Thanks for ruin project zomboid BUILD 42
I think the developers are doing good enough of a job ruining their game.Fucking retarded lazy hacks. Hope someone comes along and makes a better game so they end up on the street. Fucking sóy devs.
>>719524903Why is it ass
>>719526875multiplayer broke
>>719524903>star citizen in development for a gorillion years>SCAM NOBODY BUY IT MFW SCAM CITIZEN>zomboid is in development for a gorillion +1 years, longer than SC>poor indie devs, 15 years in development? thats not laziness thats dedication please small studio plz understand
>>719527983Zomboid's studio isn't being propped up with almost a billion dollars worth of funding.
>>719528342and zomboid isnt making an overly-ambitious game, no excuse for it to take over 15 years.
>>719527983Zomboid isn't asking people to buy $1500 ships that aren't in the game yet.
>>719529398I don't know shit about game dev or how many people they have working on the game so I can't speak from a place of authority on this.
>>719527983Isn't it true tho?
I still can't get over how asinine the skill learning mechanic is. This is not fun.
>>719524903Finish the fucking build
>>719529683Now you get to do it with Cockblowing 3 and Dildomaking IV so you can make Wooden Pole after 19 hours
>>719529683I watched a video of someone playing the game and the whole game looks incredibly boring and annoying.
>>719530031Most of the actual gameplay value is the logistics you do in your head planning everything out in advance. Once you've got your base completed and secured, the game is actually incredibly boring.
>>719529505still a scam
>>719528342Zomboid also isn't supposed to be the most comically ambitious game ever made.It's a fucking zomboid head smashing simulator and they still can't get that bit right. After 15 years.
>>719524903>add 1(one) fancy door open/close animation>game runs at 5 fps now, can't request a refund anymorelol lemmyworst game dev EVEROG VIDYA SCAMMERS
>>719524903>Devs ban you if you make a mod that surpasses other people's modsLol, lmao
wtf are you talking about, I just made a stone knife after 20 hours that can kill 4 zombies before breaking, just 200 more hours of farming and i can make a knife that's as good as one i can loot from a house in 5 seconds.peak gameplay
>>719530689The game's balance is retarded, you can spend an IRL month getting the skills to make a sword ingame.Or, you know, make some fire-hardened spears within an hour that'll actually do a better job at level 1 lmao.
>>719530753I think the spear thing is a bug, but still, balancing the game off of month long empty servers is retarded.
>>719530834The spear thing is 100% intentional, the developers unironically just can't do maths.It's why they botched the fall-damage update and why cows still only have like 3000 calories instead of...A million or so.
>>719530689>>719530753The new crafting stuff is for people who want to roleplay and do modded/survivalist runs. Its not used for typical Zomboid gameplay, but to give you new ways to play. You could argue this is a waste of time compared to just adding more normal Zomboid goals though.
>>719530889If animals gave you their real amount of food then survival would be trivialized because most runs would have infinite food after killing 1-2 random cows they found. If anything they need to nerf animals even more.
>>719531659>but to give you new ways to play.>all weapon animations are largely the same>still looking at green bar go up at the end of the day
that one week where the human npc armageddon mod idk the actual name i just watched some streams was more popular than the base game was hilarious because you know the gay retard dev was seething his game wasnt being played properly
Problem with Zomboid is it offers a lot of cool base building opportunities but no real threat. You can get mods like wandering zombies and starving zombies but then it makes the early game way to fucking difficult with the amount that shows up at your base each morning.
>>719531715>If animals gave you their real amount of food then survival would be trivialized because most runs would have infinite food after killing 1-2 random cows they found. If anything they need to nerf animals even more.Tough shit Lemmy, you said you wanted the game to be realistic. Fucking own it or retract your faggoty design decisions and make the game fun.
