As a member of an indingeous tribe that I will not disclose how come I or others never see equality and representation for ourselves in games?
because there's barely anyone to pander to. every other demographic /v/ seethes about (which let's face it is every demographic that isn't themselves) has a much bigger population of potential customers.
>>719545589Americans (native and otherwise) attack people over it so games who want to sell in the US (most of them) avoid or remove all references to natives in their games.>https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/poundmaker-cree-nation-chief-civilization-video-game-1.4473089
I know OP is baiting but fuck it, I'll chomp, and I don't wanna hear no whining or entire paragraphs explaining to me who's fault it is, I know, I don't care, this is an earnest question- does anyone here from a small culture or one that's not usually shown in media actually feel offended over sterotypical or silly depictions? Does anyone actually get upset, or is it more fun just to see [country mentioned]?I'm not gonna mention where I'm from, but despite being a big country it's actually represented very little in media, and I still get a hoot out of the stereotypical versions of our locals just because it's fun to see
>>719546074it depends, doubt gypsies enjoy being depicted as pickpockets all the time or niggers enjoy watching a depiction of them yucking it up with their slave owners back in the day.it's not a matter of "is it stereotypical" it's a matter of "is it insulting?"
>>719546618then they're thinskinned, i'm russian and i grew up with literally all depictions of ruskis i saw in cartoons being big dumb drunks and i found it funnyyou're only insecure about media if you don't see reality, if you can't look around and see that what you see on television isn't actually the case, you'll be upsetif you see a little pickanniny dancing around a campfire with a bone in his nose, and then turn around and observe your local black community having a nice barbecue as everyone is polite and wearing real pants, you'd go "heh, silly cartoon", but if you're so unsure of your community that you have no good frame of reference, you'd be upset
>>719546618Someone will always be insulted or offended by literally anything.
>>719545589I know they released a sort of puzzle game for MCOG sometime ago, but it was forgettable. They could make something work I think for a fun platformer. I'd settle for a scrolling beat em up, because cartoon I.P.'s having these isn't uncommon (see He-Man).
>>719546618>it's a matter of "is it insulting?"I think you don't understand the idea behind stereotypes, anon.The majority are insulting.That's kind of the whole point. Normal people get over it and shoot some back.>Oh you're French hon hon omelete du fromage, always stinky, hairy, bad womanizer.Sure, anon. And you're a rolling ball of lard who can't count past 50 and uses a mobility scooter to get to the toilet.
>>719546762>>719546735insulting might not have been the best term for it but shit's complicated and i'm here to have some fun, not write a full essay about how cultures struggle with their image and how their media depictions play into that
>>719545589Gun had natives in it.
>>719545589"Look, we're so diverse!!!">Movie/series cast is mostly white and black people>Sometimes they throw in a token Latino>Maybe SEA if they feel like it>Rarely if ever you get indigenous american (Any from North or South), middle eastern that isn't playing some sort of "terrorist", pacific islander or native Australian.
>>719545589>Prey>Turok>This Land Is My Land>Custer's RevengeYou have plenty of accurate representation already.
>>719547286nobody cares faggot
>>719546074>I'm not gonna mention where I'm from
>>719547286Youre not native anything, amerimutt.
>>719545589>indingeous tribeOnly good to represent low lvl trash mobs
>>719545589Off the dome I can list the likes ofCharles (RDR2)Red XIII (Final Fantasy 7)Nightwolf (Mortal Kombat)T.Hawk/ Lily (Street Fighter)Thunder (Killer Instinct)Conner Kenway (AssCreed III)TurokThat chick from Custer's RevengeMost people would consider the lions share of the characters I mentioned to be stereotypical. Is it possible to portray an admittedly niche culture as an outsider without it upsetting the easily offended?
>>719545589Because killing jews is Haram, goy.
>>719547695kek
>>719547428These e-kiddies absolutely had their brain melted by modern memes to the point where they think everyone shares what obsession is in their head and that their presumptions are obviousIt's fucking sad
Theres Turok but the IP is mismanaged to hell and pulp isn’t popular anymore.
