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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1004640/FINAL_FANTASY_TACTICS__The_Ivalice_Chronicles/

One month to go.
Anyone picking it up?
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I've already emulated the original so I see no point in buying this myself
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>>719530854

>Fully voiced dialogue

Oh, all our "favorite" cheap ass youtuber celebre-hacks doing the typical shit job they always do? And are they voice-raping the original dialogue, or that completely shit medieval rewrite done to War of the Lions?

>"Beautifully" (((enhanced))) graphics

Doubt it.

>And countless "gameplay improvements"

Like what? The original was already peak. You really can't improve on perfection.

I'll stick with playing my original copy from time to time, or changing up my personal emulator build every few years.
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>>719530896
>>719531226
Doesn’t the cynicism ever get tiring?
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>>719531316

I have not been given an even remotely good reason recently to not be cynical. I'm sure this won't be any different.
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>>719530854
its missing the psp enhanced edition content so why bother its an inferior version.
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I buyed but not the deluxe version, only regular
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is there a way to turn off the new translation? the needless pretention pulled me out of the psp version
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>>719531316
Theyre trolling outside of /b/, anon. Dangling ragebait fishing for an emotional response. And you fell for it.
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>>719530854
I'd prefer if they re-list Last Remnant on steam.
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>>719531226
I'm always fascinated by the fact there are people who just sit there and listen to overly long dialog deliveries. I generally consider VA a waste of money.
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>>719531451
>>719531390
The game comes with two versions:
1. Original PSX with WOTL translation.
2. New version with new translation based on WOTL and more content.

So while it doesn't have WOTL stuff it does have new things. It's not exactly inferior but it's probably not worth the asking price just because it's different.
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>>719530854
>$50 for a low budget remaster
this is why SE deserves to go bankrupt
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>>719531594
its missing the psp content though they outright stated so.
Its just a graphic enhancement and rebalancing over the original. I doubt there's much if any new content.
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>>719531594

Is there a version without the WotL translation? Just the original english version cleaned up of its few grammatical errors?
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>>719530854
>doesn't have all the content
>has denuvo
lol, fuck no.
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>>719531517
just pirate it...
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>>719530854
nah fuck chibi remasters. modern japniggers don't know how to into drawing so they just crank up the saturation and bruteforce the resolution
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>>719530854
Did they just bust out mobile assets? That was the only version so far that had updated sprites/portraits.
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>>719531672
There is some new content but yeah the WOTL stuff is gone.

>>719531694
The new version has a new translation but it'll probably be similar to WOTL.
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>>719531804
nope they're "new"
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>>719530854
>$50
Nope. I was willing to buy the pixel remaster set which was overpriced too but it still wasn't that fucking bad
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Need to beat Crisis Core before this drops. I know it, FFX, and Tactics are all different genres but since theyre all Ive been playing lately I might be approaching FF burnout
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>Denuvo
It's a PS1 game for fucks sake
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>>719530854
no war of the lions, so no buy.
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>>719530854
So did they actually add any new content to it?
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>>719532180
A new translation and i think some QoL stuff but probably nothing worth the pricetage
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>>719530854
>That price
>Denuvo
>DEI rewrites
>For a PS1 game
No, the only game I'll buy this year is Silksong.
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>>719532518
>DEI rewrites
The original translation is included dumbass
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I've never played a Final Fantasy game in my entire life. It's always looked like the gayest shit imaginable.
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>>719532554
Only if you play the old version, not if you play the new version.
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>>719532647
>I've never sucked cock in my entire life, it alway's looked like the gayest shit.
Give it a try, it might be life changing. You never know.
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>>719532718
No.
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>>719530854
FFTA was the better game. At least give me a remaster of that or the DS game and not another fucking PC port of the Android version of FFT.
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>>719531226
>Oh, all our "favorite" cheap ass youtuber celebre-hacks doing the typical shit job they always do?
Who the fuck plays Japanese games with English audio these days? It's shit because no one with an IQ north of 100 even sets the audio to English in the first place.
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>>719532647
thanks for sharing faggot now how do I unsubscribe from this shitty blog?
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>>719532647
quite a foolish thing to say when Jack is literally the straightest video game character of all time
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>>719531672
>I doubt there's much if any new content.
There's actually a ton of new stuff for English players.
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>>719532836
>FFTA was the better game
lol no
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>>719532854
LMFAOOOOO, Animtranny BTFO
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>>719530854
>1:1 remaster announced 2 months ago
>No hype what so ever for arguably the 3rd most favorite FF title out there from the late 90s/early 2000s
But...I was told remake and Rebirth were flops because they weren't 1:1 remasters? This game gets one thread a month while rebirth and remake get threads every day. What gives?
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>>719533001
Stop having arguments with yourself. It's not healthy.
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>>719532848

