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How many of you actually played this?
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Played it years ago. The cgs aren't even good.
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A drawing? You can't play a drawing, anon.
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>>719515624
I don't play RPG Maker porn games, period. And I don't play RPG Maker games that use the default RTP, porn or otherwise.
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>dogshit ''''''''''art''''''''''' rpgmakerslop
It's a meme, batman
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Huh? It still went surprisingly well...
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>>719515624
anyone who isn't a shitposter echoing other people's opinions played it
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>>719516191
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My wife's in this game
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>>719516483
You mean MY wife?
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>>719516191
>Overwhelmingly Positive
I don't really get it, I don't remember BS1 ever being that highly praised. It was always just the 6/10 game you had to play to understand BS2
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>>719516483
Did you rape her?
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>>719516681
BS1 is still great within its own right compared to any other h-rpgmaker showelware I ever played.
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>>719516740
Of course. She enjoys getting raped.
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>>719516681
Honestly? most people know its a set up to BS2 and are voting with that in mine
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Leaf Love?
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>>719516191
It would have been like 50k~100k sales by now if EMMM hadn't taken years to put it on Steam.
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>>719517731
No.
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>>719517731
Leaf LOVE
Leaf thread
Leaf board
Leaf website
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Me
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>>719517731
LEAF LOVE!
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>>719516681
virtue signalling
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>>719515624
It's weird that they ask $$$ for it when an actual good game like Enchanted Farm is free.
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>>719515624
i've only beaten the first game
it's rapekino
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I just want a true happy ending with Leaf.
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>>719516191
I am low key kind of excited for uncensored BS2.
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>>719518438
enchant farm is just a generic rpgmaker game with a bunch of dumb memes shoehorned in, not sure why it gets glazed here so much. It has a couple good ideas like the map design and weapons with elemental types but then a bunch of really bad ideas like making you tediously do all level ups manually or having the most crappy menuing systems ever for the extremely convoluted weapon upgrade system. It's so gay having to swap someone into your party just to level them up manually so you can swap them back out of your party so you can upgrade a weapon (and you don't get to even see if the weapon will be good or not until after you do all this shit)
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>>719519682
It's literally one guy who has been shilling it in every single BS thread for months now.
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>>719515624
I just got to ending G of BS2, just gotta play DLC3 and I'm finally done with this piece of shit (BS1 is beter)
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What was the point of the boys?
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>>719517261
Hot. Break that flying onahole.
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>>719520251
By far the hottest H-scenes, especially the threesome one, I'd love to be in the serpent god's place :3
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>>719520313
This
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>>719515624
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>>719520251
There's a lore behind this. You just need to connect the dots
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>>719520313
>>719520251
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I
NEED
ALICE
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What's the strat for a SL1 run?
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>>719520864
Leaf deserves correction for doing this~
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s*op would be an improvement over those unfinished doodles
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>>719521287
The doodles are the added charm
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>>719516681
third worlders like to leave epic dank memerinos and greentext in reviews
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>>719521287
Rude and uncultured swine.
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>>719520251
For me to cum.
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>>719521975
First worlder here, I vastly prefer BS1 over BS2 :)
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>>719522001
Built for anal rape.
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>>719522323
make a review consisting of some retarded catchphrase to show your support and how 4channel sekrit club you are. out of 10!
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>>719515624
played it in 2017 a bit before it got translated, was pretty readable even with my poor nihongo
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>>719522547
It's probably like this instead
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>>719522518
>ds1 released 14 years
>bs1 released 8 years ago
>bs1 is closer to the release of ds1 than now
WTF AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
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>>719522547
i hope it made sense in your head.
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>>719515624
I played it.
Liked the art.
Gameplay was shit, even for the RPG maker game.
Story was shit.

