>have to compete against FREE media that provides addictive alternative to paid media>paid media decreases in quality and scope year after year until it vanishes entirely>first comics, newspapers, then tv/film, and now games>games were thought to be distinct enough to avoid this trend, but it's finally catching up>kids are playing Roblox or Fortnight>"Gamers" are north of 30 >Japanese final fantasy fans are like 42>"gaming" can't be sustained>future is just streaming slop>AI will make it worse It's super grim and the only way to fix this is by reversing trends which seem inevitable. A parent loves the idea of using fortnight or roblox as a babysitter and it's "free"? Even better than an investment into a PS5.
>>719539558>>AI will make it worsethis is where you're wrong pal
>>719539654AI has already made things worse
All that talk of "gamers are over" from 2014? That was based on the trend of console/pc gaming from 1983-2010 where the audience continually grew. So the thinking was, why do we need to cater to this tiny angry online voices when there's new kids joining the ranks of gamers and we can open up to non-white males? That thinking is flawed as we can see, as the new "gamers' never materialized. Now these gamers are north of 30. So we're stuck in this middle ground where there's millions of diehard gamers who want to play the old way, but the market isn't growing. So you can't ignore them, but also they don't seem to be able to hold up giant mega-projects anymore, which is why many AAA games are being cancelled. >>719539654It will lead to the slopification as we've seen with facebook, youtube, and others. Have you seen an old geezer use facebook? They hop on video reels and it's an endless stream of often AI voices and edited content. None of it is original, it's slop. AI algos reward the fastest produced slop to out compete everyone else in a race to the bottom.Why wouldn't gaming be the same? Ai "games" would just be addicting but shallow tripe endlessly keeping you glued, but not telling any story or meaning anything.
>>719539759That's like saying 3D has made games worse because early 3D games were bad.>>719539770Your IQ is just so low you can't imagine the implications of the technology.>hurr why would the creation of games becoming 100000000x easier affect games positively?
>>719539654I agree with you but it's definitely not going to make it better either. Humanity is just going a phase of quick, radical change. People's times goes by faster and their interests fade quicker. It doesn't help the barrier of entry for the hobby has raised a lot, consoles prices raisin 5 years after release, and graphics cards being worth more than an used car. This feeling of chaos just makes us think the world has died, but in reality is just left us behind.
>>719539868that's deep bro
Op is a faggot.
>>719539558I'm fine with that
>Western corpos sneak in predatory tactics for years>Lobby the shit out of gov't so they don't notice anything beyond their social media>Some Chinese fuckoffs do it tenfold, become supremely popular>Western corpos can't fight them without killing their own industryI started ranting, but westslop brought it upon itself
>>719539868>>719539864Something like Roblox is probably more like the future. It's a platform, and it has user generated content and acts a bit like a social media site or youtube. The company sits back and sets up the garden, and then users do the hard work of making the "game". So you can see how AI tools will make this much easier in the future. We're already seeing gaming being flooded with endless indie tripe, which just makes it harder for any one game to really stand out. Have you seen PS5 game sales? They're pitiful.
>>719539558There is no passion left in the soul of man.It's all about profits.You could literally have a good gaming experience with just a few small but good games every year.But everyone is chasing trends.
>>719540252>user generated contentWhy use their language?It's called child slave labor prove me wrong!
>>719539558I dont know if you guys fully are aware of what Tiktok has done to games. Kids these days probably barely even play them whatsoever. Why put the effort into a game when you can get better and faster dopamine on Tiktok scrolling for hours and hours?
The industry will definitely shrink back to the people who genuinely love video games for the interactive experience of them and we'll be better off for it.
>>719540685And what's wrong with that?
>>719540746There will be no such people, they will all witness ai slop takin all their costumers and quit
>>719540757Nothing at all. I have started hating games over the past few months. Id rather just be lazy as fuck on my phone scrolling all day for instant dopamine no delays
>>719539558>>first comics,the comics thing is fucking hilarious to me because japanese comics and scholastics (remember RIF and the book fair at school?) are selling like hotcakes and DC and marvel somehow are doing so shitty that even sales 10 years ago, which were shit at the time, look great in comparison because for some reason only like literal trannies are writing comics now and it's all political shit. there are some exceptions, like I read this one xmen mini that was written by a woman who was a total gooner that had jubilee, dazler, laura and boom boom in it. jubilee doesn't wear pants at all during the whole story, and most of the girls are dressed up in whore school girl costumes for like half the series. it was based
>>719540794Same games fell like forced labor not fun
>>719540903Yes. They feel like a fucking job. The only reason i was even playing them recently was because they keep my mind active enough and to pass the time faster to when i can eat again.
>>719539558>development cost balloons from a couple of million to hundreds of millions and now even over a billion>"umm... why isn't this sustainable?"I haven't checked in over a decade, but does marketing still take more than the devs, or did the realization they can do it cheap through social media kill that?