Midwit weebs actually believe this shit lmao
No one wants to listen to fucking nip screeches when human language is an option.
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>>719530854

Here is what it would take to get me to buy a $100 remaster of FFT:

>Complete art remaster by a team headed by Hiroshi Minagawa

>Complete live orchestral remaster of the OST as done with the LoM remaster

>The original game's dialogue cleaned of its few errors. Complete with the original character and spell names, and even the option for the WotL renames if wanted.

>The inclusion of a Blue Mage class, and I guess the inclusion of the WotL classes for the people that liked those.

>The option for an "Open Invite mode" where you can invite any non-lucavi character in the game. You'd still have to fight them in any battle where you meet them thereafter.

>A "free battle mode" where you can put together a dream team of whatever characters you wanted vs whatever other characters you wanted; and have them fight on any of the in-game playable maps.

I won't even throw in the oft-wanted online vs mode so many want, as I know that'd be too much for Squeens. I just want all of the above, and i'll pay $100 for it.
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>>719532995
hey faggot I said I wanted to unsubscribe. Why am I still getting these gay ass posts?
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>>719533187
You are MAD AS FUCK. LMAAAAAAOOOOOOOO
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>>719533143
For me it would be like
>don't fuck up the UI/art/sound(they fucked it up)
>add new guest characters from newer SE IPs like 2b or something
>don't have denuvo
>give it widescreen/ultra widescreen
>uncap the frame rate
I'm a simple man but they still don't want my money.
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>>719531594

ugh. i dont like that new translation. its the thing i want off

>>719531694
honestly id take the gramatical errors
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>>719531226
>cheap ass youtuber celebre-hacks doing the typical shit job they always do
It's a medieval fantasy game and they always get voice actors from the UK for those instead of mutt e-celebs so it should sound good for a dub.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7WkDfSeBBc

New opening
Thoughts?
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>>719534506
I like it better than the PSP version. Never liked how it was mostly just Delita in that one, where are the homies?
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>>719530854
...yes, but why did you post it like this?
This feels weirdly... promotional.
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>>719534506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4LVwwfgvM
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>>719531594
>2. New version with new translation based on WOTL and more content.
The new version is not based on WotL at all.

>>719531694
>Is there a version without the WotL translation? Just the original english version cleaned up of its few grammatical errors?
Depends on what you mean by that.
If you mean the PSX translation, no.
If you mean based on a new set of writing from Matsuno loosely based on the original Japanese non-WotL version (but written to be better for spoken dialogue), then the Enhanced Edition has that.

Unfortunately the "Classic" version uses the WotL translation for English, but for Japanese, it's the original version and not WotL
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Call me when it's $20, and it's confirmed or not that the flow of combat can be sped up to the level like Disgaea allows, so I'm not perpetually waiting on units to slowly move around and do animations.
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>>719532518
>DEI rewrites
Do you not know what DEI means? The new version's script is literally written by the original writer.
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The lack of dark knight really triggers me for some reason.
Its such a minor thing but still
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>>719534506
Why didn't they just remake the visuals in this style? Can't be that expensive to reimagine a game that is just a series of small tiled maps into something that looks less dated.
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>>719534506
>New opening
>Thoughts?
I like that is has the same energy as the original intro. Even included the music-timed chocobo stomp in the water like the original.

I didn't particularly like the PSP version's intro, because it felt very different in what it was communicating than PSX.
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>>719534768
we don't read moonrunes anon
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>ivalice chronicles
>doesn't include advance/2
>literally just one game, the original FFT
huh? does it at least have the war of lions enhancements/changes?
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>>719534831
People get very upset when you change an old game's visuals TOO much.
I don't really know why, myself.
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why can't they just make a new one?
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>>719534831
That would take effort.