Rape button is there just for the shock factor, nothing interesting behind it, just one scene and you are done.
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>>719520251
To not be homosexual it says so right there
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>>719520251
Kill yourself, faggot.
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>>719522921
t.
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>>719523168
I say this
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I'm sorry I have a confession to make, for I have committed the greatest sin... I replaced EMMM's art so I can jerk off the porn better.
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I'm getting <fandom> vibes from this thread. Why do you have to ruin everything? Mommy didn't love you enough or what?
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>>719523372
Based.
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>>719515624
Me.
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>>719523404
Whatever that means
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>>719523532
Well the attention whoring by making drawings for what. I never want to see worse versions of shit that already exists
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>>719523372
Mod?
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>>719523798
Yeah. But its not completed yet.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1312Mg4I7haKdOR0EdtU4KQkhiBbwbiNB/view
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>>719523798
Milky back massages aren't allowed on blue boards?
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>>719523938
Damn, that's nice.
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>>719524129
It's nice. I really like each fairies has a unique CGs when you rape them
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>>719523938
There is no ALICE in there. You disgust me with your lack of devotion
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I'm going to banish
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>>719523372
>>719523938
>>719524353
Who made it?
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>>719524817
This artist
https://x.com/BigNyongNyong/status/1763888233870680212
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>>719515624
/v/ recommended me this piece of garbage as the best thing to come into gaming and as "the best game of all time" for some anons and i stupidly trusted this sithole and played this piece of garbage, i occasionally would come back and complain but every time anons would tell me to keep going "the gameplay is bad? it's all about the story broooo!1!!" "the story is bad? brooooooo you have to get all the endings brooooo!!" etc etc, after finishing the 2nd game and realising i wasted my time i seethed harder then i ever had at a game or at this place but after a while i realised that this was entirely my fault, i shouldn't have been such a fucking retard following along ignoring my own senses in favour of random anons on the Internet thinking they knew something i didn't
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>>719525107
Both the gameplay and the story are good. You just have shit taste.
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>>719525107
You wanna talk about it, champ?
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>>719522739
>Gameplay was shit, even for the RPG maker game.
>Story was shit.
>Spoiler
Based
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I've played this game since the pastebin was the only way to get it. It just really hit a lot of great notes with me.
I love the game, I love the characters, the setting, and the gameplay.
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>>719523372
It's BS1 so it's alright on my eyes, even considering how much I love the art
if this comes to BS2 it would be heretical however
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>>719525180
>Both the gameplay and the story are good.
Measurably, neither is good. The entire first game is literally
>dude what if we made the game bad, but it was like... ON PURPOSE!? LMAO! Now laugh!
And the 2nd game is hardly better.
And the gameplay is less amusing than what I do at work in Excel.
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>>719524353
I didn't see rape as a option, only on a few of the major characters I met.
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>>719515624
I’m like 2 hours in but I can’t bring myself to rape anyone so I feel like I’m missing out on the content
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>>719515624
What the fuck is this? Some of those rpg maker goobers right off some indie faggot's conveyor belt?
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>>719525527
Get the anti-fairy spray from the NPC plant
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>>719525107
This is a hard lesson every man must learn in life, but you will only grow stronger from this.
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>>719525180
>gameplay
It's shit, and the invisibility skill is useless since you can still collide with enemies that you can oneshot only because the dev doesn't know how to remove collision or at least remove the weak enemies after you reach a specific progression level.
>story
Funny
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>>719525495
Can't wait for the uncensored BRITISH JOKE in BS2
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>>719525742
tbf, i found the darkest dungeon, lisa the painful and hylics here so i didn't exactly have a reason to doubt the recommendations of anons, but as you said, this moment had to come eventually
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>>719525524
>the gameplay is bad
>webm shows cool gameplay
I don't get it
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>>719524659
I'm going to make Accesscode Talker and hit you for game.
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>>719516483
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>>719527350
So proud of Metal Sonic.
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>>719527378
Bro calm down
It was just a dream
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>getting filtered by DLC3
bros, go on without me...
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>>719526346
The whole fanbase is just a bunch of flies buzzing around a steaming pile of horse shit and lying among themselves about how it smells great, all the while trying to get normal people who don't like smelling horse shit to take a whiff.
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>>719521287
I unironically like the squiggly chicken scratch art. I'm much more put off by the overreliance on pre-made assets clashing with the dev's own stuff. Gives the games a very cheap feel at many points. Second game thankfully at least has custom made art for some of the major bosses, but even then it's very reliant on asset slop for much of the run.
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>>719528517
>the game doesn't have my scat fetish represented, so it's shit
ok frogfaggot
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>>719516681
I personally prefer BS1. I consider Black Souls 1 and 2 to be inversions of one another.
>every ending is canon v.s. cycling deeper until you finally break free of endings
>exploring a barren, wide world v.s. a life-filled, corridor course
>permanent companion summons v.s. temporary fairy tale summons
>rape to break women v.s. rape to collect women
>sin (you did bad) v.s. sen (further into the delusion
>tales v.s. theatre
>etc.
1 was overall the better experience for me, but I can understand that people would prefer 2's quality of life changes.
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>>719528661
>black souls faggot has zero reading comprehension
like clockery.
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>>719528445
What filtered you...
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>>719522001
Was the serpent god an actual outer one, or just another retarded spawn of Grimm?
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>>719528904
https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Yig
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>>719515624
I did
I'm playing bs2
>progress level is reflected on the torches on the wall
Fucking bullshit nigga, now everyone is dead
So far, im liking BS1 more, even with the unbalanced mechanics
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>>719522739
The art was charming, except the porn, that was bad. A bit better in bs2 tho
The gameplay is just average rpgmaker slop
Story was interesting
The ost was baller
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>>719525913
Lisa the painful, why are like 4 different games? The joyful?
Bruh which one do I play
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>>719516681
Babbys first "narrative driven" eroge
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>>719528969
How accurate is my assumption?
>Bill was created by the outer one of dreams, who liked crossdressing boys
>crawling one smites him for spreading faggotry (Mabel rescues him for her collection)
>Yig receives Bill's prayer to be a girl, entering Wonderland as yet another archetype of Alice
>Yig pities Bill and makes it possible for him to become pregnant, allowing him to enter the breeding program
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>>719528865
Idk, between mobs ignoring Hidden body, bosses oneshotting you and me completely forgetting about Blackwell I just don't have fun with it.
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>>719522001
Why is her neck so long?
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Which one of you wrote this? Node spoilers.
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>>719529724
The twin covenant can help you escape the unnecessary mobs. And you should try to spam Requiem more
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>>719529560
That's an fair assumption anon
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>>719529795
Because (s)he's a snake.
lower tier/less powerful niggermen struggle to maintain the illusion of their human form
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>>719529795
Alice reference
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>>719515624
There a mod or anything that can make fullscreen not look like massive dog shit?
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>>719528542
I think the fact he is able to still make a game this solid and effective without relying on a bunch of other people is pretty cool.
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>>719530891
There's a RPG Maker plugin called Fullscreen++. It doesn't come bundled with the game, usually.
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>>719529724
Ankle status: CHOPPED
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>>719516681
Steam reviews don't have much granularity last I recall, basically just yes/no shit. BS1's not that great, but you're still going to get more people saying yes than no about it.
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>>719530891
https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie
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>>719519682
>not sure why it gets glazed here so much.
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>>719529560
But
Bill is part of Node's offspring, since he is born in the B-ending, does that mean that Bill is actually female and fit for reproduction like his sisters but the Snake God makes him look like a man?
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>>719528445
>getting filtered by DLC3
Listen to the Cheshire Cat's advice. Try thinking.
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You faggots only pretend this game is good due to it having porn in it.
Take away the rape and sex scenes and literally none of you faggots would of talked about it in the first place
>broo its story is a cool twist on darksouls and alice and wonderland
It does literally nothing interesting with either of those ideas
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>>719515624
I beat the game last week. Got ending D as my first ending. Apparently that's the canon ending, so I'm just waiting for Black Souls II to drop on Steam. Everyone keeps telling me that BS II is much better than the first game, so I'm looking forward to it.
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>>719516681
The one thing I'll give BS1, is that it's very good for how short it is. It doesn't waste your time for the most part aside from one or two kind of finnicky side quests.
I really can't imagine someone who didn't like BS1 ending up liking BS2 that much more.
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I am planning to play it. I just have been too lazy about googling where to download it. I don't buy H-games on steam because it feels like 90% of the time something interests me, I read the reviews and they say "You need to download an uncensored patch"
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>>719531163
>Bill is part of Node's offspring
Not them. Not all of the characters in B are Node's children specifically. We're inbreeding with our own children, remember? Bills can make more Bills. Node's kids are hinted to be the rabbit whores (Mary and Haigha) in particular, for what it's worth.
>does that mean that Bill is actually female
No.
>and fit for reproduction
Yes. Serpent God loves mpreg, apparently.
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>>719530994
Wait, I think this might work. I haven't used this in years, so create a backup.
There's a version for BS1 and BS2.
https://mega.nz/file/AzxlzBaK#9CcvAVFJcklspf184ZcGPStacxolxqwKsRiuDuX71Kk
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>>719531234
All endings are canon.
You should get C before moving on to BS2 at bare minimum by the way.
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>>719531234
You somehow got the DLC ending first. You should really go back and do the others since all the endings are canon.
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>>719531407
How do I get ending C? I don't mind light spoilers.
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you know what, no, you fucking retard don't even get a reply.
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>>719531525
Collect all the fairytales and put it back in the library
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>>719531525
Fill the library. At worst, you'll need to cycle if you didn't revive Jeanne before the shaman in the bone zone dies. Shouldn't take too long though.
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>>719531525
Collect all the fairy tales and fill the library. All of them.
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>>719531584
>>719531603
Guess it's time to genocide the fairytale creatures then.
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>>719531525
There's a mostly spoiler-free guide in the game folder if you really need hints.
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>>719531663
All of them Anon.
Every single last one.
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>>719531234
Like other anons mentioned, you should definitely play C ending as well since it has some major plot stuff that the second game assumes you're already fully familiar with. Endings A and B aren't mandatory if you didn't already stumble upon them on your first playthrough, and mostly just act as small foreshadowing for the later endings.
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>>719531663
Check this spoiler after you fill the library in case you get stuck hotel poseidon
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>>719531667
I guess that is a big downside of steam is most people won't see that. So they have to rely on /v/tards who can't keep spoilers in their pants.
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>>719531785
Ending C doesn't hit nearly as hard unless you do the B endings first
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>>719531962
>B endings
>plural
B is just one ending, and it laughs at you and tells you to do C. You probably mean the character endings, which aren't lettered.
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God the BS1 soundtrack fucking rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YqdPGRrl1k
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>>719531759
Bad parenting leads to an emotionally stunted brat forever stuck in her edgy phase.
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>>719532027
it's been a while but I could've sworn the character endings were B
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>>719532084
It's really just semantics. Technically the touch it by yourself endings are A and B specifically, but a lot of people just lump the character endings in with B as well.
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Me and my wife dorothy (male)
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>>719516191
>sold and reviewed better than OFF
kek
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>>719531358
>Node's kids are hinted to be the rabbit whores (Mary and Haigha)
I don't think her genes are very good if one of those isn't even a Wonderland person
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>>719532282
DOROTHY, BROOOOO
LET ME TOUCH YOU
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>>719532339
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>>719516681
It's babby's first experimental game for many newcomers. And all the existing fans infatuated with it showed up in force to give a middle finger to Mastercard & co.
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>>719532320
>I don't think her genes are very good if one of those isn't even a Wonderland person
Not Mary Sue, the literal rabbit whore Mary in Lutwidge.
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>>719532084
>it's been a while but I could've sworn the character endings were B
Nope.
>>719532169
>but a lot of people just lump the character endings in with B as well.
That isn't semantics, it's people just being wrong.
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>>719532419
>2 straw men for the price of one
Impressive.
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>>719520020
I can't believe the "emotionless frigid" thing was just a fake out to gaslight the suffering porn enjoying things watching.
I fell for it
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>>719532962
Her frigidity isn't a fake out, the emotionlessness is.
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>>719532293
She just can't stop winning bros...
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>>719532962
worst girl
she canonically LOST
Riffu-sama won
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>>719532962
She doesn't care about having sex with Grimm, but she does care about him, in her own way.
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Is the next game out/translated yet?
I'm fucking dying for more content man, god I fucking love these games.
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>>719528542
Some of the characters and environments being copy pasted stock assets and some being "real" became a plot point. Particularly the stock RPGmaker maps. Nice save from dev.
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>>719533220
lol______________-_________lmao______________
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>>719533198
>She doesn't care about having sex with Grimm
On the contrary, she cares about having sex with Grimm, but for the emotional bonding it provides rather than physical pleasure.
>>719533220
2 more weeks, enjoy your maymay in DRH.
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>>719533287
I see.
Have a good evening.
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>>719532746
>That isn't semantics, it's people just being wrong.
The official walkthrough text in the game files doesn't discriminate between regular B and character-specific endings either and lumps them all together, with no mention about who you touch the fog with or even the lvl99 requirement.

【エンディング条件】
Aエンド カルマ0、ヒロイン全員を仲間にして、シンデレラを倒す。(紅ずきんは仲間にしなくても良い)
Bエンド シンデレラを倒す(上記の条件を満たしていない)
Cエンド アリスの図書室で童話を全て埋め、裏ボスを倒す。
Dエンド バフォメットの依頼を全て終わらせる。

Considering they're all just minor variations of the same thing in terms of plot and gameplay, it's not surprising people call both the solo and character-specific variations the B ending.
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Actual 1000 SEN post.