>>719545589Not as profitable, plus due to Natives being descendants of Asians and Whites from Eurasia they don't hold the type of minority status that gets taken advantage of by big business.
>>719548969More like the Dinka.
>>719547584>That chick from Custer's Revengeprobably the first game with
Shadow Hearts 3 had some native american playable characters
>>719546043Thankfully the new MH:Wilds has no one playing it. So "they" won't get mad.
Not my problem you're unaware of good games. Not spoonfeeding a parasite
>>719547428>Least dirty indian food
>>719545589because liberals see any sign of native culture as a parady of itself and think it's 'racist' I remember there being an overwatch skin that was designed lovingly after the patterns of a small tribe in the pacific northwest, and they got shit on by liberals for 'cultural appropriation' because the character for the skin wasnt native
>>719546074Grandfather emigrated from Hugnary during the uprising in the 50s to get away from the killings and now he and my grandmother has passed, the fact that my dad speaks Hungarian (Sometimes, mostly just when another hungarian speaks to him it all comes back to him outta nowhere) is the last link my family has to its roots in that respect.I never see Magyar culture represented in any vidya outside of historical grand strategy/civ games. I dont think most people in the world know much about Hungary to begin with. Only thing I can remember off the top of my head is I think the NPC colonists in Halo Reach spoke Hungarian, and thats about it.
>>719547428Why can't Indians do even basic hygiene standards? Is it against their religion?
>>719549642Average Indian IQ is 76, only 8 points above of what is considered clinically retarded.Go figure.
>>719547428>here's your replacement white man
>>719545589First, not big enough of the consumer market share to matter. Second, everyone loved making shit with native indian tribal shit until sjw types back then systematically and institutionally did their best to cleanse that tribal shit from the western mind. So now the only ones you get are the more sterile corporate representation in games, because culturally making parodies of native americans has been looked down on for over a decade to the point it's been effectively culturally erased and cleansed. So now, while you don't get the offensive representation, you now get no representation. The only Indian thing I get now in my games is from Rimworld.
>>719549613>I never see Magyar culture represented in any vidya outside of historical grand strategy/civ games.Be fucking glad you at least get that.>civ VI>Mathias Corvinus is added>his civlopedia entry LITERALLY mentions Vlad the Impaler>Vlad is never mentioned again and adding him to Civ VII would be a travesty because that game sucks dick>meanwhile add Amanitore, Harriet Tubman, three different Teddy Roosevelts>Age of Empires would add Indian and African Kingdoms DLC, then DLC milk the remake (still no Balkan expansion)Only times we got the rep in these kinds of games (that I can think of) was Bucharest as a city state in Civ V and a small scenario with no voice acting in Age of Empires II. Also Hearts of Iron, but the entire continent is in there.
>>719550525>>719545589To add to what OP said, Civ series has:>Iroquois>Shoshone>Cree>Shawnee>Sioux (Sitting Bull in Civ IV)>Aztec>Incan>Mayan>MapucheI've never heard of half of these before, so I'd say it's pretty good representation.
>>719546074The last attempt I saw at it was Far Cry 3 with the native tribe that Vaas and Citra hailed from. Shit took me out of the game because the idle dialogue that you will occasionally hear is exactly what my uncles sounded like. Right down to the laughs and anecdotes. It's weird hearing their accents when you're so used to the diamond dozen burger, bong and euro chatter that you come to expect when playing vidya.
>>719545589because its illegal, there were multiply twittermobs trying cancel games over using indigenous characters or just symbolism. Some tried to even cancel Genshin over this, but this was obviously a futile attempt.You have yourself to blame
>>719545589Depicting native americans as they are is hecking racist chud
Might be because latinos still have an identity crisis and don't want to define themselves as natives.
>>719546074despite its a huge countryKazakhstan? (don't even know how to type that country)
>>719551434>latinos still have an identity crisisWhat about all of the other native tribes that aren't latinos?
