Reddit

Troons and their simps, like always.

in the general sense? trannies
on this board specifically? that one tranny retard that wants to fuck deers and won't stop spamming dogshit threads

>>719547570
It insists upon itself.

>>719547570
faggots that want to write muh epic story about le OC that spans multiple SCP entries instead of secluding it off to the tales section

Discord

>>719547570
Tumblrization. It went from being a catalog of well written, mysterious creatures and artifacts to a collection of ebin fan fiction about the end of the world and containment breech rehashing, with 3 different pantheons of ultra powerful gods, a bunch of random melodrama about how scientists hate themselves and how cruel the foundation's procedures are, and uber powerful oc scps that have their own super special rating and a doc only viewable by the 05 council who likes to write homestuck fanfiction and will destroy the universe if it doesn't get to post about Dave pozzing Karkat's neghole.

>>719547570
The lack of gatekeeping though generally there were some dudes OC or were incredibly edgy so it’s kind of a divide on good vs bad SCPs throught the years.
SCP 5K game is alright though.

Tards will tell you that BLM and troonshit. But the real rot started with 682 and powerwanking + later staff snowflake OCs

>>719548549
Was Cain before or after SCP became big because if it’s before, people tend to forget him a lot.

>>719547570
Degen pride logo on every damn article.
Apparently the authors of an article could customize if it appeared, and the high number of articles where it appeared told you all you needed to know.
I'm not even a pollack.

Your mom

>>719547570
Trannies, Absolutely trannies
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JQf8UC_PMaI&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD

It went from a collection of loosely connected short form horror, mystery and esoteric fiction with a set of ground rules and terminology as framing device, to dozens of different linked SCPs and continuities with their own rules and jargon all trying not to step on each other's toes.
Instead of being short explorations of a concept that entreat the reader to speculate, they're entire narratives playing out that explain absolutely everything and tell you how to feel, and introduce a million unique characters.

With the original SCPs, the people running the tests on the anomalies didn't matter. The specific dates didn't matter, and specific locations didn't matter. It was just "Here's a weird thing. It may or may not be dangerous, here's how we poked and prodded at it to try to understand it, or here's what we do to keep it from causing problems."

As soon as overarching narratives and connections above and beyond cameos and answering obvious questions about interactions between two SCPs started becoming the norm, the quality went way down.

SCP was at its best when the names of the scientists were always redacted, because they didn't matter, D-Class personnel were always referred to by number, and the number of D-Class personnel necessary was at least close to reasonable, and they weren't just an infinite supply of fodder to be thrown into one of 5000 woodchippers at will.

>>719547570
The same thing that ruined everything Pinky, trannies and faggots.

Pedophiles

>>719547570
I don't get it, isn't SCP in the end just a theme or framework for horror stories/entities? What's stopping Anons from incorporating only the ones they find the most fitting and either ignoring or modifying the rest?

>>719552041
shhhh you have to be angry okay?

Tumblr OC's

if the site had any integrity, any mention of Dr. Clef and all the other fucking "characters" would be permanently banished to hell where they belong

>>719552041
The bad ones drove off the few people who made the good ones and attracted a whole new audience who only want more of the shitty ones. They made a whole other website, and that got brigaded to death by Nu-SCP trolls.

Not to mention the fact that they literally went back and rewrote shit they didn't like. A horror website rewrote an entire concept revolving around how horrifying it would be for a woman to have a supernatural curse that attracts men against their will, whether she wants it or not. That's fundamental horror, and it's not excusing or aggrandizing rape at all, but they still rewrote it because it actually made them uncomfortable. Which was the point. It's fucking horror.

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>>719550606
at least I don't have to type anything

Allowing anyone to make shit is both how it lived and grew, and how it died.