>>719534872
Nope.
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>>719531316
Does it ever get tiring buying the same game over and over for $60 instead of just playing it once and being happy about that?
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>>719534864
The translation is based on the original writer's rewrite, not someone else's writing or WotL.
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>>719534960
it's localized by some lefty
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>>719534898
Gameplay would be the same. Just do the ol' retro-graphics realtime toggle like games used to do.
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>>719534904
Probably because the original doesn't exist on modern platforms, and it would cost old fans to skip it before doing a brand new one. My assumption at least.
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>>719534872
>does it at least have the war of lions enhancements/changes?
Yes, it's based on the JP PS1 release just like WOTL was.
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>>719534984
Oh. Trolling. Nvm
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>>719530854
I'm not going to read this thread full of brownoid rationalization, cope, and seething, but yes. I took the day off of work, I will try the new hard difficulty, and I look forward to seeing the Matsuno additions to the story.
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>>719535053
I'm not trolling you troon.
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>no genji equipment because the director didn't know the NA release fixed that bug and decided to use the outdated JPN release instead

I hate Creative Business 3 so much. Just keep raping FFXIV and stop fucking actual good games.
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>719535072
>no source, pure assumption and buzzwords
(you)
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>>719535075
Anon, most of the original FFT team are in Creative Business 3, and most of the ones who aren't came back for this remake.
The dude who designed the cross hotbar controls for FF14 was one of the original people for FFT
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>>719535075
>fixed
nah that shit was gay.
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>>719535072
who's the translator then dumbass
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>Denuvo
>Won't sell because of it
>Enix will claim it's because nostalgia is bullshit and no one cares about the classics like the internet claims
>Continues pumping nomuraslop and xiv instead
I fucking hate that company's executives so much
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>>719531226
>Fully voiced dialogue
Wonder if they'll use FFXIV's cast.
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I'm not worried, once they realize what they paid for they will go insane.
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>>719535616
Who's Sena going to voice?
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>>719535673
Boco
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>>719530854
>$50 for a game from 1997
bruh
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>>719535616
I didn't play XIV, so I don't know how many of these did work for that.
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>>719530854
No I have this game. If they want to actually charge full price for it they need to have the balls to actually remake it. Same deal with the new Dragon Quest 3. Sick of this greedy half measure shit.
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>>719535616
Not full cast listed yet, but a number of them.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt37211762/

The guy who voiced Urianger (not ARR-version) voices Cidolfus Orlandeau.
The guy who voiced Noah from Xenoblade voices Mustadio.
Benn Starr is Dycedark Beoulve.
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>>719535958
>actually remake it
They literally remade it. It's not emulation.
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>>719535614
>>>Won't sell because of it
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>>719536028
That looks like a remaster or enhanced port. They're not rebuilding or reimagining it they're stripping the graphical layer and touching it up.
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>>719534831
>Can't be that expensive
That line of thinking is how companies go broke, the reality is that FFT is one of the biggest SRPG names but SRPGs are still a niche product in the end. Would I have enjoyed it more? Sure, but I've got to be realistic about what we can get and I prefer if the gameplay balances and revised script along with added lines are done well.
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>>719536107
They literally rebuilt it.
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>>719531804
it's a filter, and it kinda sucks.
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>>719536058
only nostalgiafag boomers care about fft and they all hate denuvo
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Predict the peak CCU
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>>719536284
Doesn't look like a filter. Looks like they rebuilt some of the sprites with smaller "pixels"
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>>719536362
>steamchart faggotry
There's something... brown about this post
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>>719530854
I'm gonna burn a CD-R and enjoy it on an original PS1 as Miyamoto originally intended. Enjoy your remake slop faggots
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>>719530854
nah, I own a playstation to play playstation games on.
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>>719536362
probably like 12k
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>>719535904
>ben starr
niggas everywhere
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>>719530854
No.
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>>719536423
nah, watch extremely zoomed in footage and you'll see. One cleric has a cross on his shirt that transforms as he moves.
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>>719536912
I've seen all the screenshots.
Doesn't really look like a filter.
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>>719536115
Charging what they are for an FFT 'remaster' which amounts to nothing more than slapping a paper texture on top, some cleaned up UI elements, and voice acting, is what makes a company go broke. The value proposition here is awful.
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>>719537000
footage nigga, not screenshots
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>>719537082
Anon, I haven't seen anything that looks like it's a filter.
Are you referring to compressed videos or something?
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>>719537047
We haven't seen enough of the adjusted gameplay and script, and personally I can be satisfied enough to buy the game on sale if it checks out. The thing you're not acknowledging is that completely remaking it would add in a lot of cost that might not pay off.
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>>719530854
>Denuvo
>on 28 year old game
Shan't be buying it
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>>719537202
>>719537082
all this talk of filters is reminding me how awful Grandia "HD" looked
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>>719537335
I sort of predict majority of sales will be on Switch anyway. I think it's the only platform where you can get it physical.
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I'll just watch whatever this new "content" is on youtube.
Considering they removed the WoTL additions to add it, I suspect it will just be the same scenes as that except with the original writer's words basically amounting to less actual content.
>uhhhh but WoTL bad shakespeare and muh non canon
Oh my god I don't care, it still had more content, more classes, more character and more scenes. No reason to remove that.
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>No reason to remove that.
Unless it was bad (in terms of the new cutscenes and "story additions", it was)
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>>719537501
I know this is splitting hairs but it was also not removed because the game was built off the original. I'm not interested to see the 'content' from WOTL, I'm interested to see the actual original refined and my purchase will be based entirely on whether the game lives up to what it promised (Which again, is not WOTL).
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Except it wasn't.
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>>719530854
Why don't they just make Final Fantasy Tactics 2 or Final Fantasy Tactics A3?
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>>719537615
>One month to go.
>Anyone picking it up?