>>719549613I liked the way the Hungarians sounded in Tannenburg. Just a shame they had to get the chop when Isonzo finally rolled around. If you can have gypsies, magyars, ruski, latvians, bulgarians and germs all in the same game then the one after that shouldn't be a roadblock. That's what you call true diversity right there when everyone is fucking screaming at each other in a hail of gunfire.
>>719546868>MCOG beatemuphow would that work? They spend most of each season running away from their enemies (although I haven't seen season 4 yet)I guess Mendoza, Sancho and Pedro could fight. Gaspard too if he decides to stop being a shitter following his duel with Mendoza
>>719550835>Aztec>Incan>Mayan>MapucheThese aren't Indigenous Americans (Canada/US), they are just Native Americans. That degrades them from SJW talking points to brown subhumans no one in California gives a single fuck about.But on the flipside, it also means that they dodge the absolute insanity of American identity politics so they get to be in games.That's why there's an entire hidden Maya village you can visit in nuLara Croft, with Mayan characters serving as both the allies in your quest as well as the villains and shit. Absolutely unthinkable in the US, "Might as well make a Nigga Whipping Simulator or assassinate Trump in Hitman while you're at it" tier of unacceptable portrayal if these were treated and seen the same as those from the US and Canada.
>>719550835I'm not American but I have heard about most of these.Aztecs, Mayans, Incans ans Mapuche are pretty well known.And some tribes like the Cree, the Iroquois, the Sioux and the Apache are also pretty popular.
>>719549613>>719550525There's a Dracula adventure game that takes place in Transilvania around WW1. You get some info about both cultures.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwv0_6XViq0
Yeah, that's a Nez Perce guy
>>719547584>Nasta from Red Dead Redemption>Red Harlow's mom before she becomes charcoal chicken in Red Dead Revolver>the injun from Prey who gets spiritual backup from his grandfather onboard that extermination barge>Tala from Darkwatch is technically half native half ho
>>719551843Prey (2006) is such a good game.The mix between ayy lmao stuff and native American spiritualism is so rare.
>>719550835Rise of Nations let you run as the Lakota and Iroquois as standalone nations. One of them had a special snowflake unit with a portable minigun in the modern era. A lot of the factions had special one off units like that which you will never see again since there is no point taking a Greek hopilte into the space age against rampant atomic warfare.
>>719545589why, would that be doxing because there's like four of you
>>719551843>Desperados 2 - Hawkeye>AoE3 Warchiefs - the family you're playing as continues through natives, full campaign as them>No Man's Land - Forest and Praire Indian factions>American Conqust - Cossacks successor with Aztecs, Incas, Mayas, Sioux, Delaware, Huron, Iroquois League, Pueblos as distinct factions>Warcraft - Tauren are fantasy natives>Wild Arms - also has a fantasy world version of Wild West with native expiesI know there was an old JRPG which took place in Alaska and had you play as Inuit characters, though I don't remember the name.
>>719549561>I remember there being an overwatch skin that was designed lovingly after the patterns of a small tribe in the pacific northwest, and they got shit on by liberals for 'cultural appropriation' because the character for the skin wasnt nativeWhat did the tribe think about that skin?
>>719545719This. I've never seen an abo in a video game either.
>>719547584>Nightwolf (Mortal Kombat)An underrated character imo.
>>719552628>I've never seen an abo in a video game either.Don't play Shartfield then if you want to keep your eyes abo free kek. That game is practically crawling with them.
>>719545589>because theres 10 of you, you dont work in games, and the only way youd be marketable would be assuaging white people's ego (either being a savage warrior for white men to larp as or a poor victim of colonialism for "the modern audience") and when Indians actually write their own stories about themselves its the furthest thing from either of those things (dance me outside, rhymes for young ghouls, naturally native, empire of dirt, smoke signals, reservation dogs)does that answer it for you?
>>719547428How did a culture that eats with its hands develop a culinary tradition consistent almost entirely of goop?
