So what's your opinion on the state of fan-content nearly two years on?
>>719516543why did the switch version of doom not have the map creator?
>>719516653Oh, whoops. Yeah I guess this does qualify as an in-joke then, doesn't it?Sorry anon, this thread won't be much of a Doom discussion, if that's what you're here for.
>>719516543It seems to have hit the skeleton wank phase of its development. With the skeletons this time being fox OCs.
>>719516653In all honesty, it's kind of amazing the switch could even run doom in the first place. Letting people make their own maps would've been a bridge too far, it would've been way too easy to make something the switch *really* couldn't handle.
>>719516838reddit exclusive problem, now go back
is this the thread where i ask for my ceroba hmofa picture?
>>719516770I know what the thread is about, just wanted to make a buffer before the yellow happened
>>719516770we've welcomed the on image topic discussion before I dont see why we'd stop now.
>>719516912You been in the threads lately?You-know-who posting's been rampant, practically every other thread at this point.
>>719516653Did anyone actually use snapmap? I just remember thinking it was a sorry substitute for mod tools.
>>719516994yes, and that's because you redditor faggots keep bringing that shit here, it's the only reason i even know about it
>>719516963Ah, clever. Still, it's a pretty obvious answer though, I'm pretty sure Nintendo's been making hardware consistently worse than the competition since the 64, so they've usually just been getting the table scraps when it comes to third party software.
>>719516543If I have enough replies in agreement to this, I will create a new thread. It feels Reddit like in here already and the thread image doesn’t convey anything
>>719516994A dark spirit has invaded
>>719517212there's no reason to run multiple threads at once, that itself would be a solid reddit moment.
>>719517281>dude i'm only posting shit from reddit ironically!>i can't shit on the leddit oc on leddit because my karma!fuck off and go back
>>719517212What's to stop me from Shuposting there too?
>>719517303>Shu mentioned already>Shit OC comic referencesIt needs to be purged
>>719517281Die.
Since I'm here in this thread, as always send me your requests, and I'll draw the most popular one/ones.And to reiterate what I said in the last thread. Yes you can make fics, greentexts, or whatever based on wholesome Cole bathing with Martlet images.Go nits with your ideas!https://files.catbox.moe/le8ckp.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dlyvn5.png
>>719517340I don't even use reddit, I just find the idea of the character hilarious. I don't see why all of you get so mad over it.
>>719517378Oh hey, glad you made it.You still considering any of the requests from the last thread?
>>719517378Zenith Martlet, Zenith Martlet, Zenith Martlet, Zenith Martlet.
>>719517378just a normal roba or hmofa robathere is a severe lack of both
>>719517359best to ignore it and engage in normal discussion. let it fall under the waves rather than to make things worse
>>719517378draw cole and kanako being cute, no lewd
>>719516543Undertale Yellow can be talked about on the Undetale/Deltarune general on /vg/. If this is what you have to resort to in order to hide from the moderators, then maybe it's time to accept that you need to go to /vg/. You'll be able to talk about your fan fiction there freely.
>>719517378I still just want some Ceroba/Anon extreme french kissing, with the anon looking exhausted. Or any Ceroba hmofa in general, I'll take whatever.
>>719517438I don't know what they are since the thread got nuked, so I never got the chance to see them lol.I hope everyone remembered otherwise they'll just have to send a different request.
>>719517504who the fuck is cole
>>719517531Many things can be talked about in a general, that doesn't mean any video game discussion *is* a general.
>>719517531>Undertale Yellow can be talked about on the Undetale/Deltarune general on /vg/.lollmao eventry doing that and see what happens
>>719517412laughing at mr shutan is one thing, unironically posting 10 pages of shu comix is an entirely different thing.>>719517531there is no rule against having threads related to a topic that also has a thread on /vg/. in fact it actively is not against the rules. we know you dont care about that though with all the actual generals that sit up at all times on this board.
>>719517378DRY Martlet looking for her bras.Cole finds them, is shocked to find one big one.And an even bigger one that belongs to her Zenith form.
>>719517531/utg/ is not about undertalethen again these threads are about reddit OCs now so who cares
>>719517550Here's the archive link, you can see every request made there: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719502520/#q719514240
>>719517378More wholesome Zartlet/Martlet stuff with Cole or Clover.
>>719517652come on now anon yeah theres some cancer but the vast majority of the threads still consists of uty discussion time after time.
>>719517531Janny is that you?
>>719517531maybe its time for you to kill yourself wannabe janny
>>719517378DRY Martlet or normal Martlet show her big melons innocently.
>>719517620>there is no rule against having threads related to a topic that also has a thread on /vg/.Then why make this a stealth thread if that's the case? Oh wait, that's because (You) know Undertale Yellows threads are being pruned by the moderators because threads like this belong on /vg/.
>>719517812no its being pruned because they have a vendetta against video game discussion that perfectly lines up with the rules of the website.
>>719517812KILL.YOURSELF.WANNABE.JANNY.>>719517378this version of lightner martlet, maybe attempting to look cool, ala Aragorn in the inn
>>719517702Since people were still sending in their requests there, I'm just let them continue to do it here, until I feel I've been sent enough for me to choose the most common/popular requests.
>>719517582clover, but deltarune yellow
>>719517874Wrong. That's because topics that get regularly reoccurring threads for more than 6 months are considered generals, and thus belong on /vg/.
>>719517812>Oh wait, that's because (You) know Undertale Yellows threads are being pruned by the moderators because threads like this belong on /vg/.>why are you hiding if you're innocent, must be because you're actually guilty!What are you, the CIA?
>>719517812>let’s not talk about video games on the video game boardDid you remember to dilate today?
>>719517378Bird monster Clover, after Martlet's given birth to him. Curious to see what he'd look like.
>>719518068Now what possible reason is the namefag called “Sage”
>>719517378martlet's pregnancy 4-5 months in. we've never seen anything like that
>>719518068you're actually wrong and again the rule and are ignorant to what was happening on the website when /vg/ and the general rule was created in the first place! its ok that you're a newfag(it is not), as long as you are willing to learn(you aren't)!
>>719518123Undertale Yellow's gameplay is not being talked about in these threads. You people are just sharing fanart and talking about how you all want to have sexual relations with these fictional characters.
>>719517378DRY verse. Cole asks Martlet why she's so flustered about the topic of sex.The answer is no one can handle when she goes Zenith.
>newfags have been doing muh "sage in all fields" spam for so long it confuses other newfagsgrim
>>719518217if you type sage in the options field your post wont bump the thread (its why threads that stop being bumped are called "autosaged")but the guy typed it in the name field instead of option
>>719518217 you're also a newfag being generous it could be "sage goes in all fields" following the old joke. being less generous its them putting sage in the wrong field, or actually thinking you were supposed to put it in all fields.>>719518276we discuss the games and fan projects which is in direct relaction to the games but oh no it looks like you ALSO weren't here when moot explained primary secondary and tertiary topics! these threads fit in the "primary and secondary" category by the way. I hope that helps since you're a little retarded
>>719518276i can assure you that less than 10 threads on the board are actually like>dood swinging that sword was so epic cool!
>>719518276There's more to a game than gameplay.Also, if that's the criteria we're going off of here, half this board is gonna need to be purged too.Cursed images /v/ thread? A thread where some guy calls Zelda his wife? Such riveting gameplay discussions.
>>719517378A simple nice image of a nude Martlet.
>>719517378something with roba and a nondescript human male would be nice
>>719518632>just go to the caustic landfill brolisten to yourself
>>719518632So do you waste your time spouting this drivel in the other non-gameplay oriented threads, or can you only get a stiffy from these ones?
>>719518250Wouldn't Martlet just have bigger belly?
>>719517369
>>719518739bingo. well, not just her belly, but other places as well
>>719518707I report off topic threads when I see them, yes.
>>719517812*Janny
>>719518834Your probably going to have to be more specific to the drawanon.
>>719516935it's been floating around, just find it
The mini janny is unironically more entertaining than anything else here
>>719517378The DRY gang doing a group JoJo pose
>>719518867so you spend more of your time on /v/ reporting everything than actually talking in the threads you like?
>>719518867Well it looks like you've been slacking, cause I can see a shitload of non-gameplay threads in this board. You'll never be a real janny at this rate, get back to work.
>>719517620>unironically posting 10 pages of shu comix is an entirely different thing.Is anyone doing that?Also I find the original character hilarious too. Coldsteel type OCs are just funny to me.
>>719519139A few threads ago, yeah.
>>719518632dont worry because you see, hiroshimoot never retracted any of what Im saying! the rules as codified still support the way these threads infrequently happen. dont worry you'll get the hang of basic logic one day
>>719517531Have you ever been to /utg/? They're hostile to any kind of Undertale discussion, let alone any mention of fangames. That thread is a social club for crazy people. They don't talk about Undertale there.
>>719518815Which one of you reposted this
>>719517582Clover but not dead.
>>719519269>They're hostile to any kind of Undertale discussion, let alone any mention of fangamesimagine being into fanfiction so fucking shitty, that not even /utg/ want you.
>>719519139you faggots were outright linking reddit directly
>>719519139look yeah its entertaining a little as a side note like the spencer shu joke is funny, but like the other anon said there was a few threads ago where there was a painful amount of unironic shu comic posting and then that same thread had the full shu creator commentary thing posted which under no circumstances is of any value.
>>719519269Then you're more than free to start a Undertale Yellow general on /vg/.
>>719519495the thread would die in less than 20 minutes, /vg/ is an hypercompetitive board
>>719519418>claude general cancer thinks he can talk shit about anyone
>>719517378Martlet or dry Martlet waking up in the nude. You can also add a Zenith alt.
>>719518632Maybe if they actually moderated /vg/ instead of turning it into an open air cess pit, people wouldn't mind moving discussion to /vg/.
>>719517378Kanako offering Cole to bath with her.A sort of sequel to the Martlet bathing with Cole image.
>>719519418Anon, the only things they do there are ritual posting, namefag drama, and cutting.
So.Anyone read any good fics lately?Anyone who says "one size too small" will be obliterated from orbit.