>Except it wasn't.

?
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>>719530854
kek why is it warning you of denuvo? is that some bongland warning or an extension?
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What are the chances they'll add the missing PSP content as paid DLC?
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>>719537776
0
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>>719537776
Extremely doubtful.
The entire "add a bunch of stuff from people outside of the original creators for quickly ported portable releases" phase of Square is a sort spot over there, similar to when Disney was pumping out VHS sequels to classic Disney animated films.

So same reason the Pixel Remasters of FF1 through FF6 will never see the GBA "enhancements" as DLC. Those were executive-level decisions not associated to the original creators.
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>>719537753
Its also listing sale prices AND a fake currency
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>>719537667
There was a FFT gacha mobile game or something. If they're going to make a low budget game now it's basically just by default a shitty gacha now. AAA movie game that takes 10 years to make or gacha, those are your options.
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>>719537667
Because it would take talent or passion. Neither of which is available at Squeenix at present.
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I'm starting to see why the FF7 creators didn't want to just do a normal remake for 7, seeing the reactions here.
Maybe they made the right call afterall.
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>>719538051
>>719537667
For me it's Final Fantasy Crystal Defenders 2.
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>>719538208
FF7R for all intents and purposes bombed, so no.
We just want good products. Neither that remake or this remaster are good. They fucked them both up.
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>>719535182
>he didn't watch the interview at pax where he joked about how his memory was wrong about how things were in the game and the staff just used video footage to confirm instead of asking him.
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>>719537975
Are there any interviews concerning the extra stuff in the ports? I'm curious if it was a cynical "we have to add stuff to entice buyers" idea or if some new devs were thrilled at the chance to work on one of their favorite games.
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>>719536362
same as ffxvi
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>>719538315
What's the relevance of that to the post you replied to?
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>>719538208
>guys we made the thing explicitly how you told us not to do it
>wtf woah you don't like it? figures! a remake was never a good option!
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>>719538302
>bombed
"/v/ bombed", not actual bombed. /v/ loves misusing terms.
It was below their expectations.
Square's release of Marvel Avengers was a bomb.
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>>719531316
>just consume, don't criticise
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>>719538208
Pretty much. It's impossible to completely remake a beloved classic where everyone is happy.

