Games should be crisp and readable
>game :l>game but shit :O
>>719548259No.More detail = more awesome!
Spyro Year of The Dragon. How detailed is the skate park?
>>719548259Both look good.
>>719548259truth nuke in the hunt for better and better graphics people forget the core of graphics is telling you what you need to know and when it becomes a issue they just hastily fixes it with yellow paint
>>719548259>>719548793um, more polygons and fancy lighting please!
>>719548259I'll stay with the original
Stop caring about graphics.Start caring about gameplay.Both are shit from gameplay standpoint, and that is the only standpoint that matters.
>>719549298Pseud retard lmao
>>719548394Yeah why are zoomers like this, they see UE slop and their mouths are instantly agape
>>719548259Not retro
>>719548259all that detail just makes you see the flaws more clearly
>>719548259>GAMES SHOULD BE... LE CRISP AND LE READABLE>WHY IS MODERN ARCHITECTURE SO PLAIN AND BORING? WE USED TO BUILD AWESOME PALACES WITH MARBLE LIONS AND SHIT
>>719549298>dude just stop using your eyes!how about you stop using your lungs
>>719549526>>719550482filtered
>>719548259This has nothing to do with readability. Top looks like a primitive rendition of genuine renaissance style. Bottom looks like it's a theme park made out of cardboard.The timber frame water structures look particularly out of place. I also really love the lighting in the original Spyro and I don't get why they didn't try to replicate it since it doesn't even seem hard to do.
>>719549958Game companies have spent billions trying to convince players more graphics = more gooder. So that they didn't have to actually innovate gameplay in the past 20 years. Gen Z was very young when this campaign started (around 7th gen), so they fell for it pretty hard.
>>719548259bad example pic, both look good you could've posted Halo as a better example
>>719548259Just say you want everything to look like a PS1 game again.
>>719548259I dont see much of an issue besides that part where the stone was replaced with the half timber frames being kind of "noisy"
>>719548259>remake skyboxes
>>719550116outsourcing to india: not even once
>>719548259why did they remove old symbol and add one of bees having sex?I can't remember the story of this level but is this temple meant to be in disrepair? In the remake they have done a demon souls and added damaged and overgrowth, the damage is stupid as well as the placement and type makes no sense
>>719554573ego + incompetence. the faggot responsbile for art direction of the remake got a simple job of remaking an old classic. he thought the task was below him and genuinely believed he could improve upon it and utterly failed at doing so. we're now left with this tasteless tripe of a demaster forever
>>719554573I'm willing to bet someone misinterpreted a glitchy texture somewhere to mean there's two of these, I swear I remember some anon pointing it out back when the remasters released
luv me TAA and shit tonemapper top muddy up some visuals.
>>719556310erm, that's le heppin SOVL btw
>>719553583>both look goodWrong, the bottom pic has too much detail in unnecessary places, distracting lights, ugly clutter like grass, messy values for platform planes, ugly soft edges, garish colors etc
Why were the Spyro remasters so dogshit ugly, bros?
One of the reasons modern WoW is unplayable. Compare vanilla zones to anything since BFA. Retail wow zones literally make me nauseous
>>719548259they both are good
>>719548259Bottom looks better
>>719553996Stock UE skyboxes.What's wrong? Can't handle some LAZY SLOP in your remakes, chud? Check your priviledge.
>>719548259crisp and breadable more like
>>719554573The grass haphazardly placed on top of a paved surface is way worse than this
>>719561479no soul
>>719561479>Why were the Spyro remasters so dogshit ugly, bros?Because the devs weren't given any fucking time and half of the game was outsourced to India.The same key TFB staff worked on Gigantic, and for as much as a flop as that game was, it looks closer to a modern interpretation of the original Spyro games than the remakes did.
>>719554573This anon wants to fuck bees.
>>719562782Just increase nvidia digital vibrance. Prolem solved
>>719548259Cannot stand this soulless clash of clans looking style that all modern 3d platformers and remakes get. Most the areas in the spyro remake don't even look like their originalAnother thing I always hate is that the player character feels so small compared to their environment. It's so big and overcrowded with unnecessary detail I can't process what the fuck is happening or where I am.
>>719554573I guess they didn't want to have any Christian symbols
>>719548394You're special>>719549958You're special>>719552965You're special
>>719564170I'll be that fag and say, everything should be cel-shaded if you still want high fidelity. AT least, something stylistic, we have fan mods that capture the lighting of 2D renders, and you're telling me you can't make something with at least as good? Fuck off.
>>719564690no fuck you you're special
>>719564170>Another thing I always hate is that the player character feels so small compared to their environmentYeah I was watching some footage of the new Cobra game and that stood out to me, you basically can't even make out who the player character is supposed to be with how small the model is
>>719549298graphics (and sound) are inexorably tied to gameplay or the game couldn't phyiscally exist, you imbecilenever post again
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>>719565041Games are so zoomed out now because zoomers complained about not being able to see where you're going in older 2D platformers
>>719564579That sounds like a ridiculous explanation. And yet probably closest to the truth. Fucking leftists....
>>719564579>>719565274The normal symbol does appear in the remaster, just not where it used to be
>>719560426>topcan immediately tell where you can walk and jump>bottomMight as well be random promo artI don't understand why this is now an omnipresent problem.
>>719565041This is me when game's have bird-eye's view.I hate it, I hate being small.