They REALLY should have focused on NPCs over this stupid shit. Gangs holding down key loot spots, maybe they let you join, after you prove your worth. Maybe they gun you down. Raiders who will find your base if you stay in it too long, and try to sneak in when they think you're asleep. Maybe they don't even just kill you if they catch you unawares but make you their new camp slave wearing cuffs as you do their bidding. Last Men on Earth who are so paranoid and scared they shoot on sight anything they see moving. So much potential for the game is locked behind just putting in NPCs
>>719532353Anon are you fucking retarded? The ingame combat system is so janky that well-experienced players will get bitten by glitches and bugs.You think a retarded AI is going to last an ingame week unless you give it massive cheats like immunity to the infection or super high attack speeds?
>>719524903What did they fuck up this time?
>>719532537Barricading now needs to be done through a complicated build menu instead of just right clicking the window and selecting 'barricade'.
>>719532353they need to revamp combat before adding npcs. can you imagine having to melee human npcs with a knife?
>>719524903Why not link to the video, NPC?
>>719532537pls gib byzaboo empress gf...
>GUYS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON NPCS IN SECRET FOR TEN YEARS>LOOK AT THIS NOT FAKE AND REALLY REAL VIDEO*4 years into the beta build of b42*lmao
>>719524903How they don't have the most basic feature of the game honed in at this point is beyond me>play this heap of shit last beta>had a decent run going playing carefully after 40-50 hours>clearing out an area, zombie infront of me is tripping over and was basically on the ground>go to swing to smash his head>instantly cancels his falling animation to bite me and end my run>look up footage of the latest beta and watch the same thing happen to a streamer
>>719533132Yeah the combat can be a bit janky. You would think baiting zombies to go over fences so you can stomp them is clever. Then your stomp misses for whatever reason, the zombie swipes you and makes you fall over right into the hands of another.
>>719533232>The zombies are barely mobile shamblers>Until they climb over a fence where they can now lunge 8 fucking feet to knock you on your ass>DIS IZ REALISMS -Lemmy
>>719524903If they're not working on npc then just focus on multiplayer aspect I had 300hrs in pz and out of those i maybe only played single player for 5-6hrs
>>719524903I'm so glad they've added ore processing, iron smelting, leather tanning instead of bettering literally any other aspects of the mid to end game progression
>>719530889>refactor fall damage calculations>don't bother to test it at all>can jump out of the 4th floor of a building naked and not even take a scratchle meow
>>719533615Look chud it's realistic that walking through the woods might lacerate your jugular, but falling from a skyscraper is non-lethal!
>>719527859b42 has a multiplayer mod, it just works. I genuinely don't understand these people, during 10 years the game had no multiplayer, b42 is not even out yet, and they're complaining about missing multiplayer>>719530753the new crafting system was designed so you could go inawood day one and still be able to enjoy most of the game. Once you figure it out, it's mostly really easy
>>719530031it's technically an rpg, but no matter your progression, you'll always be in fear of getting hit by a zombie. in zomboid, one hit can result in death, which is the lost of you character you invested 100+ hours in.
>>719530528game actually runs better on b42 and it looks better thanks to the new lighting
>>719531885in apocalypse (default mode for b42), the zombie count has really gone up, they're also much smarter and spot you from farther. Also, due to meta-events, even if you build a base in the forest, zombies will eventually wander to it, and before you know it they can destroy your house
>>719529683you know you can change the exp multiplier right?you don't even need a mod for it, it's just right there in the game
>>719527983Can you even actually play Star Citizen? At least Zomboid kinda has a game, stuff to do, loot, build, kill. Even if the Devs are adding basements & farm animals instead of a story.
>go to supermarket >get 10000 cans>go to warehouse>get sledgehammer>take out stairs of any house >make rope out of window to get in and out You have now beat the game and can turtle in your base forever. The only obstacle is that you'll get bored and want to leave to fight zomboids
>>719538186can you actually beat emaciation with just cans
>>719537960>muh story
>>719524903>I always get bored playing this game I'll make a simple objective for myself, I'll craft a blade by my own hands>mfw I discover what do I need to do to craft a single blade that's even worse than the average macheteWhy does it feel like they design this game with multiplayer in mind but then you have to wait 20 minutes to read a fucking book?