The people that make this are the kind that cannot intuit emotion without numerous and explicit statements made by characters in media.

The really sad thing is that the amount of these people are growing every day.
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>>719533405
>Sheldon Cooper-fag btfo once again
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Meeb
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>>719516681
people just want to support EMMM, it's that simple
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>>719515624
I played it and dropped it midway. It's unfappable, it's boring, it's RPGM slop, I have no idea why it became so famous
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>>719533641
and now you'll never know
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>>719533641
You'll never reach the truth
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>>719533198
It was just so jarring to first treat her like shit and as some strange emotionless autistic girl. And then see her desperately calling out Grimm's name, not the name I entered, with the most distressed face in fresh memory. Made me feel real bad that the same person had been under there all along. No wonder she is a fan favorite among mentally unstable girls who are used to pretending around others.
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apparently it's a porn game and not free...that I would actually pay money for something like this is unthinkable.

No just because it's a meme doesn't mean I'm that gullible.
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>>719533594
Thank you for this Mabel.
I lack Mabels.
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>>719533765
Huh, I have no idea why I never noticed that until now...
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>>719533864
I think most people got it for free and liked it so much they threw their money at it. Particularly igors and chinks which is pretty fucking strange since especially the russians have a culture of all games are free.
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>>719533864
>brags about not being gullible
>too autistic to realize all porn games are free
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>>719515624
Just finished all achievements and scenes, btw I just noticed they added Black Souls 2 on Steam without a date
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>The official walkthrough text in the game files doesn't discriminate between regular B and character-specific endings either and lumps them all together
The game itself does. You see B End when you hit B, you see [character name] End when you reach said character ending. I honestly don't know how people ended up confusing them, the game's perfectly clear that they're distinct endings.
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>>719534015
When they are attained essentially the same way, everyone is just going to say the B endings.
Anons do it, wikis do it, the game guide does it.
At that point, it is unfortunately semantics.
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>>719534038
I guess I'm just too autistic to notice people's emotion...
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>>719516191
more than half of the reviews are from china
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>>719534236
It's about 40% but that's still crazy.
Didn't know the game had other localizations.
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>>719534236
Unsurprising considering the Leaf fangame is Chinese.
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>>719534395
Oh yeah, I should play that one.
Is it any good?
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>>719534186
Part of the charm is that you go around autistically killing/raping people who are trying to help you, convinced they are monsters or something.
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You guys really gotta stop playing these shitty cartoon games its bad for the market
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>>719515624
I did ages ago when it was first translated. I don't want to buy porn games on my steam account, but I did consider getting it for the uncensored experience. Then I remembered the game's weakest link is the actual porn. Art style is amazing for atmosphere and expressiveness, but it's not really hot.
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>>719534147
>When they are attained essentially the same way
A and B are essentially attained the same way and you don't see people confusing them. You change from touching the fog by yourself in the A and B endings to touching it with someone else that you've dicked up to level 100 for the individual character endings. If you want to argue that that's a subtle distinction at best, then the distinction between A and B is even less so.
>Anons do it, wikis do it
I don't care how many people do it, they're still wrong from the outset.
>the game guide does it.
>A End: Karma 0, recruit all heroines, and defeat Cinderella. (You don't need to recruit Red Riding Hood.)
>B End: Defeat Cinderella (the above conditions are not met)
Black Souls is autistic enough with its endings that if the dev actually considered the character endings to just be a mere variant of the B ending, it'd actually show it in the game in the same way BS2 lumps together A, C, D, and E with the Alice variants. They're always labeled distinctly, and the way they're attained is distinct from both A and B as well. They're not, and have never been B variants, no matter how much people pretend otherwise.
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>>719534664
>A and B are essentially attained the same way
I'm shocked you of all people would claim this kek.
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what do we think of him?
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>>719534878
Best bro
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>>719534809
>I'm shocked you of all people would claim this kek.
>(the above conditions are not met)
B is literally stated to be a failed requirement version of A. They both inherently share more with each other than A or B do with the character endings.
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>>719533517
>enter her room at mid-SEN
NOT PIGS
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>>719515624
i played it before the second game even came out. you may clap
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>>719533517
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>>719520251
serpent god is the wife of one of the big 4 we hear about in winterbell. so grimm cucked him and thats probably gonna be a big point in bs3
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>>719534664
>>719534974
>A and B are essentially attained the same way
>They both inherently share more with each other than A or B do with the character endings.
Quite literally the opposite. Ending A has very specific requirements for it to trigger. B and the character endings meanwhile are usually going to be the "default" ending most people get on their first run, and the unlock requirements between them are much closer.

Autism.
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>>719528797
>baitpost every BS thread
Try being less obvious nigger
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>>719535153
*claps your cheeks*
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>>719515624
funny idea to give it achievements so I can throw it right up top on my steam profile
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>>719535303
>Ending A has very specific requirements for it to trigger.
And if you fail those requirements, you get B instead. The game is very clear about this anon, it shows you what ending you've actually gotten once you finish it. A and B are the only endings tied together in this way in BS1.
> B and the character endings meanwhile are usually going to be the "default" ending most people get on their first run
Sure, I can agree with that much, but being the endings most people are going to reach first is also completely irrelevant.
>and the unlock requirements between them are much closer.
Literally and factually incorrect. Gun to my head, I'd sooner argue A and the character endings are closer together due to requiring you to have heroines recruited, while B doesn't give a single shit about who you have, if you even have anyone besides Leaf at all. Confusing A/B and the character endings is like somehow confusing F/G in BS2, or H and the merge ending in DLC 3 just because they're options next to each other on the same menu. It's retard behavior, plain and simple.
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>>719515624
Apparently, lots of genderbent "girls" in this. No way, fag.
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>>719535653
I'd love to play CS or something and some tilted fag look at my profile just to see an achievement that says
>"Raped Little Red Riding Hood - 1.2% of players have this achievement"
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>>719535709
>Gun to my head, I'd sooner argue
probably the most accurate thing you've said in the whole thread
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>>719535732
Grimm isn't picky.
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>>719535789
>probably the most accurate thing you've said in the whole thread
Believe me, I have an almost limitless capacity to argue about shit.
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True love, not like those other girls
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>>719535747
My exact thought. If I ever wind up biting the bullet and playing ds2 it will be to have bs1/ds1 and bs2/ds2
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>>719535732
Words of wisdom from our protagonist.
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>>719535353
Me on the left
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>>719516681
because there's no such thing as a 6/10 rating on steam, it's either "recommended" or "not recommended" and a niche game like this isn't going to stack a lot of negative reviews
Also, many of those reviewers probably already pirated the game and played through it once anyway. So the pool of reviewers selects for people who already liked the game beforehand
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>>719518280
>posted my artwork before I could post it
Thanks for the catch anon, I appreciate it.
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>>719515624
Me
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>>719532962
I know it says a blade but I did have a little chuckle at the mental image of Grimm starting to hack his own arm off with an anchor, then Red's realisation he was holding onto an anchor then whole time.
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>>719534878
A real human bean, and a real human.
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>>719534878
He's there for me when nobody else is.
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>>719531759
She's an inhuman monster with far too much power trying to come to terms with experiencing human feelings because the Great Old Ones couldn't just leave well enough alone and stay the fuck in their jerkoff kosms, exacerbated by her family being incapable of teaching what love is and one of them explicitly making her worse to feel special
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>>719531552
Strongest Alicebro
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>>719531759
Horny.

Needs dick.
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>>719539395
That makes some sense I guess. Mabel clearly knows it's a bad idea to be caught in Grimm's dick aura and even knowing about it she still succumbs right at the end, so she could think that being a man would avoid it.
It won't work.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wuSyFllNek
Why did she react like that?
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>>719522739
pretty much my experience, except that imo the art is also dogshit. gameplay is serviceable; cant expect too much out of rpgmaker.
h scenes and rape button are lame and awkward as fuck. i physically cringed when i went to level up leaf.
good thing i didnt buy it. its a reminder to never trust the shilling on this board.
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>>719539753
I think the Girl's Photo item is supposed to show the old granny Alice mentioned in one of the memory orb flashbacks. It's why looking at it decreases SEN and grounds Grimm back to reality. I checked the wiki and the English translation of the item description seems to be a bit wrong. The translated description talks about "making such a face" but the expression 顔をする can also mean "to look like something" depending on context.

