https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/serves them right for advertising it so much l mao
>lil ragnaros store pet>celestial steed mount>ragnaros corehound>toys you build stairs to heaven with>released raid content only for the 1% to be capable of doing>p2w vendor, bank, ah, anvil pets you farm inside of stratholme with your prot paladin and vendor the grey itemsahhh yes vanilla
>>719542716turtle sisters our response?
The more of this story is just stop trying to hang on to dead raped franchises and move on, don't give them money, don't give them any attention with mods, let it die.
>>719542769What is there to say? As soon as any private server starts accepting money for any reason, they are running the risk of getting fucked in the ass.I despise Blizzard, but legally they are in the right here, unfortunately. It's probably also in their best interest to take down prominent private servers if they are planning on launching their own Classic+ soon.
>>719542769There's probably some internal threshold a server reaches when they ping on Blizzard's radar. Since they're not in the US there's nothing they can do beyond sending C&D letters, though.
>>719542716nooo but my heckin serverino needs to sell assets stolen from retail and p2w boosts to survive!!
>>719542716shit i have to choose between the paid server where everyone buys gold online, or the free server where you can buy cosmetics & conveniances ?? decisions decisions
>>719543067>conveniances are ok if my tranny server does it
>>719542716as opposed to GDKP, gold selling, and streamers?
damn you can even paint your nails. we are not beating the allegations sisters
>>719543126yes
>>719542345>servers are still upCall me when it does something
>main server filled with chinese who dont even respondok retail pretty much
>>719543201They ain't gona do shit because they can't legally. You fucking know Torta aka Shenna ain't gonna back down from this easy money.
>>719543172
>>719543126Name one (not locally hosted) WoW server without a cash shop
>>719543336Retrowow
>>719543336wallcraft
2 new races, 3 new raids, 8 new dungeons, 12 new zones, but please remember to not play the game it's managed by the Russian mafia and you can buy a bank mull in the shop
>>719542345>happens right after ambershire releases and steals attention from epoch
>>719543242>They ain't gona do shit because they can't legallyBlizzard could relatively easily be able to take down the servers themselves, to the point that they would have to be hosted outside the US and Europe. They would probably have to move the servers to Mexico and Russia in that case.
>>719543431>2 new racescopying blizzard's models into the most soulless 1-10 zones conceived by men isn't really impressive
>>719542345but will blizzard win? lol I doubt it
>>719542716>released raid content only for the 1% to be capable of doingIt's fucking vanillacore bro. Can't be that hard
>>719543476No one thinks this is a coincidence, anon.
>>719542769I don't think Kazakhstan gives a shit about American laws
>>719543617the servers are in bonglandright next to the ascension and ascension (formerly epoch) server rack
>>719543649hmm why are these retards only going after turtle wow? I know there are more europoor wow private servers
>>719543707Like it or not, blizzard has been pretty benevolent with private servers, they allowed them to operate for years without any significant actionTurtleniggers shilled their game too hard on all social media platforms including youtube ads and blizzard just had enough I guess. I expect ascension to be next in line if they don't cancel their ads
>>719543853yeah but warmane is bigger and has more options other than classic. are those troons at blizzard only going after turtle wow because it's smaller, and not as old?
>>719543901the faggot streamers talked about it just like nostralius, no one talks about warmane but everyone knows about them
>>719543901everyone knows warmanes playercounts are fake and they're not aggressively shilling their server. When you have these retards who are advertising on fucking youtube with literal blizzard copyrighted assets, have a cash shop where they sell blizzard assets, and openly advertising that they're porting blizzard assets to ue5 calling it their own game, they pushed it too hard
>>719543968I see. I guess it's their own fault then
>>719542345Surprised it took them this long. Anyone who is privy about private servers (heavily-customized or not) knows how much money there is behind the scenes.
WoW suffering always makes me smile. I love Final Fantasy and still have yet to download and play the MMORPG but somehow you took the tranny title. God bless nuBlizzard and all you retards.
>>719544018depends on what mmorpg you're playing. I used to play EQ EZ and it was all free.
>>719544043Nobody tell him.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO NO NOInsufferable turtle shills get what they deserve.
>>719544114chances are he already transitioned and he doesn't even know it
>>719543853Don't forget they have been fucking antagonizing blizzard on twitter with their gold checkmark account.
>>719542345>>719542716You can get donation points for finishing "-50% exp from kills" challenge.You can get anvil for finishing "you can wear only what you crafted yourself" challengeYou can get mule for finishing "you can wear only white and grey gear" challengeNot like faggot like you could finish anything.
>>719544203that's actually hilarious. I don't play turtle wow but fuck blizzard
I might actually donate to turtle wow to help them legally. there's a chance blizzard might not even win the lawsuit
>>719544225kys shill tranny
>>719544203Based. Blizzard deserves it.
>>719544292>there's a chance blizzard might not even win the lawsuitIf you believe this you are actually delusional.
>>719544292There's absolutely zero chance they'll win the lawsuit. The question is will it matter
>>719544225Not true, ask you're mom.
>>719544302I just stated what you can do, how is that shilling? Not agreeing with your insane faggot ramble is shilling?
>>719544324maybe you should look it up yourself instead of being ignorant. you're probably a dumb far left faggot too
>>719544292I'm sure the company with Microsoft behind them will lose the lawsuit against a bunch of cuck devs who are making money off their product
>>719544225By this argument no gacha is p2w because you can probably eventually get everything on free rolls.
>>719542345Owner lives in Russia so good luck with that.
>>719544387how exactly are they making the money?
>>719542345they should just make their own game if they have gone that far
>>719544431Why do retards like you spawn in every thread acting like you know something that no one else does
>>719544225They hated you because you told the truth.Seriously though what do these niggers think is superior?>Retail>Chinese goldsellers>Bots>outright said they'll never do a vanilla WoW server>Ascension>Classless>not vanilla wow>Epoch>Great Value Turtle
>these are the mounts and companions fags are crying about
>>719544435Turtle has a cashshop with cosmetics and a few p2w "conveniences".
Oh nice, another thread made by mentally ill freak.Meanwhile, I finished High Elf zone, time for classic Elwynn-Westfall-Death in Deadmines route
>>719544520To mock retards like (You) that only need to be told a basic fact to give me another (You). I'm already samefagging in this very thread. Or am I? You'll never know.
>>719544531they should just have donations that give you points for free shit in their shop.
>>719544435They have a donation system and a cash shop.
>this is the "p2w" shopRemember when "p2w" meant buying akimbo shadowmournes?
>>719544579the cash shop is really what's going to get them (if they even care) isn't it?
>>719542345I called this out like 3 weeks ago when people were shilling Turtle.
>>719544421You can get 2 of the items faggot op complains about and 150 points on one character. Extremely hard, but you can. You can't get everything in gacha, because new shit releases faster than you get free rolls.
>>719544607people have been shilling turtle ever since I can remember. and it's been years
>>719542970They have their US guy who's already been abandoned. He can either eat millions in debt or assist Blizzard to label the primary admin, who's been doing this for 10 years, as an international criminal.
>>719544629I'm so glad it's soon to be over, I hope they all kill themselves.
Best case scenario: Lose payment vendors and hosting. Akalix becomes scapegoat.Worst case: Extradition, life in prison.
>>719544658that's exactly how I feel about blizzard. they have destroyed their IPs that were once great and turned them into activist faggot heaven
>>719544641They might want to list actual legal names on their lawsuit instead of a bunch of monikers and fake handles.How's it feel to know Turtle ownership is outside of US jurisdiction just like Ascension?
>>719544585the shill had to login start recording and converting and uploading
>>719544431>Owner lives in Russia so good luck with that.What matters is where the servers are hosted. Not where the owner is located, you bozo.
>>719544703They do have legal names in the complaint. It's great.
>>719544706Guess where they're hosted?Guess where server hosting exists?I know, I know, it blows Americans minds when they're reminded a world exists outside their borders.
>>719542345>throws in an argument for a RICO conspiracy for good measureThey are really getting the big guns, huh. I dunno how far it'll go since turtle wow is apparently based in hong kong. The individuals cited might get in trouble, except the ones living in russia.
>>719544608That you can acquire a 36 slot bag through months of tedium doesn't invalidate the accusation of p2w bro. As long as some dude can get that through hard cash it'll remain p2w.
>>719544585>Remember when "p2w" meant buying akimbo shadowmournes?It's still means the same shit. It's just this particular schizo is underage waste of space, who never played mmos back then.
>>719544731What a shame they listed staff email names as "actual names". Womp womp. Screenshot my post so you can look back at it and know one member allegedly on the lawsuit was here to take the piss.
>>719543476shenna was retarded enough to run ads on social media when epoch went live. not the smartest tranny he is
>>719544787They have Akalix from his linkedin
>>719544585>akimbo shadowmournesok that was pretty funny i give you that. blizzard, let turtle wow get a pass they are aight
>>719544750It's not a pay 2 win by definition.If you want this bag so much, for some reason, you can get 300 points by leveling two slow and steady characters. If that takes months, then you suck.
>>719543494>the most soulless 1-10 zones conceived by menyou know i never thought i'd honestly see a more depressing, lifeless, soulless zone than vanilla desolacethen i made a goblin on twow and got put on a lifeless rock in the middle of the ocean
>>719544737>Guess where they're hosted?UK, Singapore and Peru will all very likely side with Blizzard/Activision/Microsoft instantly. I don't know why you think you had some kind of "heh, gotcha" moment there.>I know, I know, it blows Americans minds when they're reminded a world exists outside their borders.I am from Denmark.