>>719530753Tell me it’s not realistic.
>>719538186>>719538186Psychology and mental wellbeing needs to be a mechanic just like fatigue or hunger. We can make characters hurt and kill the player character in the physical ways, they need to be able to hurt and even die mentally and psychologically as well. If we starve them they starve and eventually die, if we force them to stay in a room indefinitely, they should mentally starve go mad. That solves the end game of doing nothing and "winning", the endless stream of needs and wants that keep us going
>>719524903It seems the core problem of the frustration with Zomboid is that devs have zero vision or do not communicate what their vision is, to the g@mer it makes them look like they are planning features week to week. New systems constantly prop up left and right and older ones that still haven't been fleshed out are abandoned or at least seem to be. Remember when the big thing of B42 was animals and animal husbandry, and then the focus shifted towards the crafting overhaul? Remember the mixing fluids shit that was talked about in a couple of devblogs and serves literally zero purpose in normal gameplay? Remember that stealth is still ass, combat still has you whiffing at critical times, you still get scratched through 3 layers of clothes, zombie migration is still fucked, there's no roving hordes (present in even Romero movies)? Remember that zombie spawning inside closed off buildings without windows doesn't happen (can't bait them out) without a mod? Remember that the UI is still dogshit and every action from planting seeds to building things is tedious as fuck?Zomboid is a detailed simulation of zombie survival and I give it props for that, there's nothing like it. However if you asked me if I wanted to have a fun zombie survival experience I'd pick any of the less detailed survivals out there like 7DTD, Zed Zone, Invisible Strain that have less features but know what they want to be.
>>719524903>what if we made the game more unfun and tedious
>>719531715Why not balance it from the get go with NPCs in mind instead of doing this? Once there's the ability to form communities one butchered cow even with realistic amount of meat will not provide a lot of breathing room for the community regarding food.
>>719539443That's the problem you get when you have a retarded Ideas Guy in charge of anything.
>balance the game around multiplayer>in a build that has no multiplayer>add stupid shit like knapping no one aksed for, feature and scope creep >game is only "realistic" when it annoys the player, you will get scratches if you go through a bush but zombies can bite through fucking kevlar
>>719524903>is that a heckin PIC NIC>IN MY ZOMBIE APOCALPSE >AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
2 more weeks until multiplayer bros
>>719533232Baiting zombies over a fence was a good way to cheese them by repeatedly stomping their heads as they fell, which is why we got shit like zombies lunging as they fall or wooden fences directly breaking if too many fall over them at the same timeNo fun allowed
>other EA games>6 months without updates: "game is abandoned do NOT buy" *posts negative review*>Zomboid>3 years between B41 stable and B42 unstable, releases without MP and all the features>*crickets*I have to give it to Lemmy, he really managed to foster a solid core of "hardcore" fans. Or it's all newfags who discovered the game with B41, who knows.
>>719539373>Take claustrophobia>Go into closet to scare yourself>Leave the closet>Character's boredom is fixed
>>719540216based claustrophobia enjoyer
I want your honest opinion, chances of this game releasing before the end of the decade? It will have been in dev for nearly 20 years, enough the crush the spirit of anyone who actually wants to get shit done.
>>719527983I can't believe you're making me side with Zomboid's dev but your comparison is beyond retarded.
>>719540216I like the way you think.
>>719540547Indie Stone will release the game in 1.0 before NPCs just like 7dtd, they'll say they will add them later and the game is already worth the money anyway you can screencap this
>>719537669>deviate from the default settingsnot what the developers intended, and it's a form of cheating.
>>719542989Anything accessible by the player without extraordinary means is developer intention.
>>719542989Changing the default settings is the only way to make the game enjoyable, unless you think muscle strain after two kills is fun. Says a lot about TIS philosophy too, combat is too easy so instead of making it deadlier or introducing new moves/zombie type they just add another layer of tedium.