I.e.
>ああ、愛しき少女はこんな顔をしていたのだろうか。
>Ah, did (my) beloved girl look like this?
would be the correct translation.

tl;dr Cheshire tells you to fuck off because you're showing her a pic of an ugly granny.
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>>719540537
It could also just be any photo of the real Alice Liddel, which would both wake Grimm from his pursuit of his Alice du jour and freak out Cheshire, her being the real Alice's cat and all
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>>719531759
What a loaded question
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>>719515624
This series made me jerk off to tranny and furry porn. Fuck this gaynigger game
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>>719540537
check your bonus folder anon
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>>719541519
Nobody forced you to interact with the homos or the furries
Its entirely optional
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>>719541635
But I'm a fucking completionist anon. I HAVE to engage in homosexuals sex to see everything in game.
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>>719541635
Why does she think she's an angel? Is she just severely mentally ill? How do demons work in the BS universe?
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>>719532380
Bnuuy
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>>719516483
She did nothing wrong.
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>>719523372
soulless
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>>719541831
ok but why did you fap to it?
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>>719542261
It's the intended experience.
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>>719541979
>Why does she think she's an angel?
She fucking hates being a demon due to being ostracized. Milton is my first bet as to why she calls herself an angel specifically, the Nursing Graveyard is building an army of "angels" via the Ghouls and he'd be a prime fit for the "Lord" she mentions if he actually is the Paradise Lost motherfucker like the game hints he is. Hastur could also be it given his presence in the Nursing Graveyard and status as a God of Shepherds to Milton's God of Sheep, given Lingeriena's talk about being sorry for not shepherding your soul to Heaven (almost certainly the Cosmos).
>How do demons work in the BS universe?
We don't really know much about them, we've just got fuckers like Leonard, Lingeriena and Victoria to go off of. Succs seem to be able to break into gardens more or less as they please, which is a pretty rare and valuable trait in-universe, though they can still get caught like Victoria did.
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>>719541979
>Is she just severely mentally ill?
It would be easier to list the characters who arent somehow mentally ill in the games

I have no idea how they work but succubus are told many times in games to be able to travel between gardens and invade "dreams"

As for what is wrong with her:
She just hates her entire being and larps as an Angel to cope with reality
She isnt a normal succubus but instead some offset or copycat of Victoria (the real one) who instead of surviving on consuming the life force and souls of men through sex, she instead just kills the victims, gaining pleasure from it too.
She is a vegan tiger of sorts, she has to "feed" but tries to do so on her own terms, killing the patients of the hospital that cant be treated and seem to be immortal or infinite in supply is basically the way she copes about it being moral.
Afterall, she is only helping them by giving them a mercy killing.

In game the two characters, the dog and the angel are a contrast to each other. The Angle is the argument for euthanasia and the Dog is the argument for anti-euthanasia, pro treatment solutions
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>>719542491
Isn't she Victoria's sister? With the third sister being the unseen one who impaled you while you were "impaling" her?
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>>719542491
>just severely mentally ill
That only makes them more endearing.
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>>719542829
Yeah, Courtisane
EMMM drew her and apparently she will be in the next game
Im sure someone has the image of her
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>>719542829
Not them but yes. The third sister (Courtisane) is going to appear in DRH, her design was revealed for it a few years back and she's an edgy motherfucker. I don't have her picture on hand unfortunately.
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>>719543000
>>719542975
Thanks, thought so. DRH release date fucking when
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>>719542946
I agree, all the girls without some fucked up condition are boring
I love crazy, malfunctional, mistreated girls (in game)
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>>719543124
small side game things, please understand
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RDH looks like it will have such a kino atmosphere from what we've seen so far.
My personal theory is that it will be very disappointing on the gameplay end. It seems to be just the "art" part of Toro's training for BS3, with the Princess game probably being the "gameplay" part.
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>>719543150
>My personal theory is that it will be very disappointing on the gameplay end.
I'd be surprised as fuck if it wasn't disappointing on that end.
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>>719543150
>>719543192
Isn't it going to be some MSX Metal Gear type shit?
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>>719543227
i thought it was a hitman game
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>>719543150
>Princess game probably being the "gameplay" part
But I don't want the fucking princess game or fucking princess the game. Sounds like a huge waste of time. And fuck those bitches.
>>719543227
Hitman
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>>719543227
Hitman was the comparison EMMM used for the game. I just don't have much faith in him making an interesting and fun system around it.
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>>719543227
i am not sure, but from the description i read it seem like it's more similar to desu sex then metal gear
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>>719515624
The first one is mid, the second one is the GOAT
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>>719543150
I just want to see how elden ring influences BS3.
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>>719543316
No need to wait.
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What if Black Souls 3 took place during World War 1? Maybe that's the battlefield the Gods use to duke it out?
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>>719543249
>But I don't want the fucking princess game or fucking princess the game. Sounds like a huge waste of time. And fuck those bitches.
Its not going to be a game about them though, that one is bait
Think about it, who do you think is the more important figure behind them?

Its going to be Leafs game again.
With obviously Jabberwock too.