>>719519495It would either die or become just as much of a dumpster fire as /utg/. That board is poison and ruins any discussion that touches is.
>>719519318Repost? I made that ten minutes ago specifically to reply to that other anon.
>>719519906one size too smalldisclaimer: i don't read fics and have no idea what it is
>>719520032
>>719517378Zenith Martlet waking up perhaps?
>>719519906I'm still waiting until ochre tides is made public
>>719519218It wasn't that much.>>719519424That was because an anon wanted context to a joke.>>719519425I thought the creator content was pretty interesting, if for no other reason than that it proved my theories about the character correct. Anyways, you're all still actively contributing to Shu discussion by complaining about it. If you want to talk about something else then do it and people will talk about that instead.
>>719520015Wow.As the person you were replying to with that image, that's impressive.Also, die.
>>719520032Its the fic where Chujin molests Kanako.
>>719517378Cole trapped in Kanako's bedroom.
>>719520112lamp?
>>719519906I heard shattered decade is good but I haven't read it yetalso new return to form when
>>719517378Zartlet ub's clover with a game over screen.
>>719520326Cole was BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the hyperbolic fluff chamber for 1000 minutes.
>>719520391So what's with the stand wheels?
>>719517378Can you draw more wholesome stuff with Cole and Martlet, like when she was bathing with him.
>>719520032Oh, you don't know?https://pastebin.com/QmK5SyC0Here you go. The full fic's up on AO3, but this contains the part everyone talks about. picrel
>>719520285wonder what kind of life leads someone to write something like that
>>719520391>afab???
>>719520520autismlike legitimate autismhe probably spend more time on that than the drawing itself, if it is even his
>>719517378Cole sees Zenith Martlet for the first time.
>>719520769At the very least, the fic itself isn't written to be sexy, it's pretty clearly depicting the events as being traumatic and disgusting, with the chapter everyone got in a fuss about a while back actually ending with Kanako running away to tell Starlo what happened to her and Starlo vowing to kick Chujin's ass.
>>719520802all foxes are based
>>719520391>aged them and the world up by 10 yearsDoes Flowey become AM in this story and just exists to torture Clover for the fun of the game
You know, I'm somewhat surprised I haven't seen a super consistent depiction of an Underswap Yellow AU.
>>719521639>Does Flowey become AM in this story and just exists to torture Clover for the fun of the gameIf you want that, I'd suggest reading "1000 Years I Love You" by "Pan (ASexualPan)". Clover and Kanako both get David Lister'd and a data construct Flowey takes over the facility they were revived in and is trying to force them to reset. S'pretty good.
>>719517531I genuinely don't understand the problem of having an active thread on /v/ that reaches the post limit. Why wouldn't you want to encourage that over a low effort thread that ends up with three replies and an image before being archived?
>>719521772Sound kino I'll give it a look
>>719521905people like that have become addicted to the modern "funposting" mindset of /v/, and fell for the ancient "/v/ hates video games" meme. its best to just post bird at trying moments like this.
>>719521965It takes a sec to get going, but it's not too long, currently at 18/21 chapters, you could probably read it in an afternoon.
>>719519906All of CourierNew's work is amazing. He's got two for UTY, one documenting Chujin's self destruction and another depicting Martlet's suffering after Clover's sacrifice. There's a lot more in his catalogue for Undertale and Deltarune that are golden.And if you'll excuse some self-shilling, I think Partners is worth checking out. I upload under the name Cobalt_Core.
>>719521001 >>719520769The author of that fic I'm 99% shares this content with the underaged. I'm sure >>719520603 is them or one of their friends promoting their faggotry. Get this raped shit out of here, jesus
So do you anons think he looks better with his head tucked in or his neck visible?
Whatever happened to Frankenstein Complex? The author posted a couple really good chapters then just vanished.
>>719522812>The author of that fic I'm 99% shares this content with the underaged.This is America, we don't convict without evidence. What do you have?
>>719522912I think the one on the right looks a bit better, but they're both fine.
>>719521109all foxes are beautiful
>>719516543>typed out a whole damn review blogpost for when this thread would appear>thread appears during the wagie hoursShit damn boy. I'll be brief and simply say that the fact Yellow managed to get a general going shows not its quality, but the absolute desperation of the fanbase and the sheer awfulness of all the other fancontent. Hanging out with Flowey was fun at least, wish there was more banter.
used my going into game machines yesterday alongside some save file fuckery to go back in time and warn chujin about what the serum would to to his family therefore saving him and kanakonow he loves humans and insists i sleep in the same bed as him and ceroba every nightwhat do
>>719523796Nearly 4 years with nothing but cliffhangers did that to the fans.Plus I'm profoundly disappointed by the new Deltarune chapters, UTY was the best thing in this franchise in years despite being fanmade
>>719523956Yellow was fanfiction in the derogatory sense, retreading too much old ground and highlighting ambiguities that it really shouldn't have. IMHO the very idea of making a full-on Undertale prequel was doomed to begin with, but oh well.
>>719523953Take the dick. This is the future you chose.
>>719524224>IMHO the very idea of making a full-on Undertale prequel was doomed to begin withWhat makes you say that?
>>719524224Not really?Areas aside (and even then, UTY only has about three areas in common with UT), UTY largely goes over new ideas and concepts, and expands on some ideas from UT, but it doesn't really re-tread anything.
>>719522912I prefer the one with the neck
>>719523953ask to sleep in his daughter's bed instead
>>719524224>retreading too much old groundI'll be honest with you:One of the reasons I'm not enjoying Deltarune anymore is for how much it's straying away from what I enjoyed in Undertale. It's like the shitty romance is the only thing that stayed intact in the end.Undertale is also very short, it's only natural people will want more of that specifically.
>>719524362he keeps pushing his ass into my crotch though>>719524597so true!
>>719524874I was talking about Roba's
>>719524431Undertale is self-contained and "complete" in a way that discourages speculation on both past and present of the setting. I believe that's why there are so many damn AUs, because remixes flow way better than prequels and sequels. Madmen trying to tie UT and DR together need not reply.>>719524440>larper too invested in surface media>nefarious soul experiments>ineffectual royal guard stepping up when shit hits the fan>the entirety of steamworksFlowey is like the best "retread" because he is a familiar face in a different role. And the elephant in the room is (almost) exactly the same kill/spare routes. Frankly, with the whole western aesthetic I hoped for more different routes. Pacifist end felt less like a conclusion, and more like a contrivance to lead into Undertale proper. Can you find a good excuse for why Clover just gave up? Maybe I'm just missing the conclusive neutral route.>>719524609I like the funny animal RPG part, and do not like any new OC. Martlet was good as a tragic character (much better one than Ceroba lmao), but actually I agree with Flowey, those losers are just slowing me down.
>>719525191Normal thread stuff.
>>719520603Fox daddy https://files.catbox.moe/8afwpx.mp4
I see the topic brought up every so often of who would be a better parent, Ceroba or Martlet. I also see people bring up the question of which one would be the better partner.So, I have a similar question: Between the two, would you rather have Ceroba or Martlet, and would you rather have your pick be your wife, or your mom?
>>719525940martlet, wifenext
>>719525940Martlet for both.
>>719525940Marlet wife Ceroba mom, Chances are as long as there's no mad science nearby Ceroba wont get me killed, and thats a risk I'm willing to take
>>719525940Martlet for mom, and Martlet for wife for me.
>>719525940ceroba wife don't care about martlet in any way
>>719525359>Undertale is self-contained and "complete" in a way that discourages speculation on both past and present of the settingIts complete in such a way that it doesn't encourage speculation on the past, but I wouldn't say it actively discourages it. There's nothing that says you can't tell a story about another human falling into the underground before Frisk, or about something even earlier than that. Nor is there anything that definitively stops you from telling a side story set in another part of the underground with another story parallel to Frisk's journey, or to tell some story in some other place in which monsters were sealed which the game neglected to mention in the opening narration.I see quite a lot of interesting thematic stuff to play with in the setting, a lot of blank spaces in the lore to fill in, and a lot of room for more fun characters.>I like the funny animal RPG part, and do not like any new OCIn UTY or Deltarune?
>>719525940Ceroba wife would be good. Very loving and devoted. Just don't try any science nonsense.
>>719527204Of course, no science nonsense around her.Unless...
>>719527285When's the last time you tried any mad science experiments in your life?
>>719516543This scene was such an awesome betrayal and then doom eternal put him in a pickle jar and the sword fucking sucked. Fuck you id
>>719527504honestly mind boggling, doom 2016 wasn't perfect but it had me really interested in trying the next game and it just felt like some adjacent experience instead of a sequel
>>719527369Depends on what you classify as "mad". A few years ago, probably, unless I'm forgetting something. I will not be elaborating.
Honestly, based on how magic-science/science-science seems to work in UT, I think I could hack it as a scientist in the UT world, if my real world science skills are anything to go by. I mean, if Alphys can technically get some things done, imagine what an even slightly competent person could do.
>>719528265>what an even slightly competent person could do in a world where absolute fuck ups manage to make robotic bodies for ghosts and masters of science make the CORE, I think yeah you're odds are probably pretty good. Assumably not smart enough to make the core so you're safe enough from a face worse than death for now.
>>719528416Yeah, I doubt I'd be able to replicate the design of the core without years or decades worth of studying magic mechanics and the physics of that world, but I bet I could do something.I've actually had an idea to take one of those green/orange magic laser emitters from the Core, and see if they could be made to emit green magic somehow, effectively making a long range medigun. I mean, powering a laser is pretty simple, I studied electrical engineering, but the hard part would probably be figuring out how to make the magic component emit green magic in the first place.
Where'd everybody go?
>>719527589You can't drop that and not elaborate. Taking benadryl and alcohol does not count.
>>719529990Okay fine, I'll elaborate slightly.Attempting to overclock a probably-legal green laser diode I purchased to make it powerful enough to burn things. I have most of the relevant electrical knowledge, none of the safety equipment, and just enough tools to improvise with. I still wanna get back to that someday, but honestly if I'm gonna actually try and assemble a laser gun or something, I'll probably have to buy some better diodes, and more of them.Not really "mad", or necessarily an experiment, but I figure it counts at least slightly.