>>719527983>>poor indie devs, 15 years in development? thats not laziness thats dedication please small studio plz understandno-one says this retard
>>719524903Am I the only one who hates NPCs? I wanna be alone (or on a multiplayer server), a load of NPCs running around or setting up shops ruin it for me. Now I'll have to turn them off rather than just being able to play on vanilla and multiplayer servers will always have them on.
>>719544460people on reddit (my favourite site) do
>>7195423510% chance they do this, they will lose all of their accumulated goodwill (contrary to what you read here, it's overwhelmingly positive)
>>719524903Bump
>>719524903Why do these devs only work twice a year?At least Scam Citizen devs treat it like a full time job.
>>719529746The only real terrible thing with the new crafting skills is that they added too many and needed to roll them into eachother. There are like 4 skills they added that could have just been rolled under existing skills. Absolutely retarded because skilling is already the tedious backbone of the game.
>>719536835Zomboid devs can you make mornings have a better yellow light to them, and evenings as well? The game is too ugly from the way sunlight looks naturally.
>>719525158Game is 12 years old. Devs already made all the money possible from it.
A feel like a lot of this game's problems are not laziness but bad engine and spaghetti code. The problem is that engine change or code refactor was to be done 5 years ago, now they're stuck with what they have and it will be a long and painful dev.Or maybe I'm inventing excuses and they're really fucking terrible at their job (possible when mods like Inventory Tetris exist)
>>719525158>Fucking retarded lazy hacksI honestly wonder what a typical day at the office must look like for the PZ devs. They do so fucking little they must just be jerking each other off and scrolling reddit for 80 percent of the day.
>>719531715This anon speaks the tru tru. Make the game an autistic milsim but balance for having to branch out at least a little bit for things.
>>719531659It's good to HAVE in the game but the problem is it took so much dev time and still needs a secondary overhaul to fix the Godawful UI, skills NEEDING to be condensed, and balancing. Which will also take forever if they even manage to get around to it.
>>719533232>Yeah the combat can be a bit jankyIt's even worse. It's repetitive.>need to clear area >run around in circles yelling to attract a horde of zombies clipping into each other>throw molotovs or slowly melee them >repeat 50 times for every new heavily populated area you want to exploreMight be acceptable if they actually made functioning stealth
>Do tutorial>Ok seems fun>Start actual playthrough>Get dumped in house and giant wiki of info pops up before you can do anything>Try to read through some of it>Game isn't paused>Zombies kill you while reading through the massive info dumpMaybe if the game releases some day I will give it another try
>>719547846You can pause the game broski. But if you want a cohesive zombie survival sim there are games that while not as complex provide a more fun experience. Zomboid feels hollow after ~50 hours of gameplay and B42 is the worst time to get into the game considering the amount of tweaks and mods to make it bearable.
>>719538730Week One mod is probably what that anon is getting at. As well as it'd be COOL to "find out" the cause of the outbreak by delving into the Military Base or something, being able to radio it out of the zone or something.The Fall of the world in the game needs to be spread to the end of the first or second month, not two weeks. This would facilitate npc gameplay and out of map dynamic events.
>cant bang zombie womenWhat a fucking piece of shit.
>>719547952You didn't get the point, it commited a cardinal sin of gaming. It gives you miles of text to read through while enemies are killing you. It drops a instruction manual on your lap to read but doesn't pause the game. Maybe this was different in earlier versions but for a new player its fucking jarring. I like complexity, I dont like losing my character because the game doesn't handle basic functions normally
>>719539443Great post anon. As an aside, roving hoards/migration doesn't bother me too much because unless they really put their balls to the walls to make sometype of SUPER lightweight way to simulate stuff far far off screen (which is resource intensive) it's not gonna happen. I'm not too upset with those failures. The zombie spawning in houses thing is almost inexcusable, ya. The problem with that I bet is a car driving past a road will cause ALL the zombies in the houses to walk outside leading to weirdly deserted neighborhoods. They could add a "sound dampening" effect to houses but we already know that would be a odyssey for them.
>>719538648Ya anon have you not played the game? It's based off calories but at the end of the day if you eat random food like 3 times a day you don't have a weight issue.