>>719551606for these games the story doesn't have to be extensive and deep, just a "celebration" dumb fun with familiar backdrops. Think of Captain Commando and those era of games, no real story, just stages bosses and final boss with a short ending.As for playable characters, Lisa was playable in the Simpsons game, so the 3 kids could still fight.
>>719552534it was a tribe of only about 2000 people left. someone from the tribe made a reddit post about how it drove them tears, because for their whole life they saw their culture dying and fading away, and then to see something specifically from their culture put into overwatch, the biggest game of the year, was amazing to them. they showed their whole family, they were so happy about it.
>>719546074I think it helps to handle some things with the respect they deserve when things are visible on a global scale. Positive exposure invites interest. Why else do weebs exist? Sure, Germans and twice removed Dutch may have done horrible shit to my countrymen but I don't despise their existing. Stereotypes aren't bad but they're poor taste and boring at this point. One thing that surprised me was the inclusion and depiction of three non-Egyptian, African deities and spirits in SMTVV. And then Miary Zo's design is kinda disappointing even if there isn't anything wrong with being Polynesian.
>>719545589Sometimes no representation can be better than insulting representation. I would be seething about the depiction of Chel if I was an indigenous central american for example.She literally exists as a piece of brown meat to be colonized by two white men on screen and as an exotic early fap icon for young non-indigenous boys who saw the film.
>>719545589Don't some tribes see there language as sacred so you literally can't get representation in media?
I'm so tired of race mixing propaganda bros
>>719552913They're stuck on "It's finger-licking good!" mode.
>>719545589sex but not for the fun of it, for making babies
>>719553429This but unironically
>>719549642the place looks messy and the guy might have wiped his ass before making whatever slop this is, but the video doesn't really show a hygiene issue
>>719553429No races want you though
>>719553429>not emulating genghis khanngmi
>>719553619Race mixing admittedly makes some sense for non-whites
>>719545589Gun's protag is like half native-american. You can even scalp people in this game
>>719553667the goal is to make as many people more like you as possible
>>719553124With numbers that low no wonder they moved by the gesture. That's near Dodo levels of extinction.
>>719553590The propaganda would be unnecessary then.
>>719553720Man, Gun was such a cool little game
>>719553619Where would I find that many horse archers?
>>719548646>b-basterd bich benchod!lolol
>>719553306Depends on how seriously they take championing their identity. Some languages are all but extinct at this point that you couldn't even pay someone to insult you in it.
>>719553771and this was the skin, I believe.
>>719551538They don't buy enough games.
>>719553747Properly bleaching a member of a distinctly foreign race takes generations of selective breeding and assumes you have a political-cultural climate suited for that task in the first place. Its far more safe and cost effective to use those resources to multiply more within your own tribe.
>>719545589equality = more blacksrepresentation = more blacks
>>719553619>on /v/ no one knows that you're a mongol
>>719553720Was there any point to it? You could only do it on downed people who weren't getting up anyway.
>>719553935I didn't know that Pharah was half injun. Makes for one hell of a combo between Horus and the Great Spirit if she's dressing up like a Thunderbird.
>>719554027Just to enjoy being a sadist
>>719545589Chel caused so many deaths not luring those white men to getting poisoned
>>719554027$5 a scalp if you manage to skin it right.
>>719549642They get pleasure from being filthy non dead serious as indians in Canada still shit on the street even though there are easy access toilets everywhere
>>719546868Even if they were to make a game today, it'd be poisoned by the garbage CG sequel.
>>719553879>>719547428absolutely mindbroken
>>719545589
>>719545589Because you don't make any games. Be the change you want to see in the world.
>>719554142she's not native america at all, that was why people were mad about cultural appropriation
>>719554634>POV : you're about to waste all of the soap and water from fucking around in the bathroom
>>719551606I mean, Shredder's Revenge added April and Mona Lisa. Granted Mona has her blowfish mace she had in her action figure. Similarly, that Toxix Avengers beat em up has Toxie's Mom of all characters as a playable character. I'm sure you could think up a moveset for the MCOG cast somehow.