>>719529961I think we should've gone for saturday instead, most people have things to do after sunday.
>>719530231Well, there's always good probably legal electrical surplus from the ussr on ebay. Worth a look.
>>719531465You know, I'm a little surprised there aren't any definitive 3d models for the UTY cast by now.
>>719531465I really like this art style. Reminds me of Solatorobo's 3d models.
Should I do something with the wings on the backwards facing sprite? And should I keep the shading on the back of his head, or just make it flat?
>>719531637add some black contours around the shading?I think wings can remain as is
>>719525940Martlet for either one
>>719531664Like this?
>>719532117maybe remove these pixels here
>>719532214I don't know about this one.
>>719516543Multiplayer games without community server browsers, mod support and a map editor are shit.Modding an existing game or creating a fangage can also easily outstrip the efforts of a "professional" studio, especially a mobile shovelware remake team.A lot of the most popular slop nowadays is just corporate takes on community mods.
Wonder how long this one'll last.Surprisingly slow night.
>>719520391why is clover's height in imperial and kanako's in metric
I've got dueling brainrots right now. On the one hand, I'm supposed to be working on my fangame and I have a deadline to meet. On the other hand I really want to write JoJo fanfiction because I keep coming up with cool stand ideas. Being a creative with adhd is a curse.
>>719533681What is the soul in UTDR if not a really weird utility stand?
>>719533723Its basically just Bites The Dust. Though you could turn soul modes into a utility stand type thing too.
>>719533780Eh, That's only one aspect of the red soul's abilities, and that's not even necessarily a power unique to it in the context of UT's world.If the name's available, I say the red soul's stand name could be Master of Puppets, since so much of what it does is centered around controlling people.
>>719533840Thinking about it, the soul's powers are JoJo villain stand material. It has the power to bend reality in whatever way it needs to fulfill its user's desires. The stronger the desire, the stronger the will, so the more bending it can do. And with the strongest desire, the desire to live, it can bend time and refuse death.I guess you could treat it like one of those rogue stands like cheap trick, which moves from owner to owner. Perhaps while still carrying the conscious mind of its original owner.
>>719533664very silly USA / JP measurement system difference joke>>719520825the artist is credited at the bottom of the image.also yeah he's autistic & ADHD, at least according to his account profiles. he's not exactly hiding it.
>>719534061I could actually see that working pretty well, that's a good idea.The question is, who's the original owner then?Would Echoes Act 3 using it's 3freeze ability on the red soul be the equivalent of blue magic?
>>719534285>>719534061Actually, I think I have a pretty good idea for how you could write that-The actual stand owner doesn't matter. Much like how it doesn't matter specifically who the player/angel is, the red soul stand's exact identity would mostly irrelevant. What really matters is what it wants: to see everything. Every possible alternate sequence of events it can influence. Just like a player doing a genocide route, it does good and bad things not because they're right or wrong, but because it can, and because it can, it "has" to. To see everything this world has to offer.I think that would make for a pretty good villain, and would do a decent job conveying what the red soul is like to everyone else in UTDR.
>>719534285>The question is, who's the original owner then?Original universe Chara. First it attached itself to Frisk so it could keep living after its original owner died, then when Pucci destroyed the universe its ability moved it to the SBR universe into the conveniently soulless Frisk equivalent, Kris. Perhaps Kris had died and been healed by a stand like Giorno's, leaving a soulless but living body, which allowed the soul to jump in. >Blue soul modeSeems like its own unique but similar ability, like how Emperor and Sex Pistols are similar but different. Echoes makes things heaving, but blue mode controls gravity. Echoes can only make things sink into the ground, but blue can change the direction of gravity and make things fall in any direction.
>>719534823I think the other soul modes might be a bit of a problem for this stand system, since with the exception of the yellow soul mode, every soul mode seen in UT is something that other people impose on the red soul, as opposed to a natural ability possessed by the red soul itself.
>>719534589The stand could have jumped hosts so many times that even it doesn't know its original user. It doesn't even know its real name because its been called so many things. As a side note. Since the soul has reset time many times to do everything and now its doing the evil route, you could have the original villain the arc was meant to have be a major character. Either the knight or flower depending on which universe. The question is what would their stands be?
>>719535012Then the stand ability would belong to the person applying the soul mode. So purple (purple rain?) would be Muffet's stand, green would be Undyne's, etc.
>>719535059If it's Flowey, I think it would almost make more sense for him to not necessarily have a stand with a particular ability, since part of his story is the fact that he lost his power when Frisk/the red soul showed up. That, or maybe he'd still have a stand centered around a similar kind of time magic, but with the actual time manipulation aspect being overpowered by the red soul, leaving him with only the ability to remember between resets.I'm not sure what kind of stand the Knight would have, since it doesn't really seem to have any really unique abilities outside of it's "swoon" ability. The Knight's mostly just strong, but other than that, not a lot to go off of.
Made some concept sketches for some of the Dark Worlds in Deltarune Crack Theory Fangame. We really should come up with an actual name for it...Also, do any of you have some suggestions for how to make Chapter 1 not feel like a retread? The plan is to be different mainly in gameplay and characterisation, but the story beats and setting are pretty much the same. I'm drawing blanks on how to make it not overly derivative, and I think this really matters since first impressions are important.
>>719535397>Deltarune Crack Theory Fangameqrd? i don't come to yellow threads too often and i don't go to /vrpg/, and i don't recall hearing about this in regular deltarune threads.
>>>/vg/
>>719535923>Gasp, video game discussion on the video games board? Not if I have anything to say about it!Thank you for your service, janny wannabe.
>>719535309Maybe Flowey has a weak stand with time manipulation powers, but he loses the time manipulation when (you) take over, leaving him with a useless stand. But later he gains 7 powerful stands as an equivalent to the souls. >The knightThe knoght could be a stand for all we know. It can shapeshift, swoon people, create that wind that pushes people, and is strong as shit in general. Maybe its an armor type stand that draws its power from darkness, giving its user all those powers when they're in the dark.
>>719535397You could add player choice to chapter 1. That'd be a major departure from the original chapter 1.
Speaking of Dark World designs - is it me or Toby is really into Cubo-Futurism?
>>719535915Reposting my previous answer to this question:It's a reinterpretation of Deltarune based on what people speculated would happen rather than what actually did happen. The goal is to use the unused and manifest what could have been.I first mentioned it in this thread, but keep in mind the character swap angle has been scrapped:https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717132354/#717165969>>719536818I really like the idea, and doing this early on might actually set the stage for rest of the story.Could I ask for some examples of what you had in mind? I was planning on introducing the recruit system in Chapter 1 and have it affect the story in a couple ways, but beyond that I can't think of anything specific.
>>719537120Spamton on the bottom right. Spamton Neo second from top left. Also these all look like JoJo stands
>>719537295You could add a violent way to beat K Round, add the wbility to actually respond to Susie's questions (even if she still ignores your choice), the option to resolve the vs Lancer and Susie fight by joining them instead of beating them (still done as an act), and the option to ditch school at the start, even if you still have to come back to progress the chapter.
>>719538764These are cool, thanks for the ideas. I'll take a stab at incorporating them.
>>719537120Some of those are literally spamton neo
this bird
>>719537120The head for that one on the top right kinda looks like Swatch.What's this image from, has Toby ever directly mentioned this or anything?
>>719542546https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_the_Sun
i'm going to marry the entire fox family
>>719543653>the entire fox familyAnon, no!
Wish there was a route where you can just follow the instructions that Flowey gives you
>>719542415SPHERICAL
i'm going to kill the entire fox family
>>719545842Entire fox family...
Are we autosaged?
>>719548224Let's see
>>719548224Unfortunately yes
>>719549998Faggot, we're still on.
>>719542673if you want a game that takes from victory over the sun play anthology of the killer
I think that Clover should be adopted by Starlo, not Martlet or Ceroba.
>>719550657not if I have anything to say about that
>>719520603What's the name of the fic in AO3? Each time I come to these threads the pastebin already expired.
>>719551583https://archiveofourown dot org/works/65440534/chapters/168423799
>>719551583One size too small
>>719544202I think shades of justice adds that as a route, and another mod too
Why does he look back? Does he know?
>>719553309I've read it as "trying to contain one's rage by looking away from the cause".
>>719550657he should just be a feral child roaming the underground
>>719550657A child needs a mother figure.
>>719553201 Yeah, Shades of Justice definitely leans into that whole "what if you actually did what Flowey said" vibe, even lets you go full tyrant if you want. The mod you're thinking of might be "Determined Path"-it's more janky, but it plays with similar ideas. Honestly surprised Toby never leaned into an official alt-evil route where you’re not a psycho, just blindly obedient.
>>719544095why not?i love robai love chujinand i love kanako but i'll give her a couple of yearshttps://youtu.be/-VRz2vZGOeI?feature=shared&t=6
>>719554587Shut up Tori
>>719516543
>>719558792i cant believe martlet enjoyers either have no lips or have big fat black man lips
i will post ai slop to keep the thread alive, this is a threat
>>719559930pls don't
>>719559980
it's over start dumping ai slop
>>719517281Shu is truly the gift that keeps on giving
>>719561484i actually wasn't going to do it but the gay redditor posting just began so i'm gonna gen some robaslop and post it
>>719519418/utg/ is a rancid shithole even by the standards of this websiteyou'd have better luck trying to discuss the game with whatever small animals happen to live in your neighborhoodat least then your neighbors will just think you're insane as opposed to actively wishing death upon you
the power of 2 year old nigrigged ai slop models
>>719554587A child needs a mother, father, and tribe of likeminded children of the same age range. Or else they end up terminally online like us.
>>719563259I'd rather have redditslop with soul than aislop without
>>719564189>redditslop with soulan oxymoron, now go back
>>719564335no the anon is right, it's peak cringekino
It's just real sad to see Redditors openly crosspost at all.
you're getitng the sloppy background robas and you will be happy
>>719564667It's been a reality for some time. I've noticed a lot of the things discussed here end up on reddit around the same time and vice versa. It's genuinely over.