7R was the right choice. People in this thread wants to pretend if only it was done THEIR way, it would be loved (ignoring that their way would make another anon mad)
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>>719530854
Reminder that silksong is 20 bucks
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>>719538443
Fundamentally retarded post.
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>>719538302
>We just want good products. Neither that remake or this remaster are good. They fucked them both up.
No two anon can agree on what a "good product" for a remake is.
In this very thread, people can't agree whether WotL was good or bad, or whather that specific translation was actually good or bad.
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Nah thanks, not interested in new translations.
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>>719538486
We don't sign our posts, anon.
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>>719538473
>Paying for a game without Denuvo protection
That's why it will sell like 3 copies while FFT will sell bazilion copies because pirates can't pirate it thanks to the protection of based Denuvo.
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>>719538540
You are so retarded you can't even use jokes correctly. Congratulations
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>>719538547
I could just play the better version on psx or psp without paying a single cent either.
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>>719538579
Good one.
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>>719530854
Haven't bought a tactica game in a while so sure why not.
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>>719538397
>sold less than the original
>disappointed suits
absolutely BOMBED you faggot
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>>719538685
>just accept the /v/ definition reeeeee
least deranged /v/ schizo
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>>719538613
Why would you play inferior versions with less content?
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PSP version with slow down fix preinstalled.
Texture pack. Just saved you whatever unwarranted price Square is charging.
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>>719538504
>No two anon can agree on what a "good product" for a remake is.
Yes we can you pedantic fuck. That's why literally no one is hyped for this remaster, it's being shat on from every direction.
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>>719538721
PSX version has tons of mods
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>>719538737
>Why literally no one is hyped
>a couple posts being excited for this, along with posts not excited for it

>Yes we can
>posts can't even agree one the old versions which is good or bad

Uh huh...
Final Fantasy threads, I swear.
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>>719538398
>just criticise, don't consume
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>>719538796
No one is actually excited to pay this much money for a demake of a PS1 game, those "people" are just consoomers.
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>>719538328
https://noisypixel.net/final-fantasy-tactics-ivalice-chronicles-omits-war-of-the-lions/#:~:text=The%20development%20team%20was%20not,path%20for%20them%20to%20take.

There's a few actually
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>>719538943
>if I ignore people who are excited for it, there is no one
I guess this isn't exactly an abnormal place for a Final Fantasy internet conversation to go, but it's certainly dumb
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>>719539000
Why would adding more stuff be a loss for players and fans?
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>>719539113
Star Wars late 90's George Lucas additions
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>>719538443
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir and Devil Survivor Overclocked are the only ones I liked.
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>>719539113
they're gaslighting you
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>>719539113
There are no shit purists who get mad at anything that even slightly deviates from the original thing they loved
PSP version wasn't universally liked.
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>>719539158
>Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
I count this as one of the best remasters ever created.
They even put the OG on the disc
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>>719539158
I thought the Star Ocean 2 remake was the best remake I ever played, but there's a good chunk of people who positively hate it compared to the original so
Different strokes for different folks
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>>719530854
100% hit chance, lol.
I strongly dislike the visual representation of the estimated damage dealt to the target's hp.
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>>719538443
It's actually really fucking easy but they put zero effort into it.

For example Okami was perfectly ported but it has a 30fps lock which lowers its score, but no one says it was a bad remaster or anything like that.
Bayonetta on PC? Perfect.
Dragon's Dogma on PC? Almost perfect but they axed the Berserk stuff.

Any MGS, FF, or Persona game? Absolutely riddled with issues and only drooling fanboys disagree with that. You're one of them and you're clearly angry that people call you out on that implying anything in 7R was a right choice.
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>>719539295
It's in TO:Reborn, and I found it to be fine, even nice to have in cases
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>>719530854
I'm not, no. The enhancements are not enough for me to drop money on it. The voices I hear characters do for the lines can not be replicated by machine or by people.


A good example is the infamous "Animals have no God." line from Algus at the end of chapter 1. How is that said to you in your head before voice acting? To me, it's said strainged through gritting teeth. I'm expecting a voice actor to ruin it by making it sound more sarcastic or with no emphasis on the word "have."
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>>719539338
What a perfectly well-adjusted post that is definitely worth taking completely seriously and not just ignored.
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>>719539418
I accept your concession. Filthy shit eater.
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>>719539364
Not the expected hp loss. Look at the right hand side of the picture, there's a red bar on the enemy's hp gauge.
>>719530854
I was about to buy it, until I saw the graphics, the price and that there were no goodies, even no dark knight.
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>>719539436
So well-adjusted
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>>719539461
Oh, I see what you're talking about.
Hmm. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Indifferent mostly at the moment, but I haven't actually put much thought into how that would affect my thinking as I play, maybe it might change to a bad thing? Dunno.
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>>719532180
New dialog for named party members during story missions so they are no longer 100% irrelevant to the story once they join your party.
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>>719532554
>The original translation is included dumbass
War of the Lions fanfiction rewrite, not the original translation.
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>>719539550
How would that work? Only during the battlefield? Or by entirely removing the chance of no-way-fag'ing people like Rafa, Malak, Meliadoul and so forth from joining?
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>>719539550
There were already a few on the PSX game; Mel had one for example.
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>>719539550
Apparently they said it's similar to some of the additional dialogue for named characters in your party added for TO, but even more of it.