It just isnt a smart idea to advertise the game as Leaf's game because normies will flip their shit when they hear that
Like imagine if MGS2 was advertised with Snake being replaced by Raiden from the get go... if you ever played that one
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>>719543282
>moles
ew!!!!!! would not fug!!!
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>>719543282
>freckle on breast
Sexooooooooo
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>>719543473
>>719543482
The duality of man.
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>>719543392
Would be cool, but I don't think the timeline matches for it. BS2 seems to end off at the turn of the 20th century at latest, based off the car we see in G. If Prickett's monologue that mentions Lewis being near death also holds true to his real life death date, that puts the upper limit at 1898.
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>>719543414
Sure. Since it's not even in development. Things might change a lot.
>MGS2
WDYM? There is no Snake in MGS2.
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>>719543392
In Blacksouls 3™© you find yourself in between the gardens, a post apocalyptic Wonderland, Forgotten Elysium and many others.
Grimm sets out to save the world from the impending disaster foretold by Mabel in Blacksouls 2™©
He received the power to change, write and create from the defeated Grand Guignol but does not know how to utilize the power.
(You) rescue Leaf, that somehow survived the apocalypse in her jail cell.
Leaf is the only one alive that knows how to use the powers.
This is the start of an dating adventure with Leaf where you two must cooperate and battle against enemies in different gardens learning along the way.
You take Leaf on dates to increase your relationship level and get Leaf to open up about the powers.
Through out the game, Leaf and Grimm will grow closer together and together you defeat the powers that want war, ending the threat of waking up Aza-chan.
Sleep rape scene with Aza-chan included
A major plotpoint of the game will include a choice to forgive Leaf or to betray her, leading to good and bad endings respectively.
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>>719532293
OFF rerelease was just a lazy cash grab even further muddied by Toby Fox.
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>>719543473
There's a womb in there...
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>>719516681
>It was always just the 6/10 game
So like every Dark Souls game.
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>>719543150
>it will be very disappointing on the gameplay end.
This is a game about Red, it's already disappointing.
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>>719543764
I don't understand people who take waifu wars to this level.
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>>719543810
Well you cant really enjoy a storygame if you dont like the characters?
NTA
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>>719537757
Why do these threads have so many drawfags?
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>>719543568
Wouldn't the cutoff be 1884 due to prince Leopold being alive? Unless we assume his irl death date was the date he was abducted
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>>719543861
That's the point. If you're so fixated on what's supposed to be a cheeky Internet waifu war between Red and Leaf to the point where you start to actively dislike when the game brings up your least favorite you're too far gone.
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>>719543810
>waifu wars
Nah, she is just a disgusting, boring character. Literally any BS 2 girl is better than Red.
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Why is the Knight the most prominent class?
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>>719543918
No, but rather that you dont care about the character (Red) or anything that has anything to do with it. Youd rather skip the romance substory of that character and move on.
Black Souls has many characters to choose from but the writers pet is not really interesting and thats what we are going to get. Its not about Leaf being better (she is) but rather just Red being a boring character.
Black Souls has a huge harem of characters to like but it fixates on so little, which is probably some classic problem in literature where some side characters start outshining the main characters and they have to be killed off/deal with.
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>>719544049
Canon, official art (almost) always depicts Grimm as a knight, with the exception of a couple with the hunter design.
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>Wouldn't the cutoff be 1884 due to prince Leopold being alive? Unless we assume his irl death date was the date he was abducted
Nope, we've got articles surrounding Leopold (or at least his role as Jack in the garden) dating back to 1888 at least. Jack and Edith's souls are also in the Chaos Dungeon, so it's fairly safe to assume that they're already dead out in reality given the nature of Shatranj as a place for Mabel to store souls for future revival.
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>>719543914
Because people genuinely like the series. The amount of fanart and fangame inspired by this game speaks for itself.
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>>719544239
Ok, good to know. are there any documents that show a date after that? We could get a ballpark time period going at least.
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>>719544119
Isn't that part of Reds character? rather than being a member of the harem designed to be appealing, she's Mary Sue's first broken toy. She's a dead fish who doesn't try to suck up to Grimm because she's reacting to the reality of the situation, rather than the story. Similar with Miranda, who also has her own agency outside of being a heroine and has a lot of character overlap with Red.
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>>719545287
>Similar with Miranda, who also has her own agency outside of being a heroine and has a lot of character overlap with Red.
Theres a lot of characters that have their own agency in game so i dont see how that is a major bonus to her
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>>719543667
I'm betting that the hub area will be Grimm's own garden and there'll be a resurrecting past waifus to live there by collecting their storybooks mechanic.
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>>719543914
You are missing out on a good thing because you're not open-minded enough.
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>black bars everywhere
The authentic Black Souls thread experience
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>>719546263
I'm glad THAT one faggot isn't here this time
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>>719535353
my rif wife....
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I no longer care about alice.
I am going to save red.
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For me there is only Lorina.
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>>719547431
Brat
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>>719547065
But anon, isn't she your dear Alice?
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>>719548038
DELETE
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This thread still has a lots of potential
BUMP
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What does Leaf taste like?
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>>719544689
>are there any documents that show a date after that?
Not that I can immediately think of. You have one of Alice's kids talking to her before shit hits the fan in one of the memory flames but that's hardly concrete. Her oldest was born in 1882 IRL so at the very least I doubt a 6 year old would be talking to his mother about her moderating her nightly observations and making her tea if we take 1888 as the earliest possible opportunity for shit to happen to her, I'd personally expect to hear something like that coming from a teenager at the earliest.
I think if you're looking for a smoking gun, then trying to match that car to a real life one might be the best place to start, at least assuming that EMMM actually used a real car for direct reference there. "Modern" cars only came into existence in 1886 and only really came into more widespread production some years after that. Before the 1908 Model T rolled around and actually made cars popular among the masses, I think that 1896 is probably the earliest example of a relatively big uptick in production judging by what I can find online, with the following years also having a lot more shit produced than the years prior. I'm not an /o/ fag though so take what I say with a grain of salt. For what it's worth, there's a lot of cars in the mid-late 1890's that share some looks with the one we see in G, but I haven't been able to make a complete match with anything yet, so it could be that the car is just some EMMM original he made from mishmashing other cars from the era together.
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>>719549473
Limoncello and putrid flesh
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>>719549473
tastes like green
way too green
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>>719516191
This is kinda really motivating in a way that a 4/10 game can get this kind of success. The sequel is maybe a 6/10 at best too.
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>>719544119
>Red being a boring character
HOLY BASED
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I still don't understand why that Red got confused for saying this for some reason?
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>>719515624
play the better game
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>>719540537
No no, it's this one.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Liddell#/media/File:Alice_Liddell_-_Beggar_Girl.jpg
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>>719550313
Forgot to spoiler
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>>719550313
Red doesn't remember her time before being turned into Red, the implication we get between this and a boss in RHW is that she was a college girl originally.
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>>719540537
fun theory anon, but you literally have what the actual photo looks like
it's Alice naked
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>>719549473
salty milk and coins
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>>719550562
>>719550562
Yeah im pretty sure that image is in the secret folder
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>>719549473
Sauerkraut
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Guys, I'm making a video about Black Souls, what should I talk about?
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>final boss folds to black slash spam
Amazing gameplay, lads.
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>>719550760
Alice
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>>719550803
>>final boss
Does he know?
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>>719550760
my ass
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>>719550803
Final boss folds to damn near anything, it's a victory lap. If you wanted a more challenging fight, go try to rape Unis on Difficulty 9 when you first meet her.
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>>719550760
You should just summarize the plot in the slowest way possible with an annoying voice and spend 20 minutes arguing that the game is above its porn status or something.
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>>719550446
I should replay RHW again soon... I don't remember a single thing on that game anymore except you-know-what.
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>>719550760
The Thirty Years War.
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>>719550760
How LGBTQIA+ friendly of a game it is, with plenty of trans and genderfluid folx, homosexuals, bisexuals, lesbians... Though its inclusion of people of color is still a bit lacking.
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>>719550887
I just don't see where people are memeing about compelx strategic gameplay. The bosses that have "rules" are super easily to kill with basic shit. Just equip all the shit to give yourself 5 turns more and you win easily.
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I think I would have enjoyed the games more with a more transparent story with the eldritch god harem instead of dealing 95% of the time with generic anime girls that drops hints here and there.
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>>719551048
The fact you knew about Black Slash in the first place tells me you just took advice from others before even reaching endgame to get the most broken build going
Ofcourse its not hard when you do that, almost no game is
If you actually want challenge in the game you are pretty much forced to do SL1 runs
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>>719551145
This game is not for people who don't like anime girls.
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>>719551185
This is not what I said at all but nice typical low IQ response.
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>>719531759
>neglected by her mother, the imposter Baphomet, who regularly brought new husbands home
>desperate for love
>Jabberwock becomes her surrogate mother, and corrupts her reading/writing hobby by hooking her on tales of tragedy
>Mary Sue merges her favourite authors together as Grimm and plays with him in her garden
>one of her mother's exes, the crawling one, steals him away
>manages to steal him back, then joins them in Black Souls 1 as Leaf
>this adventure is the ultimate expression of love to the one she loves most
>due to her upbringing, this adventure includes constant betrayal, death, suffering, and other tragic events

You could easily fix Leaf with a writer's workshop, exposing her to happier tales, or simply telling her you genuinely love her . The last one was proven by Grimm in Ending C before falling to Leaf's tragedy logic imposed on him and the garden.
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>>719550760
>reacting to BS videos on bilibili and VK
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>>719546626
Not MY Red
>>719549598
MY Red (the real one)
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>>719551235
Yes it is. Anyone who uses the phrase "generic anime girl" inherently does not like anime girls. It is a telltale sign.
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>>719551048
>I just don't see where people are memeing about compelx strategic gameplay.
I usually tell people that if you're halfway decent at JRPGs BS2 isn't much harder to break than BS1 is. Unfortunately most people are shit at RPGs in general. Endgame BS2 is even more of a cheesefest than BS1 was. DLC 3 tries to be complex and strategic and counter some of the dominant strategies from earlier in the game, but you can still unga your way through most of the fights with minimal adjustments.
Free item usage and multiplicative stat mods were mistakes. Having access to a half dozen bonus actions at any given time was also a mistake.
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>>719551048
>Just equip all the shit to give yourself 5 turns more and you win easily.
Congratulations for having more than 2 brain cells. I've seen my friends get filtered by it, one of them being a SMT fan.
If you don't know how to abuse the combat system, the game's hard. If you do, the game's easy. DLC3 is balanced around you knowing how to abuse it. And so is SL1 run for replay purposes, heavily recommended.
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I fucking hate the rook.
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>>719550760
hi Sseth
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>>719551145
That hilarious part is that I'd argue BS is more transparent than the actual Fromsoft souls games.
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>>719551048
>I just don't se-
AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEE
PLESASE NO GRIMMM SAMAAAA
I WAS ONLY PRETENDING
I WAS A FOOLISH WOMAN WHO CANT TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG
AAAAAAH AAAAAAH I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG
I WILL NEVER AGAIN GO ON ¤CHAN AND MAKE POSTS SHITTING ON YOU
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>>719551285
Nope. This is a chunk of all the games I currently have installed and am playing. Of course all in japanese. I don't even masturbate to 3D at all any longer. But keep living in your confirmation biased world if it makes you feel safe.
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>>719550760
My wife Node
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>>719550760
Talk about how rape is bad on your opening video segment
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>>719515624
Which one is better?
Fan translation or official one?
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>>719551721
this but the opposite
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>>719551797
official one ofcourse? Why would the AI translated "fan" one be better?
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>>719550970
>I should replay RHW again soon...
You really aren't missing out on much. You get to see some of the concepts that both BS1 and 2 expand upon and a couple of tidbits of lore, and practically nothing else. At least it's short.
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>>719550970
I just played it, and man he really improved a lot since this game.
Luckily it's only 2 hours or so to get through, but after the snow area, the game just devolves into nothingness until the very end.
It sucks because playing RHW first would theoretically make the BS1 experience cooler, but I can't imagine anyone playing RHW first and liking it enough to even bother with BS1.
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>>719551656
what makes the girls in those not "generic"
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>>719551797
it's the same shit, the official one is just slightly altered
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>>719551797
You're in the one place where if the official translation is even *slightly* censored, there will be one or two anons around to throw the largest melty in existence.
So you're fine.
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>>719550970
The most you'll get out of it is "oh that's what that enemy/description/location was, huh." You'll get a lot of them, but that's about it.
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>>719552216
Having some genuine interaction with them and more than 20 lines of dialog before they jump on your dick helps to make them feel somewhat distinguished.
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>>719551928
I can say either certainty RHW is something that you don't need going into BS1, it can be a little curiosity if you're waiting for BS2 steam release, but there's no requirement to have played it.
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>>719552437
More words = less generic?
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>>719552575
Oh yeah it's not necessary at all. But it makes her BS1 content a hell of a lot cooler.
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>>719552273
Does "altered" mean "censored" or "more faithful"?
>>719552362
>You're in the one place where if the official translation is even *slightly* censored, there will be one or two anons around to throw the largest melty in existence.
Of course I know that anon.
It's me.
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>>719552780
No, more like more words = more opportunities to show depth in your character.

