The people who mismanaged this franchise need to literally be put on criminal trial.Chief was once one of gaming's most iconic characters and he's been treated like dirt for years. And now Microsoft has COD as its golden goose so they have zero incentive to improve Halo.I don't even hate the 343i era games but the people in charge of the franchise are so moronic that they simply refused to put out content for Infinite and let the game die. Yes, it was retarded for them to use the Slipspace engine that nobody knew how to code on but they literally had a platform that a decade of DLC story content was supposed to be made on. And we waited SIX (6) FUCKING YEARS for Infinite to come out!!! That's absolutely ridiculous.Not to mention the absolute dogshit TV show that came out. Why the FUCK didn't they just do an canon animated series like Cyberpunk did? It would have been easy, far cheaper, not piss fans off, and actually have VA's from the games. Who is actually in charge of all this shit and why do they hate Halo?
>>719528103You're 21 years too late. Microsoft's been mismanaging this franchise since 2004.
>>719528103Microsoft might have raced to the finish line, but Halo was always going to end up irrelevant. It was a simple team based console arena shooter, and it was doomed to lose once other shooter franchises started gaining traction. It's exactly what happened to arena shooters on PC decades ago. There's no way to seriously innovate the arena shooter formula game after game without it moving away from what the original players enjoyed, and attempting to chase trends just means the arena shooter loses to what it was trying to copy.
>>719528103It died when COD4 released and took the world by storm.
franks fault
What's that Plank? Plank says FPS games are for midwits with no inner monologue.
>>719530784Honestly could've been building up a lot more ips to use for their console instead of just relying on Halo and them relying hurt both the IP and Microsoft even more. They had Fable but they killed Lionhead. Gears was heading the same path as Halo. Forza was there but Gran Turismo seems to have the console racing market niche by the balls. There was Rare but Microsoft didn't keep an eye on them and thus Rare destroying themselves within (Perfect Dark was the only IP they managed to kill while everything else was Rare's doing).
>>719528103Halo would be massively improved if they just went the gw route and just license out the IP to willing devs.
>>719528103Mismanaging the franchise started with making an FPS game a controller-oriented game.
>>719532806Not to mention letting Master Chief's story end. That will always be one of the biggest problems with modern Halo.
>>719528103This is beyond your wants and whimsies, gamer. 343 Halo was destined to pass.
>>719532806>>719532931Halo is a video game series, an FPS video game series, neither of these ideas would have worked. You want to fix the series, stop trying to make an FPS game into a movie, go back to you are the Master Chief and stop with this sissy character driven shit, build off Halo CE and expand on it. Take from actual good FPS games that came before and during it learning from Doom 2016 and eventually Half-Life 3. With a small team, AA in size, you can make one of the best Halo singleplayers this series ever had, one that finally surpasses Halo CE, by actually being a god damn video game for once.
>>719534459>eventually Half-Life 3.HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>719530898this, reach was the red flag that something bad was really going to happen to this franchise other than bungie leaving
>>7195346972027 is coming, the face of FPS will never be the same, again. Something Halo will never do again, lol.
>>719528103Why are halo fans like this? There are way worse games than Halo 4/5/Infinite. Most franchises have had much lower lows. The reason you won't see a halo revival is because nobody plays halo anymore. The new ones and the old ones barley have a player count. CoD killed halo years ago and nobody admits it.
>>719528103>The people who mismanaged this franchise need to literally be put on criminal trial.Grow up.
>>719536862Too self-absorbed and used to certain output quality perhaps?
>>719530784It doesn't need crazy innovation to be good, it just needs to be a competent fucking game. Infinite could have been that game if they actually launched it with feature full multiplayer and forge and added more vehicles and weapons as time went on. As well as the obvious story DLC that was clearly intended to happen before all those plans got scrapped.Shooters that aren't some big battle royal might not be as popular but they're not obsolete by any margin.>>719528947>>719530898>>719532839Those are all really outdated takes.>>719532806Agreed. Letting different devs do it and then having a team manage the lore/story across games to make sure it is consistent, sinilar to how Games Workshop does, would be great. We would probably see a lot more Halo Wars type games and spinoffs which i think the franchise really needs.
