Who was worse?
Why does one have to be worse than another? Can't both of them be equally big of a piece of shit?
i liked micah, it was arthur who annoyed me with his moralfagging
>>719548403I dont even hate mike or whatever his name was. Arthur was a faggot and people who wrote the story were as well.
>>719548403Probably Micah, I actually found Ross to be kind of respectable in a way while Micah was a coward.
Ross, they're both backstabbing snakes but he's a glowie too.
>>719548403Ross did nothing wrong. He was doing his job.
>>719548403Ross literally did nothing wrong, he just got his job done
>>719548482you MUST choose
>>719548403Dutch
>>719548604>>719548650>kidnaps your wife and son>threatens to kill them if you don't go all over Texas and Mexico hunting your former gang members>taunts you the entire time>betrays and kills you after you run all his errandsyeah real nice guy
>>719548780I liked Ross, he was pretty scummy but also kinda based at the same time
>>719548403Probably Ross because he was a glowie. Micah was a dick but he was consistent and behaved like a true outlaw.
>>719548538>>719548604>>719548650>>719548918Total Glownigger Death
>>719549662He successfully got rid of native americans in the region and a ton of criminals, what did he do wrong
>>719548403Both are annoying
>>719548403apart from act like a dickwhat did Micah do that earned him so much hate?
>>719550203Being a liar and a rat
>>719550203>apart from the thing people dislike him for... why do people dislike him?good board.
>>719548403Micah definitely, a whiney bitch who always complained when he didnt get his wayRoss was just a plain glowy, the whole ordeal where he hunted down John and made him hunt down his old gang was just another tuesday for him, even when Jack confronts him he doesnt give a damn
>>719550203He was a weasel. The whole game you can hear him in camp asking Dutch for permission to go back for the Blackwater money, he was always going to fuck over the gang first chance he got
>>719550203Sold you out to the feds.Also, shooting up a whole town while you're already on the run is not "acting like a dick"It's complete retardation.Ross was worse though because he's a fed.
>>719549781Not keep his word.
>>719548403>If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it.Ross' institution may ultimately seek to destroy Arthur's way of life but he did so as an enemy, whereas Micah did it as an ally.
>>719550728No one is perfect, the good brought by Ross still far outweighs the negatives
>>719550728You're a retard for expecting him to. You yourself called him a glownigger, why would you trust him? At least he never was on your side. Unlike Micah who fucked over his own side
>>719548403Honestly don't understand why people hate that Ross killing John at the end so much. John was responsible for robbing and killing hundreds of people. Him getting to live a free life after all that because he did some job just wouldn't sit right with me.
>>719548403I actually did not hate Micah that much at all, especially towards the beginning
>>719551951he deserved more characterization desu. same with bill. everyone treated bill like shit and they hint he was discharged from the army for "degeneracy" but never hint at what.
>>719548403It's so fucking lame that Micah was the traitor, should've been Charles or anybody else. The devs force the normie players to hate Micah almost immediately when he is introduced when he says that he doesn't want to sleep next to Bill Williamson and a bunch of darkies
>>719552127Bill and Javier definitely should have gotten more developed considering they were in RDR1. As for Micah, I really wish we knew more about his past and his relationship with his brother Amos Bell. The letter from his brother and other rare moments in the game kind of humanize Micah a bit.
>>719552280>>719552127looking back it would have made more sense for Bill to be the one to cause friction within the gang considering his demeanor in RDR1 and the fact that hes perfectly capable of running his own gang>No more Dutch and no more you!
>>719552460Perhaps, but if Bill was the one with Micah role then I feel like John would have been much angrier at Bill in RDR1 than he actually was. It's also said multiple times in RDR1 that Dutch was the main person that went crazy and caused the downfall of the gang, and that Bill was heavily affected by that
>>719552653honestly i think the whole history of the gang was heavily sanitised in RDR2 while in RDR1 John described Dutch's gang as a run of the mill western outlaw gang with a Robin Hood complex, he described them as a bunch of rotten bastards and mostly blamed Dutch for things going southGuess Rockstar didnt want people to just play as generic outlaws but its hard to imagine the gang that had Lenny, Tilly, Orville or Pearson as being the same gang John talked about in RDR1
>>719552460I wished RDR2's story centered more heavily around the characters from RDR1 instead of giving all the story attention to completely new characters
>>719552460yeah in RDR1 he's an evil piece of shit but in 2 he's just a gunman who everyone makes fun of. i remember bill says something about the natives and saying he "saw things" while in the army and dutch pretty much tells him to shut the fuck up
I hate arthur for letting things get to the point they did with his inaction
>>719552929If you look at some of the early concept art for RDR2 you can still sorta see that darker vibe from RDR1, so it probably became more toned down and sanitised as development went on.