But I also imagine that'd be easier when there aren't multiple story branches like TO.
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>>719532352
>A new translation
So, censorship...
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>>719539673
Worse than censorship, a rewrite of history. They want this to be what people think of when they think FFT, not the PSX game.
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>>719539673
What?
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>>719539716
/v/ has trouble understanding some words, so sometimes some anons just throw them out randomly.
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>>719539615
>How would that work?
You know how during battle sometimes there would be small back and forth conversations between characters(like between Argath and Milleuda)? That, but with all the named characters who never say shit once they become full party members, like Mustadio.
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>>719539716
To be fair, CBU3 is basically on a crusade to shave off any kind of edge from games they make like the current state of XIV being a shitty Disney movie. I can absolutely see them removing stuff like the Rapha rape.
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>>719539858
The rape is still in the Lawful route of TO:Reborn, and the implied attempt is still in ARR XIV.
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>>719539850
I can see how Cid, Agrias and Meliadoul would have input through the game since they are directly related to essentially everything, but they are really going to be scrapping random shit out to make Rafa, Malak, Musadio, Beowful and potentially the human version of his girlfriend have any input. Or hell, Cloud.
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>>719539907
Let me pose this to you: Has there been any new rape in FXIV?
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>>719539981
Yes, the game, and the player.
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>>719539858
Also one of the Corpse Brigade members was directly confirmed to be a rapist if you read the description of him in the history section. If anything that one is guaranteed to be removed.
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>>719539547
Not a biggy anyway.
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>>719530854
>full price
lol
lmao
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>>719531804
Ramza turns into a girl? :blush:
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>>719539998
Fair enough.
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>>719539858
>Disney movie
Trans and women did this
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>>719539941
Apparently Cloud can be obtained earlier in this version (in Standard mode at least, not Tactical mode), and he comes already equipped with the Materia Blade. Something else is at the top of the volcano now (some are suspecting Masamune since there's something about it not being stealable now? I don't know the details of that)
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>>719539941
Better than them losing any shred of relevancy once they become full party members. That shit always annoyed me. These characters all have story relevancy up until they join your party then they are never seen again outside of battle. They may as well not let them join you and instead you unlock their unique job class for everyone else in your party.
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>>719540121
Mustadio says hi
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>>719540143
>side quest, not story relevancy
>his only relevant part is being included in the scene with Ramza and being used as out of place comedic relief
>could have been cut entirely with nothing else about the scene changing
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>>719532848
You do.
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>>719540219
Cope more. You were proven wrong.
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>>719540121
Mustadio and Meliadoul may as well not exist out of randomly bumping on them though. Not that I disagree with your notion, but I feel like their "arks" are kind of done by the time you meet most of these characters.
What do Rafa and Malak have to do or say other than just go along with what Ramza does at that point? What special input would they have in conversations?

I mean yeah, Cid and Agrias should definitely never fall into that. THEY should have a shit ton of opinions. Cid specifically should have abundant information to share at that stage of the game.

But the rest? Eh. Mustadio is already there for the extra content of the storyline which is the only thing he is actually relevant for.
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>>719540240
>specifically mention story relevancy
>"but what about this NOT story relevant scene!"
Cope more
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>>719531316
I just learned my lesson with both of Tactics Ogre remakes, PSP and Reborn
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>>719538849
Looks like the background elements are the exact same textures with a filter applied, except the water which is redrawn to reflect the waterfalls impacting the water surface.
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>>719530854
Looks like a shitty downgrade from the ps1 version which you can emulate for free.
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>>719535904
>Cidolfus - Timothy Watson
He plays Urianger in FF14.
The rest are mostly unknowns it looks like, they've voiced Xenoblade from what I can see but not sure what else.
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Final-Fantasy-Tactics-The-Ivalice-Chronicles/
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>>719540289
I love Meliadoul... I think it's largely being a Lady knight with a cool ass green cloak, I can't explain why I like her design so much
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>>719539243
Yeah, it's one of the rare cases where the devs knew what they did wrong and really listened to feedback. I hate that there's no PC port of this game solely because I want to shill it to other people.