>>719545589As a fellow indigenous tribe member, I can tell you that it's because we Europeans fucked your shit
>>719545589Here you go.>>719553750
>>719554810>indigenous tribe member>Europeanpick one
>>719545589Tiger Lily was so cute.
>>719554863The fuck's your problem, now? Do you think we just manifested from literally nowhere and displaced some actual real population that you have no evidence of having ever existed? Just for your information, my nation is literally older than the land that we were the first settlers of, that carries our name, where I am right now.
>>719546074Jeet
>>719554863Do you people think Yakub deposited white people from his UFO in the 1600s?
>>719546074I'm from a country that doesn't really get mentioned that often so I'm not exactly sure what the stereotype might be (except for the one we made ourselves, but that's not really the same thing). I would probably get a good laugh if I saw one.One thing I can say for certain is that most of the time the people who get "offended" by a stereotype are the typical rainbow-haired teenagers who think they fight racism by screeching on twitter. The people who are actually being depicted mostly find it funny.
>>719547428Looked alright until he put in whatever that last brown slurry
>>719555308>>719553879>>719547428>>719548646someone needs to study how and why what begins as a meme ends up turning into actual incontestable worldview for these peoplei can't say for sure but i suspect it might have to do with being given ipads from the age of 2
>>719555583We don't talk about the aftermath of the Finno-Korean Hyperwar around these parts.
>>719556152>i can't say for sure but i suspect it might have to do with being given ipads from the age of 2AbsolutelyAlso drugs, remember every kid born after 2010 is on drugs before he's even born because his mother is hopped up on SSRI's and xanax, then he goes to school and says he would rather play outside or draw or something instead of doing math so he gets given meth, and by the time he's old enough to say no to it he's already addicted and his brain is fried and nothing but his drugs and social media addiction will soothe himIt's terrible
>>719545589I just learned I have Ojibway ancestry last week when a relative admitted that great grandma was half native. Feels weird.
>>719558121Lucky, now you can get a status card
>>719558121when you comin to the powow?
>>719545589>how come I or others never see equality and representation for ourselves in games?Most vidya is made by nips and they have their own brown indigenous tribe (Ainu, Okinawan) they can appropriate when they want to show primitivesFor american tribes most find cigar store indian tropes cringe and after that there aren't a lot of unique visuals or ideas you can turn into film. even someone like turok leans into mysticism stereotypes and tiger lilly in OP is typical sexulization of the browntl;dr indians are boring or not unique enough
>>719550835Incas are pretty good to study. They were really organized as an empire in a way that could be compared to the roman one. The Mapuches are also really interesting, they were far more advanced that people thought and were the only ones to resist the Spanish and make a treaty with them
Native Americans are very sensitive to sperging out about how they are represented in fiction and can be really nitpicky about it even when the representation is positive, so usually the safest bet is to not represent them at all.
>>719558121Fuck off to reservation, this is white man's country.
>>719558121Which has exactly 0 relation to who you are or what you do.Just like the fact that everyone in Europe is at the same time related to Charlemagne, the viking rapists, the folks who got raped by vikings, the Huns, the Alans, every kind of farmer everywhere, etc.>>719558896Okinawans were the same kind of Sinitic kingdom as the Japanese. The trope is more about "Japanese, but living on a heavenly tropical island".Hence why they're always brown, outdoors-y, good at swimming or surfing, etc.They're not really used as indigenous tribal people.
there is literally nothing wrong with being indian
>>719546043>they replace the Indian with a cowboyThat's like replacing an Aztec with a Conquistador or a Brit with a Muslim
>>719554665Who's to say her canadian father wasn't a native?
>>719555207>>719555583The word "indigenous" is usually only used about people who do not have their own recognized state or other wide venue of self-determination. The Sami are currently the only indigenous group in Europe because they do not have independence, and have no strong political body that could represent their interests in mainstream politics of Nordics or Russia where they live.