>>719552236
What's wrong with modern Clef? Old clef is a mess just like his peers but modern one is complex ad

>>719552341
Self-insert bullshit doesn't belong

>>719547570
Going mainstream, like everything else

>>719552341
There shouldn't be consistent characters at all. The Foundation is supposed to be a faceless, soulless organization of an esoteric nature all its own, barely holding back all the fantastical shit that used to be commonplace.
Essentially, it's an answer for "Why don't we see any monsters or supernatural phenomena anymore, even though history and myth are full of them?"
Incorporating human characters defeats the purpose, and again adds overarching narratives that turn it from an exploration of individual concepts within a framework to a circlejerk of crossing canon trying not to step on each other's toes. Which makes it a mess.

>>719552537
So no human SCPs too?

Trannies as usual.

>>719552324
Damn, I see. I saw that the license was rather permissive if not for the need to reuse it, but given how they treated "dissenters" I completely understand why someone would not want to touch anything explicitly SCP. I guess the only thing one can do is create their own not-SCPs like Abiotic Factor or LobCorp did.
>They made a whole other website, and that got brigaded to death by Nu-SCP trolls.
Name? I might check it out if there are any available archives of it out there.

>>719547570
When it stopped being an interesting catalogue of anomalies and started being some gay fanfic universe filled with Gary Stus and OCs. This was a problem long before the current infestation of far leftists turned it into LGBTWTFBBQ propaganda.
Playing Abiotic Factor recently made me miss old SCP so much, because it almost gets the formula for a good SCP game down perfectly.

>>719547570
The same thing that ruined sonic: It attracted overly autistic kids, who are bad at writing.
SCPs:
>This stapler looks harmless but actually has god powers to destroy the entire universe and mind control anyone who looks at it
is just
>this hedgehog served in 15 wars, says the fuck word and killed sonic, pssssh...nothin personnel...kid...
It's the same level of bad writing. Stupid kids only Idea of something being "cool" and "awesome" being when a character is absurdly strong, or powerful. Which means every SCP story involves at the very least threat level black, if not undetermined.
And additional factor is the "The MLP factor". By which I mean: Just like MLP, SCP is incredibly easy to insert into literally any existing fiction. Which then eventually annoys people who enjoy that fiction, because their shit is being spammed with ponies/SCP.

>>719552604
You know what I meant. Named characters who aren't anomalous and appear in more than one entry. Continuity and codependency of SCPs was ultimately what caused the problems that ruined it.
Having the same human character be involved across multiple SCPs inevitably leads to a sidebar story about that character and the story becomes less and less about the weird thing that it's actually supposed to be about.

Ur mom

>>719547570
The guy who made the site ruined it.
This was a 4chan thing and the guy who made the site was a 4chan poster. But then when he made the site he started banning 4chan posters and replacing them with redditors.
The guy is a fat literal neckbeard, a disgusting sub-human. He used social justice virtue signaling to get women on the site and instead of getting women he got homosexuals and troons. Then he tried to use his clout to pressure they/thems into sucking his penis.
His site became a circlejerk for far-left lunatics who were allowed on the site for no other reason than the fat fuck trying to get laid.

The second SCP was over was when the host of the site made his own OC called Dr. Bright, which is just himself but thin and everyone wants to fuck him. He inserted himself into every SCP. His mods followed his example. All of the mods have names like ''Sir Rumplebottom Doctorwho'' and they insert themselves into stories. You can look up any of the fat disgusting mods and their names appear in thousands of SCPs where they heroically defeat them.
SCP turned into a hangout for troons and pushing LGBTP+ became the primary focus of the site. Even though the fat fuck got cancelled and went into hiding, the damage can't be undone.

>>719554304
yikes

>>719554304
is bright really from 4chan?

>>719547570
Democracy.

>check these threads
>always just RPC faggots who mourn about bright and clef despite you can just write a new article without any faggotry and post it on site

>>719548440
>uber powerful oc scps
Abel.

>>719555536
The funniest thing is that those issues originate from the first 2000 articles. This isn't a 4000+ thing. This is how it was almost from the very beginning. And that doesn't mean that it's a good thing or that you can't be critical of it. It just pisses me off to see people nostalgic for a past that never was. With this said, the pozzing is real and it's pissing me off.

>My OC is stronger than yours!
>Nu uh! My OC actually can do X and BTFO your shitty OC!
And so on

>>719556683
Any instances of SCP articles that do this?