>>719539291
Personally the graphics were a big miss to me, it's incredibly distracting.

>>719539981
No, but dumbing down everything is the issue there and not rape per se.
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>>719538208
They made the right choice. People who wanted a 7 remake didn’t really want a remake, they wanted a time machine to go back to their childhood. Nothing would have satisfied.
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Why would I buy it when I can just play the original?
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>>719540331
Huh. I actually really liked TO:Reborn
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>>719540385
You better hope they kept the balance changes to her kit from WOTL instead of reverting her back to literally worthless then. Though I guess you can always just ignore her base kit.
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>>719540335
I'm not seeing a filter, unless you're referring to all the Depth of Field everywhere (which I think is a bit overdone, hopefully can turn that off)
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>>719540387
>Source: My ass
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>>719540423
Yeah. Its not bad, I liked it(at last it was better than PSP version) but they left it in bugged state with fucked up formulas and it still was too bloated(less than PSP version but still).
I paid full price for it and in one later patch they make it impossible to start it on Win7(ot was possible to play it on it with some old dll put in the game folder).
Last nip remake I even bought.
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>>719540439
Apparently a lot of characters have some stat adjustments here and there, and some equipment changes. Don't think Orlandu stars with Excalibur (not confirmed, but the graphics shown imply possibly Save the Queen instead) and Cloud is apparently confirmed to start with the Materia Blade
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>historically accurate Delita

so, what do we think of Richard Neville, earl of Warwick, the Kingmaker?
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>>719540536
Oh. Yeah, it no longer working would be an incredibly very valid reason
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>>719540289
The same can be said of a lot of party members in JPRGs, especially Final Fantasy. They all have a very small part to play and for the rest of the game they just hang out in the background. Meliadoul could have conversations with Folmarv and other church members for example. It would be situational, I don't expect every single character to be able to comment in every single story battle.
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>>719540614
I needed to scour internet for last patch working. Like if I gonna play on pirated version then why even bother paying?
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>>719530854
is this hoe gonna be all blurry and smeared and faux HD like Tactics Ogre Reborn? i hate that aesthetic.
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>>719540663
Chrono Cross is probably one of the worst
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What are some other very good tactics games with job systems? Fell seal and disgaea look atrocious. Looked up some upcoming (2026) srpg, can confidently say they will suck.
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>>719540730
Even in Chrono Cross party members tend to talk more when they are actively in your party. Sure they mostly all say the same thing just with their own speech quirks but at least it's SOMETHING versus nothing.
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Played the original PS1 release
Played the PSP version on emulator
Played the PS1 version on emulator with mods
Played the PSP version on emulator with mods
Played the PS1 version on original hardware with mods
I will pay for the demake as well because doing so pisses off your EUpoor apes.
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>>719540705
Have you or anyone else played reborn? The portraits are made with ai, aren't they? The hydra heads dissappear and some fingers and what not are elonged unnaturally, like dark catiua crying. There are other details that look very bad. It's ai, isn't it?
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>>719540730
Chrono Cross was designed with quantity over quality (in terms of storyline involvement) from the scratch, to be fair.
And even then there is a commendable amount of interactions of "the right party member at the right place", considering the absurd amount of variables you can have.
Some of it is very obviously guide-bait, like why the FUCK is Pierre the only one that has shit scattered all over the world including the Dead Sea, when he never even mentions that even superficially?
Nevertheless, they are fairly different circumstances to the average JRPG with a small pocket cast that even then manages to factor in no way.
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>>719540712
the devs were proud of the DOF they added
retards
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>>719540459
Now that I compare it properly, I think it might be AI. You can see where the AI got confused and thought that was supposed to be grass in the original, at the bottom corner closest to our viewpoint. The original artist probably intended that to be a crack in the stone or something but the img2img AI or whatever they used turned it into grass.
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>>719540839
Do pay, we need sales for a new and decent srpg.
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>>719540705
to game is pure shit. you take anything from fft, make it worse, and this is tactics ogre, in any of it rerererereleases

bad music
bad art/character art
bad, repeating 10 times stages
stages are shit literally "pathfinder wotr" where your units cannot do anything because 1 unit stand in corridor

battles are shit, you have 12 units, enemy has 12 units or more, each your unit do like 10% hp damage in 1 turn. or heal 10% hp in 1 turn.