>>719540960>development cost balloons from a couple of million to hundreds of millions and now even over a billionSomeone explain this to me because I don't get it.You can get so much free assets scan stuff fast unreal is free up until you make a lot of money.So why is everything more expensive?
>>719539864>100000000x easierMore like 100000000x more streamlined, everything will be generic because everything will use the same tools, anything of substance will be buried underneath piles and piles of garbage, anyone with an ounce of creativity will be forced out by people spitting out the 100000000th iteration of Minecraft, and they'll STILL expect us to pay for it
>>719539558Sort of 'news' reminds me when gaming media was trying to suggest the gaming industry is collapsing and they had that "scream at the sky" thing for devs who were being ousted from their jobs.The gaslight was that it was just some woke AA/AAA devs losing their USAID grift funding and had to cut their losses. Trying to make it seem like it was bigger than it really was, everyone else including asian devs were fine.
>>719540873DC have started to turn things around with their Compact series, the All Star Superman has been a best seller ever since the release of Gunns Superman
>>719541101>everything will be generic because everything will use the same tools,We are already here idiot, and it's because new workflows are hard to make. AI makes it easy to cut to the chase though. It's why AI art is more interesting than what people have been making for years.>anything of substance will be buried underneath piles and piles of garbage,This will never happen or it would have already happened. You aren't even trying to be logical saying this.
>>719539864>That's like saying 3D has made games worse because early 3D games were bad.Except after 3D games became feasible to make, we got SM64 and OoT which became hallmark games.Meanwhile introduction of AI just got fuckton of devs fired from artists to coders. And what we have managed to get are some Foamstar AI art album covers. And that game is dead. As well as Minecraft and Doom that are barely coherent and needs huge servers to run in 8fps.At this point with 3D tools we had like Jumping Flash or at least og Star Fox. And while not most impressive with graphics these days, do you know what they were?FUN GAMES.Show me a FUN GAME made with AI.
>>719539558i dont think you noticed but gaming today is competing against its own pastMost consoomers these days are still hooked on the same Live Service slop from 10 years ago like CS2, Apex, League while refusing to move on, this is why Valve and Blizzard instead of releasing a new game decided to just update the one everyone already hasMost people arnt buying new games and are sticking to old classics due to how readily available they are, companies hate this and would rather just shut down everything made before 2020 just so people have no choice but to buy new slop (this is why the industry threw a giant melty against Stop killing Games campaign)This industries need to have the next Fortnite live service slop became its own doom, theres no room for the market to grow now
>>719541695>Except after 3D games became feasible to make, we got SM64 and OoT which became hallmark games.Exaclty you dumbass. AI hasn't had any real effect on games yet and you're already freaking out like a moron. Incapable of seeing the elephant entering the room.
>>719542039>AI hasn't had any real effect on games yetDespite being used for few years already?All it has done is get people to "save costs". Did transition to 3D get coders and artists fired?
>>719539558>>first comics, newspapers, then tv/filmCapeshit eating subhumans leave /co/ and /tv/ to reduce the quality of all the other boards on 4chan. Posters of /co/ and /tv/ should be banned and their board deleted.
>>719541507It's already happened, look at any distribution platform. Steam, Itch, Newgrounds, all loaded with absolute garbage, and the only ones that stand out are the already-established ones that can afford constant advertising. And guess what they're all setting up to do as well.>It's why AI art is more interesting than what people have been making for years.It's not "more interesting", it's cheaper and more accessible
>>719542032>ana valens
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>>719539558triple shit needs to crash. down with far left activists
>>719542032I honestly realized this pre-2020 already. Asked my one friend if he wanted to replay NWN with me, but said that "it took way too much time". I pointed out that he plays like 4 hours of League every day and he just said "well yeah but it's *my game*."Got instantly that "oh fuck" feeling, as I played TF2 fuckton back then. Now I play Super Smash Bros. Melee competitively and on top of economic factors, I don't really have *time* to play new games. I have few friends who just grind CS2, one who plays Apex, and two of my friends jump to new Live Service games for few months before going back to their challenge OSRS group Ironman.Who the fuck has time or money to play all new releases? Like even if you had money, you sure as hell don't have time after two Live Service games.
>>719543601>he plays like 4 hours of League every daybased
>>719543089>all loaded with absolute garbage,Post 1 good game that was obscured by bad games. I'll wait.
>>719540252>Roblox is probably more like the futureRoblox doesn't make a profit and never will.
>>719539558The anti-gamer rhetoric really bit them in the ass in the end. It just led to everyone hating journos.
>>719543418GIRUGAMESH
>>719541507>why would the creation of games becoming 100000000x easier affect games positively?>This will never happen or it would have already happened. You aren't even trying to be logical saying this.