>>719556556
You can certainly see the shift in quirky tumblr oc shit, for sure, but a major part of SCP had been cringe shit ever since its inception and the ideal SCP in many anon's mind is just flat out boring sometimes

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>>719554798
Yes. This is the guy. DrBright is just his skinny fursona. His username was AdminBright and he is the one who wrote Dr. Bright.
He even wears the medallion in real life.

Also I misremembered his allegations being that he was just a creepy pushy dude. The guy actually tried to fuck kids.

>>719556724
>You can certainly see the shift in quirky tumblr oc shit
Personally, I don't (unless you talking about AICs). Later SCPs are much less likely to be about a singular entity, human or otherwise.

>>719556724
Kill yourself, troon

>>719556864
three words.
gamers against weed.
serpants hand was close to that but them being constant idealistic jobbers saved them from being mary sues.
but GAW is literally just the art group except with quirky tumblr artists instead.

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>DrBright

>>719547570
Realistically, nothing really ruined it. It's just /x/ creepypasta which some trannies made a website for. The trannies don't have any special authority to claim /x/ culture, so you could always ignore their gay wiki and shoddy OCs.

>What ruined it?
(You)

>>719557374
Troons didn't make shit. They co-opted the site with the help of DrPedophile

>>719548549
I heard that 682 was basically supposed to be a power ceiling to prevent said powerwanking.

>>719557201
>>719556849
>not even a lolichad
>just straight up a slimy fucking pedophile
yikes

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>>719557379
But to be fair, SCP was never good.

Auto'd?

people that wanted old SCPs to change instead of making their own SCPs.

>>719556721
They had to create multiple SCPs just to stop that shitflinging. 682 and Abel being the big ones, and the introduction of Thaumiel-Class as something only SCP-2000 would get was also in that vein.

There's just too much power creep, and every obstacle that got put up just forced the power to creep in directions that hadn't been considered yet.

>>719556864
Yeah, that's the problem, most of them aren't about a single cohesive phenomenon There are always SCP-XXX-y's that always add a bunch of backstory that kills the pacing and clinical tone.

I want "weird object or place that does weird thing." Not a fucking novel. If it takes just as long or longer to describe the doodads as it does the main anomaly itself you've fucked it up.

>>719558770
power creep is such a stupid thing. it should be canon that not all of the articles are correct, that there are decoy articles for the sake of counterintelligence, thus if two SCPs contradict each other nobody gives a shit because it's probably fake news anyway (...or is it?)

and you are correct, any SCP should be an immediately graspable concept, the writing isn't nearly good enough on any of them to justify spending more than 5 minutes on them. If there's a big secondary test log, great, but the concept should be immediately understandable. Although there are of course always exceptions, I remember that one with the mirrors and the dimension with big legless religious monsters being cool despite being long, and the one where some researcher is stuck in unreality with nothing but a blinking light, those were cool.

>>719559086
>it should be canon
There is no canon. Everyone is free to construct their own SCP universe in their head.
>any SCP should be an immediately graspable concept
I don't fully agree with this. "Horror mystery" and "immediately graspable" often don't work well together.

>>719559274
SCP is not a horror mystery format, it's an "anomalous object/being" format, presented through scientific reports. It's about a catalogued paranormal phenomenon, there are no lone women moving into countryside new england mansions where everything appears normal at first. The concept needs to be easily digestible because it's a shared fiction repository so the writing WILL be sub par, so you need to respect the time and effort the reader takes to go through your slop. And what all time classic SCPs aren't immediately graspable? (of course the format is set up so that you're left to wonder what the thing is, by presenting containment procedure first, but you could say "evil statue that teleports when you blink" and someone would immediately get it

>>719559274
>There is no canon
Tell that to all the independent jargon terms that became hard and fast rules, like Humes.

>Horror Mystery and Immediately Graspable often don't work well together.
Not every SCP needs to be a mystery, most aren't and the early SCPs that were, still managed to grab you pretty quickly.