>>719545589Well, we're getting a new Turok game I guess.
>>719545589I'm a member of an indigenous white society and I'm severely disappointed in the appropriation of our culture and representation of our nation in any kind of media.
>>719545589>how come I or others never see equality and representation for ourselves in games?IDK, how many games have you people made?
>>719554665>>719559624Blizzard, in typical Blizzard fashion, made her father an indigenous Canadian after the cultural appropriation controversy.
>>719559551Japanese sense of humor, anon.Look up the first Arabic Street Fighter character, who got revealed in the US on 9/11, his stage involves a large plane dodging around skyscrapers.
>>719559419>Native Americans are very sensitive to sperging out about how they are represented in fiction and can be really nitpicky about it even when the representation is positive, so usually the safest bet is to not represent them at all.I live in Northern Ontario, and the only native dudes I know that are aware of or play videogames always play as the native dude in older games. I don't think a single native american person ever complained about characters like T.Hawk or Thunder
>>719559909Normal people don't matter in these conversations, since loud activists are the ones that corporations pay attention to.
>>719546074bolivian here, honestly i just like it when my country is there, me and my friends were really excited about Ghost reacon wildlands even though it wasn't exactly in our region. i think thats the only game i have ever seen where it gets more than a mention
>>719559419Which is funny because you can have indian coded races like WoW Orcs and Tauren and nobody cares because lolfantasy
>>719558896>sexulization of the brownWhy is this a bad thing?
>>719545589>pseudojeetDon't you have some reservation to get drunk on?
>>719560610You know you've made it as a country when . . . >Everybody wants to fuck your young women>People watch your movies>Your food can be purchased in a big box store.
>>719560029This.How many black nerds do you think imagined the dwarf queen as being black?How many female fans of Ghost Busters were like "Yeah, we need a movie exactly like that but with a female-only group of rabid feminists?"It's obviously not a topic that pops up with normal people. Those just go "Yeah, of course it's silly. Just like military isn't like Rambo." and if you're friends, they invite you over.Purplehaired nepo babies from a 6 figure doctor's family working cushy office jobs obvioulsy never got invited over. Nor would they go, for fear of catching the poor diseases of the blacks, natives and who knows what else they fight online article crusades "for".
>>719560610>Why is this a bad thing?Slippery slope iirc.You assume brown is down leads to harassment because autismos don't understand the social cues.I worked with a cute brown who spoke like valley girl and was flirty, but cried SA when men flirt back. no shit? the other women hated her because of this
>>719545589Tiger Lily and Shanti ruined my childhoodThose degenerates at Disney wanted to turn me into a furry but they gave me an absolutely insatiable hunger for little brown girls instead
>>719560758Marvel tested the waters in the years right before COVID. They were able to include a lot of progressive dog whistles and get away with it because the rest of the movie was good. But audiences weren't ready for progressive signaling in bad movies, but Marvel had no choice at that point. Game theory fail
>>719561160I hadn't watched Peter Pan in 30 years and the Tiger Lilly scene is jaw dropping. Shocked nobody's done a nude edit of that, but then again, that scene was hand-drawn by Disney 9 old men
>>719545589play red dead 2. you have a small arc in the story for representation. I wish some dev would create a cowboys vs natives type game but they seem hesitant to portray that era and those conflicts in video games for whatever reason.
>>719561634Why is Chel such a fucking insane 100/10 giga bombshell
>>719561160>>719561390This scene is a 100% accurate depiction of interactions between white men and brown women, right down to the seething white girl.
>>719559842Didn't realize he released on 9/11. Impressive job, Japs
>>719545589S E X O with native americans though...
>>719561390>>719561912Shanti's scene at the end of The Jungle Book was worse, the innuendo was impossible to ignore as a child and it's even worse now.
>>719561634>>719562437>all THEY need to do is keep pumping out shit like this to kill off yts but THEY wont do itwhat were they thinking
>>719562535What?