>>719563837>>719564754God that looks like pure ass
>>719565408yes it does look like total dogshit, on par with the sovlfvl reddit garbage
Big tail
>>719544202That would just lead to an unwinnable fight against Asgore like in flawed pacifist.Not that it would be a bad ending. It would fit nicely into the "canon" timeliness.
What even was Flowey's endgame?
>>719568218>Get Clover to Asgore>Asgore reveals the 5 human souls>Kill Asgore >Kill Clover>Absorb the 6 soulsPretty straightforward
>>719568218Do AM tier shit, idk, he was just bored and saw Clover as a plaything.
>>719568295What's the point? He would still lack the power to shatter the barrier and he already has the power to save.
>>719563224This just makes me want a Chujin Breaking Bad fic. Though Shu's Hank role here should be given to Starlo.
>>719568847>He would still lack the power to shatter the barrierAt that point he'll be able to cross the barrier and collect as many human souls as he wants
>>719567107That must be a pretty expensive prosthesis to move like that.
reminder that the artist who designed ceroba came here and confirmed that she does have a tail but that it's just hidden
Ceroba's tail fell off because she is so stupid
Ok this thread is in dire need of some new content to discuss. I'm already working on a fangame, but I'm worried the threads will be dead before I have a demo ready. You anons think if I made a fic in the style of a prequel fangame that it would revitalize discussion? Or maybe a fic that ties in to my fangame? Or should I just go into crunch so I can get some kind of content rich demo out for you guys to discuss?
>>719570971She lost it to frostbite after he uncle jokingly told her to use it for ice fishing.
>>719557106An outside male role model works but not the other way around.
>>719570735I’m sorry anon, but no, only boss monsters of her species have tails. Theres no reason for her to hide it like SusieAlso, dev word of god for Undertale Yellow is bad. They couldn’t even decide what Mooch’s age was, so a dev supposedly coming here to claim something is canon and not mentioning it’s canon in other social media shouldn’t be taken as word of god at all
>>719571747Having a single mother is awful for a child's development. The only solution is for Starlo to marry one of the girls so Clover can have a proper family.
>>719571819sorry to hear you're new but its not my problem
>>719571920How does stating facts make me a newfag? You’re really going to take a disorganized dev team’s “word of god” as truth? Just accept she doesn’t have a tail
You can tell it’s getting reddit in here with the increasing promotion of Mary Sue OCs, pedoshit, and cuckshit
>>719571343I don't think a fic will do much, we are just having a slow thread thats all
>>719572439I mean the lack of discussion topics. We have nothing to talk about, which is why the threads keep being slow and are getting slower.
>>719572859imagined issue, last weeks thread was faster than the previous 3 weeks before that. what happened this week is that people were having a lot of the discussion on another board and the image used this time is easy to miss. A good fic is always welcome though, dont get me wrong and because of finding these threads in the first place Im now committed to keeping my ear to the ground for releases.
So chujin, is there enough information about him to really glean character traits from him? people write all sorts of stuff about kanako who essentially has no actual set traits but I feel like Chujin there's a pretty good amount of information to illustrate what kind of person he was either from hints in the game or even just the logs. Say if for whatever reason him and clover were able to meet after the barrier was broken, would he double down on hating humans or would clovers contrast to integrity shake his autism up?
>>719574486i feel like it depends on when would it happen and what route would clover take if they met?chujin before really starting to work on the serum but after the snowdin incident would probably shaken up real hard by meeting a pacifist clover but anything else would just reinforce his prejudices, and by the time chujin is deep into his work on the serum pragmatism would probably take over any moral concerns with any human
>>719575229this is in a world where clover gave up his life to break the barrier, a "what if they both came back and had the chance to meet" kind of autism", which also assumes that frisk did a pacifist route as well. I imagine he'd be stubborn but at the same time learning 2 humans back to back fought to free monsters, one of them dying willingly may be able to poke holes in his fears if even just a little. I assume that clover from a pacifist ending wouldnt attack chujin himself, I get the impression that in that route he's judging monsters as a whole as "not guilty" because of the circumstances they were put into thus deciding they deserve to go free, his LV surge against axis in the genocide is fitting but when seeing the tapes and learning the same stuff that doesn't happen in pacifist, a more merciful kind of judge in that route.
>>719567107
>>719574486He was a caring, passionate man, who loved his family, and had a deep seated fascination with science and the future. He was apparently such a good father figure that even one of his employees viewed him like a father. His only flaws were his obsessive personality and his ego. All in all, he's like a nicer Walter White.
>>719571343The problem with these ideas is that they will revitalise discussion, but only for maybe a few threads at best. Think about how Wildfire and Promise's demos didn't really add whole lot here, and even DRY1's initial release hype only carried discussion for a couple weeks.To actually answer your question, I think a playable demo has the greatest likelihood of revitalising discussion. Fics are cool, but in these threads I don't even see people talking much about, say, Return to Form.I'm still eager to see any of these ideas come into fruition. Just don't overdo it, please: crunching for a content rich demo on a game you can't even sell isn't worth it. A regular demo or fic is perfectly fine.
>>719571912They don't need to marry to both be around.
>>719577184>and even DRY1's initial release hype only carried discussion for a couple weeksDRY did a lot for discussion. Even before release, half of all thread discussion was about DRY. That's why it at first glance doesn't look like it added to the discussion, because DRY discussion was already happening. >Wildfire and PromiseThe problem with Wildfire is that its a single fight demo, with not much to discuss, and the problem with Promise is that its a game nobody here wanted or asked for. Sure they don't actively wish they didn't get it, but they weren't particularly interested in it either.What this thread needs, I think, are new characters and scenarios to talk about, Ones which appeal to the same interests as UTY did, and appeal to the sensibilities of the anons here.>Crunch is badKeep in mind, this is by fangame made for fun standards. So that means I work on the game every day for a few hours rather than just whenever I feel like it. And by content rich I meant something with enough content to be worth discussing, rather than a single fight with little to no plot.
>>719575645ok in that world i think chujin's preconceptions of humanity would just melt down
My fox brainrot has gone so far that my love for Ceroba kind of spilled over to Chujin too and now I just really want to hug both.
>>719577820just right away or would it take some time? I hear some people imagining him as the type to say "one of the good ones" but that may be out of character memery, however would his past experiences make him defensive at first or would it just fall away immediately?
>>719578282it would take time for his view on humanity as a whole to fall apart completely, but i doubt he'd be that defensive over pacifist clover or frisk on this scenario specially since both did a lot to free monsterkind
>>719578129they're interesting characters, it calls back to the fact that despite yellows flaws it really put together something special
>>719578430fair, I personally imagine that he'd be doubtful at first that they really did what people say they did, but would probably buy it immediately with clover when ceroba herself tells him what happened, and then by extension because "logically if it could happen once" he'd buy into frisk as well.
DRYanon2 here, quick update.>discovered that the system im using for collisions actually sucks (kanako can run through walls while her dash is active), need to fix>terraria absorbed me (if something bricks the world before silksong's release, i'll actually make some progress. if not, it might be a while.in the meantime: green ideas, hit me.
>>719577184>I don't even see people talking much about, say, Return to Form.people discussed it when sig updated weekly, but now the updates are every 2 or so months
>>719580727Clover has a Tenth Doctor style meltdown when they realize they realize they're going to give up their soul for monsterkind. (not that they *have* to, but that they realize they simply *will*, because of their own standards of justice.)For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUhCGJJQa0
>>719581253Im not normally someone who hates something based on its fanbase, but I just never felt motivated to give doctor who a shot. Im sure its probably good but from afar it just felt "insufferable". probably just caught my autism the wrong way
>>719574486I think Chujin's hate boner steams from humanity's ability to obliterate monsterkind without so much as breaking a sweat. I don't think he'd change his mind so long as this blade hangs over their heads.
>>719582529I haven't seen too much of classic Doctor Who (and no one can ever see all of it, since the BBC lost some of the original tapes, whoops), but I can tell you the 2005-2010 stuff was pretty good. I.e, from Eccleston to Tennant and that's it. There's some decent stuff after that, but it's a lot more hit or miss from there on out and then it just got kinda bad after a while.I'm not gonna say you need to watch it or anything, since Doctor Who definitely isn't for everyone, but if you like science-fiction mystery/adventure stuff, maybe it'll do something for you.
>>719577184Return to Form was always talked about when it was updated, and several comments were made on each chapter to on A03. Since we're waiting for new updates, we can't really talk about it, other than pointing people in the direction to read, or making fan art based on the fic.
>>719583032its definitely the genre im into, sci-fi and sci-fi fantasy are my top 2 as a whole, I just always got the impression looking from the outside, and seeing how people react to it that it may be "whiny" which is an odd description but it may just be seeing the british snark combined with the kind of people that often flock to it. I may check it out eventually but its hard to say.
>>719516653It was an entirely separate client, and barely anyone played Doom's multi in the first place.
>>719582773so then do you think he would hold that against clover as well, or would he see through those feelings when it comes to clovers deeds.
>>719581253hmmm. not exactly feeling the spark for this one, but i'll give it some time. the idea will come later.
>>719584282I think no one can deny the good deeds Clover has done. I just have a feeling that Chujin would forever see him as just another ticking time bomb that can go off at any moment. Give what Clover can do in the genocide route maybe Chujin is partially justified.
>>719585501I dont think thats unreasonable, I got thinking about it because theres some fic thats unfinished and was going nowhere fast about asgore wiping out the surface and then bringing back the fallen children as some kind of penance. assuming clover upon coming back didn't want revenge against all monster kind "asgores fault not monsterkinds fault" or something like that, I think the story was going to be about the ketsukanes taking him in. Again the story went nowhere, and personally I dont like "clover revived as a monster" stories so I'd rather such a story be viewed as if he was still human in this world. In a case like that Chujins fears would probably be reasonable, but I cant imagine pacifist clover turning his hatred on anyone but asgore and possibly the royal guard in that case, but even then maybe just asgore since the royal guard is as a whole about as effective as martlet. Its definitely an autistic tangent but this is what happens when stories get written with 3 chapters then dropped forever hundreds and hundreds of times over
>>719580727Queen Undyne facing Old Clover (post Jaundice) after passing the barrier with a human sovl
>>719584010Classic Dr Who sits somwhere between Lost In Space and classic Trek in terms of tone, modern Dr Who was part of the foundation for Tumblr writing. Its well made, but definitely has the "quirky" humor that can get grating at times and does get pretty contrived and preachy as well.