In Black Souls not only does every girl have barely any dialog, they also don't say anything of value during the little screentime they have. It's just a very basic character introduction like you would find in the first 3 pages of a doujin manga and then you have some sex and that's it for that character. Then later you find out you fucked an Eldritch god. But that's like talking with a middle schooler and him describing his plot ideas like "then the ship comes and everyone dies". I'm not interested in a static description of events. I want to be presented with an actual story that engages me fully in those events. With characters that are given an opportunity to shine and fully present themselves.
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>>719553165
>It's just a very basic character introduction like you would find in the first 3 pages of a doujin manga and then you have some sex and that's it for that character
Dunno what to tell you anon, this was not my experience. Maybe you just didn't like the characters.
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>>719550760
The many benefits of pocket-sized women.
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>>719553101
You should play both so you can inform us of the differences.
Or you can learn moonrunes... but who are we kidding.
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>>719553252
It's ok, I don't much care for trying to insist on imaginary objective qualities. Everyone sees what they want to see and that's a good thing. I just hope you see my point even if you disagree. That alone makes me happy on a place like this.
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>>719553101
As far as I can tell, some things were just reworded/grammar shifted slightly.
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>>719515624
I hope DRH removes the skill cooldown on Andor Sword's aura blade. That was such a massive nerf to it in BS2, especially since you could rack up so many extra actions from other sources.
Or make the basic attack include magjc scaling. I just need my weaponfu to be good
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>>719553371
>I just hope you see my point even if you disagree
I'm sorry but I don't, because what you say happens in the game simply doesn't happen. Also generic doesn't mean "lacks content", it means "there are many of it, it is a common mold".
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>>719553165
>No, more like more words = more opportunities to show depth in your character.
get back to writing The Winds of Winter you fat fuck
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>>719553307
I am learning moonrunes, just not good enough to play it fluently right now.
And no, not gonna play it twice lol
>>719553393
As long as nothing got removed, censored or sanitized, I'm okay with it.
I also wanted to support the creator of the game.
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>>719553165
>It's just a very basic character introduction like you would find in the first 3 pages of a doujin manga and then you have some sex and that's it for that character.
While I'd argue about that being it for every character, I agree that it applies to most of them. I give BS a bit of a pass since BS1 is canonically written in-universe by a hack, and BS2's covenants and A plot are literally only there to keep you stuck and get you to fuck and move along the B plot of the game. I think that the characters that actually matter in BS2 show quite a bit more depth than your average covenant girl, though I don't think it excuses the relative lack of intimate events for most of the girls either. We needed more bullshit like Prickett's dating shit, basically, not just one-off events.
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>>719553486
It's ok, I finished both games and gave them a fair chance and just didn't really enjoy them and I didn't see what people liked about them so I'm not going to insist on being understood.
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>>719553629
Then support the translation he released the game with lol.
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>>719553736
>Then support the translation he released the game with lol.
This is why I asked: I never support games that officially released with censored or cut content.
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>>719553629
>As long as nothing got removed, censored or sanitized, I'm okay with it.
You have less characters available for your name compared to the old version, but otherwise BS1's Steam version is just a somewhat brushed up version of rare_cats's old BS1 TL, and that TL was rough in more than one spot.
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>>719554026
Alright, thanks!
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>>719554097
Really, the worst thing about the Steam release is that fucking Lolita font. It's a funny joke for a minute and then you want to get it the fuck out of your game. Thankfully you can remove it, but it slightly fucks up the font size and kerning.
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>>719553629
>just not good enough to play it fluently right now
You never will be with this attitude.
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>>719551824
>talk through the plot like a standard RPG
>but hit the tape option every time it comes up without comment
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What's with the random as fuck game of thrones reference in DLC3?
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>>719553629
>I am learning moonrunes, just not good enough to play it fluently right now.
Like cockwork
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>>719554612
I don't GoT, what's the reference?
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>>719554649
The winter region is just Winterfell, the castle is named Winterbell or some shit like that and every character has the motivation to get the crown like in GoT.
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>>719554530
>>719554638
I can play a game in japanese to get better at it, with time and effort, taking notes and adding to my anki reps.
But, for this game I want to also enjoy it, playing relaxed, without worrying about kanjis and grammar.
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>>719554768
>The winter region is just Winterfell
I assume you haven't played DS2.
>and every character has the motivation to get the crown like in GoT.
Would you just pass up reality warping powers?
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>>719554971
It's okay anon the little girl rape game isn't pozzed I promise.
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>>719554983
Yeah sure, Winterfell and Winterbell is a total coincidence in the game that plagiarized every single character, item and region.
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>>719551797
FanTL/DLSite IS the official one, but not exactly the steamTL/Uncensored official
Dev was given ownership of the FanTL which he then placed on DLsite officially, then OtakuPlan (steampublisher) went over the FanTL and fixed some things like some random Dark Soles reference where it wasnt there in the original JP text then made the Official Steam ver.

Think it was fluff text about a key? And some others. Its still not perfect perfect as theres a few lines that are iffy like the sinscleanser guy saying something about being lost in the forest that I forget what it meant in jp something like his heart is lost idunno or he's unsure of himself.
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I think the game title "black souls" did a lot of heavy lifting for this game. I bet if it had a completely dark souls unrelated name it wouldn't even be half as popular.
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>>719555108
Well to start with Winterbell is actually Ulthar, from the Lovecraft mythos. Secondly, the namesake likely refers to the Winterbell Hellebore flower, which in flower faggotry the Hellebore plant has connotations of hope, new beginnings, and has some mythological associations with madness as well last I checked.
You should try playing some of the games BS spends so much time ripping off, by the way.
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>>719555670
Maybe I will when the dev can write "Madness" correctly, or any english sentence at all that sounds organic. Otherwise I don't require the haphazard interpretation of a low IQ individual.
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>>719555823
>or any english sentence at all that sounds organic
Go read Alice in Wonderland.
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>>719555593
Nah, it originally came out well before elden ring really blew up dark souls searches.
Even back then it sold quite well for DLsite and gained notoriety.
I still remember it being constantly top DL on pirate sites too, again well before people even cared about Dark Souls itself.
You can say Dark Souls did heavy lifting for the entirety of the game since well, it is Demon's souls

Of course some retards current day might play it just on name alone and they're probably the ones not patching the game and sperging out about the game on forums. But thats about it.
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>>719555880
After the dev.
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Lmao nice ESL babble, faggots. This game is such a joke.
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>>719555975
based illiterate
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>>719529297
>why are like 4 different games?
3 games, lisa the first --> lisa the painful --> lisa the joyful
>Bruh which one do I play
painful --> joyful, play lisa the first after if you want but it's not too important
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>>719556040
Yes or no motherfucker?
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>>719556040
kino
ludo
sovl
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>>719556057
Post the quote from Alice where madness is written "Madnes". I will wait.
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>>719556040
Translation
Just bee you'reself.
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>>719556141
(A) Things that are equal to the same are equal to each other.
(B) The two sides of this Triangle are things that are equal to the same.
(Z) The two sides of this Triangle are equal to each other.
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>>>>>he thinks SEN is SENDAM
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>>719556040
That's Wonderland for you
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>>719515624
I hope BS2 is better. I expected something like Rance VI but it's not Rance. There should be a reason why BS threads filled with "spoilers" because so far there was nothing to spoil in the BS1.
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>>719556040
`'Tis so,' said the Duchess: `and the moral of that is--"Oh, 'tis love, 'tis love, that makes the world go round!"'

`Somebody said,' Alice whispered, `that it's done by everybody minding their own business!'