>>719562708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIaR2QBe08U
>>719562437Watch El Cid: The Legend.
>>719562796thats one sexy little girl ollie
>>719562896dammit, you beat me to the punch
>>719561634I saw some lineart of her in /co/ or something that was even more explicit
>>719562959sorry about that
>>719545589For me it’s Hawaiian girls.
>>719562796>wild man's comfy life with his animal buddies is ruined by a w*manMany such cases.
>>719559909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALzvFMgp-Yg&ab_channel=danyy6711
>>719546074>Text wallSorry.I understand why to some more oppressed countries and ethniticies it can be stressful and annoying if people who fucked them over in past makes stereotypical stuff of them. Especially if it's demeaning or degrading.Some are more tolerant of course than others.As a Finn it's fun to see anything Finland mentioned. But if a Finnish(or especially Swedish) game studio made a stereotypical Sami character in vidya, I wouldn't be surprised if they would call it out.Japanese seem to be happy and don't think too much about that kind of stuff as they seem to be just more interested in representing other cultures and countries, even if they accidentally make them bit controversially. Just that nippons don't really think about it too much it seems, but I doubt many there are ill-meaning. RE5 is best example, white guy going around shooting Africans while "saving" them. I have finished it so I know it's not about that but man playing it in "current year" made me laugh a bit.>"Who could do this to these innocent people!?">Shoots a black tribesman with a shotgun(don't worry it was a zombie)Fun co-op tho
I think its funny almost every other nationality embraces or even laughs at their own stereotypes but californian, white liberals would have you convinced they offend everyone and speak on their behalfs.
>>719562796I remember even as a kid this scene was extremely sensual. I couldn't put it into words back then but I just felt it.
>>719555859What country?
>>719546074most depictions of my culture are either negative or some bullshit from centuries ago.Then you gotta deal with white retards celebrating such portrayals, even though it would be similar to circle jerking over puritan pilgrims or some shit. Things that the modern people have no real connection to.I just ignore most attempts from either side of the political spectrum.
>>719563554i can’t wait for gta6 to release and have half of america have a meltdown
>>719547428This man works at Google now.
>>719563554>puritan pilgrimswhat the fuck are puritan pilgrims? puritans didn't tend to take pilgrimages
>>719562024in FFXIV there's a character called brute bomber who lives in the residential Block 9/11They can be pretty fucking funny sometimes
>>719545589Because we live in 2025
>>719561390I noticed outside of Maid Marian and Alice many of Disneys pre 90’s girls were all grossly overlooked and don’t have much in the way of art. Nobody really gives a fuck about Wendy Darling or the girl from Black Cauldron or Sword in the Stone. Tiger Lily and the singing girl from Jungle Book also aren’t that popular.
>>719563457>but californian, white liberals would have you convinced they offend everyone and speak on their behalfs.Thats emotional appropriation
>>719563915People nowadays don't know who the Puritans were, they heard the term and immediately without any self awarness assumed "Hmm... 'Pure', huh?... Must be something bad" and assumed it means people who uphold some kinda good wholesome values and thus any backwards regressive people who don't believe in modern idealsIt's why you'll have people refer to others online as "puritans", the new word has no correlation to the Puritan Protestant movement
>>719564056Most Disneyfags only care about new shit, the reinasance era or marketable Princess stuff
>>719564056Some stories are just most popular than others, some disney movies like Black Cauldron also lack the sauce that other movies had, when it comes to female popularity it's largely due to how they're characterized and how much screentime they have, Alice for instance has a deadly combinatino of being a character from a very popular book, having a really cute design and being on screen at all times, meanwhile Shanti has four minutes of screentimes at best but good god does she make those count holy shit.Some of them are simply too old as well, like Princess Aurora or Cinderella, they can't compete about the more "recent" girls like Belle or Ariel because the boomers who probably fapped to them are dead by now and there isn't any generation turn over to keep those girls popular.Last but not least, you have furries and furries are VERY vocal and proactive when it comes to these things, so characters like Lady Marian enjoy a very specific boost that normal human girls don't really have.