>>719587570NTA, but I feel like it's better to separate new DW by writers, since Russell T. Davies' writing was very different from Steven Moffat's writing, which was very different from Chris Chibnall's writing. The writing quality was very much like a downward slope once RTD passed control over to Moffat, but the stuff RTD had control over was really good.
>>719585982It's such an extreme premise that it's not unreasonable that Clover would attempt to pass judgment on all of monsterkind. In the genocide route he gains levels once he finds out that Axis murdered a child and even in flawed pacifist he snaps when he finds out the fate of the others kids that went missing. I don't see this having a happy or meaningful end once he hears that all life on the surface has been obliterated. The concept of the story is so flawed that you can't run very far with it.
>>719587953honestly the concept IS a mess, but I think it probably could go some places, though I understand why the thing that got me on this tangent was dropped. Clover in the pacifist route already passed a judgement on all monsterkind when giving up his soul, I can see how it could be spun that he would revoke that judgement and go on a spree against them all, but at the same time I could see him getting the LV boost, but going after the singular target and possibly any he views as "complicit" 'Toriel you had a duty as queen to stop this' for instance. I dont see the same clover who decided "monsters deserve to see the surface" going back and wiping all of them out, if he was able to judge monsters like ceroba as worthy of mercy. I imagine a renewed journey to face asgore on the surface, empowered by LV and eventually only finding a broken man who doesn't fight back at all when justice comes knocking, even more unwilling to fight than he was in the original undertale ending. I dont think its a happy story but there's places it could go.
>>719587827I was talking about 9th and 10th dr stuff
>>719587827it's better to do the same with the classic series as well
>>719588360But I mean look at it from Clover's point of view. You deemed monsterkind deserving of being brought up to the surface and your poor judgment resulted in all of humanity going extinct both the guilty and the innocent as well as all other forms of life that just got caught in the crossfire. The setting makes it so that the only logical conclusion is Clover killing everyone and then himself. The alternative is him forgiving a genocidal tyrant. Ether way the story ends up with no message nor purpose.
>>719590515>Ether way the story ends up with no message nor purpose.NO REGRETNO REMORSENO REASONONLY MADNESS
>>719590515>The setting makes it so that the only logical conclusion is Clover killing everyone and then himself>The alternative is him forgiving a genocidal tyrantI dont think either of those are the case. if he judged monsterkind themselves as worthy of mercy he may realize that he made a mistake, in that he included their king in that mercy before. the guilt in being so shortsighted thinking that ALL monsters deserved mercy when there was one that clearly wanted his kind dead would weigh on him. I think instead it would be a journey where clover intends to take down the king with no intention to make it through this himself, likely expecting he'll need to die one more time to bring justice, a price he would feel is deserved. I dont think he'd turn his gun on martlet who he would have seen as the first person to see that attacking him was wrong underground, or ceroba whos crimes were all linked back to the original crimes of humans and the fear it put in monster kind. it wouldn't make sense for him to kill the people he decided to care about when he knows exactly who's responsible for this.it could even have a "pacifist and genocide" spin where both stories lead to him going to kill asgore, but in one route he spares the "innocents" who lived under a madman, and in another route his name is notim portant
>>719591085Damn I'm fucking retarded. Here have this (You)
>>719592164what are you talking about anon, I'm just engaging in some autism born from reading an incomplete story. the notimportant is because of the line from that game "no life worth saving"
Uh oh, thread's sinking.
fuck it, robaslop
>>719594868stop that, there's no reddit trash.
I wonder how Ceroba would react to people's (in the real world) opinions on her.I also wonder what she would think of all the porn people have drawn of her.
>>719595348too dumb to use the internet most likely
>>719596563I dunno, what if someone just sat her down in front of a pc with a tab opened to e6 with the search results for her?
>>719596723probably disgust, confusion, and due to not really understanding what the internet is, fear as to why you have an entire gallery of porn of her on hand
>>719596956Ah, I'm sure it's fine.Maybe she'd take it well.
>>719596956>and due to not really understanding what the internet is, fear as to why you have an entire gallery of porn of her on handthey have their own internet in the underground tho
>>719597454which I dont think there's any evidence ceroba uses, nor does she have a phone which even toriel had and she's been in home for a long time.
>>719597552Eh, I imagine Chujin had to have had a computer laying around somewhere, maybe she messed around with it while working on the serum at some point.
>>719594868honestly not bad, I fear that soon I will no longer be able to tell aislop from real art
>>719516543reminder that roba is fat
>>719598506Not yet
>>719598506roba is fat...
>>719598596her loving husband anon will take on the role of the architect
>>719597552>>719597723she knows how to type random passwords in but that's it
>>719599093Okay, but there's a pretty big difference between using a laptop compared to restarting a dilapidated power plant.I think we can cut her a little bit of slack here.
>"Clover, why do you keep putting up with that little weed you call a best friend?">"Oh yes, I know about him. So let me ask...why put up with him? He doesn't seem like a very good friend.">"How about I be your new best friend instead?"
>>719599297you see though its funnier playing into her being extra dumb EX
>>719597784it wasnt even a very good result either, all of the ceroba loras either look off or sloppify the style of the gen some more (went for the later in this case as i'd rather have a better roba)i usually wouldn't post my slop too, but the thread was dying so whatever
>>719599549I can't tell if tailroba is better or worse
>>719599627I dont hate ai on principle, its just that so many of the people generating stuff just spam all the hundreds of hardly different variations of the same generation result over and over. it gets old really quick and doesn't give the same good feelings as someone sharing their bird scribbles
>>719599297that's true, i was actually looking for the line where she admits she's just no good at using technology but i was too lazy to find it
>>719599859yeah, people who just spam every single trash gen that comes out of their shitty prompts are really annoying as fuck, if someone is going to post slop, they should at least try picking one single decent gen and leaving it at that
>>719599841I like it on occasion
>>719598905Bigger...
>>719591085But the monsters voted to have a genocidal tyrant as their king, so its not like theyre innocent
>>719600457my gut instincts tells me that it doesn't work that way.
>>719600612If the monsters can easily exile queen toriel and have undyne usurp the throne, then that means they couldve chosen to not have a genocidal tyrant on the first place, theyre pretty much supporting human extinctionp
>>719600306no that's a reasonable cap
>>719600919No it isn't, she should be even bigger
>>719600875they did not vote for their king, and while underground asgore has done them no wrong while promising to right the wrongs done to them. if we're following pacifist route clover then he's already judged them as deserving of mercy. They are civilians placed in extraordinary circumstances. even in past examples in our world we prosecuted those directly involved in the crimes not the civilians disconnected.
>>719600975blobfags go and stay go
>>719601132Yeah, judged the good ones, but many of the monsters are in the side of commiting human genocide, otherwise, asgore wouldnt feel so pressured to follow through the human genocide plan, besides, its highly likely that asgore isnt the only one hunting the humans down, so even then clover could change their mind and decide that most of monsterkind are assholes
>>719601741>couldyes so I suggested this could go a genocide or "partial" pacifist route. its also reasonable to judge that the citizens were under duress which they expressly were. Clover got to experience that almost every single monster he met was willing to lay down arms and be peaceful within less than a minute of meeting a human, the beings that had sealed them down to the misery of the underground, an opportunity asgore would have prevented the rest of monsterkind from getting, which is why Im posing that he doesn't need to slaughter monsterkind, when it could be more targeted. after all clover became so convinced of how hard it was on the people to be stuck underground he was willing to kill himself for their hope, its not unreasonable for him to still spare the ones he would have spared before.
>>719543653get in line
>>719600875>if the monsters can easily exile queen toriel and have undyne usurp the throne, then that means they couldve chosen to not have a genocidal tyrant on the first place, theyre pretty much supporting human extinctionpThey can easily exile Toriel but no AsgoreAsgore (base form) is stronger than every single monster combined
>>719602747it is fair to say that from the dialogue, monsters think asgore is super strong
>>719599403sure thing
>>719602747>Asgore (base form) is stronger than every single monster combinedWhere are you getting this from?
>>719599403Kanako if Integrity got a 20 on her will save
>>719602747Asgore has the same ATK and DEF as toriel
>>719602190The royal guard would have to go, through.>inb4 "but martlet was a royal guard and clover didnt see her as evil so why would clover kill the other royal guards"Martlet literally quits, she's the obvious exception
>>719604338My dreams
>>719605136My dreams say Asgore jobs to angry mobs and so does the true pacifist ending
>>719580727>kanako can run through walls while her dash is activeJust slap some magic glass under her
>>719605028>that inb4I already suggested in an earlier post the "complicit" would be at the other end his vengeance. I could see room for there being a character in the guard that throws down their weapon finding what happened disgusting and it could go either way on if clover would spare that one but as a whole I think the whole royal guard is going down. its hard to even believe that martlet would stand against him if he wasn't on a full on killing spree, if he went to kill all monster kind she'd make a stand against him but I think asgore doing that would be crushing to her own sense of justice.
what's to stop monsterkind from getting wiped out by one disgruntled retard when they get to the surface
>>719606107because there's enough other retards that want monster GF that would have that retards head. Unity through mutually assured destruction.
>>719606107Because an entire mob of furry lovers will beat that retard to death. Don't think people would take too kindly to their monster boyfriends and monster girlfriends getting dusted.
>>719606563and its not gonna be the half assed internet furries, its gonna be the real life captain kirk ,harkness souled people figuring shit out.
