded to understand the plot of a children's gameThis board is gay nigger-AIDS.
>>719512568>>719513260I'm sorry...
wahee?
>>719513743It's fine. Just stop obsessing over cabbit cum. It's bad for the mind.
this game made me sob uncontrollably
>>719505958>Implying modern visuals are above ps1 grainy goodness and pre rendered backgroundsBlatant lie.
>>719516531if the grain was so good, why didn't they just throw it in an emulator like the other remasters done these days?
>>719516871>why didn't they just throw it in an emulator like the other remasters done these days?>emulatorthere is your answer
>>719505824As someone who played the remakes first: Try to emulate the originals if you can. The gameplay is pretty much the same and the originals look much better.
Would you eat at a Klonoa themed burger joint?
any good ケモショタ artists?
>>719520401マンモスまりも...
>>719520584Yeah everyone knows about him, how bout some more?
>>719520650:(
>>719505824>paying for a game you can emulate for free, and the money you pay doesn't even go to the original developers.Don't be a goose.
>>719505824The pre-rendered cutscenes of the original completely outclass the lazy slop they produced for the remake.It's so egregious that I consider these games a de-make in terms of presentation.
>>719517071>Neopets Klonoa gameI bet that has been long lost.
Surely the game sold enough copies and made enough money across PC, Switch and PS4, PS5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S to fund Klonoa 3, right? The collection was AA low budget, they could shit out a third game on the cheap
>>719522936https://youtu.be/UHxvRGoWvzQThis might be the only footage
>>719505824This version is truly awful.
>In addition to its PlayStation 2 release, there were rumoured plans for a GameCube port that would have released the following year after the PlayStation 2 release. The news was first mentioned in NextGen Magazine #82 as part of their GameCube Watch section, alongside other Namco titles that were being made for GameCube.[2] This blurb was then referenced in an online article from IGN.[3] GameSpy also reported on it in their 'Most Wanted Games of 2002' online feature.[1] The port was described as being an "enhanced version"[2] that would have had improved graphics that were optimized for the console. Otherwise, it was believed to have been a straight port to the GameCube.[3]>On January 1st, 2025, series creator Hideo Yoshizawa confirmed on Twitter that a GameCube port of Klonoa 2 was never planned.
>>719517071Does Klonoa 2 still have emulation issues?
>Look up Hideo Yoshizawa's last involvement in a game>Muscle MarchHuh. What a way to go.
>>719505824Kemoshota peepee!
>>719523526Has just a few graphical issues.https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Klonoa_2:_Lunatea%27s_Veil
>>719523634
I was groomed by a 50 year old man on this forum when I was 13https://forum.klonoa.network/
>>719524782Do you remember his username?
Lux
>>719505824I think the ports are 'fine' but how hard would it be for these companies to just sell roms of these games, because they surely aren't selling the same game with these odd remasters. Not to mention Klonoa 2 remaster still has performance issues.
>>719524823WelshGent7
>>719525071Nothing comes up when I search. Guess he scrubbed his account, the faggot coward
>>719525171Or he got banned. This was 9 years ago so he is probably long gone.
>>719524782This is depressing and fucked up
>>719511345Soulful fonts died with PS3/360.
>>719525071Figures. All British "people" are boy diddlers.
>>719525918>All British "people" are boy diddlers.Do you think Shakespeare had boys and men in al roles in his plays out of requirement, or just a British personal preference?
>>719509007looks like they misaligned the textures, whoever was in charge of texture mapping did a retard
>>719527582I would do vile things to that Klonoa…
Yeah it's alright.
>>719512568Klonoa isn’t even a kid. In Klonoa 1 maybe, but in Klonoa 2 he’s definitely more like a teen or young adult
>>719528434>Klonoa isn’t even a kid. In Klonoa 1 maybe, but in Klonoa 2 he’s definitely more like a teen or young adultIn Door to Phantomile, he is in 4th grade.In Lunatea's Veil, he is in 8th grade.
>>719505824The schizo furfag klonoafags of /v/ hate it because a green pixel was colored wrong or some insane trivial schizo shit>B-BUT LOOK AT THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO SHOWING ALL THE SHIT THEY DID TO CHANGE IT THE SOUL IS GONE>Said shit is minor or barely indistinguishable to a regular person who doesn't fap to kemoshota 24/7I played it, had fun, ran into no troubles, perfect achievements even. Get fucked.
>>719528668You should get fucked retard. This post radiates small dick energy.
>>719528580Could be a mistranslation
>>719523287>it's just a quizWell that was pointless.
>>719507521>replicatingHow about just making something that isn't shit?
wahoo?
>>719528668Like, how badly does someone have to fuck up their job before it's okay to point it out? You're a faggot btw.
>>719533985i thought the silent hill 2 remake was pretty good, even if you didn't it's nowhere near as bad looking as those other examples
>>719536247The problem was mostly that the remake missed the point. Making it more combat heavy when it wasn't a focus in the first place, and worse was them trying to remove all the goofy aspects just to add a giant enemy spider phase to the final boss. It felt a bit tone-deaf to me.Also, I will never stop pointing out that Angela looks like David Duchovny in the remake.
>>719506304>>719508395>>719508574>>719509007>>719510592Are they even trying? I hate remakes so much.
>>719505824Can't you just emulate?