>>719548152>miles of text to readlike what? the game is really bare, there are no stories or combat logs to read.the whole point of combat is to feel really dangerous, even after 200+ hrs into a run. the game is more about planning, logistics and preparing and tactics rather than actual combat skills. even if you're really good at kiting hordes, the game won't forgive you for a single mistake. For forgetting to feed your character, or not carrying the proper aid to help you last longer from strains/sleep deprivation
>>719548348calories are a real issues to maintain, after winter, most buildings won't have loot anymore, you can sustain on meat (fishing, farming and hunting/trapping), but it won't give you the calories to survive. if you don't spend at least one month prepping for winter (e.g preserving calorie-dense food) then you'll enter spring in a state not suited for combat. your weak character will have to spend a lot of time regaining their lost strength and you can get caught up in sleep deprivation spirals
What is the definitive and exhaustive list of Zomboid alternatives? I'd like to play a survival game that will be completed in my lifetime.
>>719548412>Game starts>Before you can do anything a guide pops up in screen>Game still runs in the background and you get killed while readingDo you understand now?
>>719540214kek its funny too when other zombie games release they complain about updates and then you check their profile and see they have hundreds of hours on zomboid
>>719540552>both games have devs that pretend to work on the game and charge money for early access idk seems the same to me one you pay 20 bucks and the other 45 bucks or more still a scam
>>719547676considering it started off as a learning project for a bunch of nerds with zero game dev experience and they haven't changed the engine in 14 years, it must be an absolute horrorshow under the hoodI do not envy all the Russian coders they hired to unfuck this thing
>>719548893I don't know about the rest but just a heads up 7 Days to Die is technically released but the NPCs, bosses and story quests are only coming in 2027. It's technically not feature complete but the devs decided to call what they have 1.0.
>>719524903I remember like 10 years ago that the devs said they would never add crafting like this to the game. Stuff like furnaces and smelting metal had no place in the game they said but fuck that i guess.
>>719526875Muscle fatigue ruin juggernaut melee.>But le realismWhy don't the zombies decay then? Realism in zombie games is not fun.I am starting to think that I never liked Zomboid. Scavenging around and building your base sounds cool until it's one hit deaths + permadeath + glacial progression, long grind, watching green bars and no endgame goal. This is one of those games that is fun to think about playing but lame when you actually play it
>>719524903WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED A MAGAZINE TO USE GENERATORS? WHO THE FUCK CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE ONE?
>>719550443>Hello Lemmy I would like to fix this generator with random scrap I got from dismantling watches>awww you're so sweet>Hello Lemmy I would like to sharpen my axe head to restore its durability>HELLO HUMAN RESOURCES??!
>>719542989Autism.
>>719530031That's how it's been for years.
why do they keep adding pointless bloat nobody asked for like ragdolls and animal genetics instead of finish the most basic gameplay mechanics like first aid?
>>719550705Feature creep or plain retardation, call it. (It would also go a long way if they communicated on things in advance, no mentions of ragdoll before their stealth release)Either they are playing 4D chess and they have a clear endgame in mind regarding how they want the game to play and look for 1.0 or they are just winging it
Multi-million dollar idea>Project Zomboid remade in a 3d engine with FPS perspectiveI think they're retarded not picking up Unity and doing that right now.
>>719547689>make pixel art>scrap it for a 3d model later anyway>make new recipe>scrap it for more complex recipe later anyway>make new sound design>scrap it for new soundscape by outsourced sound specialists (3 friends of the devs with microphones)
>>719551102https://store.steampowered.com/app/1857950/VEIN/
>>719551173was about to post this
>>719551173golly. that is pretty much how I imagined it
>>719548946probably not. you did a 4chan cardinal sin by specifying the tutorial in your first post and never again, so morons only reading one post in the quote chain think you mean normal gameplay
>>719550196fucking classic early access move right there.thanks, minecraft
>>719551173righto
>>719548893>What is the definitive and exhaustive list of Zomboid alternatives?My favorite alternative is state of decay 2.