>>719587089>undyne took her first steps through the barrier and out of the cave>she took in a deep breath of surface air, and let out a toothy grin.>the sun was high in the air>she honestly never thought that she'd get to see the surface.>a new soul falling after so many had fell in quick succession, HAH!>but now wasnt the time to get lost in it all.>she had a mission>6 more souls, thats all it'd take to become a god and give humanity what they deserve>she saw a house off in the distance, her first target--->undyne crashed through the roof of clover's house>he let off a few shots before running outside>undyne followed him through the wall.>U: "HUMAN!">U: "dont you know whats going on?">C: "i do actually">clover shot one of undyne's spear's out of the air>C: "you're trying to take my soul to open the barrier">U: "so humanity still remembers? GOOD! THAT MEANS IT'LL HURT MORE WHEN I PERSONALLY KILL EACH AND EVERY ONE-">C: "they dont">U: "-OF you...? them how do you know what im doing?">U: "the only way you'd know that is if you've been to the underground. and that would mean-">undyne noticed the human's hat and revolver>its him, she felt a cold chill down her spine for just a moment>undyne blocked a shot with her spear>U: "alright. i get it, then CONSIDER THIS REVENGE!">the two began fighting>they both pushed the other's skill to the very limit>with, of course, some dialog.>C: "you understand what im going to do when i win, right?">U: "hah, as if i'll let you win">...>C: "im going to clean out the rest of the underground.">the phrase made undyne pause for a moment, she almost took a headshot>U: "hah! please. as if you'd be able to do that.">C: "why not? i've already been through once. and you're the strongest they've got.">U: "... so its even more reason to NOT LET YOU WIN!">the fight continued1/2
>>719606107The police.
>>719606664>finally, undyne managed to knock clover down>he laid against a wall, seemingly accepting defeat>C: "alright... ya got me.">undyne tore clover's soul out of his chest>C: "you're not killing me?">U: "oh i will. i just want to do it with the power of your own soul">undyne absorbed it and let out a maniacal laugh>she held out her hand and tried to conjure a soul blast like he had done throughout the fight.>clover let out a smirk as her body started to glow yellow>before undyne could realize what was happening she erupted into a yellow pillar of light>clover's soul floated there, it had now absorbed the power of two monsters.>he got up and reabsorbed his own soul, the soul that undyne used to cross the barrier floated away.>clover looked at the ruins of his house, and then mt ebott.>well, without a house there was really only one place to go>he put on his hat, picked up his gun, and made his way back to the underground's entrance
>>719606751>>719606664not bad, sad theres no undying shenanigans but I feel like undying only happens because genocide frisk is a threat to ALL things
>>719605734Undyne would be too relentless in her human hunting spree that she's gonna command the dogs into attacking clover
>>719608810certainly, Im just leaving the possibility open that there could be a character among them that's open for a "unique encounter".
>>719606107Idk but psychotic serial killers would have a field day because of how easy it is to cover up a monster's death, i bet that human kills from them would lower in general after the monsters appear
>>719608951hard to say as a whole. from some yeah a kill is a kill but for others it may not feel "real" enough. if it just falls apart into dust sure its easier to hide but if they are driven by compulsions like a lot of serial killers are, then that may not satisfy the compulsions and desires.
>>719602535too late for you, i just married ceroba and chujin at the same time, and kanako will be next when she grows older
>>719610306Well, at least you're waiting.If nothing else.
Do you think the wings look better on top or bottom?
>>719611919I dont know anything about this character but the top ones make me feel like they are sassy or incredulous in some way. they look good but thats the feeling I get
>>719611919Top one makes it look like their hands/whatever are on their hips, like in Papyrus' battle sprite.
>>719612105If you've ever seen Death Becomes Her, I'm going for an Ernest Melville vibe, except he's a chicken. The top is supposed to be like how birds will walk around with their wings folded.
>>719612394I'm not familiar with it, but I think what caused my thought was that the chest sticks out more on the top one so I can the impression of them hands on their hips saying "really now?". I think it looks better it just gives me an impression.
>>719608197i was kinda assuming that getting a soul gives undyne her undying stuff innately.since her undying form was a result of a DT boost, a soul (DT boost) would simply give her that boost as a baseline.also that "kanako phasing through walls" problem i mentioned earlier was actually pretty easy to solve. the highlighted option in the image had a default value of 3, bumping that up solved it and another problem completelyanyways if anyone else has any more green ideas, leave em here and i'll get to them when i wake up. they'll be in vrpg if this thread is dead.as for >>719581253, i've got something but im tired. will have yours then as well.
>>719612857clover and ceroba meeting after death following when the barrier is broken years after flawed pacifist. Ceroba was unable to move on with the weight of what she did after asking clover to shoot her, clover was unable to move on until now due to being a soul in a jar. Maybe a little reconciliation and walking into the light together?
>>719612625That's not at all the impression I was going for. He's supposed to be a nerdy wimp. Not the sassy type.
>>719613121maybe change the angle the lower wing is resting at to be a bit lower, or higher? with it feeling like he's puffing his chest out there and the hands in that exact place its probably just a few small adjustments from being more like what you want.
>>719612857How about a green of Ceroba finally breaking down that bulkhead in the steamworks that Axis closed on her, only to find that Axis killed Clover and shattered their soul during their fight?I imagine there'd be a mix of Ceroba being upset that she won't be able to use Clover's soul anymore, and grief over Clover having been torn apart by Axis.
>>719612857The main cast of UTY gathering around Clover's coffin after UT true pacifist, when Clover's soul as the cast thinks Clover's going to resurrect, only for Clover to say their goodbyes before fading away for good in front of their friends.And alternatively, a happy ending where they actually do come back to life.
>>719524224I'm not overly wild on doing a game about the previous humans. Doing something based on the human monster war would make for a way better prequel.
>>719615025>Doing something based on the human monster war would make for a way better prequel.Funny you say that, someone here is working on such a game (Oldentale)
>>719615025I'm working on fangame like that.
>>719615839>>719615872Huh, neat.Would work on it myself but im doing a different fangame already based on Touhou.
>page 10I guess we're done then
>>719618673Shame. Like fangame threads.
Take the advice from this pretty lady from a completely unrelated franchise that a few regulars from here just so happen to enjoy and let these pointless threads die.At least until a major fangame release happens. Then go wild.
>>719618673>>719619248its the middle of the night, anons.people are going to be asleep in the middle of the night.
>>719619248Anon, I'm dependent on these threads for my fangame development. Without these threads I lack the means and motive to continue working on my fangame.
>>719606107Probably a massive military checkpoint that separates humanity from monsters
As the OP of this thread, I shouldn't have listened when the people in the /vrpg/ said to make it on sunday. Really, it's better to make them on saturday, when there's still a good amount of weekend left to burn.Also when people aren't at work or sleeping.
>>719619248Yellow is a mind demon that does not let go, it just spirals into further mental illness and delusion
>>719620252NTA, but I agree. I thought UTY was pretty good when I played it around the time it first came out, but then a year later it reawakened in me like a sleeper agent and now I've gone completely insane over it.Good game.
>>719620779it just happened to me too this weekend, i had hardcore roba brainrot when it came out, it calmed down a few months later, but now i got full fox brainrot even worse than last time
>>719621146Oh god, you too?I swear, I've seen so many people utterly lose it over her, and then it got me too.What the hell is it about Ceroba that makes people go completely mad? I thought it was just typical fandom schizophrenia, but with how often I've seen it, and with how severely it hit me, I'm starting to think there may be something more at play here.
>>719621282i really can't put it into words, when she takes over your brain she takes over hard, she's such a fuck up but it makes me love her even more, it makes me want to comfort her and just be there with herand as i said earlier in this thread that love now spilled over to chujin too and i really don't fucking know why
>>719619639Why not talk about your fangame in detail, then?
>>719621428>when she takes over your brain she takes over hardGod, don't I fuckin' know it. I have had multiple dreams about waking up in the master bedroom of her house, with her apparently taking care of me for some kind of injury. She even refers to the time I spend outside of those dreams as being the actual dreams, and that eventually I'll just fully wake up in her world.Actual fucking insanity, like I've been indoctrinated.
>>719621491I think I've already said everything there is to say about Oldentale without delving into spoilers.
>>719621714i spent hours and hours almost daily after yellow came out and the following few months just daydreaming about confronting her on the rooftop at new home, then just hugging her tightly, trying to give her as much comfort as possible, sometimes it ended with her killing me, sometimes it ended with her starting to move on from the pain, sometimes it would just become an adventure to save kanako, but it would just be hours and hours of that ended up getting into ai text slop roleplay just to conceptualize that daydreaming further
>>719622018It would seem Ceroba's influence is simply too much for mortals to withstand.
>>719622575i just can't help but be drawn to her, just gives me an overwhelming need to help her and love her regardless of how much of an idiot she was
>>719623561Yeah, same, honestly.I'd practically be willing to do anything for her, even past the realm of reason.I still do have to make that comic about saving Kanako with the DT extractor for her...
>>719532363Berdley got jaundice...
>>719619248Counterpoint,Wawa
>>719619248If we stop making these threads all the fangame devs will turn into dust
>>719627556>Both DRYanons, Oldentaleanon, and every other dev the second we go one week without a thread
>>719620252Marriage with Martlet
>>719621829Fair. Hope you make it since I do really like the idea.
Are there any good Undertale fanfics/webcomics? Never really looked into those. But now I'm rather curious.
>>719631234Way back in the day I liked Flowerfell. However I haven't read it in years and thinking back, it probably was just edgeschlock with a side of Hanahaki Disease.
>>719632000I honestly wouldn't mind edgeslock if it was at least well done. Quite liked Caretaker Chara and that one is peak edge.
>>719621282>What the hell is it about Ceroba that makes people go completely mad?You know, I think I may gotten the inverse effect from you and that other guy. I liked Ceroba quite a lot back when the game first came out, but over time I've grown to like her less.Her dialogue in the Steamworks makes her by far the most developed and relatable character, and that's what initially drew me to her. But lately I've been thinking she was that earnest and open with Clover specifically so he would let his guard down and she could stab him in the back, and I think that's really messed up.It's likely intensified by the fact that many UTY fans effectively claim she can do no wrong and are super attached to the idea of Momroba. It rubs me the wrong way when people advocate a woman adopting a child whom she emotionally manipulated and premeditated to murder.Perhaps these flaws are what make her an interesting villain, or they make her deserving of a redemption arc? Perhaps, but what we got in the pacifist ending rubs salt in the wound more than helps the case for either.