>>719544837>They got one retard that didn't wear a condomThere'll probably be a handful to follow and business goes on as it always has.
>>719544737Currently they're hosted in the UK. A country with IP laws. I also don't think you understand how fucking ass it is to host servers outside the civilized world. Even ignoring lag, there's a significantly increased chance that some dude you gave a bunch of money each month will get funny ideas in his lawless land. For example even when the wolves were at the door the pirate bay kept their severs in Sweden rather than moving them to Russia.
>>719542345>sucking up to corporations>microshaft-actishizzard of all corposgo away shill
>>719544885Swings and misses. Other anon at least knew there are some servers in Hong Kong.Do you believe something as large and old as Turtle hasn't put on a condom to protect itself from legal AIDS that are open and closed precedents?
>p2w, retaili sleep>p2w, private server@BLIZZARD @MICROSOFT @ACTIVISION @FBI DO SOMETHING!!!!
They sell gold and premade 60s.They make Blizzard look bad by being terrible coders, they're going to get examined under oath on every bugged path, loot drop, and interaction in the game. Then they'll have to argue that it doesn't make Blizzard look bad to put their company logo on said shitty coding and get ordered to pay over $100m damages.
>>719544885>UKmaybe but the rest lol? why the fuck would they side with Microsoft?
>>719544926It's a European server for a reason, anon. Thirdworld shitholes aren't beholden to US law and many have set the precedent of doing absolutely nothing for US courts.
>>719544873Pay to win is when you can pay real money for items or conveniences that other players have to play for. It's not just when you can buy an item only available through the cash shop.
>>719544895So they got him. He has to either take sole responsibility or comply with Blizzards Lawyers to identify the conspiracy. Stay mad. They'll be hunted like Saddam Hussein.
>>719544954>Swings and misses. Other anon at least knew there are some servers in Hong Kong.I specifically didn't mention the servers in Hong Kong and Russia, because I don't think those are in any danger.
>>719544971blizzard looks bad because they're terrible transvestites, and have tools that do the coding for them
>>719545010>He has to do what I say because I said it>my jumps to conclusions are empiricalGood luck with that
>>719545000You really think the UK will defend such a flagrant IP abuse? Why?
>>719544971I don't there there is any power in the universe that can make blizzard worse than they do themselves
>>719544983>why the fuck would they side with Microsoft?There's this weird thing called laws, especially copyright laws and IP laws. Maybe if you were older than 12 years old, you would have heard about it.
T R O O N T L EKEKEK!!!!
>>719545057Do you think continued survival hinges upon the UK? Why?If not, why answer a question that has no relevance?
>>719543581Kara40 (the raid above Naxx they released) IS harder than vanilla players are used to, but mostly it's just retarded and unfun>final boss constantly shackles the entire raid and if any single person moves at all (in a 40-man raid, several times per encounter), the entire raid wipes instantlyfuck off with that
I dont wanna pirate wow, I just want vanillaBlizzard: *releases vanilla*Okay you got me lol, I’m a third worlder peasant with no money
>>719545081It's rude to answer a question with a question you know.
>>719545061it's more complex than you think. if you automatically think microcock and blizzard are going to win then you're probably the 12 year old
>>719545004>Pay to win is when you can pay real money for items or conveniences that other players have to play for.No, that's your schizo definition. Pay to win is when you can buy an advantage over other players. Gear, boosts, consumables, buffs. This kind of stuff. Bigger bag doesn't give you "win".
>>719545116>Does the UK have any bearing on Turtle's future?No.Do pigs fly yet?
>>719544957redpill me on those gold boosters, what do they do with the gold? trade it over accounts and then delete the characters
>>719545102I played on classic release in 2019. Now I play on twow. Fuck Blizzard.
>>719545130>Pay to win is when you can buy an advantage over other players. Gear, boosts, consumables, buffsNah that's just your schizo definition. If anyone can gain any advantage over me by paying money then that is p2w. Cosmetics are okay.
>>719545102don't give blizzard your money they don't deserve it
>>719545197It unironically pays more in third-world shitholes to RMT gold than it does to work a 9-5.
>>719545201>Nah that's just your schizo definition.Take meds, retard.
>>719545101>not moving is hard for nillersI guess it would be since you can no longer skip all (2) mechanics by killing the boss in seconds like in the original raids
>>719545129Not that anon but enlighten us Mr. Lawman. Explain how it's more complex, flex your knowledge that you clearly possess.
>>719545102>blizzard's vanilla>look inside>body type 1/2>cosmetic e-shop>/spit emote removed>pride shit in the launchershan't be funding this.
>>719545156I honestly can't be bothered to unpick what the fuck you're arguing for or against now buddy
>>719545265Not him but entire countries have firmly set the precedent of telling western powers and courts to fuck off.
>>719545265are you seriously asking me why lawsuits are complex? go look it up yourself dip shit
>>719545261>r*dditoh no no no no no...
>>719545129>it's more complex than you thinkCare to enlighten me?>if you automatically think microcock and blizzard are going to win then you're probably the 12 year oldCan you give me any reason(s) why they would NOT just instantly side with them?
>>719545261>reddit as a source
>>719542345so true sister
>>719545264back when I played we still cleared it every week, but it's a retarded mechanic to hoist on a 40-man raid of boomers used to vanilla raids where you can always carry one or two shitters
>>719545308>"it's more complex than you think!">elaborate >"no"
>>719545212You dont have money>>719545270Cope
>>719545314>That's your definition>No, it's not, look here>REDDIT REDDIT OHNONONOSeek help, before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Blizzard laying down the long dick of the law. Make sure you purchase the epic edition of Midnight
>>719542345our wholesome server is under attack, please donate to our offshore bank account
>>719545228What? Is that after you pay your Paladin tax of all your disposable income on transmogs?>>719545349>Own name visibleDo you forget who you are?
>>719542716Isnt this just retail? At least in private servers they try to fight the bots and gold sellers.
>>719545273Gist is that the UK doesn't matter. Genuinely. Not as a 'gotchya' or 'lol I don't care'. You may as well ask what'll happen if North Korea shut down its Turtle infrastructure.
>Gold seller monetizes private servers
>>719545325I'll take google result over unstable schizo definition.
>>719545408reminder that pic related got booted for being a troon
>"pfft they can't do shit we aren't in the us they can't touch us!" said every fangame or third party service shut down over the last 30 years
>>719542345we must seize the monopoly on vanilla private servers comrades
>>719545363>Lawsuits can be complex due to multiple parties involved, intricate legal issues, and extensive documentation and evidence that need to be reviewed. Additionally, they often require the coordination of various attorneys and experts, which can make the process lengthy and costly.if you weren't so stupid you could have looked it up yourself
>>719545435Bro it's fucking reddit, even ignoring that 4chan hates reddit it's a site anyone can spout moronic opinions. It's like me sourcing this very post as hard fact.
I want blizzard to lose, so this faggot posting same shit every thread would kill himself
>>719543617Microsoft with their infinite money can just evade any laws.
>>719545414Imagine some pajeet debating actually scam calling for a living because it pays more than the $3 a day an honest job may give. Farming gold to sell it, usually through an account they phished, pays more than honest work so that's why they're so numerous.
>>719542345please upvote!!!
>>719545375I have more money than you and I'm also straight you cock sucking faggot. anyone who defends blizzard is a homosexual
>>719545375>Copestill not giving blizzard a cent, blizztroon!
Turtle wow sold all it's userdata and passed it off as a hack.
>>719545429All I've got from this post is that you seemingly don't like the UK? Alright? It's got some very nice countryside and spectacular ancient architecture so I'm not entirely sure I agree.
>>719545490does blizzard even know the people behind twow?
>>719545502I get $3 in like 2 minutes. Try a skilled job lmao what are you even talking about?
>>719545482Pay to win got a known definition for decades, that even retards from reddit know it. Don't fucking try to to change it to suit your schizo shit.
lmfao nobody's playing retail anymore so they have to shut down pservers, exact same thing happened to Nost
>>719545480>this retard just asked chatgpt to summarize why lawsuits are complexFunniest shit in this thread
>>719545558Anon I don't know if you're merely pretending or not but the bottom line is the UK and their courts and the US reaching out to their courts regarding TurtleWoW has 0 relevance to TurtleWoW's continued operation.
>>719545598open AI actually. any one with a brain knows why lawsuits are complex you fuck dumb troon
>>719545564They know Torta's name. Fucks from vg found her photos.
>>719545480>@grok why are lawsuits complex
Shenna/Torta lostNo more vacations to european countries bitch.You're gonna get the handcuffs at the airport.I hope they get that Akalix nigger shill organiser too.
>>719545461This is like beggars fighting over places to beg in
>>719545532if you put any of your personal data on a pserver's account, even something as minute as the same email you use to sign up for real games, then you are an inbred retard
>>719545594It has nothing to do with retail. It has to do with Blizzard wanting to launch their own versions. Nostalrius was shut down for Classic. Turtle WoW(and maybe others) will be shut down for Classic+.