>>719562945I mean it is hip
>>719564690mad gen Zer detected
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>>719565504Competence crisis
>>719548259Bottom looks fine, but it's undeniably overdesigned>top+ Simple and to the point+ Stone looks like stone- worse floor brick cohesion - shitty, limited pillar & pedestal designs>bottom+ looks more lively+ water actually looks like it's coming somewhere- devs took too many creative liberties, lots of unnecessary changes like the wooden pieces, and over-decorated environment- weird-ass meaningless patterns repeated everywhere, while the pattern from the original is only seen on one or two spots
>>719548259>>719548904I tried correcting the colors on the Reignited version, but it didn't match that much.
>>719553996lol Logan Paul is ginger
>>719565504>I don't understand why this is now an omnipresent problem.Because normal friends and gen Zers want things to look 'realistic' and highly detailed. Which directly goes against the sort of high readability that is required in video games.It's why modern devs have abandoned all pretense and just slather yellow paint over the screen.
>>719565041Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. It's so zoomed out you can see too much stuff but not enough of what you actually need to be looking at
>>719548259bottom looks better
>>719565504I think it's just because everything has so much detail. A lot of games now just look like Unreal Engine garbage where even the background elements have way too much polish and detail. Before, all the background elements had simpler models and textures to save space, whilst the most important focal points, like the main character had the most detail.I think the problem is mostly due to the games industry being in bed with the computer graphics industry. Games don't need to be CGI films.
>>719548259top looks better
>>719548259What is a modern game that has the clarity of the top image?
>>719548259only problem with bottom is the brown filterotherwise very kino adaptation
>>719574132Indie scrimblo games
>>719574226Nah
>>719574682Look at better indie games.
>>7195482596th-7th gen was the sweet spot.5th gen looks too crunchy and 8th gen barely looks like videogames anymore.
>>719574819Too dark
>>719550252I'm not Crash Bandicoot in real life you fucking moron
>>719574819What game?
>>719574894>7th gen>sweet spotJesus Christ no, that whole generation had maybe 10 good looking games total
>>719574937Nah, it's perfectly readable. Your image is an environment lit by torches, the one from that WebM has no light aside from the sky and moon, so it being darker is fine. It's still vibrant and easy to see.>>719575063https://store.steampowered.com/app/2985610/The_Big_Catch_Tacklebox/It's a standalone demo for a game that isn't out yet. Plays sort of like Sly Cooper 1 if it didn't let you auto-snap to everything with the Circle button and the main collectible category were the apes from Ape Escape.
>>719574894Gaming died with 7th gen. 6th gen hits the best middle ground of readability but enough memory and storage to actually do everything you want.I personally like 5th gen the best, but it does lack in some technical aspects at times. Still absolutely beautiful when pulled off correctly.
>>719548259Yes. This is one of the biggest problems with Monster Hunter right now. They have to tell you how the monster is doing with popups.
>>719575201>Your image is an environment lit by torches, the one from that WebM has no light aside from the sky and moon, so it being darker is fine. That was an intentional choice to make the platforms visible even at night, you do not design the gameplay around the context but rather the context around the gameplay, Spyro isn't purple because someone decided it as an arbitrary design choice, he's purple so he would stand out against the mostly green and yellow environmentsJust because you arbitrarily decided the level's environment should be night doesn't mean you should skimp out on glancability to preserve the night feeling >It's still vibrant and easy to see.Not as clear and readable as it could be without feeling artificial
>>719575783The image you just made literally shows that all of the relevant walkable sections are visibly brighter than everything else even at night. You just proved yourself wrong.
>>719575861It shows they blend into the environment and aren't glanceable, especially visible in the downsized blurred version of the comparison
>>719575928>It shows they blend into the environment and aren't glanceableAre you blind? Even in the downsized version the grind rails and platforms are super clearly visible.
>>719576005The grind rails visibility is irrelevant because you're locked into them, the tower platform is basically invisible
>>719576285The tower platform is only there as a safety net when hopping onto the grind rails, dumbass. The rail is way more important because that's the only thing you're actually jumping to there.
>>719576490That doesn't mean it should blend into the environment
>>719576671And it doesn't. You can clearly see it coming up.
>>719576732Not as much as it could
>>719578667The game also operates on a ~20 minute day/night cycle, so the light is constantly slowly shifting in ways that make the platform even clearer, because shadows dynamically move with the sun/moon.Seriously, it's perfectly easy to see.
>>719578772nta but I agree with him - it could use some small ambient light in that spot for the night time
Those pillars literally look like they are clipping into the walls.
>>719579245they are >>719550116the spyro demaster devs are hacks
>>719579178It doesn't because you're literally never going to stand there. Again, at most it's a safety net for if you fuck up the jump and miss the rail; making it brighter would make the player want to stand on the platform instead of the rail, which they shouldn't, because there's nothing to do there.
>>719579813then why even have that platform in the first place? just have the four pillars extend to the ground without it
>>719580327As both decoration and a safety net, dumbass. It's there if you land slightly too far to the left or right of the rail, but isn't something to shoot for directly.
you people are weirdspyro remakes look fine
>>719548259what game?>
>>719580538Unreal slop.
>>719580538especially with bianca and shelia looking cuter
>>719581213Man can not live on anthros alone.
>>719581480Speak for yourself.
>>719581480he can with that portal tech they use. i bet those places have lots of things to do now that im thinking about it
FUCKING kino
>>719562782Lets just add a little more cobblestone.
>>719581984this is ugly
>>719582936 here i only play minecraft btw i forgot to mention. idk if that matters
>>719581984my poor eyes