>>719632753Man, you're going to love the fox mom in my Touhou fangame.
>>719611919Bottom right is closer to how Berdly and Martlet wing arms look
>You fall down into the underground instead of Clover.How would you get a happy ending?
>>719632827Hey, as long as I can exterminate this youkai without the game telling me I'm disgusting for doing my job as a youkai exterminator, it'll all be good.
>>719635312You mostly aren't. I mean, some people will judge you obviously but on average even people that actively try to oppose you will often admit you probably have a reason. Hell, as I have it planned right now the Genocide route isn't even a 100% bad ending and the Good ending can be obtained if you kill people.
I still think that it would've made the story less messy if it was only Chujin that died and Ceroba went to fulfill his legacy. I don't think the non-character that is Kanako was needed for Ceroba to spiral down into a grief cyclone and desperately make her husband's research mean something. I think it also would've made the unintentional(?) Gaster parallels with Chujin stronger (they both got consumed by their work and neglected themselves).
Failed pacifist but you actually killed Asgore would have been the perfect ending.
>>719638668That would mean that Toriel would become queen and wouldn't get couped by Undyne, but you'd fuck over Frisk in the process. I wish we got more endings. The neutral endings from Undertale were cinema.
>>719632753>It's likely intensified by the fact that many UTY fans effectively claim she can do no wrong and are super attached to the idea of Momroba.I've got the reverse of this, this problem seems to stem from Reddit and I guess Twitter and as I don't use either and only stick around here I don't get to see all that shit and instead all I hear about is how bad it is on shithole websites, and in turn how much better Martlet and Momlet are from crossposters from those websites, which led to these threads becomint super Martlet-centric which in turn make me dislike her completely when I originally didn't mind her at all.
>>719639998> but you'd fuck over Frisk in the process.How? He'll show up and, worst comes to worst, he gets to live in the Underground. After his death they can just claim his soul and use it to break the barrier.
>>719611919Top one looks better imo
>>719615025Conceptually it would make a great prequel, but idk if people would appreciate the concept.Like, most of the ut fandom is biased against the UT humans and think theyre le heckin evilerinos who locked up le heckin oppressed monsters, so in the end, most players will try their hardest to sabotage the war on the humans' side and spam mercy at every point, maybe even get a game over on purpose and pretend that monsterkind won or something because in their minds theyre the bad guys in that situation.
>>719639998Horrortale wouldnt happen in this scenario through
>>719642651Well Frisk doesn't want to stay in the Underground. He spends like 5 minutes with Toriel before leaving. Besides Clover would also free the trapped human souls and given that he lives to tell the the barrier would remain for a long time.
>>719643771I mean, Toriel herself claimed all they really needed was one soul. Frisk does seem to largely not want to stay in the underground though. But how much of a issue that is, we don't know. Hell, there might just be another boss monster that is near death they could use.
>>719632753To be fair Ceroba does tell Clover that she genuinely enjoyed their time in the Steamworksafter sparing her. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think there's alsoa moment or two where she's acting chummy with Clover before snapping herself out of it which for what it's worth gave me the impression that those instances of her opening up were less a deliberate attempt at manipulation and more so a result of her unconsciously bonding with Clover.
>>719644324she does say that right before the fight with her
>>719644234I just think that Clover being alive throws a huge wrench. I can't imagine him just letting Frisk convince humanity to shatter the barrier with him around.
>>719632753I wonder if it the beta concept of her character could have worked with her being irredeemable and the one monster you have a moral obligation to kill
>>719619248Nine Sols is my GOTY, I truly believe it’s near perfect, and everyone ITT should play it
>>719642449I think there are enough Ceroba apologists here for me to still get worn out by her despite this being primarily Martlet territory (though I'd argue it's closer to a 60-40 split). But yeah, it is indeed more endemic of the greater fandom, which I also limit my interactions with.>>719644324You're remembering correctly. I conveniently forgot about that lol. But I still think there is a degree of emotional manipulation here despite genuinely bonding with the kid, and the fact she's genuinely growing to care about him makes her betrayal all the more vile to me.It reminds me of real-life domestic abuse, where the abuser often still has some degree of love towards the victim. Which is probably why Momroba rubs me the wrong way>>719645756I think I'd actually prefer what we got. Beta Ceroba was borderline comically evil (although I actually really like the idea of a UT enemy you can't spare, because for once it's the wrong thing to do). I'm at least glad the game itself doesn't seem to fault you too much if you kill Ceroba: Starlo and Martlet make fairly compelling cases for and against, and it's up to you to make of what you've done.
>>719645756Maybe, but it certainly would be boring.
>>719647730Im a bird truther forever, but I also give ceroba a lot of slack because her situation WAS fucked, and she absolutely suffered for it. They did a good job showing the grief in her sprite in the early part of the battle and the end. Its grief she brought on herself but also her retarded mistakes likely would have never come to pass if she wasnt sealed underground with a dead husband in the first place, it makes it easier to have sympathy on her. Compare to toriel who is a compelling character but its easier to level judgement against her considering the way events play out and her reaction to them. Ceroba begging for death happens at absolute rock bottom so to me at least it doesnt feel like she gets off "scott free" or anything if she gets a chance to do better.
>>719647730>60-40 splitMaybe right now in this thread but we had nearly a year of it being a 90-10 split. Last year around tyis time you even post anything positive about Ceroba without having someone butt in about how there was too much Momroba on leddit or get some 10 spergposts about Martlet's breasts. It was really annoying and it made me resent Martlet because I already found her kind of bland and now you could only talk about her or Kanako.
>>719651309>Last year around this time if you even postedHad a fucking hard stroke there.
>>719615025Please have it take place in the Bronze Age it's such an unutilized setting and makes the most sense.
>>719643607The humans were merciful by imprisoning the monsters rather than killing them all, which they could have easily done. Not that it matters to retards with an out-group preference.>>719653248I concur.
They hated him because he spoke the truth
What kind of content? Like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6I2WQT3zE
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>>719643607The basic idea I have is based largely on Fox and the Hound. You play as a random human warrior, noted for his unusual strength, who is also a former childhood friend of Asgore. Both of you are largely being pushed by forces outside of your control into doing battle even if neither one of you really wants to. I would try to make the conflict rather grey, with both sides having a lot of good and bad eggs. True pacifist route obviously ends with you averting the war altogether. So, I doubt many people will have much of a issue with it.>>719653248If I were to do this I would try mimic the aesthetic shown in the opening. Which, granted, isn't EXACTLY Bronze age.
>>719644770> can't imagine him just letting Frisk convince humanity to shatter the barrier with him around.How so? Even if it's not true pacifist, and he does have to kill Asgore. Clover is still probably pretty sympathetic towards monsters.
>>719647730>although I actually really like the idea of a UT enemy you can't spare, because for once it's the wrong thing to doI'm honestly not sure if I want to do that in my fangame. I mean, the thing is based on Touhou so a case can be made that plenty of characters are well and truly past the point where redemption is possible. But I do feel the player should have the choice to do it and still get a good ending. ...At the same time, part of the point of the true ending is that there ARE some people who are well and truly beyond redemption and that people need to accept that instead of believing they are redeemable because they are charming, funny, hot, or even have sympathetic backstories.
>>719656071All that sympathy goes down the drain the moment he sees that the 5 missing humans were murdered and kept in a state of purgatory for God knows how long.
>>719656946Again, he doesn't seem to mind that much if he doesn't kill Ceroba. Considering he joins them.
>>719657036But he has to kill Ceroba to get to Asgore. It's how you get the flawed pacifist ending.
>>719657229I get that. What I'm saying is that I find it hard to believe he would have that much of a change in personality just because of one kill.
>>719656559But one of the worst neutral endings you can get in UT is achieved by sparing certain characters. You can show mercy to someone that is far beyond redemption but what is the point if they are going keep burning down orphanages.
>>719657445I agree. That's why I'm unsure of how far to take it.The characters that I struggle with are the Youkai sages. Okina and Yukari are well and truly beyond redemption and though I intend to give the latter a sympathetic backstory it's still pointed out she's a absolutely monstrous person. 2 of the 3 main characters also utterly despise her. There are a few others, like Mamizou or Yamame, that I struggle with as well but it's a bit harder to justify them being mandatory kills.
>>719657267It's not that murdering Asgore would change his personality. It's the knowledge that everyone is aboard with the deaths of 5 humans and another 2 with the ultimate goal of waging war against mankind.
>>719658045Been a while since I played yellow, but doesn't he know that beforehand?
>>719658368No he goes in the hopes that he can find them. Pic related is in the intro. Clover loses it after falling down into the Dark Ruins, but can get it back via mail.
>>719659153I mean he finds it out during the game, before meeting Asgore.
>>719658368He learns at least midway through that they currently have 5 souls from the question guy im pretty sure
>>719581253gunna be honest, i usually treat him as a bit more mature than a kid but i genuinely cant see a child as being mature enough to have a meltdown like this.... and none of the alternate scenarios i think of really play out that well in my head.sorry man, but if i ever get a good idea for it it'll be in the /vrpg/ thread.
>>719659324The only way he can find that out is from that one miner that requires him to answer two question that he has no possibility of knowing.
>>719650556I get what you're saying. It might help to draw comparisons with Asriel, both of whom I view very similarly. They absolutely didn't deserve their suffering, but that's zero justification for the evil ways they've dealt with their traumas.>>719651309Ah, I wasn't frequenting the threads a whole lot a year ago. I didn't remember that being the case, but I doubt you're wrong, and I can totally see why you'd get so tired of Martlet.If it's any consolation I don't like Momlet either, I think her dynamic with Clover works better as an elder sister lol>>719657829I see what you're getting at. A potential idea is that letting the truly twisted live, but otherwise serve intense punishments may serve as narratively satisfying while still reinforcing Undertale's message that there are alternatives to lethal force. But given the setting of Gensokyo and the freaks of nature that inhabit it, it might just be impossible to pull that off.>spoilerI'm curious to see where you'll go with Yukari. I find the whole "she's an older Merry who travelled back in time" thing to be rather overdone and unsatisfying, despite being one of the likeliest possibilities.