`Ah, well! It means much the same thing,' said the Duchess, digging her sharp little chin into Alice's shoulder as she added, `and the moral of that is--"Take care of the sense, and the sounds will take care of themselves."'

`How fond she is of finding morals in things!' Alice thought to herself.

`I dare say you're wondering why I don't put my arm round your waist,' the Duchess said after a pause: `the reason is, that I'm doubtful about the temper of your flamingo. Shall I try the experiment?'

`He might bite,' Alice cautiously replied, not feeling at all anxious to have the experiment tried.

`Very true,' said the Duchess: `flamingoes and mustard both bite. And the moral of that is--"Birds of a feather flock together."'

`Only mustard isn't a bird,' Alice remarked.

`Right, as usual,' said the Duchess: `what a clear way you have of putting things!'

`It's a mineral, I think,' said Alice.

`Of course it is,' said the Duchess, who seemed ready to agree to everything that Alice said; `there's a large mustard-mine near here. And the moral of that is--"The more there is of mine, the less there is of yours."'

`Oh, I know!' exclaimed Alice, who had not attended to this last remark, `it's a vegetable. It doesn't look like one, but it is.'

`I quite agree with you,' said the Duchess; `and the moral of that is--"Be what you would seem to be"--or if you'd like it put more simply--"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."'
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>>719556358
You should become a priest. They love people that dick suck the bible so hard they will try to force all the retardation to sound logical. They especially like when people can explain how it's christian to rape little kids so a lot of similarities to Black Souls.
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>>719556542
TLDR
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>>719531358
Serpent God is the one that gives birth to more Bills not Bill himself
Bill says so when he talks about Serpent God
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>>719556490
And it's hot. As a matter of fact starting the third game, every character should be a trap. Even Red Hood, even Poro and even Leaf.
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>>719556531
Did you get ending C?
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>>719556665
Shut the fuck up, Andersen.
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>>719531358
>>719532320
>Node's kids are hinted to be the rabbit whores (Mary and Haigha)
No? It's Unicorn and Lion that are Node's brats
It's like you didn't fucking finish End H or something

Unis saw you and her mom fucking and knew she will have to fuck her dad eventually thats why she became a femcel
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>>719556531
BS1's important plot elements are almost entirely contained within C and D, and the game just fucking ends once you get them. BS2 picks up from there, but it'll probably take you a while to see how shit fits together or why BS1 was considered required reading for BS2.
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>>719556542
Maybe would have a point if that dialog used punctuation like your examples make extremely heavy use of.
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>>719556626
Based illiterate
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>>719556621
Oh shit sorry bro you wanted to be the one to explain it didnt you?
Should I have said "what does sendam mean?" instead?
That way you can loredump clarify SEN?
Were you the guy that wrote the loredump and sources image a few years ago?
My bad dude.
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>>719523175
change "don't really like" to "fucking love that shit"
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>>719556741
>Unis saw you and her mom fucking and knew she will have to fuck her dad eventually thats why she became a femcel
No? Unis walked in on her parents fucking as a kid, way before you were even in the picture.
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>>719524353
>fairies
>unique
Did we really play the same fucking game?
They're just fucking hair swaps
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>>719556665
I loved that bit of narration in one of Bill's scenes.
>Wait a minute, wouldn't it be super hot if Alice was also actually a crossdressing boy? Haha.
>Oh no, I must immediately discard these blasphemous thoughts!
Paraphrased.
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>>719556890
Check the reply chain. Anon's talking about a slop CG mod.
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>>719556741
>Rabbit whore is not the mother of the rabbit whores
You see more of those rabbit whores in Winterbell too im 99% sure
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>>719531278
yeah, this. i don't get the 'suffer through BS1' mindset. if you don't like BS1, you're not going to like BS2.
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>>719556782
I hope you realize that sen is both in the original and the translation but Madnes is only in the original so your little meltdown doesn't even make sense and tries to make use of false equivalency.
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>>719556890
Read the reply chain retard
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>>719556750
>Maybe would have a point if that dialog used punctuation like your examples make extremely heavy use of.
>"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."'
A period is punctuation, I suppose.
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>>719556961
You do.
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>>719556863
>No? Unis walked in on her parents fucking as a kid,
You really are retarded huh?
YOU ARE UNIS's DAD
NODE IS HER MOM

YOU'RE FORGETTING ABOUT THE 64 PREVIOUS TIMELOOPS YOU DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR
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>>719557132
OK Dodo, I believe you.
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Universally that person’s acumen is esteemed very little perceptive concerning whatsoever matters are being held as most profitably by mortals with sapience endowed to be studied who is ignorant of that which the most in doctrine erudite and certainly by reason of that in them high mind’s ornament deserving of veneration constantly maintain when by general consent they affirm that other circumstances being equal by no exterior splendour is the prosperity of a nation more efficaciously asserted than by the measure of how far forward may have progressed the tribute of its solicitude for that proliferent continuance which of evils the original if it be absent when fortunately present constitutes the certain sign of omnipollent nature’s incorrupted benefaction. For who is there who anything of some significance has apprehended but is conscious that that exterior splendour may be the surface of a downwardtending lutulent reality or on the contrary anyone so is there unilluminated as not to perceive that as no nature’s boon can contend against the bounty of increase so it behoves every most just citizen to become the exhortator and admonisher of his semblables and to tremble lest what had in the past been by the nation excellently commenced might be in the future not with similar excellence accomplished if an inverecund habit shall have gradually traduced the honourable by ancestors transmitted customs to that thither of profundity that that one was audacious excessively who would have the hardihood to rise affirming that no more odious offence can for anyone be than to oblivious neglect to consign that evangel simultaneously command and promise which on all mortals with prophecy of abundance or with diminution’s menace that exalted of reiteratedly procreating function ever irrevocably enjoined?
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>>719557205
I had a tough time filling out the library.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT MYRAPHILIA OR WHATEVER SHES CALLED
AAAAAAAA
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>>719557358
Become stronger...
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>>719557132
Dodo...
Not only you are in the past, but the lion and the unicorn are basically GG's puppets, kill one and then join the other and see what happens.
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>>719557205
Surely no one will have intercourse with this baby that was just born, especially not the one she sees as a father.
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>>719557343
Why did you do it? Are you retarded?
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>>719557358
Always have the anti-crit spell up if you're just unga'ing it.
Or just blow her the fuck up with spells at 60% HP.
You can put her to sleep too I think.
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>>719557132
I'm not even going to try to explain to you how far off you are. A dodo is all you are worth.
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>>719557480
>Surely no one will have intercourse with this baby that was just born, especially not the one she sees as a father.
That person is me
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>>719557358
Use soul magic if you're really that clueless.
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>>719557493
Closure.
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>>719515624
I 100% it yesterday, took about 19 hours because I chose to fuck Elizabeth so I bricked ending A, it was aight
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>>719557006
>if you don't like BS1, you're not going to like BS2.
Imo they do feel noticeably different to play. BS1 heavily encourages you to level up your party instead of the protagonist, so battles feel more sluggish due to the time it takes to summon characters for each fight. BS2 plays faster due to being a solo romp, and outside gameplay also feels a lot more tonally consistent from the word go with a better hook and interesting areas, whereas the first game starts out by throwing you into a forest filled with random premade assets and the silly Souls homages are extremely obvious. Even H-scene writing is improved and helps flesh out the protagonist better. BS2 is also much more difficult overall.