>>719537141Infinite would have died regardless, Halo no longer has multiplayer staying power and the new UE5 MP game is going to find that out the hard way. Only thing Halo has going for it now is singleplayer and Halo's campaign needs to desperately take from singleplayer FPS games, not multiplayer FPS games. And for the type of FPS games it needs to take from, Halo needs to take from the FPS games it built itself from, not the modern military shooter ones, that was never Halo no matter how many times Microsoft tried to force it to be under both Bungie and 343i. In terms of spin-offs, Halo has never truly had a successful spin-off by other devs nor Bungie given their last Halo games realistically didn't touch the first three games in sales. No more military shooters, no more Hollywood Blockbusters, learn from Doom 2016. The less you have, the better.
>>719536862I literally said I didn't hate the 343i era games. I actually enjoyed Infinite a lot when it came out and I even liked 4's campaign and 5's multiplayer.The point of my post is that the franchise has been mismanaged to a retarded degree. They should have been pumping out spinoffs and extra content and dlc but instead left Infinite to rot and starve the fans of content.Nobody in the Halo community cares about competition with COD either. COD has done better in sales than Halo for years and there's not much that could change that. We just want people who aren't retards in charge of the games. Like why the fuck did it take 6 years to make Infinite and we got half the normal modes of multiplayer at launch and forge wasnt even done yet? Why was the game budget so high? Why was there so much scrapped content? The game doesn't need to be ultra profitable if they don't waste copious amounts of money on development for stuff they don't use. It doesn't need tens of millions of players either, plenty of lower budget and lower player count FPS games do well enough. Look at Splitgate 1 for example.
>>719536862You hit the nail on the head, it's why I've been saying it's time to just make singleplayer gameplay-focused Halo games where you're the Chief killing aliens and saving the day. You don't even need to go all out in the story, add some mysteries here and there, give a final boss, end the game with a Warthog Run and people would be happy. It being a singleplayer-only game means they can do things in the campaign they wasn't able to do before. They could properly make us interested in the universe, something they failed at doing since post-Halo CE.
>>719537949>post-Halo CENot even 2 or Reach?
>>719538050Not even 2 or Reach, you could tell something was off with Halo 2 the moment you played it after CE, like something changed.
>>719537694>I literally said I didn't hate the 343i era games. I actually enjoyed Infinite a lot when it came out and I even liked 4's campaign and 5's multiplayer.I was mostly referring to halo fans in general. I would argue 343 isn't mismanaging that bad compared to franchises like Final Fantasy, CoD, Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat, etc. it has had a way better consistency of quality. The difference is all those fans come back where most halo "fans" stopped playing after 3 and didn't even give reach a fair shake before declaring it dead. I disagree with a lot of 343's decisions but I liked Infinite a lot and I was excited for DLC that will never come because everyone abandoned it. CoD can come back after a bad game because the fans want it to. There aren't a lot of halo fans anymore and halo games are expensive to make. >>719537949I agree with you and I think that is the direction it is going if leaks are to be believed, but I think it will go over like a lead balloon. Halo fans want all or nothing tell them forge is coming in an update instead of launch it is a dead on arrival game.
>>719528103I'm going to literally kek out loud when the Unreal 5 Halo drops. As if this series wasn't already raped enough.
Microsoft had a brand new franchise and they killed it for money. https://youtu.be/Q01-sRHA-1U?si=9c3c85-hdMeriM80
>>719537481Don't forget about Wolfenstein TNO, that came out over a decade ago and it still has a better story than 343 (Granted they story became divisive by the time TNC came out).
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>>719528103It wasn't mismanaged. It was deliberately killed.
>>719542519damn i just got redpilled
>>719537694>They should have been pumping out spinoffsNobody cared about those.