>>719553178old arthur looks like a british rapist
>>719548403In terms of what effect they had on society I think Ross is clearly much better
>>719553178Never realized until now that Arthur was also blonde, thought it was brown hair
>>719550203Killed a dog. Killed a little girl
>>719548403The assassination of John Marston by the coward Edgar Ross and the fact that he was a glownigger are infinitely worse than anything Micah has ever done.
>>719548541>>719549607>>719553869Ross isn't merely A glowie. He is literally THE FIRST glowie, as a founding member of the FBI. The very creator of glowism
>>719553953Gonna need a source on that one
>>719554262ross was head of the bureau of investigation which later turned into the modern fbi
>>719553296yeah i mean marston was disrupting foreign rebellions like he was CIA before the CIA even existed lmao
>>719548403Ross because he's a glownigger, there is nothing in this world worse than a glownigger.
>>719548780karma's a bitch ain't, john?
>>719548403Now /v/ pretend that Micah was wrong? Fucking retarded niggers...
>>719548403Micah for sure
>>719548403I hated lenny.
I don't consider RDR2 canon.
why did micah rat out the gang if he was just gonna continue being an outlaw
It was Edgar's job to be a dickhead. Micah had a choice.
>>719562746>why did the sociopath bet that he'd survive this minute by betting that it didn't matter that he'd be dead in an hour?there's a reason we historically executed and imprisoned these degenerates
>>719548403i hate dutch, he's mentally retarded
>>719548403Micah was just an outlaw doing whatever an outlaw does. I thought he was even bordering on being the only other competent member of the gang who could hold his own in a fight. Hell, the sidekicks he recruited in the end had more character than most of the original crew. Ross was just doing his job.
>>719553869Ross simply took out the trash. The gang were not the good guys.
>>719554262Ross isn't a federal agent in RDR2, because the FBI didn't exist back then in 1899-1907. He was just a Pinkerton, which is a private company. RDR1, in 1911, it did, and he's a member of it. Meaning he was one of the first members of the FBI
>>719548403make RDR3play as Dutch, early west, forming the gangless story shit, more gamecancel GTA
>>719562843>It was Edgar's job to be a dickheadI don't think so, Archer Fordham and Agent Milton were pretty nice
>>719548403why did they have micah look and sound exactly like john malkovich?
>>719552127degeneracy as in gay sex, he's gay
>>719563194No he's just evil and has a massive ego
>>719564364He worked for the BOI, not FBI. Also he was not just another member, he was literally the director of the BOI.
Micah is a literal joke, you should've just put a glowing bit of text that said "TRAITOR" over his head from square one.
>>719566372Micah is obviously a villain, whilst everyone else is conflicted. They story shows how everyone else's conflicts play out.
Went back to the prior game. Can't help but feel these characters are generally more fun. They have some bite to them and step into just the right amount camp. Rockstar lost their bite.
>>719566372I thought it was gonna be bill because of how everyone just shit on him relentlessly
>>719548403Why would i hate Micah? He's the only character in Dutch's gang who still remembers that they are supposed to be FUCKING BANDITS.
>>719566885By the sounds of it he's emulating his Father, but the gloss over that
>>719548403Rodd did nothing wrong. The gang of killers and thieves are the bad guys.
>>719567143THIS. MICAH WAS FUCKING BASED.
>>719567982>MICAH WAS FUCKING BASED.You're dumber than dogshit. I wasn't making value judgment, i was pointing out that Micah is the only character that is who he is supposed to be.
>>719567426>but the gloss over thatThere's nothing to gloss over. People like Micah are so shallow because they're damaged from such a young age that they can't even be tragic. It's why he works as a foil for Arthur who despite his evil deeds can actually reach for redemption.
>>719566372I thought he was a red herring and I was thoroughly disappointed when it turned out he wasn't
>>719548403Micah is a more reprehensible guy. Ross is a piece of shit but at least he was cleaning up society.
>>719548512Same lol. He was probably the most fun character and I was kinda hoping we would get along by the end. I mean it's Rockstar they wouldn't make such a one-dimensional obvious bad guy and never develop him throughout the game right?
what the fuck was this about. I cant help but feel like they had to cut out large parts of the story due to time. Not just guarma stuff.
>>719564626That would actually be cool as shit with Hosea.
>>719548403Micah, shit character, no nuance or anything remotely interesting.
>>719548780is this missing the fact this is all being done to a murdering stealing gang member who before all that was never held accountable for his actions, is was all that ok because he's "changed now"?i really doubt you'd be so kind either to former cartel or ms13 members today
>>719548780>>719570680>YEAH, BUT HE GOT RETCONNED IN 2 TO BE AN INNOCENT ROBIN HOOD WITH A HEART OF GOLD
>>719548659I don't think I will. Both are scum bags
>>719548482why do they have to be equal, can't they be pieces shit in their own unique ways?