>>719562434And would you keep nibbling native girl asshole if you knew how problematic it is? Thats what I thought chud.
>>719545589>RepresentationAre we voting for something? I feel like this word just never really fits here. "Representation" is not some important factor in any regard to video games. People want variety and interesting things and different cultures can be a source of that.
>>719564056>Nobody really gives a fuck about Wendy DarlingBecause why would you when Mary Darling is objectively superior?
>>719564485If that were the case the girl from Wish or Raya would be household names. Elsa is really the only Gen Z princess to stick and thats because her solo song literally worms its way into your head and gets stuck there for days. Hell I know the lyrics and I have NEVER seen Frozen.
Go to Germany OP. They go fucking crazy for native american shit. Old bavarian boomers get in trouble every year for cosplaying winnetou but it never stops them.I think it reminds them of their own tribal history.
>>719564704Eilonwy has basically all the right ingredients to be highly regarded (cute design, great personality, pedigree, sex voice, flirtatious) but it's dragged down by Taran being uninteresting. I can't really explain it, but he straddles a line between Wart/Arthur and Shinji Ikari that just makes him unlikeable enough for Elionwy to be wasted on him.Goddamn, people still ship Arthur with the Squirrel. Robot Chicken even made fun of it.
>>719565237>Krauts are weeaboos when it comes to native americanTIL
>>719545589You got the best ac game
>>719565410>Goddamn, people still ship Arthur with the Squirrel.Who else would they ship Arthur with?That squirrel was also thirsty as fuck.
>>719565570Wild west comics often featuring very romanticized native Americans used to be huge in Europe. They are still pretty popular among boomers. Pic related is Belgian comic Zilverpijl that ran from 1970–1986.
>>719565237Not a German but I think it has a lot to do with their culture. Most of European countries are very patriotic, but that's a big no-no in current American culturosphere. Doubly so for Germans for obvious reasons: hence the outlet is nationalistic depictions of other countries. As a lifehack: if you ever meet Germans that you have to get along with, say that you like Kraftwerk or some other German band. They'll talk your ear off right away and if you can manage that you have instantly made a friend for life. Like most Europeans, Germans are very proud people and giving them recognition makes them happy beyond words >>719564938Its feminine identity politics. Its all about attention. If you arent seen, you dont exist. Who the fuck cares if, say, a fantasy game has pseudo-Iroquois, pseudo-Aztecs, pseudo-Romans or pseudo-Chinese, as long as the game is fun and interesting. Gamers dont care, they just want good games. These id-pol people dont care about that, they want their ingroup to be brought to forefront because to be seen is to exist. Ignore such foolish feminine actions and keep on enjoying what (you) like.
>>719545589post more chel
>>719545589I'd love more games with indians in them, but your kind made any depiction of yourselves racist.I'd love a new Turok or Prey.
>>719566531>your kindThe Shiny-Rock-Hill tribe?
>>719546043Native American's don't give a shit. It's white college liberals who are throwing the fit on their "behalf".
>>719545589Natives don't want representation they just want gibs. It all circles around to gibs to them. They're truly the most awful and entitled group to work with at an official level, I wish we genocided then when we had the chance.
>>719545589You went extinct. O.O
>>719547584>That chick from Custer's Revenge
>>719545589Natives americans are inherently racist as defined by the left, so any atempt will be wrong, bad and harmful.Its just not worth even touching the subject now.
There are hundreds of millions of Latinx with more injun ancestry than your average American/Canadian reservation injun, yet they're convinced they're Romans despite having nothing to do with Latium.
>>719566020>want to impress german chickswhat's the most accessible german band I can listen to so I won't embarrass myself just dropping the name
>>719567843I usually try to see if someone is cool by mentioning Falco, if they know and like him they are cool, if not they suck.
>>719552628Overwatch has RoadhogGears of War has Sam, who isn't from Australia or even Earth, but is basically just space abo
>>719553429Then help kick the jews out.
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