>>719545571They're third-world shitholers, anon. They work for pennies on the dollar and that's the best they get in their homeland. Chang has to afford his Xiao long bao some way.
>>719545623Are you pretending? You're sourcing fucking reddit. I laughed out loud when you did that
>>719545642why do you hope this? Microsoft and blizzard are horrible corporations
>>719545679don't repost that here, jannies don't like that
>>719545679Yeah I'm sure this is real anon, the multinational billion dollar corporation would never make frivolous claims that can't be defended in a lawsuit
>>719545679doxxing people is illegal and won't hold up in court. it can't be considered real evidence
>>719545689Shenna is a crooked bitch with a long history of running scams
>>719545689You know I can hate both blizzard and the literal niggers thieving the work of actual good devs from 2004 and making money off of it right?
>>719545509>I have so much money>Which is why I pirate videogames>>719545521Okay monkey
>>719545480>intricate legal issues, and extensive documentation and evidence that need to be reviewed.They have that. >Additionally, they often require the coordination of various attorneys and experts, They have that too. >which can make the process lengthy and costly.They have teams of lawyers on retainer and legal fees are a rounding error to megacorps.
>>719545689They're jeet shills who work for them
Shame, turtle is better than blizz vanilla.
>>719545723Not that guy but the fact that they didn't just wait for names in discovery shows that Blizzard or Activision already knows everything. There's a 99% chance it's already over.
>>719545748the only games I pirate are from the Golden age and younger, and I haven't played warmane in over a decade
>>719545683Anon I don't know who you have me confused with but I didn't mention reddit nor do I browse there short of a quick technical DIY question. I'm sorry the UK wasn't as much of a linchpin as you thought.
>>719545739Turtle works great though. She banned you and now you are acting like a cunt?
>>719545723Why do you turtle bros get so defensive over the torta is shenna fact? An extremely open secret for years
>>719545740>You know I can hate both blizzard and the literal niggers thieving the work of actual good devs from 2004You mean Blizzard and Blizzard? The actual vanilla devs probably play Turtle
>>719545642>No more vacations to european countrieslol!
>>719545102Classic is not vanilla though, if it is not on actual vanilla client it can fuck right off.
>>719545802Ah sorry bro I was baiting two retards at once while playing some deadlock.
>>719545786A friendly reminder they think Kaptein is a real last name and decided to throw Racketeering at Turtle as a charge.
>>719545815It's made up by Blizzard shills trying to discredit the server
>>719545828Dave Fried does
>>719545803No, I don't even play her server, I hate from way back in the Elysium days when she and Crogge used to sell gold, gear and level boosts under the table and they used that money to take vacations in exotic places
>>719545740idk man I hate blizzard with every fiber in my being even over 3rd world shit skinned scammers
ascension (featuring epoch) won
>troondle fags get criticism>"BUT BLIZZARD">"BUT RETAIL"like clockwork. is this in your shill briefing?
>>719545884Well, I enjoy playing turtle.
>>719545870>A friendly reminder they think Kaptein is a real last nameBut it is a real last name.
>>719545863Respectable. May your lobby's heaviest anchor be on the other team.
>>719545874What's the issue? I played Turtle for like a year and nobody had a problem with the torta=shenna fact. But now there's a lawsuit the turtlecord is banning all mention of this.
>>719545884Nobody cares bro because Turtle is better than anything Blizzard can shit out. None of your coping stops this being fact.
>>719544585do YOU remember when p2w meant VIP items with x2 stats the f2p could get? the "westerners" moved on when we realized they were getting fucked and it was ruining the game >corpos: hey pay us X and you get this VIP item that makes you own the poors haha >that seems unfair >corpos: ok how about you pay us X and you get all the best items right away! Poors can get them too if they work hard enough hehe >that seems unfair corpos: ok how about you pay us X and you get the stuff faster! No power! Just instant level up, super convenience that allows you to get power faster >that seems unfair this is when corpos admit defeat and start selling cosmetics only if you don't get this you're a chinky gook or brown
>>719545940I can assure you my last name isn't Kaptein. It's in my email though.
>>719545928What criticism? For selling least p2w shit in cash shop? I'm totally fine with it.
>i don't like blizzard so that means ip law doesn't exist and if you disagree you are a shill
>>719545958It's gone sister. All your time investment, POOF
>>719545928the whole point of this lawsuit is "blizzard is losing money to (according to blizzard) an inferior player experience :(((" are you dumb?
>>719545989Shenna sells the good stuff aka gold and generated t3.5 characters under the table to the chinks thoughbeit.
>>7195459892 turtle coins have been added to your account
>>719542345Was it Ambershire launch with 13000 players that pissed Blizzard off, UE wow or something else.Turtle has been a thing for a decade now, they had more than enough time to sue?
>>719545982you are arguing with an indian shillblizztroons pay a premium for their box price so they don't get stuck 3 days behind everyone else with a smile on their face
>>719546015>Refuse to give players a true Vanilla+ experience>dedicate to the poopsock loop>no horizontal content>'when classic server???'>"You don't want that">"You think you do but you dont"
>>719546027Never happened on turtle
Hey Shenna answer my email you lying bitch it has been two weeks
>>719545987Nice larp faggot
>>719546009stop shilling blizzard faggot. I bet you suck Nintendos dick too when they launch cease and desist orders to people who aren't breaking the law only they can't afford a multimillion dollar lawsuit
>>719546034Turtle running ads on official WoW videos and their gold marked twitter account antagonizing or taunting official Blizzard accounts
>>719545679The purpose of naming Torta as Shenna is to include Shennas damages in the claim. This isn't limited to Turtle, it's going all the way back to Elysium.
>>719546009This reminds me of the Nexon vs Ironmace thing about Dark and Darker. People here were fully convinced that Nexon would outright lose the lawsuits, just because they couldn't see past their hate for Nexon(which is warranted, of course).
>>719546013>All your time investment, POOFWhat does this even mean? What time investment?
>>719546090Just imagine what MicroActiBlizzard will feel about it when they realize they listed a bunch of firstnamelastname@fuck.com handles and thought they were real.
>>719546075Whatever you say Crogge
should I be worried that I donated around $200?
>>719546171I wonder what the judge will think?>huh, these people really are as incompetent as everyone thinks
>>719546171>he thinks some of the best IP-related lawyers in the world belonging to multi-billion dollar companies didn't do their actual researchStop living in fairytale land.
>>719546207why the fuck did you do that retard?
>let's steal and profit off of blizzard's assets>better yet! lets port them to unreal engine and make it open source for everyone to steal too!
>have to pay real money to change ypur hair style
>>719546207You're on the list
>>719546075how can you fucking know. we now know with certainty who operates the server and what they did on their previous servers. you should now have doubt about turtle if you're not a fucking drone
>>719546207Server infrastructure is already hosted in a place other servers that Blizzard has swung the legal team at and survived are located. You're fine.
>>719546207why would you care?
Alexsensual won.
Breaking the law is good and American law doesn't apply to turtle because Shenna is Russian.Cry more. I know you think jews have magical powers and control the world, but turtle isn't going anywhere.
>>719546218lmfao SAAAAAAAARNUMBA ONE BEST LAW OFFICER SAAAR!
Let's pretend it's not a personal vendetta of some mentally unstable idiot.Objectively turtle gives mePretty stable server, high online, interesting challenges with worthy rewards, nice hc community, tame cash shop, new content not based around faggot centaurs.Why would I dislike it? I've played a lot and had zero problems, here are my hc characters.
>>719546218>>719546216See. They didn't do it, they thought they did, but they got ahead of themselves in the stupidest way you could ever imagine because they wanted to intimidate and just showed they're toothless instead. Internet communities did their jobs for them regarding some individuals that appear to have history and bad infosec.
>>719546235you realise barbershops only got implemented in wrath and you needed to buy recostumizations to change literally anything about your character right?
>>719546290You are the "saar" here if you genuinely have convinced yourself that Turtle is 100% safe in this situation. Only a completely uneducated third worlder would think so.
>>719546285>because Shenna is RussianAnd everyone else on the team are US/EU citizens so they're fucked retard.She can't run the server alone lmao
>>719546171You're absolutely fucking retarded if you don't think they've had dudes in the turtle discord sever for months before pulling this. Probably even deeper than that. How do you know that any of the Russian devs turtle have weren't offered a fraction of a BTC for some info?
>>719545815I honestly have no idea.
>>7195463341) Yes she literally could run it in the current state alone.2) You lose soldiers in war.
>>719546307>dozen alts all abandoned throughout the leveling processwhy are classic andies like this?
>>719546340Yeah, because we're just telling eachother our real names all the time. Lol, lmao.
>>719546171how did you get my email
>>719546384The larping is embarrassing man...
>>719546075HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>719546307>I'm a paid shill, here's the proof and why my input on the matter means something.
>>719546401>don't you know they infiltrated ur discord?>wow that means they have everythingTruly
>>719546098Literally fucked around and found out.>>719546207You should kill yourself instead, retard.
>>719546307>nice hc communityshame the hardcore filth doesnt have it's own containment serverso sick of niggers 6 levels above taking all the tags
>>719546425They have the real names and residency of everyone yes. Read the lawsuit and pray you're not one of them.
>>719546307Wow anon, I'm glad to know your unbiased opinion after seeing that you committed to 10 different characters on the server.
>>719546334She can get more people from russia to run it then, move servers out of us legal reach too if need be.