There's no mystery about who made the coffee machine, the vending machine, the equivalent exchange machine or the statue. There's no mystery about who the Plague Doctor is or what 682 is, and there's no way for the reader to figure it out, by design. Because it's not fucking Columbo. It's just esoteric concepts and unsettling things presented in a sterile, clinical manner.

>>719559606
>SCP is not a horror mystery format, it's an "anomalous object/being" format, presented through scientific reports.
The very first SCP was a ripoff of Doctor Who's weeping angels. It's not always horror, nor does it always have to be horror, but it is one of SCP's core themes, with the most important theme being the scientific report style.

>>719559872
>Not every SCP needs to be a mystery
I agree. But there are many horror themed articles that I really like that wouldn't work if every article needed to be "easily digestible".

Most people don't understand horror. Horror is a niche genre already, and subtle horror is a niche genre of a niche genre.

In other words, it was too good and got too popular.

>>719560056
163 is horror, but where is the mystery? It's just a statue that fucking kills you, there's not much to it other than that.

>>719560056
>The very first SCP was a ripoff of Doctor Who's weeping angels.
SCP-173 was actually a simultaneous invention with the Weeping Angels. The 4chan post came before Blink first aired, but only by about a week. Technically the Weeping Angels did come first, but Moto42 almost certainly didn't know about them.

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>>719548542
Thoughts on actual well written monsters that have minor ties to shitty self insert characters?
>3999
>590
>166(old one)
>3812
>that one

>>719547570
Nothing because it is a open source project you are free to shape into anything you want. Nobody can send you a cease and desist letter for making your own version of the setting. Do not give up so easily.

>>719560801
OK

>>719560801
>free to shape into anything you want
the lack of focus is what ruins it, if it is everything then it is nothing

>>719560801
>free to shape into anything you want
Not until it upsets some loony troon that forces you to rewrite it or takes it down, like what happened to The Flesh That Hates.

>>719560801
>Nobody can send you a cease and desist letter for making your own version of the setting.
They tried. It was called RPC. And all the people who worked on that got harassed and spammed to Hell for it. TheVolgun had to make an apology tweet years after the fact for just designing the logo, even though he's on their side.
Those people are never satisfied, and they'll go out of their way to ruin anything that doesn't give them special treatment. It happened with /tg/station too. All the original players and developers were run off and now it's just a giant circlejerk of insular tertiaries who resent the people who built the community in the first place.

>>719562445
maybe its just because rps sucks

>>719561889
>like what happened to The Flesh That Hates.
quick rundown?

>>719561889
>>719562565
Nothing happened to the flesh that hates. It is exactly the same article.
>>719562445
RPC was literally led by dumb teenager as the head admin. He did not know his simple right to block and mind his business. Everyone on /x/ called him stupid just for talking to known manipulative assholes and predators like djkaktus on Discord of all fucking places.

>>719562445
You make it sound like RPC is no longer around. There are stil people who write for it. It is not big as the SCP wiki but they seem to like it that way.

>>719547570
4chan, for not gatekeeping hard enough.

>>719563004
There was a recent sperg out by scp fans on xitter after some big meme account mentioned RPC

>>719562904
>RPC was literally led by dumb teenager as the head admin
I remember when RPC was just going to be a proper replacement SCP wiki with the same name and everything. Then djkaktus or someone threatened legal action (they had no fucking case under the creative commons license), and scared the ignorant teen into changing the name to RPC Authority. It could have been great if leadership was simply stronger.

>>719547570
It got backroom'ed

>>719562565
I think anon means the hateful star. Whole thing got rewritten into fanfic tier trash after the original author went to write for RPC

>>719563430
I know but that happens from time to time and stays on Twitter. It still did not go the actual wiki which is still up.
>inb4 Volgun made a public apology for the logo
He was always a coward.

>>719563540
What does that even mean in this context? People complained about The Backrooms being turned into a copy of SCP with monsters and shadow organizations. You can't use Backrooms in reverse to critique SCP when SCP was always about those things.