>>719550330>add blacksmithing early on>scrap it because it doesn't fit the modern post-apocalypse theme and metal is too plentiful>lemmy plays a modded minecraft modpack once>turn the game's direction by 180 degrees and starts adding pointless skills like pottery and knapping>all to appease the 0.1% of players that wants to play on a forest map with zero resources and zombiesthey never had a plan, Lemmy has been winging it for the past 14 years
>>719551681kek I completely forgot all the crafting bloat came from TIS playing modded mineshart when the big B42 addition was originally just animals
>>719536667the only reason to play is mp
>>719524903They need to ignore multiplayer and just finish the game.
>>719553851Multiplayer is their bread and butter, it's what made the game sell gangbusters for B41 stable. They hope to get another similar surge of players for B42 stable (they won't).
>>719554670Multiplayer fags get the rope.
>>719525158>sóyBrown hands typed this
>>719530407No its a life survival autism simulator with zombies
>>719526875Too much shit in a game that's supposed to be like Max Brook's Zombie Survival Guide come to life.
>>719527983>scam citizen>donate to play>"lol we use your money to develop. finished product? deadlines? the fuck are you smoking? keep donating us so we can keep developing!"vs>zomboid>buy to play>only downside is they're slow as shit and their development goals are questionable
>>719527983I mean their studio did flood and they lost alot of shit, so I'd say the devs, at least, aren't on Star Citizen levels of "fuck you I got mine".
>Played the very first demo back in middle school when it came out on Fileplanet>Now college educated>Still not out>The fucking demo on fileplanet was better.>Gameplay was better, artstyle was better, UI was betterJesus christ how did it all go so wrong?
>>719554909It makes sense when think about it this way, the problem is that the devs do it too literally so just like real life, most of Zomboid gameplay is mundane boring shit and what is not boring shit is underbaked (i.e. everything that has to do with fighting and interacting with zombies).
>factions>NPCs>actual story>multiple zombie types>all came out before zomboid>was freewhere did it all go wrong?
>>719554670>They hope to get another similar surge of players for B42 stable (they won't)You're delusional if you don't think as soon as B42 stable drops this isn't getting a huge surge in player numbers. New purchases though, that's another debate.
>>719555361>I mean their studio did flood and they lost alot of shitno it fucking didn't, TIS offices never got flooded because they never had an office, it was Hello Games (twats behind No Man's Sky) offices that had a flood and the stories got so mixed up together than now everyone thinks it happened to TIS in hopes to rationalize how absolutely dogshit they at releasing updates in a reasonable timethe only controversy that TIS had happen is the infamous laptop theft incident, and that only resulted in a month of work being lost
>>719551681>>all to appease the 0.1% of players that wants to play on a forest map with zero resources and zombiesStill not possible. You're missing vital pieces since you can't just make planks out of logs without a saw, and you can't get anywhere without nails. Skilll grind is bullshit without skillbooks too.
>modders add shit to the game that the devs take to long to add>devs hire the modders and make them work on fishing
>>719525158what happened to that free Unreal 5 game that's basically 3d zomboid?
lets not forget indie stone got scammed out of their money because they coudnt detect blatant obvious AI art, then tried to gaslight their community into thinking it wasnt AI so lemmy had to once again melt down on reddit to gain sympathy and say how much effort they poured into build 42 such as focusing on pottery and cavemen clothes that you cant even use
>>719556510It was like 5 or 7 years ago (jesus christ) that I remember reading some of the build 42 updates. A programmer was in the hospital, and they just gave these bland slice of life updates always trying to buy time. Still, I had some faith it might work out.i checked back this January and saw the game was still early access. That's when I knew it was a scam.
>>719555223>finished product? deadlines? the fuck are you smoking? keep donating us so we can keep developinglmao you literally described zomboid how many years are we into b42 BETA? kek.