>>719546207On the list for permanent retail ban
>>719546486>committed>highest level is 41
>>719546484They listed Dread Captain Robert several times in a row. Sucks to be him.
>>719546493Russians aren't people. They don't have the skill and knowledge required.Server is donezo.
>>719546493They have to pay for server security such as DDos protection, they pay like $10,000 - $15,000 per week
>>719546498oh no, i won't ever be able to do nu-blizz's BLM and trans rights quests, what a shame!
>>719546383They are all hc characters, I prefer to switch between them. It feels better to have a backup character when one dies, instead of going back to lv1.>>719546407>I'm a paid shillBecause voices in your head said so?>>719546529Highest is the one who finished hc.
>>719546554That's not a separate service on enterprise servers, anon.
>>719546493"just move the server lol" isn't quite as bulletproof an idea as you might think bro.
>oh, sorry, you're a scammer o algo I can't play world of warcraft on your server, it'sa moral issue.....slava ukrana!!!
>>719546620>Host says they won't host you anymore>implying you cannot set up the same container on a new host
>>719546620It obviously will impact ping, but it is still better than not having a server at all.
Pidorashka moment
I wanna see a Metal Gear game where snake is deployed into Russia on orders from Blizzard to take down private servers of WoW. He has to fight tons of weird trannies with superpowers as well as a giant robot made from servers.
>>719545102>I dont wanna pirate wow, I just want vanilla>Blizzard: you think you want, but you don't>WTF YES YES I DO WANT YES ALSO #NOCHANGES>Blizzard: *releases vanilla*>Okay you got me lol I want vanilla but with a modern client and new shit
>>719546659You can host the server on Mars, but your devs live in countries where the authorities will buttfuck them so it doesn't matter.
>>719546493What if I told you anon, that because of other private servers being struck with the legal hammer, Turtle has already been running outside of that legal hammer's reach for years?
>>719546734What's the problem then? Like sure retards who were in countries of us legal reach get fucked but nothing else will happen.
>>719542345They will NOT tolerate anyone creating better games than them.Now pay up for your far-left activist slop.
>>719546724The server, ownership and most staff are completely out of reach nomatter what Olympic pitcher Blizzard brings up to start throwing books around. That's life.>but- but- what about those two?!What about 'em? How small do you think Turtle is internally? One of them is in Russia to boot, good luck with that extradition.
>>719546817But retail mogs troontle entirely?
>>719546715There's also the irritation of having to deal with third worlders hosting servers. Russia is an especially bad idea, most European nations would question you taking money from their citizens and transferring it into some shady looking wow knockoff in Russia.
>>719546825>The server, ownership and most staff are completely out of reachWhat exactly are you basing this belief off of?
>blizzard shits the bed and turns their shitty attempt at classic+ into retail->GRRRR PRIVATE SERVERS DID THIS
>>719546801Literally no problem. Doomers gonna doom and peer into their mystical orb to deliver unfounded prophecies. Turtle is hosted predominantly out of countries that have a longstanding precedent of telling American courts either absolutely nothing from a total lack of communication on their end or to fuck off.
Um, i kinda want to creampie Sheena?
>>719546801There is no problem. One or two retards who knowingly worked for an international criminal enterprise without opsec will get in trouble and we'll keep playing turtle wow.
>>719546825Literally everyone named in the lawsuit except for Shenna is in the US/EU moron.
>>719546864
I'm going to be honest here for a moment. If Blizzard made something like Turtle, I wouldn't pay either, not because I'm poor but because I don't want to give them money.Simple as.
>>719546882Knowledge the typical person isn't privy to. You don't have to believe it because it'll all be proven true when Blizzard's outreach for cooperation is met by radio silence.
You dumb niggers, the server is a 50GB database and some software. You can rehost that shit in 30 minutes. Worst case scenario there will be a small rollback and we'll have worse pings
>>719546943Cope post from a troontle marketer
>>719546938>>719546931Fucking LOL, honestly.
>>719546938Good thing they're real names and not just assumed to be real names from a firstnamelastname@ email format.Very odd these 'real people' have all been identified as US/EU residents.
I'll still be playing turtle this time next year.
>>719546825Bro at the very minimum this lawsuit being successful would make it difficult if not impossible to operate in the US. That's 300m of the worlds richest people gone. Poof.
>>719546964>Knowledge the typical person isn't privy toSo you have nothing, got it.
>>719546983And who will be developing new content and the promised UE5 client?>*crickets*
>>719546983yeah, just like nostalrius broswait.......
>cash shopinto the trash it goes
>>719545679>shaguThe guy that made some addons? Holy kek that's unfortunate.
>>719547024They bend the knee willingly.
>>719547016It already is. IP law in the US is beholden to US courts.This is why literally every other private server that has been threatened by Blizz's legal team is still running so long as they don't operate in a country willing to work with US courts.
>>719547014>and not just assumed to be real names from a firstnamelastname@ email format.I have seen you say this multiple times in this thread. Do you have any proof for this, or is it just schizo theories?
>>719546964lmao faggot. I've got insider information that your mother is a stupid whore. Don't ask me to prove this. Just know I'm very smug about it.
>>719546659They will stop hosting only if they get an appeal to court or otherwise threatened (il)legally.>>719542345People ITT dont get they HAVE to sue no matter what, win or lose.
>>719547024nostalrius were a bunch of turboretards who actually thought they'd get hired to work on blizzard's classic (they didn't)
>>719546721Vanilla was already running on Legion's client.
>>719547024Shenna is about to shut down willingly in hopes of getting hired by Blizzard? Wait....but Torta said the server isn't going anywhere?!
>>719547018Watch how it plays out or rather the lack of anything happening. They couldn't even list real names on their own lawsuit and the internet proved better at finding a few of them than their professional legal team.
>>719547014Yeah the billion dollar corporation Microsoft that doesn't have the best lawyers and private investigators in the world totally couldn't figure out who a bunch of mid-20s retards sitting on a discord with no opsec whatsoever are.
>>719547056Retail literally runs cash shop too, been since late TBC. Where have you been?
>>719547023By the time I'm tired of the current content they'll find some ziggers to work on it. Long term the quality might drop without white people working on it but that's not some dramatic shutdown like people imagine
>>719547078Screenshot the post and wait. Or just keep it in the back of your mind. 'Member that staff was here to laugh at the lawsuit should staff emails leak.
The absolute state of blizzard
>>719547112They can subpoena ID information from ISPs, the troontle website, discord, etc.Microsoft also has backdoors in all windows devices
>>719547123They literally couldn't. Fucking vg managed to dredge up a real identity/dox while Microactiblizzard made a bold assumption based off what they had.
>>719547071As far as I can recall the only pserv to be slapped was nost. And even that was merely a C&D.
>>719547234ok schizo
>>719544585So are these items one time things or reusable?
>pajeet sees company file case>"SAAR MICROJEET ARE VERY POWERFUL SAAR YOU ARE FUCKY FUCKED AND GUILTY NOW PLEASE FLY FROM YOUR VILLAGE IN ROMANIA TO CALIFORNIA AND DO THE NEEDFUL SAAAAAR
>>719547189No. Answer my question. Do you have any proof for your claims that none of the names are real?
>>719547229Tell me more about your LARP where Turtle will be the exception to Blizzard lawsuits being dead in the water despite having intended to shut down Ascension how many times over how many years?Not like you knew about those anyways.
Now they should hit in Ascension and Warmane.
>>719547110yeah bro, when >she's served the legal papers >she's going to be all "nah, fuck this teehee :) let's keep this shit running!" and leave it at that>heh gl finding me I'm behind 9 proxies and TOR :))))))))
>>719542345deserved. Shouldn't have nerfed the tents, faggots.
>>719547262>Zigger sees american company sueing some random whore from Moscow>BLYAT PUTIN WILL PROTECT HER CYKA US CAN'T TOUCH US BABUSHK-ACK
>>719542716>released raid content only for the 1% to be capable of doingSOVL
you VILL stop playing unofficial serversyou VILL resubscribe to CLASSICyou VILL buy the 90 dollar dinoyou VILL fund our devs' daycare arts & crafts destress workshopsyou VILL fund our HRT programs
>>719547253It's all over this thread and it came from the general. Sorry fax don't care about ur feels bucko>>719547269I'm not giving any. When you see a thread about the lawsuit, remember what I told you. It was dead in the water before it ever listed off a totally real and accurate name.
>>719547112Bro there's nothing more tedious than some faggot on 4chan going "just wait i'll be proved right!!!!!". You won't be believed. 4chan posts and identities are entirely disposable
>>719547283Blizzard has gotten multiple servers and botting programs shut down and none skilled nearly as hard as troontle
>>719547296Shenna lives in a country that is literally at war with the US. Turtle going down is as likely as Putin being arrested.
>>719547369Where were they hosted?Where's Ascension hosted?How many times has it been sued?Where's Turtle hosted?Retard.
>>719547356>I'm not giving anySo you have no clue about anything. I accept your concession.
>>719547349>hohol thinks I'm a fellow slav(e)
>>719542892But Blizzard isn’t even offering a service people want anymore. If you really want a classic server you can’t even play classic retail anymore. We’re at Classic Pandaria. The fucking audacity of that statement should be apparent to anyone that Blizzard doesn’t even understand the concept of “classic” at all. Never mind there’s so many variants of WoW right now the entire player base is split between all of them.