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>>719547570
Trannies, self insert authors and overused tropes. There are still a few enjoyable new SCP articles but they are few and far between at this point. Latest one I actually enjoyed was 7000 but the ending just ruins it. I miss the days where it was just:
>weird thing and how we contain it
Versus
>Long preamble message
>Article
>5 clickable sub articles laden with references to additional scp’s by the same fucking author
>one big message with the revelation
>scp containment note
>another final fucking message
Shit is just so exhausting…

>>719563991
Quantity over quality

SCP failed for the same reason WH40K's lore is a fucking mess: these collaberative writing projects just dont work. Too many people suck ass at writing and you need strong quality control which SCP lacked. This lack of QC and weak admins was also what let subversive forces slither in.

Plenty of good answers. But really, what do you expect when the centre cannot hold? Things fall apart

>>719564664
The thing with SCP is that you are free to decide what you want to be canon or not. SCP is more like a sandbox of ideas. In WH40K you can't just ignore what you do not like.

>>719559872
>like Humes
holy shit i hate that retarded garbage so much. i just stop reading when i see an article starts saying shit like
>the thing was tested with all the standard tests and doesn't emits humes, akiva, memes, antimemes, doesn't react to SRAs, it's not shitphysical or pissphysical or retardphysical...
yeah yeah i get it your anomaly is so much more anomalous and special compared to other anomalies it doesn't even use any of the dumb power systems (that nothing originally used to begin with)

>>719562904
qrd on that djcucktus thing?

>>719564664
40k's lore isn't a collaborative project, gw is anal about what their authors are allowed to do and will fire them for being uncooperative

>>719564939
basically adminbright without the pedo stuff(yet)

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>>719564939
He is a dick that thinks highly of himself and also a sex pest. Unfortunately, the wiki gives him special treatment out of fear he will behave like Fishmonger by requesting all of his shit deleted out of spite. The controversy from it will expose both parties for their shady bullshit. I recommend watching this video to learn more about some of the shit he has done. When this video got posted he private his Twitter account and started to talk about retiring from the wiki. He does not write as much but it is only because he knows his days are numbered. The same happened with Bright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmmU3z6Gu8

>>719547570
trannies

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>>719565486
Yet CS Goto exists and his work is considered cannon. Curious.

Djkaktus

>>719566941
Who

>>719562565
There was a bit where one of the things gets into one of the suits and sexually violates one of the female crew members or something like that. It made some there very upset, so it was removed.

>>719566018
If it's all Creative Commons, he has no legal right to request a takedown, right?

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Remember when chuds had a meltdown over SCP putting a rainbow flag and created dozens of SCP clones that died in two weeks because chuds couldn't write or maintain communities for shit?

Oversaturation
Same thing that ruins all horror (and internet horror especially, with children demanding an explanation for every detail because 'more = better')

>>719569207
Yes but scum in the past threatened law suits. The admins do not want to deal with it. Kaktus can also expose to a wider auduence the fact the wiki admins knew Bright was a sex pest for years and coverd it up. There is also the concern of the legal costs. It is suspected they embezzled money from the last legal case when they dealt with the Russian trademark incident. There is a lot of shady shit behind the scenes that Kaktus got to participate in.

>>719547570
Project Nortubel

>>719560620
The succubus was alright if jusr a tad exploitive.
The rewrite of 03-Mantauk was good abd replaced it with the edgy child rape with something that made more sense.
Faggots will say say it’s ruined but I personally think it was turned into something more tasteful while keeping the originals idea, as edgy as it is.
It’s a short story called “Fear Alone”.

>>719548542
>SCP5K is interesting
it’s an incredibly interesting idea that’s somewhat usurped by the fact that it adds a greater cause or plot to the SCP universe while also simultaniously creating a very boring ebtity that is vaguely humanoid and not eldrich.

>>719547570
The best SCPs, like the best Backrooms levels, were the ones which weren't scary but more curious ideas. Like the machine that can make things finer/rougher and the coffee machine that can make you a drink of anything
But then troons got ahold of it and curious ideas became "joke SCPs" while every single standard SCP just became another world ending entity which hates humanity or something

>>719569368
It's more that people don't want SCP knockoffs. People want SCP, but not pozzed. SCP knockoffs only work when they are attached to other media, like Control or Abiotic Factor.