If there's one consistent negative thing about both games it's the questionable balancing, and fights often devolving into one side or the other getting curbstombed on the first turn of combat depending on which level you happen to trigger the encounter.
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I got to floor 900 in the chaos dungeon before I got Black Slash. I think this shit singlehandedly extended my game time by 5-6 hours.
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>>719557463
That and the fact that you've never actually made children with them, you don't even see any extras of them in Winterbell like your actual children you've been inbreeding with for god knows how long. Anon fucked his lore up in damn near every way he could.
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There sure have been a lot of Dodos around here lately...
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>>719518025
>Leaf board
>Leaf website
That explains why they've gone to shit.
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>>719557724
>I chose to fuck Elizabeth so I bricked ending A
kek Based & Same.
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>>719557872
I say we make a school for them.
>>719557863
>chaos dungeon exclusive skills
Yeah, that sounds about right. I've only seen Chaos Blast legitimately about three times since BS2's MTL dropped.
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>>719557597
Haha, time to go for completionist run and get all the scenes
>"Daddy, you'll go back to normal after this, right..?"
>later get an option to steal her candy
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>>719558382
For me, it's pic related.
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>>719557863
I was at floor 3500 or so before getting Mary's Wand. Still no Chaos Blast or Black Slash
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>>719558443
Where was this scene again? Also this is clearly about Goose right?
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Kinda sucks that all helmets and armor are kind of pointless.
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>>719558548
>Where was this scene again?
0 SEN service scene I believe.
>Goose
Yes.
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>>719558548
Low SEN interaction, I think. Goose is one possibility, but it could also refer to loops, implying you raped / killed her in a previous one.
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>>719558382
I can't believe that fucking RABBIT WHORE made me to do it TWICE.
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>>719557343
>Kill her
>Miss Pinochio
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>>719556626
>>719556750
>the most literate zoomers minasan
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>>719556626
It's a book literally made for a little girl.
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>>719559043
more like a book for people who like little girls
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Punctuation is bloat
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Cheshire cat was done dirty for just being a guard dog for a mildly important character instead of being an actually important character herself.
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>>719558623
>Kinda sucks that all helmets and armor are kind of pointless.
Igor's Mask will do you fine until you get the Mystery, but yeah outside of those most picks are pretty shit. Once you find the Armor of the Sun there's really nothing else you'll slap on over it unless you want to meme build or are still feeling your way around the game. I remember getting quite a bit of use out of the Angel's Raiment early on.
>>719558737
It's gotta be Goose. Her thing was stealing from you in BS1, and you can return the favor by stealing her shit in BS2. It's not just the BS2 version that has her calling you a traitor either, BS1 also has it.
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>>719559301
bushido armor and helmet from dlc1 give fuckton of crit
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>>719559420
Crit is useless at that point.
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>>719559301
>Once you find the Armor of the Sun there's really nothing else
>not bunny ears and whore dress
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>>719559578
I am not beyond help.
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>>719559651
I'm beyond. Well not really. Had to switch gear towards ending of DLC3. Some fights got me good. Wasn't aware about special buff lill "Angel" gives you too.
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>>719559420
lmao royal tea
More seriously, crit is nice but virtually never necessary. Even then, you have other ways to get it with things like King's Order and Self-Mutilation. If you're feeling really spicy, a Ring of Sin or two will do wonders for your base crit rate at the expense of your core stats which isn't as big of a loss as you might think due to multiplicative stat mods if you don't mind a bit more buffing.
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Alice
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The angel raiment gives you 1.5x HP tho
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>>719560647
Yes, and?
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>>719560647
Really helpful in a game where nearly everything instant kills you with percentage based attacks.
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>>719558830
Her name is Node and she's not a whore. She's not like your mom.
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>>719560785
>Really helpful in a game where nearly everything instant kills you with percentage based attacks.
That's mostly just DLC 3 enemies. For base game content HP is a great defensive stat, and while it falls off later due to %HP bullshit it's still better overall than trying to invest in Def and MDef. Node's covenant with the Raiment gives you a massive amount of bulk early on.
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>>719560961
Game only starts at DLC2 though. Before that the game is completely braindead.
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>>719550760
The importance of protecting endangered species.
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>>719561046
>Before that the game is completely braindead.
You're not exactly wrong although DLC 3 isn't really that hard, but it still accounts for like 90% of BS2's total game time.
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>>719557463
Different anon.
I tried killing one or both, and it basically skipped parts of the quest or the entire thing.
Mabel remarks that they were just obstacles meant to stand in your way, and the GG (no re) even has unused demonbeast versions of them on strings.
It felt meta that I spent IRL hours playing with them, which in turn was playing along with GG's plan.
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>>719561239
DLC3 is not that long. Probably you meant to write 90% of the difficulty.
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How were you meant to kill the zombies in the hospital? I just set the twin covenant and just escaped every single fight that was not mandatory in the DLC.
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>>719560647
Yeah, it's great for survivability while your stats are low. Unfortunately DLC enemies just deal %health damage.
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Also how were you meant to fight the white horses that instant killed you before you even had a chance of doing anything?
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>>719550760
How wishes are akin to running away from reality. In the end, everyone only achieved their true desires by making them true in reality.
>Lewis loved inventing, writing, and the potential of children. He took a wrong turn when he became fixated on Alice.
>Dorothy lost her entire family to the hurricane. She reinvented herself as a fantastic witch with imaginary apprentices and a loved one.
>outer ones are arrogant beings from the realm of dreams, yet are only content when understanding the real humans plus their desires/emotions
>above all else, Leaf only wanted someone to love her; but instead of confessing to Grimm (which works in both 1 & 2), she creates intricate stories of her fantasies
>
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>>719561623
dispell + divine beast lightning, it's annoying af tho
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>>719561623
oh and if you just pulled the lever and getting fucked by them succubus slut probably set your game difficulty to 9, go back to library and fix it
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I wish BS2 had an inspect ability a la SMT and other RPGs that let you check out enemy moves, elements and stats. Maybe a bestiary. Or at the very least have the combat log stay on screen for more than one attosecond?
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>>719561346
>DLC3 is not that long.
DLC 3 took me about 4 hours to finish in a language I couldn't read, out of a roughly 40 hour game. A more normal first clear time would probably be about 2-3 hours as long as you can actually read what shit does and don't try to fuck around too much with events.
>>719561623
Dispel their immortality. If they're evading like the fucks in the Nurse Call fight do, use Absolute Precision first.
>>719561687
Guardian Bunker my beloved. Nothing else you can really do besides tank the initial barrage and try not to get stunned, then unload on them after.
>>719561927
>Or at the very least have the combat log stay on screen for more than one attosecond?
EMMM understands that combat logs slowing down gameplay is ass. The less time you're waiting on shit to play out, the better.
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>>719561687
You just use counters + ring that prevents crit damage. Works for another guy too.
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I've been trying to get ending C like you anons told me earlier in the thread and I'm one book away from doing that. But I for the life of me can't find it. Can someone help me out?
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>>719561927
I wish BS2 had quality of life features. I will never replay the game for the simple fact it's a horrible pain in the ass to navigate the menus. My biggest wish is that weapon skills are in their own separate area instead of mixing with your regular skills.
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>>719562040
Forest of Abandoned -> Fort Ivern -> Jacob's Mine -> Elixir -> Secret Garden should be their entire quest line. Alternatively just kill both and go to the garden, I think it'll still show up after you trigger the mimic fight.
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>>719562012
>EMMM understands that combat logs slowing down gameplay is ass. The less time you're waiting on shit to play out, the better
Best of both worlds would be to give the player an option to adjust the speed to their liking. And you can already speed up combat with CTRL anyways if you don't want to bother with numbers.

>>719562057
>quality of life features.
For me, the first thing would be to add a hotkey for Hidden Body spell.
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>>719561623
Greatsword of giants.
>move down
>move down
>move down
This is how you can beat entire graveyard. On any difficulty. Final boss excluded.
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>>719562289
>Hidden Body spell
Also just make it a on - off skill. SP is a literal non issue start to finish but absolutely trivial at the moment you get the spell.
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>>719562156
Oh fuck. I killed the Tortoise guy in the mine since he tricked me into walking into a pit trap. Will the Hare not spawn now?
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>>719562343
>move
It's mow. But who am I to argue with my brain?
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>>719562431
Nevermind. Got him. Ending C, here I come.
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>>719562289
>And you can already speed up combat with CTRL anyways if you don't want to bother with numbers.
I constantly hold Ctrl+Z and still wish I could skip past weapon animations. I can only see Hans shitting out a million bullets 6+ times per turn before I get bored of it.
>>719562403
It really should just be an on-off thing, or at least automatically refreshing whenever the current duration runs out.
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So, any cons on using dream soul items?
I don't even know where I got them but they level you up by 5 each zamn
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>>719562871
No, though you might be better off selling them for souls early on.
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>>719562871
No. I think 100% of players thought there was something fishy about the level up smoke from the caterpillar as well. It's just levels are trivial in this game.
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>>719562979
Caterpillar?
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>>719562979
>I think 100% of players thought there was something fishy about the level up smoke from the caterpillar as well.
Your Yoel of Londor reference, bro?
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Reminder to correct and rape Unis until she learns her place as your loving wife
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>>719563169
I sided with Raiden so she will remain a splatter on the wall.
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So now all my covenant girls are dead except the monster ones, did I fuck up or what
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>>719563556
working as intended
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>>719563556
Nah, just keep playing. The game is super easy even with the covenants and you will get your waifus back in your second playtrough.
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NODE IS MY BREEDING FUCKTOY!!!! 111
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>>719563556
Yesn't. You don't really lose out on anything important if they die but their covenant effects are nice. You should probably try to figure out what happened.
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>>719563546
What a waste of a good ryonahole
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>>719563556
just a british joke man, relax :^)



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