>>719547110>Torta said the server isn't going anywhere?!oh yeah shenna is definitely not going to abandon a private server and start a fresh one for the *checks notes* seventh time..
>>719547394It doesnt matter where it's hosted when the devs are getting raped in prison
>>719547353Sorry, the HRT programs are reserved for troondle staff.
>>719547403>Do nothing>Blizz seriously thinks Kaptein is a real fucking name>Get proven right anywaysOdd way to view a concession.
Blizzard is desperate, they're skipping straight to lawsuit instead of C&D. Guess they need the money now, lol.
>>719547415Oh damn, that's crazy.....I'll be playing snail wow when it launches then? LOL?
what's the best single player wotlk project? Azerothcore? Or cmangos? Ideally I'd like dungeons and raids to scale enemy HP and damage down for solo play, is this possible at all? I've found Solocraft but that's a private vanilla server
>>719547420Cry about it while fantasizing about buttsex more, fag.
>>719547412But pandaria is more popular than troontle WoW, so obviously it is the service people wantAnd of course retail completely blows all the classic slop out of the water in popularity
Why now?
>>719547471more like Retard WoW.
>>719547440Proof or stfu
>>719547491>But pandaria is more popular than troontle WoW,bro is comparing non-existent player numbers with manipulated player numbersyou can't make this shit up
>>719547504You can't touch Shenna, jew lmaoRetail sucks btw lol
>>719546307>Why would I dislike it?>>719546383>>719546407>>719546453>>719546486>not a single actual answer
>>719547492>Check out private server>looks as populated as a launch day expansion on a Tuesday at 2 in the morning>no fotm reset>Check out official server you put a lot of work into>it's fucking dead
kek what's up with the fucking zigger in this thread thinking some shitty private server is untouchable compared against microsoft
>>719547440Kaptein IS a real last name, you fucknut. I already told you. It's Dutch.>FamilySearch has over 209,000 records related to the Kaptein surname, including historical documents.
>>719547551They're literally Microsoft employees(indians)
>>719547492oh, no reason... a coincidence i'm sure
>>719547492>Why now?Nostalrius was in preparation for Classic. This might be in preparation for Classic+.
>>719547560They just genuinely dont know who owns ActiBlizz now.
>>719547564What a stupid fucking last name. Thank fuck I'm not Dutch.
>compared againstGOOD MORNING SIR
>>719547545Are you really so delusional to think that MoP isnt more popular than anything else classic right now?
Blizzard is so powerful that it only took one game release from them for me to completely abandon the concept of remakes entirely.
>>719547492f2p and release on steam so they can suck dem steam market money
>>719547649so your source is your gut feeling mixed with blizzard cultbrain. thanks for confirming.
>>719547621Anon, they could be RaytheonDarpaMicroActiBlizz, that's not gonna stop a third-world shithole at odds with the US from not even sending a reply when corroboration is needed to move anything forward. Especially when that thirdworld shithole was chosen for its longstanding tradition of radio silence.
>>719547492Because troontle was shilling everywhere, tons of jeet marketers pushing their server
>>719547649MoP is dogshit, so yes. Even classic shit is better.
>>719547620Nostalrius is a stupid nameIt sounds like they tried to turn the word nostalgia into some random fuckoff fantasy name
>>719547686Its plainly obvious based off WCL numbers mop has multiple times more players than any shitty pserver has come close to, and thats before accounting for the fact that troontle faked their numbers>>719547748MoP completely mogs anything vanilla or troontle lmao
>>719547649>B-b-but it has good rai-I'm not even in disagreement but you're a fucking retard if you think MoP classic is more popular than so much as their Remixed server.
>>719547781low iq posthidden
>>719547658It's crazy how different the Diablo 2 remake is to the WC3 remake. Both were outsourced to third party studios but the Diablo 2 one ended up being incredibly good and even improved upon the original with a few QoL things.Meanwhile the WC3 remake literally attempted to destroy as much as possible from the original. How the fuck did Blizzard not see the stark difference between those two projects while they were happening simultaneously?
Sheena is fucked, lmao!
>>719547781>MoP completely mogs anything vanilla or troontle lmaoNo high elves no play.
>>719547818>b-b-buy Diablo 2 Reforged! It's toootally not bad!Not falling for it.
>>719547818WC remake didn't even have an art director to make sure it's visually cohesive whereas the original had three.They definitely didn't keep tabs on development otherwise they wouldn't have bricked a perfectly working game to release one whose map browser consumes more resources than the game itself.How bad they fucked that up turned me into a single issue Blizzard hater.
>>719547804>more popular than so muchThanks you sar for the needful defending turtle wow very good yes5 rubles for you saar
>>719544563Not sure why these people feel the need to shill for any side... I just started (new player) on the pvp server. Got invited into a guild, got a couple professions, traded some stuff so bros can craft their armors and weapons. Now I'm preparing to do some dungeons and bgs. Also, I've been grouping up with randoms for most difficult quests. Feels so much more alive than the official shit. I've had fun in the first 20 lvls. Meanwhile, I got bored with retail and classic before even finishing the first zone.
>>719547781MoP is unplayable. It's worse than cata.
>>719547964You might need to retake K-8 again. I think your English dropped off so hard you mistake perfect form for retard speak just because you're that retarded. You sure showed me.
>>719547889I'm not even a brown smelly jeet, but I unironically like act 3 the most now because of how much better the aztec temples look. For me it's like a whole new area
>>719548021Thats not proper English you disgusting streetshitter
>Blizzard steals Warcraft 3 from you>promises to Reforge™ it for you with new cutscenes and updated art>releases a new product that runs on Chromium and has like half the features of the original and nothing of what was promised>ransoms the shitty new art to you for $30This genuinely feels illegal.
>>719547889>Not falling for it.What is there to fall for? It's genuinely a great remake. It's from Vicarious Visions who also did the THPS1+2 remakes which were also great. They understand that a remake should be 95% of the original, but with updated graphics and a few QoL things.I'm not trying to sell you the game, just pirate it if you want to try it.
>>719547658Dont post this please. Reforged is still the biggest most retarded thing any gaming company has ever made
>>719548079>so much as>improperRetard alert. Maybe the issue isn't that you're ESL so much as you're just a nigger.
I'm currently nostalgic for Legion.
>>719548110It should be. How can one fucking company from the top of the world to the bottom of the underworld
>killed the main server and split the community in two>nordnar left with only chineseim not even making this up
>Blizzard shill can't into basic EnglishThey really are street shitters aren't they?
>>719548129Troontle should hire better shillsGuess thats why MoP is so much more popular than it LOL
>>719548182Blizzard is literally doing a "remix" for Legion next month, like they did with MoP. If there's enough interest then they will probably also do a "classic" version of it next.
>>719547658>outsource your remake to some SEA company with zero guidance or quality control>kill remakes. behead remakes. roundhouse kick remakes into the concrete...Classic blizzdrone behaviour.
>>719548267Microsoft should hire pajeets that at least understand common phrasings.
>>719547649MoP is only beating out SOD because its fucking dead, and hardcore because >hardcore wowMoP is doing terribly.
>>719548267Why do you care about popularity so much? You can agree that MOP and vanilla are very different games. I dont want to play mop i want to play vanilla. Popularity doesnt change the fact that you are a slave to 20year old mmo
>>719547818Diablo 2 remake has a tranny Amazon and the sorceres being an indian male now.
>>719544838>redditfrog
>>719548369goalpost moving at incredibly high speeds
>>719548308MoP is beating out SoD because nobody wants to play low skill vanilla slopEven at its peak SoD was only like 80k players with an army of altsSame reason its beating out troontle>>719548369We can talk about quality but MoP mogs vanilla slop there too
>tfw Daybreak is suing an Everquest private server tooThese executives believe that one player on a private server = one lost sale and that everybody who plays on a pserver would play retail if the pserver didn't exist (lol)>https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70555215/daybreak-game-company-llc-v-takahashi/
>>719548429Nigga you could have only chosen a more widely panned expansion if you made your gimmick about BFA
>>719547492Cuz they have no choice, they have to sue. American copyright laws.It has nothing to do do they 'win' or not.
>>719548392>Diablo 2 remake has a tranny Amazon and the sorceres being an indian male now.These are valid complaints, but at the end of the day you never even see their faces aside from when creating your character and when you log into the game(assuming you are using a helm that exposes their faces). It sucks, but it has no impact on gameplay in any way.
>>719548431And? Didn't I just say I dont want to play MOP, isnt this textbook shilling you are doing? MOP and vanilla are not the same game.
>>719548392>they made Cassia into a testosterone elementalFucking why
>>719548501You can't lose a copyright for failure to enforce, that's only trademarks. This is pure greed.
>>719542716I take that over GDKP, wintrade and Bot tranny enablers like (you) ruining endgame raiding and leveling toothats Why fucking FF14(with a garbage subscription fee) and ESO lasted this long.
>>719548247>and split the community in twoit was 10k, now it's 7k. And 11k on a new server.
>>719548580Please be honestYou *cant* play MoP because you're skill capped at 1 button vanillashit rotations and 0 mechanic bosses
>>719548450Its same argument as digital piracy is a lost sale but there is no proof that its true. Piracy, popularity and sales always correlate with each other. The more sales the more piracy and more popularity, its simple as that.