>>719547570
LBTQPJX+- infiltration.

>>719569368
You don't fool anyone tranny, kys
These sites failed because people who aren't mentally ill like you don't care for collective writing projects for decades. We got tired of making more and more SCP entities while troons in the official one have nothing else to do in their lives so they waste them writing fanfictions about their OC characters o algo

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Don't look.

hugbox community that doesn't have the balls to tell someone when their writing sucks

>>719547570
>What ruined it?
When they started rewriting SCPs for being problematic and too disturbing.
The straw that broke the camel's back was SCP 166. A teenaged succubus who was unable to control her powers, which led to all men who gazed upon her being driven mad with lust, to the point where they would want to rape her, no matter how noble or heroic they normally were. The story was super tragic because this succubus was a kind, christian girl that didn't WANT to destroy other people's lives, so she WILLINGLY lets herself be contained.
When the politically correct crowd took over SCP, SCP-166 was one of the first to be rewritten because it was so "disturbing" and "problematic" and it was a concept that according to them, only a pedophile could like. These morons were incapable of separating fiction and reality. They couldn't see the tragic and sad nature of the story because they were more concerned with virtual signaling then engaging with the actual story.

>>719570938
>w-we didn't want it a-anyway!!
lol

>>719571584
Aside from the censorship and the rewrites, nu-SCP also suffers from insane powercreeps and OCs.
No longer can an SCP simply be a creepy monster, a disturbing concept, or something that's simply uncanny. Every SCP has to be a Beasts of Revelations level threat that can travel across the multiverse to surpass fiction itself to bring about the apocalypse in real life. And if you know about, you, the reader, are damn you to eternal torment and insanity because it can sense when you read about it. Shit like that isn't scary, its goofy.
Especially when the writer can't help themselves so they shove in their OC self insert (Dr. Bright and Dr Bright are great examples) who is a 200 IQ genius whose single-handily holding back the apocalypse with his plans and super powers.

>>719547570
Autistic people with no social iq.
>B-BUT TRANNIES
Trannies are autistic men so my statement doesnt change

>>719556721
>Any instances of SCP articles that do this?
Literally every article involving the Scarlet King

>>719552763
Hell, how hasn't anyone answered yet?

http://rpcauthority.wikidot.com/

It's just a shell of what the old SCP was, but some people claim is "more authentic". To be honest I haven't read much of either so I personally don't know the state of the sites firsthand, although I do know of some new scps that look written by a 13 yo Shadow the Edge fan

List of KINO SCPs
SCP-1733 (The Basketball Tape)
SCP-2614 (The Sopranos Tape)
SCP-2852 (Cousin Johnny)
SCP-173 (The Weeping Angel Expy)
SCP-1609 (The Broken Chair)
SCP-096 (The Shy Guy)
SCP 231 (The Pregnant woman)
SCP-3004 (Don't wanna spoil this one. Go in blind when you read it)
SCP-2852 (Cousin Johnny)
SCP-5000 (Why?)
SCP-1879 (The Salesman)

What else is worth reading?

>>719557123
GAW's only problem is that they're missing an evil counterpart because what's usually regarded as their "evil counterpart" (or AWCY) isn't even a group that partakes in internet memes and instead partakes in sculptures that nobody cares about

>>719547570
Original SCPs were written by people who wrote a wide range of fiction. They wrote fantasy stories if they wanted to create medieval stories with dragons, they wrote somethingawful articles if they wanted to write something funny and meme-y, and they wrote SCP articles if they wanted some creepy quasi-scientific stuff.
Modern SCPs are written by people who only write SCPs. They write SCPs if they want to create medieval stories with dragons, they write SCPs if they want to write something funny and meme-y, and they write SCP articles if they want some creepy quasi-scientific stuff (which still pops up, sometimes).
Imagine if a whole bunch of people only write haikus and nothing else, leading them to re-write the entire MCU in a 500-poem length series of plot-focused haikus. That's what SCP is these days.