classes are not interesting
story is boring, 1 time every 10 hours something happens that should be interesting but it is not.
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>>719540793
Fell Seal is actually INCREDIBLY fun if you love customizing units/characters. But yeah, it's an indie game with bleh graphics and art.
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>>719540947
*and a bleh story
If you're more mechanics focused, it's great. If you need the whole package, then yeah, might not do it for you.
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FFT WOTL mobile was okay but I really wanted the units to say the attack lines. For some reason they disabled that in EN and it was like, why turn that off?
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>>719540947
>Fell Seal
this game is pure shit
like, take any fft part and make it worse - this will be fell seal

ugly art, bad boring classes, bad soundtrack, boring, repeating maps, enemies just run on map spamming aoe heal so battles not end.
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>>719540856
I always liked that having Nikki in the party had so much more added story when encountering Marcy and Fargo.
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>>719540854
I doubt it, I didn't notice anything like that
you can post examples tho
>>719540885
I disagree, especially on art and music and it was FFT that copied TO first and then shrunk battles and bloated skills
if anything what make TO remakes much worse was blindly coping FFT systems, they are worse because they got bloated by it
the best(mechanically) TO game was Knights of Lodis with emblems and stuff
I also really miss difference between male/female classes and gender limitation on classes
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>>719541003
Chrono Cross was surprisingly soulful in that way, and I can only imagine how good it could have been. Still love it in spite of its many faults though.
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>>719530854
why wouldn't I just play the original on my psp
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>>719541002
Eh, mechanically I found it very fun and I really enjoyed my time with it.
But you're right about the ugliness and lot of the shit parts.
Also, enemy healing is limited, and can even be customized in the ini file if you're having diffiiculty.
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>>719540984

"The hearts of men are black with corruption and must needs be cleansed!”
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>>719541003
>Bring village chief around for no reason
>Every Dragon General freaks out about it going forward
>Bring Vaan to the Dead Sea
>For no reason, he actually has custom dialogue other characters will not say where he calls out Harle's bullshit
>Bring Draggy to the Elemental Dragons/Dragon fights
>They all tell him something or another before fighting
>Bring Pip around to random storyline events
>Ends up randomly having a melty about scientists ruining everything down the line because cage PTSD

AIEEEEE THE SOUL
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>>719540947
Fell Seal had a lot terrible FFT-Archer tier classes iirc. I remember finding it boring and just settling on making my entire party the same broken combination by the end.
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>>719541272
>Vaan
His scene with his alternate self is the best.
>"You must be me in this world."
>"Woah are you an impostor? You can take my place if you want, I am so bored."
>"... No, I am you from another world. Like I said."
>"Oh, alright. Is your world more fun than mine? We could trade places."
>"We are starving and the military rapes us bro."
>"Ah. Sounds inconvenient."
>...
>"Okay Serge let's go before I kill myself, and not figuratively."
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>>719541030
The reborn version is pretty goddamn close to the hq4x filtered version. My money is on the filter and then a bit of manual refinement. Especially the hat, right hand, feather, and shoes are cleaned up.
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>>719541541
maybe if you are blind
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>>719530854
>final fantasy denuvo
No thanks
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>>719541541
The fuck? No it's not.
You can argue that it's not good or you don't like how it turned out, but it doesn't look close at all to hq4x
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>>719530854
Why does it look like a blurry Unity asset flip?
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>>719542132
Everything matches up silhouette-wise except what I mentioned in my earlier post. The colors were changed and the shading was cleaned up.
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>>719541458
I really liked the scene you get if you bring Karsh to meet Home World Zappa too.
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>>719530854
>rerelease subtitled the ivalice chronicles
>doesn't actually chronicle all the ivalice games, not even just the tactics series



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