>>719545414>>Own name visibleI realize you're probably trying to own that anon, but that's just an inspect screen
>Vanilla WoW>playable without add-ons>playable without any DBM/Weakaura faggotry>chill game>used to have a decent community/last of the old-school MMOs>Literally anything put out by Blizzard in current era>Weakaura and DBM faggotry nearly mandatory>sweats pretending old solved formula content is hard as fuck and requires you stack consumables and worldbuffs as well as come in near BIS>that fucking cash shop>knowing you're giving Blizzard money to try and experience nostalgiaNo.
>one side either defend shitzard decision or joins shitzard side like a fucking blizzdrone in this case>other side is defending a literal shitty pserver run by a well known russian shitters and frauds pretending history past nost didn't happenI like this thread, both sides trying to prove they're not subhuman faggotniggers and that the other side is. Too bad, you're both literal retard drones and I'll enjoy mocking both of you
>>719548647You should play different games sometimes. If you think mop is hard or requires skill. I played retail for years and its way above your retarded mop, thats why I lost interest in the fucking game because its just same retarded mechanics and I dont care about that anymore.
>>719548598And they will lose the trademark if they dont enforce.
>>719543481Lol they wont, Blizzard is literally disobeying Microsoft.Microsoft is literally OK with Private servers or Mods for their games since it generates revenue and keeps the damn thing alive if it comes a time for them to ask help for future revival projects like Age of Empires and such.Blizzard were always jealous pricks who hated their playerbase, but newfags never saw the 2000's battlenet forums.Their retarded south californian "culture" speaks higher, they love sniffling their own farts.
>>719548756>run by a well known russian shittersReally?
>>719548774it's funny when people think WORLD OF WARCRAFT in any iteration is a difficult video game when the primary mechanics are and have always been moving out of bad shit and sometimes standing in good shit. Like any ps2 shovelware platformer blows WoW difficulty out of the water
>>719548861No billion dollar company is letting people to steal their trademark, are you fucking stupid? Why do you come up with this shit.
>>719548861They sure love destroying everything that made them great.
>>719548861shitzad had no problem with private shit, even private bnets like league and region specific bnets for SC and WC3 until dota happened
>>719548747>>Weakaura and DBM faggotry nearly mandatoryBlizzard is actually in the process of permanently disabling a bunch of addons, including those, in favor of WoW having its own systems like that built into the game.
>>719548861>2000's battlenet forums>tfw main account got forum-permabanned around 2006 because I pointed out a weekend-long porn thread being left up on the off-topic forum while a thread about the weather was nuked instantly on a Mondayjust like 4chan mods nowadays lol
>>719548873Vast majority of fights through Wrath where I unsubbed and never went back/Guild went inactive in MoP were all tank and spanks with a gimmick or two. You were lucky to get a fight mechanically denser than "Okay guys same song and dance except for this one thing".Hard-core fags overcomplicate and play up the difficulty of everything because they're autistic fucking faggots and niggers that are the very definition of trying too hard to be good.
>>719548937Too little too late.
>>719548937>DBM incorporated into the game in some formIt's lost already from having been designing their encounters around add-ons, literally leaning into making them mandatory. I never use them. I don't want to use them. I played MMOs for over 10 years by the time I played WoW and I've kept playing them after WoW without add-ons. Get this fucking training wheels cancer out of my gameplay.
>>719543242did you forget about Nostalrius?
>>719548747>Vanilla WoW>playable without add-onsits literally unplayable without a threat meterwhy do shitnilla fags lie?
>>719547283>having intended to shut down Ascension how many times overSource?
>>719549093Nobody forgot about Nostalrius, the server VOLUNTARILY SHUT DOWN by the devs because they thought they might get jobs at Blizzard (they didn't) or that Blizz would consult them for a theoretical future vanilla+ release of WoW (they did not).
>>719549115>Unplayable without a threat meterGuess how I know you're the Huntard faggot that had one job and you couldn't control yourself and ripped aggro like a fucking mongoloid?
>>719549093Shut down willingly.Not Russian
>>719548747>sweats pretending old solved formula content is hard as fuck and requires you stack consumables and worldbuffs as well as come in near BISit's for parsing retardclassic molten core was cleared with most of the raid being sub-60, absolutely nobody thinks it's hard content
>>719549070>It's lost already from having been designing their encounters around add-ons, literally leaning into making them mandatoryThey specifically said that the reason why they are making this new move with addons is because they have realized that it's not feasible to continue to make encounters that are purely balanced about DBM/BW.Their new philosophy is that if a boss is about to do some big attack, it should be telegraphed clearly in the game itself, not through some kind of third party addon.
>>719549178Don't even get me going on parsefags and the entire AIDS culture they introduced that made so many raid guilds forget about consistency and fun. Actual fucking cancer.
>>719549152>the server VOLUNTARILY SHUT DOWN by the devshuh?>Yesterday, we received a letter of formal notice from US and french lawyers, acting on behalf of Blizzard Entertainment, preparing to stand trial against our hosting company OVH and ourselves in less than a week now. This means the de facto end of Nostalrius under its current form. https://en.nostalrius.org/
>>7195491622 crits from any non-memespec can rip aggro, fuck off retardIts completely unplayable without a threat meter and unacceptable that such information is hidden in the first place, but retard vanilla devs had the foresight of a brick wall
>>719549224...Yes anon, they shut it down. They did not attempt to fight it in any way shape or form. They immediately rolled over and showed their stomach.
>>719549209theres nothing to do but parse, vanilla isnt fun and theres no content so players have to make their own (parsing) or run out of shit to do
>>719548892Tell that to Microsoft then who never sued any company or modder who kept their games alive for years, mainly fucking flight simulator, And when Flight sim was back, they rushed to ask the FS community of pros and cons and how to improve, mainly the FSX guys.Even Bethesda is ok with people pirating their shit too.EA is even ok with people doing the same, and is fucking EA, same fucking EA who let Return of Reckoning happen as a huge fuck you towards GW.Blizzard ALWAYS hated their playerbase, they hate the mere idea of people even back at warcraft 3 and SC ladder days making better changes than them, and always taking them down and shitting on the next patch.They literally went after a starcraft mod who made better balance changes than them in the 2000's, and went after people trying to save SC2.>>719548931Lol stop lying dude, they were literally fuming over eurobattle and ggnet/garena since their BNET service was garbage and even went after them but couldn't close their service.>>719548965there were worse things there, and the same mentality as the faggot who posted this and got called out by a fucking dwarf.
>>719549224>>719549152they thought they gonna get a IT job without lying on their resume
>>719549229We played EQ1 without a threat meter and with more intensive threat management than WoW had the balls to introduce in its first two expansions. We played EQ2 without it. WoW was the EQkiller back in the day like we now wait for a WoWkiller today.Guess what? We managed not to rip threat just fine because we weren't taught to lean on the crutch of putting your DPS meter right by your threat meter and watching DBM to be sure you know where to stand and when.
>>719548873sure bro best players in the world spend days and wipe 300 times on a boss but its just like any ps2 game, I remember fighting bosses 300 times as a kid!
>>719549315What a fucking joke cherrypicking blizzdrone cope.
>is letting people toIs he doing it on purpose?
>>719549304Your mentality is the very reason private old-school servers can see retail players by the way they move and act then treat them like nigger poopsockers they are.
>turtrannies unironically believe they have a fighting chance>"uhm ackshully if I'm in russia nothing can't happen?? ;)"KEK
>>719549229It is absolutely playable, you just have to fucking pace yourself. Goddamn i hate nummo controlfreaks that can't just wing it and need to know perfect numbers to optimize everything. Fuck you with rusty pipe, you are the reason mmos are dead.
>>719546207You're on the list but I doubt they would go after donators because it would cost too much money and there is so many of them
>>719549398>bro just like, tab out for 5 minutes between spellstroonilla players will defend any slop so long as it doesnt require skill huh
>>719549459Anon, don't go talking about FF11 here.
>>719549393>we can't win a literal war against them, but they'll respect our copyri-ACK
>>719546207The list is on you.
>>719549423huh? going after anyone who spent money on it as part of their RICO lawsuit is the best idea, it has a chilling effectif you saw anyone in the US/EU who spent/donated to a pserver get raped in court you would think twice before ever supporting a pserver again
>>719549459>Can't manage threat without a meter>mocks others for lack of skill
>>719549364Anti PServerfags are always like that >pic because their "faction pride" is always grifting people like #nochanges fags did to sell GDKP and other shit
>>719549392Its not a mentality its a factvanilla is a shallow lifeless game with nothing to do but raidlogcope, dilate, whatever. Its the truth
>>719549545>Blizz suit wet dream
>>719549315>Blizzard ALWAYS hated their playerbase, they hate the mere idea of people even back at warcraft 3 and SC ladder days making better changes than them, and always taking them down and shitting on the next patch.>They literally went after a starcraft mod who made better balance changes than them in the 2000's, and went after people trying to save SC2.don't forget they still haven't lived down how they let DOTA and basically the entire ASSFAGGOTS genre, originally a WC3 map, slip through their fingers.
>>719549459>skill is when you have all the mechanics laid bare and press buttons when program tells you toPlease fuck off back to retail and stay there forever.