>>719527983only one of those games has made literally 1 billion fucking us dollars in public + private funding
>>719561242and only one of those games is taking 5 years to release one single update about.... is it something game breaking? industry changing? oh wait no 5 years to release an update about pottery.
https://youtu.be/oULByHbq5Tk?si=PwtWdHJgRpGw_H9oremember when they said theyve been working on npcs in secret this entire time a gazillion years in development
>>719536667Yet multiple trees are still gated by modern, uncraftable items.
>>719548946>i am blind and can't see the pause button
Some people are still following this after the "lost laptop" story?The scam was already obvious back then.
>>719524903adding cars is where it all started going wrong. Made the game to easy.
>>719547965Proper NPCs are never coming anon, not at least build 50.
>>719564761The game is boring and unplayable without cars.Because of MUH REALIZM, your character moves super slow (even though the game is not in real time, so actually your character is technically much slower than a irl human), getting anywhere without a car is a huge pain. Even dragging some logs to your base from 2 blocks away takes forever without a car.
>>719551173>RamjeetHmmmmmmm
>>719548348the only way I was ever able to keep weight was with trapping and fishing and the weight was still flying off, you'd have to be fucking slamming cans to the point of having issues storing them
>>719551173If this game hits 1.0 before PZ it will be the funniest shit ever.
>>719548893HumanitZ is overall simpler but has some features that Zomboid is missing like being able to add armor and increased storage to vehicles. You can also find a dog companion to travel with or a horse for alternate travel.
>>719565021Yeah the game had an actual challenge to it. Now you can just live in a car forever.
>>719551173>hissing demon zombies>fast zombies>special zombies>first person>no npcsits so over
>>719569890>>hissing demon zombies>>fast zombies>>special zombies>>first personthose are cool>>no npcssame with zomboid inb4 the janky asf day 0 mod
>>719569791>Now you can just live in a car forever.False!Cars are made off paper mache and break down really fast.And the noise pulls all zombies from within two blocks.Cars actually make the game harder, but also much less tedious and boring.
>>719569929just play l4d bro
>>719569945Living in a car out in the middle of no where next to a lake is as easy as shit.
>>719570309This has nothing to do with the car and you could just live by the lake without a car too.Also non-heavy duty cars break down really fast if you go offroad for extended periods of time.
>>719571058Dude its really not that hard to live in a car in Zombiod. There are tons of youtube vids of people doing it.
Just played zomboid on youtube it was the easiest game ever wtf?
>>719570083L4D sucks
so how useful is the new crafting stuff in b42 for the average person?I last played in b41 and even with loot rarity dropped to insanely rare I always managed to scavenge enough supplies to comfortably chill in my base for months
>>719572603Completely useless.You can survive one year without dipping into the new shitty crafting system for too long. At most to craft the odd spear with knife once in a while.Only useful for the minority that wants to larp as a caveman. Or play the really long game, which is non existent.
>>719572603useless. youd sooner turn the game off from boredom than you would be able to craft the new redundant shit.
>>719572603theres new armor you can craft, but all of it is heavy and makes your character uncomfortable (yes they added a discomfort moodle for some reason) rendering it all not worth ityou also have to find clay and stones to build furnaces and then you need an anvil to craft a forge......just fucking play minecraft at this point
>>719572603There is really no reason to interact with it. I mean unless you are doing pure wilderness survival whats the point in pottery, blacksmithing, knapping, etc.? I'd rather they focused on crafting that lets you make and put armor on cars with scrap or make unique junk weapons. You know, staples of zombie media.
>>719572863>>719573330>>719573443well that sucks but i guess i can just do it as a shitty hobby while waiting out exercise fatigueare the other new b42 features like basements and animals worth the wait at least?
>>719573852Stuff like basements and the new music/lighting are cool. Animals seem more a long term thing but I guess they are interesting. Probably not worth the long wait, but thank god this game has workshop stuff.
>>719572603The crafting system exists for "late game" where you have a bunch of skills, a bunch of magazines to know recipes and the maps lacking in easily accessible resources.If you're the average person the only thing I can see you ever making with the new crafting menu is a sling backpack as soon as you spawn if you don't just immediately find a normal backpack.