>>719660251>A potential idea is that letting the truly twisted live, but otherwise serve intense punishments may serve as narratively satisfying while still reinforcing Undertale's message that there are alternatives to lethal forceYeah, I might do something like that. I mean, Okina is obviously losing her brainwashed child slaves regardless of if you kill her.>SpoilerI'm not 100% sure. Maribel is a obvious route but I do agree it's overdone.
>>719643607What I did for Oldentale was make it so you play as a monster. The entire game is spent on the monster side of the lines, with the only mention of humans being from stories told by the few who survived encounters with them.
>>719657829honestly you could probably do a canon neutral.
>>719660741You know, I'm also sort of wondering: for these "lost cause" cases, is it gonna be where you can choose to kill or spare them, but regardless of your choice you can still get the best ending so long as they don't go unpunished? That's what I'm gathering so far, but I could be reading it completely wrong.
>>719612954>the barrier had been shattered>asriel let the human souls go, monsters came back to the surface, yadah yadah.>clover's soul faded as it drifted away>moments later, he was standing in front of ceroba>"...clover?">"CLOVER! i... god. its all my fault isnt it?">"if i never tried to finish the serum... maybe things could've gone differently. maybe we could've convinced you to stay. maybe-">clover hugged ceroba>...>"y-you forgive me? even after...">...>"thank you, clover>the two of them faded as they moved on to the afterlife
>Undertale Yellow thread #257>Who better? Martlet or Ceroba?
>>719662382If you mean having the neutral ending fit into canon, that is my intention. >>719662401> is it gonna be where you can choose to kill or spare them, but regardless of your choice you can still get the best ending so long as they don't go unpunished? That is more or less the idea. There are also certain characters who I wouldn't call 100% lost causes, but are still morally suspect enough that I would find it rather odd to make killing them lock you out of the best ending.
>>719653248In Oldentale, I went for a late stone age/ early bronze time period. The monsters are all over the place visually and technically since magic, and a sizeable portion of your race being ageless will do that.
>>719662809Things will change once more fangames come out, we just have to WAIT
>>719662908That makes sense.Have to ask: Are you playing as the human in the intro?
>>719663059No. You play as this bird.
>>719663315Would be interesting if you are serious. Games where you play as actual monsters are rare.No, Deltarune doesn't count.
>>719663374I'm serious. That's Racter, he's the player the character.
>>719662809it's obviously ceroba
>>719663476Alright, pretty intrigued then. Hope you finish it.
>>719662908Hatti bros we are so back
>>719663476>Racter>Chara >CharaRacter BRAVO KOJIMA
>>719663476>>719664178Honestly if that's intentional then I dig the word play, its not like Toby didn't do similar shit like DE-TERMINATION
>>719662809its ceroba
>>719664098Which game is this? It looks like CK3 or Imperator Rome.
>>719664632It's the Bronze Age Reborn mod for CK3 and Imperator Rome. The closes thing we'll ever get to a modern game set in that era.
>>719664803I mean, there was Pharaoh Total War as well.I really liked that game but I know most didn't care for it, sadly.
>>719662757Im a huge sucker for "clover comes back" stories, but this is a nice little bittersweet moment
>>719662809Martlet
>>719613772>ceroba broke through the bulkhead>C: "finally! clover im h-">ceroba watched as axis shattered his soul.>C: "CLOVER!">ceroba rushed over to clover's corpse>C: "no no no!">C: "axis! how could you">A: "IT WAS EASY. I SHOT HIM.">C: "THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT!">A: "WELL HE IS GONE NOW, ONE LESS HUMAN IN THE UNDERGROUND IS BETTER FOR ALL OF US.">C: "NO ITS NOT!">A: "SOUNDS LIKE YOU MUST HAVE CARED ABOUT HIM. YOU CAN BE NEXT SINCE YOU ARE ALSO AN INTRUDER!">C: "WHAT? ITS BECAUSE YOU DESTROYED HIS SOUL.">A: "SO YOU DID NOT CARE ABOUT HIM. AND ARE ONLY UPSET BECAUSE I DESTROYED THE SOUL">C: "no- kinda- its complicated!">A: "OH WELL, GOODBYE.">before axis could charge his attack ceroba knocked him into the molten liquid below.
>>719634635Do I have all my metaknowledge of the game and of the original game?I'm gonna see if I can strike a deal with Flowey so we can both get what we want. He wants the souls and to be free, and I want to help Ceroba.A mutually beneficial partnership.
>>719614208as for this one, will let the idea ferment for a bit. but thats gotta go in /vrpg/ because this thread is dying soon.
>>719664992>Pharaoh Total WarNever mention that game again
>>719665302>Do I have all my metaknowledge of the game and of the original game?I'll leave that up to you.
>>719664331>>719664178That's intentional. I tried to mimic Toby's style of word play. I have at least a couple triple entendres in the game as well.
>>719665365I will defend Dynasties until the day I die.
final
im overdosing on roba
>>719665370Well, if I have all my metaknowledge, and I'm also the same age as I am now, I might not even need to try and work with Flowey, since I'd probably overpower him in DT anyway. Still, better to at least have him on my side instead of working against me anyway.I'd probably do most of what Clover did on their journey, but I'd probably try and see if I can defuse the whole situation with Ceroba before that all comes to a boiling point, ideally as smoothly as possible.If I succeed, then I just have to worry about surviving long enough for Frisk to fall into the underground, which should only take about a year. If I've talked things out with Flowey, maybe I can have him absorb the other six human souls, and Frisk's soul instead of mine, and then he can break the barrier.Or I could just give up my soul after working things out with Ceroba and hope that whole resurrection thing pans out, that works too.
Damn, nearly two whole days.When's the last time a UTY thread went that long here?
>>719666348Didn't the last one went for this long
>>719665849Why do you have to die on the dumbest possible hill
>>719666545Didn't think so, thought that one only went for a day and some change.
Hey, if the pregnancy drawanon's still here, did you ever end up picking what requests you're gonna draw next time? I'm kinda curious to see what you'll do next.
>>719660251Something big that yellow got right in its ending is leaving the question of if ceroba was redeemable up to choice, much like asriel though asriels was handled in a more "quiet moment" after everything went down, but still it doesnt presume to tell you that they need be forgiven, it juat hands the reigns to you at the right time. You can even say she deserved punishment absolutely, but the court had the option of showing mercy regardless which makes that one of the last meaningful moments in that route
oh yeah, one DRY green i just had before the thread sinks>halloween>cole and kanako had a great idea>they would make outfits based off of their dark world forms>they presented their outfits to sadie on halloween>S: "are you two serious?">C: "yeah">S: "do you even comprehend how bad of an idea this is?">K: "not really no.">S: "there's a few people that saw you down there that dont know it was all real. and you're pretty much telling them that it was">C: "it'll be fiiine. prophetic dreams and all that!">S: "rosa">K: "eh?">S: "rosa will see you.">C: "ok yeah but-">S: "you both know much material that'd give her for the relentless shipping">both cole and kanako let out some eehhhs and half coherent explanations before a paper airplane flew between them>cole picked it up>C: "it says 'i already know' with rosa's signature">S: "of course she does...">C: "well since she already knows that means there's absolutely no downside to us doing this">K: "it'd take me all night to wash out the pink hair dye anyways.">S: "NO!">but the two already left>laughing came from a nearby rooftop>S: "you suck you know that right?">R: "hah, i know."
>>719666623Mostly cause I think the game had good ideas and I'm more angry at Sega than the developers who, despite everything, clearly tried.In-between Three Kingdom and Pharaoh I see the greatest Total War game ever made. One that can actually rival Warhammer despite lacking overly fantastical elements. It's just that the development process was such a mess that the end result are two games that feel like they had to learn the same lesson twice for no reason other than the left hand not talking to the right hand. I get enough of that from being into Game Workshop, thank you very much.
>>719634635I'll cheat my way into saving Kanako.
>>719667013>Something big that yellow got right in its ending is leaving the question of if ceroba was redeemable up to choiceNot to bring it back to my own fangame, but that is why I'm so anxious for being too strict with my requirements for getting the best ending. It feels cheap to have a game where a lot of the point is questioning to what extent certain characters are evil only to make the choice for you.
>>719667357I think an important angle is to remember the theming of the story and how those choices play into or against that theming. Undertales biggest two endings play into that "walk not the middle ground" puzzles theming, and it kind of follows that line all the way through. You dont need to follow the same line but when you have something kind of structuring the road there it will probably make sense when its reasonable for a choice to make the ending better or worse, like if the choices are contradicting the heart of that ending in some way. Flawed pacifist is a quality ending, but its also bitter in how it follows a line right up until the finale and breaks
Goodbye thread
>>719667243That's what pisses me off. There could have been a good game but it never was.
You know, this wasn't actually a terribly eventful thread. Lived long, but not too much really went down over it's lifespan.Not bad, but it needed some more spice.
>>719668112like what, fat kanako?
>>719668156Nah, something new'd be better.
>>719668112I'm just glad we didn't have to descend to talking about reddit OC's
>>719660251It wasn't just that I got tired of Martlet but I just got tired of seeing the same shit posted about Ceroba, they both came in packs so I associate the two.
>>719667728>I think an important angle is to remember the theming of the story and how those choices play into or against that themingYeah. I kind of want to talk about this in more detail with some people, but most of my real world friends that are into Touhou are busy, and I feel revealing the entire story on a website like this is a poor idea. Still, what I can say, is that thematically a lot of the story is very much about the nature of Youkai and the question of if they are irredeemably evil, but also the mental and spiritual cost for actually trying to wipe out a entire race of sapient creatures. Think the old myth that somebody who kills a 1000 yokai becomes one, though ultimately less literal than that. >But when you have something kind of structuring the road there it will probably make sense when its reasonable for a choice to make the ending better or worseReally, I hope a lot of the choices start making sense when I actually put them in the game. With the way I have it structured the moment that definitively decides the ending only happens very late anyway, so with a bit of luck determining which one to keep should be a fairly natural choice.
>>719668213welp, im out of ideas.
>>719668234Hm, good point.Well, happy tuesday everyone, see you all next time.
Ah yes, the Roba.