>>719549587Spoken like a retail nigger buck broken by the skinnerbox routine. Your MMO experience is a soulless borderline singleplayer RPG experience with NPCs to fill parties.
>>719549269>They did not attempt to fight it in any way shape or form.lmao, do you really think some retards in their moms basement would win against the lawyers from a multi billion company? What would be your plan?
>>719549661dilate somewhere else tranny, you cant refute it
>>719549587>raidlogging is le bad>anyway if you'll excuse me i have to go run the same dungeon with increasingly inflated mob damage and attack numbers another 50 times
>>719549702There has to be something worthy of refuting. I'm sorry that the shit taste of a retail raid logger only earns dismissal.
>>719549654being able to actually dps properly and react to mechanics is skill, yeahalt tabbing because of threat is not
>>719549760>Can't react to threat>Can't react threat without a meter*>must have numerical values playing the game for them at all times mid screenStay in your faggot borderline bot parties.
>>719549587Opposed to retail that has...nothing to do but raidlog?
>>719547818Blizzard was probably still seething extremely hard that LoL and DoTa slipped through their fingers when people made the original mod on their game. So they decided to make the remake of one of their best games shittier to ensure that wouldn't happen again.
>>719549393im still playing the game though
>>719549552>standing still and doing nothing is a skill to cryboomers L M A O>>719549828You cant react to something you have no way of seeing or discerning at all. Without a threat meter you cant plan accordingly (a skill) you have to just assume high threat and sit on your hands constantly (not skill)Its not complicated
>>719549852But anon, they have a brand new expansion that'll fix everything by giving them new raids to log and a new gearing mechanic that'll be entirely irrelevant next-next expansion, where they'll fix everything by giving them new raids to log and a new gearing mechanic that'll be entirely irrelevant next-next expansion.
>>719549852M+ DelvesTons of world contentAnd of course raiding in retail requires actual prog so you dont clear in an hour>>719549710>playing the game is basically the same as not playing the game ok retard
>>719549115Because it's always late millenial/zoomer Classic larpers that never actually played WoW during vanilla.Addons have always been a thing in the game.Sure, not to the extend of playing the game for you like with WA, but DBM/BigWigs were always a thing.
>>719549545The US court will laugh at them and ask what the fuck they are thinking with that RICO, and second said courts which nowadays got more "orange man" supporters will ask about their own shit like the faggotry they are pushing hard and other stuff they did over the years.I literally had to ask this to a guy i know who is a judge who works with shit like this, he said that the entire case is null, because blizzard's case is the same as other companies at the verge of bankrupcy does against competition, a desperate attempt.Midnight will be a failure, they know, they were even booed at gamescom, and their classic+ plan is following their shitty retoilet and golden lore.Whatever it will be announced at blizzcon in november, not even their sheep will agree with it anymore.
>>719549954>Can't manage threat without a meter>Mocks othersJust say you like having add-ons flash what to do in front of your face at all times anon. I would if I couldn't handle threat without a list of numerical values available at all times.
>>719550030Funniest thing is that many vanilla addons looked more pleasing than modern wow.
>>719550032Go on tranny tell me how you manage an invisible number for multiple people you have no way of knowingHint: stopping attacks when you dont need to isnt managing anything, its playing suboptimally
>>719550029>yes i love to not consume anything but world of warcraft i live to play world of warcraft and nothing else i devote my life to daddy blizzardnot the own you think it is
>>719550030>Sure, not to the extend of playing the game for you like with WAWhat are you talking about retardhealbot and decursive LITERALLY played the game for you in vanilla
>>719550121>Play with same tank over and over>something thematic to MMO parties>feel threat out/what I can get away withDid you know Threatmeters are less than 20 years old as a concept, summer-kun?
>>719550031>they were even booed at gamescomany videos? want to see and laugh because everybody said Metzen will fix WoW
>>719550121Ur a huge faghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Dn0Nv_IfY
>>719550136>heh, well vanilla is so boring I dont actually want to play it that much! checkmate!uhhh, nillers arent sending their best
everyone who has played turtle knows its a fun time and that they have better servers than blizzard, you can shit on the game, but you can't run defense for blizzard's dogshit abandonned servers
>>719550202None, just people who were at the grounds asking what the fuck they have done with liadrin and WoW.Damage control til november will be huge, they know microsoft is ready to pull the trigger at them, Even bethesda and id has a seat at the table unlike them and obsidian.
>>719550191>bro I just like...feel that Im rightLMAOyour brain is actually fried holy fuck. And threat meters were around in 2004/2005 dumbfuck
>>719550179Have you played modern retail WoW with custom WeakAuras? It's nothing like boxes on the screen you click retard.
>>719550257what exactly is this fags video supposed to prove?Hoping your fav eceleb will bail you out lil zoom?
>>719550401I guess it's a mystery how people managed threat before threat meters were made past the year 2000.Fuckin' retard.
>>719550031>they were even booed at gamescom,this means nothing. gamescom is a full of normalfags who don't give a shit about this ancient boring ass tab target excuse of a boomer videogame (and probably cheered for the endless amount of rollslop)the exact same shit happened with legion's announcement, you couldn't go a day without seeing someone shitposting with shots of the audience's wierded out "people still play this shit?" expressions as if they're genuine expressions from wowfags
>>719550191>threatmeters were around a similar amount of time as the concept of MMO raidsw0wzers
>>719550121>playing suboptimallyI am so glad blizzard keeps reservations for retards such as you, it is a shame how much damage you did to mmos already but at least you are contained now.
>>719550487>The concept of MMO raids began in 2004>threat in MMOs didn't exist earlierAnother fuckin' retard.
>>719550537>similar amount of time>pretends i stated a hard datesaw that one comin'
>>719550584>10 years earlier>MMO raids already well underway before (You) were born>the concept of a Threat Meter didn't exist in Everquest
>>719542892they've been accepting money for a long time and nothing happenedit's simple: if you become too popular, blizzard will go after you, same thing that happened to nostalrius
>>719550584>Did you know Threatmeters are less than 20 years old as a concept, summer-kun?Basic arithmetic is beyond this retard.
>>719550401Not only meters, but also the first "idea" of transmog back in 2004/2005 was a RP Addon that changed your armor from the set you wanted it outside raiding.I forgot the name, but had good shit in it they took from NWN1 and Morrowind.>>719550453>>719550486you fags are literally >pic incarnate
>>719550624>now making up random shit I never saidThat other guy got to you too much. It's time to put 4chan down for the day.
>>719550642This is a brutal reminder many posters here were likely born after 2000.
>>719550674>roughly the same time>20 years>30 years ago we were raiding without threat metersBasic math and three step logic not your strong suit?
>>719550673lmao you misunderstand, MIDnight looks terrible and announcing those OC donut steel trollnightelves as an allied race directly after showcasing zul aman was a spit in the face of old fans, i'm just saying blizzard has plenty of excuses to dismiss the booing
>>719550794When microsoft is breathing at their necks with a gun pointed to their heads, and telling them that they found better owners for their ip's, you know that they are going to pull the trigger after Q4 2026 or earliest.Plus people forgets that Holly Longdale ruined EQ with seasonal shit
>>719550409no WA can cast spells for you, decursive and healbot did that WAs assign markers, show timers and at best suggest spells, everything else is on you to execute.
>>719545130>this retard still trying to argue bags and vendor summons aren't P2Wyou're a fucking shill. I remember arguing with you in another thread and you said the same thing. fucking faggot
Come home western man.> 100% full game > free> No gacha> no botters> better netcode than desktop. no skating rink releasing in the west soon
>>719550946The poopsockers fucked EQ anon, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The lead poopsocker from EQ would go on to be the lead raid designer for WoW on launch. I do not know how long he kept that job title but upon having learned he was the lead my reaction was more or less "Oh, of course, that's why it's all poopsocker endgame content and never horizontal additions."That guy is the reason you don't get new leveling content instead of endgame all the time and an optimized funnel to said endgame. No more exploration, no more reasons to re-level, just all shitsocker endgame.
>>719542345The only thing this tells me is that official Classic+ is coming so Blizz are shooting down competitors.
>>719550946EQ was ruined with Luclin, lil' tyke.
>>719551084Retail wow is full of horizontal contentnobody fucked does it because nobody actually wants horizontal content, they want to progress
>>719549315>Lol stop lying dude, they were literally fuming over eurobattle and ggnet/garena since their BNET service was garbage and even went after them but couldn't close their service.yeach they were fuming so much that ESL had his own server with complete rank system respected and straight up required to attend if you wanted to compete in major tournaments since A+ rank was required(or it wasnt ESL but ICCUP bnet server)shitzard hated modders so much that one of their SC patches fixed problem with generating some dodads and structures made in SCMDraft or xtra editor so your terrain could be designed from grid and multiple buildings stacked at single pixelso, at least you tried to be beleivable
>>719551071>Simplification hammer hurts all eventually>Can make a free bot within 20 minutes with Punish repo, vnavmesh and combatbuddyreborn/gatherbuddyreborn>less of an MMO, more of a JRPG>9 year long story to experience/trudge through if it's shit (it's a lot of pacing issues)>on the rails, handheld experience>toxic positivity community/you'll get stuck in the same shit party that can't clear braindead level 40 content because nobody will harass the anchor into leaving>all gameplay diversity for leveling and gearing boils down to roulettes That's right I actually played the game.
