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>I think the NDAs are starting to expire so people are able to talk about what happened to Saints Row more freely, and it's a depressing state of affairs. Deep Silver/THQN fundamentally didn't understand what the market wanted, pushed constantly for safe, sanitized take on Saints Row where even human shield mechanics were seen as too dark, and within the studio there was pointless in-fighting, and the end product is a game numerous people working on actively disliked.

>The part that is particularly interesting is that Steve Jaros was installed as lead writer and nobody was allowed to question or push back against anything he wrote. This isn't entirely new, I'd heard years ago that despite not being credited on the game, Jaros had ghostwritten it, and that many of the really bad ideas were his ideas. But as noted in the video, Jaros and the other writers were not allowed to speak, and writers were not allowed to be present during voice recording sessions. So Jaros was really just doing his best under conditions he had no control over.

And this is the good one:

>The video also mentions that [some of the worst dialogue in the game (which was removed in patches)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUttCyA3V7o) existed because management told them that they couldn't use any "misogynistic" language. It was just the norm in older Saints Row games to say something like, "That BITCH!" But in game, a female character has betrayed you, and you're steaming mad about it, but you can't call her a bitch. Even if you were playing as female Boss, that kind of language was deemed unacceptable. So instead you get this absolutely bizarre rant about sweaty horse balls.

https://youtu.be/jZfzp0NrM4Y
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not surprising
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>google steve jaros
of course
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>didn't understand what the market wanted, pushed constantly for safe, sanitized take on Saints Row where even human shield mechanics were seen as too dark,

Why is it so hard to get a open world game where you can be a sociopath like the old GTA games nowadays?
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>franchise about edgy gang bangers
>turned into shitty game with shitty millennial/zoomer leftist pandering "muh student loan debt/rent/capitalism" writing

Can't believe they Capitalist Realism'd fucking Saints Row of all games, and it wasn't even political. Fuck this shit, man



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