>>719551084You're talking specifically about Jeff Kaplan, or "Tigolebiddies" from the Legacy of Steel EQ guild. He would write weekly blogposts and he was the main person referenced in that comic that gets posted around every so often about bitching to EQ devs for more/harder raid content like a baby bitch. He and Alex Afrasiabi, or "Furor" were both in Legacy of Steel and went on to become big devs at Blizzard. There's another name I'm forgetting.
>>719551084>That guy is the reason you don't get new leveling content instead of endgame all the timeIs because that would be retarded? People who actually played the game hit max level and were looking for something to do, adding more content they have no reason to touch is a waste of time
>>719551062These aren't p2w.>I remember arguing with you in another thread and you said the same thing.That's the first time I argued about this at all. Guess there are more sane people, not just me, you tremendous double nigger.
>>719551219Holy fuck hearing the usernames again takes me back. None of us knew how high that faggot's shit taste would reach.
>>719551174>i suck blizzard cocksConcessions status = accepted
>>719551273Any advantage over another player that you pay money for is P2W. If you don't think having a repair/vendor/talent reset summon isn't P2W because you aren't "winning", you're a fucking retard.
>>719551264You know no other way anon, that's why you believe this. And to be fair, maybe you are a poopsocker at heart which isn't something to be proud of as it's a nice way of saying "If it isn't endgame I don't give a shit" which wasn't normal once upon a time. In my time, we had multiple groups of middle aged to older friends that weren't fucking speeds and we had actual reasons to play new characters and go through entirely new leveling routes pending on how much expansion content backed up and because your racial starting location mattered so much more.
>palworld does itheh... take this tendies LMAO>turtle WoWNOOOOOOOOO @fbi @blizzard @potus
>>719551338sure nigger I'll lie like you about something that happened because that would upset you mr zoomer who wasn't even alive back thenholy fuck you gonna yell that sky is red if someone who you dislike say that sky is blueand like I said, both shitzard drones and pserver monekys are the same type of 3rd world shitters
>>719551487Nigga u suck blizzard cocks 24/7, you aint fooling nobody.
>>719542716not to mention the fucking tents that have 100s of players standing around them at all times, with people crying when one isn't up
>>719550946delusional every studio microsoft bought either released a turd or got axedmicrosoft is even worse than blizzard, they are just incapable of failing because of windows
>>719551565He ain't wrong about them fucking doodads.
>>719551604>Incapable of failing because of WindowsWhat sucks shit the most is they can fuck up consumer Windows all they like and purely from the enterprise sector they're too big to fail to such an extent an error in their systems can ground all flights in America for 24 fucking hours.
>>719551602You mean the tents that charge up your rested interval in visible ticks and that are a free profession to create?
>>719551565zoomer, you werent there, stfualso some of shitzard employes are breathing. Enjoy suffocating unlesss you're a shitzard drone who also need to breath like them!
>>719551413The other way is GW2, which fucking sucks and is dead
>>719551372>Any advantage over another player that you pay money for is P2WNo. P2W is about advantage like power or leveling speed.
>>719550946delusionalmicrosoft keeps an entire studio of minecraft devs on the payroll to release a mob and maybe a handful of new blocks every two years
>>719551910>GW2didn't they release something new not that long ago? I might be wrong but I think I have heard something
>>719551828its soulless and just promotes people to go afk
>>719545102>layering>no faction balance>retarded minmaxing plague of a communityi thought i wanted it, but i didn't
>>719551991>promotes people to go afkWhy can't you speak English?
>>719551828He is indian and was hired by blizzard to shit on twow, of course he knows nothing.
>>719551952>having vendors, extra bag space, and a fucking mail box doesn't affect leveling speedHow fucking dumb are you?
>>719551991just don't use it? not my fault you're a child with no responsibilities faggot. i will keep stockpiling rested xp while i fix dinner and you can seethe about it
>>719551991>Never at city gates>only reason to go to city gates is for experience mult>"Exp mult is soulless"Work harder not smarter I guess
man those fuckin spineless faggots and their shilling, shut them down you jews
>>719552075Unless they add getting quests remotely it doesn't. Being a shaman affect leveling speed more than entire cash shop.
>>719551991>soulless>horde PVP AoE'ing all those AFK people>the sea of bodies>the rage>the salt>continuing the rape of the alliance in Goldshire>continuing the rape at DeadminesYou're soulless.
Can someone who played Turtle write a negative review about it compared to Anniversary servers
>>719552141>turn on the radio for the first time>hear some faggot doing a shitty impression of a goblin>turn off the radio for the last time >open up youtube on my second monitor
>>7195521980/10 didn't ask me to pay them money and has no formulaic wipe cycle
>>719552149You can free up a shit ton of bag space and keep collecting whatever shit you need for your next quest without wasting time walking back. Could be ten to twenty minutes sometimes. It still affects leveling speed and is, by your definition, P2W
Just got 25 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf paladin
>>719552275you won the internet debate bro, it is pay2win
>>719552275I just did 5 quests and came back to quest hub. How having a bigger bag or a vendor on demand would've speed it up?>>719552339>slow and steady>exhaustion You love pain, huh?
>>719552339holy elfletwhy are high elves midges
>>719552398Not him but if I have 32 slot bags and a vendor or mailbox I can pop down in the wild by the time you've done four or five trips out to grind I'm still on my first one and filling up with exclusively actionable since I can vendor in the wild
>>719552470What trips to grind? I'm going back to town to finish quests more often than I'm getting my bags full.
>>719552398Auctionables*. Consider all the travel time and downtime you put up with whereas I'm sitting in my grinding spot with a means to mail my whole inventory to an alt. I do not need to leave a spot while you need to. My logistics are that much more efficient than yours in this example and as a former megakike on Ascension if my toon never has to leave their farm spot and yours does you are at a growing time disparity.
>>719552339>elvuisoulless
>>719552398Yes I do.>>719552443High elves are human size because they fuck humansNight elves are big because they fuck Tauren
>>719552540Nightfins are up at a good time if you're not on Euro time, pending on where you are. From 6pm to 11pm here they're up.
>>719551991miss normal people with your fuckin autism, go level with 0,1x exp and fuck off i need max and i need epics
>>719552398By staying out in the field and doing as quest many as possible. If you have grays then you can sell them and keep going. If you didn't need the vendors at that time it doesn't mean you won't or can't use them later when your bags are filled and you're in the middle of a cave.
>>7195526353 more quests. I came to town second time without selling a single time, my bags are still not full.
>>719552650god i wish i had a graphics card
>>719552635>I'm sitting in my grinding spot with a means to mail my whole inventory to an altare you even having fun? it's not a competitive game you know, it is pay2win if you have this "by any means necessary" grinding mindset, but any wow classic server is like that, be it an in game shop or an online gold shop
>>719552750>By staying out in the field and doing as quest many as possible.I did all I could and came back to Goldshire. it's not like I finished only half quests and went back. You are delusional.
>>719552398>>719552750>>719552816just fuckin multibox retard and help yourself with your level 60
>>719552816>starting zone is equivalent to the entire game
>>719552751Anon, you have 36 slots total and aren't farming on a level 60 yet.Compare those 36 to 112 and factor in the time you need to travel to and from wherever you're grinding for gold.For instance, I fish Azshara. When Winter Squid comes, I have 112 slots to fill up.Let's take it a step further- I have a portable mailbox.While you have to go to Stormwind/Org and post your shit on the auction house to clear inventory, I pop my mailbox on the coast without moving and mail my whole inventory to my alt Fishermann.I log over to them while you travel or hearth, they're standing by an auctioneer. I pop my portable mailbox on them. I don't even move them. I retrieve and post all my items.Back to my main, fishing resumes.
>>719552918Multibox is a bannable offense on a hc.>>719552925It's the same across all levels. If anything, early levels are harder in this sense, because you've got no bags. Later I can just buy them from people. You are making it sound like they sell the only bag in the game.
>>719552778I'm a massive fucking kike in any MMO I play. Nightfins are the easiest route to getting enough funds to sit on my ass and multiply my gold with professions and shout jewing. Gold going up matters more to me than stats.
>>719553021>Multibox is a bannable offense on a hc.if some schizo gets triggered and starts writing tickets
bros... if free to play azshara fishermans have to walk to orgrimmar every 2 hours... its over
>>719552998>and aren't farming on a level 60 yet.We were talking about leveling.>>719552275>It still affects leveling speed>>719552075>affect leveling speed
>>719553080Oh my bad. Yeah carry on then it ain't that big of a difference. Ascension had a pet class trainer that I'd consider cheaty from how many trips it cuts out of the leveling experience but that ain't on Turtle.
Metzen will save WoW, just trust
>>719553021Having a fuckhueg bag at the start would make the game a lot easier, yes
>>719553271It will save you about tree fiddy silvers across first ten levels. Definitely p2w.
>>719553347By definition it is
>>719553415No, by definition it is not.
>>719553415ok now you've won the debate, it is P2W, what server do i play wow on now?
>>719553347retard you farm stratholme with those 4x36 bags on a prot paladin with skullflame shield and then vendor all the trash items and mail over valuables to your bank toon
>>719551952>>719553542>>719553559I dunno. Probably Wallcraft
>>719542345And nothing of value was lost
>>719553631>>719553080>Can't read>Call someone else a retard
